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Transformed by Truth: A Journey from Gender Confusion to Divine Purpose
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Join J. Anthony and Tiffany Gilbert in this latest discussion with Elder Sheeanda Charles as she shares her story from a lifestyle of gender confusion to being transformed by the power of God.
Sheeanda was the product of abuse that found Jesus Christ and is taking her story everywhere and declaring that if God can do it for her, He can do it for anyone.
what's going on. Everybody, we are back here at dimensions. We are so glad you all are with us. It's so good to be back.
Speaker 2It is good to be back. I am so looking forward to who we have on tonight. What I want all of you to do is take time to share it. We want to get this out, share it, you know, but before we kind of go into everything, you were doing some moves beforehand. Are you going to show everybody your moves?
Speaker 2you know, I can just rock from side to side you know, it's all good, but that's not the movement he was doing everybody. So we were having fun here before we kind of got started, but it is. It is good to be here. Remember everybody too. We are going forward this weekend in terms of our time, so remember to set your clocks ahead, you will lose an hour, but I'm happy that I'm going to see the sun a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1And Pastor Tiff's birthday is coming up on Sunday y'all, so we got to give a shout out to you. I mean hallelujah, it's all good. That's the wrong one, but it will never mind. I'm working on some new stuff here, but anyways.
Speaker 2We're working on some applause in the back. We just didn't get the applause. We got some other things going on, but hey, happy birthday to you.
Speaker 3Thank you, we're going to celebrate you this weekend.
Speaker 2You are my elder.
Speaker 1You will always be my elder. So I tell everybody that means she has to do what I tell her. So it's all good. I don't know about that, it's all good.
Speaker 2But yeah, but it is so awesome too. I feel blessed to have another birthday that I'm able to share it with, and share it with my family, and celebrate, and I thank God for that. Thank God for another awesome year. I believe 2025 is going to be our best year yet.
Speaker 1Happy birthday Pastor.
Speaker 2Tiff, I love it, I love it, I love it. And listen, don't forget to like, subscribe, follow, share.
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Speaker 1So don't forget to take a minute. You're going to be blessed by this and I'm real excited to get in on this, and so we want to bring our guests on here in just a moment because, you know, this is a subject that a lot of people don't understand. They understand, but they don't understand how it happens, what happens in people's lives, the struggle, all of those types of things, and we have someone here today that's really, I'd say, god's hand is on her life in a supernatural way. So we want to talk about the whole transgender piece and homosexuality, lesbianism, all those things, and there's a testimony from a great woman of God of how she's been totally redeemed and transformed, and you're not going to want to miss this. It's something that you know. What I think is amazing is this is that you know a lot of people. They say they're delivered and set free, but she don't look like what she's been through.
Speaker 2No, because if you remember, when we went down to Tampa, to their church, first of all, one church we love all of you. You guys have some of the best pastors. We're trying to get together with them and get our kids together. But when we went down there, you know it was amazing. I didn't know this woman in her testimony she, she, and you're so right. She does not look like what she's been through.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2You know and I love these stories, like what she's been through. You know and I love these stories. I love sharing these stories about the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. It's amazing how even you know, when you look back and you experience trauma in life, and how God can take that trauma and what he can turn it into the victory that you can get from that trauma once you get set free and made whole by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2So I have been waiting, waiting, since she has said yes. I have been so looking forward to bringing her on and having her share this testimony, this wonderful woman of God.
Speaker 1And listen. We got a bunch of people that are going to be coming up. We're going to be doing podcasts at least weekly. Sometimes it'll be both of us, it might be me, it might be Pastor Tiff, there might be other times throughout the week. So you're going to want to get in on this and please take a minute. Just take a moment. Make sure you like, subscribe, follow, share, do all that.
Introduction to Elder Shionda Charles
Speaker 2Help us to get this out here, I promise you you won an elder in the church. Her name is Elder Shionda Charles. She's an awesome woman of God. We have an opportunity to meet. What was it? When did we meet About a year and a half ago. Yeah, what do you think I would probably say close to?
Speaker 3join us tonight.
Speaker 2And, like I was telling you, you know the story and the victory that you are going to share tonight. I believe that, as people are watching, they are going to get set free by the power of the Holy Spirit tonight. So I am, I'm, I'm ready, I'm excited.
Speaker 1So, elder Shannon, it's so great to have you with us. We are honored and we just thank the Lord for you. So for everybody that don't know, this is a woman of God that I believe is on the uphill swing. Who you got there with you?
Speaker 2Yes, we want to know who she is.
Speaker 3This is Moriah hi how are you?
Speaker 1what's up?
Speaker 2I love your earphones. Can I borrow those, you'll kind? Of match my outfit? Yes, you would, that's right. So tell us a little bit about her, and you know how old she is and you know all that stuff.
Speaker 3Mariah is four years old. Four Awesome Practically since she was born. I like to say she was born before she was born.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3You know, the Lord deals with each and every one of us in different ways, and two weeks prior to her actually being born, I dreamed that I rescued a little girl from the hospital.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 3It was a very aggressive dream and I got the phone call that she was born. So I believe that she's a part of the making and God does things so well.
Speaker 2Amen, that is so true. And she's beautiful, looks like she has a lot of energy too. Oh, yes, she does.
Speaker 1So, shanna, let's get in on your story now. What's been happening in your world and tell us a little bit about before we get into that. Tell us about just your upbringing, where you're from, what you're all about. Give the people a little bit of insight to you.
Speaker 3First of all, I'll get there. I do want to give just a grateful thank you to you, Pastor Jay and Pastor Tiffany, for this wonderful opportunity. I feel woe to me if I don't share what God has done for me in my life. So thank you for this wonderful opportunity.
Speaker 2I know yes, for sure.
Speaker 3I want to shout out One Church Tampa, one Church Tampa, where my pastor and overseer is Liddell Cole and Pastor Tanya. So I want to talk to them. So let's get into it. Let's get into the question that you asked me. I grew up in Fort Pierce, florida. It's a very small town. I don't know if you've heard of it. It's a very small town. My mom, she actually birthed 11 kids. 11?, 11 kids.
Speaker 2Where are you in the 11? Number seven? Wow.
Speaker 3Okay, wow, there's nine of us that are living now. So growing up was fun. It was very interesting. Excuse me, okay, growing up was very interesting. Mariah has a lot to say.
