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Exploring Space Part One
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The cosmos beckons us with its infinite mysteries, and in this episode, Hannah and Davey dive headfirst into the captivating journey of space exploration. Starting with the historic Space Race that saw Russia launch Sputnik and cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin become the first human to orbit Earth, we trace humanity's remarkable steps beyond our atmosphere.
Remember Neil Armstrong's iconic "one small step" on the lunar surface while Michael Collins orbited above? We explore the famous Apollo missions, including the near-disaster of Apollo 13 and how astronauts MacGyvered their way back to Earth with duct tape and plastic bags. The conversation takes us through space shuttle developments, the Challenger tragedy, and the engineering marvel that is the International Space Station – which circles our planet every 90 minutes at a mind-boggling 17,500 mph.
As father and daughter, we bring different perspectives to modern space developments, particularly the rise of private space ventures from Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson. Is this billionaire space race advancing science or just an expensive "measuring contest"? And what about those rocket designs that seem suspiciously... phallic?
The episode wraps with philosophical musings about humanity's place in the universe. Could we really be alone among the countless galaxies? As Davey puts it, "To think we're the only planet in the entire universe that can sustain life is incredibly unlikely."
This is just part one of our cosmic journey! Subscribe now for part two, where we'll share fascinating facts about our solar system, delve deeper into the search for extraterrestrial life, and explore the future of space travel. Join our father-daughter adventure through the stars!
Hello and welcome to Bonus Dad. Bonus Daughter a special father-daughter podcast with me Hannah and me, davy, where we discuss our differences, similarities, share a few laughs and stories. Within our ever-changing and complex world, Each week we will discuss a topic from our own point of view and influences throughout the decades, or you could choose one by contacting us via email, instagram, facebook or TikTok Links in bio.
Speaker 2:Hello and welcome to another episode of Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter. We are live from the living room, not live.
Speaker 1:I don't know why. I always say this Live from the living room we're live at the moment.
Speaker 2:We are live, we're live, we're live. But this is a pre-recording. This is a pre-recording yeah. So not live at all. I don't know why. I just feel like I go into this radio monologue and I just feel like I don't know, I feel like it would really boost our presence.
Speaker 1:It's also the first one of the day as well, and the first one of the day always is a little bit kind of awkward, because we just set everything up and then we're like ready to go, go. And then you're like, ah, what do? And then you're like, ah, ah, yeah, what do we do?
Speaker 2:It's not like we haven't done nearly 100 episodes. I know, I know. I know there is something I did want to quickly say to our audience. If you're watching this on YouTube right now, we have only just recently started posting on YouTube. If you want to listen to any of our previous episodes, they're all on all streaming platforms. We have God 50, 60, 70?.
Speaker 1:What episodes? Yeah, we've got about 83, 84. Oh, we're getting close to 100 then, yeah, we are, yeah, getting close to 100.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we only started filming them recently, so this is very new to us, the whole filming side of things. But yeah, we've got loads in the past in the bank if you will, this will be video seven. Maybe yeah, Depending on which way which order they come out with.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'll put this one out. Oh okay, yeah, so this will be video seven. This is video seven, then Seven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, we are primarily an audio podcast originally and we're still keeping it audio topical to talk about space, because we've just had one of our very own pop singers.
Speaker 1:She's not one of ours. She's not one of ours. She's not English.
Speaker 2:She's not English. I don't know. Katy Perry went into space in case you missed that news but did she? I feel like she brushed the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:Did she really go into space?
Speaker 2:I mean, she brushed the atmosphere. This isn't one of those things. Did America land on the moon and plant the flag?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, that's what I mean as in. Would you class where she actually went, how far she went up? Would you class that as space? I had this discussion with my brother, Anthony.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And when I said about it to him and he went, yeah, but she didn't really to me he said to me space is anything past the moon. He said he reckons that anything between here and the moon is just, it's just our local atmosphere. He says it's not really space as such, is it? Do you agree?
Speaker 2:I don't know if I do, if you, if you get out of gravity as pull, I think you're in space.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're talking about they did if you can see the real curvature of the earth. Sorry flat earthers that you're actually in space yeah yeah, you'd agree with that statement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think so I don't know, did they see the curvature of the earth?
Speaker 1:oh well, I would have thought so they did. Well, I think they were floating around a lot, weren't they all just enjoying?
Speaker 2:I was gonna say they were floating around. I think they were out there what for like 10 minutes yeah, they went out there long she was holding a daisy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I've daughters called daisy, so it was like oh, what got me, though, about that entire experience was the shape of the rocket. I'm sorry, oh, it just looked like a penis. It genuinely looked like a penis flying up into space.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to say the thing that bugged you the most was the fact that they're all now being called astronauts.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're not astronauts. That's the bit that bugs me the most. Yeah, they're not astronauts. A lot of controversy. It did look like a giant penis. It really did. It reminded me of a film in the 80s called Flesh Gordon. Right, you would never have seen that it's such a, is it?
