HEP-isode 38 | Smart Cats, Paint Chemistry, and a word from ITT

In this thrilling HEP-isode, we discuss the old $5 DVD bins, talk about the lessons some of the old guys on the job can teach, and why Caterpillar's new, AI-powered construction equipment is something you'd better learn to love sooner than later.

Transcript

Back And Hunting Truck Stop Media

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The first half of this program is sponsored by ITT in telecommunications and electronics, engineered products, insurance and finance, consumer products and services, and natural resources. At ITT, we think the best ideas are the ideas that help people. Welcome back.

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We are back.

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I'm so excited.

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I am back. Are you back, my friend?

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I am. I am so excited to talk about our topics today because it has been so long since I have delved into the old VHS and DVD bin at the Flying J that I actually got the chance to do it at a Loves Travel Center about a week, like not even a week ago, like two days ago. I was driving by a loves, like pilot travel center, and I was like, I gotta go check this out. And I came home with um, oh, what was it? Was it a four? It was a sci-fi classic four-pack that had Soylent Green, the original Time Machine, and two other movies I never heard of, like Return from Planet Defensor or something. Oh my god.

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There's a reason why that bin is strategically positioned between the showers and the cooler entry.

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Five dollars for that.

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There you go.

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Four movies, five dollars, and they say America's not great again. I don't know what to tell you.

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Let me tell you, Soil and Green for people that haven't seen that. That when you first realize what's going on in that movie, it's enlightening.

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Definitely makes you look at your neighbors in a whole new light.

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Oh, yes, it does. Those bastards are gonna eat you when it comes down to comes down to chaos.

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Oh, chaos.

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That takes me back to the days when we were running short on deaf and the guys would be out the few while and there's no more death to be had today, and people are freaking out.

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That was bad. I remember like especially like 2010, 2011, they had the the deaf shortages, and like you know, the number one question that I got every especially with these Mercedes sprinters that guys were doing regional. Yeah, there was a uh there's a group out here in Chicago that does, I don't know why they just do a ton of deliveries of like washer dryers and appliances for Lowe's. It's a it's a separate company, but they do the the contract work.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

And the number one didn't didn't Dyer Straits do uh do a song about these guys.

SPEAKER_03 3:02

They did. It was called uh Money for Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Well, no, that the Money for Nothing was about the Home Depot guys, yes, but they're they weren't installing uh you know custom kitsches, microwave oven.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

Yeah, so those guys, those are the guys they wanted me to defeat the like put in a diesel tune, like the overseas European diesel tune that would uh let them drive without the deaf. And that was like the number one thing that they were asking for is how do we do this defeat? And it's like, buddy, we're not even gonna touch that. I mean, that became like a ten thousand dollar per offense fine. It was some of those.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

No, it was a big deal. I mean, the bull haulers were out there with cups and bottles trying to drain the livestock, keep the shit on the road.

Nostalgia And The NYU Question

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No, we had a guy that bought a whole bunch of it in Australia and brought it in. We keep coming back to Australia. We gotta like get some of those dudes on the phone here one day. But as we discuss the VHS bin at the truck stop, it is not really about the VHS bin. It is not a real conversation about old movies, classics, though they be, it is a conversation about a simpler time when we could go and enjoy art for art's sake, which begs the question, and you're gonna have to provide some background here, whatever happened to NYU.

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Oh, oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

So, for a little bit of context on this, my daughter, who's in middle school, getting ready to go to high school, is really big and excited about theater and working in theater and set design and construction, and she's getting her hands dirty and drilling on stuff and cutting things with a miter saw and building set pieces and getting them painted up and everything. And, you know, there's a real narrow window in life. It's you know, if you're that age, it seems like a big window, but there's a real narrow window in life where all the options are available to you, and you can say things like, I want to be a set designer, I want to be a costume designer, and say those things sincerely without worrying about consequences and how you're gonna pay rent and how you're gonna pay everything off. And I think that's a real magical time.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Well, yeah, because I mean you gotta, you know, like what we're talking about here is that you have two different backgrounds, okay? And then you have the people that go through films, film school, and they do all the documentaries, and we talk about this, and they do they do these things and they talk about how you know they slept on someone's couch and they, you know, they they ate ramen for six years straight, fought scurvy and the whole bit. And the problem that they have is is that they're very much different from those that were like their father's own part of Xerox back in the 80s, and they went to film school and NYU and didn't give a f about anything. And then when they turned around, they did okay. They did okay because they didn't have the stress, you know, they were allowed that luxury. So I one, while I enjoy that is great, but two, it makes you strive for those that come from a normal background and makes you proud of them even more because they're like, What I didn't have anything, I didn't have anything to look forward to, and I figured it out. Yeah, and they told me I needed to do this, I needed to buy these books, and I needed to handle this stuff, and I made my way through school, made my way through NYU film and all those things, but it is a simpler time when it comes to that. I mean, look at the ambitions of a uh of your daughter and her age, you know, she's wanting to do this, and she's I can't imagine going back 50 years and being 25 and working and being like, I'm gonna do this. And you have the the the freedom to do so, yeah.

