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Light Up Your Business
When Love Meets Business: Secrets to a Happy Partnership
We explore the unique dynamics of running a business with your spouse, discussing both the advantages and challenges this partnership brings. Personal anecdotes blend with practical strategies to help couples thrive.
• Understanding the benefits of working with a spouse
• Highlighting common challenges and solutions
• Importance of communication in balancing personal and work life
• Establishing clear roles and responsibilities
• Encouraging individual growth alongside partnership
• Final thoughts and encouragement for couples
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Welcome to the Light Up your Business podcast, the show where we dive deep into the world of small businesses. I'm your host, tammy Hershberger, and each episode will bring you inspiring stories, expert insights and practical tips to help your small business thrive. Whether you're an entrepreneur just starting out or a seasoned business owner, this podcast is your go-to source for success in the small business world. Let's get started to source for success in the small business world. Let's get started. Hello everyone, I want to welcome you back to another episode of Light Up your Business podcast. It's a beautiful day here. I have no idea where you are or where you're driving or what you're thinking, but I hope your day is lovely. Mine's been great. I want to talk to you today about navigating the highs and lows of running a business with your spouse and it's kind of the strategies for having a health relationship with your spouse and your business partner. Not everybody does that. Not everybody can do it. I've talked to different people and some people say they would never work with their spouse. There's people like me who actually we thrive, I think, working together. I think our personalities meld well together and so maybe you're looking at starting your business and you're debating if you should bring your wife in, or if you want to work with your spouse or your husband or whatever. Maybe you are ready together and it's not working great, or maybe you're, I don't know wherever you excuse me, wherever you are. Maybe we just kind of want to look at and see what the options are, or if you're thinking about bringing someone in to help you or whatever. So today we're going to delve into the unique dynamics of maintaining that thriving marriage, while also navigating the complexities of running a business together. I want to discuss strategies to help couples navigate marriage and business by sharing practical advice, my own real life stories and some actionable insights, because I want to bring you valuable guidance for couples navigating the complexities of running a business together.
Speaker 1:Now, I've run a business with my husband. I've run a business with another business partner, and that business partner in this case was my friend. I also own my own business where I have no business partner, and I think the most interesting one is probably the marriage one. Now, I think it's in some ways, the easiest one, but it's also got its own complexities, because you go home and your business partner is also your husband, right, and so there's all these nuances, that kind of go into it, and so I'm going to work through this with you. Hopefully you're going to find it kind of interesting and maybe you'll learn something from it.
Speaker 1:So let's first start with the positive, which is the benefits of running a business with a spouse. So what are the advantages? I'm sure you're thinking to yourself what are those advantages? Well, increased trust and communication is one of them. So, if you think about it from this way, I would hope if you have a good marriage, you trust your spouse right. And I'm going to just kind of put this on my experience, because I am married.
Speaker 1:I've been with John since I was 17 years old. I'm 42. Actually, I think I'm going to be 42. How old am I? No, I am. I'm going to be 42. I'm 41. Oh geez, I'm claiming myself as older than I am. Anyway.
Speaker 1:So we've been together I think 20, going on 24 here, something like that, it's a long time. I think 20, going on 24 here, something like that, it's a long time. And we've been in business together. I think we opened our first business deal in 2009. So we've kind of done different things and for us, because I know my husband, I trust my husband.
Speaker 1:There's something different about it and I'm going to try to explain this to you as best I can, but comparing it to my other business partner I had in the past. They, they have their own spouse right, they have their own life, they have their own business plans, their own business ideas, their own ideas for their family. And then there's me and John. We have our own ideas right, and so I think trust is easy because it's my husband, we're married, we took this vow in front of God and we just know that, like, we have each other's back with another person, it's kind of like they may have my back. They may not, right, they may have the same vision, they may not most likely probably not. And then you have this communication of like it's easy for me and John to communicate. We talk all the time. I see him every day, I see him every night, whereas on the other side, a business partner you know, maybe they're not local, maybe they're more of a business partner that's just kind of is more money focused, or maybe it's someone you talk to once a week or once a month or whatever. And I think with the communication side, it's like it's so much easier to communicate with my husband. Now there's a challenge to that and we'll get to that.
