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Vengeance Unleashed: Ellie's Path in The Last of Us Season 2
The slow-burning intensity of The Last of Us Season 2 has captivated audiences, proving that great storytelling can evolve even when beloved characters exit the stage. Like a masterful smoker gradually cooking meat to perfection, this season ignites with explosive moments before settling into a deliberate pace that's cooking something special.
We're witnessing Ellie's transformation from Joel's protected daughter to a vengeful hunter following his brutal death at Abby's hands. The fractured father-daughter relationship that opens the season—with Joel haunted by his Season 1 lie and Ellie declaring "I don't need your protection"—provides emotional resonance even after Joel's shocking departure in Episode 2.
But Season 2 isn't just about revenge. The evolving romance between Ellie and Dina adds depth and vulnerability, especially as Dina discovers both Ellie's immunity and her own pregnancy. Their relationship beautifully parallels Joel and Ellie's dynamic, as Ellie now finds herself becoming protective of someone she loves. Meanwhile, the infected display unsettling signs of intelligence, and Jeffrey Wright's introduction as the sadistic WLF leader Isaac promises to fill the antagonistic void with his quiet yet menacing presence.
What makes this season particularly thought-provoking is its exploration of "bad guy hypocrisy" and the cyclical nature of revenge. Abby never considered that killing Joel might put her in the crosshairs of someone equally determined to balance the scales. As Ellie hunts Abby's friends one by one, we're left wondering if perpetrators ever consider the inevitable retribution their actions might spark.
The question hanging over Season 2 has been definitively answered—yes, The Last of Us can thrive without Pedro Pascal. By embracing its ensemble cast, developing complex relationships, and staying true to its source material, the show continues to deliver one of 2025's most compelling narratives. Subscribe now to join our weekly discussions as we analyze each new episode and speculate on where this journey of revenge, love, and survival will lead.
no-transcript. I am your host, as always, lloyd Cicero, the Great Lloyd Paramount of the Southeast. Are we enjoying Season 2 of Last of Us? I am. I'm all in for season two of Last of Us. It's really good, and what I really like about season two of Last of Us is doing something that a lot of shows don't do. Most shows do one of two things. They give us good stuff every episode. I'm talking every episode is good and it gives us something to come back to every week. They give us something. There's always plenty of meat on the bone. Every episode. It has us coming back for more shows like from 9-1-1, those early seasons of the Walking Dead, power you know what I'm saying and then you have those shows that are slow burn.
Speaker 1:they just build the story and it gradually turns into this thing, this ultimate moment at the end or ultimate moments throughout the show, like season two, a house of the dragon, vampire diaries, gray's anatomy, or breaking Grey's Anatomy, or Breaking Bad, all slow burn style shows. But what Last of Us Season 2 is doing? It reminds me of building a fire in a smoker. I'm from the South and my stepdaddy used to smoke meat all the time and he would put that wood on one end of the smoker and he would put a little lighter fluid in there and that flame would go whoosh, big flames, but then that heat. The flames would die down, but the heat didn't go anywhere and it would just slow cook that meat. And that's what I feel like season two is doing. The season starts big flames, big flames, but then it slows down and now it's cooking. It's just cooking.
Speaker 1:They meet slow, gradual, and so when the season starts, we got Ellie and Joel, whose relationship is on the rocks in a major way. This father daughter is not clicking anymore and I think part of the reason they're not clicking is pretty obvious. Joel is pretty obvious. Joel's lie, the lie that he told Ellie at the end of season one, is eating at him. It's really eating at him and you can tell that in his therapy session with Kevin McAllister's mom that you know he said I saved her, you know, and not really ready to admit the other part, what he did to save her. He doesn't want to admit that part.
