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Protests, Power, and the Symbolic Eagle's Flight

Christi Chanelle & Phoebe James Season 2 Episode 6

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The episode explores the complexities of modern journalism amid rising media biases and protests. We discuss the implications of political figures’ actions on the media landscape, the importance of accountability in reporting, and the influence of public opinion on corporate policies. 
• Conversations on recent protests across the United States 
• Media coverage and the effect of bias on public perception 
• The role of Trump in shaping media narratives 
• Importance of alternative news sources for unbiased information 
• The consequences of corporate decisions on societal values 
• Commentary on the Super Bowl and its cultural implications 
• Exploration of how everyday actions can influence larger movements

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Speaker 1:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:

What you actually what Took notes. I was like sitting there writing some stuff down, I was like, all right, I mean it's happening. So there's so many things to pull from. Where do we even start?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't know, I'm lost at this point. But it's so much that it's like, well, if we don't start, we're going to get behind real quick.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

It's gonna be that kind of night let's go okay.

Speaker 2:

So what I know I?

Speaker 1:

know, I don't know, why is that so easy to understand that I'm just completely like ugh. Every day is just like another shock and awe campaign.

Speaker 2:

I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I was about to call it another shit show. That's what it really is every day, but you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think there's a protest today at all the capitals and 50 states. Okay, yeah, I think there is.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I know that they had one this weekend in Dallas. I think it was Sunday, oh.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, some people were protesting about deportations and you know all that trying to block that from happening here in texas okay, and it sounded like it went off without a hitch, because I haven't heard anything yeah, I mean there was a decent turnout. I mean for it to be one of the first ones and not hardly anyone heard of it.

Speaker 1:

Because you didn't hear of it I barely did um from my sister um, but I did see it on the news actually, so it made a little bit of headway that is a good segue into one of my topics oh, what you got okay uh, you had mentioned.

Speaker 2:

You saw it on the on the news, which would mean what station did?

Speaker 1:

you see, it on. I hate to say it was probably Fox, because I the only local news I watch is Fox News what. But it's a local. It's not the big Fox National, it's not you know, but it is. It's a Fox News local station and I like it. I will say their views really don't seem that skewed. They pretty much seem like Whatever.

Speaker 2:

Normal news yeah.

Speaker 1:

I really like that weather guy there and I like the host, so I've gotten used to it. That's what I watch every morning before, like while we're getting ready for work. That's the only actual mainstream news I pick up. Is that Fox in the morning?

Speaker 2:

for maybe 35 minutes while we're getting ready usually results in my husband ranting even before he leaves for the day.

Speaker 1:

But hey well, yeah, no, the local's different than the actual Fox News channel.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that I have been watching it, though, but that's not what I was going to say. It's good to hear, though, you know, yeah, I, there are some good alternative media sources if you want an unbiased opinion, so I was going to pull that up. Ok, everyone Where's it at? But AP, associated Press, pbs, newshour, democracy Now, propublica, the BBC Rutgers and Courier Newsroom so those are some you know, right in the middle, tell you the news. They're not going to side one way or the other, which is really what I'm looking for right now. Yeah, um, but I know that I don't know exactly who's suing them. I guess trump is coming after pbs, I know that, and npr.

Speaker 2:

I know he wants to like defund them, right, he doesn't want, yeah, to fund the government, to fund them, yeah yeah, he's going after him now because he's saying that they're not allowed to have commercials and they did, and they're saying that's a lie, that's not what's happening.

Speaker 1:

Yeah wow, I hadn't heard that. Yep, okay, I mean it's sad, um, and it's not shocking, because we know he's, he's going to be one that wants to go after journalists We've talked about that especially unbiased journalists, mm, hmm, independent.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think for me it makes me very nervous, because Podcasters are on the table, anybody that opposes him is on the table, and that's kind of scary. Him is on the table, and that's kind of scary. Yeah, not that we're famous or anything, but if it is it, where does he draw the line? That's the thing. You don't know, right. What if we pick up a hundred thousand followers in a month? Yeah we're on the line.