Speaker 3I think she want to make a cameo. Growing up was very fun. It was very interesting. Mom did the best she could. She prayed to my father. However, he was murdered when I was a year old, so trauma, I believe, began there, but she did the best she could. She's an amazing woman of God. She taught us prayer, worship, and that's where my foundation came from.
Speaker 2So one of I just have to say this, one of 11, I was meeting with my family earlier today and there we were talking about 11, my dad went to 11. And it was so interesting because I said all I remember of my grandmother. She's a sweet lady, but a lot of what I remember of her was she was always in the kitchen cooking. So was that your mother too? Was she in the kitchen a lot?
Speaker 3Yeah, it was In the kitchen and working my oldest sister. She actually stepped up and did a lot of the mothering role because mom was working all the time and working my oldest sister. She actually stepped up and did a lot of the mothering role because mom was working all the time at cooking. So yeah, Okay, awesome.
Speaker 2Well, let's go right into this awesome testimony that you have and I'm going to let you kind of I want you to to walk us through this journey with you. I want you to, to let us know how this all started. So I'm going to let you have it and then I'll kind of we'll kind of interject and kind of ask questions, so you kind of start us off.
Speaker 3When I was, when I was about, I think I was in like the third grade that's when it was my first encounter with the opposite sex. I was molested by my grandfather and I think that was the introduction of trauma, the introduction of that dysfunction, that gender identity, um, not knowing who I was. Is this the way things are supposed to be? Is this the way, um, a man and a woman is supposed to encounter? Um, when I was um in the ninth grade, I was molested by a pastor, um, and at that point, I believe that's when I made the decision to actually embrace all those feelings. So yeah, ninth grade, I actually had my first girlfriend in ninth grade and I lived that lifestyle for a very long time.
Speaker 3But one question I do recall my very first girlfriend asking me. She asked me if she thought that I would be this way forever. Interesting, okay, it was very interesting. And I remember saying to her no. I said to her no. I had no idea what that no meant or when that no would take place, but I recall that question being asked and answering that question.
Speaker 1You know, shionda. Go back to what you said. You mentioned that you said you were molested at the age of three. Was that correct?
Speaker 3No, no, no, I believe I was like in the third grade. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1So third grade. And then you also said in what was the other time, there was twice no, and they're both males. Yeah, so what do you think brought about the desire then for the same sex? How did that come apart?
Speaker 3uh, come about for you um, I think it was those encounters, those things just being confused as to is this what love is supposed to look like? And you know how we're supposed to interact with the males, the opposite sex. So I believe that's where it all came from, that's where it's stemmed from.
Speaker 1Because you know it's really amazing. I have a background in mental health. I have a background also in alcohol and drug counseling and I've dealt with people that are heterosexual, homosexual, all of the above, and I didn't get a chance even to ask you that I didn't know about your story. But what's amazing to me is a lot of the people not all, but most that I've ever met that battle with any type of gender confusion or anything along that line. There was some sort of sexual perversion that happened earlier in their life and so somehow or another, when that seed gets planted, it begins to produce within us a form of there's a way to express that perversion that was performed in us. And so it's amazing how many women because I told Pastor Tim I said I'd love to be able to ask her was there any type of abuse? Because most of the time there's some form of abuse, which is one of the reasons why I'm going to kind of jump into this.
Speaker 1While people say I was born this way, and whenever I talk to a lot of people, there's some sort of dysfunction that happened in their life that brought this about in their life, that brought this about. So for you, looking back at that. Did you battle with that, thinking I was born that way? Or, and if you did, how did you navigate that? But then also, what would you say to people that say I was born that way?
Speaker 3For me personally, I've never battled with thinking or believing that I was born any way other than the way God created me. I've never once thought that. What I would say to those who feel that way one thing that God has always been dealing with me on is to never argue. Never argue if someone says they are born this way and, biblically speaking, he backed that up in his word that we were born in sin and shaped in iniquity. He said to never argue that. But he wanted us, he wanted me to understand that there was a formation prior to us being born. He said that we were actually formed before we were ever born.
Speaker 3So I've never battled with being born gay or born anything other than who God created me to be, and that's how I would minister to an individual that feel that they were born a particular way.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's good. I'm just going to go back a little bit, because one of the things that you said was you were molested by a pastor. Is that correct?
Speaker 3That is correct.
Speaker 2So I mean that's you know that's pretty heavy. So how you know, when you went through that experience, did that alter how you viewed those in church leadership, pastors and clergy? Did it have an effect on you?
Speaker 3I did absolutely. I didn't trust, and not just those in the church, I didn't trust anyone. Yeah, yeah, I believe that that was actually the first time that I felt like my trust had been taken advantage. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know the reason why I asked that too. You know, there's a friend of mine who she got molested by somebody in the church for a number of years and it really weighed heavy and actually she not only she didn't go away from the church, but she had more of an unhealthy relationship with that group. And so it does. It affects. How do you? You know what was? You know, as you are journeying through, journeying through this life, and you're experiencing and walking through all this trauma, you know what was the point that you kind of hit that brick wall and you said you know I got to do something different. What was the point that the Lord and I see you smiling as soon as you know because it is, you know, I think about the scripture who the son sets free is free. Indeed, there's a freedom. You know, when you are free, you know you're free. That's something that happens. You know what I mean.
The Turning Point of Transformation
Speaker 2I was telling a story the other day to somebody who was battling with something and for a long time Shionda in praying to the Lord and saying Lord, can you help me with this? I need help. You know I can't do this on my own. And there was a point. Long story short, there was a point that the Lord just set me free, and I remember I was at a point in my car, I was driving my car and it just hit me and I said I'm free. I was going to laugh and just rejoice because I said, oh my goodness, lord, you did it, I am free, I'm not battling with this anymore, I'm free. What was that point for you? That you said you know that a change started to happen, a change in your mindset, a change in your identity in Christ. Where did that start for you?
Speaker 3I believe it started back in 2020, 2012, actually 12. Just you know, god had did something in my life that led me into what I call a wilderness, and it's me, and I believe that was the beginning of him actually drawing me to him. The Bible says that no man comes to him unless he draws you, so he was drawing me to himself and expressing his love. He was expressing his love no matter how I looked, no matter what I felt like, no matter how bound I felt or saw myself. He was just telling me how much he loved me. I pursued, I pursued his love, but that actually big moment where I feel like I completely got set free was that moment. Um, I walked into the church that I'm now serving and, um, I walked in as masculine as I could ever, I believe, become, and the pastor he called me daughter Wow, called me daughter, and that broke something off of me, and I believe that that was the moment where everything started to shift.
