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Breaking Generational Chains: A Conversation on Spiritual Freedom and Healing with Special Guest Dr. Connie Brooks
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We dive into the powerful yet often misunderstood topics of healing and deliverance with Dr. Connie Brooks, exploring the differences between these two crucial aspects of spiritual freedom.
• Healing and deliverance are distinctly different—you heal emotional wounds but cast out demons
• Theotherapy works with inner healing to address toxic emotions and heart issues
• Soul ties aren't necessarily demonic but can create strongholds that require breaking
• The Holy Spirit is the revealer of truth who shows what's really happening during deliverance
• Generational curses block generational blessings and must be broken to release family inheritance
• After deliverance, changing your environment is critical to maintaining freedom
• Identify your personal triggers to avoid falling back into old patterns
• Forgiveness is the key that unlocks multiple layers of healing
• Some people resist freedom because they don't believe they need healing
• Breaking curses can extend to family members when you specifically include them
what's going on everybody. Welcome to another edition of. We are so glad that you've taken time out of your schedule to hang out with us, so listen, take a moment right now. Like, subscribe, follow, share all of that. Our podcast is on every platform you can get on, so make sure you go there and you can become the latest addition to the Dimensions family, and we are so excited to get into some great stuff. And I have my lovely wife alongside with me as well. I'm Jay Anthony Gilbert, my wife Tiffany.
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Speaker 1:Me too. Me too, I love it as well. And listen, we've got a great show for you guys today. It's going to be an awesome time. Our very own Dr Connie Brooks is here with us, and you know we're so excited because we're going to be talking. I will when she comes on, but you got to wait for that. You know I'm just teasing the episode.
Speaker 2:Pastor Connie, I'm just trying to give you that up for us. We're just teasing the episode.
Speaker 1:Tell her to slow down. Pastor Tim, Slow down, we're going to get there. We're going to get there. But I'm real excited because we're gonna talk about healing and deliverance and it's a lost art in the body of Christ. This is part two. We had her on back in March I believe it was a while ago and she did a part one and did a great job, and she's going to be doing a phenomenal seminar at our church tomorrow, June 20th and 21st, Friday night at 7 pm and then on Saturday, the 21st, at from 10 am to 2 pm, and it is just going to be phenomenal. So we thought it would be great for her to come on today and to be able to share with us a little bit of what's going to be coming up and what's going to be happening and kind of go from there. So it's going to be really good. I'm really excited for the ladies. That man, I'm sorry we can't go. It's a woman's thing only Now you can go if you volunteer.
Speaker 2:Maybe you'll get your freedom there when you volunteer. But yeah, we are really excited. All the women, they all have their expectors up. They're expecting God to do something extraordinary. They're expecting healing, they're expecting deliverance. And you know, it's interesting. I was sharing with Dr Connie and some of the other ladies that it's so interesting how we can love God, we can be in the word of God, we can worship, praise God, we really. You know we will end up making heaven our home, but we can live on earth in bondage and bound.
Speaker 1:Well, you know one of the scriptures that always comes to my mind when you say that is. There's a scripture that says that Jesus said to those Jews who believed on him if you continue my word, then are you my disciples, and you shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free. So he's talking to believers, and he's saying that there still can be a level of bondage in your life, even though you might be a believer. They believed on him, but they were saying but you know it's funny. In that passage, though, too, there's freedom, and he says if you continue my word, you'll become my disciple.
Speaker 1:I believe a lot of people need deliverance because they're lacking discipleship, and we're going to get into that in just a little bit. But you know it's important Deliverance and discipleship. You've got to have both of those. Some people get into bondage because they weren't discipled, and then some people get delivered and can go back into bonds because they weren't discipled. As a matter of fact, I think it's a lost art in the body of Christ that we need to be discipleship driven people.
Speaker 1:Jesus spent three and a half years before they ever got total power. We're filled with the Holy ghost. On the day of Pentecost, he spent three and a half years imparting to them kingdom. So then, therefore, they did not have power without having knowledge and understanding as to why they've been authorized. There's a responsibility because of that. So Jesus took three and a half years every day pouring into disciples, and then he gave them power and, I think, discipleship. Jesus spent his whole earthly ministry simply teaching them the kingdom that they were about to be empowered to walk in. So, listen, you need to be in church. You need to be in a church where you're getting discipled. You need to be in a church where you can get delivered and discipled all in one. It's very, very important.
Speaker 2:That's right, you know, and I think about what the Lord did on that cross he died so that we could be free, so that we could take advantage of that, so you don't want to miss out.
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Speaker 2:Pastor Jay said it's Friday, tomorrow night 7 pm. Saturday, from 10 am to 2 pm. It's going to be great. And listen, if you're just listening to this and you're thinking, oh my goodness, I want to go. Is it too late?
Speaker 2:No, it too late, no not too late Make sure that you register, though, so we're going to put up how you can register right there, there, it is right there, you can register online and if it's, maybe, if it's not you, maybe, if it's somebody else that you know that needs a physical healing, that needs an emotional healing, that may need deliverance, make sure you let them know, doesn't matter what church, what denomination, tell them to come out, because I believe the Lord is already stirring that atmosphere.
Speaker 1:I hear the chains falling, without a doubt.
Speaker 1:I believe the chains are going to be falling off of people and you need to get it. Listen, every ministry won't allow deliverance to happen. I am so glad God connected us with Dr Connie because she is one that walks in that greatly and you know what. Every person needs to have that type of ministry in their church, so that's why we're bringing it to another level. I think we said that during the last time we were going to end up doing this, when we had her on. We said we're going to make sure we do this, and so, as promised, we're going to be doing it.