Speaker 1:

One thing we say goes viral, and if he doesn't like that one thing, then what happens? I don't know yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So these just things that are, do we go on a list?

Speaker 1:

a list. I'm probably already on somebody's list. I probably am too. We can go for it.

Speaker 2:

We can add another yep, so what are some crazy things that you've come across?

Speaker 1:

well, um, well, the one. I wanted to try to see if this lighting improves. No, no, it's actually not improving at all. I'm blue. Sometimes, though, I'm blue. Do I look like a star? Yep, okay, one thing that I had brought up last week, I know, and I think when I brought it up, I had just said, like I bet that's what he's going to try to do. He had some, he had a take on Palestine and what we should do with the Gaza Strip. I think I mentioned that he was just like we should clear it all out. So, half to Jordan, half to Egypt, clear it out.

Speaker 1:

Well, I was right on what I had said last week, have you heard, because he has since added to his whole concept. He just came out last night in a press conference, I believe, or I don't know if it would be a press conference, but it was an announcement A joint news conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That's what I call. Him a lot BB. And yeah, he literally said I think we can make this the Middle Eastern Riviera. It's just what I said. He's wanting to take that land and turn it into commercial properties and and develop it out into Trump, trump, fucking Trump strip. I don't know what he'd want it to be. I'm sure, like I said last week, something Trump buys gold.

Speaker 1:

Trump buys. Yeah, he wants to, you know, make some money off of him and his son-in-law, jared kushner. Probably they didn't say that. I begin, I'm insinuating, but it seems like it's so obvious man is doing yeah it's so obvious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's a concern I mean it's frightening to even think about. It's crazy that a us president would come out and say some something like that, um, especially when we all know how much he would gain from a business deal like that. And I just hope that the rest of the world is going to be able to stop us like that. They're not going to allow that. You know, this is what I hope other countries are going to be like hey, slow your roll, like that's not not OK.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Well, I mean there's outrage. I can tell you that there's definite outrage about this happening.

Speaker 1:

yeah rightfully so.

Speaker 2:

There should be yeah, he's like how can you talk about pro-life and and be be okay with this?

Speaker 1:

yeah, when let's yeah two sides of your mouth he's talking out of yeah, and then, like it's supposed to be, if anything, they're fighting over it because what they both think they have a right to it. As far as holy land, how is it developing it and turning it into the middle eastern riviera gonna have anything to do with that? So it's not disturbing.

Speaker 2:

But maga will be like yeah, he's so right. I've seen that I'm not even lying. I've seen that.

Speaker 1:

I've seen people say awesome, turn it into that yeah, because you're ever going to get, because you're ever going to get invited. You're never going to get invited.

Speaker 2:

Just so you know You're not in the elite guest list Sorry. You're not at all yeah.

Speaker 1:

So that's one of the big ones that I was like this asshole. That's all I can say. Yeah, what's something you've heard lately?

Speaker 2:

Have you got anything big? Well, I have a little good news. You know how Target was rolling back, dei, yes, and it did not go well for them in the few days or the weeks that they decided to do this, and people were protesting and all over the place like don't shop at Target, right? I?

Speaker 1:

mean I agreed, I did.

Speaker 2:

Well, a news article has come out that said the shareholders are suing Target. Oh, that's interesting, because they did not know that this was coming and it has affected their wallet.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. That's about the only thing that people care about. Yeah, so I think they're bringing it back.

Speaker 2:

They are bringing DEI back and people are still saying don't care. Oh, now you want to bring it back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah I was. That really disappointed me. I thought Target might have a little more clout than that Yep. You know, I was going through all those DEI who was doing what and and I mean they were really rolling back some good stuff. That was happening and it was really disappointing to see but kroger has it.

Speaker 2:

So I was like cool, that's where I shop. Yeah, I, you know for groceries, like target is a little bit more pricey for grocery stuff, but yeah, can't go to target anymore.

