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HEP-isode 37 | Season 4, AI troubles, and Paul Hogan Lives!
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On the first, life-altering HEP-isode of season 4, we try to figure out why so many young people are trying to use ChatGPT to get jobs, why autonomous trucks need to take baby steps, and what Andy Rooney would have had to say about all this. All this PLUS our new sound guy, Tim, and an update on the Heavy Equipment Podcast race car – welcome to season 4!
Season Four Kickoff & Industry Heat
SPEAKER_02I should probably record the now. We're recording. It's uh, you know, we're out of practice. We're starting a new season. It's been a while.
SPEAKER_03We've been on the road. We've been on the road. We're doing all these promotional and motivational tours for drivers across the country.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but not across this country. We've been in Australia, baby. That is a season three Spotify.au exclusive. But uh season four, we're back and uh back in America.
SPEAKER_03I can't believe that we were doing so much traveling down through there, and then I was working up here in the States. It was insane. We did it's like on a little bit of a hiatus, but we're back, and this is gonna be great.
SPEAKER_02It has been so long since we've done one of these shows. I feel like the world has changed. I feel like, you know, in one of the last episodes that we did, we were talking about the housing crisis, we need to do construction. There is still a construction boom, there is still an energy boom. If you're trying to build out the grid, if you're trying to build out utilities and load growth, your economy's through the roof. If you're building RAM and computers and you're doing like data center stuff, your economy's through the roof. And then shipping and transport, you can't find enough guys to do that on a good season. And now we're getting rid of like everybody. We're shutting down the CDL mills, we're doing the English language requirements. How are these companies finding people to deliver their products?
Labor Shortages And Skill Inflation
SPEAKER_03I have no idea. I don't know how people are getting obtaining other people. It's a struggle. I talk to a ton of people in the industry. We always talk about this. This is always a struggle to get people. And the biggest issue that we're having right now, and this is just going to be blunt, has people bold face lying on their abilities.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03They may or may not have held the title or the position in the place that they were before, but can you do it? And then can you adapt to a ever-changing whatever it is that you're moving yourself into? And I I find it hard to believe this because the problem with this is you're setting yourself up for failure. So you go through all the trouble to get a good interview, you get a good LinkedIn profile, you know, you're on Instagram, you're shopping yourself to everybody, and you finally get a recruiter or some HR director to go, please let's talk. And then you sell yourself like you're selling yourself to the devil, and then they hire you. You gotta that has to create amount of a stress that you just cannot bypass. And then you get thrown into a situation that you know willingly you can't adapt to. Why do you do it?
SPEAKER_02You think it's that far, though? I'll give you an example. You know, like my my oldest son, you know him well. He is graduating from college, he is going into this workforce, he's putting in applications, everything else, but like kind of graduated with Chat GPT and all these other AIs doing a lot of the question answering for him. So the big that right there is a problem.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that is a problem because we have actually had to get trained on how to grill people and how to talk to them, knowing that they're using Chat GPT to construct formal sentences that they are not prepared to do on their own.
SPEAKER_02And it's worse than that because the new AIs, like you and I are looking at each other right now through a Zoom screen. The new AIs, you can have it on Zoom so that you're reading it, like you're reading the answer to the question that people ask. So you ask them, how would you deal with this scenario? GPT is giving them the answer and they're just reading it back to you. So you don't have any idea, and they think that's learning. That's the problem because they'll read the answer from Chat GPT or they'll see a 30-second video.
SPEAKER_03They don't know what construct created the data behind the answer chat GPT gave them. That's the problem. And you have the same problem with drivers, construction operators, laborers, document personnel that are doing any kind of document creation or handling in any kind of an office scenario, admin people, accounting people are falling into this trap. They don't understand why they're getting the answer, and that's dangerous.
