26. Why God is Urgently Calling Christian Physicians to Radical Obedience

Radical Obedience: A Path to Miraculous Encounters

In this episode of Heal the Healers, I'm discussing why radical obedience is essential for physicians in this season. I'll share personal stories from my recent trips and how following God's gentle nudges led to profound experiences and blessings. If you're struggling to discern what God wants you to do, this episode is for you. We'll explore how to hear the Lord's voice, understand the importance of obedience, and apply it in your daily lives as medical professionals. Stay tuned for an inspiring journey into faith and medicine.

00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview

00:16 The Importance of Radical Obedience

01:41 Personal Experiences and Lessons Learned

05:11 The Boston Trip: A Divine Assignment

16:49 The Power of Obedience and Spiritual Growth

32:19 Encouragement and Upcoming Events

38:52 Conclusion and Call to Action

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Restream recording Mar 19, 2025 • 07:50:46 PM: 0:00

Yeah. Hello there and welcome to another episode of Heal the Healers. I am your host, Inga Hoffman, and I'm really excited to speak to you today. And today we're gonna talk about something that is really close to my heart. I wanna talk a little bit about why radical obedience in this season is. Really important right now for us as physicians. I'm gonna share some personal experiences, recent travel and endeavors, what I learned and what the Lord choke me on those trips and what I just learned from being obedient myself. So if you are in a season where you're like, Lord, what do you have me do? I'm not quite sure. Stay tuned. I think. This episode is gonna help you and we're really gonna dive in why obedience is important and how you can hear the voice of the Lord to be in, be obedient in your life. So stay tuned for after the music and we will be right back. Welcome to the Heal the Healers podcast, where we explore the intersection of faith and medicine. Discover your God-given potential and experience Christ's healing in the midst of medical burnout. I'm your host, Ingar Hoffman, a pediatric key mock doc, physician, coach, and follow of Jesus. Together we will navigate the challenges of medicine, integrate faith into our personal and professional lives. Experience, spiritual renewal and find restoration in Christ. Welcome to the Heal the Healers, where Christ heals one physician and one patient at a time. Well, hello there and welcome back to Heal the Healers. I'm your host Inga Hoffman, and it's been a while since we talked. I have been quite on a number of. Trips I think I went on three trips within six or seven weeks. And between those trips I got several viral upper respiratory infections. So I've been kind of in a t of activities, but nevertheless, I am so excited to be back. I'm excited to be here and share. Particularly what I've learned and what I'm hearing the Lord say, just over this first quarter of the year, can you believe the first quarter's almost over. It is crazy. Before we get into it just reminding you to wherever you are watching or listening to this, whether it's on podcast or on YouTube, just to follow the show. And subscribe to it. That will help a lot and it really makes my day and it blesses me and it blesses others. Also, if you really find this show helpful, please refer it and recommend it to others, but also leave us a review either on your favorite podcast platform or on YouTube because it'll help others to see the show. And it really blesses this ministry, which is beyond just. Educating and equipping. I have a prayer ministry for Christian physicians and doing all sorts of things behind the scene, and it helps a lot. So thank you for subscribing and sharing and for just tuning in as a faithful listener. So let's get started though. With today's episode, I want to share a little bit about and entitled This is Why God Is. Urgently calling Christian physicians to radical obedience in the season. And I think this is a really important topic, something that probably isn't easy to listen to. When there is a call for urgency as well of obedience. It's not a fluffy word or something. We could just say, ah, how nice and fluffy and relaxing. But it is something that I have. Sensed actually for quite some time, and perhaps even voiced on this podcast, but I wanna come back to it because of a personal experience for me just over the last few months where I have learned how critical important obedience is to the timing and instructions of the Lord, and also how that obedience then blesses others. It's not just for ourselves. But it is for others, and he heard probably many times that. Just a partial obedience or a delayed obedience is basically a disobedience altogether. Now I hope I didn't scare you away with the words of obedience and disobedience, but let me provide some context for you why I think this is important and why I wanna talk about this. And lemme just give you a personal example of recently a. Experience that I had in, that I had to walk through in obedience. And I hope that this practical example will also enlighten you of, okay, how am I gonna hear the voice of the Lord in this? How do I know the Holy Spirit is nudging me about, or are these just my ideas in my head? So many of you might know I recently. He came back from a trip to Boston. Boston is where I did my fellowship. In P Monk. I trained there at Boston Children's in the Dana-Farber. I spent 11 years