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And just to not even worry about it and to figure, hey, we're gonna get there. And you know, uh very similarly, there was a young man that you knew once upon a time who said, you know what, this thing in Ohio looks pretty cool. I'm gonna throw my stuff in this Volkswagen van and I'm gonna move on up there and I'm gonna see what happens. And I look at that 20 years ago to where I am now with a mortgage with three kids, you know, various ages starting their life and and going through that, trying to put away money for the 401k, worrying about my uh health insurance deductible. And if someone called me and said, Hey, we're doing this cool thing out in Arizona, and it sounds really awesome, you want to be a part of it, even if I wanted to do it. I I don't know if I could.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

You can't. Okay, so the essence of what you just described is trucking all the way up until the mid-80s. Yeah, and you got these cowboys of the road that are running around and they're they're doing all this stuff. Construction up into the 90s was wild west shit. You had guys putting up buildings with little to no safety oversight. You had guys, you know, 300 feet off the ground, you had all these things going on, people down below. Yes, it was dangerous, and yes, people there's reasons why we have all the regulations we have today, but all of that stuff back then was a simpler, nonsensical time where you respected your work, the work respected you, and you didn't die. Yeah, unless you did, in which case Well, you know, if you were shallow on brains, then uh, you know, God took you away sooner.

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The little little extra chlorine in the gene pool never hurt nobody.

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Hey, they drink the pool water, ain't gonna kill you.

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It's funny though, because we all got here, didn't we? Like if you go onto a construction site today and you find the dudes with a little bit of gray in their beards, a little bit of hair in their ears, and you go ask them, How did you get into this business? You will find guys that were guitar players that had a band that went on like regional tours, you will find dudes that to your point tried to do it.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Dudes that went to roadies, and then they turned around and then it somehow got to be part of the setup crew after they trailed the band for like four tour dates, and then they're like, Hey, do you guys need a hand? And then somehow they end up on the crew. I mean, think about how wild that is.

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That's crazy, but that's real.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Look at Johnny Paycheck, guitar guitar man for George Jones, the greatest voice in country history, ends up carefree, working his way through band to band, ends up in George Jones's band. He ends up with a recording contract from that because he was the backup singer for George. When George was so fucked up he couldn't speak, he would come chiming in, and they'd, you know, there's some guy in the back sliding things so that they can blend their voices together and look at what happened, you know. It would be look actually, and to tell you this, and you go back to what you're talking about, the guys with the gray haired and the wrinkled brow and some scars and walk a little funny, those are the ones you gotta watch out for. He shot a man in Ohio at a bar for mouthing off to him, okay? There's a lot of old laborers out there just to soon pick up a shovel and beat you to death and then bury you in your own hole. Oh, yeah. You know, the young guys gotta pay homage to those guys and sometimes just go over and be like, hey, am I doing this wrong? And listen to the lessons they're gonna tell you because a lot of it's ramblings, and people get confused about this because I I I laugh all the time about this. People tell you these stories, you know, and you're like, Oh man, I already knew all most of that. I don't know why that guy, you know, goes. He's taking the time to tell you this because he had to learn it the hard way because no one knew it before he found out about it, and his middle finger's gone.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

And ain't that the truth?

SPEAKER_01 10:26

That is, I mean, there you know, we I'll I'll tell you a story. We you know, we're getting talking about stories of being on the road and construction stuff. There's two. One was my father who drove for a while on and off, and between jobs, decided he was gonna drive and make his fortune three times. He tried at trucking. But when he was a young pup and he didn't know have any money and he had a flap, he had to use the landing gear of the trailer to break the bead on the tire.