AI-Crafted Answers And Interview Integrity
SPEAKER_02I remember you might remember this. The early 90s, there was like a FedEx commercial where the guy would get hired in. You know, he's like, Okay, your first day, you're gonna run this cop, make copies of this, take this to the fourth floor. And he says, No, no, no, you don't understand. I have an MBA. And the woman goes, Oh, you have an MBA. Let me show you how to use the copier. And I just think like we're doing that, but like as a whole society now where nobody has any idea what they're doing, but they saw it on TikTok, so they think they know how to do it. And if that doesn't make me sound like I'm a thousand years old, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03Here's what it makes you sound like somebody that actually has common sense and can read through bullshit because that's what a lot of these younger kids are spouting. And when you press them in an interview or you get them in a situation where face to face you push them, they stammer and fail. Now it'd be much more respectful to them and to the party that's working with them to just say, I don't know, and I need to understand how that works. So give me a little bit and research it. That is more respectful than while they're sitting there sneaking their phone and looking at it, going, Well, I really believe that if we work on this in such a manner or blah, blah, blah, blah, you look at and you're like, Where did you just read that from? Let me see your phone.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you almost have to have like clean room interviews that have like a Faraday cage.
SPEAKER_03You're you remember is an amazing idea.
SPEAKER_02Well, see, because I think we could build a Faraday cage.
SPEAKER_03Well, this is just like the Indian brothers that park up the street from here that have one built into their new Volvo.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's all it's foil lined because of some government shit that they're trying to avoid or aliens, or I don't know, whatever. I I don't know. You go buy it, it's all silver and gold inside of there.
SPEAKER_02Stop it.
SPEAKER_03I'm serious.
SPEAKER_02I gotta tell you, the idea that I could have a gold foil-lined interior in the 102-inch Volvo VR sleeper has me excited in ways that it would be inappropriate to mention.
SPEAKER_03Let's talk about that because absolutely gold foil, silver foil, and red, blue, and green is absolutely the color pattern that you need in there. And then we'll get that all shiny in there. And when your brand new striker CB lights up and blasts a light bulb through there, you think that you just hit plaid.
SPEAKER_02That would be amazing.
SPEAKER_03Get the uh meanwhile, you're passing some poor guy on the shoulder.
SPEAKER_02Well, he shouldn't be there. Oh man, I saw recently I was coming back.
SPEAKER_03Don't you miss this? This is this is why we did this.
SPEAKER_02This is why we do this. Oh, I was riding back from uh Rosemont and it was like two in the afternoon, and I thought, man, I was gonna have a nice, easy exchange through that 290-294 interchange, which by the way, here's a news item for you. That 290-294 exchange right there at Mannheim outside of Chicago has now officially been designated as the worst bottleneck in the country.
SPEAKER_03Well, I believe it. It's like sorcery over there. You got everybody swirling together, and then all of a sudden they don't know which lane to be in because the other one drops off, and some guys have to go left, and one guy's trying to get to the train to pick somebody up. It's crazy over there.
SPEAKER_02I was stuck in that one time, and I'm talking 2012. I was stuck in that, and it was so bad that I called your brother and begged him for my old job back so that I could leave Chicago because that's how bad the traffic was.
SPEAKER_03When it gets that bad, you just get outside, kneel down, and pray to Michelin.
SPEAKER_02That's it. How's he doing, by the way? I haven't heard from him in a while.
Road Stories And America’s Worst Bottleneck
SPEAKER_03God knows he's well, he was down at uh a couple secret spots uh doing his thing. He was in installing facial recognition security software.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's to help you find your puppy.
SPEAKER_03Problem is it doesn't work on him because you know he's everyone knows what his face looks like.
SPEAKER_02We're like, oh, that's that guy. Yeah, he's fine. He'll be fine. He doesn't listen to these anyway.