Speaker 2:a Flesh Gordon rip off.
Speaker 1:Complete Flesh Gordon rip off. It was a rude version of Flesh Gordon and the rocket was shaped like a penis in that film.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it just, it just reminded me of that.
Speaker 1:Really, I see, it really did. Yeah, but I think we would probably say that this episode will be a two-parter, because I've done quite a lot of work on this oh my exactly this, oh my you have quite a few pages. On this one there's a lot exactly. You haven't even seen this, have you? You never prepare for a podcast I.
Speaker 2:I feel like my lack of preparation makes this podcast like I. I really genuinely feel that it because then you get my genuine reaction. Yeah, that's true like whoa, that's so cool if I pre-prepare, I'm like, oh, that's so cool yeah, that is true, actually, to be fair. So, um, so yeah, so we're gonna be just a yeah, so we're going to be talking. I'm just a busy gal yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're going to be talking a little bit about space, the universe, the cosmos, all of that, and also I put a little bit in about the future of space travel as well oh hell, About all things. And I did a little bit on searching for life. Oh, that freaks me out. So I think this will end up being a two-parter. Who is your favourite person regarding space? Do you have?
Speaker 2:a favourite person Regarding space.
Speaker 1:I do when it comes to space and when it comes to the universe. I've got a person who is my favourite person I like, is it? I'm going to get this wrong? Is it Neil deGrasse Tyson?
Speaker 2:Oh right, okay, Am I I like? Is it? I'm going to get this wrong? Is it Neil deGrasse Tyson? Alright, okay am I getting that wrong?
Speaker 1:no, no, that's because I know there's like a boxer with a very similar name. Yeah, yeah, that's Mike Tyson, right cool so.
Speaker 2:Michael deGrasse Tyson.
Speaker 1:Mike deGrasse deGrasse yeah, whatever I said, yeah he's cool, I like his documentaries.
Speaker 2:But I know you're going to say Absolutely, Brian Cox.
Speaker 1:The man is a legend, he is a national treasure Protect him at all costs. And a musician. He is a musician as well. He's a keyboard player in D-Ream. There you go. Things can only get better. There you go.
Speaker 2:There you go yeah. Neil deGrasse Tyson, neil deGrasse Tyson, not Mike.
Speaker 1:Neil deGrasse Tyson. No, I just think Brian just so down to earth and he's so excited about his subject yeah, yeah, he is genuine. I mean he, he's just, he's just a nice guy yeah I just think he's a brilliant person.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people would probably say stephen hawking as well like a great mind as well. Oh he's, yeah. Yeah he like. He discovered I know he had a theory about something and then worked his whole life to dispute his own theory, which is quite fun yeah, um so so yeah yeah, what a chap.
Speaker 1:Yes, so space is a very big place so I hear yes, uh started off with, of course, the big bang, although some people do dispute that I feel that that is the leading theory.
Speaker 2:But there, may you know you can see it, so yeah, you can. Actually, may you know you can see it, so yeah, you can actually see the Big Bang.
Speaker 1:We can see it.
Speaker 2:But whether that was the start of the universe or just the start of our universe.
Speaker 1:Now you're getting into all sorts of questions.
Speaker 2:I'm going philosophical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because I mean you could ask. You know, there's the argument of the multiverse as well is that there's multiple, multiple universes and there's the argument of the multiverse as well is that there's multiple, multiple universes and there's lots of theories and, to be fair, I think that's got some legs.
Speaker 2:Multiverse yeah.
Speaker 1:I do it's very Marvel.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's that deep.
Speaker 1:I don't know. When you think of the universe, what is beyond the universe, what is it, you start getting your mind.
Speaker 2:I like to think, horton, here's a who we are, a little speck on someone else's daisy in a cup.
Speaker 1:Like the end of Men in Black.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when he opens the thing we're like a just tiny little thing in a marble we're a tiny little thing In an alien's marble. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, because if you think about nuclear weapons and they split the atom, there is an argument that what you're actually doing is you are destroying a universe because the atom is another universe.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Death, destruction. Someone will split our atom.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So when you think about that, it is basically infinite, yeah, infinite upon it, and just try and get your head around that I I honestly this, this whole subject makes my brain hurt yeah, it is absolutely mind-blowing I I struggle to think when.
Speaker 2:When I discuss things like this, I always think what is my purpose?
Speaker 1:I have no, don't start.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you start, you just go down really bad rabbit holes and you're like yeah I it's, it's depressive stages. Yeah, it's just yeah. Who am I?
Speaker 1:You're Hannah.
Speaker 2:Where am I? Who, how am?
Speaker 1:I Horton Hez-a-who. Yeah, Horton Hez-a-who. So Dr Seuss had it yeah.
Speaker 2:He had it down.
Speaker 1:When we look at space and we look at the beginnings, particularly of space exploration, the Russians actually led quite a lot of it. Yeah, because in innings, particularly of space exploration, the russians actually led quite a lot of it in, because in 1957, they launched something called sputnik.
