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Breaking Free: Deliverance and Inner Healing Demystified with Dr. Connie Brooks
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Dr. Connie Brooks breaks down the misconceptions around deliverance ministry and demonstrates how Christians can experience complete freedom from generational curses, demonic oppression, and emotional wounds.
• Deliverance and healing are not the same thing - deliverance specifically addresses demonic influences while healing addresses wounds
• Christians can experience demonic oppression and even possession from influences that existed before conversion
• Deliverance ministry operates in four areas: inner healing, addressing demonic strongholds, physical healing, and emotional wounds
• Many people confuse needing discipleship with needing deliverance - those needing discipleship often struggle with offense rather than demonic influence
• Generational curses and "familiar spirits" can be passed through bloodlines and manifest even in Christian homes
• Deliverance can happen instantly in some cases, but often requires a process that unfolds in layers like peeling an onion
• Many emotional issues have spiritual roots that counseling alone cannot address
Make sure you subscribe, follow and share because we've got many more amazing guests coming up every week. As Dr. Connie Brooks says, "The Bible says deliverance is the children's bread, but you've got to eat of it."
no-transcript. It's so good to be back with you guys here on Dimensions. We are so excited to be with you all, and I'm here, as always, with my lovely wife.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm glad to be here with you too, and thank you everybody for joining. This is going to be an awesome night tonight. It really is. So, listen, as always, I'd like you to take a moment just right now to be an awesome night tonight.
Speaker 1:It really is. So listen, as always. Like you to take a moment just right now to subscribe, follow, share, Listen. We had a phenomenal time last week with Elder Shonda Charles. If you didn't get a chance to check out that podcast, we are in every single one of the podcasts subscribing, so I think we're on like 10 different platforms. So anywhere you can get podcasts, you can get that no-transcript. Anytime we upload a new one, you'll be able to automatically have it downloaded right into your library. So we've got a whole lot more guests coming up. We're going to be on every single week coming up.
Speaker 1:We've got so many great guests that are going to be coming up. It's going to be awesome.
Speaker 2:Yes, and again, make sure you you share, because tonight is going to be a night that you don't want to miss. There's other people out there that need healing and deliverance and need to even know a little bit about that, so make sure you share it. You know what, babe? Just real quick. I so enjoyed. I was looking out at the window and I was thinking I love Daylight Savings Time and when I saw I saw something on Facebook. I don't know if any of you saw it, but I saw this and I thought this was so funny. It said that hour we lost was the one hour I was going to use to get my life together. Did you see that?
Speaker 1:I did not see that.
Speaker 2:I don't know if anybody else saw that, but I thought that was so funny. You know, we think we're we have this extra hour and we're going to be able to accomplish everything, but I don't know what did you do with that extra hour?
Speaker 1:Me I slept. That's what I did.
Speaker 2:You slept, that's right. But, that's important.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:That sleep is so important.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:I mean the older that I get, I feel like I need that sleep. You know, before, when I was a little bit, I always say not younger, but less seasoned everybody. I just have a little bit more seasoning on there.
Speaker 1:Well, like I said, we lost an hour though. Right, yeah, we lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we lost. Yeah, the hour that we lost was the one she said what did we do with?
Speaker 1:it. I didn't have it. They took it from me, so I didn't even have a chance to.
Speaker 2:No, we didn't but that was the hour that we were going to use to get our life together, but we lost it.
Speaker 1:We lost it, yeah, so I guess. Well, I'm always up early anyway, so instead of getting up at four o'clock, it was, like what, it'd be three o'clock, so I got an extra hour to my day. It was.
Speaker 2:Well, no. Let's move on because so, in other words, I like the extra sunlight at the end of the day yeah, that is cool.
Speaker 1:That is cool, and it is nice to look outside the window right now and see the sun out. It's been cool, too, getting up in the morning. Uh, we got a new puppy. For those of you that don't know that, we're still trying to housebreak. If you got any ideas I was just gonna ask everybody that uh, we are trying to get our uh, trying to bind the spirit of incontinence uh in our puppy. So we're going to ask for Dr Connie when she comes on, if she has any remedy To pray for our puppy?
Speaker 1:She's bound with an incontinent devil. She can hold her platter, she goes everywhere, y'all. But it's been so cool. But I meant to say that by we get up in the morning now and take her out. And it's cool, it's cute because she's chasing around the birds in the backyard. But wait a second, you let her without her leash on.
Speaker 2:I'm not that. I tried to do it one time and then she heard a bird chirping and she was about to go after the bird. So I said that's enough for me, because I don't want a lost puppy in the neighborhood on me.
Speaker 1:But she goes out at 630 in the morning. So 630 in the morning, I mean she ain't nothing out there, ain't nothing out there, ain't nothing out there but me and Jesus. So unless she's getting ratcheted, she ain't going nowhere. But on a more serious note, we know we do want to transition because this is going to be a real heavy topic. We're going to talk about deliverance, inner healing and also talking about freedom in the body of Christ. It is a misunderstood, sometimes misused, misinterpreted. All of these are so important in the body of Christ. You know, jesus cast out devils, paul cast out devils, the disciples did healing. There are times that you have to be discipled and you have to be developed personally. And we're going to listen to the expert tonight because, listen, while I believe in it and my wife and I operate in it, we have an expert in the field tonight. That is really going to be a blessing, and so are we ready to bring her on. You have anything that you want to mention before we do?
Speaker 2:I'm saying let's go in, let's go in.
Speaker 1:Let's go in. It's going to be awesome. So listen, take a moment, like, subscribe, follow, share, while we get ready to enter in to another level of dimensions here. This is going to be so great and, without any further ado, I want to bring our friend on. She has truly, truly been a friend. I've heard it said before that if you have a handful of friends in a lifetime, you're a rich person. We have been through the ups and downs. She's seen the inner workings of our life and she has been a constant friend. People have tried to talk bad about her to us.
Speaker 3:We did take a hold of it.
Speaker 1:I don't know if people talk bad about us to her, but we were connected with her. I'll never forget the first time I was on a telethon with her. Dr Mark Sharona was going to come in and I was told by Pastor Gary Mitchick we have somebody called Dr Connie Brooks. I said who's Dr Connie Brooks? Well, let me tell you this. I'd say this every time that I introduced her. I said if you don't know, you better ask somebody, because she came on and wrecked that whole place.
Speaker 2:It was like a mic drop. Oh man, I didn't want to touch the anointing. I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I remember that Very few times that she was like she's like, all right, pastor, I don't want that that. I ain't messing with what God is doing, that's right. I knew enough to respect that anointing and since that time my wife was watching at home. She said we've got to be in her world and we've connected and we've been running with her ever since.
Speaker 2:Well, what was interesting is, you were in the studio with her, yeah, and I said I want to meet her, yeah, and I want to get together or go to lunch, and you had already connected with her. And I didn't even know that, so it was just meant to happen.