Speaker 2:And you know it's interesting we were talking about before. It's our first event in our new building. It's our first event and Pastor Connie is our first speaker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's going to be really good. So are we ready to?
Speaker 1:bring her on Ladies and gentlemen, you know it is our pleasure to welcome a friend of ours, and I say that with. We are just at lunch with somebody today and we are talking about how we don't have any friends and when I say friends I'm like, oh, that's my friend, but they're really like an acquaintance. But she is truly a friend. She has been somebody that has lived a life of integrity. I share this story. Every time that it was supposed to be Dr Mark Sharona that was supposed to come to Cornerstone television to do a telethon and Pastor Gary Mitrick said, hey, dr Connie Brooks. I was like, who's Dr Connie Brooks? Well, let me tell you I told everybody this every time she speaks is that if you don't know, by the time that she's done you're going to understand who she is.
Speaker 1:She's a force to be reckoned with. She pastors a great church called Jubilee International Ministries out there in the east of Pittsburgh, I mean in Plum, pennsylvania. You know it's just an outstanding ministry. I have we have both been had the opportunity to be there, to minister there, and I tell you what that church makes preaching easy. When you go there you can preach and you know what. We've had her in our ministry. We're excited to have her back. She's been a guest on Dimensions before and she travels all around the world. She's not one of those people that it's Jubilee International Ministries but ain't going nowhere. She just got back from England doing conferences and seminars and they want her to come back to do what we're getting ready to do in another level this weekend. So, ladies and gentlemen, with no further ado, let's welcome Dr Connie Brooks to the Dimension broadcast. There's the applause pastor tip was looking for applause.
Speaker 3:I see that good evening like guys. Good to have you guys with me tonight hanging out with me I know we're so honored.
Speaker 2:We have so much fun with dr we do and listen.
Speaker 1:So those y'all that don't know now some of y'all ain't going to get in on this my goodness, their family can cook. I mean, listen, I wasn't. I share this. There's another story of how I got to know Dr Connie. She had me over and it's the first time I had been over to their house. And I'll have to be honest, dr Connie, we're friends, you know. People invite you over. You get scared, you know, scared. You don't know what they're going to put in front of you. And I tell you what they made these chicken thighs.
Speaker 2:And they were chicken thighs. I feel like you have to be a really good cook, you do. To make chicken thighs taste good.
Speaker 1:Those can be scary.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, you all are funny.
Speaker 1:Everything they cook they throw down. So now we have this little thing whenever I go to her church, most of the time that, if her schedule, my schedule permits that, we end up going over there for dinner. And I told her. I said, listen, we don't need nothing else, just feed us. It's worth it. So, dr Connie, we love you and we saw even your son is now taking on that spirit.
Speaker 3:He comes looking for barbecue meatballs. Pastor Connie, where's the barbecue meatballs?
Speaker 2:But know, but you know what you supply them. So the more that you supply them, the more that they're asking for it, so they know when they see you, we want some barbecue meatballs. We got to get some barbecue meatballs.
Speaker 3:Well, that's just family. That's what it is it is that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, before we get into all the heavy stuff you want to, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, Dr Conner, we couldn't do this with you before. We didn't have the segment we didn't have the segment, but now we have a new segment called Would you Rather, would you be willing to participate in this with us? Ok, all right. All right, let's go. Let's go Now. Did you hear her response? Oh, it seemed like a little hesitant.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. I was wondering what you were up to Well, let me tell you, it'll be as fun as some chicken thighs. I wasn't sure what y'all was up to either, but it changed my life.
Speaker 2:So it'll be good. It'll be good. So, pastor Connie, would you rather be known for being generous or humble? Humility, okay Now, why humility? That was pretty quick, you kind of knew.
Speaker 3:I just believe what the Bible says we are to be humble. I give anyway. That's easy for me to do, but I really believe we have to work and make. Especially when you work in the gifts, people can want to elevate you and you have to always remember they're not your gifts. Come on back down. Many times when I go places and I begin to flow in the gifts and the prophetic and the healing and people want to take you a certain place and you have to remember yourself, connie, that's not you, that's God working through you. So I really believe I work. I rather work on my humility.
Speaker 2:That's good because you're right. You know, when people have it to give, it's easy to give, especially when people treat you right. Yeah you'll just give. But when you're caught in a situation where you have to be humble, that is tough. That is tough to do. What would you do?
Speaker 1:Well, you know to your point also, dr Connie, before I answer that you mentioned something really good about how people try to take you someplace. It kind of reminds me of how Jesus they always tried to make him king. He understood where he needed to be at that time. Now he's coming back to be king, but it's funny though, it wasn't man that's going to elevate him. God, the father, is going to send him to do that. So I think I'm going to side with Dr Connie, and it's most of the time. Dr Connie, I usually go the opposite of somebody for whatever reason, but this one here I would agree with you, I think. If you're humble I don't know if maybe you can, I'd have to think about a little more but how are you humble and not generous?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because when you are humble you tend to want to give. You want to support, yeah, I think. But I think the humility would be first, and then it'll lead right into the generosity that you'll have, because of who you are, you know. But you will see, even when you all come to England with me and I know you all are going to come when you see how the people admire the gifts that you carry. We go to Africa, certain places, they just don't want you to stop preaching, they don't want you to stop prophesying, they don't want you to stop laying on of hands. They just they'll stay for hours. Church is over and you can't, they won't go. You have to remind yourself. You know you've got to let them go. Don't let them lean on you. It's not you, it's God that's working through you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to put this in there, insert this question. I'm just curious because you said something that they'll stay for hours. Why is that there, when here you know, a lot of times people want to get home and it's not everybody, but a lot of times people want to get home for the Steelers game. I think it's the?