Speaker 1:But just kind of think of it that way Like this person is on your team, you're married to them, right, which then kind of moves us into like our alignment of the values and the goals. So I would again hope that if you married this person, your values and your goals are somewhat similar. Values are super important. I don't think if your values don't line up, you should not be getting married, because you are never going to agree on something, you're never going to agree on how to raise those kids, you're never going to agree on where to live, you're never going to agree on the right and wrongs in life, right. And so I've seen that where and in my business partner, my values were very different than his and I'm not saying he's wrong or I'm right, but they're different. And so we would struggle all the time because we didn't line up on our values.
Speaker 1:Me and my husband are very committed on our values. We both are, you know, believers. We believe in doing things with honesty and integrity, taking care of the customer right, owning up to our mistakes when we mess up, and so that alignment is going to work so much better in your business because you're not going to have this struggle of like, well, I want this and my business partner wants this right. Or I mean employees. There's a little struggle but they just kind of know it's the way it is To work here. You have to do this Well. Business partner is very different. They kind of get a say too in what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:And then goals I mean me and my husband. I kind of noticed this a lot in my other business that I had with my business partner. Our goals started the same, but somewhere, man, they just got way off and it wasn't communicated apparently to me at least, that the goals were changing. And so I'm full steam ahead with the goals we had set and then, like stuff starts to like go awry and I'm like what's happening here? And it's not being communicated to me that all of a sudden the other person's goals were not lining up with mine, and so then you take that with values and it was like a total mess. And so with my husband our goal has always kind of been the same. Now they change a little as we grow older, but me and my husband want to someday have businesses that we either sell or we have people running them so we can have more free time. And our goal has always been, you know, run an honest business, run a business that makes a nice profit, run a business that takes care of its workers and the customers. And then our goal for our family is we want to somebody travel and we want to not have to work all the time, and that's a shared goal, whereas if you have another business partner that's not your spouse their goals may be, you know.
Speaker 1:In my own case, again, my other business partner had little children and so at one time, because I was a workaholic, my goal was to just work and double and grow. And he would say let's double and grow, but he didn't want to put the time in because, whatever reason, one of them being because he has little children Well, if his goal is to only work part time or whatever and have a lot of time with his kids and my goal is to double his business, well those kind of compete against each other and if you can't figure out a system of how's that gonna work, how's that gonna look, who's gonna do what, it can cause a ton of conflict right Anytime, even in your marriage, if your values and your goals and the trust and the communication's messed up, oh, there's gonna be so much conflict, you're gonna hate your life for a little while. And so that is one thing I can say the differences I have noticed with being in business with my spouse. It's one of my favorite things because I just it's like a safety, like I just know he's going to be there. I can trust him to do the job, I can trust him to take care of my customers. You know, the communication is a little interesting sometimes because I'm an over communicator. John's not so much, but I know what he does communicate. It's going to be the truth, it's going to be the best for us and I know his values and goals were heading the same direction.
Speaker 1:There's also a greater flexibility and work-life balance if you're on the same team. And then let me kind of explain it this way so if I worked for Walmart, for example, and John worked for we'll just say Target, we both probably have different schedules. We have different bosses, right, we probably have to some maybe work days, some work nights, I don't know weekends, not weekends, whatever. So our schedules are kind of conflicting sometimes because I have to do what my boss tells me or what the job's telling me. In this case, because we work together. The beauty is we have our company set up and our team set up and the people.
Speaker 1:So if John and I want to take a vacation, we're not having to go to separate companies and say, okay, I'd like to get time off, and then hope that no one else is taking that time off and then try to get those to match up. Or if I want to take a Friday off or I have a dentist appointment, he has a dentist appointment or whatever, like it's. It's so much simpler in my own business because you can believe, if I'm going on vacation, he's going with me, right, and so we can go together and we just make that decision. Also, if I leave, I know I have him here right Now. He doesn't do my job per se, but I know that like it's in good hands if I leave right. Or I feel like if there's a function and I want him to go too, we're kind of on the same team at that function right, because we're both talking about our business, we're both learning about the business or whatever, and then we have this shared passion and the commitment to the business.