Speaker 2So you know what? Can we bring up those pictures?
Speaker 1Yeah, while you're doing that, you know it's amazing that. Well, there you go. I mean, take us through this picture here. Show us, tell us a little bit about what you see on there. Shanda, Can you see it? You can't, Okay. Oh, you can't see it. Okay, Take us through it.
Speaker 3Okay, so what you're looking at is what you're looking at. I believe this is my left, that could be your right. On the left is a character that I had created named Tari, and Tari was created to protect that woman that broke free and was delivered on the right, which is Shion. That's what you're looking at.
Speaker 1How did you? Did you take hormones? Did you do because you're bigger than me? I was like man I wish I looked, I was like man, I was like, I was like you are huge. So you went weight building or bodybuilding.
Speaker 3I was a pro bodybuilder.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 3I got into bodybuilding back in 2012,. I believe I was just getting in it to just work out, just to exercise, just to feel good and look good. I never saw myself looking like that Wow. One thing the Lord told me is that the enemy will take you as far away from God as your ignorance will allow. I'm thinking I'm just getting into something fun, but he was really drawing me away from who God has created and formed me to be.
Speaker 1So you go to the ministry there at the time it was called Worship United. My good friend, pastor Liddell at the time, now overseer. He calls you up, calls you daughter. You know a lot of women would have struggled with that because there might have been a conflict because of the abuse that you experienced from a pastor. Did that play a role? Did you have trust issues and things along that line coming down the path because of that?
Speaker 3I did not. I did not. I really can't explain why I never walked away from God fully, really explain. I believe it's just the way God built me, just gave me a heart of grace and forgiveness, but I never harbored anything in my heart towards pastors or the church. Wow, but no.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I mean, that's awesome. I want to know too, like, can you talk a little bit about even just the stronghold and how you break out? Because it's a stronghold that you're in. You know what I mean? It's a demonic force, you know, trying to keep you in that place. How did you, what was the process that you walked along to kind of break free and break out of that? Because the reason why I'm asking that too is because there's people that are watching that they may not be struggling with homosexuality, but they may be struggling with drugs and alcohol, they may be struggling with depression, they may be struggling with anxiety. You know their stronghold, that the enemy has gripped his nasty claws in and he doesn't want to let them go. So how do you really you know what was your process, and then how would you encourage others to break free from that demonic stronghold?
Speaker 3Yeah, it was definitely a process. It happened overnight. Bible says that at the entrance of that word, bring its light yes, so my process was making sure that I was in the word, making sure I was constantly spending time with God and obeying the instructions that he was giving. Everybody's process is going to be different, but during the process the Lord will start speaking to you and telling you what you should be doing, and what you should be doing becomes a law, and that law is what you begin to live by. We can go extremely deep here at this point, but I'm going to try not to. But the strongholds are really just lies that we believe. Come on, that's right. The lies that we believe. And I like when I talk about my testimony and people think oh, you were delivered from the spirit of homosexuality. It's really delivered from the spirit of perversion.
Speaker 3The spirit of perversion, and that's where the stronghold begins. Believing a lie which makes everything perverted the truth. That's where the stronghold begins. We're leaving the lie which makes everything perverted the truth.
Speaker 2That's right. That's right. That's right. What did your family, you know, cause you're one of 11, correct, One of nine, nine currently. You know, when you were going through this process, what was the response of your family? I mean, did you grow up in church? Were you in church at all?
Speaker 3No, I did not grow up in church. I believe, and I was talking to my siblings in my office the other day. I did not grow up in church but we were brought up to believe in God, knowing who he was, who Jesus is and what he did for us. But I did not grow up in a church. I did not. But we knew and we had a foundation In response. I don't believe my family knew exactly how deep in sin I was. Wow, I don't believe they, you know, when they see pictures like what you just displayed there, believe they're taken back by it because it was never something that was presented to them. Wow.
Speaker 2Well, you know, it's amazing. I think, you know, when they get an opportunity to actually see those, it's an awesome opportunity. It's a great opportunity for you to even share the gospel to them, for you to even share about the transformative power of the Holy Spirit Because, you know, I'm sure maybe some of your family members you know needed to hear that or need to hear that. Maybe they're going through trauma and challenges in life, as we all do. You know, we all go through different challenges in life, but it's so refreshing to see right in front of your eyes somebody who is experienced the transformative power of the Holy Spirit and it's so drastic, you know, you can see it, it's so drastic.
Speaker 1So, yeah, Like we said before, you don't look like anything that you've been through and you know and I think that shows you the power of God If somebody were to look at you right now, they're not going to see Charlie. I mean, that shows you the power of God. I want to go a little bit deeper, though, in regards to you gave your life to the Lord. You come up to the altar. What was it like after Pastor Liddell led you to the Lord, and what was the process that they took you on? Now we'd love to do a part two. We haven't talked about that. They were supposed to be on with us, but they had to suddenly shift out. We'd love to have them on with it, but what was that process like? Because?
Speaker 1you know, some people get instantly delivered and there's other people that deliverance is a process and sanctification. I call it the difference between positional sanctification and progressive sanctification. Positional sanctification when we give our lives to the Lord, we're no more God's son or daughter than the day that we accepted him and that's when he took us out of the world. But the process that I think a lot of people miss in the body of Christ is the discipleship process, which is what is called. Progressive sanctification is when the world out of us. So the moment you got saved, you're on your way to heaven. Your sins are forgiven. This, that and the third. How was your progressive sanctification through the process? Did you have a girlfriend at the time? Did you have to let her go? Was there a breakup process? What was that like? Take a journey in how your pastor navigated you to where now, which we'll get into in a moment you're in ministry in an elder of a church.
Speaker 3Yeah, I did not have a girlfriend at the time that God had dealt with back in 2012,. Actually, no, I did not have a girlfriend at the time. It's funny because I was doing what I knew to do to walk with God.
