Kings of The Road

38: New Jersey and Philly: Wit Whiz Wisdom and Travel Tales

Scott Hawkins and Andrew Gaer

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Ever felt the thrill of navigating the bustling streets of Philadelphia, only to find yourself face-to-face with the legendary Pat's King of Steaks? This episode whisks you away to the birthplace of the iconic Philly cheesesteak, unraveling the mystique behind its unique ordering process. From mastering the local lingo—like saying "whiz wit" for cheese whiz and onions—to experiencing the electrifying atmosphere, we share our heartfelt memories of this flavorful adventure. Food isn't just sustenance for us; it's a gateway to understanding and appreciating the rich tapestry of American culture.

Engage with us as we dissect the intense rivalry between Pat's and Geno's Philly Cheesesteaks. It's not just about picking sides—provolone or cheese whiz?—but about delving deep into the culinary traditions that fuel these local loyalties. We share anecdotes about how these preferences spark lively conversations with Philly natives and ponder whether these delicious treats are daily indulgences or cherished special-occasion meals. Drawing from our own experiences with regional favorites like In-N-Out burgers, we uncover the universality of food in forging connections.

Our adventure doesn't stop there. Hit the road with us for some fast food hacks and regional discoveries, like the genius of adding a hash brown to a McDonald's breakfast sandwich. Relive the charm of Atlantic City's quirky shops, including a memorable stop at Condom Kingdom, and savor our tales of road trips filled with card games and laughter. The episode wraps up with a delightful mix of confusion and banter at dinner, reminding us all that the best travel stories are those shared with friends. So grab a cheesesteak, sit back, and let us take you on a journey that's as humorous as it is heartwarming.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Do standard data rates and messaging apply they?

Speaker 1:

probably do. I put your cell phone number in, by the way, so if you get blown up, it'll be just a whole bunch of. It shows up into the podcast.

Speaker 2:

That's cool, maybe.

Speaker 1:

I don't know when I hit the. When I hit the button, it's like activate this. I was like I like push the button. I'm like this is gonna cost me money. And they didn't. They didn't charge me so I was like, okay, it will text you your fees yes, exactly so, but I do not believe it cost me any money. So here we are, that is interesting yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey.

Speaker 2:

Where in the world?

Speaker 1:

are Carmen, san Diego or Scott and Andrew. Where are we in the world?

Speaker 2:

I still like our theme song better, but that's pretty good, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Yeah, no problem, scott, I'm excited to get into this day because, yeah, we're going back in time. Oh, I mean, like this whole thing is going back in time, but this is going back in time within back in time interesting, a double back in time this and we're like oh no, we must talk about it later. But it's sort of confusing because we're like but we're there, right, we talk about, we get into the nitty-gritty of cheesesteaks today I'm so glad.

Speaker 1:

I am so, so glad because cheesesteaks became a part of well. First of all, I think, as we've realized, food has been a part of our journey. Yes, right, yeah, we've gone on many rapid holes conversations of food, first of all, and then, secondly, cheese steaks are phenomenal and I really don't know what our back in time, back in time is going to be, which I, I love well, yeah, I think I forgot to write about it somehow, and so now I'm like oh, I need to write about that.

Speaker 2:

So perfect that's. Uh, that's what we're gonna do. And I feel a little bit bad because I just kind of had lunch but it's sort of the end of the week right now and you know, like the pickings are slim, I made myself a quesadilla, which that's always solid, but I was still hungry and so I just like had an apple and peanut butter and I'm like that's not really even a lunch.

Speaker 1:

And now we're going to talk about Philly. I'm really hungry and I'm hungry. I haven't had lunch. Lunch is on the horizon. The person I'm eating for lunch keeps pushing it back, and so it's like, oh is it? And I'm a little worried that it might not even happen. So we'll see. We'll see what God does with today's lunch, but I'm hungry too, so we could really be ready to dive down this hole.

Speaker 2:

Here we go. Well, we're going to feed your entertainment appetite now Feed your entertainment appetite.

Speaker 1:

Talking about this, and maybe you should have eaten before you listened. Listener.

Speaker 2:

I hope you did.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you're eating now Maybe if you're like.

Speaker 2:

What should I have for lunch to enjoy while I listen to my favorite podcast, which hopefully, is this one? Right, you will get a cheesesteak.

Speaker 1:

And if you happen to have at your home thinly sliced top round and peppers and onions and a hoagie roll, Well done, sir.