of my professional career on those grounds. And let me just say it was a blessing and a challenge all at the same time. I've left about eight years ago and I'm just providing that context so that you could see. The peculiar assignment that I felt in the nudge from the Lord. So I've now been living in Madison, Wisconsin for the last eight years and. In about May of 2024, so about nine month ago, I felt this interesting nudge in my quiet time. It just sort of came out of nowhere that I had to go back to Boston for a visit, not, not for a job to move there. For a visit of some sort, and I found it very interesting and I was like, well, that's curious. Why would that be? Why should I go back to Boston? There was no particular reason for me to go. I mean, sure would it be fun to go and it's a great city and I have lots of dear friends and colleagues and wonderful mentors that I love to see and see. Just say hi. But typically, you know, when you're a busy mom and I have a lot of different things that I juggle with, with just the ministry, with my coaching business homeschooling and family that I just don't go on. Just for fun trips, I'm usually quite intentional with my time to decide what I will do because every time I go somewhere, you know, it's time away from the family and it puts extra pressure on my husband who I also want to support. So, I was like, oh, this is interesting. Why go there? But I didn't really feel a particular reason, so therefore I was like, well that's probably just a crazy idea. But it kept on coming back to me. I. Over time and there was this quite gentle nudge to just sense there is something I have to do there. There were no specifics. It was just this poll, this like, you really should be going there. And I'm like, okay, God, but why? What am I supposed to do there? And so I kind of, not ignored it, but I sort of put it on the shelf and perhaps thought, okay, let me pause and verify if it's real. It will kind of come back to me and honestly also this whole summer and then into the fall, I was very heavily. Focused and invested in preparing for the Heal the Healers retreat that I hosted in November. Thank you for those who attended. And we shall do this again. God willing. There will be more updates about that, but, so it wasn't a season for me to shift my focus away from the retreat to going somewhere, and I wasn't sure why. So it was sitting in the back. On the back burner for a while, and this thought of I have to go to Boston for something that I don't even know what wasn't very prominent in my mind, but as soon as the retreat was over, let me turn off my watch, yet always listening in when I'm on coaching calls or recording. So as soon as I was done with the retreat, this idea very quickly popped in my head again. Typically during quiet time, my quiet time is usually spent on, I read the word, I pray, I journal, I process, I hear what is the Lord saying? I write it down. I'm entering in a conversation often through journaling, and I will talk about that process in another podcast episode because I think it'll be really helpful for you to train your ear to listen to the Lord. But in that process of journaling and conversation in quiet time with the Lord, this, kind of nudge became a louder and louder voice until like I could not ignore it anymore. But then also over the course of the winter, that voice became not just louder, it. Bubbled up a sense of urgency that the timing is getting closer and this is really becoming critical. Typically, my personal self would be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna put that on the shelf. Like I do that with my family vacations and even visiting my family in Europe, right? In Germany, I tend to put things off. So that would be my natural default. And this one was really having that. Urgency that pull, and over the course of time and my quiet time, it became also more specific. Why am I actually going there? The first thing I heard and and I sort of sensed in conversation with one of my mentors as well, this is probably a prayer appointment, like an assignment for intercession, and that is something that is very close to my heart, interceding and praying for the medical community. So I was like. I think this is right. I think I'm ought to get the boots on the ground and pray there. So I was like, okay, that is a little bit more directive. And versus like, who am I gonna meet? But then over the course of time in my quiet time, it also became clear. Now you have to meet these specific people. A couple that I have not seen in pretty much on. Pretty much a decade almost since I left Boston and we really hadn't had any close conversations. I briefly connected with them for my retreat to mention it because they're also in the medical community, but that was about it. I felt this urgency pressing in. You need to get in touch with those people. You need to get in touch with that physician and their ministry and the wonderful things they are doing. And so I was like, wow, this is quite specific because I haven't talked to these people in years, like nearly a decade, having a real detailed conversation other than. Reaching out one time for the retreat and having sort of a quick catch up, but it was sort of not a very in depth conversation. So it was quite unusual that these people popped in my hat, that persistently. So I knew two things. I need to go pray and I need to meet these people. And then I went on my first trip in January, rolled around. I went on my first trip to a conference. Just