Speaker 3:gifts. I think it's the gifts. I think when you go you'll see what I'm saying. I remember I was preaching in London and the men stood at the altar. When you think I'm a woman preaching and at the altar all these men, they didn't sit for the whole service. They stood there, they wanted to be there, they wanted to touch the anointing, they wanted to be right in what God was doing. They were so excited about the move of God. And then you know you're praying for people that are slain I mean hundreds of people just slain. And you have to remind yourself. You know, connie, that's not you. The Holy Spirit is working through you.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's because they're so hungry and they're desperate to see God so they place a demand on the anointing?
Speaker 3:I think our people are just spoiled. I think I think we're spoiled.
Speaker 3:I think they have the word all the time, they have the gifts around and I, you know it comes from the spirit of familiarity, I'm familiar with you, that's just Pastor Jay. And they don't realize another world, another nation would just, you know, he couldn't hardly walk the street because of the anointing that he carries, but in America it's like, oh, you know what it is. But I really believe in my heart is that the people, they are desperate. They're looking for more, more of God, because they're not seeing it on a day-to-day basis like that.
Speaker 2:Amen, that's so good. Wow, I wish we could just stay there, but I know we can't right now. Okay, so second question what is the different or, sorry, wrong one Would you rather have?
Speaker 3:the gift of prophecy or the gift of tongues, ah, hmm, that's a good one. I believe they tie into each other. I will say the um, the gift of tongues, because I think they go right into the gift of the prophetic. When you speak in tongues generally, you walk into the interpretation of the tongues. So I believe I would be like to walk in the gift of tongues and then watch God reveal it.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's right. So yeah, I uh man that's a tough one.
Speaker 3:Yeah I, I don't know you feel so well in the prophetic easy that's automatic yeah but it's.
Speaker 1:it's very unique to be able to when you pray. You know the difference, dr Connie, I know you know this as well. There are times when you're praying in your tongue that God's given you for personal edification, but then you feel a switch in the spirit when you pray in a tongue where the gift of interpretation is needed and when you flow in. That I mean it's amazing to see how you'll start praying, praying. All of a sudden it'll hit you and I'll know. I'll be like, ooh, something's coming after this one. And then all of a sudden, whether it's myself or somebody else, you know you get that interpretation and God will just. Sometimes we've seen that God will shift our services after something like that.
Speaker 1:So that's a tough one, man. I'm trying to figure out which one would I rather pick. I think I'd probably take the prophecy one, because that's what I'm familiar with, but I would miss the gift of time. I could never flow in that again, okay.
Speaker 2:Well, that's all right. Last one Would you rather be known for being forgiving, which is sometimes so hard, or patient, which is sometimes so hard?
Speaker 1:That's another tough one. That's another tough one.
Speaker 3:That's another tough one. Yeah, that really is, because I teach a lot of forgiveness because of theotherapy and deliverance. How powerful. I always say to God I'm so grateful for the gift of forgiveness because it's such a powerful gift when you're able to forgive 70 times seven. So that's, I think I'm going to go with forgiveness. I want to be known as someone who takes people off the hook quickly and not walk around and hold them hostage for days, and I don't want that. I don't want to be known for that.
Speaker 2:That's good. Well, you know, I feel the same way. You know, when you forgive, there's freedom in forgiveness. You know what I mean. Where you think you're holding them, you're actually holding yourself, and I think, pastor, marriage taught me the power of forgiveness.
Speaker 3:That was my greatest teaching tool was my marriage and how to be able to forgive, and forgive quickly, because when the Bible says you bring two people together and they become one, it doesn't tell you of all of the things you have to go through and break through to get to that place. You know, forgiveness is my. I think that's my greatest tool. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:You know I, you know it's funny. I first I was going to say is that kind of like question one? But I don't think it is. I'm a pretty forgiving guy but I can't continue not to be patient, so I don't know which one that is yeah, right, right right uh, but I mean honestly, I uh, I thought about that because I thought, well, if you're patient, you're kind of, but no, that's two different things, yeah, you know that's too now, long suffering.
Speaker 1:It's a little bit different than even just patience in itself. So I mean, I man, yeah, I think for me I would take patience, because I'm not good at that, you know. But I. I have a very forgiving heart, Like I have you. It's because a lot of times I'll let people in probably quicker than I should and I'll just bring them right in and she'll be like what? Are you doing man, that boy, that brother, that sister is crazy. Yes, yes, like that.
Speaker 2:So, but, then the patience part.
Speaker 1:Oh man, yeah we help each other with that. I think there's a balance with that without a doubt where.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, don't trust them.
Speaker 1:And then I'll tell you open up your heart. You know we need to let them in and just be in such a lowly spirit. Which one is which? So I probably take the patient's one, because that's not my number. One thing. So that's good Staffing, my weakness All right. Well, that was fun. Thanks for being a good sport.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, while we're transitioning, we're about to get into the bread, the meat and the potatoes of what we're about to get into. So take a minute, like, subscribe, follow, share, let everybody know on YouTube, Facebook, wherever you are. Take a moment right now, get this out, because we're about to get into the crux of what we want to get into. So I'm going to let you take it.
Speaker 2:That's right. So let's get into it. Pastor Connie, on this eve of the healing and deliverance seminar and there's again, like I said before, there's so many women that are. I mean, they are ready and they are expecting something. Now would you kind of just differentiate, make the difference between healing when somebody needs healing versus when somebody needs deliverance?