Speaker 2:

Which most people always just have on hand just sitting around I was sort of thinking you go out for lunch today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was that too when you said that, but I love it okay let's hear it.

Speaker 2:

All right, let's do it. So this is day 47. This is saturday, this is november 13th 2004, asterisk. Going back in time, dot dot dot. Before we went to the AC, also known as Atlantic City, on Thursday, we went to Pat's King of Steaks, one of the originals, one of debatably the original original original.

Speaker 1:

So one of debatably the original, original. Original. That's a new word. We're nailing our words today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is the original place of the Philly cheesesteak. How could I forget? It's a little stand and you have to order in their language. So to order in their language. So we will get into this language. But it there's a very famous seinfeld episode called the soup nazi. Everybody knows this episode, right, and you have to order exactly right. Or the soup nazi goes no soup for you, yep, right, and then you're like out of line and like that's it. So you have to order right. So this, not only are we here and we're like we're gonna get some great cheesesteaks, there's like this element of fear that if you screw this up, you're not gonna get your food or you're gonna get demeaned or something I don't know. Right, anyway, I'll just keep going. So so here's the language Cheese steak, wit whiz, that's good. Yeah, it's not with it's wit.

Speaker 1:

It's not cheese whiz, it's whiz Whiz.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or simply whiz wit. If you're a pro, you just go up to the window and you go whiz wit. If you're a pro, you just go up to the window and you go whiz wit, and they're like bam, bam, bam bam and your sandwich comes out. Yeah, and then for onions it's wit or wit out, and cheese is up to you, but cheese whiz is the only way to go. Okay, I thought wit meant with the cheese whiz, but wit actually means with onions, I see.

Speaker 1:

So it's wit. And then whiz is a second right, so cheese, so if you, if you, yeah, if you don't want onions you go without.

Speaker 2:

And then if you want whiz. You go whiz or provolone, but I think whiz is what you got to do.

Speaker 1:

And that is the big lesson that we learned in Philadelphia, because our naive, unknowing Californian brains pictured a cheesesteak as top round provolone cheese, onions and peppers on the hoagie roll. Right we show up and we are welcomed into a brand new world of cheese whiz that they just spoon out hot. Oh yeah, cheese whiz and when we say cheese whiz, we do not mean the spray can cheese, oh no that's not what they it's I'm worried that the listener might be thinking like a queso it's. It's more like the nacho cheese.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that you get at the dodger game or wherever in your little cup you're dipping your chips in, it's that cheese and they just have a bucket of it. Or you know the the five pound can that you open up and then splash it on there with the steak and the onions, close it up, wrap it up and that's your sandwich.

Speaker 1:

This, this is like teakwood in understanding for us. We we're looking at this and going good, good parallel, yes, right, like yeah, that that's how these are made, that's the way this should be, and it felt so brand new, so a whole new world a dazzling place. I've never been right on a carpet ride of of pleasure and taste buds, just firing with outrageous streams.

Speaker 1:

Yes, um no it truly was one of those things where I remember going, wow, what, this is what it's supposed to be, and it was great it was, it was a mixture of like this is amazing and also like that's it. Right, it's very simple.

Speaker 2:

There's a little bit of there's a little bit of that's it.

Speaker 1:

But don't you think also like that wasn't even on the table in my mind when we showed up there it's just so provolone we, just because it's just so provolone we, just we just put yeah, I don't even know if I thought like in my mind, you know, you think, oh, philly, philly cheese steak, uh yeah yeah, okay it's whatever, but if somebody were, to be like what's on it.

Speaker 1:

I'd be like steak cheese, yeah, other white cheese roll and the yeah and roll, and so for me it just like. That is amazing to the point. And when we got back from the road trip, um, I think we've teased some of these things. But then we ended up living together for four years and I did ministry at a church called first Christian church of orange, where Andrew was um useful and showed up to a lot of things and helped out in a lot of ways, which is very cool. A lot of ways which is very cool. We put on a thanks. I do, yeah, it was fun. We put on. We put on a um one night tell our our road trip story and we served dinner and yeah, I remember that made what we made was cheese tape sandwiches.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we did onions, we did the cheese whiz and and this was in emily and scott 1.0 dating. So she helped us and my dad remember my dad helped us too.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, in the kitchen chopping up, yeah, chopping up cheese, that's right that's right.

Speaker 1:

So, oh, that was good. This was an important meal. This was an important. It was what else? Because we, because we had that we made sweet tea, which was a new discovery for us too. Oh yeah, was there a third thing on the menu? Ooh, those are the two I remember. Nothing comes to mind Okay, that could be it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe there was something else, some little treat somewhere.