Speaker 1:There was no way we were not going to have her in our lives. And listen, she is one of Pittsburgh's, unfortunately to some people best kept secrets, and we're hoping that our platform will continually help her name to get out there. She's someone that should be in every person's church. She's a prophetic voice, she is a woman of integrity, she is a powerhouse for the kingdom of God and she's recognized by the forces of darkness and hell. Amen, go ahead.
Speaker 2:This is what we do, everybody. She's an author.
Speaker 1:She's an author. We're going to find out about her book tonight.
Speaker 2:Absolutely A mom, a grandmother, a friend.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to be speaking at her church this Sunday. A mom, a grandmother, a friend, and I'm going to be speaking at her church this Sunday, yeah, so, and I am so honored, we are so honored to have her on here and to call her friends, dr Connie Brooks would you join us here on Dimensions With you guys?
Speaker 3:I'm listening to all of that. Not a puppy, what are y'all?
Speaker 2:doing with a puppy? Now what are we doing?
Speaker 1:with a puppy Now what are?
Speaker 1:we doing. Well, you know what I just. I woke up one day. Dr Connie and I was on Facebook and a friend of mine Well, actually she was a parishioner back at my church in New York and she had these cute Havanese puppies. Maybe next time around we'll bring you guys a picture. And my heart now my heart, went on to her and I told my wife she's been wanting a dog for a while. I said, babe, what do you think about this one? She said okay, let's get it. She fell in love with her. The voice fell in love with her.
Speaker 2:Pastor Connie, it is really his dog. I figured that.
Speaker 3:I figured, I figured.
Speaker 2:I got to dress her up. I got to dress her up. I have little bows on her and things like that, so we have to show Bows. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, it's so good to be with you guys tonight. Thank you for having me on tonight.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, awesome, we are so honored to have you with us tonight. I've been telling everybody hey, you got to tune in, share it like it, because tonight, I believe, is going to be a breakthrough night for people in Jesus name. But, pastor Connie, before we kind of go deep into everything, you are actually our first guest that we are going to do a Would you Rather segment on. So you're our first guest. So we're just going to, we're going to have fun just for a little bit and we're going to ask you some would you rather questions.
Speaker 1:So, ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned. We're going to be right back in just a moment.
Speaker 2:He was dancing here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:So, dr Connie, would you rather? All right, dr Connie, would you rather witness Jesus' birth or his resurrection?
Speaker 3:His resurrection. Okay, and why his resurrection? That came with the power the Bible says so very clearly the power that rose him up from the dead. That's powerful and I think we need that power in our lives today. So I would say resurrection.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's good. What would you pick?
Speaker 1:Just because she said that, I'm going to say the birth.
Speaker 3:You're going to say the opera Birth.
Speaker 1:I like what she said about that, but I also think birth or price would be something to witness, because I think if you could see both, it'd be great and share with me about the resurrection and I could share with her about the modest beginnings and where he ended up. And he hasn't really ended up where he ended up here on earth. That's right, his last hurrah before he ascended.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's good, okay. Second question Would you rather have the strength of Samson or the wisdom of Solomon?
Speaker 3:Oh, wisdom of Solomon, that's an easy one, yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially in this day and age.
Speaker 3:The Bible says so clearly that we should ask for wisdom, because he gives it to us liberally, so that he must really know that we need that. Strength comes and goes. You don't always need strength, but you're always going to need wisdom.
Speaker 1:And in this day and hour, you know you don't need it like that. Wisdom will take you a whole lot further in this day and hour than you would having just strength. I mean that's wonderful. Now you. It probably gets you a lot of money. You could be you know that wisdom could put you in all sorts of avenues.
Speaker 2:Well, that response is actually a response from somebody that has a lot of wisdom.
Speaker 1:That's true too.
Speaker 2:That's true, so all right, last question Pastor.
Speaker 3:Connie, would you rather see Jesus walk on water or see Jesus raise the dead? Oh man, I know that's a tough one. Yeah, let's say walk on water for me, because I think that is such a phenomenal. You know, that's one of the greatest miracles, and I think a lot of times I teach one that I say you know, I want to see a man get out of the boat and walk on water. You know there's water walkers, but it takes a lot of faith to do that. So I think walking on water would be the one that I would really hold on to.
Speaker 1:Ok, that's good, I agree with that. I agree with that because people have raised people from the dead, like we've seen. That documented. You know we've seen that, but I don't know anybody that's ever walked on water. I want to see that for myself. Jesus is the only one that I'm aware of that did it, and other people. He said greater signs, but I haven't seen anybody walk on water yet.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, Pastor Connie. Well, thank you so much. That was fun. So what do we got going on here?
Speaker 1:Well, dr Connie, we want to get right into the subject of deliverance, inner healing and freedom, and we definitely have some questions for you, and I think the first one I'd like to start off with because I think it's misunderstood and misinterpreted. People need to understand what exactly and I want to say this too before I ask the question I want everybody to understand this is someone that operates in the gift of deliverance. If your church doesn't operate in that gift, there are people that are walking in bondage that just aren't going to be free. You need to be in a ministry where deliverance is practiced. Jesus said in Luke 19, I'm giving you power, and so we have power to trample on serpents and over scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall, by enemies, be able to harm us. And the Bible continually goes on and talks in many other places where he gave us power to cast out devils, and so that's important. A lot of people are walking in bondage and you can't you can't bring deliverance to a devil with counseling.
Speaker 1:Come on, and this is a person tonight that is really going to give you instruction. So, dr Connie, with that in mind, what in your mind, in your spirit, would you tell the person that's listening or watching?
Speaker 3:what is deliverance? Well, I've been in it over 30 years, so to me, deliverance is broken down in so many different areas, pastor, because deliverance is being delivered from something. There has to be something there to be delivered from. And I think where people are confused with deliverance, they think deliverance and healing is the same thing, but it's not. You can be healed from a wound, you can be healed from an infection, you can be healed from something else, but deliverance. What is there that God is trying to get us delivered from?
Speaker 3:And when you study the life of Jesus. The Bible shows it casting out demons but healing the sick. So when I work deliverance, I work it in four areas. I work in inner healing, which is healing from. It's called theotherapy. Healing from the inside out. That deals with a lot of the emotions and the heart. The Bible talks about the issues of the heart. So I deal with that. And then when I talk about deliverance, I'm usually looking and seeking God for demonic strongholds, forces that attach itself, like oppression, depression. How do we get that off of that person sick? You're looking now for a physical healing. Sometimes you're looking for wounds, somebody who has been wounded and they're trying to put a band-aid on the wound. But it needs to be debrided, cleaned out. That's a difference. So there's about four different ways when we're dealing with deliverance and healing, that we have to look at someone's life, but deliverance itself means to be delivered from something.