Speaker 2:Yes, I, I know about sputnik. The only reason I know about sputnik is because, uh, when I used to watch movies about ice skating when I was little, every russian ice skater was called a little sputnik yes, they were indeed a little star.
Speaker 1:Yes, so in 1957 they launched the first artificial satellite into orbit.
Speaker 2:See, had we prepared for this episode, I wouldn't have shared that fact.
Speaker 1:That's true actually to be fair, it's all coming to me, so I'm all the preparation and you're all the improv.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're all the fact yeah. I'm all the fiction. I am the ying to your yang. You're the ying to my yang. I like that. I like that. I am the ying to your yang You're the ying to my yang.
Speaker 1:I like that. I like that. Sorry, please carry on. I keep interrupting you. No, you're fine. You're fine. So that actually sparked the space race.
Speaker 2:It did with America.
Speaker 1:And it ignited the Cold War era space race. But did you know that Sputnik's beep beep signals beep beep, beep beep. They could be picked up by amateur radio operators. Wow, so yeah, people could pick them up from the.
Speaker 1:Which means they're either really loud, no, they just tune into that particular frequency. Or really good at tuning, yeah, yeah, just tune into that frequency. The first human in space was a Russian called Yuri Gagarin. I'm actually going to pronounce that name, even though it's Russian, so it's not like 60 million thousand letters or consonants, or consonants, yeah, and he orbited the Earth in just 108 minutes, and that proved that humans could survive spaceflight.
Speaker 2:Man. He was the guinea pig.
Speaker 1:He was the guinea pig, the literal guinea pig yeah. So can you imagine like how terrified he must have been going up.
Speaker 2:But also if he I don't know if he would have been terrified, because if you had volunteered, presumably he volunteered and wasn't forced into it. Well, had he volunteered for that? He? Was probably an adrenaline junkie and thought this this is the height of me. Yeah, go into space, the first human in space. Well, we don't know. He is the first human in space. This could have happened many years ago before the dinosaur situation. Yeah, there's theories about Mars and all of that as well. Isn't there Mars? Is there life on Mars?
Speaker 1:There is indeed.
Speaker 2:Look at the Lord.
Speaker 1:So he actually he did become a global celebrity and a national hero in Russia.
Speaker 2:Fair enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that mission was an absolute success. And in, but also prior to that, Jules Verne. Well, you won't know Jules Verne. Yeah, you know Jules Verne.
Speaker 2:I've never heard the name before.
Speaker 1:You've never heard the name Jules Verne. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? No, no Journey to the Centre of the Earth.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:The Time Machine. No Well, Jules Verne was an author, and they wrote a story in 1865 whereby a giant cannon launched explorers to the moon so he, he predicted it he predicted it.
Speaker 2:I guess I think you know as a.
Speaker 1:I think Jules Verne was actually female as a oh, do you know? What just? I'm just going to google that just carry on. I just feel like as a creator of a novel you would base.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, is that?
Speaker 2:your alarm.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, that's WhatsApp chats. That's WhatsApp chats.
Speaker 2:Sputnik's beeps, because I'm a popular boy. Yeah, yes. So what was I going to say? Yeah, I feel like when you're exposed to, I mean, 1865, that would have been. Is that like the time of Galileo, or am I really off?
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, you're off.
Speaker 2:Well, in that case, what I was thinking was like I guess creators the possibility of going into space would be quite a cool thing to write about. It's not that they predicted the future, it's more, just like you know, they predicted that it could happen and therefore wrote about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's cool. Yeah Was Jules Verne. Jules Verne was male. Jules Gabriel Verne was a French novelist, poet and playwright.
Speaker 2:His collaboration I demand to see the birth certificate.
Speaker 1:Yes, well.
Speaker 2:Because a lot of female writers, the reason I'm saying that oh, no, yeah, okay, that is a man. Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough. Yeah, I was just gonna say, like I know, like a lot of women, well, they did who's to know that a woman didn't help him write it?
Speaker 1:well, that's very true. Well, even, even. And then he just took a lot, of, a lot of authors just use their initials because they were female jk rowling jk rowling is famous example because mary shelly didn't even publish it under mary shelly.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what her pen name was before, but no, that's true, because female authors weren't taken.
Speaker 1:Well, females in general over history weren't taken seriously.
Speaker 2:We're never taken seriously.
Speaker 1:I take you seriously.
Speaker 2:Thank you, there you go. I wish we were taken more seriously in healthcare, but that's another podcast episode.
Speaker 1:That is, we do need to do a podcast episode. I know that might be a bit of a tough one for you, but I think we should maybe do one. Okay, yeah, we should maybe do one On your head, be it. Yeah, I'll get irate. You've got your little Instagram thing as well, haven't you?
Speaker 2:I do my growing.
Speaker 1:Would you like to advertise that?
Speaker 2:I feel like we could do that in an episode.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll do it. Let's stick with space. I'll stick with space.
Speaker 2:Space is cool and fun, let's stick.