Speaker 1:

I don't think we made beignets or anything um, oh no, but those are great too, but those are great too. Yeah, shoot um yeah, man, I don't know. So yeah, but it was just like a whoa okay, yeah, because it it's so.

Speaker 2:

Flavor like provolone is relatively mild in a flavor, the whiz, while it's highly processed cheese food. The flavor is just right.

Speaker 1:

The combo is just right.

Speaker 2:

All right. So let's see, and that's a real Philly cheese steak Bread, a French roll steak, grilled onions and cheese whiz. If you order wrong, you go to the back of the line and try again. No joke, like you it was. If you get it wrong, they just go like you're out of here. Like these people meant business. There were no smiles, it was like I was nervous. Yes, I was making as many sandwiches as they can.

Speaker 1:

One step to the left, order, Two steps to the left pay Boom.

Speaker 2:

Sandwich one step to the left, order two steps left, pay boom sandwich out the door. Yeah, so I say here also you order and pay for your sandwich at one window and get fries and drinks at a different window. I wasn't paying a lot of attention at the drink window and the guy started yelling next, next, next, it's, it's crazy, super fun. So yeah, it was just like they had a system and they were not taking any like deviations from the system. It's like you got to play by it's sandwich and pay drinks and fries next. I don't remember if you paid separately for those two things or what, but it was. Oh man, it was so good I could you?

Speaker 1:

it's still the same. It has to be right. We go there. I think it's still. They've been doing it the exact same year way for 20 years. He's 20 years before that the exact same way.

Speaker 2:

That's amazing. So what's interesting? I think we said this the last time that we talked about cheesesteaks. We talked about cheesesteaks, but so we went to Pat's King of Steaks and I said here that it's the original place. Catty Corner from Pat's King of Steaks is Gino's Philly cheesesteaks Queen of Steaks. They also claim that they're the originals. They do.

Speaker 1:

And I kid you not.

Speaker 2:

They are just across the street from the other. Both claim it. We chose pats because pats was like a little just unassuming, like hot, like walk-up window, that's it. Geno's was like the full neon signs, like it was over the top, like it was definitely giving off the sort of atlantic city vibes which we're like not not into it. So we went with.

Speaker 1:

We went with pats do they both do the whiz?

Speaker 2:

I thought one of them didn't well, the place that we went to the the first time with um, yeah, a couple days prior, that that was. I don't know if they offered it, but we did provolone there for sure, okay, and so I was just wondering I think if you talk to people in Philly like they'll have pretty strong, like right. I think, like we said, like hey, that's a good, that's a good thing to pull out of your pocket. What kind of hey cheese steak do you go? Provolone or whips?

Speaker 1:

They cheese steak. Do you go provolone?

Speaker 2:

or whips. They'll have an opinion exactly they will.

Speaker 1:

Good conversation starter with somebody from philly. It's probably how you know if they're like a true philly person or not a true philly person they're probably.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think you'll know, because they will defend whatever their choice is. I'm sure it's very hard.

Speaker 1:

I would assume, I would assume.

Speaker 2:

But then it's also one of these things where you're like what say that?

Speaker 1:

What I said secretly? They'd probably get the other one every once in a while. Well, I do feel like the provolone today. What Don't Don't? Ah, I'm cheating on my cheese whiz with the provolone tonight.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's also the other thing. You're like oh, cheesesteaks, is it Pat's or Gino's, gino's, which one? And they're like yeah, I don't care, I go to this other place. It's actually way better. Exactly, and I think that's why we went to that other one and that other place, right, that's right.

Speaker 1:

They're not recommended to us by that guy. He's like this is one I like. Yeah, I was like okay, yeah, so they got their spots. Do you think cheesesteaks are you know? Are you know it's interesting with a food like that that's so specific to that area? Are you having it regularly? Or is it basically when you have friends in town like, okay, we have friends in town, we know we're gonna eat steaks this, you know, weekend. Or are you just randomly kind of like us in and out being like it's cheesesteak day? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

I, I, yeah, I guess it probably depends like we probably eat how early you want to die. It depends, right? Yeah, it's. Are you a? Are you a auto mechanic or?

Speaker 1:

an investment maker?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think that's a good question. I don't know. I mean in and out.

Speaker 1:

It's not fair because in and out, like we had, yeah you know, in birmingham I was gonna say show people around you go.