Speaker 1:Do you do that, dr Connie, during a deliverance, like if you're in the middle of a service or just something that you kind of, before you go through deliverance? Do you take them to kind of like a preemptive type, pre-screening, if you will, to kind of determine what's going on in them and then go into whether they need deliverance in one of those four years, or do you have to discern it, or how do you determine which one they need in the moment?
Speaker 3:You know what, pastor? It's happened in church, but generally I do private sessions. My Wednesday evenings are usually booked solid with private sessions for deliverance and sometimes theotherapy, like on the 22nd I'm doing a theotherapy session. That's usually a whole room filled of people that are dealing with inner wounds from childhood, wounds from three years old, eight years old, 10 years old, molested, raped, and wherever they got molested and raped they get stunted. They stay in that way. So they have areas of their life that behave like a 30-year-old but other areas of their life that behave like a seven-year-old, because that's where the wound came in, that's where the damage came in.
Speaker 3:So whenever I'm preaching and then start doing altar work, there might be somebody that comes to the altar. We may begin a work, but we can't finish it at the altar because healing is like an onion, it comes in layers. You can't take someone through deliverance at one time and just walk away, unless it's very shallow, not really deep, but majority of the time people have been walking around so damaged for so long. You need more than one time with that person, but you can cast out the demon in one service. If it's not something that's a stronghold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so good you know. I'm glad you clarified that, because I think there are so many people, even Christians, that say, well, I need healing when really they may need deliverance, or I need deliverance when really they need healing. You know, there was a person that we knew that came into our ministry and she said she was a Christian, but she thought that there were demons inside. So can a Christian be demon?
Speaker 3:possessedpossessed? Oh, absolutely, because, remember, those demons became in probably before they became a Christian. When they gave their life to the Lord, they were already in there. But the teaching that is then said, oh, now it's on to the blood. When somebody comes to Christ, they say, oh, all that's on to the blood. No, it's not, it hasn't gone anywhere, it's still there. They've given their life to Christ, but now here comes the healing process, here comes the sanctification process, just like mental illness. The Bible says when the Lord was dealing with mental illness, he said some things wouldn't go out without prayer and fasting. So we have to let the Holy Spirit lead us into that, because I have worked with Christians who are possessed. Lead us into that, because I have worked with Christians who are possessed and who are oppressed, because they are filled with demonic forces, because it was in their lives before they even became a Christian.
Speaker 3:And when they became a Christian. They gave their life to the Lord, but they never addressed the issue. Some of them had never been baptized. They never buried the old man. Some are not filled with the Holy Spirit, and so what happens is that demonic force stays there and they walk around.
Speaker 3:I have people that are 40 years old that behave like seven years old. One of my clients right now that I'm working with he is a grown man. He's probably like 40 something years old, but he never had boundaries. When he was seven years old, their parents left him to run himself. He went to school when he wanted to. So now in his adult life, he doesn't have boundaries. He wants to touch women. He wants to. You know he does all of these things and all it is is a man that never had boundaries. So now we have to retrain him to now understand those are violations of the Word of God. You're out of order here. You can't just walk around and touch people, and it's got him into much trouble. So what we have to do now is deal with the whole fact that this little boy was left unattended.
Speaker 3:He opened himself up for a lot of the occult behavior. He watched things he shouldn't have watched. He got involved with things outside of his house that his parents didn't know. He was involved in sexual activities that started at a young age. So you're looking at someone that's coming with baggage, wow, and he gets into a marriage and the marriage doesn't work. It can't work because you brought five suitcases in with you and you're trying to figure it out mentally. But it's mental, it's physical, it's emotional and it's spiritual because you have never addressed the issues.
Speaker 3:Some kids go off to college. They get involved with Ouija boards, they get involved with palm reading the occult and they come back home or come back to church and they're not the same people because they have opened up. Those are Christians. When they left home, they might be pastors, daughters, they might be whoever in the church, but when they went away to college they opened up themselves to the occult or demonic behavior that was allowed in. And if it's sexual, where they?
Speaker 3:I have a picture in my office where I show women when they take the class. Whenever you lay down with five, six, seven, eight different different men, you don't know which one of them were demonically possessed. Now their bodily fluids are now in the walls of your body and you're wondering why you're acting crazy and people are saying oh, oh, there's nothing. Yes, there is, water has power in it, and that water is in your body and in there is is all of the things that he's gone into, how many people he has been involved in the kind of occult that he's been. And then some of the things that we even deal with is even bestiality people that are actually sleeping with the animals.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:So deliverance, pastor Jay, is so vast it literally takes the Holy Spirit to tell us what we're dealing with. I have one client that said to me last night. He said you're the only person that I've ever talked to like this, and I'm 30 something years old and I've never spoken to anyone like I'm speaking to you because I don't think they could understand the kind of pain that started in my life when I was a little boy. They could not have understood that. My parents I couldn't even explain this to my parents. That's how far back and how deep sometimes the pain goes.
Speaker 2:You know it's interesting because you mentioned about the Ouija boards and things like that. It seems like you know, there's people that we have encountered that they have dabbled even in crystals and it seems almost like it's an innocent thing, like one person. It was just something that I thought was. I just did it, you know what I mean. And then, but they're wondering why they're seeing demonic images in their home. Things working right, things are shifting, things are you know what I mean our home Things are working right.
Speaker 3:Things are shifting. You know what I mean? They have something on Facebook right now. There's a gentleman walking around his apartment and sprinkling sage all over his apartment and while he's sprinkling the sage, the pictures on the walls are turning, cupboard doors are opening and he's just walking around because somebody told him in one of the occults that he was in that sage cleanses the house. Well, the sage was bringing out all the demonic forces in the house. He opened up himself to something he didn't need to open up himself to.
Speaker 3:And many times people go to these different meetings and people make these recommendations and they burn candles and they burn different spices and they make it sound very innocent, but what they're doing is opening up themselves to forces that the enemy wants to get in and all he needs is a crack. He doesn't even need a big hole. Just give him a crack. That's why the Bible says give no place to him, because if he gets in, he's going to take control.
Speaker 3:The devil is not going to come in and not do anything. He's coming after your heart and your emotions. That's why we have so many people battling mental illness today, because during the pandemic, so many people were shut down and fear came in. And the Bible says in the scripture it's so hard that how we have to seek the Lord and for Him to deliver. I sought the Lord and he delivered me from all of my fears. I sought the Lord because there's something in my life that's got a hold of me and fear is one of the most crippling things you'll find when we work in deliverance, because fear will keep you in bondage and keep you from advancing in many areas of your life.