a. A Christian conference where I just usually like to go sometimes to these things, at least a couple times a year to step back from my usual environment, be alone even though I'm amongst hundreds, maybe a thousand people, and to just be on my own to really worship the Lord, sit in sermons, sit and worship immerse myself in a environment. With other believers that are seeking the Lord. And usually these events have been quite profound and moving for me in many ways. Often the Lord meets me there. It's another level of acceleration in that environment that opens up a whole nother level of. Spiritual growth. Usually it's really a jumpstart cable. Not to get me back to baseline, but to get me to the next level. And this has been very much true over the last two years. So this is just a side note, but I highly recommend for you seek out opportunities like we did the Heal the Healers Retreat. Like I have a community for Christian physicians to be immersed in the word and company with other believers to sharpen yourself. And they amongst others to be strong in your faith. There's lots I can say about that, but that's just my little pluck. Get yourself in a community. It's not the healer healers community. Get somewhere else beyond just your church. Now, the church is important, but I think there's extra things needed if you really want to grow and push yourself. And nevertheless, getting back on track with my testimony here, the story. So I went to this conference and the Lord clearly spoke to me almost every day in almost every session or worship session or where we just. Praying. And I tend to write these things down very quickly and became very specific. You must go now. There was an urgency. It must happen right after this trip in the first couple weeks of February and earlier I had asked, Lord, when do you want me to go? And he said, I will tell you, I literally wrote that in my journal, and I wouldn't know this or remember this if I hadn't journaled on that. So I was like, okay, let me look at flights. When are they the cheapest? I was listening in the natural way when a good time would be to go As, and the Lord said, no. I will tell you when to go. And that is hard for a physician like us when you get your ducks in the row and when you have to check all the boxes and want to plan everything. This is not my natural default setting to be in limbo yet. Know that I need to be open. Beaten on a, on a flip of a coin, and this is exactly how this situation went. So I came back from that trip. I told my husband, I need to go. The Lord is sending me. He's like, God bless you. If he's telling you, you go, I love my husband. He's so supportive in those. Things sometimes more supportive of me than I'm supportive of myself, and I'm thankful for that. But I came back from this trip. I booked my tickets and very quickly thereafter, but it was like between two weekends. So I reached out to my friends and I said, I'm coming to Boston. These other two weekends. I'm thinking about, are you guys around? I must talk to you. At that time, I had a word from the Lord that I was to deliver. To those people and. God willing. And so it, it was in his wonderful plans that the first weekend that I was having a tendency, almost preferred, was not working out. She's like, my husband's not at home, and I really needed them both there so that I then went on that other weekend and they said, but we have a retreat. And we are going to New Hampshire and have a retreat up there. Now, I don't know about you. I am not the retreat kind of girl sitting in cabins and, you know back to student life, that's usually not my. My preferred self, especially after I was getting, the week before I was about to travel, I was in bed for three, four days. I couldn't get up. I was pretty sick with flu or flu-like illness. I was not feeling like a cabin. I was feeling like cozy hotel, leave me alone. I need to get over this illness. So have it. I went on this retreat, so the Lord had me there in a very unique timing and what I wanna say about this, it was a matter of obedience for me to follow his foot self. And what does God say in his word, right? I'm gonna give you a few verses, and for Samuel, the word says, his first Samuel 1522, if you're listening on audio only. And Samuel said, has the Lord has great delight and burned offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord. Behold to obey is better than sacrifice and to listen than. Fed of Rams. So this is obviously a very unique situation, but we often use this verse, and I do think it is very important. We can give a lot of sacrifices and there were sacrifices in the trip, but obedience is very important to the Lord. Over the course of this time, I had to learn to be obedient from a little nudge to a strong pull to this urgency that I felt like I cannot help it. I must go. The Lord will make a way to pay for the ticket in the hotel. And I have to say, once I stepped into obedience, even though I did not know all the steps, what would happen during that trip? Some. Wonderful, miraculous things happened. I found a flight with nearly no miles and$11 to get there. And right now living on ministry, that was a big deal for me. So because I have to bootstrap sort of everything and really trust. The Lord for provision for those things. So that was a big win. I was able to stay with a wonderful dear professor that I very much admire for my time in pathology who used to have an Airbnb and he let me stay in his house. So that was wonderful. And then did I know that I