Speaker 3:Right? Well, healing and deliverance is so different. Like tomorrow, I'm dealing with theotherapy, which talks about inner healing, and with theotherapy it's a tool. I give them tools to use to work on their heart, work on the emotions. When you talk about deliverance, you can't heal a demon. You can't. You know you don't heal a demon, you cast out a demon. If you study the works of Jesus, you don't see him laying hands on a demon. He's always casting it out. So there's a very big difference between healing and deliverance.
Speaker 3:The Bible says in Jeremiah 17, the heart is deceitful and, above all things, wicked. I don't think we realize how deceitful our hearts can be. You just think about somebody that you've really loved a year, five years ago they were your everything, they were your boo, and five years later you don't even want to be in the same room with them. The same heart, that same heart can transition from I love you that much to I hate you that much. And what happens if we don't deal with the heart? The heart becomes toxic and it's not able to handle and flow through the things that God wants to flow through it. So there's a big difference between inner healing and deliverance, because deliverance really deals with strongholds, demonic activity, familiar spirits, things that run in the bloodline.
Speaker 1:You know Dr Conner, real quick. I want you to go back to something. I don't even know if I know the exact answer to this, so I'm asking it out of curiosity. Uh, you said jesus didn't lay hands on people. He cast it out. In your expertise, do you not lay hands on people when you're casting out devils? Is it always that you just directly speak to them? And is that what jesus always did, or did he ever lay hands? Because I'm not quite sure well, what?
Speaker 3:when you look at him, um, he talks about. When he talks about the demonic forces and the demons in the tombs and different things. You see, he would just call it out, he'll cast it out. You know, when you see, like the woman with the issue of blood, she touched him, there was a touch there. But when you're talking about all the demonic forces you don't see that a lot of times, and I tell people a lot of times, when you're dealing with demonic forces, they don't want to come near you anyway.
Speaker 1:That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3:They try to tend to back up or they tend to growl or they tend to make sounds because they don't want you to be bothered with them. But when you're dealing with strongholds, such as something that I have, I have what is called a family tree and I give them to the people and say look in your family, I want you to look to see how many people in your family have had an abortion, how many people in your family have had suicidal tendencies or different things. If it's been in your mother, your father, different people in the family then there's a stronghold in your family because it's running in more than one part of the family, becomes a familiar spirit, and so we've got to look and see what is that? What is that? Something that needs to be cast out, something that needs to be broken. That's what we're looking for when we're dealing with deliverance, when we're dealing now with the heart and the inner healing. Many times we're looking at a heart that's toxic. I can be in a relationship and that relationship broke my heart.
Speaker 3:I have a picture that I show. I hope I can show you all what I'm doing. This is a picture that I show in one of my classes. This is what a woman who's been promiscuous looks like. Of my classes, this is. This is what a woman who's been promiscuous looks like. These are all the relationships that can still reside in the heart of someone who has, who has been with different relationships.
Speaker 3:They're coming from the world. They've been with four, four men in a month, five men in a month and all, all of their bodily fluids are still in that person. If they've been intimate with that person, they have left. If we're fluids, we're human beings, but the fluid in that person, if they've been intimate with that person, they have left there. We're fluids, we're human beings, but the fluid of that person is left in that person. And many times you find people have a lot of illnesses because they're carrying around so many different. That's why we have so many sexual diseases, because it's left in the body. So if that's left in the body, what about the spirit of the man? What about that water, that cell? And it's left there. So that's one of the things we talk about is what is left in you that leaves you toxic, that leaves you angry, that leaves you bitter, that leaves you betrayed. These things are all in there. How do I deal with that and getting that out of my heart? That's what we deal with a lot in the inner healing.
Speaker 1:You know I was thinking when you're talking about how people that have been promiscuous whether one or a thousand doesn't matter who they've been with is when you're talking. You know people talk about soul ties. Is soul ties is that? Would you look at that as a demonic type thing or is that kind of like an inner healing thing? Soul?
Speaker 3:ties is not demonic. It's not. It is not demonic but it's. We've got to be very, very careful with it because it does a lot of damage. Strongholds are there. I remember Bishop Tudor Bismarck. We were in a session with Bishop Tudor. He was teaching us on deliverance at the time and he was saying about a couple who was married and the man was involved with a woman and he had been with a woman and one day I think they were at the supermarket or something and the woman came and got him and he walked away from his wife and never looked back because of the soul ties connected with her. She used witchcraft and stuff to draw him away from his marriage because she had a tie with him. He had cut covenant it wasn't covenant but a contract really because he had been with her. So he gave her legal right to come get him.
Speaker 1:So is that more of a. Would that be an inner healing piece, then? Soul ties legal right to come get him.
Speaker 3:So is that more of a? Would that be an inner healing piece, then? Sometimes the inner healing sometimes it goes into deliverance Depends on how strong the holy, because sometimes they go as far as witchcraft to keep that person. Yeah, you know, sometimes it's just a heart, it's a betrayal. It all depends on what every case is different. When I handle that, it's so important for us to understand.
Speaker 3:Theotherapy really helps us to take a good look at the heart. What condition is my heart in? After I've been through a divorce, after I've been through a breakup, after I feel rejected, after I felt all of these things, what am I feeling? It really helps me clean my heart, because the Bible says out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. If my heart is toxic, you ever been around someone? They're gorgeous, but when they open their mouth you realize they're angry, they're bitter, it's just flowing because that's what's in there. And although they're dressed up the outside, the heart never got cleaned. And so and the Bible says the heart is deceitful the heart will tell you I'm OK, until somebody says no, you're not.