Speaker 1:You know, dr Connie, I'm going to give a little respectful pushback on something. What I mean by pushback? A follow-up question, because I've always been taught and you can challenge me on this because, like I said, you are truly the expert, so I'm going to yield to you in this that how can a Christian be filled with the Spirit of God and the devil at the same time? How is that possible? Now I can understand somebody. Maybe they get saved and they say, okay, I did that. But if somebody is already saved, then they can have a devil. How do we combat that with the scripture? Because I was always taught that the spirit of God can't dwell where the demonic has possession. So either God has possession or Satan has possession. What would you say to that?
Speaker 3:It's because we mingle, pastor. We mingle with things. We go out and we come to the church, we get the Holy Spirit, we back out and we mingle with something else and we bring it back in and we mingle. It's almost like it's a mixture, and that's what you find. That's happening when you have the Holy Spirit. The Bible says we are filled with the Holy Spirit. Very few people are filled with the Holy Spirit. They have a measure, pastor. They get a little bit of it and then they're gone. But if you do not use the Holy Spirit all the time, if you do not pray in the Spirit, if you do not spend time letting the Spirit lead and guide you, you're going to do things in your own way.
Speaker 3:And so many times people open up themselves. It's just like Christians. How can a Christian say I love God but still go and commit sexual sin? How can a Christian say I love God but still go and commit sexual sin? How can a Christian say I love the Lord and commit sodomy on someone's son that is filled with the Holy Ghost? You know we have people that are filled with the Holy Spirit in the church that are abusing children, that are abusing each other because you have the Holy Spirit. So why am I still doing something evil?
Speaker 3:It's the same thing with deliverance. It's a mixture. They mingle and, before you know it, it becomes a co-mixture. They begin to mix things together and many people have taught it for years. You cannot be filled with the Holy Spirit and be oppressed or depressed by it. I have worked with it for 30 years and I have a lady, a young lady, who is in her 50s today. When she came to me, she's got the Holy Spirit, has been walking with God at least over 20 years. Every night a demon would ride her before she would go to sleep. Wow, wow, she could not sleep. That's how intense it was. She would literally feel him try to penetrate her and the only thing that she would help her is when she would say Jesus, jesus, jesus until she got deliverance. For years she said this happened to her, but she was too embarrassed to tell anyone.
Speaker 1:Well, Dr Connie, would that be a difference? All right, and that's where I'm glad we're having this conversation here, because is there a difference between possession and oppression? So like, can a Christian be oppressed but actually possessed as well? Are you talking about an oppression? Are you saying Christians can be possessed by Satan at the same time by being saved by God Satan?
Speaker 3:at the same time by being saved by God. Yeah, well, it's so interesting, pastor. I, after working with as many people as I have, I've seen Christians possessed and oppressed. I have seen Now oppression to me is morely mental, where they don't want to get out of bed. They are sometimes suicidal, they don't have no zeal. That's usually oppression to me. Depression is also somewhere along that line. They're going to a deeper phase of their minds and their thoughts where they're not thinking right. I have a young man who doesn't change his clothes, who doesn't bathe. He's a Christian, have Christian parents. Won't bathe, won't change his clothes, won't get out of bed because he's in this place in his head. They don't know how he got there. They don't know how, but they were Christians. He was as far as they know. He was never opened up to something. But he's totally depressed by whatever this thing is.
Speaker 3:So, I see so much of it that I used to always believe Christians cannot be possessed no way they can be. But then when I see the behavior, when you're talking about the Leviathan, demonic forces, strongholds, pastor, I have seen it all. I've seen snakes come out. I've seen people literally turn to snakes and wiggle onto the pews of a church trying to get away from me because of what was in them. I've seen cancer.
Speaker 3:So I went to the hospital and they told me the person had cancer. And when I went into the hospital and I laid hands on the person and they coughed, everything that came out of their belly was green and the Lord said it wasn't cancer, it was demonic. When the green stuff all came out on the bed, they no longer had cancer. When they take the test, there was no more cancer. It was a demonic stronghold that hid itself, like cancer. When my husband battled cancer a few years ago, the doctor said something that really interests me. He said your husband has a cancer that hides. I said cancer hides. He says yes, this cancer has been here for a while and it hides. And it's the same way with demonic forces, pastor Demons will hide until they're ready to manifest.
Speaker 1:Well, what is the difference in your process then? If somebody is possessed and oppressed, is there a difference in the deliverance piece of how you deal with both of them, or are they one and the same?
Speaker 3:Usually it's the person's faith. It's according to your faith. I can say to somebody in the name of Jesus, I command this unclean spirit to go. It takes out and I have somebody else who I could say that to, and that person is not ready. The stronghold is there and they're not ready to let it go. They have lived with it so long they don't know how to live without it. So there's times when we have to work longer with someone because of the state that they're in and sometimes we have to figure out do they need inner healing? Are they needing of deliverance? What is it that this person actually needs? And sometimes, pastor, it's medication. There is times when people literally need medication because their system is off balance. Everything is not demonic, everything is not depression and oppression. Sometimes people are mentally unstable because there's enzymes and chemicals in their body that they need to get balanced. And it takes all of the above the healing part of it and then also the medication part of it.
Speaker 2:So, pastor Connie, you know there's people that are watching right now that may in fact need true deliverance, and we're talking about people coming to you, coming to the pastor, to get deliverance. But can people actually do deliverance on themselves?
Speaker 3:Deliverance comes in levels. You can get delivered by a song. You can be standing in church worshiping and the song circumcises your heart. That's the deliverance Pastor could be preaching. I've seen Pastor Jay preach and I see breakthroughs sitting in the congregation preaching.
Speaker 2:I've seen.
Speaker 3:Pastor Jay preach and I see breakthroughs sitting in the congregation. That's deliverance, so it's levels of deliverance. If there's an anointing, the Bible says the anointing destroys the yoke. So if it's a level of deliverance that can be destroyed by a word, yes, someone can, right in their seat, get delivered because of the word, because of a song, because they say you know what? Because the word.
Speaker 3:I heard Pastor Jay preach today. This is not staying in me, no more, and in the name of Jesus, I command this spirit to be broken off. You can literally, in the middle of a service, get freed. I've seen it many times. I was somewhere preaching and a lady died in my service. She died, I mean they touched her neck and they said she has no pulse. And I said no, that spirit of death, I command you to go, she shall live. And the lady sat up. So it all depends on how you know gross, how intense that that person is when you're dealing with them. Because, like I said, I've seen people in church. You sing a song and that song or that hymn ministers to you. Tears begin to flow. You get breakthrough from something that you're dealing with. You may hear a word that comes from the pulpit and right away it triggers you and it releases something from off of your life. That's also deliverance, but there's also times when you're dealing with strongholds, where you're actually dealing with things that have been in there for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, you know what. So that's the deliverance side of it. Yeah, yeah, well, you know what. So that's the deliverance side of it. Now, the healing side I've been talking to a number of women that they have emotional baggage, emotional trauma that they've been holding on for a number of years. And so those women, and even men, you know that, have that emotional trauma, that emotional baggage what would you say? And these people we have found, these people, they love God, they are crazy about the Lord, they're spending time with Him, but there is some deep inner healing that needs to take place. And so once a person recognizes that, what do you think what is the first step? Once they say you know what, I'm not over this, yet you know I'm not over this the divorce yet I'm not over the death of my child, yet I'm not over these things, what is the first step that you would tell them to take?