needed that flexibility because. We were hit in a snow storm at the retreat, so I suddenly needed an extra stay in Boston versus in New Hampshire. Long story, but there was a lot of twist and turns in a hotel would have just not been working out very well. I might have just. Found myself without a bed fortnight. And so this was amazing to have a place, a a launch pad in Boston, right in the medical community to walk to campus and then also have flexibility to go to a retreat an hour away. So I'm so grateful to the Lord. But as I was going to Boston, number one, it was an incredible, unique timing. No matter what you think about what's happening in the current climate and in medicine, everything is unveiling. And my flight literally hit the ground. I. As some major decisions were made that some people are happy about, some people are really angry about, no matter where you fall in the camp of who is now director of health and Human Services. The truth is that it, there's an upheaval in the medical community and I was landing that day on basically in one of the major hubs in the country for medical. Innovation and medical training grounds at Harvard Medical School. That was no coincidence being there at the same time that my friends were hosting a retreat. And every step of the way I was at this place. As I was in Boston, the Lord showed up every turn, every direction, and I was there for a number of days and I did not know what I will be doing each day. I knew when I landed. I'm gonna go straight to the medical school and I hit. The boots on the ground and are prayed and interceded on the grounds of the medical school. And that was a very profound experience because you could literally sense the spiritual atmosphere on the strongholds and principalities sitting over that place. And so praying against that spiritual atmosphere, I'm praying the Lord's righteousness, injustice over the system yet. Praying, love and care and new innovation in a godly way into this environment was really quite wonderful to bless that ground and to bless it and stepping away from competition and, and a striving environment to back to a collaborative environment. If you have spent any time in Harvard, you know that that would be a big deal because let me tell you, I've been there for 11 years and I experienced the up and downs of that kind of environment that can be very intense for people. So it was amazing to be on the ground and pray. And, and I really had no intention to meet anybody. I didn't set up a bunch of meetings with old friends. I, I felt like I needed to be flexible, and that was another step of obedience because the easy part would, I've been, Hey friends, do you wanna hang out for coffee? Most of my friends had no idea that I would be there. I ran into my old primary care physician and she's like. And I'm like, yeah, doing here, I'm So, it was bumping into people by surprise rather than by, naturally set appointments on my calendar. I was able to meet my old boss and really just listen to see and to tune in of what is happening in the environment. What are people struggling with to have natural entail and then pray over those things in the spirit. And then I went to the retreat. Now the retreat was a wonderful experience to be able to go to a retreat with other, questions in the medical and scientific field in the Boston area. And it turns out that it was no coincidence I was there. Their keynote speaker had canceled. So my friend asked me last minute, can you step in and speak to us? And they were talking about things like suffering and lament. And it was something that I was able to speak into from a place of. Healing and restoration. Not being in the same struggle as they were in, and it was such a blessing. To minister to those people. It was really the highlight of my trip and to share the word where what I felt the Lord was speaking over their life after having seen them in nearly a decade. I was quite mind boggling and it blessed me so much, like as I was preparing even for my talk at that retreat for the keynote sort of last minute, right? I actually looked back through my journal. How did I get here and what has the Lord been saying to me? Since last May, and this is really where I traced back the steps of obedience. It was little steps that became more significant and it really left me, I was weeping because I was so moved. By how gracious the Lord is giving me a heads up nine months earlier, a gentle nudge to prepare me for this particular assignment that I couldn't have done, I think without leaning into his gentle nudge and, calling and having those steps of obedience and that was really powerful. It also taught me. To listen to the voice of the Lord know exactly when he was speaking and having a physical, tangible record in form of my daily journal to look back to, to say, oh, it was this date, or on this day he spoke this, or On this day this happened, and he spoke more specifics, and that was quite powerful because. I didn't remember all those details as clearly in my head, and it was an ongoing confirmation. In hindsight, yes, I heard the Lord correctly and he let me here between May and now February. He put all this together and he already knew May the year before what was needed on that trip. So obedience. Is a critical part in our faith journey. And as we are obedient, he is opening up doors. He's gonna show and teach you things that you cannot even imagine. So obedience is a big part of our spiritual discipline and of us. Transforming more in the image