Speaker 3:And I remember earlier in my time in ministry I was going through something and my sister said you're not yourself. I said, oh yes, I am. She said no, you're not, you're snappy, you're losing your edge, you're going, you're getting upset too quickly. And I'm like I never noticed that. But it took my sister to say to me, connie, you're carrying more than you need to. And then I had to address it. I had to say she's right. So I got in the presence of God, starting telling God how angry I was, how frustrated I was, and that's when he could say to me well, look at that, because you said to everybody today oh, I'm blessed, I'm good, but look at the condition of your heart.
Speaker 2:That is so good. You know, all this is, it's all this is good information. I mean, already I don't, I want to, kind of just I could stay here all night, pastor Connie, but can I just go back just really quick, because we were talking about you asked the question did, did anybody, did Jesus touch anybody physically to heal? And then you mentioned to cast out devils.
Speaker 2:Cast out devils, but now the woman with the issue of blood. She touched him His garment Right, so it wasn't him, but did anybody? Was there anybody else that he touched to cast out devils?
Speaker 3:You remember the gentleman that had the son that the disciples could not heal him? You know what I'm saying. And they wanted to know why they couldn't do it. And he said something does not go out without prayer and fasting. Remember that he had to literally cast the demon out of them because they weren't able to do it. They had the ability to do it, but I don't think their faith was strong enough to do it.
Speaker 3:So most of the time when you look in the New Testament, he is casting out a demon or he is sending it up into the grave site. He's putting it out of the territory, he's getting it out of the area, but you don't see him walking up and laying hands on the pig or laying hands on the thing to cast that. You know what I'm saying. But then he's the same person that will go to Jairus' house. He's the same person that will go and see about Peter's mom. He's just that kind of God. He's hands-on. But when it comes to demonic forces, I don't see the Lord going around just laying hands on demonic forces is what I'm saying. Yeah, he can spot it a mile. He can see what that's a stronghold there. He can speak to that.
Speaker 1:And it makes sense too, because really laying on hands is about a transference no-transcript Theotherapy comes in about seven components.
Speaker 3:One it helps us to become emotionally stable. I teach people how to process anger. When you're angry, the Bible said to be angry and sin not. You don't have a right, when you're angry, to take it out on me. You don't have a right to take it out on your family. But we give you tools on how to get rid of anger without offending someone or hurting someone or being nasty to someone. So we give you tools to do that. It's so important for us to be emotionally stable and today we see a lot of mental especially since COVID a lot of mental detachments, people not really lining things up properly in their thinking and in their thought patterns. It also helps us to become vulnerable before God and be aware of the attacks of Satan.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of times we show people listen, that's the enemy fighting. The Bible said he goes to and fro seeking whom he may devour. He's looking for things to bring accusations against us and many times we say we are Christians. But then we can curse, we can say words, we can do things, we can be One of the things the Lord said to me a few weeks ago two things that are going to divide the church is the spirit of offense and distraction.
Speaker 3:He said they are distracted Even if you are preaching, let something drop. Everybody looks. They're so quickly distracted. And the other thing is some people don't even know why they're offended, but they're offended. You can't correct people today without them being offended, even though you're trying to grow them. So what we're saying to them the reason you can't accept correction is because I'm triggering you. You're upset at me because I'm correcting you and the real problem is not me. You're mad at your father and mother. That's where the problem started, but you are mad. You don't want me to correct you. So they have problems with leadership. Many people in the church today don't like to be told. They don't understand the power of submission. So what they're feeling oh, you're trying to control me, and what it is is their heart is so hardened because of the kind of leadership and control that's been in their lives so they're not able to navigate to say this person really loves me, they want the best of me, all they can think of. Why are you trying to control me?
Speaker 2:Wow, wow, that's so good. You know, as the women once again, you know, the women are ready, they're ready to go. What would you say, like if a woman was getting or wanting deliverance? What would hinder that woman from getting deliverance or receiving the healing?
Speaker 3:the healing Number one. They have to believe they need it. Some people don't believe I didn't need it. Sometimes, you know, it amazes me. Some people believe they're okay. They honestly do. I'm fine. I'm fine, you know I was.
Speaker 3:I remember I was working with one of my clients and I said to her you're angry? She said's happening, I'm triggering you. That's one of the words you'll hear a lot in theotherapy I'm triggering you, I am causing. Whatever I'm saying is going down and touching something that's very soft in your life. You can't. You can't maneuver around it and you don't know how to deal with it. So you're getting angry.
Speaker 3:I said but let's find out why you're angry. Is it? Do you have problems with female leaders? Do you have problems with authority? What is it that's causing you not to be able to hear me? And all of a sudden you'll see them start kind of getting soft, this kind of just kind of breaking in the presence of God, and they're saying you know, this person raped me, or this person molested me, or this person did this. And ever since then I said I'll never let anybody do this to me, I'll never let anybody in, and that's what you'll find out. And as soon as we start getting in there and it starts unraveling. It starts like I call it an onion. We start peeling off layers and then you'll begin to see somebody who will go right back to where they were.
Speaker 3:Seven years old I was molested by my uncle or was molested by the babysitter, and I didn't tell my parents. I've walked around with this for years, but I always said I was going to protect my heart. I was never going to let anybody in. So now I'm in church and you're trying to befriend me. I don't know what you want. What do you want? All of a sudden, defenses go up and you don't want anything. You're just trying to pastor them.