Speaker 1:And then Ellie wants to be her own person. You know she wants to be independent, she wants to do her own thing, while Joel still wants to try to protect her but he fails to understand that she's not the kid she was in season one. Five years have gone by, she's all. She's, for all intents and purposes, an adult. In a perfect world without infected and zombies running around, she'd be an adult, a college student maybe, because she's 19 years old. So she wants to do her own thing. She doesn't want Joel's protection and we see that in episode one when her and Dina have that kiss and that guy uses a derogatory term toward them, joel runs up punches, the guy pushes him on the floor and Dina goes and Ellie goes off on Joel, I don't need you to protect me. Those are her words. She doesn't want his protection and Joel is trying to hold on to that relationship because he lost his daughter back in season one. So Ellie in essence has filled that void that his daughter lost, that he lost when his daughter died. And also we have Ellie and Dina's relationship. Now it's clear that these two have a thing for each other early on. And Ellie Ellie is all in. You know she's kind of sarcastic and does her thing, but you can tell she really wants Dina and if you're really paying attention you can see Dina wants her as well, but Dina's not ready. Dina's not ready to go all in with Ellie, despite the fact they have this real connection and attraction to each other. Also, in episode one Ellie has an encounter with an infected and disinfected, appears to show signs of intelligence. And then toward the end of that episode we got Abby and her friends and we all know Abby. She's out to get Joel because Joel killed her father back in season one.
Speaker 1:And I just want to hit on what I like to call bad guy hypocrisy. I think it's interesting when you have a show or a moment or you have the villain, and this person, this guy, will do incredibly bad things, thinking they're right, what they're doing is a good thing even though it's bad, and then when something fucked up happens to the bad person, they always have a loved one who comes in and wants revenge and they completely ignore the fact that their loved one was doing fucked up shit. They have convinced their self that they're doing, but what they're doing is right Even though it's terribly wrong, and that's what Abby's on right now. And so then we have episode two, which has been the most action packed episode of this season so far, because we got Abby and her friends trying to get into jackson to get joel. Then we got the infected hiding under the snow. Now that harper is back to ellie feeling like and reporting to the council that the infected are getting smart because they're hiding under the snow, are they laying a trap? I feel like they're laying a trap, or they could just're hiding under the snow. Are they laying a trap? I feel like they're laying a trap, or they could just be hiding under the snow because there's nothing else for them to do when they're bored, but when people come close enough, they're ambushing people. So, yeah, this could be them showing signs of intelligence by ambushing and laying traps.
Speaker 1:And then you have the Battle of Jackson. I want you all to understand something the Battle of Jackson gave me Season 8 Battle of Winterfell vibes. It really did, I guess, if you have the comparison infected. And then the whites, which are zombies in both situations. Okay, but Jackson was very well prepared. They had a plan and everything, and they had a better, better, better battle plan than Jon Snow and company, despite the fact that Jon Snow had two dragons to help.
Speaker 1:And then, of course, the penultimate moment in episode two, abby gets her revenge. She gets to kill Joel and she does it in front of Ellie, and I don't think and killing him in front of Ellie wasn't part of the plan, but that's how it happened in the game and they're really trying to stick to the source material as this show goes on. From what I can tell, I never played the game. And then, of course, episode three is the aftermath. You got everything that happened after the Battle of Jackson Everybody's reeling.
Speaker 1:You got this incredible loss of life. We got to rebuild the walls. And then everybody, including Ellie, is dealing with the death of Joel, because Joel was not just important to Ellie, joel was important to everybody. He was a leader in the community. Joel was important to everybody. He was a leader in the community. Ok, so, and unknowingly, abby has placed Ellie on the same path that she was on the path to revenge and this and I want to have a question Do bad guys really think about that? If I go out here and get my revenge does the person I'm getting revenge on.
Speaker 1:Do they have any loved ones that might come back for me later? Hmm, you know, because despite Ellie and Joel's relationship and how bad it was, she still loved Joel. That was daddy to her and she was a daughter to him, you know. But that goes back to my thought process. I always wanted to do bad guys give any thought to rep, to retribution from loved ones they go out to get their revenge. Do they ever think, hmm, this motherfucker going to come back and get me later on? I don't think they ever think about that. I don't think that ever registers. And it could be why in the real world organized criminals are known to knock off the whole family Because we cannot risk little Jimmy coming back for us when little Jimmy comes of age. Okay, then also in episode three you get that council meeting where Ellie makes her plea to the council to send somebody, to send a group to catch Abby and her friends. And we all know nobody was surprised when the council voted no, nobody was surprised about that. But just like we weren't surprised that the council said no, we also weren't surprised that Ellie was going to go anyway. Ok, there was literally nothing that could stop Ellie from going after Abby and her people. Not a chance, all right. And so then that brings us to episode four. Now let me say something, and I may be wrong here to some people, but episode four felt like a little bit of a filler episode to me, okay. So let's let's get into it.