Speaker 1:Now I've seen that in situations, for example, with my other business partner. His person, his significant other, was not interested in the business I think, became very jealous of it. It does happen they call it your business, becomes your mistress, because you spend so much time, especially in the beginning, building it that your spouse gets kind of left out and they don't always want to hear about the business. They get sick of hearing about it. Well, the good news is, john and I, we have that shared passion, we have that commitment to the business and so we both are on the same page. We kind of already know what's happening. We're not jealous of it, we're kind of both excited about promoting it and growing it and it makes it so we're like on the same page.
Speaker 1:Now that we've talked about all these great things, let's talk about the challenges on the other side. So these are going to be interesting because they can be deal killers for some people. For me, we figure it out, but okay. So some common challenges, balancing the personal and professional boundaries. This one can be, can be tough sometimes because from my own experience you know, john and I work together every day. So sometimes he makes me mad's a fact, I make him mad sometimes and in those moments of like you're really pissing me off.
Speaker 1:Right now, the reality has to come in that like, okay, wait a minute. Am I mad at you as my husband in that perspective, or am I kind of upset with you because you're my co, my co-worker, my boss? What is it? And in this case we're business partners. So I'm like I have to kind of remember that I can't just be the wife here. I have to be business partner. And you have to kind of flip your mind. Instead of like don't take it personally as the wife. Maybe look at it more from a lens of if this was my business partner, would I be okay with what they're saying or would I take it so personal? Right, obviously you don't want to be mushy all the time around your employees. You got to keep that boundary because you don't want to just be gross little married couple, but I think you also don't want to treat each other poorly either. So you have to keep this business professional of like At work we're business partners, at home we're husband and wife.
Speaker 1:That challenge also gets interesting because sometimes you carry your work home with you, which is the next one managing disagreements and conflicts. So maybe John and I just had a rough day at work and things went awry. We didn't agree as business partners or whatever, and we're kind of annoyed with each other. Well, guess what happens? This man and myself we go home and now I have to face this guy who's annoyed me all day or maybe I'm still mad about something or whatever and I have to now face him and try not to drag work home. And I think that becomes very hard because with your spouse not in the business, she doesn't know about it. Maybe you're not even gonna tell her about it, maybe you don't want to harp on it, or maybe she can give you a different perspective. But in my case, I go home and I'm like oh yeah, john, john annoyed me, he hurt my feelings there, he didn't do something the way I wanted, or blah, blah, blah, and so you have to kind of work on not dragging that stuff home. And then you have to be careful about not bringing work home all the time, because that's something I did. I always worked and you have to kind of leave work at work, and so I've been much better about that.
Speaker 1:Like, when I get home, I don't really want to talk about work. I want to just talk about like, let's do something fun, let's hang out, let's cuddle, whatever let's make it us time. And I've kind of struggled with on vacations in the past, but the last two I'm very proud of myself, I've kind of stuck in. I didn't bring my computer to on vacation, I didn't want to talk about work. I kind of was able to separate, which is really important.
Speaker 1:And then you have this power dynamic and this decision-making dynamic. That can be interesting. So again, you can't pull rank. So if I'm at home and not every woman's going to love this, but I'm going to be honest women can I mean everybody can be manipulative, but women have this power over their husbands, right. And so if you use it wrong, it can be bad. And I think you have to make sure you're not like well, I'm the wife, so I'm going to just do what I want.
Speaker 1:Well, if my business partner doesn't like what I'm doing in the business or has an idea and I'm just shooting it down, that's pretty unfair because I'm his wife. I have to stop that and I have to look at the perspective of like my business partner maybe wants to grow the business or change or do something. I have to look at him in a different light, right, we have to also make sure that we're being respectful of each other and the fact that it's not husband-wife right now, it's, you know, John and myself as business partners and we have different perspectives and we have to be careful so we don't just override all that. And then you have to have these different identities right, maintaining the individual identity outside of the business. So that's not bringing it home. That's, you know, not john.