Speaker 1:Wow, well, you know one of the things too, dr Connie, that with people, once they come to that point right, like you're in the middle of a session with them, or maybe it's going to be Friday night, and you start getting like some of those layers, how far do you need to go until you know all right, this is where the freedom kicks in, this is where the deliverance is going to happen, or is it just all right? They said you know, something happened. I was raped when I was seven years old. All right, so now we're just going to pray for that and then is it over with what? What's kind of the process after you start exposing kind of those layers?
Speaker 3:We've got to go back and find out who did it, because normally if someone is molested or raped, there's a smell that's left, there's an odor that left. Sometimes, what I find when someone, if they were molested from, like an uncle or somebody, they'll say, oh, I can smell their perfume, I can smell their cologne. Oh, every time I smell that cologne, I hate it and I realize, oh, there was something at that point that left something there and that thing triggers them. And so, even if the person is no longer around, if somebody sprays that cologne, they're like oh, what's that? It's something that goes all the way back to their childhood. So once they get us back there, we're going to say, okay, let's deal with.
Speaker 3:What was the smell in the room? How did you feel at that time? How did you feel, violet? Why didn't you say anything? Because, oh, I did say to my mom, but she didn't believe me because it was her brother. I said, okay then. So mom didn't protect you like she would. So now we've got to forgive mom. So you see all the layers there. We've got to forgive mom, we've got to forgive the uncle that did it. We've got to get that person back on track and say listen, but you have to forgive them because if you keep holding them hostage, you won't be able to receive the things that God has for you, and you don't want to miss all of the blessings. So let's get these layers off, let's take off this, let's forgive this one, let's forgive that one. We start peeling the layers off and it's usually through forgiveness.
Speaker 2:Wow. So you all better listening you, and if you're not registered yet, you want to register, because I believe that people are going to leave free, healed and whole by the power of the Holy Spirit. You know, dr Connie. As the women are preparing to come tomorrow, how would you encourage them to pray? Should they pray in a specific way upon entering?
Speaker 3:I think they need to pray for their hearts to be opened. You know, this is the first time, god, let me be vulnerable in your presence, let me open. The Bible says so clearly to us that the Bible says I know the plans I have for you. It's good, it's not evil. I have hope for you. Let God show you what he has for you. Come with your heart open so that when you remove the debris, when you remove the anger, the bitterness, what can flow out of the abundance of my heart? What new does God want to bring to and attract to me? You become so more attractive when you let go all of that anger and bitterness and toxic behavior. And sometimes people feel, oh, I'm fine, there's nothing, I'm just, I'm really good. But I'm telling you you really need to pray that God opened my heart and I'm going to teach a lot of that tomorrow the seed and the heart. How important it is. So, when the word of God comes, you can.
Speaker 3:Somebody always says to me this. I said, pastor Connie, why does it seem as though your prophetic words always come to pass and we sit here and our prophetic words are not coming to pass? Well, number one, whenever I get a prophetic word. My heart has to be able to receive it. I believe it. Pastor Jay comes to the church and says God is saying this. I write it in my notebook and I go home and I pray over it and say God, pastor Jay has declared this over me and I know this is from the throne room of God. My heart has to be open to it. And then I start asking God, is this a now prophecy? Is this for this year, two years from now, five years from now? Because if it's now, I don't want to miss it. I start talking to God and holding dear the word that was given to me, but if my heart is toxic, I'm going to be like. Sure he's saying God going to bless me with money. What money? I've been broke all my life. Everybody in my family been broke.
Speaker 1:That's how I hear it no-transcript If we don't have the soil right to receive the word. A lot of times, the things that we've been through I think a lot of times too, dr Connie people don't realize the stuff that happened when they were kids. The devil's been plotting for years for the moment that they're coming into right now and I believe even right now there's people that are watching that God wants you to realize that, even as you attend this seminar, you need to come in with an open heart, because God is. You have to have an open heart for the open door that God is bringing into your life, and the devil has plotted for years to try to get you to this point, because you are actually at the point where you're about to cross the threshold into a new level and into a new dimension and the devil is trying to plant. He planted things for years in your heart and this is the time for you to get purified, to get cleansed, to get healed. So now, what you're hearing and going to be receiving in this new season, you can walk in the blessing of God.
Speaker 1:I really believe that there are people watching right now that you are been bad. Even as she's talking, you're like man. She's definitely talking to me, man. It means you need to get to this seminar. Some of you, even as you're watching and as you're listening, you're like man. You know, I know so-and-so man. There's somebody that I know that's battling with this. This might be their answer. You need to go get them and bring them out, because the devil's been plotting for years. God wants to uproot those things so then he can plant, even as he said in Jeremiah, those new things in your heart to bring you into the destiny that God has for you.
Speaker 3:You know, pastor can I say something, pastor? When you asked me about how to prepare, the Bible says this in Ezekiel 36, 26, I will give you a new heart, a new spirit I'll put within you and I will remove the old heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. So many people's heart is so damaged that God has to give them a new heart. He has to renew their heart because it's become so callous.
Speaker 3:I used to do cosmetology, teach cosmetology, and for years I had a callous on my finger for the years and I noticed how hard it became after a while. And the Lord reminded me of how the heart can become like that when you allow things to be angry and bitter and upsetting in your heart. And he said trust me with all of your heart, but if my heart is toxic and filled with stuff, I can't trust God with all my heart. So that's why I'm not seeing my healing, that's why I'm not seeing my deliverance, because I can't trust you. I trust you a little bit, but I don't have that whole heart to give to you, god, because I've got uncle in there, I've got rejection in there, I've got bitterness in there, I've got offenses in there and I'm holding on to it because I have a right to be mad.