Speaker 1:

You go today, okay, you go in birmingham, we would show people around and we kind of had a tour. You know, we kind of like got into a pattern of like this is what we do and then this is the restaurant we take you to, because they have great cheese, biscuits and and it was wonderful. But I didn't find myself at those restaurants other times really, because it was like these are the special times yeah, I think that.

Speaker 2:

I think that probably is what it is yeah, I think like for us, we eat In-N-Out a lot, but we just really love hamburgers and like they. A cheesesteak is a heavy meal Like that's going to ruin you for a little while, like a hoagie full of just beef and cheese whiz. It's a little different than all beef patty, fresh lettuce, tomato, onions, special sauce. Yeah Double, doubles Great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great, yeah I. It's just it's interesting with those foods because it's so so specific to to what that is, and so you have to, like you know, buckle down. That's a good point.

Speaker 2:

You know what's interesting? I never really heard of this, but there's a show called the bear, which I know you watch I'm a bit behind on it still but they make the chicago beef right. Yeah, is that?

Speaker 1:

what they call it.

Speaker 2:

I think that, yeah, beef eater I don't know, but I I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's like a french dip or it's like a beef sandwich, so it might be something. So I don't know. It's like a beef sandwich, so it must be something. So I don't know if that's like the Chicago version of the. Yeah, do you want to hear one of?

Speaker 1:

my culinary theories in general. Yeah, of course I do. Thank you. I figured the answer would be yes. So I'm locked and loaded now. Yep, do it. Loaded now? Yep, do it.

Speaker 1:

Every culture seems to have the portable version of their like, entree or like their thing. So what I'm saying is, like you have the burrito, you can wrap it up, eat it one hand while you're working or take it somewhere. You know, we have the sandwich. Um, we have the euro, pita, right, um, it's, and it could just be that like bread and meat is a good combo.

Speaker 1:

But I feel like all of this developed from we need a food that you can grab and eat and like culturally so for you know, hundreds of years, at some point it's like no, that that's a sit down and like eat food. But we need something. How do we make it portable? Oh, tortilla, wrap it up, pita stuff, it, take it away. Bread, walk away. Like there has to. Like everybody has to have that version. Like what, if you're out all day and you need to take it with you, what are you bringing? Oh, a burrito. Oh, you're bringing a sandwich. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, so I just I just think it's. I put all of those in the same like category of like it's like a lifestyle. Like you, you need to take it with you and have it on the go, and so the egg roll okay, well, the egg roll, that's.

Speaker 2:

It may not be a good example of this I don't think this is a very good theory, or whatever you called it. I mean, I see where you're going, but like, all right, pretty self-explanatory. How many times do you like eating a road burrito? That is a especially for you. My friend like that is a. That is a recipe for disaster unless you have an, unless you have a change of clothes, that's a bad choice.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't need a burrito on the road, but don't you think that was the original burrito, the original burrito was to be taken.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have a point Like there's to-go food, like travelable food, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's all I'm saying. Yes, I agree that the burrito has developed into something now that if you take some of these burritos, that are probably the big one.

Speaker 2:

The big one.

Speaker 1:

If you take that, then which? If we have released or not released our natural disasters episode, you'll understand more of that reference. Yeah, the teaser, perhaps. If you take it, if you take that, then you're you're right, you're having a rough like afternoon or a rough rest of your drive. Yeah, okay, yeah, last question Okay, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2:

No, okay, go ahead Go ahead. You. Let me go first. This is. This is quick. It was just like a hack that I saw somebody do, where they took a burrito and it fit inside of like a Yeti mug perfectly, or like a Stanley or something, and because we just think of those mugs as keeping water cold, well, it also keeps a burrito warm.

Speaker 1:

What a great thought. That's a great thought.

Speaker 2:

And so she was. This person was snowboarding and she's like I make, I get a burrito, I put it in this thermos and then at lunchtime I pop out my hot burrito and I'm like that's amazing goodness.

Speaker 1:

That's a great thought, yeah it was worth it, huh thought, yeah, yeah, um, I someone did this just recently and they said they, they made it seem like everyone does this and to me it was absolutely a food hack. We got McDonald's drive-thru, we were going to a field trip and we had the chaperone, and so we jumped in the drive-thru and he bust open the McDonald's sandwich, threw the hash brown on top, closed it up and ate it that way, and I was like, of course, that's a great idea.

Speaker 1:

So, breakfast sandwich? Yeah course, that's a great idea. What is a breakfast?