Speaker 1:We have Jeffrey Wright playing Isaac, and Isaac is the leader of the WLF and we, we and when we see him the first time, this is years before he becomes the leader and he has a quiet resolve about him. He's a military leader, but when he speaks you can tell people listen, you know what I'm saying. He got that kind of demeanor and we also learn quickly that he doesn't suffer fools. But he does recognize potential. But he does recognize potential because when they're in that armored truck and those other soldiers are having this conversation about how their military leader Greenberg, you know, persecuted citizens and how they took away people's rights to vote and things like that, you could tell he had nothing but disdain for these soldiers as they were laughing and joking about this and and that kind of goes forward when we see what he did to them. But he also saw potential in Burton because he let him out, okay, and so just to. And that goes back to him not suffering fools as he threw two live grenades into the truck, locked it down and blew everybody else up and then shot the driver when the driver survived and jumped out. And then also he's a little sadistic as a torturer.
Speaker 1:Now, as somebody who's watched a lot of TV and movies over the years, I have seen torture done countless times over and over again. I'm reminded of Taken the first Taken, when he strapped that dude to the chair with the electrodes and kept flipping the switch and electrocuting him. I remember that. I remember Denzel Washington and Safehouse and how they was waterboarding him, denzel Washington and safe house and how they was waterboarding him. But to take a frying pan, put it on the stove, get it hot and then sit it on somebody's skin, that is a new level of torture that I've never even thought about. Like he took it to a different level in that moment and that just shows me how sadistic this guy, isaac, really is.
Speaker 1:And now also in episode four, ellie and Dina have arrived in Seattle. This is new territory for them and so far they haven't really run into any problems when they reach Seattle no infected, nobody else trying to kill them. Everything's going as well as you could expect it to go in an apocalyptic world. But then they run into the WLF a band of soldiers from the WLF and a subway full of infected those soldiers from the WLF. They didn't make it, they was out of there. They may have took a few infected with them, but the infected numbers were so huge in that subway and I remember watching dina. Dina has this weird ability to it's like she hears them and she can count how many of them there are. And when she hit five you could notice how her demeanor got a little nervous. She kind of got shaky and that let me know there were way more than five down there, way more than five, and it Way more than five and it turned into a fucking horde of infected down there.
Speaker 1:And in the midst of getting away from the infected to save Dina, ellie gets bit and Dina sees Ellie get bit. Now Dina doesn't know that Ellie's infected. I mean, dina doesn't know that Ellie is immune to the bite. She doesn't know this. So now Dina is faced in her mind with the conundrum that every person in every zombie movie, tv show that has had a loved one get bit. She's faced with that conundrum. I got to kill the person that I love before they turn. Now again, it's no surprise to me that Ellie hasn't told Dina about her immunity.
Speaker 1:And why would you tell somebody that that kind of info invites hatred? It invites scorn from other people, because there are some people that are going to say why you? What makes you so special that you're immune? Why not me, why not my son, why not my daughter, my mama, my, my daddy? Why come they weren't the ones that immune? Or why weren't they immune to? You invite that kind of hatred and scorn when you just walk around telling people you're immune to the blight and you're going to invite some jealousy and you're going to run into those people, like Abby's daddy, who might want to experiment on you and see what it is about you that makes you immune so we can pass this shit around like a cure at your detriment. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But Ellie convinces Dana of the truth that she's immune. And when Dana realizes that Ellie is immune the next morning, it's an awakening for her. She's no longer on the fence about how she feels about Ellie. She lets Ellie know. She comes completely clean about her feelings and the fact that she's pregnant, found the pregnancy test in the midst of their scavenging and she took four of them and they all came back positive and after that they have their first intimate moment. They have sex right there on the floor of this building, this dirty, nasty building. I am completely messed up about people who have sex during the apocalypse because y'all ain't washing y'all bodies, y'all just out here just running around and having sex.