Speaker 3:That's when we use theotherapy. That's something I studied over 20 years ago. Theotherapy means God heals. It deals with the inner healing, and what we usually do in theotherapy is take the person back to where the pain started. Where did it start? Normally, if you've gone through a divorce, that's not where the pain started. Rejection might have started when you were three years old. You're battling with the seed of rejection. Sometimes rejection starts in the womb. If a mother doesn't want a child, she gets pregnant and she begins to speak over the chalice or belly is growing. I was not expecting to have another baby. I don't want this child. Many times that child feels rejection from the womb.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:And so when they come out, they're kids that are very quiet, very laid back, because they already feel rejected. It goes with them all through life until it's addressed. They'll find themselves in school and you'll hear that child say well, they don't like me and my teacher doesn't like me. They're always looking for someone to reject them because that's the spirit that they're operating. So when they get married, before their husband rejects them, they reject him. They find something to pick at him. They find something to pick at him. They find something to pull at to be able for them to reject him. They're always looking for someone to reject them because they started in the womb.
Speaker 3:Rejection is one of the deepest things that I see is when somebody feels rejected because that's one of the things that follow them all through life, in their marriage, sometimes through a divorce. Sometimes they go to church and they find themselves in church and they say I have a church wound. It's not really a church wound. You came damaged and somebody triggered you in that church and instead of understanding you've been triggered, you feel that they're hurting you. You take it as an offense. They didn't offend you, you were just triggered.
Speaker 2:Wow, that is so good, pastor Connie, I share with her today, when I was talking to her, that I could listen to her all day.
Speaker 1:I could listen to her all day you know you mentioned kids.
Speaker 2:Have you ever had, you know, a young child or an older child come to you that you had to do healing or deliverance on?
Speaker 3:I usually do Any children that go through where the parents adopt them.
Speaker 3:I always tell the parents to take that child through deliverance, because what happens is you are raising a child that's not your bloodline and you don't know what was in that bloodline and the bloodline is very important. And so you get a child and you're wondering why the child is acting out. The child is behaving because of the seed that was in it. You see, you can't separate the seed from the child. That father's in there, that mother's in there, you have that child and you have a home. That's different. But that child, that seed, is in that child.
Speaker 3:And the Bible is very clear about familiar spirits and generational curses. The Bible showed us of the spirit. That's where the word family comes from, from familiar spirits that runs in families. So if you adopt a child and the child comes from a nation where there's foreign gods, you bring a child from China and it's foreign gods. That's what's in that child and even though you bring him into a Christian home, he's still dealing with demonic forces from that bloodline. And so many times people adopt children and wonder why the struggle is so great. Because you're trying to put a child into your seed. That's not your seed, that has come to you with a seed from someone totally different and you thought, once you adopt them and you raise them according to your house, things are going to line up according to your house, which is usually not so. That child already had its seed in it when it came to you.
Speaker 1:You know that's really powerful because you know when you're talking, dr Connie, what it kind of reminds me of is that the Bible says that through Adam, the male seed is how everything's transferred, and it's through Adam everybody. So it doesn't matter if you know who your daddy is.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 1:That's exactly going to be passed on, and so with that it's going to come its type of issues and struggles, so I never even looked at that like that. Now, real quick, before I ask Dr Connie the next question. If any of you have any questions that you would like Dr Connie to answer, we're going to ask you to text those in through Facebook, chat, youtube, wherever it is that you're doing that. Type those in and we're going to get to some questions here while I ask her the next one. You know, dr Connie, how do you know the difference when somebody needs deliverance or discipleship? Because some people I need the devil cast, I need the devil cast, I need the devil cast on. They're just not willing to grow in their faith. And then there's others that may be trying to disciple a devil. How do you decipher between the two of those?
Speaker 3:Most of the time, people that need discipleship. They don't have demonic problems, they have offensive problems. They're dealing with offense, the spirit of offense, and so they go from church to church because they don't want to submit to anyone. So that's usually the problem when you're dealing with discipleship, because many times they don't have any foundation pastor, they're not solid anywhere because they're so custom of running. As soon as they get offended, I'm leaving. As soon as they get offended, I'm leaving. They're literally looking for you to offend them so they can leave. Now I've been here for six months. I know he's going to say something to hurt my feelings. It's an offense. That usually is what the problem is. It's not even a demonic thing, it's just that people don't want to submit, they don't want to lay a solid foundation anywhere, and many times people struggle with control issues. You're trying to control me and I'm not going to be controlled by a man.
Speaker 3:I was in another church and they did this or they did that. No, you're walking around with a very strong spirit of offense and many times, pastor, they're not even offended. They think they're offended because everything somebody does to them is triggering them. You'll see somebody come and join the church. Oh, your wife. The wife looked at me funny. The sister over there did this. They're looking around for someone to offend them, to give them a reason to leave, instead of submitting to your authority and allowing you to disciple them and say you know, pastor, I've run enough. I want to submit to you and I want to sit on to you and be tutored by you so that I can grow. You don't get that much, because people are always just like, even in marriages. Today, we go into marriages with a buyout clause. If it doesn't work, I can leave. Where is that in the Word? That's how we address church also. I will go there and help them until somebody offends me. Then I got to go.
Speaker 1:So you think the great way to determine between deliverance and deception most of the time is rooted in the key of offense, offense.
Speaker 3:The Bible says in the last days, offense is going to be the biggest problem in the church today Offenses.
Speaker 3:Because when I'm offended, instead of taking ownership of the offense and say what was my part in it, what did I do wrong, we're very quick to point the finger it's you, it's you, it's you. It's never always you, it's us. And when a couple has a disagreement, nobody wins if we don't have an agreement and solve it. Agreement, we have agreement, there's power, and when we're able to solve something, we both win. Well, it's the same way in the church. When somebody comes and sits on your ministry, instead of saying I lay my gifts at the altar, I've come to serve in the house, they normally come looking for a title, and when the title is not given, then offense comes in because, oh, you don't see me the way I see myself. No, you've just joined the house and there's protocol and there's authority and there's submission. Did you forget about that? There's circumcision.
Speaker 3:If you say I'm your father, why am I not allowed to circumcise your heart? Why am I not allowed to circumcise your heart? Why am I not allowed to handle things in your life that I see is broken? So that's the problem, pastor, a lot of it, and you're going to see it in the last days, more than ever before, the spirit of offense is going to run rampant because there's so many people offended over nothing. They think they're offended. They're not even offended. They just think they're offended Because you don't even have to say anything, just don't ask them to do something one week, and oh, you overlooked me, there's the offense right there. You haven't done anything, but they do not realize it's because of what is in them, that spirit of rejection, that spirit of offense is laying dormant and is always looking for a way to leave.