SPEAKER_03No, no, not at all. So this is what I was saying, though, about the photo line interior. We're gonna get back to this. Volvo has this great cab and they've done this great work and everything, blah blah blah. But they've integrated Mac into this madness of theirs, yeah, and they have now verged all these things together to create one cab, one truck for Vomac, and they put an anthem label on it, which is fine. The anthem is meant to be in a an efficient freight vehicle with a sloped hood, that's great. We need a classic Mac truck, we need something with a square hood. They gotta be able to compete in that market. The classic R model, you know, you have all the Mac heritage there, and you need a square hooded, nicely done, classic style truck for for guys that want to buy that. And they'll buy them. I mean, look at Peter. They just released out the the new ones, got the new cab, the last 379. We did we did an episode on this. The the last 379 sold there for like a million and a half dollars for the last build slot. A new one comes out, everybody's like, wow, the cab's wider. Wow, it's got a one-piece windshield. Actually, it isn't that bad. And the giant ass square hood they put on the front of it, which they could have sloped and done all kinds of weird stuff with it, but they built a giant pillbox out front that people are buying, and we're gonna buy one because we want to try it out. And I think that is missing in the Mac lineup.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think that's right. I have you seen there's a shop out of Canada, they are doing some real low volume, ultra custom stuff. They've got an electric axle, but it's a diesel truck. It's exactly what you and I always talk about. It runs that diesel engine, no battery. It's a locomotive, it's a locomotive, exactly right. It's hundred-year-old technology, but like man, you got a hand throttle?
SPEAKER_03Uh, no. Well, that's a shame. You got literally want to sit on the right side of that thing, put my arm out the window and grab with my left and just slide the lever forward and just motor on.
SPEAKER_02That sounds right. Look at this. Look at this. This is a modern classic truck, exactly like we're describing, but with well, it's a it's a Kenworth with a diesel electric drive.
SPEAKER_03That series giant Kenworth ceased to exist. So those guys are building them. That's that's an it's incredible. You can get the cab after. You're gonna get them on the show.
SPEAKER_02I'll just call them again on the show. We we should actually talk about that because season four is gonna be unlike any other season in the history of the heavy equipment podcast, primarily because the audience of the show has grown to the point that now people are reaching out to us to be on the show.
SPEAKER_03It's insane. We're gonna be for those that are that are listening to this or downloading it or doing whatever you do to it.
SPEAKER_02I assume they take it as an enema.
Classic Vs Modern Trucks And Diesel-Electric Ideas
SPEAKER_03It could be. It's a surprise. For those of you that are doing this and watching what's going on here or listening to it, or whatever you want to do on Spotify and Apple, wherever you get podcasts, we are going to Con Expo next week.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_03NTEA Work Truck Week the week after. We're hitting the road this year, and we are gonna be all over this continent, going anywhere, anyhow, in any way.
SPEAKER_02Uh well, you're gonna be at Con Expo. We're both gonna be at Work Truck Week. I will also be at ACT Expo, which is the uh American Clean Trucking Exposition. And while I am there, we're gonna be talking to some guys from Cummins uh about that X15, that natural gas diesel motor.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna be talking about finding that piece, and that piece is gonna be a force to reckon with on the road.
SPEAKER_02It's so simple.
SPEAKER_03We talked about this uh on on season two, and what I'm gonna tell you right now that in season four, we've got a whole series about this that's gonna be coming up. That motor, as they evolve that, is incredible.
SPEAKER_02They have done something really clever with that piece, and they have, I think, read the tea leaves better than anybody else. They understood that the incoming administration was gonna take an all of the above approach when it came to fuels, and they've got a motor that can do ethanol, biodiesel, they've got a motor that can run on methane. So if you have a farm and you're doing methane capture or you've got a landfill, you're doing methane capture, you can power your own trucks off of that. Really, really smart.
SPEAKER_03Vehicle is direct out of Thunderdome, and the little man has designed it.
SPEAKER_02Well, I he's not that little, he's just Asian.
SPEAKER_03But that's true, that's true.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was the lady. I don't know. We're gonna have to find out.