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Picked the tire and rolled the tire up the highway till he got to the next gas station to find out where the tire shop was, use their telephone. Old guy comes down in a pickup truck with two new tires, they hand mount them on the side of the road using that landing gear and two bars, air it up off the truck's air and put it back on the truck. This took all afternoon, and then be like, Well, I still have to get to where I'm supposed to be by morning, so I'm gonna drive all night to get there. That's why they tell these stories. Yeah. And the construction guys are just the same, it just comes in a different wrapper. And you got guys that are talking about how you know we had to turn around and we had to dig this ditch line by hand and we had to do this and pick and shovel, and 20 of us out there grunting and throwing dirt over our shoulders. Meanwhile, the day the kid comes by in a mini excavator and just digs it all out, and they're standing there going, man, that would have been nice.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Yeah, no, and the thing'll and it'll make sure that it's level too.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

The new AI stuff in the cats, Michael, is so cool. Where like you you barely know what you're doing, and you can put down absolute dead nut straight, damn near perfectly level digging. It's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

I mean, that's that's what these old guys stare at. They're standing there and they're like, Well, what what do we do? What? What is that thing doing? How does he even know where he's at? And the guy's like, Well, it tells me there is a lack of respect for some of that, but at the same time, I've I've you know, we've bought enough of this stuff now, and it's it just keeps getting more and more refined through Caterpillar. And now we're getting to a point where the machines are you're at a crossroads, and you have to decide if I run this, which way am I going to run it? Which was never a choice before. It was I'm gonna run this, and then I'm gonna add this thing on there, and then it's gonna help me dig degrade. Now you have all these options, and then you have to actually take a moment in the morning and set this thing up or decide what you're you're not gonna dig below or what you're not gonna raise your boom above, and all those things. And it does so much more. And I and we tell everybody, we tell all of our operators, and we tell all these people, and I tell anybody that talks to me about any of this. I say, call your cat dealer. They have people that are trained to teach you this stuff, they will come out and they will show you how to do it from a mini excavator to a you know 100,000-pound excavator, the stuff's built into it now. It's amazing, yeah.

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You know, it's wild because I I was looking into caterpillar stock prices doing amazing things, but it's not being driven by selling excavators or by wheel loaders, it's being driven by what they're calling that cat AI assistant. I mean, it's a real AI product, you know. There, there's a lot of people that talk about self-driving cars and that talk about autonomous taxis, and you know, this is way different than that. This is way different, and unlike a lot of that stuff, frankly, it works.

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Well, next week we're gonna actually be at the Caterpillar Unveiling for this.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Yeah, it's gonna be cool at the Caterpillar.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

It's gonna be great. And then so uh I talked to uh Gordon was down here from Ohio Cat, those are great people over there, and Gordon is uh heavily involved in um the caterpillar software for the end user, right? And so, you know, he's looking at Vision Link, he's looking at uh Cat Connect, he's looking at the Cat AI, and he didn't get into the Cat A AI too much because he said, Look, you're gonna see it next week, and it's gonna spawn a bunch of questions, and we're gonna let everybody kind of take that in and see how we're gonna make this and how we're gonna step into this. And a lot of these technologies, they have to be rolled out in a certain way, but at the same time, you have to be able to turn around and you're gonna have to dedicate staff to this stuff.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

The the days of the single fleet manager, you know, smoking cigarettes in his office, you know, he's got he's two pots of coffee deep by four in the afternoon, he's still got three hours to go, those days are over. You have to have people that understand it and work within it. And if there's anybody out there that's listening to any of this stuff that that is any kind of command over top of their construction fleet, and I don't care if it's one machine or it's 300, you need to have a staff or a single person that understands how this works. It will save you money, and it's not just because it's caterpillar. This technology that's coming down the pike from all the OEMs in time will save you money and make you more efficient if you use it. Yeah. The problem is gonna be, and this is something we just talked about in the meeting this week. If you choose not to use it in about a year, maybe two, it's gonna work against you. Because as all these platforms are circled around the usage of this stuff and the input of this data, it's actually gonna hinder you. Yeah. Because the dealership's gonna be standing there going, well, did you did you go into cat and then did you see what's in there? Oh no, I don't use that. Well, I'm gonna have to have a guy come and talk to you because you need to use that.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

And actually, this came a long time ago before this, when the very first on-road trucks came with onboard software, onboard screens that had mileage, gallons per mile, and all those things built into them. This has been around for a while. You know, you would call the dealership and go, I don't know what my truck's doing. And they would go go into the monitor and tell me what it says. Oh, I don't use that thing, I just drive it. Okay, well, I'll tell I'll walk you through on the phone how to use the monitor. Yeah. And it looked like a radio on the dash, and they would teach people how to go through there. I don't know, but you got to work within it or it's gonna take you out.