Speaker 1:It reminds me of that episode of the Walking Dead when Rick and Michonne were out hunting for supplies in the van and they, in the midst of hunting for supplies, they was getting it in and I'm like y'all ain't got a wet wipe, wet towel, nothing. Y'all nasty but anyway. And of course, after they have their moment and they realize that they want to be together and they got this baby on the way and Ellie is going to be the daddy, so to speak they hear some noise on the walkie talkie and they hear the name Nora. And they know Nora. That's one of Abby's friends, that's one of Abby's people that were there when Abby killed Joel, and now it's back to business. Abby killed Joel and now it's back to business.
Speaker 1:And so what do I take from episode four? I take from episode four, as I've sat here and talked about it, I take from it that episode four was not really a filler episode after all. And it answers one of the biggest questions I've had about this show since episode two of season two Can this show survive without Pedro Pascal? And I believe it can. I believe this show will continue to be great, despite the fact that he's no longer in it, and I do believe he'll be in it again and maybe some sort of flashback scene later on uh, probably toward the end of the season. I'm positive of that because that's the kind of thing hbo does. But I am one of the things I truly like about this show and, as somebody who's never played the game, this show is true to the source material. Like I knew, joel was going to die, but did I think it was going to be as soon as it did, like episode two of season two? Not a chance. I thought it would happen later on in season two, maybe even next season, but to happen this soon and I know that just from reading some information a lot of people were put off the game. They were done with the game when Joel was killed, and I can understand that as well. He's a major protagonist. That's like having a Justice League cartoon and you're going to kill off Superman, batman or Wonder Woman with no plot twist of them being resurrected or coming back. No, they're just dead, they're gone, done. So I can understand people feeling a certain way, but as this show continues to go on, I truly understand that Joel's death is going to be a driving force for the remainder of this season.
Speaker 1:But we also have other things to look forward to. We have Ellie and Dina's relationship. Dynamic has changed forever. They're not just two friends flirting with each other and cracking jokes on each other anymore. They're an actual couple with a baby on the way to boot, and I think that's going to make Ellie become a lot more protective over Dina. And then she's going to start to identify with the way Joel was toward her, always trying to protect her. She's going to start to understand him more and I think it's going to open her up a little bit.
Speaker 1:And then we have this new character intro, isaac. Isaac is, in my opinion. He's going to fill a void left by Pedro Pascal as a antithetical person to Joel, where Joel was nice, kind, loving and protective. Joel is sadistic, he's cunning, he doesn't mind knocking people off when needs be. So I'm really interested in how this show will continue to go.
Speaker 1:I'm ready to see more of Isaac's character.
Speaker 1:I'm ready to see him unfold and come out a little bit more, because I think this last episode was just the intro.
Speaker 1:We got a little bit of him, but I feel like there's so much more to him that I don't know, because, hey, I never played the game. And then I'm excited to continue to watch Ellie exact her revenge not only on Abby, but also on Abby's friends. I am anxious. I want there to be this moment where Abby realizes somebody is coming for her, this moment where Abby realizes somebody is coming for her. I want her to have this moment where she realized that that circle of friends she had outside of Jackson when she killed Joel, I want her to realize that that circle of friends is getting smaller and smaller with every one of them that Ellie knocks off. I am amped about this show. It is one of the best shows going in 2025 right now, and I cannot wait to see how the rest of the season continues, cause we're about halfway through. There's about four episodes left, most likely maybe five, but how the rest of it unfolds, man can't wait.
Speaker 1:Today in Things Worldly, but Not Nerdy. I have been in love with politics since age nine. It was 1992 when I watched my first presidential debate with my mama Ross Perot, bill Clinton, daddy Bush. I didn't know what they were talking about, but it triggered something in me and I have watched every presidential debate since that day. And as time went by I got more and more into politics. It really took off for me my senior year in high school, when I took government and I really started to understand how the government works.