Speaker 3However, I was still wearing the look and denying that lifestyle but still presenting it to people, if that makes sense. So when everything transpired at Worship United Church what was Worship United Church? And he called me daughter, I believe they just embraced me with so much love. They didn't touch me, they just embraced me with love and they just continued to love on me and they gave me the space and the grace to grow at God's pace. So it was never something that they were pushing me to do. They never asked me to change my clothes. They never asked me to stop doing this or stop doing that. They literally just loved on me to stop doing this or stop doing that. They literally just loved them. And where I wanted to serve I'm like on the cleaning ministry or just anything they allowed me to do that and allowed the word to get into my heart and allowed the Holy Spirit to do the training and the programming and the uprooting. They just continued to preach the truth.
Breaking Free from Spiritual Bondage
Speaker 2That's amazing, and I love what you mentioned about the love. Yeah, because the love of God is what the love of God can do. You know we have a pregnancy center and you know there's opportunities for us to be across from women that are hurting, that are struggling, and then, when we just show them the love of God, everything begins to melt. Things just begin to melt, right. I mean, the people that come in with the it looks like they have the hardest hearts they just melt, they just melt and it's the power of the Holy Spirit that is there. You know I, you know you, have beat this with the Lord's help, and so a lot of times I have seen, when we overcome something, the Lord will then trust us with people who are sometimes battling with the same stuff. Have you had that? Have you had an opportunity to minister to anybody that has, you know, been involved or involved in that type of perversion or, you know, heavy trauma? Have you had that yet, that opportunity yet?
Speaker 3I believe I've had several opportunities and they're actually increasing day by day.
Speaker 2Well, they're coming. There's more that's coming there. Yeah, that's awesome. So tell me a little bit about that. Like what, how has that been? You know that. You know now that you're on the other side, you know of things, I think, helping people understand that it is a process.
Speaker 3It is a process and the process is a process of, as he mentioned, sanctification. It's not a process of death. Someone asked me something about how, and I immediately answered and I said you practice dying daily? How? And I immediately answered and I said you practice dying daily, literally practice dying daily, and it's just. You just got to go through the process.
Speaker 2You do and you know I always tell people I wish there was like another way out. You know that you don't have to go through. You know you could just kind of skip over everything, but you know there's no. You just you have to go through the process. You have to yield to the Lord, you know. But once your process, once you come out and you do it God's way, you are so strong. You know you are really strong and I believe it's not. You know what we go through. I always say this what we go through in life, it's not just about us Because we think, oh, it's just about me and I'm going through this, and I'm going through that and this and that, but it's about all those in your sphere that you're going to affect. I see you affecting so many, not just even in your sphere, in Tampa. Have you always lived in Tampa?
Speaker 3No, I actually, before I got to Tampa, I was in Orlando.
Speaker 2Orlando Wow, okay, yeah, but I just see you just expanding your ministry, expanding. I just see you just expanding your ministry, expanding your influence, expanding your effects, expanding. People need to hear this, and it's not just about the homosexual piece. But people are stricken Shiana and you know this with trauma and are stuck in their trauma. You know somebody, I was talking with somebody the other day and they were saying how it was so interesting. They were saying how that when they grew up, the things that they experienced in life it was trauma, but they didn't categorize it as trauma because they thought it was just normal. Wow, you know, they didn't look at it that way, but God wants to set everybody free.
Speaker 3He does, and I love that you keep honing in on it. It's not just homosexuality, that's right. Bondage is bondage, come on, that's right. And in the same power that set me free, it's going to be the exact same power that sets anyone that's bound to pornography or drugs or alcohol, whatever it may be. It's not just sexuality. There are people that need to be set free, and there's also people that want to be set free. Same power. It's the same power, same power.
Speaker 1It's the same power. I really believe that. I gave you a word when I was down there in Tampa that I saw you going in and I said that people are going to be delivered. Just when you walked into the room, I said I think I used the word that the demonic spirits were going to be scared. That's what was going to happen to people because of the power of God.
Speaker 1But, to your point, I don't think it's just going to be dealing with transgender, homosexuality, lesbian, that I believe that you're going to walk in a deliverance ministry that you're probably already operating. One of the things I want to mention as well is when those, do those devils, ever knock back on your door, and what I mean by that is try to come back and say I still own you. And the reason why I say that? Because you have a very unique experience. You're like I was pretty much walking, I got free, I've been walking in freedom. There may be somebody out there right now that's going to be watching this. They're in church, but they're battling still with this. How do you navigate? You said you die daily, but give us practical ways on how somebody that may be battling with some form of bondage, what do they need to do to continue to keep walking in freedom? How have you been preserved by God's word and presence?
Speaker 3That's a really good question and, to be as practical as I could be is every day we get a choice to offer up ourselves to somebody. Every day we get a choice and it's just making that decision. Okay, god, I'm going to walk with you, I'm going to say yes to you. I'm not going to do what my flesh is craving. And the minute you continue to do that, day by day, by day, those cravings, you're going to have the strength to say no. You're going to have the strength to say no. You're going to have the boldness to say no. So it's just constantly just maneuvering and focusing on God and walking with him every single day, being honest with yourself, getting you an accountability partner yeah, you know that's good Elder, because I believe this the longer you stay away from sin, the further away it becomes.
Speaker 2That's right.
Speaker 1And whatever. We always crave what we invite into our lives. So if you invite things into your world and things like that, I think that's the whole process of sanctification, what happens? We get into a point in our lives where we are feeding our flesh different things. So if you come out of a certain lifestyle, you know I'm going to say this real quickly because I think a lot of times people that are battling with bondages they don't understand the bondage always deals in the arena of the flesh and you have to figure out where you've been feeding that area. Sometimes it's movies, Sometimes we watch, Sometimes it's relationships, Sometimes it's relationships. I mean, the list can go on and on and on Even our thinking.
Speaker 1Our thinking. But the things that we think are by the things that we put into us.
Speaker 2That's right, that's right and so it's funny.
Speaker 1When I was in the addiction world and doing counseling, they always say you have to change your people, your places and your things. We always crave whatever we've been feeding into our lives, and so I think it's so important that people understand you have to completely renew your mind. I love what you said about accountability. You've got to have accountability in your life. That is huge. You've got to confess your faults one to another. You can't battle by yourself. There's a lot of things that you have to do in order to get through that, and to that you say Absolutely.
Speaker 3And discipleship. You touched on that. Yeah, Got to do life with people. You got to do life with people and let people in on your business. If you're dealing and struggling with something, allow them to help you walk through life. You know, I think a lot of times and one thing, that the church is probably missing, and I don't just blame the church. A lot of people love their privacy. Allow someone in, then how can the church help you? You know it takes a partnership, so allow people to be in your space, allow people to be in your business and just walk with them through life.