like him. One Peter one 14 to 16 says, as obedient children do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but he but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy. All your conduct since it is written. You shall be holy for I am holy. Now, the, the Lord is calling us to be obedient, to not be ignorant, to not go after our own desires, but our obedient to be obedient and calling us into holiness. And another scripture in James four says I really like this James four, seven, submit yourself therefore to God, resist the devil and he will flee from new. Now, of course, we can think about this in the context of sin and temptation, and he might say, how does this apply to this example I gave you? But you know what? It would've been very easy for me to resist the nudge of the Lord to go to Boston. It was inconvenient. It was a little uncertain. It was between two trips. I took a trip to Florida and went to Boston, and then I went to Glasgow. I just came back from that. Within six weeks. That means that was a lot of time away from family. That was a financial strain that was very inconvenient. I was sick every time in between, it would have been very easy to give into my fleshly desires or the devil's not, you know, maybe do it later, but know to be obedient unto the Lord is very important. And so I wanna encourage you to be obedient when the Lord is notching you with a special assignment or mission that he wants you to go on. It could be something like this. It could be just being obedient to pray for your patience. Share the word share the gospel with your coworkers. Or just turn off your damn phone and get off social media. I'm not always obedient with that. That is something I have to learn to crucify my flesh. So obedience is very important and as I learned on this trip, again, being obedient opened the door for me to see God working in miraculous VOUSs ways from the moment I booked my trip to when I landed to when I got back home every day. There were so many unexpected twists and turns. God showed up over and over and over again whether it was like getting there in the first place, you know, having a flight and hotel or stay lodging essentially provided for being able to pray of the medical grounds. Being able to meet my old boss on very short notice, that man has a very busy calendar and I was able to go to an a conference that I used to. Sit in and honestly as a trainee felt incredibly intimidated even as a junior faculty. But sitting there now was very interesting experience. Being able to go to the retreat and suddenly be available to speak to those people and minister what somebody had canceled. And then we had a snow storm and I. Had to leave early, so we weren't staying the entire weekend, but God willing, and so he probably had his and his plans that I was back in Boston for Sunday's church service, and I planned to go to another church to just explore in the community. And that's a long story. Basically, I got lost. I couldn't even find the, the service. I couldn't even find their church. I wandered around in, in the snow and storm and I had quite a few spiritual lessons. That's another story for another time doing that. But then I was like, no, I'm gonna go to my old church. And I showed up at my old church, I got an Uber there and I got to bless my pastor and speak into their lives. And I was just so beautiful to sit in that old atmosphere and give, give, give thanks to the Lord for having me. In that environment for a number of years getting a, a really nurturing, solid footing. I was so grateful that wouldn't have happened if the snowstorm wouldn't have hit, and I didn't have that interaction with my old pastor, which really blessed I think, both of us very much. And then and then had a little bit time on Monday still to, to meet with some people. But what I wanna say. God shows up when you are obedient. You won't know all the 20 steps. In that first steps of obedience, you will know a step or two and that is it. And as you follow the steps of obedience, the road becomes more clear. So I encourage you, you must obey God rather than man. Peter says that in Acts 5 29. But Peter in the apostle answers, we must obey God rather than men. That speaks, of course, in context to spreading the gospel and sharing the gospel and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Yet it is important for us to remember we must obey God and if we don't learn to obey the Lord in these little things in our practical daily lives, how will we ever. Obey him in significant parts. When there is prosecution, when there is opposition, when people will not like what you have to say. So hear me. You must learn how to obey the Lord in your daily life. And whether it's something like I just cheered, or it could be even more, more basic. Put that phone down right now and spend time with me. Go get you in your quiet place right now. Whatever it might be. Go speak to that person in the grocery line, whatever it might be. Go pray to that sister in your church with that sister in your church. Whatever it is you need to learn. You and I need to learn to be radically obedient in the season, and I'm gonna share in the next episode. Right. I think this is extremely important in the epoch of time we live in and why this is in extremely important for you as physician right now to learn how to hear the voice of God, how to know the Holy Spirit as a friend and how to listen to him. I leave here with this verse, Luke 1128, but he said blessed rather. Are those who hear the word