Speaker 1:So a few years later, we had the Apollo 19 mission, which is the very famous mission whereby Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first humans to walk on the moon, while Michael Collins stayed in the command module orbiting above. I feel a bit gutted for Michael, I really do. Well, you've got Neil Armstrong and Buzz sort of like jumping around on the moon, and poor old Michael is still stuck up in there, stuck in the spaceship, watching his two mates I really do. Well, you've got Neil Armstrong and Buzz sort of like jumping around on the moon.
Speaker 2:And poor old Michael is still stuck up in there, stuck in the spaceship, watching his two mates wandering the surface of the moon. I would be gutted, wouldn't you? I don't know, maybe you didn't want to, maybe you felt safer in the module. I think I would. I'm all right, chaps you go and have fun you go.
Speaker 1:I'll stay here. I'll stay with the engine running.
Speaker 2:Also, I know this is going to sound awful, but again, not really my era. Well, just before your era as well, you weren't even born. At this point, I have never heard of Michael Collins, and I know that sounds very awful, but I've heard of Neil Armstrong, buzz Aldrin, so I do feel a little bit sorry for Michael Collins.
Speaker 1:I've not really heard that name of Michael Collins. I have heard the name Michael Collins, but that's a whole different subject. Yeah, but I haven't heard the name Michael Collins to do with.
Speaker 2:In this context, in this context.
Speaker 1:But the astronauts apparently did leave a plaque behind and it says we came in peace for all mankind. And they also left the US flag and other artifacts like tools and scientific equipment.
Speaker 2:So they left rubbish the US flag and other artefacts like tools and scientific equipment. So they left rubbish, yeah, and that flag to this day has caused the most controversial thing of all time.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:About whether they actually landed there or not, because it doesn't, because it looks like it's swaying in the wind, but there's no wind, or something that's right, but it was the design of the flag.
Speaker 1:There's all talk about the shadows. To talk about the camera angles.
Speaker 2:Did they design it so that it looked like it was waving? Is that kind of?
Speaker 1:the point. Yeah, I mean, there was even the point. They even said at one point they thought Stanley Kubrick had directed it in Area 51. Well, I still think like a flag on the moon.
Speaker 2:If they're going to put a flag on the moon, but they want it to look outright and stretched and look like the American flag, they're obviously going to do something to make it look like that. Of course, because, uh, just a pole with a bit of fabric on it.
Speaker 1:Just hanging loose is just shit. So do you know what the most compelling piece of evidence that we have actually been to the moon is?
Speaker 2:is it the footprint? Not the footprint because there's a footprint right there is a footprint.
Speaker 1:no, right, there is a footprint, no, but we have actually, or Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, left reflectors on the moon that we use today. So we actually pin, say we don't NASA does. Nasa pins lasers.
Speaker 2:Me and you, bonus dad, bonus daughter, we do it. Yeah, we ping.
Speaker 1:They ping lasers off these reflectors that were left on the moon by the astronauts. So it definitely happened. It definitely happened. Of course it happened.
Speaker 2:I feel that's kind of weird, like Holocaust deniers as well.
Speaker 1:I think. To be honest, I think they're sick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it happened. It happened. I don't understand how you think that didn't happen.
Speaker 1:It's people trying to rewrite history, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then it becomes a movement, and then it becomes a thing, and then it becomes a movement and then it becomes a thing I know.
Speaker 1:But yeah, let's ignore all of the evidence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like flat earthers.
Speaker 1:And testimonials and all of that, and yeah, let's run up, yeah, anyway, so in 1970, there was Apollo 13.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're getting closer to your birth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2:But when you think about it, when you think why did they go from Apollo 11 to 13? What happened to?
Speaker 1:12? There would have been another. There would have been Apollo 12. Okay, there would have been another mission, but when you think about it, I mean I don't know when the Wright brothers actually flew Early 1900s, so they were the first flight, the ones who designed the first aeroplane. So you think within what it actually.
Speaker 2:only took them like 50 years yeah, from flight to then going to the moon that's pretty impressive to be honest, I mean when you think about I mean they poured a lot of money in it.
Speaker 1:There was a race, yeah yeah, but when you think about how technology is, technology didn't move or was stagnant for thousands upon thousands of years and then suddenly after the industrial revolution, damn, it kind of went, just went nuts. But there is also the argument that we have had a lot of this technology before but it's been wiped out through wars and battles and all of that as well.
Speaker 2:And the island, sentinel Island that we spoke about in our previous. If you haven't caught that episode, it was very cool. It was about forbidden places. Don't think we've it wasn't a visual one, was it Audio?
Speaker 1:It's an audio one. No, that one's audio, only that's one to listen on your work break slash commute.
Speaker 2:Go listen to that yeah.
Speaker 1:But Apollo 13 was particularly famous for one reason, in that the crew nearly died. So what happened was was an oxygen tank exploded?
Speaker 2:on the way to the moon. Yeah, fire and space don't mix. It's like oil and water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there we go. And the engineers and the astronauts. They actually use duct tape, plastic bags and their own kind of MacGyver shit to get them out of it.