Speaker 1:And one thing I have always enjoyed about the political discourse in this country is that, regardless to what side of the aisle you're on Democrat, republican, left right, independent liberal, conservative, moderate there was always a common ground. Always a common ground. There were always things that we all want, regardless of party affiliation. We all want good schools, great economy, protect the second amendment good immigration policy, lower prices in the grocery store, lower taxes, cheap gas things we all want. We just disagree on how to achieve them. But over the last 10 or so years, common ground is ignored. It's still there, it's waving at us all the time, but the political discourse in this country now just ignores common ground. But the political discourse in this country now just ignores common ground. If you don't agree with us wholeheartedly, then we disagree wholeheartedly. Now, in my opinion, the left is more willing to negotiate than the right. The right has a thought process that says we cannot negotiate with them. We cannot negotiate with the radical left and their woke ideologies OK, whatever. But we should. We should be willing to negotiate, we should be willing to come to the table and talk. But the real question I have is for the MAGA crowd, those MAGA Republicans and I want it understood there is a difference between regular Republicans and MAGA Republicans. Regular Republicans are in short supply. There's not a lot of them left. Rip to John McCain. But you got Mitt Romney still out here, you got Liz Cheney and a few others and that's it. But those mega Republicans, they hold major sway in the Republican Party right now your Pete Hegseth, lauren Boebert, rubio, byron Davis, marjorie Taylor Greene, rubio, byron Davis, marjorie Taylor Greene and, of course, at the top of the mountain, president Donald Trump.
Speaker 1:No-transcript, why Now somebody? I have never voted Republican for a presidential candidate, not because I didn't want to, not because I'm not willing to, but because I've never truly agreed 100%, or not even 100%, but I've never came across a Republican candidate that I could agree with them enough to say you got my vote. Never happened. But even though I've always voted for the Democrat, I've been able to look at that Democrat if they won and said, hey, I didn't like that thing, I didn't like that policy.
Speaker 1:When Obama won and they pushed through the Affordable Care Act with zero Republican support, I wasn't cool with that because I believe in bipartisanship and I believe that when you don't have bipartisanship on a bill of that magnitude, I knew they were going to spend to the end of time trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act. I knew Republicans would try to repeal it, repeal it, and they have. They voted to repeal that thing so many times. It's ridiculous. They haven't achieved it. They've been able to chip away at it, but they haven't repealed it. And they have. They voted to repeal that thing so many times. It's ridiculous. They haven't achieved it. They've been able to chip away at it, but they haven't repealed it. But they won't stop trying until they can. And I knew that would happen because they didn't support it. I knew whenever they got back in full power they would try it again. I knew they would. But why come you guys can't critique them when they say outlandish things? When Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, when they get up and say the most outlandish stuff, nobody on the right will hold them accountable. Why is that? When Pete Hanks said Secretary of Defense, he's literally leaked sensitive information through a signal chat to a reporter, to his wife, his brother and his personal lawyer but nobody on the right has said hey, dude, you shouldn't have done that. That was wrong, never happened.
Speaker 1:Donald Trump recently had an interview in the Oval Office with a reporter and they asked him about the Declaration of Independence that was on the wall and they said what does that mean to you? And he started talking about love and unity and all this other stuff. And I'm like what? Even the reporter looked at the wall, then looked back at Donald. Like are we talking about the same document? Because the Declaration of Independence, that document was a huge fuck you to England, we're done, we're out, we don't want to be a part of you anymore. But I guess in President Trump's mind at that point nothing says fuck you, we're out. Like love and unity, little figure Even. And the most egregious point for me was at that rally before the election in New York, madison Square Garden, where they called Kamala Harris everything but a child of God. It was just the most egregious hate-filled thing I think I've ever heard in my life, and nobody on the right said that's not cool, that's not what it's supposed to be about.
Speaker 1:Make it make sense and I feel like if we're not able, as a people, to critique our elected officials, if we can't look at our elected officials and say, hey, that was wrong, then we're in trouble. I mean, even when Donald Trump was in his first term, there were things he did, a lot of things he did that I didn't like. But there were a few things where I was like, hey, that was a good one, you got it that time. I'm with you on that one. But if we're at a place where we can't critique our elected officials as a country, I'm going to let y'all know right now we're cooked. We are cooked people if we cannot critique our elected officials. But that's just my thoughts on that topic.
Speaker 1:Now, as we switch gears for a second, I will say this Social media frustrates me to no end. I hate social media sometimes as much as I love it. I hate it because there are so many toxic things on there Men versus women, the 50-50 conversation, and, of course, amazon just keeps selling podcast equipment to anybody with a dumb ass opinion, and they keep getting platforms. I don't understand it, but at the same time, social media always has a way of giving me something that will make me smile, that will make me laugh, me smile, that'll make me laugh, and nothing over the last week has made me laugh and smile more than this gorilla versus 100 million conversation. Now, there are tons of people out there saying there's no way that 100 million can beat a gorilla. It's not possible, and I want to know. Those people are right.