of God and keep it. You are blessed when you hear the word of God, whether it's his written logos word, whether it's his rainbow word, whether it's the Holy Spirit inside of you. Hear it and keep it. Now I hope this episode bless you today. I strongly encourage you, number one. Stay tuned for the next episode. I will record it either later today. When a couple of days. I really feel the urgency to speak on that. Carrying on this topic of obedience, right? As important for medicine, we need to get our ducks in the bell. We need to get in on the post and we need to get serious. I also realized that many people, including myself, I used to struggle a lot with consistent quiet time. I recorded the earliest episodes on this episode, four or five, probably has some episode on how to make time for God, how to consistently pray, how to read your Bible. But I felt the urgency. To really train and equip you. You can of course do that insight my mentorship program that I have, and I will put the QR code here so you can go and get on the wait list for the mentorship program. Let me see. It's over here. Okay, let me flip the screen here and see how this works. Okay. This will, we'll just have to do so you can get, scan this QR code and you can join my mentorship program where we are. We will I will equip you, we will do bible teaching. There's community, there's prayer. We right now talking about how to find your assignment, meaning what does God have you specifically do on this planet? Why has he put you on this earth in this season? Specific timing? Very, very, very important that we all learn this and lean into this. So scan the QR code, you can join. And, this way you actually get on my mailing list. And the other announcement I want to make is because I see the struggles literally everywhere for people having a hard time physician, having a hard time to get. Into quiet time to have a consistent habit of spending time with the Lord in Bible study prayer and hearing his voice and knowing what's his voice and what isn't, and learning the process, how to do this, I decided just the last couple days this really kind of dropped in my heart. So praise God to organize a challenge. It will be likely a three day challenge, probably over the weekend. So people are flexible to basically give you a, a three day challenge workshop style. Kind of give you some teaching and some practical tips, how you can get in a habit of really leaning into quiet time with God. I can only tell you this, if you don't spend time with God in his word and prayer, you will not know him. And he is desiring to spend time with us and have relationship with us. But it's not just for your personal benefit, although that is amazing when you go and ride with God and it's. It's an adventure and it can be scary, but there's nothing better. And, and there's never a dull moment, but you cannot afford, and I'm very serious. You cannot afford to do this, likely. We got to get serious and get in God's face. And spent time with him. This is a time where above all, you need to learn how to listen to God's voice and know what is his in a time of such great deception. And I'm pressing in on, onto you with all seriousness to not take this lightly. I mean when I started this, this was very clear, but this is something that becomes louder and more urgent. And I'm just saying this in all laugh. And that's why I'm putting this out there. This will be a free three day event. I'm gonna probably roll this out in a couple weeks. I'm recording this March 19th, so whenever this will be live we will probably do this within the next two weeks. By the end of March end of March, first week of April, something like this. I want you to be there. I want you to really make an effort to say, I am investing time. For a time with God, you cannot afford not to do it. If you really wanna grow in your faith, and this is a season where we have to hold on really, really tight, it's choppy waters and it's gonna only get crazier. So you better know your Lord. Your savior gets strong in the word, so you're not tossed around with every chaos of the wind. Okay, now I'm getting all excited. I will talk about this more. But what I want you to do, scan this QR code. Yes, you can join the mentorship program where I, I mentor you on a weekly basis. But if you are like, I want a starting place, I need to get strong in the word, I need to get just a habit of quiet time, then please join this challenge. I don't have a wait list up for that or a sign up page because it literally just dropped in my spirit two days ago. I, we'll get that ready over the next few days. In the meantime, scan this code so that you are on my email list so I can email you with that information. So no time to waste. Do that now and I will speak to you next. Few days next week. We'll see. I never try to be too prescriptive about how often I come on here because it has been kind of an up and down, not my best consistency for sure. So with that, I wanna say God bless you all and I will see you next few days or next week. My prayer is that you were encouraged, strengthened, and perhaps even convicted with this episode today. If this podcast has blessed you, would you help share it with your friends and colleagues and even share it on social media? Also, leave us a review on the podcast platform where you are listening to this content. It would help us a lot. Together we can share the good news of Jesus and transform medicine one physician. And one patient at the time. Have a great day. God bless.