Speaker 1How do you get to find people that you trust?
Speaker 3Oh, 100%, that is huge, you can't get open something like that on Front Street you know Facebook, youtube you're putting everything out there Some of us.
Speaker 2We talk too much. Sometimes it's TMI you can have TMI, even when it comes to accountability. That may be a syndrome, tmi syndrome.
Speaker 1You don't talk way too much, too much, but some people. I was just talking to a person just yesterday and this individual was telling me about how they're working on opening up more and they said I'm a very private person and it's very difficult for me, but remember this, ladies and gentlemen, those of you that are listening whatever you keep secret, you give it power over you. That always isolates and then he annihilates, and that's the reason why Jesus left the 90 and the nine to go after the one.
Speaker 1He was so secure in the unity amongst the 90 and nine that they would be taken care of, because the wolf never comes after the pack. No, that's right, it goes after the stray, so good. And so it's very important. If you're battling with something, you've got to be discipled, and I think that is so lost. Elder Shionda, matter of fact, I know your pastor very well. I've known him for 25 years, overseer Liddell Cole. He just came and tore it up at our church and he's the great man of God and his passion, just like ours, is really, really realizing. People need to be discipled.
Speaker 1Church is not a weekly fix that you have. You come on Sunday, you get fixed. You need to get to a point where you're not reflecting the house, but you possess the house. You don't want to reflect atmospheres, which means you have it and you just got a little bit of this atmosphere, and I'm going to take it for a little bit. You want to possess the atmosphere that, wherever you go, you can see things changed in your world, and that's why I think discipleship is so important, because if you don't have people discipling you, you're not going to grow and develop. So was there one person in particular, elder Shonda, that you guys that kind of poured into you? Was it Pastor Liddell and Pastor Tanya, or were there other people that really walked you through that journey?
Speaker 3Yeah, there was this one woman in Orlando Her name is, I call her Mama Dot. She introduced me to discipleship and still to this day it's been probably about eight years, and she still sends me text messages and scriptures. Wow, and she was one of my pastors overseer Lathiel Asatani, she was one. I have another really good friend, pernisa. Just the church in a whole, just the whole, just making yourself available and the church will actually serve you, and that was a form of discipleship for me.
Speaker 1Amen. Well, tell us a little about what's going on in your life now. I mean, you've come through this. You're now an elder of the church. That just happened, I believe in the last year or so, and you just got back from Turks and Caicos. Tell everybody now the glory. We've seen the story behind the glory, but let's see the glory that's been fallen in your life now.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's been so much. I mean I have one single out. It's called Free Indeed. I always tell people that you know, when God sets you free, it does something for you. He puts us up, he gives you an anthem. So I have people that's out. There's more music that's going to be coming out. There's a book that's going to be released this year Come on, I'm so excited for that. And just ministry engagements, just going out and sharing. Where do we get Free?
Ministry and Future Calling
Speaker 1Indeed at. I'm sorry, when do we get Free Indeed at? Is that on Apple iTunes? Where do we get it?
Speaker 3Free Indeed is on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, all streaming platforms.
Speaker 2That's awesome. Well, you know what I want? To make sure that you have an opportunity to even speak directly to the people that are watching right now, because there might be some people that are watching that they are stuck. They're stuck in their junk, they're stuck in their past. They may be in bondage as it relates to maybe homosexuality, maybe depression, whatever it may be. Can you and some of these people may say I don't know, I've been in this for years, I don't know how to get out. What are some things that you could tell them right now to start doing in their lives so that they can start that process towards freedom?
Speaker 3Believe that Jesus loves you, believe that you know I feel like a lot of people don't really believe that when they're in their bondage Believe that he loves you and also believe that he loves you enough not to keep you where you are and trust his judgment, trust his chastisement, trust the process that he's taking you through, that he loves you and understanding that there's no love without truth, you cannot separate the truth. So when, when, when, um, someone who is is walking with God comes and presents the truth, know that it's love, know that that's the love of God and just embrace it. Embrace his love.
Speaker 1Amen, amen. Well, you know, I have another question. I got another question for you Okay. I'm going to throw something out here, a little curveball. I'm going to get up in your business now.
Speaker 2I think I know where you're going. I think I know where he's going too.
Speaker 1I want to know.
Speaker 2See, he didn't tell me about the curveball.
Speaker 1I didn't know about the curveball. I want to know is there a future family that you want to have? Do you have your eye on anybody in this season?
Speaker 2What's the Lord speaking to you? Do they have their eye?
Speaker 1on, Come on somebody.
Speaker 2That's right.
Speaker 3Is there a future family that I desire? Yes, absolutely. Do I have my eye on someone?
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Does anybody got their eye on you? Uh-oh, you asked. Well, I don't know, she might not want to go there yet.
Speaker 1You want to go there, yet you don't want to go there yet.
Speaker 1She's not ready to go down that road yet, everybody, well listen let me say this, though, one of the things I do believe for people that are watching we are huge on people finding the person that God has for them. Let me say this to you, shanda, and I want to get your thoughts on this. I was going to go down another path. Do you think that many times, the devil brings a spirit of perversion into a person's life because he doesn't want them to multiply?
Speaker 1That's good, Because what happens the spiritual lineage that was flowing through a person's life. He can annihilate that because they can't reproduce. Two men, two women can't reproduce. So do you believe that the devil uses that in order to stop the genealogy of the spiritual blessing that comes to a family?
Speaker 3Absolutely, absolutely. But one thing I do want to not so much combat that with is you're going to produce something and you're going to reproduce something, right, whether you're reproducing what God originally wanted you to reproduce or whether you're reproducing something based off the lie. You believe, but you're going to produce something. But I do believe that the enemy does get involved in that area of people's own sexuality to prevent that, because in that multiply the way God wanted you to multiply, you want to be fruitful.
Speaker 1Are you going to pass on your devils or your blessings? One of the things that you've done? You have broken generational things, man, and that is so powerful. But I'm going to be believing God and I want to go back to what I was saying, because you and I have an affinity that we love matchmaking.
Speaker 2We love getting people connected. We do elders Yonda.