Speaker 1:

I know walmart is very much into it, so I'm like what am I going to do now? Where do I go and get shampoo if I can't go to target, or walmart? Pro trump. Arab american group changes its name after the president's gaza riviera comments. Yes, I mean, how could you be a arab American group for Trump in the first place? But OK, like.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought you were going to talk about the Proud Boys and what happened with them. What?

Speaker 1:

happened with those idiots? I can't wait to hear what's happening with them.

Speaker 2:

Well, they had trashed, vandalized a church, a black church, and the black church bought the name Proud Boys. So now, or something like that, or there was a lawsuit and they had to give up something. I forget something to that effect. I'm sure you can pull it up, but it was, and now they're not allowed to use it. They have to ask that church for permission.

Speaker 1:

That is hilarious. They don't own their name, that's it. They have to ask that church for permission. That is hilarious.

Speaker 2:

They don't own their name. That's fun. Yeah, I love that. I was like don't you love when karma strikes back? I love it. I love it. That is awesome. And you know how. The tariffs for China what is it? 10% tariffs, what is it 10 percent tariffs? Well, TikTok is partly not totally, but partly owned by China and ByteDance was looking to make a deal and Trump recently said sovereign, he wanted to create a sovereign wealth fund for America a couple days ago and he wants to use that to buy 50% of TikTok. Yeah, I know, but the Chinese have come up and said you know what? You just threw a tariff on us. We're going to let the American TikTok die. That was today, so I don't know what's going to happen by the time this airs, but OK, he's like unless you want to change your mind.

Speaker 2:

It's back to dying again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, unless Trump rolls back on the tariff stance with China, he's not going to do that for. Tiktok. No, no, I mean he used to. He used to call for tiktok to be banned also himself. So it's kind of a another one of his about face things that he's even acting like he wants to keep it, you know yeah, so we got a problem.

Speaker 2:

Houston, we got a problem. Yeah, interesting, pen's not working.

Speaker 1:

I like that um arab americans for trump. Arab americans for trump have changed their name to arab americans for peace. Oh, I know there's some I don't know why they ever thought they were for trump in general. But hey, it's not the first group that we've heard that's already been like what were we thinking? Let's go backtrack on that. I bet there's going to be a lot throughout this four years of groups that are like wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

There is a trend, a hashtag, leaving MAGA that's circulating.

Speaker 1:

That's a fun trend.

Speaker 2:

I think it's fun too, but I don't know if I believe that it's that big. I think they're making it bigger than it is, because everybody I hear is fine, has no issue, at least online. Online, they have no issue.

Speaker 1:

I just found their website. That's fun Leaving MAGAorg it's founded. You did website. That's fun leaving magaorg. It's founded yeah, founded in 2024 to be a community and safe space for those who have left the movement or have doubts and remorse about staying in maga, but are afraid to leave. How are you afraid to leave what it can get a little dicey in there, like once you get jumped in you're in it for life yeah, yeah, a cult Mm.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, yeah, so that's interesting. I think it's going to have more members, as we definitely go through like you were saying, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Former MAGA leader starts leaving MAGA to help others escape, so it was OK. Founded by someone who's really left the cult. That is MAGA Yep. It's really scary, Just in general. That is MAGA Yep.

Speaker 2:

It's really scary, just in general.

Speaker 2:

I still get confused, but I know we were talking about Fox and I jumped off of that topic for a second, but I did want to say I've been watching Fox the bad one Just because I want to understand what they're being told versus what I'm being told and, yeah, why we think so differently.

Speaker 2:

And, um, I understand it now they're. We're out there not me specifically, but other people are out there, um, protesting and saying, uh, jasmine Crockett was just out there. I don't know if you know who she is, but if you listen to her speech two days ago maybe it was yesterday it is so good and so powerful. I actually teared up. I was like this is what we needed. We needed to hear somebody saying fuck you, because they're so like demure and classy and they're not really fighting the way that we should be at this point, like gloves should be off at this point and um, so I was watching fox and they're showing they're not showing her, they're showing other people with like dumb moments you know like they showed the dnc when they were trying to elect their person.