Speaker 2:

sandwich.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a break, right, I mean it must be like, yeah, you don't do this, and I'm like, no, I've never thought of that. And he's like, oh yeah, this is a, this is the way I do it, and he made it seem like this is what other people do. Have you ever thought of that? Or? No, no, but of course, though right, but of course when he did it.

Speaker 2:

This is one of those like the scales fell off my eyes and now I can see yes, exactly, exactly and it's great, right, oh, that is good.

Speaker 1:

First of all, mcdonald's is superior with their breakfast. I think that's a pretty well regarded, but if you, if you're going to have fast food breakfast, go to McDonald's.

Speaker 2:

All of the Chick-fil-A biscuits. Oh yeah, that's pretty good, you're right.

Speaker 1:

But if you throw a couple of those little Chick-fil-A hash brown nuggets on there, that's not a bad decision. That's not a bad decision. Oh, we are hungry, I'm hungry. Oh, this is okay, here's my question okay here's my question for you, and then just quick road trip.

Speaker 2:

You have a lot of driving in front of you. You ought to make a fast food stop. What's the safest?

Speaker 1:

we've, we've already.

Speaker 2:

It's worth, it's worth saying again, but we covered this. I think many many uh weeks ago, yeah, when we were talking about how your acquaintance took you up north to buy your car. Oh yeah, it is the McDonald's hamburger. Yeah, the McDonald's cheeseburger. Okay, the McDonald's cheeseburger. That's right. It's just because we were talking about driving.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like you, don't stop at Taco Bell. That's a horrible choice.

Speaker 2:

This came up the other day. We were up in Northern California and heading home, and my wife's father was up there too, and we were talking about like, oh, what time are you leaving? He's like oh, I'm probably just going to grab something on the road to go. And we're like, and eat in the car. And he was talking about what he was going to get and we're like Clay, the most perfect road food is the McDonald's cheeseburger. Oh, he was getting nuggets and we're like no, it's the cheeseburger and he's like oh really.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, how are you dipping the sauce Are?

Speaker 1:

you dipping the sauce in the car and he's like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And we're like, hey, you gotta get the cheeseburgers.

Speaker 1:

It sits well. It's a perfect amount. It's not too much, it's not too little, it satisfies me. Satisfies me for a long time. Okay, go on.

Speaker 2:

All right, all right. So that was Cheesesteak Saturday. We left Atlantic City and went to First Street in Philly. First Street is where all the people our age hang out. Lots of odd shops, including one called the Condom Kingdom. Oh, everything from bachelorette party favors to nasty, dirty videos. Hey, fun fact, my youngest is home from school sick today, and she's about 10 feet behind me. So this is fun. Um, yeah, uh, earmuffs. I didn't say that. Um, it was a funny shop for sure. Um, yeah, gosh, we spent a few. We spent a few hours there, not at that shop, but on the street. Let me mind you. Okay, thank you, yeah. And then we drove back to the state of new jersey to look for a hotel. Remember, your brother-in-law was staying with him. We found a hotel, played some more Euchre and until tonight I was undefeated in Euchre, but I was dethroned by Scott and Hendy on this night.

Speaker 1:

Euchre, we played a lot of Euchre. We did play a lot of Euchre In general. On the trip Great game.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm impressed by myself because, uh, until the stop in Michigan where Uker was first introduced to me, I had never played it before. And so I am only a couple of weeks, maybe days, into my Uker capabilities and here I am and you're undefeated.

Speaker 1:

That's great. That's great, that's great. Once, once, we hang out with Ham Judy. In the future, though, you're going to get some uterless. Oh, I could.

Speaker 2:

I need a refresher. I got contentious.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about that in Florida. Oh, it's going to be exciting, but that is something to look forward to. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That, yeah, yeah, that's the end of the day. That's the end of the day there. Yep. So that part of the world listen I uh, philly cheesesteaks good, atlantic city bad bad. Philadelphia in general.

Speaker 1:

I best not comment, but not bad yeah, yeah, good, you know I'm, I'm pro, I'm pro I'll go back. I want to try the cheesesteak again and see if it's the same. Yeah, okay, I like that little corner. Can I just burn it? It's a little corner of the world.

Speaker 2:

It's a little corner of the PA Kind of. I wonder, if you were to present somebody a map of the United States without it labeled, do you think Pennsylvania is one of the states most people would get wrong, wrong, or, let me say this, not most people. Yeah, like if you were to rank which states people got wrong the most. I think.