Speaker 2:Duct tape is such a ghetto repair. It is.
Speaker 1:I think, does it move? Should it?
Speaker 2:And then you have the flow chart with the duct tape on WD-40. Who invented duct tape?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but the man, whoever man, female, could have been any gender.
Speaker 2:Could have been either, but genius.
Speaker 1:Absolute genius.
Speaker 2:I used to hold my car together my Peugeot, my bumper.
Speaker 1:Anyway, carry on. But there's a very famous line to do with Apollo 13.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I'm aware of this one, which we all, most of us, have said it Houston, we've got a problem. Yeah, exactly, but it's kind of like it's one of those knowing of, yeah, we've got a problem yeah, yeah, it's not supposed to be that prolific, I guess no. But yeah, houston, we've got a problem in fact, going back to the Apollo 11 mission, remember Neil Armstrong's first words when he went onto the moon? Do you remember what they were?
Speaker 2:my guess would be something like hello earth, but I don't know hello earth it was one small step for mankind oh of course, it was one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind, as he kind of stepped out onto the moon do you think he had that preloaded? He would have done in the old brain spill you.
Speaker 1:I mean, you would think you think you've got the world watching you yeah, and you've got.
Speaker 2:What am I going to say?
Speaker 1:that's going to be really prolific really cool, yeah, and he went with that can you imagine if he slipped, went, oh shit, yeah, one step, just buggered down the stairs, started floating, got his line caught up in his leg, yeah, just like face blood of the moon. And then you just see, like this, behind him, buzz Aldrin with this giant helmet just going, oh bugger.
Speaker 2:Or just pissing himself. That would have been even funnier, like holding his tummy, like yeah.
Speaker 1:Michael Collins laughing his ass off, still up in the command module yeah, should have been me egypt, egypt brilliant.
Speaker 2:I love how we both went into very british, very like irish terms. They're all american yeah, yeah what's the american equivalent? Of what dang it, dang it that's it, dang it, dang it.
Speaker 1:I don't know, doggone it, gosh, darn it, gosh, darn it. We went booger, booger oh, bloody hell yeah, brilliant, um, bloody Grint. Sorry then, after that between there wasn't a really after that kind of happened with the moon landings. It was like the Russians kind of the space race I was going to say.
Speaker 2:Did they end up going?
Speaker 1:I think the Russians have been because they created the space station as well.
Speaker 2:I was just about to say the national space station.
Speaker 1:I'm sure that's probably coming up, yeah, yeah yeah, national space station.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've got a funny story about that.
Speaker 1:When we get there, carry on, okay, sorry uh, but next up is the idea of reusable spacecraft which was kind of like from the 80s until 2000 and 2011. These um a review that you started using a reusable spacecraft that could launch like a rocket and land like a plane. You've seen those types of space shuttles launched like a rocket, yeah, and they.
Speaker 2:I mean so loads of missions have those types of space shuttles Launch like a rocket land like a plane.
Speaker 1:And they I mean so loads of missions have gone up in space. There's loads of satellites, the Hubble telescope and, of course, assembling the International Space Station as well, yes, very cool. Yeah, yep, remember the film Armageddon.
Speaker 2:Well, I haven't seen it in its entirety. You haven't seen Armageddon yeah seen it in its entirety you haven't seen Armageddon? Yeah, no, I haven't. Sorry, I predicted what you were going to say. Was I wrong? Just stay here you're free.
Speaker 1:There Is that Alan Rickman in it.
Speaker 2:No, oh no, maybe I'm getting confused.
Speaker 1:No, Alan Rickman's in it.
Speaker 2:While you're telling me, I'm feeling in Ben.
Speaker 1:Affleck's in it. Steve Buscemi, steve Buscemi, alan Rickman. He's a brilliant actor, steve Buscemi.
Speaker 2:I like Steve Buscemi. I like him in most Adam Sandler movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, god, yeah, yeah, yeah. But did you know that those shuttle's thermal tiles can withstand temperatures of up to 1650 degrees centigrade? Which is 3000 Fahrenheit for those that are in Fahrenheit, but they're so delicate, oh, that they could be damaged by someone's fingernail running across them. So they can withstand heat. That's the type of material that they are. Would you trust something like that? No, no.
Speaker 2:Where are these tiles located On the outside?
Speaker 1:On the outside, so when they come into the atmosphere and they burn, my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 2:My lord.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that doesn't seem like the best material.
Speaker 1:No, no, there was, there was a.
Speaker 2:Disaster.
Speaker 1:Yes, so the Challenger expedition.
Speaker 2:It's not something to laugh about. It really isn't.
Speaker 1:And I remember watching that.
Speaker 2:In 1986. In 1986. So I was 11 years old, I was 11 years old.
Speaker 1:It was a really big thing the Challenger mission, because they again like the Katy Perry thing it was just normal everyday people going up into space, and they didn't, and the whole thing exploded mid-air.