Speaker 2:

They're showing one person singing and then they showed them doing like the electric slide or whatever. I'm like that's not what's happening. That is not what's happening, like it's just any opportunity and it's like the. It's like the people that you're just like, seriously, that's who you picked to show. It's not a good represent representative of who we are and what we're doing out here at all.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I mean normal people don't make good news, I guess that's true.

Speaker 2:

That's true, um, but yeah, they know, they think it's it's good that elon has the purse strings and he's not willing. Yeah, they think it's good, they think that is so scary.

Speaker 1:

Why does a civilian have access to that much it?

Speaker 2:

it just blows my mind I don't know, but I know, being in ar in accounting, that it is so. It we don't even save credit card information, like the last four digits is what gets email, because it is so critical to not share others information. You know payroll, all these different areas where they have classified information. Not everybody in the company can see everybody's information. It's a few select people that are within that hr group. Yeah, and and, and and. It's like if we have to do that on a micro scale, it's not rocket science to know that he should not be allowed to have my social and yours I mean, yeah, I think I'm too boring for him, but yeah you would.

Speaker 2:

You would be surprised, phoebe, yeah, you know, you would be surprised and yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it's just unsettling to say it's very unsettling, especially when, I mean, I know elon's already like I'm gonna pull the plug on this one. He doesn't even know what the fuck he's pulling the plug on. He doesn't even know what these, these places do.

Speaker 2:

Something happened today. Republicans block Elon Musk from congressional subpoena as Doge scrutinizes NOAA.

Speaker 1:

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Yeah, oh, doge now has access to their IT systems. Yeah, and reviewing their DEI program.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yep, why are these their fucking priorities? Shit is mind-blowing, it makes so little sense they.

Speaker 2:

They released on fox all these crazy things. I saw like going to sex changes and yes, I'm like, is this true?

Speaker 1:

like, is this true, because that's a problem I mean, if it's true, it is a problem.

Speaker 2:

But but it validates what he's doing I mean, you know the broken.

Speaker 1:

A broken clock is right two times a day. So I mean, all this sweeping stuff they're doing, they might get something right, but I don't think I still don't think anything that elon's ending up is going to go right. Disaster relief is one of its longstanding missions. Most visible function is the provision of disaster assistance for foreign nations. In 2023, the countries to receive the most funding were Ukraine, ethiopia, jordan, democratic Republic of Congo, somaliaemen, afghanistan, nigeria, south sudan and syria. It operates the world's largest single donor of international food assistance. I'm not hearing anything bad yet. Um, I'm.

Speaker 2:

I heard like a I forget like a play seventy thousand dollars,000? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I heard that this article is not saying anything about it. I have to keep digging for that Because, again, it's like who knows if that's real or if it's hyperbole, or she just saw it somewhere but didn't actually fact check it. I mean, because Trump's you know press secretaries aren't known for really being super knowledgeable and super truthful. It says they're putting nearly all staff on leave and stopping all overseas emissions. So I mean this the the countries that they are in. They definitely need help and relief. So it's, things are going to get a lot harder for a lot of people in the world because of this stuff.

Speaker 2:

I want to try to make this a 30 minute episode. Ok, because then we can do more if we do that, ok. So I want you to be able to throw in anything you want to right now that you think is prevalent, because I'm going to end on this last one I have. I have a. I have an end on purpose, oh, an end on purpose, ooh. An end on purpose, ooh, that's a teaser.

Speaker 1:

So you're asking me what do I want to end on? I'm more curious now. What you got, I want to end on what you have.

Speaker 2:

I got nothing. Okay, oh, as usual, Phoebe. So the Super Bowl is Sunday. You know what I'm going to say now, don't you?