Speaker 1:And that shows you how how that's so powerful. Because that a lot of people don't realize they're hearing incorrectly and seeing things incorrectly through the wrong lens, through the wrong spirit, based upon a filter that they've been through in their past. And I believe that, even as people are coming out over this weekend, god is going to remove the filters. There are some of you listening right now that you've actually there have been words spoken to you and, like Dr Connie mentioned earlier, oh, I've been broke my whole life. Some of the words you can't even hear it because your heart is tainted. It is the spirit of the Lord that is actually talking to you, but you have blocked it out and God wants to uproot those filters he wants to uproot. Give you that new heart and that new spirit, and I believe, even right now, you need to just ask the Lord right now God, give me a new heart, god give me a new spirit. I believe that, even as you're willing to do that, god is going to begin to move in your heart and bring healing. And even those of you that are listening and watching, they're going to be there over the weekend. Your heart already is being prepared to receive, because God is ready to take you into new dimension. You are going to hear differently after this weekend. Some of you are going to see differently. Your prophetic gift is going to be more finely tuned. You're going to have a greater gift of discernment. You're no longer going to be a skeptic. You're going to have the gift of discernment operating in your life. So listen, go right now.
Speaker 1:Brad, bring up again how people can go and register for this seminar. You need to come on out. You can text the word healing to 412-586-7159. Tomorrow night, friday, june 20th, at seven o'clock. Saturday, the 21st June 21st, at from 10 am to 2 pm. Get there, get your healing. Let God uproot those things so then he can begin to pour his newness. You know, the scripture comes to my mind, babe, about in Jeremiah, chapter one. I believe it was chapter one where he told Jeremiah you're gonna root out, you're gonna pluck up. He said, you're gonna pull down and then you're going to build and plant. God is ready to plant and build some things in your life, but he's got to uproot the old and if you allow him to do that, you're going to see and hear differently.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, pastor. Just wanted to say what pastor was saying about rooting up. There's a young lady in my worship team right now. When she was a little girl she sang in the church. One of the mothers at the church told her you can't sing, you can't sing gospel, you need to stop. That word crippled her because it was a mother in the church so she wouldn't sing. So she joined my ministry and she asked me to sing and I was like why won't you sing out? Why won't you sing out? So in one of my theotherapy classes I said to her there's something that happened that has crippled your voice. Why are you not singing? And she broke down, started crying and said the mother told me I'm not a gospel singer, I don't need to be singing. If you hear the melody, the smoothness of her voice, you would not believe that someone had crippled her with those words.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:We had to root that up. We had to get rid of that. Her words don't have power over you anymore. She doesn't know you. God knows you. God created, he knows you. Remember what the Bible says he knows you, he created you. She didn't create your voice box. She didn't give you that melody, she didn't give you that song. And now when she opens up her mouth, she said I am shocked at my own response to me because of what had been said to her. That's how powerful words are. And when you have a child and you say you're stupid, you're dumb, you're just like your dad, you're ugly, you're dark, when you put those words in a child because they don't respond right away does not mean it's not still in there. I tell them all the time. Our bodies are like Prego it's in there and until we take it out and discard it, we walk around damaged for years. I have 50 and 60 year olds that have been damaged from seven and eight years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know. It's amazing, though, how many people walk around just all the time in the church, in the workplace, and they have all that in there and they function with it. They're functioning with that. But I believe this too. You know you were talking about uprooting and building and planting.
Speaker 2:I believe that, as you come and you get healed and you get delivered, it's not just about you, it's about your kids, it's about your kids' kids. It's generational. That's going to take place. There are some of you that are going to come and generational curses are going to be broken off of you Generational curses that have to do with the physical arena, generational curses that have to do with the emotional arena, generational curses just at large. I just really sense that that that is going to be destroyed by the power of the Holy Spirit. That, as you come tomorrow night, as you come on Saturday, I even encourage you to expect that.
Speaker 2:If you know, some of you know that it's generational. You know a woman. We were praying for her and she said one of the things she said. She said you know what? It's just in my family. Well, you don't have to say that we do. Oh my, my. My mother had high blood pressure. My father had this, my, my grandfather had this. You don't have to receive that, you don't have to live in that. That is something that you can break, and your kids now as a result, when you come and you get delivered and you get healed now, your kids now it's a whole different generation that you're making at that point.
Speaker 1:And I want to take it a step further too, because when you said about generational curses are being broken, I felt the Lord spoke to me and said the purpose of a generational curse is to block generational blessings.
Speaker 1:Yes, you think about it when they applied the blood over the doorposts of their house in Egypt. They came, they went in that last time as slaves, but they left out as sons. And what did they do? They spoiled Egypt. That was their granddaddy's inheritance, that was their great granddad. They took all of that with them when they go and I believe there's people watching and listening right now. You have been appointed and anointed to break the generational curse. You will get in there and you have. It'll be passed on, even to your posterity. You know, I really believe that, dr Connie, that there are people that are going to come there, that when they go in that weekend, when they come out of that weekend, they're going to step into a level of generational blessing that they've never had before.