Speaker 1:You know maybe, john, I do a lot for john, the business as far as meeting, paperwork, and I help him where I can. I don't want to see that just dragged at home where I have to do everything there because I'm like are you ready? I do that at work, I don't want to do that here, right, or I don't know, maybe in your business, maybe you're, you're more the decision maker and the other spouse is not. You don't want to drag that home with you because that can cause some serious problems. So if we look at that now, we say, okay, well, how do we make this successful, this business partnership with my spouse? How is this going to be successful? Well, here's some tips and strategies for you to use to run your business together within the marriage and still keep it happy and still enjoy running your business.
Speaker 1:So you want to establish clear roles and responsibilities. You want to clearly define your role in your marriage and in your business so you can avoid confusion, like establish specific times for business discussions versus personal time. Right, john and I try not to bring too much personal time into work. Now we might go to lunch together, have a coffee date or something like that, but business time is business time. Home time is home time. Now, once in a while you'll get that blur, but you've got to be careful about doing that because I would kind of I was pretty bad about that one time.
Speaker 1:Then you want to identify your strengths right, divide those roles up, determine who's going to do what, what the responsibilities are in the business, and if your partner is really good at sales and other operations, then assign those tasks accordingly. So, for example, john knows I am I'm just really good in the office, I'm good with organizing, I'm a good leader, that kind of stuff, and so he lets me pretty much run the office. John is the delivery guy. He loves being out on the road, he loves driving, so we put him in that role. He also kind of has a hybrid role, which he doesn't have to do a lot because our guys are pretty damn amazing, but he goes and he'll, you know, check on the guys. He'll help me order materials. Sometimes he'll talk to the guys about certain jobs and how they need to be done or pricing stuff, so he'll get pulled in a little bit for that. But we've really defined our role.
Speaker 1:So then it's important that, like John doesn't come in now and try to do my job, because that's going to drive me crazy, and if I go out there and try to micromanage him and his guys, that's going to drive him crazy. And so I think we're really clear on our roles and what we do. Then it's really important to communicate openly and honestly. You need to frame those discussions in a way that is like a collaborative way, right? So like everybody kind of gets a say Use the words we instead of I or you, to promote teamwork and share responsibility. So don't just make it I run this business, I do that. I'm sick of this. Be like we are going to share this. We're going to push this business right. Turn it into a team.
Speaker 1:You want to encourage honest feedback by reassuring each other that all opinions are valued and the constructive criticism is aimed at improvement, not personal attacks. You don't want to just come to him and like BS him. You don't want to come to him and attack him. You just need to come to him and say okay, in the moments that this happens this is how it makes me feel, not when you do this blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, that's going to kind of set him on defense and he's going to probably stop listening. So you want to make sure you frame that in a way that like so he sees that it's bothering you, but not an attack on him.
Speaker 1:And then you really want to focus on seeing each other's viewpoints right, like you've got to take yourself out of your shoes and put yourself in them, reflect back to them what you're hearing them say, and then ask clarifying questions. So like if John and I have a discussion, he says you know X, y, z, whatever. I'm going to rephrase that back and say okay, if I understand you correctly, you're telling me blank, right? So in this case I'll make something up. Like, if I understood you correctly, you're telling me that when I say you never do this, it hurts my feelings. I mean, that's something that comes up, the word never. I don't like it. I'm like if you say to me you never do this, it means I've never once done it, and that's bullcrap. That doesn't work for me. So that's like in our own marriage. That's something we have to watch because that bothers me.
Speaker 1:So just kind of always try to put yourself in their shoes, have some mercy and grace on them, because also, you know, maybe they were annoying today, but you don't know, maybe John gets screamed at by a guy on the road, or maybe his delivery went awry, or, like me, today I've had a crazy hectic day and maybe I'm a little stressed. Well, you know, maybe I can put myself in their shoes and say, well, I had a great day, but maybe they didn't and maybe something bad happened or whatever, and so that'll help you, I think. Be more merciful to them and kind. You want to set those boundaries, carve out that time for personal pursuits. You want to set those boundaries, carve out that time for personal pursuits? Okay, so this one was like two years ago. I didn't know what the hell this was, but I have figured that out. I'm definitely in a very different place.