Speaker 1We waited so long, y'all I mean man, I was out there, tumbleweed, you know, for about 12 years, of them things and finally God hooked me up with this fine Holy Ghost, hot mama, right here. If you want another Lord, he will strengthen your heart. But it took a while, and so we always like to. So I'm always people like yourself and there's so many others that we connect with that we just believe are such a great man or woman of God and just have so much of it, so powerful of anointing upon them. We love to see people get connected, so I couldn't wait. She didn't know we were going to ask that. I couldn't wait to ask, but I know God has somebody special for you.
Speaker 2And while you're growing.
Speaker 1God's preparing him and then we want to invite to that day because we want to come down and celebrate and one of the things about us we always give great wedding presents, hallelujah.
Speaker 2So you got that coming. You know what I wanted to mention to you. I heard and you tell me this is true that you were nominated for the Tampa Bay Gospel Awards.
Speaker 3I was yes, I was.
Speaker 2What an accomplishment.
Speaker 3Yes, I was what an accomplishment. Yes, it was a great accomplishment.
Speaker 2Yes, how did that happen? Honestly?
Speaker 3I don't know how it happened. I got the phone call, I got the email. I'm like wow, wow.
Speaker 2That's great. I cannot wait to hear all the anointed music that is going to come out of you, that God's just going to breathe into you, that you're going to write and put those things on paper and we're going to be playing them in our worship services. So I am excited. So let us know when you start dropping these things. Let us know, you know, so we can buy them and support. And, you know, do whatever we can to support you.
Speaker 3Amen, amen, and I can't wait to come out to Pittsburgh and just fellowship with you guys.
Speaker 1Oh, come on somebody. Come on Now listen, pittsburgh I need y'all to put that in the chat. Now listen. Pittsburgh. I need y'all to put that in the chat. Do y'all want Elder Sheanda here? I need to hear from y'all right now. Facebook, youtube, all y'all, hit us up and let us know you want Elder Sheanda.
Speaker 2That's right. Now I will say this Listen, you come anytime you want the next couple of days, actually the next week or so, because it's going to be really nice. It's going to be like 65, 64 degrees.
Speaker 1So you have a cold in her, is that really? Yeah, they don't want no 65 degree weather. Oh, 80 and 90 degrees.
Speaker 2Yeah Well, in the winter, though right In the winter, you guys are, I think.
Speaker 1Yeah, but what was y'all's weather today, elder?
Speaker 3Our weather was Ooh, it's pretty low here. For us it's about 63.
Speaker 1Hello, 63 or below.
Speaker 2It's all about perspective.
Speaker 1That's it, no doubt.
Speaker 2Yeah, 65. We are so excited because next week is going to be 65.
Speaker 1Yeah, almost 70.
Speaker 2So we're just excited, you know. I mean we were in the negatives there for a little bit, but we got out and I'm ready for us to get permanently. Yeah, no doubt Out of the cold weather.
Speaker 1We know Elder. Honestly, we would love and I know I'm putting you on the spot here, we'd love to get you and your pastors on. We knew they couldn't come. We'd love to have you back for part two let's try to work that out because I'd like to hear a little bit more about your story and then I'd also like to hear their perspectives as pastors, because I'd like to go in. We'd like to go in.
Embracing Your True Identity
Speaker 1We'd like to go into a little bit more on how did they pastor you and just kind of what their perspective was and you were walking through it. But you know, there's nothing greater as a pastor. When you see someone that's come out of the world and out of a bondage and you watch their maturation. I mean it's just one of the most beautiful things. And while people are in it, they feel like they're not making any progress. Here's the picture again of where you were in 2012 and where you are now. It's like wow. I mean, that's what happens to a lot of people in their spirits. Sometimes you can't see that, but once the inner is developed the outer begins to develop as well.
Speaker 1So I mean, what a transformation that God has done. Now, like I said, not only are you doing music, you're leading worship at your church. You just got back from the Turks and Caicos and did a revival over there. It's just amazing to see what God's been doing.
Speaker 2It is awesome. Well, I'm looking at these pictures again.
Speaker 1We didn't show those yet.
Speaker 2Yeah, we brought up another picture there, side by side, and it's just amazing.
Speaker 3Sometimes I just look at them or look in the mirror and I just wonder.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 3And I God how?
Speaker 2Well it is. But when you look at that, you know, when I look at those pictures, I think immediately that what comes to mind is all things are possible through.
Speaker 1Christ.
Speaker 2All things. You know what I mean. So when you look at that and you're battling with something you know, I can look at that and I can say, wow, god did that for her. He could surely do what I need him to do in this circumstance.
Speaker 3Absolutely, you know, with partiality in God, yes, he can do it.
Speaker 2That's right. That's right. So you know everybody. I just want you to be encouraged. You know those of you who are watching. You've heard her story and you're in a situation where you feel like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You feel like you're in quicksand. You can't get out. You're fighting the same battles. It seems like, well no, when you hear her as you have been listening to her story you can rest assured that all things are possible for God. I mean all things. It's not just some things, it's all things are possible with God.
Speaker 3So yeah, you just said a couple of times when you hear her, when you hear her, that bubbled up in my spirit.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 3Because that was something that the enemy was trying to destroy. That's her.
Speaker 2The identity, your identity in Christ, you destroy. That's her, the identity, your identity in Christ. You know it's amazing your name has she and he in it. You know, ain't that something.
Speaker 1So listen every day that when you're growing up, she and her I mean there's she every single day.
Speaker 3But it's funny, though I never liked it Really I did not like to hear she and though I never liked it.
Speaker 1Really.
Speaker 3I did not like to hear Shionda. I didn't like to hear it. Why is that the strongholds?
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 3It wasn't a nice name. I thought it was a very ugly name.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 1Wow, it's amazing.
Speaker 3It wasn't until one day I was sharing my testimony at one church and the Lord opened up my eyes and he said this is what he was trying to destroy she, Wow.
Speaker 2That is so good.
Speaker 3Yeah, so that really blessed me. That was an awesome revelation he gave me. Let me hear you.
Speaker 1No, no no, no, I got. I'm going to put you out there. On blast, I'm going to put myself out there.
Speaker 2Now I'm really scared because he's looking at me and I don't know.
Speaker 1No, no, I'm just saying I put out there because you know it's funny that you mentioned how you didn't like certain things about yourself dealing with identity. When I grew up I battled between. I grew up in the 80s, I was an 80s person in the 90s but I graduated in 95. And back then, you know, being black was the thing to be. So I was always mixed. But I grew up with black people white. There weren't a lot of mixed kids and so I remember I was. I wasn't black enough for the black people and I wasn't white enough for the white people, so my hair wouldn't tighten up so I couldn't do the Gumby's right, my Gumby kind of like look a little retarded because it was mentally handicapped, because it wouldn't land right because I had all these wavy curls right. So I always hated that.