Speaker 2:But as soon as you offend me I'm gone. And that is excellent teaching. You know it's funny. Right before you said it doesn't even have to be about anything, I was thinking that. You know it's simple, it's not anything big and it happens so quick, the events happen so quick and then that person, they may leave the church or leave a relationship. You know, yeah, but you know what?
Speaker 3:too, Pastor. Pastor Jay is a very strong teacher, very, very prolific, very, very strong teacher. They will love his teaching until it has to check them.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, Pastor Jay is the greatest, but until he says to you you can't do this until I give you permission, then all of a sudden it's a different thing. You know why? Because he triggered the authority that they're running from.
Speaker 2:That is so good. Well, pastor Connie, we do have some questions here and I want to make sure that I share these. I have one person that said I need to start grieving my adult daughter I lost four years ago. How should I start? So there's some healing there that needs to take place.
Speaker 3:When people have a loss, the first thing that I do I give them a notebook and I tell them to start writing. Start writing a letter to God. Dear God, here are my feelings. I'm angry, I'm ticked off. They have to put their feelings on paper. They need to be able to see where they hurt. Nobody can mourn for you, nobody can tell you your feelings, but you have to begin to own it. It's just like scripture. When I teach it, you will never be able to take the scripture in your heart until you study it and own that scripture. It's the same way with loss, the same way with accidents, danger, traumas. She has to take ownership. My daughter's gone. I have to trust that God knew this was going to happen, because he knows the beginning from the end. So I am going to now write a letter to God and get my answer from him. And let me tell you why.
Speaker 3:I know that Some years ago my sister was diagnosed with cancer and she was dying. I was at her hospital bed and her husband was not treating her very well. I think he had just gotten tired of her battling cancer when she was dying and I saw he was treating, I got angry and I was in a hotel in the city where she was and I went to ask the Lord help me. And he said help you with what.
Speaker 3:Somebody just asked you downstairs how are you doing? You say I'm fine. He said well, I want you to tell me all of the emotions that you just felt when you left your sister. It was so bad I had to turn on the water so that the hotel staff didn't hear me. Wow, because I didn't realize how angry and how ticked off I was at what life had just dealt with the loss of my sister. So it's important for her to understand her feelings are real and God is sitting there waiting to hear it. But put it on. The Bible says to write your vision, write down where you hurt, and then at the end of the letter, I always leave a line for God to tell you exactly what you're feeling.
Speaker 2:Wow, that is so good. Well, you who sent in that question, I pray that you are blessed. That was an awesome start. So thank you, pastor Connie. I have another question. I have a woman here that's saying how do I get healing when you're in a relationship with somebody that has been unfaithful numerous times? And now you are in this relationship and there's triggers that are prompting thoughts to come back into her now from her past?
Speaker 3:One of the things I counsel whenever there's been any kind of breach in the marriage like that is two things. If it's more than one time, this is a habit. That person is deliverant this is a habit. They have a spirit of lust. Many times people deal with lust before they get married but they never address it. They think marriage will solve it. Marriage doesn't solve lust, it only solves sex.
Speaker 3:All right, he has sex with his wife, but he still has a lust for whatever was out there. So it doesn't solve it and so until he literally gets deliverance from it, he's going to be triggered. There's certain triggers that will pull him back out there. But I also say to the person who has been hurt in the relationship if you cannot forgive him and let it go, then you have to leave him, because what you cannot do is rehash every day that person's mistake if they have changed. But if he hasn't changed and he keeps doing it to you somewhere along the line, you have to get help or he's going to have to get help. That's not going to work.
Speaker 1:That is so good.
Speaker 3:You're bringing in too many spirits in the marriage. Whenever there is a violation of your vows, your covenant, you've broken that covenant. You've taken it to a contract and you're bringing all kinds of addendums in there. You're bringing in this, you're bringing in that because all of the people that you're with are now in your marriage and, unless you put them out, they're going to stay in your marriage.
Speaker 2:That is so good and I thought about that. I mean, when you talk about all the different spirits that are coming in, you know the person that's been hurt you're talking about the spirit of unforgiveness that could possibly seep in Unforgiveness, your spirit of lust, Unforgiveness is there.
Speaker 3:Lust, Betrayal is there. It's so many more spirits, not just one. And if you look in my book, I'll show you in my book on the construction all of the family line, the father line, the mother line. Sometimes when you look in families those spirits are in other people in the family also. They have also violated their marriage. It runs in the family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, pastor Connie. It's funny, I have your book right here everybody. This is an awesome book. You can get it on Amazon, correct, pastor Connie?
Speaker 3:Right, and it is a workbook. It's not just a reading book. You have to put things in it.
Speaker 2:And this is so good. I have been blessed so far. Pastor Connie, I didn't complete it yet, but I have been blessed so far by this book. I can't wait. I carry it with me everywhere to work, when I go pick up my kids, so if I have a minute I can jump in and start reading. But if you can grab this book from Amazon, this is so good. Well listen.
Speaker 3:And Pastor, can I say something right there? There's a page in the book where you'll see the tree, the family tree, a tree of your mother, a tree of the father. What I want you to understand what walks in the father runs in the son. What walks in the mother runs in the daughter. What walks in the mother runs in the daughter. It's in there, it's in the seed. I call it, prego, it's in there. And so what happens many times? If we don't address it, you'll find you'll see it running through the family. You know, if you never addressed the dysfunction of your father, the very thing you hated about him, if you're not careful, you will become that.
Speaker 1:Well, and I like what you said it walks in the father, but it accelerates and runs in the son. So it's going to make progression. And I've always said this, dr Connie you'll either pass on the blessings to your children or they'll inherit your devils. Make a decision on which one.
Speaker 1:So somebody may be watching right now and I just feel this by the Holy spirit right now that there's some of you're blaming your parents and blame everybody in the past. You've got to understand. You need to break that shackle now or otherwise you're going to end up passing on to your children the very things that you hated, that your parents or grandparents, whatever somebody, did to you. And I believe that you're watching this right now because God wants you, and the reason why you're facing so many obstacles and why it's been so hard is you are breaking the very things that destroyed previous generations in your family. So it's very, very important that you do, and those of you that are just listening or just tuning in, you need to go back and listen to this. This is a wealth of knowledge and, dr Connie, I hope I'm not getting in trouble for doing it, but I'm going to say it anyways.
Speaker 3:Every person that's watching. You need to be inviting her to your church.
Speaker 1:She is not going to wreck our church. We're going to have her back again. She is just a wealth of knowledge and I'm sitting here and you can just feel the power and the anointing and the spirit of freedom that is in the atmosphere, even while you're watching.