Speaker 1:So you want to make those conscious efforts to leave business discussions at the office or during scheduled meetings right, create rituals to switch gears when transitioning from work to home. And those rituals can be, you know, just on the way home, turn the music on, turn your phone off, whatever. Try to transition your mind from I'm work, now I'm, you know, boss, to like get home and now I'm husband and daddy right. Or I'm wife and mommy. You got to kind of have some kind of way to transition yourself from that Kind of like. When you come home, you know your mind's going 100 miles in a minute and you're just trying to like survive the day. And then you get home and now you've got to turn into wife or mom, right. Or, if you're a boy, dad, right. So work on figuring that out.
Speaker 1:You want to make sure you discuss and establish those shared goals for both your marriage and your business and you want to align on common objectives to foster unity and cooperation. Because the problem is, if you're like I'm going to double, double, double and we're going to be on the road 700 days a year, I mean that's not realistic, that's double a year, but you know what I'm saying. If I'm going to be on the road 365 days a year. That's the goal for the business, because I want to triple it. But then you have this marriage goal of spending more time together. Well, that doesn if you have this goal. You want to spend time with your kids on Saturdays to go to their games? Well, if your goal is also to trip your business and you're gonna have to work every weekend, that's not going to work and that's going to make your spouse mad and your kids mad. So think about that stuff. You also want to support each other's individual growth. Right as partners.
Speaker 1:Engage in activities that promote personal well-being, which in turn benefits your partnership both personally and professionally. So if you're a fan of soccer, go to soccer games or play soccer or go exercise or go run or whatever it is you like to do. Have coffee on Saturday mornings, read the paper. If you are miserable as a person, you're going to be miserable as a business partner, you're going to be miserable as a spouse and you're going to be miserable as a parent. So, like, figure that stuff out, because when you're happy, it's going to come through to your children, your business, everybody, your friendships everywhere, and then that's part of fostering those individual hobbies and interests outside of the business.
Speaker 1:Work is not all good, I told one of my coaching clients. I said, you know, make sure he was on a business trip. But I said, try to have some fun while you're there, because all work and no play makes you a dull boy. And I'm like. It's true. When I used to work all the time I was so miserable, I hated my life and I'm sure everybody noticed it because I just wasn't happy, I wasn't smiling, I wasn't having fun. And I've changed all that, I'm not doing that anymore.
Speaker 1:And then you want to create space for quality time together outside of the business. That's so important for your marriage. Regularly assess how you both are feeling about the business and your relationship. Make sure you allow it to be free-flowing, right, open dialogue, talk about the concerns, develop rituals that promote connection. You know, have weekly date nights or morning check-ins. Engage in hobbies or activities together outside of the workplace. That way you can, you know, have this positive atmosphere.
Speaker 1:Schedule those short trips or those weekend getaways to refresh your relationships away from the pressure of business. I actually find that these shorter three, four-day trips to me are so much more fun than a week and a half or two-week trip because I'm gone too long, I kind of start to miss home and then I'm so far behind at work it stresses me out when, if I'm just gone for three or four days, it's so much easier. I relax more. I find it's less less stress because it's less expensive. So you know, I'd rather have more of those than these big long trips. That's just me. Maybe you're different.
Speaker 1:Cultivate resilience and support. Acknowledge the stressors that come with entrepreneurship and other you know stresses that come into that, and then offer each other support during the tough times. We don't have to pretend like it's all okay all the time. Allow each other space for personal time, self-care, you know. Let them have time to go to the gym, let them have time to read the paper in quiet or do quiet time or whatever they like to do. Don't constantly be on each other's backs because we all have to recharge, we all need to take care of ourselves. And then remember that entrepreneurship comes with unpredictability. Patience during tough times is essential. Try not to lose your patience so fast.
Speaker 1:Don't do those regular revisiting of your core values as a couple right, having a shared foundation that helps you navigate challenges with a unified approach and then really acknowledge that you both have successfully navigated the changes in the past and then reinforce that like we've had tough times. We stuck it out, we got through it together and it'll happen again and we can do it together. If you have to seek outside support, that's great, I mean. If not, I still recommend it. Get a mentor, get some kind of counselor, get a therapist, whatever. Work with a business coach or a marriage counselor to navigate the complexities of being both spouse and business partners. It can be hard. Celebrate successes and milestones together, acknowledge and celebrate both personal and business achievements together. It'll reinforce your teamwork as people together and it strengthens that bond. Surround yourself with supportive friends and family who can provide encouragement and perspective yourself with supportive friends and family who can provide encouragement and perspective. So I think it's really important.