Speaker 2:As in before it even reached Before it even reached. They didn't even get to see the Earth.
Speaker 1:No, they just they all died. It was absolutely horrendous. I bet it was quick, though.
Speaker 2:Quick death Boom, boom, boom. How many deaths do you mean, though?
Speaker 1:I don't know actually. Oh, okay, If I'm correct, I think they were teachers. Yeah, they were just kind of normal, average everyday people.
Speaker 2:Not celebrities, then that could afford to go on there.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. Then, of course, in a 1908, 1998, the uh, I was the iss was launched the is the international space station yep, and it hosted astronauts for 20 countries.
Speaker 1:Now, when you think about it, this is what gets me. This is just me personally. Now is you had in the 60s you had the. On the 50s and 60s you had the space race. You had people competing against each other. Yes, okay, so America and Russia competing against each other to see who could get to the moon quicker, who could do this faster. So they're in direct competition. But when everyone works together, all these different countries working together, yeah. Look what can be achieved.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And do you know what I think their theme song is when they're up there? Go on, we go together like do you think that's what's happening exactly? They're all like I think it's like a daily thing, like it's a daily like pick me up thing. Yeah, exactly, like I don't know like 502 pm okay. Well, I don't know what time zone they use, but whatever time zone they use, they just have like a minute of it's like a musical up there in my brain.
Speaker 1:Yeah okay, oh, dear lord, so basically do you ever regret making this podcast? Not once not for, not for an absolute second I feel like I just come in with random.
Speaker 1:I mean that was just, that was pretty random. Yeah, yeah, that was pretty random. Uh, so I like to mix it up, yeah, yeah, I mean, so there's astronauts from 20 countries and they got there and they perform experiments in biology, physics, medicine, basically for the good, for the good of the, for good of the entire human race, or for the entire earth I mean that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Thanks, guys, because we're not doing nearly half the amount of effort that you guys are putting into the continuation of our species.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should send this in those days that they do get bored on the International Space Station, because those two Do you. They should maybe watch our podcast.
Speaker 2:Or listen to our podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:We're just a father and daughter. Yeah, in the UK they won't give us Something to do.
Speaker 1:I mean, look at those Poor two sods that were stuck up there For months, just recently, oh, what?
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what you should really watch.
Speaker 1:They were supposed to come back In June, weren't they? I?
Speaker 2:hope they gave them, like access to Netflix.
Speaker 1:I do.
Speaker 2:Because I'm like.
Speaker 1:To be fair, they could satellite and watch it off. That good point. They could hack it they could hack it. They do have the brains for hacking, yeah why are they being that close to that particular satellite for the last two months? I wonder what their download speed is like just binging, breaking bad up there.
Speaker 2:That's how you make meth.
Speaker 1:This is going to make our two months a lot smoother I mean not saying that they don't already know how to make meth, but I mean, I find this particular fact about the International Space Station just absolutely blows my mind. So it travels around the world at 17,500 miles per hour, isn't that how fast that is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I guess they don't experience that speed?
Speaker 1:No, because it'll be, relatively, because they will be in. It's like when you're in a plane, isn't it? The cabin pressure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the same principle.
Speaker 1:So you don't feel the speed. Same principle, but on a much, but that means that they orbit the Earth every 90 minutes.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, so every hour and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, actually, so we record our episodes in 45 minute chunks-ish right, yeah. So we're saying that hang on, I can't do the maths at two. Am I right in saying that two episodes is every revolution?
Speaker 1:yeah, two bdbd podcast episodes, yeah, running around 45 minutes yeah, and they're around the earth and they're going around the earth maddening yeah, yeah, that is actually insane. It also means that they see 16 sunsets and sunrises every single day, 16.
Speaker 2:That's very cool.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine what that does for your circadian rhythm?
Speaker 2:What circadian rhythm?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So this is a two-parter episode.
Speaker 1:So in the time that these two parts are done, so the time that they've seen one of our well, our two parts they've gone around the entire earth.
Speaker 1:So my question would be which is what I really would love to know and I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to look at this is it is do they set their time as to their country of origin and even so, if you think about amer and Russia, and even China and a few of the other countries where they've got different time zones or do they have their own set time zone within the International?
Speaker 2:Space Station. I would think, for ease of the world, they would stick to one time zone.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I imagine it will be ours, because we're zero.
Speaker 1:GMT.
Speaker 2:We're GMT, so we are, you know know, zero dot, zero, zero. So you've got. You've got like, uh, the us, which is goes to minus eight, to minus 12 ish yeah um hours.
Speaker 1:This is but does it, though? Or do the us have their own? Because when you look at other countries maps of the world, well, their country is in the center of the center of the map.
Speaker 2:There is ours, there is somewhere in the back of my brain that I feel like mitchell has told me this that somewhere in the world they go by new zealand time and there was a reason. I can't remember exactly what he was talking about now and he's gonna kill me, but he was talking about something. We were talking about time zones, we're talking about this and where? Is mitchell he is golfing oh is he.