Speaker 1:And she said there's levels to the freedoms and deliverance and you can be listening to this right now and get supernaturally set free just because of the word and the anointing that is being ushered across these airwaves right now. So don't take this for granted that just because you're listening to a podcast or just because you're watching this on Facebook or on YouTube, you can't get free, Dr Connie. I believe people can get free right now.
Speaker 3:Absolutely they can, because the Bible says so clearly in Romans 12 and 2, do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. We need to renew our mind regarding deliverance and healing. Don't make it spooky, don't make it dark. No, it's very lightening and eye-opening. The Bible says deliverance is the children's bread, but you've got to eat of it, you've got to want it, You've got to desire it, and I think it's so important for us to understand. The Bible also says keep your heart with all diligence, because in it flows the issues of life. There's a lot of things in our hearts that we need to clear out, to put a new paradigm, a new thought pattern in a new feeling in. We've been living too dysfunctional and broken for too long and we need to clear out that heart so that God can fill it the same way with our mind. He says to renew my mind, change my mind, change my paradigm, because I'm embracing a new system.
Speaker 1:You know also, dr Connie. I wanted to ask this question. Maybe somebody's listening right now. Pastors are listening. People start realizing they're feeling this unction and faith within them, that they want to start operating in this type of ministry in their church. What is the best way to go about it? Is this something that they bring somebody like you, according to someone's schedule, or someone that operates in the type of gift, to bring them in to educate and to teach? How do we as ministries prepare our churches? Because I believe every church could have this deliverance and also inner healing type ministry. We are getting ready to come into our new building here very soon. We're getting ready to launch it in hours. We know what we're going to do in order to do it, but what would you say is the best way for ministries to begin to activate this and to get this operating in their churches?
Speaker 3:I think the best thing for me, and I do this across the country and around the world. I train the altar workers. I train whatever the pastor is ministering and then he calls an altar call. I train the altar workers to look for deliverance, to look for see what someone needs, and I teach them how you don't speak it out loud, you may just whisper in their ear. You know I break every unclean spirit. I train the altar workers to get to the altar and help someone who needs something and then, if they see that person needs more or the person requires more, to say, oh my gosh, I got such breakthrough at the altar today. Can I come back? Can I get some time? You have somebody in your church that are part of your altar team that are able to help them.
Speaker 3:Do that. That's what we do every Wednesday. People are waiting. There's a waiting list at my office now for couples and people to get in to see me, because I only have one evening a week available because of my travels and I do my office hours on Wednesday. But it's difficult because people have to come, they have to be taught Pastor, because there's a lot of people who feel, oh, I can just do this. No, you don't want to play with demons. They will jump on you. They will literally jump on you. You can't come up there battling with lust and trying to cast lust out. You can't do it, that's right.
Speaker 2:Amen, that's right. You know, pastor Connie, this has been a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 1:You are so anointed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was somebody that asked how did they get an opportunity to have an appointment with you? I don't know if you share that. Is that a possibility, or is that something that you'd like to share?
Speaker 3:with us. They can call my office. That's the only thing I can tell them right now. The waiting period is long. It's probably going to be May before they can see me because I have people already waiting and I have another team, the team that works with them. Just do the deliverance. If they want to see the team, they can see them right away. But if they want to see me personally, that's a long waiting list to get to see me because I already have people on the list. That's meeting and I think now we're up to like 8 o'clock in the evening on Wednesdays. So they would have to call the office at 412-795-2116. Call the office, leave a message. My secretary will get back and see if they want to go to the deliverance team or they definitely want to meet with me. But meeting with me is not going to be as easy as working with the team.
Speaker 3:Tammy Hawthorne and you know her. She's in the deliverance team. She's the one that works with them in deliverance. I start with theotherapy. I do all the evaluations, see what the needs are. If deliverance is needed, I send them into the deliverance team. It's theotherapy. I spend time with them. If it's mental illness, then we also can prescribe for them, doctors and other things to help with that.
Speaker 1:That is awesome. Well, we already plan on, just so y'all know.
Speaker 2:We are bringing her into the church. We are going to be bringing her in, oh yeah, to the women's ministry. Everybody. Anywhere else, we can bring her.
Speaker 1:Listen, I told y'all before she is one of the best. My prayer is that any platform God gives me, I can expose the body of Christ to gifts that have been hidden. She's been hidden way too long. That doesn't mean that she don't have any visual and people don't know who she is at all. But I mean, I've said this before, I say it every time Every church in Pittsburgh needs to know her name.
Speaker 2:We are respecters of the anointing.
Speaker 1:We don't just let anybody in our churches, but we are always honored to have her and we are going to be setting some things up with her.
Speaker 3:And pastors, I must say that to you although you would like to see me in all the churches, I don't go to all the churches. I have to be led by the Lord to go. Why? Because when I leave there, I must understand that they're going to use the gifts to help.
Speaker 3:It's not that I don't have this. Places that have asked me that I've said, said no, there's quite a few churches that I will not go to because I don't believe they actually believe in deliverance, because there's no. They say that they want it, you know, but I think they want more for me to manifest in the prophetic, more than deliverance.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow and I totally respect that, dr Connie, wow, wow, and I totally respect that, dr Connie, and my meaning for saying that is really just the fact that every person should have a response for this anointing that she walks in and, even if she says no, you women of God in the earth today. I didn't say they didn't have big social media followings and not big Facebook following, but people that really operate in the anointing and the power of God and the demonstration, people getting free and delivered and walking integrity. Man, when you find a hold of a man or woman of God that's living like that, you got to keep a hold of them.
Speaker 2:You don't want to let them go.
Speaker 1:You don't want to let them go, yeah, you don't want to let them go you don't want to let them go, and you know, Dr Kahn, I want to know if you take a couple of minutes just to pray over those that are watching, listening. However, the Spirit of the Lord will lead you for deliverance, freedom, healing. If you want to operate in the prophetic, you can. Whatever the Lord puts upon your heart, just minister for a couple of minutes or 30 seconds, whatever God puts in your heart, to just speak to those that are listening right now.
Speaker 3:Well, the Bible says regarding deliverance when the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and delivers them out of all of their trouble. Psalms 34, 17. Psalms 107 and 6 says they cry to the Lord in their trouble and he delivered them from all of their distress. And many times we've got to cry out to God, got to get to a place. I don't believe the teacher ever comes until the student cries out for help. When a student says to God, I'm ready, send me my teacher, send me my mentor, send me my instructor, send me my deliverer. You know God is going to raise up a deliverer because he wants us to be delivered, he wants us to be set free.