SPEAKER_03Well, that was Whitney Houston, and she ran and she ran the town. We're not gonna get in the whole thing, but the guy would create an embargo by having the giant one close the valve. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it then we're back to those basics of primitive exchange. And uh we we have a similar situation in the uh heavy equipment yard, which I reside in, where the one in the back calls up and asks me who runs equipment yard, and then I have to say it while he flips on the mic, but it is what it is. We're okay with it.
SPEAKER_02You're doing fine. All right. So while we're on the topic of all this, you know, we've we've hit everything. You know, I really want to go into this question that I thought was a clever question. I'm like really proud of myself for this. They're talking about last night, you know, our our glorious leader, our fearless president, got on TV and talked about Delilah's law, which I think is really important because you can't have people operating 80,000 pounds of rolling steel and not be able to read the signs. I agree with that. However, at the same time that you're chasing out all these drivers and operators, you're trying to accelerate this AI adoption, this self-driving truck trains and convoys and all other autonomous that we always talk about. What language do those things speak? How are we making sure that those things have CDLs and know how to read the signs?
SPEAKER_03Well, here's here's my take on this. And this is just coming from you know, somebody who runs the road and and has people that do so.
SPEAKER_02This is coming from somebody who knows this business. That's the purpose of the show. Thanks for keeping up.
Language Rules, Autonomy Hype, And Reality
SPEAKER_03Thank you. So here's my take on this. While the orange man is correct, we believe that yes, we have to have people that when they drive down the road, they read a sign comprehensively. When they get pulled over or they're dealing with someone on their travel from A to B, they can do so comprehensively. No one is arguing that. I believe this. Before the autonomy hits the highway, which they somehow believe is so easy to do, let's get it to work in a vehicle that transports trailers between dock to dock and stages them. Let's be able to make sure that the vehicle can back into a dock and pull the trailer over to an area that is staging for an actual driver to take it and leave. If we could get that down, you would eliminate dock time, driver time, labor time in all of these scenarios by a factor of 10%. And we've talked, I I have talked to dispatchers and I have talked to people, they're like, that's the problem. We get a driver in here, he disappears into the back, the trailer's not ready, we don't know what's going on with it. Here's what we need we need a self-driving, a fully autonomous yard switcher that when it plugs into the tractor and the tractor goes in and it hooks onto the trailer, and the trailer is somehow connected to that, whichever way we want to do this. We need to have it go through an area where either a human or a non-human self-checks the trailer and makes sure that all the stuff works on it. And then it gets pulled into a staging area that it transports that trailer into and it transmits back to the office space 121 is ready, and this is the trailer number I've pulled into it. Imagine if we could get that right. So let's talk about literally taking baby steps before we get out on the open road and run. That alone would help. The closest we've ever come to this in this country is UPS, FedEx, DHL, and some of the other guys that have built staging areas along the turnpikes where they bring the trailers in and stage them, and then the guy driver pulls in and goes, Yep, that's the set I'm grabbing. They grab it and they run. That would be, in my eyes, if I was running a freight company, phase two. Let's get it from the terminal and let's run it to that staging area on the turnpike and get the truck to come back to us with a set of empties comprehensively and do it completely. Then we'll worry about the open road. The open road is scary. I'll tell you why. I was driving today, I was going from uh a fabrication shop that we have about 40 minutes from here. I was coming back to my office and I'm following this semi-truck and it's in front of me. I'm driving a truck that we swapped, guy driving next to me or riding next to me because he drove another vehicle into picking it up, all this stuff. So there's two of us in the car, and he yells tire. And I look up and there's a tire in a rim laying in the middle of the road. We braced like we were about to get catapulted across the highway. We drove right over top of it, and luckily we did not have a problem, but the guy behind us did. Now imagine an autonomous vehicle striking that, going down the road and going, I don't know, and just stopping because it doesn't know what to do. That kind of crap happens, and I don't care who you are. If I threw that scenario at you and you're I'm over at Carnegie Mellon and they're working on all that stuff, been working on it, and I give them that as scenario, they're gonna go, we gotta work on that. I can tell you right now that's what's gonna happen. Or their default's gonna be it stops in the road, which is even worse. So let's stage this and do it in layers, is what I'm getting at.