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Yeah, I'm gonna tell you another thing about this. Whether you like it or not, whether you use it or not, you are paying for it. Like if you go right now and buy a Tesla, even if you don't spend ten thousand dollars or five thousand dollars for the self-driving, all those sensors, all those motors, all that stuff to make it work is in your vehicle that you paid for. So either you're gonna pay for it and get no value out of it, or you're gonna pay for it and make it work for you.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

But why would you not? It's like, okay, this is the equivalent, and and to anybody that's listening to this, and we're gonna dumb it down to the basic fact of this it's like buying a brand new iPhone and only using it to make phone calls.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

It's like buying, yes, that's exactly what it is. It's buying a brand new iPhone and all you're doing is making phone calls. Or to my lovely wife Margaret, if you're listening, it's like buying a$2,200 Rose Gold MacBook Pro and using it for Facebook. You don't need to do that.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

You could have bought an iPad that will schedule your life. Go through Facebook, send you anything you need to send, be your personal assistant, and tell you that there's something on Facebook you should look at.

The New Art Of Making Paint Look New

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That's it. That's all you need. You don't even need that, honestly. That's right. That's right. You're all be better off without it. While we're on the topic of caterpillar tractors and cats in general, I have become absolutely glued to this Instagram channel. I'm not going to give his name because I don't do advertising for people for free. But I will tell you that what he's doing is he's taking these old-looking machines, whether they're caterpillar, John Deere, whatever it is, and he's basically hitting them with like a rattle can and some like, you know, uh what he calls like magic black or the treads. And within a couple of minutes, I mean minutes, he's like, now look at it. I'm gonna flip this machine for five grand more than I paid for. It looks like a million bucks. It is wild to me how good these products, not only the paint products, but the refinishing products have gotten to the point that like now I don't trust anything. I gotta go like lick the thing to make sure it's factory paint.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Well, you know, the Germans make really good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

And that guy's running for Congress.

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Let me tell me this. Is where I'm going with this.

SPEAKER_03 18:54

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

The Sham Wow stuff started with that. That was that was one of the beginnings of this thing. You're like, that thing can't work like that. And then you get one because you get gimmicked into it and you spend$29.95 and you got two in the mail, and somehow they charge you for$79.95 because you've got some other cuisin art thing coming.

SPEAKER_03 19:11

And the Ronco Rotisserie Chicken.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

That's the monthly subscription I was getting to. You cut me off with that.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

I'll cut you off. I was 12 years old, and that man was such an incredible.

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Set it and forget it.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

He had me begging for one of those. I was 12. What do I even need a rotisserie chicken for?

SPEAKER_01 19:31

So and you dip that thing in water for the first time and you go, it sucked the bucket dry. Where does it go? What is this going on? This is the problem with this paint nowadays. You got water-based paint that 30 years ago, water-based paint when you hit a puddle with your car, all your Earl Scheib shit fell off. Okay. Nowadays it's water-based paint coming out of the body shop, and they have to use it. And PPG puts it on there, and it looks like a lacquer car that's been painted with the lacquer finish paint. And you look at this stuff and you're like, How did you put this finish on this car? It didn't look this good last week before the deer hit me. Now, trucks, trucks are the same way, and so is so is the new construction equipment. The paint quality on the new construction equipment is absolutely impeccable. Richie Brothers, though, and we're gonna plug them because they help me out a lot and they're they're good people over there.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

Well, they've earned it.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Largest auction company in the world, Ritchie Brothers found this era many decades ago where they were like, we're gonna run the stuff through the booth, we're gonna wash it, chemically steam it, and then we're gonna take it over to the paint center, and we're gonna put three and a half gallons of cat yellow on this thing, and then we're gonna cut all the runs off of it and run it over the aisle. That in a nutshell started the term Richie Tuneup. Yeah. They painted hoses black, they painted rubber black, everything was cat yellow, whether it was cat or not, and then they sent it over there, and somebody thought they bought a brand new cat timber jack. And the next thing you know, they're like, This isn't even cat. What the hell is this? So it's it's dear fire beware, okay? The only paint that is second to none, one and above where we are today, is whatever that sand matte finished colored crap that the military has used for the last 30 years, it sits out on a beach somewhere out in the sand in the desert, gets sunbaked, and doesn't come off. Now, I want to know where they get this from and what leprechaun piss that they mix into it for the magical shutter ray crap that comes out of it, but it does not absolutely does not falter. And it's not because they cover in cosmoline, it contains the cosmoline. I don't think that's true.