Speaker 2Wait, wait, wait. What's a?
Speaker 1Gumby. You don't remember the Gumby Kyle. You remember the Gumby Shanda.
Speaker 2I do. What is the Gumby? What is the Gumby?
Speaker 1Remember we had the slope like this that's called the. Gumby. Yeah, the Bobby Brown, I didn't know that. Remember, gumby Remember.
Speaker 2Gumby the cartoon guy. All these years I never knew it was called the Gumby.
Speaker 1Okay, but this is the thing, so I had the Gumby and I couldn't do all of that, and then with the white people, I wasn't white enough yeah hair and all that stuff. You know, what I didn't realize, shionda, is I had the best of both worlds. People were trying to get brighter, and white people trying to get darker, white people to relax their hair, white people trying to perm their hair. I did it all and by the time I finally understood, I started losing it. Oh my god.
Speaker 2then I started losing my hair, but you know you can.
Speaker 1I'm still good. Yeah, I'm still good, but I mean I didn't realize what I had. Now, one last thing. I remember when I was in college and I never showed this with Pastor Liddell but I remember there was a kid named Jeremy Brown that I went with and people say why do you go by Jay Anthony? I never liked my name. A lot of people don't know that I was Jay Gilbert, I just never liked it. And then one time he said this dude, I was in the car. I remember we were right in front of the dormitory in college and this kid said yo, what's your middle name? And I said Anthony. He said Jay Anthony Gilbert. That sounds like a bishop. And then you know what? It's amazing, shonda. One person can share one thing in your life and change your whole perspective.
Speaker 1Liddell shared with you, daughter, and that changed everything.
Speaker 1One person shared one thing with me, and it changed everything about my life. And so you know I don't know who's watching this, but sometimes you're one revelation away from breakthrough. You're one revelation away from seeing the blessing of the Lord. You're one sometimes, the very thing that we are in possession of it's not that we don't have something of value, we just don't see it as valuable, and so, as a result, we discredit and discount and abuse even what we have not understanding. We are in total possession of some supernatural. So, shienda, I didn't want to leave you out there and make it seem like, hey, you're the only one.
Speaker 2I had some things in my life that show me that I finally started liking me Absolutely. You know, I just you know. I think this is a great opportunity for you, shienda, just to share, maybe take a minute, just to minister to the people that are watching. If you could just do that, you know you are anointed, you are anointed musician, woman of God. Minister, just take time, just a little bit of time, just a minister to the people and encourage them. Can you do that just really quick?
Speaker 3Yeah, absolutely. So, those that are watching or those that may listen to the replay. My biggest thing is to understand that God loves you. Understand that he called you. Understand that when he formed you he did not make a mistake. Understand that when he did those things he knew your purpose and he wants to bring you into a relationship with him. And as he brings you into that relationship, he's going to open up your eyes, open up your mind and open up your understanding to see that his ways are not just right, but they're also pure and they're for your good. So just embrace his love and walk with him, Listen to him, Obey him and just receive all that he has for you. It's going to be beautiful. Everything he does is marvelous. Just take a moment and to just embrace him, Embrace his love and trust that all things he will cause to work together for your good.
Speaker 2Amen, that's one of my favorite scriptures Romans 8, 28, because it's so true and I've seen it in my life time and time and time again. So thank you so much for that.
Speaker 1Amen. Well, elder Sean, we so appreciate you. Thank you for hanging out with us here on Dimensions and we'll look forward to having you back again with greater testimonies, and we're going to get your pastors connected. Look forward to having you back again with greater testimonies and we're going to get your pastors connected and we're going to come back here and have a little bit more conversation on what God doing in all of our lives.
Speaker 3Absolutely. Thank you so much for this awesome opportunity. There's so much more to share and I know we'll get to it.
Speaker 2We will, we will, we will. We're waiting in Pittsburgh for you.
Speaker 1Come on up, we can do it, live God. Bless you, bless you, thank you. You know, one of the things I think is real important, as we were talking there, that I want to take a minute and talk to people about embracing who you are as a person. The greatest revelation that you will ever get is what makes you unique. But the thing about it, what makes you unique is also what makes you lonely, because uniqueness means there's not many of you and the devil always wants you to hate. What god gave you. That makes you special makes unique. That's why I kind of opened up about my process, not no, like when I was, uh, growing up too, like I always had a, a knack for fashion yeah, still to this day, and I remember like I always wore shiny, shiny suits and all that back in the day and you still kind of have one of those shiny, shiny shirts.
Speaker 1And I wear bling and a lot of people when I was younger they would say why do you wear this? Are you trying to attract attention to yourself? And sometimes your revelation can come from. It doesn't have to come from you, it's not going to come from somebody else. It was actually Joyce Meyer that actually shared this. One time. She said you know what A lot of people used to get on me. That's what she was saying about wearing a lot of stuff that she wore and she said the Lord just began to take her through a process. And then one day she said you know what I wear these things because I like them.
Speaker 3Like. I like shiny things.
Speaker 1I like bling. I told my wife I mean, a lot of guys get a plain band wasn't me, but that's what makes me me and I want to encourage everybody out there that you embrace who you are and what probably who you are when you're most valuable is the thing the devil's been trying to destroy your whole life.
Speaker 1It's the part of you that he's always picking on, the part that tried to beat you down. You are already in possession of what God has given to you. You already have it within you. The problem is is you don't know it yourself, but when you start realizing the unique essence of who you are, the intrinsic value of what God has put inside of you, nothing can be, you know, like, even for me, like I'm very good extemporaneous.
Speaker 3I can just flow.
Speaker 1You can turn on a camera and I can just go. You put me in front of a microphone, I can just flow. You know a lot of people won't embrace who they are and I've learned that's what makes me me, what makes me necessary. That's right. My prayer for you today is that you will find out what makes you necessary. That's right. It's not the fact if you open up a business, open up a church or you can sing a song there's a lot of people that can sing a song. There's a lot of businesses out there. What is it that God gave you and this is for somebody right now what is it that God gave you that makes you necessary?
Speaker 2That's right.
Speaker 1Why should they hear your song? Why should they listen to you preach? Why should they go to your business? What do they get? That's why every great business has a tagline they have something Mercedes was the pursuit of excellence. Burger King was what? Is it your way, right away.