SPEAKER_02I think that's a really smart approach, and I think just because it's so smart, it'll never get picked up. But I think the reality is right. Oh, let's talk about this.
SPEAKER_03UPS and FedEx, if you're listening to this, I will gladly work on this on the side for you, and my rates are negotiable.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. I'll negotiate the rates. Don't you worry, big boy.
SPEAKER_03Don't listen to him, he's stupid unless he's in direct contact with the context in which he's been provided.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. He can't he doesn't understand multipliers of that nature. I've got this. We got fees, we got margins, I got a whole scenario run out. I got you. What we are really negotiating here is all the hours and all the logbook hours that are burned up by operators and drivers waiting in long lines at crunch time at these terminals and these ports that is eating up the efficiency of their ability to get goods and services from the port to the warehouse to the stores. We don't have stores anymore, though. It's 2026, everybody orders from Amazon. You know it, I know it. Well, we we can stop saying fairly.
SPEAKER_03We do our shopping online, we do our banking online, the only thing that we buy in person is perishable items that we're afraid to have shipped to us. That's the reality in which we live it. I want to know this. I I have this book and I refer to it constantly. And Joe's face of horror is just impeccable right now because he knows I can't.
SPEAKER_02I thought that was a coaster. I've never seen you crack open a book that wasn't a chilt manual in 20 years.
Yard Autonomy First: A Practical Roadmap
SPEAKER_03Let me tell you, I do read from time to time, usually while I'm driving. I want to know what Andy Rooney would say. This is the guy that I look to constantly and go, what would he do? And what would he think in this scenario? And I have a book, it's called A Few Minutes with Andy Rooney, and he goes through these things. And I'm gonna tell you, there's classic topics in here, but the basis of this is what? It's all common sense, and that's what we struggle to strive for anymore. I think you didn't even see that coming. I had this ready this whole day and you didn't even know it.
SPEAKER_02I had no idea that was coming, but I think it's a good point, right? Because common sense does not build hype, common sense cannot generate investment, common sense does not goose the stock. If you were if you were a common sense type of person and you were in Elon's shoes, you would get up there and say, right now we are testing some self-driving stuff with a safety operator in a fair weather city that has never dealt with black ice, sleet, rain, snow, fog, mist. And once we get that working sort of halfway okay, we'll start to try it in a place where it rains. But what he's actually saying, because he can't come online and say that, if he does, his stock price will plummet. So what he says is nonsense about Mars, talking about we're gonna never drive a car again within the next two years. And meanwhile, everyone's going, Who's this guy in the furry suit? Why is he on my secret island?
SPEAKER_03No, that's that's I mean, 100% truth. I mean, and I'm I'm laughing right now because you know. Well, so we don't have Biff anymore, okay? This is this is the other issue we got. Biff basically said, I ain't doing this no more. I ain't going on the road with you guys and I ain't staging all this crap across whatever Americas you decide to traverse in between working normally and have your parade of all these things that you want to talk to drivers about.
SPEAKER_02All the shrimps on the Barbies he missed out on.
SPEAKER_03He did, you know, and if Paul Hogan was still alive, he'd have got him back.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna tell you, Paul Hogan and Tupac are still alive, but that's a different conversation.
SPEAKER_03That's a different conversation. So, anyhow, the control room now is is handled by Is Paul Hogan dead? I don't know, is he? I think he is.
SPEAKER_02I don't think so. No, I think we lost him. His brother Hulk passed last year. That's that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03Is he?
SPEAKER_02Holy shit, he's 86 years old. Yeah, it looks good for age call that gator meat.
SPEAKER_03So let me tell you. Let me tell you, I'm sorry to Paul Hogan's family and of all those that looked at this or read it and read some kind of transcript and said, Oh my god, he's dead. He is not dead, he's still alive. Listen to me carefully. Paul, if you were with us, we'll have you call in tomorrow. Our lines are open. Now, if Paul Hogan was present, we'd have gotten Biff back.