Speaker 1:Under certain circumstances, if we're going to approach this gorilla one at a time, yeah, all 100 of us are going to see Jesus, first class ticket. We're out of here, ok, but if we jump that gorilla, if we jump that gorilla, we can whoop this gorilla's ass. I'm telling you and I'm going to tell you how we do it. I got a plan and here we go To beat this gorilla. All 100 men got to get at me.
Speaker 1:All right, number one this is the first thing I need. I need five Nigerian men Now I work with a number of Nigerians. And one thing I can tell you about them. They can be having the calmest conversation, but it'll be loud, so loud in fact, that you think they're arguing, but they're not. They're, in total, agree with each other, but guess what? You'll think they're arguing. So I need five Nigerian men to have one of these totally agreeable, loud conversations about 10 to 12 feet away from the gorilla, because it's going to confuse him, because he ain't going to know what the hell they go, what's going on?
Speaker 1:All right, then I need 25 Gen X millennial rock throwers. I know some of y'all like that. You was real good at throwing rocks back in the day. You could skip that rock across the lake. You could throw that rock and hit somebody in the back of the head. I need y'all. What I want y'all 25 to do is to get about 20 to 25, maybe 30 yards away from the gorilla in a complete circle. I want y'all to flank him on all sides and I want y'all to just pelt his ass with rocks.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, granted, at some point he gonna charge at some of y'all and some of y'all ain't gonna make it out of that situation. But we doing this for the greater good, all right, but he gonna be disoriented with these rocks. He ain't going to know who to attack because the rocks are coming from all sides. All right, now the next thing I need. I need 30 people of great strength, but fast, ok, because I want y'all to attack this gorilla. All 30 of y'all to attack this gorilla all 30 of y'all. Now. I believe that 30 should be comprised of crackheads, crashouts and Waffle House workers okay, three groups of people who don't give a damn if they live or die. All right, attack the gorilla with everything y'all got. Now, at this point, after the attack of the crash house, the crackheads and the Waffle House workers. This group should be tired Now. Granted, among that crash house group, a bunch of y'all might not make it, but guess what? You knew what we was getting into when we started this. A bunch of y'all might not make it.
Speaker 1:Now I'm down to 40 men left 39. Now. I'm down to 40 men left 39 of them. I need the big show Shaq, brock, lesnar, mike Tyson, somebody resurrect the prime. Kimbo Slice Alright, I need these 39 to give this gorilla everything they got. The last four members of that 39, though, are special. I need two Florida men, and that is self-explanatory are special. I need two Florida men, and that is self-explanatory. We know why I need two Florida men. Don't even ask me. But the last two members of that 39, I need two gay men. Now you're going to ask me why I need two gay men.
Speaker 1:Years ago, when I was a kid, my daddy told me something. He said, son, no matter what you do, you don't fight no gay men. And at that point in life I didn't really understand what daddy meant by that. What you mean don't fight gay men. But as I grew up and saw gay men get into fights, I realized why daddy said don't fight no gay men. Because gay men can fight. I ain't never seen one of them lose. I once saw a guy get dragged by a gay man, I'm talking got his ass towed down. I don't know what it is, but gay men all can fight. And if they hit your ass with one of these one of these, okay, not a fist, but one of these they bring one of them down on you. It's over for you Now.
Speaker 1:After the 39 and the rock throwers and the crackheads, the crash shots and the Nigerians, there's one man left, one man. The gorilla is probably done. He ain't got much left, and that's when I need one man to come in and bring out his best Out of nowhere. I need Randy fucking Orton, legend killer, to come through and hit this gorilla with a smooth RKO and close him out. Don't kill him, because I don't want no problems with Peter, but close this gorilla out. And when the gorilla's down, when the gorilla's out and unconscious, we're going to sing songs of victory. Okay, we're going to honor our fallen brothers, but the 100 men will have victory over this fucking silverback gorilla. If you follow my plan to the letter, you understand me. All right, that's my time for this week, y'all. I'm Lord Paramount, lord Cicero, the Great of the Southeast Kingdom, and I'll see y'all next time. Thank, you.