Speaker 1:I've watched John and I over the years grow and learn to communicate and learn to share and learn to. You know, let the stuff out, and I think you just have to work on being a team. I mean, I think some of the biggest lessons I've learned would be to chill out out, relax, take time for myself, communicate with my husband, communicate with my business partner. You know I'm a good communicator but I have a hard time. I almost become like a pit bull with a with a bone or a dog with a bone, like I just won't let it go and sometimes I forget that, like we all have our own stuff, we're all at different paces, we're all different and, man, there's so much I've learned in this life that I see to do differently now. And it's okay to make those mistakes, it's okay to learn that stuff and now I can just be better, going forward. I'm not going to beat myself up over it over the past, because it's done, I can't change it, but I'm going to keep going forward and be better. I'm going to be a better spouse, better business partner, better business coach, better friend, because I've learned these things.
Speaker 1:So some advice I want to give you. I mean I've already given you a ton here. I don't know what you want from me. No, I'm just kidding. But truly, if you're thinking about venturing into an entrepreneurship together, starting a business, whatever, make sure you have those shared vision and goals. Kind of have those conversations, get that plan together. Setting those shared goals ensures that both are on the same path and you're going to have the same outcome. Define the clear roles and responsibilities, discuss the expectations, set clear boundaries from the beginning, define each other's partner's role so you don't overlap and there's no confusion, and it'll give you both, as a couple, more strength and your business will be way more organized.
Speaker 1:You know, and sometimes when it's just you and your spouse, I remember my other business partner, when I we started, there was like our names were on everything. I was like I'm marketing, I'm advertising, I'm, I'm office, I'm bookkeeper, I'm HR, I'm all these things, and he had to do all these things and I was like I don't know how we're gonna do all this, but over time you'll fill those roles with other people, but we did it together. You know our business survived until we didn't do stuff together anymore. Somewhere we just got way off. You know, the walls were built, resentment were built and it just completely destroyed the business in this perspective of like our partnership. And so I don't want that to happen to you, because in a marriage it's even worse, because you're losing your family, you're losing those vows you made in front of God, and it's so important to figure that stuff out.
Speaker 1:You want to really embrace flexibility. Be prepared for the unique dynamics of working with your spouse. If you've never done it, it is interesting, but it's also fun. It'll help you kind of navigate the up and down of entrepreneurship. Flexibility is something that I have been well I struggled with this year. Just a few months ago, my therapist told me she's like let's work on you being more flexible.
Speaker 1:Practice being more flexible Meaning, like you know, don't be so harsh and strict, and I live in a box sometimes and I forget that, like I have to come out of that box. It's more fun getting out of the box right. It doesn't have to be perfectly in this little box all the time. My old business partner taught me that, like, get out of the box right, just be different, think different, try different things. You want to have that open communication. Make sure you're having open communication, mutual respect for each other. Make sure you have this environment where both partners can express your ideas without being told they're stupid. Express your concerns without them being thrown away or told that, oh, just get over it. Well, that's not how it works. And then have this honest feedback right. Have regular check-ins that can help address any issues before they escalate. John and I are really good about that because we live together.
Speaker 1:My other business partner. We did so good with that until it just like the meetings dropped off. He wouldn't show up Business things happened and we couldn't make meetings whatever, and the more those fell away, the worse the communication got, and then that's when the whole thing crumbled. It just wasn't good anymore. And that's true in life and in marriage and friendships. And so I want you to remember to embrace the opportunity to work together as a couple, leverage your unique strengths and perspectives to help build a successful business and a life.
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Speaker 1:Today In this podcast, we explored the benefits and challenges of running a small business with your spouse, along with strategies to help navigate the journey together. Along with strategies to help navigate the journey together. I hope you feel empowered to make informed decisions that will accelerate your growth and help you achieve your business goals as a team. Thank you guys so much for listening. Like, share, subscribe, you know, tell your friends about me, and I'm just excited to see what you guys are doing. You're doing great things, so I thank you and I will see you guys next time.
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