Speaker 1:

Maybe. What are you going to say, you?

Speaker 2:

do it's Eagles and Chiefs, uh-huh, and now my dog's barking.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad it's notagles and chiefs, and now my dog's barking um, it's not mine, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So okay, first, before we get into the what I'm gonna say, we already know who you're picking yes, chiefs, yes chiefs yes, phoebe's from kansas city. In case anybody didn't know that I'm from, I'm. I have dallas right here in my background. I don't even know why they're annoying. Hold on one sec, okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I know what I could say while you're gone and I'm here by myself. Dallas Mavericks, what are y'all doing? Why did we just trade away one of the greatest NBA players in history? Sorry, definitely right now For Anthony Davis. Older, slower, what the fuck.

Speaker 2:

I went and I looked. I didn't even see anybody at the door. Oh, okay, so you're picking KC, I'm picking KC. Yes, and Trump is supposedly going to be there because he's got all this time, you know yeah yeah. And they the Super Bowl. The NFL was going to put anti-racism things in the end zone, from what I understand, and they are taking it up. They're not putting it out because of the DEI.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's going to upset our president.

Speaker 2:

No, yes, mm, hmm.

Speaker 1:

Mm, hmm, yeah, so protesting has now become a thing. It's definitely definitely a thing in general right now. Um, yeah, my sister is back activated too, so I will be keeping you posted on my right here.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she gets very active, yeah okay, yeah, I know, I definitely want to know, but um that's too bad it's really bad. It's really really bad.

Speaker 2:

Uh, I'm deeply upset by it yeah, it's almost like people feel pressured to be fucking racist, even if they don't want to be now, uh-huh yeah and so a lot of people are like going to the nfl website and really kind of throwing their opinions out there saying this isn't okay, this is not okay, right, yeah. So just to lighten up the mood, figured, I'd throw that out there, yeah, yeah. So feel free for the people that listen to go check it out, to verify that and make your own decision. But, um, yeah, I hate the eagles, that's what my, that's what I'm gonna end on. I hate the nfl anyway oh, oh.

Speaker 1:

I just thought of something. Oh, like they're horrible, that's a horrible organization, and then they're non-profit bullshit get the eagles or nfl the nfl in general.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't like the organization as a whole so yeah, well, a lot of people think it's rigged um, and then hater, hater, um. But also here's a weird thing okay, the Eagles represent America and the Chiefs represent Native America and and Commander-in-Chief, the President. Now we're reaching.

Speaker 1:

It does not represent.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying if we had to make a battle, you know what I mean, I'd rather it be. No, I don't want to. But anyways. America and the president, so everybody's like oh, the Eagles have to win.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say we're not calling the Chiefs part of Trump being commander. I knew Absolutely not. Christy, I'm sorry we're not giving you that one.

Speaker 2:

All right, we'll say Native Americans, native Americans Fighting, they're going to absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And have you heard about all of the dead eagles turning up lately? No, you're saying it might be a metaphor for Trump's presidency. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Here we are starting all sorts of conspiracy theories.

Speaker 1:

I mean it's not funny at all, but I've just been seeing that there's been. They've been finding bald eagles like dead. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I have not heard that. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

Where We'll have to look into it more. In the US.

Speaker 2:

That is not good. No, it's not. That is like a really bad sign. They're going to listen to us and go. What the hell are these people talking about?

Speaker 1:

What are they talking about?

Speaker 2:

We don't even know If that helps put it out there. We don't even know if that, if that helps put it out there, we don't.

Speaker 1:

I mean we just get it from the same sources you do. Who fucking knows what's true. It's probably generated.

Speaker 2:

Do we even have to fact check anymore? I mean, the president doesn't know.

Speaker 1:

Are you going to believe me or your lying ass eyes? That's exactly it.

Speaker 2:

I figured we'd end on a high note. Do you want to share any words of parting? Um no, I don't want to choke.

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