SPEAKER_03 21:45

Do you think that has cosmaline in it?

SPEAKER_01 21:47

No, it contains it, meaning it it actually is it holds together the rest of the machine so the cosmoline stays in what it's lubricating. I I might be out of something with the leprechaun piss because see they they chase the golden rainbow, and I think that that's why when they squeeze that out of the shamwild chamois and they drip it into the paint and mix it in there, it's why it self-levels.

SPEAKER_03 22:09

It does self-level, and it looks it, it's I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

It's so put it on with a brush, a roller, or spit can. And I'm gonna tell you that thing still looks like a you don't even need that.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

You do oh god, I'm gonna sound like your brother now. You literally the Rust Oleum Turbo Spray can, it works awesome. You could paint a car with it.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

I bet you could paint we need the papal on from Rust Oleum and PPG. We got or or or Valspar because they do the caterpillar paint and that stuff coming out of the can. You can spray that in the shop. Let me tell you guys something. We all talk we all see this stuff. We see this stuff on Instagram, but when you're underneath a car or underneath an undercarriage and you got this thing all needle scaled down, 330, 430 in the afternoon, you've been working since 630 in the morning, and you hit that thing with the cat cat primer, yellow primer six, I believe, is what you're looking for. And then you hit it with the top coat and you land underneath there and you know you crawl out from underneath there and you get it get going, you stand up real fast, and then the um gum dum dum dum dum dums come. You're not really sure where you've been for the last four hours. Then you realize you should have been home three hours ago.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Well, I mean you're uh in the unventilated area spraying break clean.

Shop Chemicals Aerosols And Old Tools

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Then you reach for your iPhone that's covered in overspray, by the way, and you scrape it off with your razor blade after you spit on it a few times, and you see all the text messages from your wife, loved one, or cat. And all of it is where are you? Who have you been with? Why are you not here? Fine, I'm leaving, I'm taking the dog. These these this is what gets destroyed. Oh, I get okay to quit high. We're on a topic of paint and self-leveling technology. Here's another one. Oh no, the first aid corporation. What first aid, they sell chemicals to companies and things like that. They're like chemsafe and everybody else. They're probably gonna throw a can at me now. Tim spraying the window with something, trying to yell at me to shut up. We get this stuff from them, and it's solvent in an aerosol can.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Really?

SPEAKER_01 24:15

It removes paint, hair, any kind of coating, plastics. Yeah. And I'm gonna tell you right now, it makes your genes shrivel up to the point you gotta go home and change. But it will absolutely remove grease from anything you spray it on.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Now, let me ask you a question. As a child of a certain age, I do not advocate, promote, or insinuate the production of any kind of homemade weaponry. However, comma, I have known once upon a time, I have been known to manufacture a temporary potato storage container that would deliver said previously stored temporarily potato at least a block and a half with something called AquaNet behind it.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

This would propel it two blocks, my friend. That's it. When it got there, it'd be Julian Fry's.

SPEAKER_03 25:07

Well, uh, we gotta make these. We gotta put a mesh on the end of it, on the end of the nozzle, so like it becomes fries as it shoots out. I think we got a product, my friend.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

I I think we do, but I want to know what guys are using because what this is just our experience. I mean, I know there's shops and people out there, independents, independent mechanics that are out on the road, turn around. What the hell do you guys use out there? Some sites are weird, they don't want you spraying anything, no aerosols, that's a thing now.

SPEAKER_03 25:35

No aerosols is a thing. I guess that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

You've got no aerosols because it creates a vapor that's flammable. You could have that. There's places that uh we work at that are no our tools, battery or not, air only. What are they Amish? It's because of the uh vapor in the air and the potential combustibility of the air product. You I'm talking like air-powered sawzalls, air-powered grinders, air-powered cord drills, all that stuff pneumatically powered.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Well, yeah, I know all about that stuff because when we go up to Wisconsin and hang out with the Mennonites and they do their barn raising, they've got a ton of air tools.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

That they do. And hand crank tools. If anybody's ever watched a Mennonite man drill a hole in a piece of siding and it takes a good two minutes to do with his hand crank mixer with a drill bit stuck to the end of it, you want to yank him down off of there and be like, just let me do it. But somehow he delivers this hole through the siding and puts a screw in it. Yeah. If you would get it yourself with all the power tools in the world, Milwaukee's standing there with their van or Hilti pulls up, or maybe the Hilti and the Milwaukee guy are mud wrestling in the background trying to figure out who's gonna have the better duel, it somehow will put the screw in crooked. But the Amish dude with the hand crank, they went in there dead straight, and the little rubber washer on the end is perfectly smashed against your siding.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