Speaker 1:Oh, so should we call him.
Speaker 2:But no phone a friend? Yeah, um, but yeah, there is. There is something where they do stick to one time zone and there is like a reason behind that and it's something to do with the resource. So, for example, like if you were like, uh, female space astronauts, I'm just going to assume we'll need care packages every now and then. The reason I'm saying females because they probably need something like tampons, for example. So rather than having all of the tampons all come at once for their whole flight, they probably have like care packages right Every now, and then they'll probably have a supply station to the International Space Station. I'm assuming. I don't know if this is a fact.
Speaker 2:So if you're thinking about a country that's supplying that or has a means to supply that have to go by their time zone because they're awake at that time, yeah, yeah, yeah right so I think, I honestly think, in my heart of hearts, it would make more logical sense for them to go by one specific country's time zone, and that time zone being the one that they get the most supply from or their main control center, like they would have to be, because they would sleep, you know, and wait, yeah, and it would make sense to have some sort of routine there. That's, that's. That would be what I'd predict that they do yeah okay, one time zone, I don't think they would.
Speaker 2:But it would be cool when you're up there and you've got an english man up there and he's like oh, like, oh, I wonder what my probably don't have kids, actually, but I wonder what my wife's doing, or wonder what my mum they'll have a mum, or something like that.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, they might not have a wife and kids because they've devoted their life to science. That's what I was thinking. So they've gone. Oh, my mum will be making the roast dinner this sunday, right now, I don't know. Yeah, they would just look at it and they'd be like, oh, this is the time in the uk and this is what my mum might be doing or what my dad might be doing. Anyway, I'm sure they do that. Yeah, messages to home, don't they as well?
Speaker 1:as well. Oh yeah, yeah, beam messages, beam, yeah, beam stuff down. Next is when we're looking at kind of space exploration and that side of things. The next stage has been as we have just recently seen, like with the whole Katy Perry thing is the rise of private space exploration.
Speaker 2:Private space exploration yes. This scares me a little bit. I don't like this, because little bit I don't like this because because the reason I don't like this, yeah, is because it's all money driven absolutely right. So when nationalities come together and it's a more uh, uh, would you say, publicly funded, because it's funded by the people of the earth through taxes yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I don't know like in a long roundabout way, I mean from from joe blogs to nasa yeah I mean our, our, probably our income maybe 0.0000.
Speaker 1:Our money won't go to nasa. No, I'm just yeah I don't even think the uk has got space programmers.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say have we even been to space?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, we haven't.
Speaker 2:We have got british astronauts well, I'm sure we have British astronauts.
Speaker 1:We have got shuttles and things like that.
Speaker 2:We don't have a Coney Island do we no Cape Canaveral, you mean. Why did I just say Coney Island?
Speaker 1:That's in New York.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, sorry, Cape Canaveral.
Speaker 1:Cape Canaveral Where's that?
Speaker 2:place near Florida.
Speaker 1:That's Sorry, you are completely correcting me.
Speaker 2:We do have the Leicester Space Museum, though.
Speaker 1:We do indeed.
Speaker 2:And the Science Museum in London but also, as far as I'm aware, no exploration from there. But where was I going with this Tangents?
Speaker 1:You were saying about the cost of it. Yeah, I didn't want to.
Speaker 2:So private space exploration you have to pay to get up there, right? Yes, you do. What good has come from that? We had a we had a submarine that went into the sea. Oh, everyone died, yeah.
Speaker 1:And now we've got spacex going up there yeah, well, space, there's two in it because, again, you could. There's this whole thing about this, this private space race at the moment. So you got elon musk on one side has he actually been to? Space. Yeah, yeah, he has, I think he has. So you've got spacex on one side and then you've got the blue origin, which is jeff bezos, so you've got kind of like tesla bezos's wife was in the shuttle right yeah, she was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't think is he trying to knock her off no, I I may be mistaken and I haven't looked into his wife, but I do think she is scientifically minded yeah, I think she's quite intelligent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not saying she's not intelligent. I know I didn't mean it like that. I think she's she is that way inclined. That is her area of expertise, yeah yeah it just happens to be the wife of the most well, the richest man in the world, yeah, um yeah, sorry, carry on, so he I mean so you've got elon musk and his spacex stuff, and then you've got jeff bezos with the blue origin, and they had a bit of a race between them two as well, didn't they?
Speaker 2:I feel like they've joined forces, have they not? I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think that they're friends, friendly, they're friendly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:They see each other in a board meeting, they're like hey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also they're like ah, rivalry. But again, when you actually think about it.
Speaker 2:It's like a billionaire's dick wagging contest, isn't it? Yes, it's a huge, big billionaire's dick wagging, that's all it is yeah, do you mean like by dick wagging? Do you mean like oh, my dick's bigger than yours? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, dick measuring exercise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, um, but yeah, but elon musk, he I think his rocket was called Falcon 9 when he sent that one up. Now he actually again this is where I just get absolutely astounded about some people in the world. So Elon Musk and he actually has admitted this when he built that rocket he told them to make it more pointy, genuinely said that because he wanted not for any design purposes, just because he liked the rock, the shape of the rocket in the film the dictator, genuinely look it up.