SPEAKER_00That's good to die.
SPEAKER_03We didn't get this back. Our control room operator, Tim.
SPEAKER_00What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or tinder? I'm an enchantor. By what name are you known? There are some who call me Tim?
Edge Cases, Safety, And Staged Rollouts
SPEAKER_03Tim. Tim the Enchanter. He is back there and he's freaking out, and he's trying to figure out how the hell I got a book into the recording studio, and he wants to know who the hell Andy Rooney is, because he's 21 years old. So this is my problem. This is who we got. And anybody that thinks it's edited weird, send us in your information. Tell us what you think we're lacking, and we'll go from there. Alright, let's move on.
SPEAKER_02Wait, what was Andy Rooney gonna say about the autonomous truck?
SPEAKER_03He was gonna tell us here's what Andy Rooney was gonna say. You can't put the cart before the horse or the mule. Neither can you worry about the cart or worry about the mule, but you load the cart because that's where it goes. You tell the mule to move it. Now let me tell you, Andy Rooney would do that in a heartbeat. If he was working a wagon train or working for Western Union or or um Union Pacific is the train. Not Union Pacific, who's the stagecoach? Wells Fargo. Well, Union was working for Wells Fargo as a coach driver. Let me tell you something right now. I would ride shotgun for that man any day of the week because he would see a rattlesnake and tell you to move away from it. And he would know a rustler when he saw one. He'd be like, Boy, shoot that one now because we know we got problems coming. We wouldn't even ask. And Andy Rooney would look at us while we're alongside the campfire and go, let me talk to you about today. And today we shot a rustler. And how did we know we shot a rustler? Because I looked at him. That's how he viewed the life. He just knew. I don't know where he came from. He's a vine or some shit. I don't know what's going on with that.
SPEAKER_02He's one of those guys that grew up speaking French. Who knows? This would be a really good time. No, Chuck Wagon. What's the dog food?
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SPEAKER_03Yeah, so it's before the Ponderosas because it's a good one.
SPEAKER_02Before the Ponderossas, Bonanza Steakhouse. Wow. There's one left in Lebanon, Virginia, and Chambersburg, Pennsylvania.
SPEAKER_03There's what?
SPEAKER_02There's one in Virginia and one in Pennsylvania. That's it.
SPEAKER_03Where in uh Pennsylvania?
SPEAKER_02Chambersburg.
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SPEAKER_02We're gonna have to get out there.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna have to record from the Bonanza out in Chambersburg.
SPEAKER_02Could you imagine? There is not another high-quality, well-produced podcast filming from the Ponderosa Steakhouse.
Community Growth And Listener Momentum
SPEAKER_03No, and I'm gonna tell you, you know, the our here's what makes our podcast different. Our podcast is different because we speak a weird language only known a certain subset called the workman.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's true. But I will tell you this the weirdness and the strangeness seems to have found something because the fact that I will meet people that should know me. So, like I don't want to get too far into like our real lives because I don't want to dispel the illusion, but a lot of people in the utility space, in the interstate highway type of contracting space know who I am. A lot of people in the road construction and energy space and building construction trades know who you are. And of all the people that I meet who I would say should know me as this guy or should know me as that guy, the number of them that say, Oh, from Heavy Equipment Podcast, I love that show. When are you gonna do another episode? Is always shocking to me.