Man, you think you're kidding, but you go into any of these like Ashley Furniture. I'm being serious. I've seen it. Yeah, and then you go go find yourself a real honest to goodness Amish furniture store. You ain't never seen stuff that good. The modern machine cannot make stuff that good.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

Let's talk about our Amish friends that are listening in today from areas like Lancaster, PA, Mansfield, Ohio, Aston.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

But uh, we can send them the telegraph.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

No, no, they're out there with they got the battery radio, they're picking us up. We're only being picked up by 25 radio stations. We're not sure how, but we do. We get them broadcasted. We found them out.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

They're just playing it. How's Garfield doing?

SPEAKER_01 27:38

He had a stroke. No, he didn't. Yep. And he's not thinking about it. You're gonna break my heart, man. He's gonna be he's gonna be okay, but he's been in recovery for six months.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Oh man, well, that's too bad. But he is exactly the kind of dude who would record this and transmit it out over pirate radio for 25 miles.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

I think it's great, and I think that's absolutely what we need to be doing. W-H-E-P, Chicago.

SPEAKER_03 27:59

We're gonna have to have a separate conversation about that.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

Groceries, groceries get delivered. The kid brings the groceries into the house and then asks me what to do with them.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Wow. So back to what I was saying.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Yes, the Meta Night. We need we need terrestrial radio bouncing of this product podcast and and the product of which we record and send out. W H E P Chicago. Oh, I like that. WEP.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

WEP. Time for another web hour. The Web Rockland group.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

The Web Lackland Group. Wrong!

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Issue 94. Death shortages. I ask you, PPA man, what say you?

Con Expo Plans And Military Paint Mystery

SPEAKER_03 28:47

All right. I think we I don't think it's getting any better than that one. But uh one last thing, obviously, if you're listening to this, this one is gonna air right as con expo is opening. So if you are a con expo, you are a construction expo, find us, find us. We're gonna be there. And uh yeah, man. And finally, last call on this, we definitely need to get the PPG guys on here because that military paint. I'll give you this there is an army base, an army guard station not far from me. I drive by it every couple of months, and they have Humvees and they have like old, and I'm talking like old early 80s suburbans in that olive drab stuff, and every vehicle around them has rusted to nothing, and the still alive. I have no idea what is in there. Uh that and apparently, and I was searching this while you were talking, the chemistry of the paint is covered by some military coatings, uh rather some some military uh codes like C O D E S, but apparently is an enamel. It's an enamel paint. I've never heard of that on anything bigger than a 164 scale model.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Well, yeah, I mean, but it's a single stage enamel, probably, or or where you multi-layer it. But again, this is why we got to get somebody out here that knows more about paint than we do. Because I'm I'm all I know is is you know, back in the day, Emron used to make paint, fleet paint, and you could spray that out of a gun. And actually, the one shop that I knew they worked on uh case equipment, they'd have a hot plate sitting off to the side, and you'd put that paint in there and get that where you could barely pick it up, pour it right in the gun and shoot it unthinned. And this stuff looked like look looked like glass. So some you know, sorry, fucking border in the back opens up the door and the cold air hit it and it all hit the floor. But it it it went on the machine like gold. I mean, it was intense. Yeah. I mean those old C and H those old C and H uh paint cans that you can't get that stuff anymore. Iron Guard paint, you can't get that anymore either. It they may call it Iron Guard today, but it's not the same stuff. No, no, no. Oils are the same way. I talked to uh DA lubricants, DA lubricants. Uh they're the ones that own uh the old Brad Penn, Penn's oil, Kendall. They own all that now. And uh they tell me we talk about this all the time about the the watering down and the I would call it abuse of oil's ability. And then we'll get into the whole GM bearing issue.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Yeah, we gotta talk about that.

Next Week Tease And Sponsor Close

SPEAKER_01 31:24

So that's for another episode.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Yeah, so tune in, we'll do the voice. Tune in next week when we talk about the GM bearing issue, the watering down of America's oils, and more. Who's uh who's our sponsor today, Mike? We want to make sure we uh lead them in properly.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Well, today's episode is sponsored by the International Telephone and Telegraph Company. They also own uh Sheridan Hotels and uh Hartford Fire Insurance Company.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

All right, we'll play it out.

SPEAKER_04 31:55

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