Speaker 2And now it's your rule Now it's your rule.
Speaker 1They've changed it a couple of times, but everybody has something that makes them necessary, necessary. Our prayer for you right now is that you would find out what makes you necessary. She, anda, had her name the whole time, but it took a revelation for god to show her who was for her to embrace that. So the devil wants you to embrace something that's perverted. He wants you to embrace abuse. He wants you to embrace the things that are wrong with you he wants you to embrace. Well, why did everybody always do me wrong? I went through this as a child and I didn't have this and this person didn't love me and my daddy left me and my mama beat my dad and my dad beat my mom and this happened and I was abused and all these things. And so the devil wants you to latch on to everything that's wrong with you.
Speaker 1What today is God saying is right about you?
Speaker 1And I just want to take a minute and we're going to pray in just a moment because we want to pray that God will begin to open your eyes to see the unique existence of why you are who you are, why you've been under attack your whole life, why the devil's been coming at you from the north, the south, the east and the west, because tonight, in the name of Jesus, we declare that that is broken off of your life, that that bondage is broken, those lies are broken, in the name of Jesus, that you will no longer take a hold of that.
Finding What Makes You Necessary
Speaker 1But, father, from this day forward, that they would open up their eyes, their eyes would be open to know the hope of the calling that you have for them. And, father, god, we pray right now that every lie would be uprooted and that, from this day forward, the revelation of God, the truth, lord of your word, would come alive inside of them and they would see the unique existence of who they are. Father, even as Elder Shonda mentioned, before they were formed in their mother's womb, you knew them and approved them and ordained them. And so, father, god, we release your blessing upon every person that's watching and listening right now and we declare the blessing of Almighty God to be upon them that they would know who they are and know the hope of the calling that you have for them. Father and Lord, we thank you and we give you the praise, the honor and all of the glory in Jesus' name, amen amen, name, amen, amen.
Speaker 2That is so good. It's so important to know who you are and whose you are. You know, I took I don't know if you were like me, I hope so, but I took some notes. She said some really, really good things that I wrote down, you know, and I just want to recap.
Speaker 1She said believe that Jesus loves you.
Speaker 2It is so important to just receive the love of God. It's amazing how the love of God will transform and renew your life in a mighty way. And she said that and know that he loves you so much not to leave you there, and that's so, so, so true, and you're going to produce something. So let's concentrate on the things that are going to produce kingdom fruit in our life. Remember, it's not just about us, but it's about the generations that are coming. It's about those in our sphere that we have an opportunity to influence. It's just so good, that is real good, and there were some great points to take.
Speaker 1That's the thing on dimensions. You're always going to get something to take with you. You're going to have some handles to some things that God's going to speak to you and even through you, to others. So he's giving you stuff that he can speak through you and to you and through you so other people can be blessed as well, and so we hope that you've been blessed today by this. Once again, take a moment to like, subscribe, follow, share.
Speaker 1It's been such a great time ministering and you know I really believe there's a lot of people out there that God wants you to know who you are. You got to know who you are beyond a shadow of a doubt. Think about it the number one thing that Jesus was attacked with in the time of the wilderness was his identity, the number one thing that God gave him when he was getting baptized. When he came up, he said this is my beloved son and whom I'm well pleased. Why, before he ever worked a miracle, before he ever walked on, water multiplied the loaves and the fishes raise anybody from the dead. God says I like you just the way you are. We want you to realize right now God loves you just the way you are. You are formed just the way. You don't need to look like nobody else. You don't need to talk like nobody else.
Speaker 2You don't need to preach like nobody else Can't nobody beat you at being you.
Speaker 1Be the best you, you, you can be, and because you're the only one. There ain't nobody on this planet that can be you. There ain't nobody on the planet that can do what you do, like you do, because everything you touch, even your fingerprint, leaves an impression that nobody else has, and so we want you to understand today that God loves you.
Speaker 1He's approved of you, he's ordained you. Embrace who you are. Don't embrace the lies of the enemy. He always wants to pervert what it is that you are and the very thing that God has given to you. The devil wants you to believe it's a lie. He wants you to believe it's less than so. Go get them. I believe that there are people right now being empowered that are going to be blessed to walk in their destiny.
Speaker 2Amen. Come on, Amen and remember don't hold on. You said it and it was so good. Don't hold on to the seeds that the enemy has placed in your mind. A lot of times the enemy will place seeds in your mind and you're thinking those are your thoughts. Those aren't your thoughts. Those aren't your seeds. Those are the enemy's seeds that he wants you to take hold of. So make sure that, as you're moving forward, that you take hold of the word of God. There is power in his word, that you spend that time with him, that you make him a priority. Listen, we need to be Matthew 6, 33 people. I always say it, but it's so important we need to seek Him first. Seek His kingdom, His righteousness, and then all these other things will be added. We don't need to worry about anything else. They're going to be added. We just need to seek Him first. So if you're struggling in any area, if you're hitting that quicksand in life, start seeking Him. Just putting Him first, if you're not doing that already, and watch what will happen in your life.
Speaker 1Amen, amen. We have been visited by the Lord tonight. I believe there's some revelation and prophetic insight that's going out just for you. So take a minute once again to like, subscribe, follow, share. We're going to be back here next Friday, 8 pm, if not sooner. We'll let you know. That's why you got to follow with us, because you never know when we're going to be back here live. Something could happen supernatural or something could happen that's catastrophic, and we want to get out and talk about it.
Speaker 1We're going to come to you at least weekly, if not more.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I am really looking forward to the guests that we have coming up. There's some awesome guests. We guests that we have coming up. There's some awesome guests. We're going to be talking about deliverance. We're going to be talking about marriage, revival sex in a godly marriage. I mentioned that, yes, so you know we're going to love the guests that we have for these.
Speaker 1We've already got them booked where they're coming up and we're going to have a whole lot of shows. There may be times you and I just get on here, but we really feel like God wants us to begin to do some more ministry together, in a greater light, and just bring practical things that are happening. Speaking about things, I'd like to come on here soon and talk about President Trump's address that he just had. I didn't get a chance to go on that tonight, but there'll be some other opportunities for that. So, like I said, we got a whole lot more coming up, got a whole lot more guests, and it's going to be really, really great. So let everybody know that Dimensions is here to stay, and God bless you. Thank you.