SPEAKER_03Well, let's talk the truth here. That's that's why we're back because we we we shied away from it and we were like, no one's listening to this shit. And then we turned around and we were like, we got we got off into doing our regular lives and getting off into this other stuff we could were calling season three because next thing you know, we're like balled up in other things related to the industry that we talk about.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're management now, you filthy casual.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, and so here's the thing, and and it was hard to balance everything. So we were like, you know what, we'll take a break, we'll get this stuff going. We fall into all this other stuff, but we kept running into people that were like, holy shit, when are you guys gonna record again? Yeah. Well, I'm I've been listening to you while I mow my yard. And I'm like, what? And they go, Well, here's why, because you you touch on all these topics that we all talk about when we're all sitting around our garages drinking beer and trying to figure out how to hide from our wives. And next thing you know, we turn around, we're like, Oh, wait, they haven't recorded again. It actually took people a little while to realize we hadn't, which I find hysterical because people find us in you know season twos, the end of season one, whatever. They start listening, they go back and they listen up, and then they're like, Wait, where's the next one? Yeah, it's like when you're watching Landman, you get to the end of you know the season and you're like, wait a minute, I thought there were more.
SPEAKER_02I love Landman.
Racing Projects And Mopar Dreams
SPEAKER_03Landman's a good show. We should we need him on here. I think you could reach out to his people and he'd jump on here and be like, What the hell are you guys talking about? Like, well, you guys run a heavy equipment company. He's like, Yeah, on TV.
SPEAKER_02See, that's close enough.
SPEAKER_03I think that's the thing because that's just as real as any of the other ones. Oh man, they get into it with let's go down that rabbit hole of tax evasion. Now it's in tax season time. Let's talk about that. No, seriously.
SPEAKER_02It's just uh interpretation.
SPEAKER_03It is interpretation. Mm-thak oil lost a good man when they fired him. And I'm gonna tell you right now, you're gonna ruin the day when he created his own company and something and something in cattle. Oh my god, dude. I miss these. Let's look at episode two. What do we got going on? Let's just skip to it.
SPEAKER_02Well, we're still in it. We still got a whole segment on the race car to do.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the race car. Heavy equipment podcast dodge dart is nearing completion, and we've got a naturally aspirated gas-breathing fire locomotive engine inside this thing. Wow, transferred the power by Liberty Gears all the way back to Strange Engineering, who's putting it down to the slicks, and Goodyear's putting it right to the asphalt. And that baby right there is how you propel a normal 68 dodge dart down the track in 8.2 seconds. That's gonna move, man.
SPEAKER_02You got the glass in there already, right?
SPEAKER_03Got every shit. I'm working on wiring and fuel right now. So we're coming to the end, and then uh I want to build a drag truck. That's gonna be my next my next project.
SPEAKER_02That's gonna be next is the truck.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02All Mopar, obviously.
SPEAKER_03I think so because when they when they had the Pro Stock truck circuit, they rude it and they they made sure that they, you know, were developing that at the time. And at the heyday of Pro Stock with carburetors, they won the championships multiple times with that. So you know, it wasn't until fuel injections leveled them out of the playing field.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, now we don't really get into automotive stuff and tuner drag racing stuff, but that is how we met and how we grew our bond and friendship that became what it is today.
SPEAKER_03That's right. You came over from uh that Floridian company and we weren't sure who you were.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_03You showed up with that tall Peruvian woman, but yet you got out of the car. We went, is that her driver?
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SPEAKER_02Is that her driver? No, I had uh I had trafficked her. I got her from uh little Jewish guy who's uh he's doing my taxes there in uh Palm Beach, Florida. It was nice. Um, so you're gonna put Jason Sandboard decals on that, or are you gonna do the Monacos?
SPEAKER_03Tim is literally beating on the glass, going, What the hell are you guys talking about? Chat GBT does not know of this. Put your phone down, Tim, and listen.
SPEAKER_02Man, I cannot wait to see the transcript of this one. It's gonna be like, Why are you doing this?
SPEAKER_03Anyways, to those of you mowing your yard and listening to this, we apologize, we're out of practice. Back up 30 seconds, listen to it again, and that is what we said.
SPEAKER_02All right, we'll wrap this one up this time. Welcome back, season four. We will be back next week with a proper script that we will promptly begin to ignore. And uh did I record any of this?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was on the whole time.
SPEAKER_02Oh, good.