Speaker 3:So, Father, tonight I send the word of deliverance over this family, lord God, over everybody over the airwaves that's listening tonight to the podcast. I send the word to them right now that deliverance would break forth in their home. They sought the Lord, they cried out. They want to be free from anger. They want to be free from pain and mental attacks and tiredness and hurt and heart. Their heart is broken. Their heart has been broken over and over again. And, god, you can send the bomb, you can send the oil and the white into those broken areas, lord God, but we have to cry out to you, lord God, because you are the healer. I'm not the healer, you are the healer. And God, you know what everyone has need of. That's listening tonight.
Speaker 3:And so, father, I ask you right now, in the name of Jesus, to break the strongholds, lord God, I break the powers of mental illness against the mind. I come against the attack of the emotions. Lord God, the up and down rollercoaster life. Lord God, the spirit of rejection, lord God, the deep spirit of offense, lord God, those that were abused as children, lord God, bullied as children, molested as children, sodomized as children, god for those that were abused as children, lord God, bullied as children, molested as children, sodomized as children. God, I break the whole tonight in the name of Jesus, lord God, any dark places that were opened over their lives, I command those dark places to be shut.
Speaker 3:Lord God, in the name of Jesus, lord, you said James 5, 16. If I confess my sins before you, lord God, and pray, lord, for one another that we may be healed, the prayer of the righteous person will have failed much, lord God. So I pray tonight that we will confess our faults to you, god. We'll confess our brokenness, our damage, our hurts, our disappointment, our betrayals. Lord God, we will never see change until we own the situation that we're faced. So, god, tonight, by the blood of the Lamb that Pastor Jay and Pastor Tim has opened up this avenue, this door, this pathway, to say come on, in, come, come, drink, come to the fountain, lay before God tonight and say I've had enough, I don't want to deal with this anymore. I'm going to give it over to you. I'm not going to be addicted to this nicotine anymore. I'm not going to be addicted to this caffeine anymore. I break that spirit that wants to hold me bondage.
Speaker 3:Lord, god, I break its hold now, in the name of Jesus, and I send the word of God to your body. You may be battling with an infirmity that is consistent. You can't get any breakthrough in it. By the blood of the Lamb, I break the spirit of infirmity, I break unclean spirits from off of your life right now and I command you, by the blood of the Lamb, to be healed, to be delivered and set free in Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen Amen.
Speaker 2:Well, I believe some people out there you are set free by the power of the Holy Spirit, that that healing virtue is flowing through your whole, entire body, physical body, but your emotions as well, your heart. You know the Lord is close to the broken heart. You know the Lord is close to the broken heart. Close, he's near, like Pastor Connie just shared. Just drink of that, just drink from Him.
Speaker 1:I am so honored that God met us here today, that he met us here. I am so honored and, dr Connie, we are honored to have you and so glad to be your friend. I am so honored here with us on Dimensions and it looks like we lost her there.
Speaker 2:I think we uh-oh, we lost her there.
Speaker 1:Well, we do thank her for that and if we get her back, we'll bring her back on, but we are pretty much we wanted to give her her goodbyes. And what are your takeaways?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, she's a phenomenal woman of God. A true. Not everybody that calls themselves a person of God is truly a person of God. I mean, she is an anointed woman of God. She is an apostolic call in her life. And listen everybody, she is the real deal. Yeah, you know what she is the real deal.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad she doesn't turn us away. But you know one thing I realized too. She said those that cry out to God, those who seek the Lord, will find deliverance, and a lot of times a lot of people don't respect that anointing. That's why I know the anointing well enough that when it comes on the scene you honor that you know, and you don't. If you're around that you know that can get on you and what she has. Even while she was just teaching, I just felt the presence of God just moving in a special way, and so we thank God for her and we thank God for all of you that are watching, and I want to encourage all of you to take a minute once again like, subscribe, follow, share. I'm telling you right now. There are so many people that need to hear this podcast, they need to hear this videocast right now and if you're listening right now, take a minute and share this, because there are people out there that, once they tune in, I want to take clips of these and just repost them for people that may not listen to the whole thing, but just certain segments, because it is a lost teaching in the body of Christ.
Speaker 1:We need more deliverance. We are getting ready to do inner healing in our church. We're getting ready to see cleansing streams, sozo. We just felt the Lord has been speaking to us that we need to do more of this in our church. We're about to land our building. We just got our variants, hallelujah, so we're getting ready to launch into that and we are getting ready to do a massive discipleship, growth and development. If you're bound, if you're struggling there's a couple of ministries right now I know you can go to. You can go to Jubilee International and you come to another level where you can get supernaturally set free and discipled and delivered in the name of Jesus.
Speaker 2:You know what Babbage you were talking. I just sensed the Lord saying to some of you do not give up. You want to give up? You want to throw in the towel? Don't do it.
Speaker 2:The words that you heard today are words of encouragement, are words of wisdom, and you just need to keep pressing, keep moving forward. God is there, he wants His heart and Pastor Connie said it. His heart is to see all of you be set free. His heart is to see all of you be healed and live a life of abundance, not living a life of torment or living a life where you're still stuck in your past. He wants you to be free so that you can operate in an extreme way in your call, your purpose and your destiny. That's what he wants, you know.
Speaker 2:I just want to remind you of this scripture, you know. If you don't know it, settle it in your spirits. It was from Psalm 34 that she said. When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and rescues them from all their distress and troubles. The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and he saves those who are crushed in spirit, contrite in heart and who, in other words, truly sorry for their sin. Listen, god is on our side and he wants to go through the healing and deliverance process with you. So don't give up. You are so close, don't give up.
Speaker 1:Amen, Amen. So listen. Thank you everybody for joining with us today. Whenever you're listening to this, don't forget to go to your favorite podcast store to download this latest episode of Dimensions. We're going to be here next Thursday at seven o'clock. We may come on other days as well, but we're at least going to be weekly at seven o'clock and you can stay up to date and become the latest member of the Dimensions family If you'll download that podcast and then go to Facebook and YouTube. Make sure you go to our podcast there and share, like, subscribe, follow all of that stuff. I like to always remind people to do that. It only takes a second, but what it does, it helps us to get the word out as well, and I firmly believe in what we're doing here and the message and the ministry we're bringing across to you. We have a little bit of fun, we have some laughter, but then we're getting into the nitty and the gritty. So join us next Thursday at 7 o'clock. Is there anything else you want to mention before we let the people go?
Speaker 2:Nope, I think you wrapped it up.
Speaker 1:It has been a good time. We love you, we appreciate you. Get your healing, get your deliverance, get your breakthrough. Get into church this weekend and then guess what? I'll be with them this Sunday, Sunday morning, I'll be with them ministering and it's going to be awesome. I'll tell you what she's got a great church, y'all I mean man, oh man, oh man. Oh man, it's easy to preach there.
Speaker 3:That church makes preaching easy Kind of my own Hallelujah.
Speaker 1:So God bless you all. Have a wonderful night and we'll see you next time on Dimensions. Thank you,