Speaker 2:And he told his design crew to make the tip of the rocket more pointy surely you just want it to surely you just want it to be the safest it can be right, yeah exactly see, that's what worries me that's exactly what he was like no, it must be in black paint. And they're like look, black paint is heavier than other paint because of the pigmentation. But I don't know. That's true, I'm just making a absolute springboard like motion. And he's like nah, I want it black. And they're like nah, like dude like yeah, yeah safety is.
Speaker 2:You know, we don't make it in black. It's just not think well, make it in black, and then they cut corners and then people die exactly, yeah, exactly this is what worries me about private, private space exploration and I. It's not that he doesn't have enough money to do it. I think when it is your own money, you're less likely to cut corners. But maybe I'm talking out my arse. Maybe a government is more likely to cut corners because they've got less money. It's kind of like ooh.
Speaker 1:You say that you say that. So me in my job that I do I can tell you that corners do not get cut.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, that's good to know. Because, trust me because I do work, essentially. I do work for the government in around. I work in the public sector. So yes, public sector. We're publicly, so we're publicly you're a civil servant no, not what's it called when you're a public sector worker.
Speaker 1:So but when? When people say about why things in my industry cost more money to make or cost more money than the one it does in the private industry, because we have so many more standards and we have to abide by so many more things yeah to make sure that things are safe, because if we do something wrong and something goes wrong in my line of work, yeah, you're buggered, yeah, yeah we're talking prison sentences.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, that's the level of whereas you wouldn't get that in the private sector because it's not regulated right and also they can throw money at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we, we haven't got that no so we have to make sure that everything that we do is above board and everything is correct, so yeah, so that's why those corners don't get cut. And could you say that? So when I hear things like elon musk saying he wants the rocket to be more pointy, it's like are you serious, mate?
Speaker 2:yeah, just maybe just focus on making it safe. Do you know what I want to see? If I was a billionaire, I'd be like can you just make this rocket the safest rocket this is?
Speaker 1:it could be yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't want to cut I've got all this money you can use.
Speaker 2:I want this to be the safest thing.
Speaker 1:I mean it's like going back to this thing about the space shuttle with these panels saying that can be cut by a fingernail. Is there any way we can not have that happen? Can?
Speaker 2:we really look at the design of this. Wouldn't you be cooler as a billionaire if you actually invented something that could help space exploration in the future? Yeah, like if elon musk actually patented, like, patented, like, uh, yeah, like like the, like the tiles, right, yeah, isn't that a cooler legacy then? Oh, we made it to space first as the first private this is it. Yeah, yeah, yeah use your money wiser yeah, exactly, wiser, wiser, wiser uh gotta be cool, gotta be wiser.
Speaker 2:I I just I'm a little conscious of the time yeah, I know I'm gonna finish off well, I feel like the space center is halfway around the earth yeah, so we need to stop here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh no, we'll just a couple more bits and then we'll stop when we'll go on to part two. So Jeff Bezos, he's really focusing on this suborbital space tourism, which is what we've seen.
Speaker 2:We've now yeah.
Speaker 1:But also there was another. I just realised there was another player in there and he's English. Ah, richard Branson, richard Branson. Richard Branson, branson, richard Branson, yeah so he kind of oh, I forgot about him. Yeah, he he's not really. He didn't go as far as space, but he was like zero gravity experiences yeah which is the outer atmosphere, which is essentially what Katy Perry did yes, yeah, I would like to experience that I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is you kind of can experience zero gravity on Earth. You don't need to go up there.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I was just about to say that I'd like to experience it without leaving this earthly plane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly yes.
Speaker 2:That would be very fun. Indeed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Indeed, so yeah. So that's kind of the yeah. Should we end it on?
Speaker 2:that note. I feel like we should end it on that note, and then we will be next time with oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I can't.
Speaker 2:She sells seashells on the seashore. We will be back next time for part two of space exploration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what we're going to do in the next part is we're going to do a little bit of fun facts about the solar system galaxy the universe.
Speaker 1:Daisy's fun facts about the solar system, galaxy, the universe fun facts, and also a little bit more about the future of space travel. And I'm going to talk a little bit about life, because life life, you know is there. Is there life on other planets? Because I will just say this is my parting gambit is that I think to think that we are the only planet in the entire universe that can sustain life is very unlikely.
Speaker 2:Statistically improbable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it is incredibly unlikely.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I do believe there is life out there somewhere.
Speaker 2:Fantastic. Well, I've got nothing to add to that, so I think the only thing left to say is cue the outro. Thanks for joining us on Bonus Dad, bonus Daughter. Don't forget to follow us on all our socials and share the podcast with someone who'd love it. We are available on all streaming platforms. See you next time. Bye-bye, outro Music.