Speaker 1:

Pennsylvania is probably. It gets confusing. It gets confusing in there. The only benefit it has is it does touch a great lake and so if you kind of know that, like it it sticks out a little bit it touches a great lake, eerie on the top of it. There, I think it's eerie, whichever one. If you drive over to the Buffalo, we drove over it, pennsylvania, I think. New York. New York sits on top of it, pennsylvania, and then butts up against Ohio right, and Ohio's under Michigan. Okay, so you would get it wrong.

Speaker 2:

That would make sense then this is why you think it would. I think I would not get it wrong just because, like, get it wrong, just because, like, if it was fill in the map, I would get it right because I would know enough of the surrounding area to then be like that must be pennsylvania okay if somebody were to be like well, I ain't point to that and be like name that what's? That maybe I'd still get it, but still I think I think most people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the places where people I think would mess up the most is, well, two places. One it gets crazy up in the Northeast where you drive through the states so you have to go is that Connecticut, delaware, rhode Island, like all of those can feel the same? Yeah, you have to start like figuring them out. And the other thing are the big squares in the middle Like is that Kansas, nebraska, iowa, south Dakota, north Dakota, wyoming, montana, kansas, nebraska, iowa, south Dakota.

Speaker 1:

North Dakota, Wyoming, Montana. You have to get a gauge for kind of like, where you are. Yeah, In order to. And, like I, when I do that I have to be like, oh right, we drove into Nebraska from Iowa, so we were. You know what? That's what I do to put those in order. Does the even I get jumbled up in there?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is probably one of these things, too, where it's like if you live in the East coast, on the East coast you're like I would never get Pennsylvania wrong, right.

Speaker 1:

But but yeah, here we are the ones I would say almost everybody in the world gets right away Texas and the world gets right away Texas and they assume the whole west coast is California because Texas, right, they assume the whole, everybody knows Texas yeah, everybody knows California, florida, florida, and then yeah probably Louisiana because of the Delta.

Speaker 2:

Nobody for that.

Speaker 1:

If you're just looking again, I'm just going with, I'm going with blank map. You're saving someone a piece of like eight and a half by eleven blank map. I think the do you got like weirdness down there? I don't think so, like I'm talking european. Even I think the europeans didn't. Florida, california, texas, oh sure, okay. And then most americans, I think, get michigan too, because it looks like a myth, it's so obvious yeah, I wonder we should.

Speaker 2:

We should do this as a oh, that's good to figure out how we quiz this or when we have guests or we just start, we throw it up.

Speaker 1:

We could throw up a blank map and say how many do you get right, like in a quick go through? I wonder what that number is. I wonder if it's 20 or if it's. Yeah, I agree with you, your your general area. We would get California, arizona, nevada, utah right away because boom, that's our side.

Speaker 2:

You grow up in.

Speaker 1:

New York you're like, of course.

Speaker 2:

But even West Virginia, Kentucky. It's almost 7, though.

Speaker 1:

What it's almost 7. Almost 7. West Virginia.

Speaker 2:

I thought you said almost 7.

Speaker 1:

I'm like no, it is.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy.

Speaker 1:

I'm like no, it is.

Speaker 2:

Oh boy, I missed dinner time. Oh dear.

Speaker 1:

No wonder I'm hungry. This makes sense, this makes sense. Why is that?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a bad wormhole when you skip a meal, the other day.

Speaker 1:

Pierce fell asleep the other day at like a weird time and then woke up at like 830. And she was just so tired. It was not a good thing, but I caught her sleeping like two hours in like what do you do now? And she woke up so confused so she's like did I sleep a whole day, you know? I thought, yeah, no, is it tomorrow, right? It's just like. She was just like yeah, you ever done that. Yeah, I have no idea what that that's funny mary did that just the other day.

Speaker 2:

She she woke up from something she goes. I was so confused I thought it was tomorrow. Like I, I really thought I slept the whole night all of a sudden nope 25 minutes, that's all we're all just sitting at the kitchen table. We're like we've been sitting here for hours.

Speaker 1:

We've been waiting for dinner.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because that's how old-timey we are Make us dinner.

Speaker 1:

Woman, I have my whiskey and my slippers Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Give me the paper dog. I'm not calling her a dog, I'm saying my dog.

Speaker 1:

I knew what you were my dog. I feel like. I feel like this episode should have ended at least five minutes ago thank you. This has been, this has been an episode this has been a time we should have ended a little bit earlier oh man, I had an episode during this episode. Luckily Mary doesn't listen to the podcast. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's no fear of her getting mad at me because she'd have to listen.

Speaker 1:

She'd have to listen first Say yeah, bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, thank you.