Speaker 3:I believe that. I believe it because I know a lot of things that I have received is because I broke those things in my family when I got revelation of what theotherapy, the years I studied theotherapy, the years I worked in deliverance, when I was able to do it for my family and look at my children's wealth, the wealth that they are building, the things that my family never had. But my family is able to receive that now because I was able to break that now, because I was able to break that, the abuse that was in my family, that I was able to break so many things God showed me over the years and studying this, that happened in my family. I have a litany of things I could tell you about that happened in my family that I had to literally break so they didn't come into my children's life and into my marriage. Oh yeah, oh, it's so important. It's so important to realize, like Pastor says, you can break those familiar spirits, you can break those generational curses so that the generational blessings can begin to flow into your family.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, one of the things that's Friday night. We're talking about theotherapy on Friday and then Saturday you're going to get into the whole deliverance portion.
Speaker 3:Deliverance area, yes, and that's dealing with any kind of witchcraft. We have people that come from third world nations, the Caribbean. They work with obia witchcraft. They work with voodoo dolls, they work with all of that stuff. We like to look into those things and say, listen, where's your genealogy, where are you from? Do you know what's in your line, what's in your lineage? And we talk about that and breaking some of those things.
Speaker 3:Then, if there's divorce in your family, how many people in your family are divorced? Is that a stronghold? Is there suicide in your family? How many people have you ever heard talk of suicidal tendencies in your family? Let's look back into some of you and say, like, when you go to your family reunion, how many people in your family smoking and drinking? Is there an alcohol problem in your family? Because one of the things I teach, when you hit a crisis, if you're not strong in God, you're going to go back to what's familiar, and it's usually they're going to go to the alcohol, or they're going to go back to the cigarette, or they're going to go to the marijuana. They're going to go back to what's familiar. They might be in the church, but when the church has disappointed them and they never got delivered. They're going to go back to what's familiar. They're going to go get that drink.
Speaker 2:Now, dr Connie, you know, if you have a family member, say you're coming in, you're getting delivered, how far does that deliverance and healing extend and what I mean like the fruit of that? So what I mean by that say, if you know I come in, I get delivered and I get healed and generational curses are being broken. Say, if I have a family member, that is, I have a niece or a nephew or something like that, me breaking that, does that extend directly to them?
Speaker 3:Well, the Bible talks about going up to the fourth generation, so you can go back into generations and do this. One of the things the Holy Spirit is a reveal of a truth. In Book of John he says he's a spirit of truth. One of the things I do is ask the Holy Spirit tell me the truth regarding this person. What is this that they're actually battling with? How far does this go? He can go back to the end of time. He can go back to the beginning of time. He's the alpha and the maker. He's the beginning and the end. He knows everything. So one of the things that I will ask the Holy Spirit, which is the reveal of truth show me what I'm battling.
Speaker 3:I was in England a few weeks ago and we had a manifestation of a snake. The person was just wiggling like a snake in the service and I said well, god, is that a snake? He said, well, god, is that a stake? He said no, that's a Leviathan. He said break that now. And as soon as we broke it, her body just kind of lifted up and dropped. It's just like broken off of her. And so you have to ask the Holy Spirit because you don't know Sometimes, when you're doing the deliverance, you say God, what is the spirit that is manifesting here? And it will hide from you and they'll say I'm not answering you. I said, well, holy Spirit, show me what it is, and he will show you right away what you're dealing with. That's why it's so important not to do healing and deliverance without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the revealer of truth.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right, amen.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I think you were asking Dr Connie. She was mentioning, like, say, for example, if I go there this weekend, right, and I get free, will my current nieces and nephews that are alive today? Will that deliverance extend to them?
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, if you call their names, if you put them in the bloodline, yeah, you call out who it is. You know, it's important for you to know who they are and what they're battling with, because everybody doesn't battle with the same thing. But you can begin to break everything off of you up to the third and the fourth generation. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, and I think that's so important that people understand that that lot can be riding on you. Some of you may be fighting warfare. We're fasting right now. My wife and her team, they're all going in on it to because they want to be prepared for the atmosphere and get ready, because some of you may be battling things right now. Keep a lookout for the enemy.
Speaker 1:Even from now, you get their distractions, like she mentioned, because the devil does not want you to get your freedom, you know. Another question that I have, dr Connie, is after this happens, all right, they come through, they get to Theo therapy, they get delivered. What is their responsibility now, moving forward? I leave out of the seminar. I know I'm free or maybe I'm still battling some things. What are the steps they need to take, depending on where they are?
Speaker 3:The Bible says when a house is swept and clean, if you go back into that same environment it's going to come back worse than it was before. So one of the things I always tell people if I'm going to take someone through deliverance, I want to know where they live. Who are you living with? Are you living in an adulterous situation? I won't take them through deliverance. If they are in a drug infested house and they can't move right away, I don't take them through deliverance. You know why, if I take them through deliverance, they get delivered and they go back into a house filled with drug addiction. It's going to be worse for them.
Speaker 3:So I would set them up for private time once they're out of that environment. But if you take them through deliverance and they go back into the same environment, they can be worse than they are. But if they've come through deliverance and they're ready now for freedom, what we deal with now is maintenance. Don't go back into that situation or don't go into that area or you got to let go that relationship because you don't want to open yourself up to be worse than you were before. So if they're really ready for healing, we give them what I say is maintenance. They usually get a letter and I show them how to write letters to God to maintain their healing, to maintain their deliverance. Talking to God about it, I give them tools. When they leave this weekend they'll have tools, things that they'll know what to do on their own when we're not around.
Speaker 2:You know, that's so true. I used to work with somebody at the center. There was a woman that came by. She needed some other things but she was helped on drugs. And there was one day it was interesting. I said, hey, listen, I'll meet you down here and we'll do A, b and C. Well, I called her and called her and called her, couldn't find her, you know, answer nothing. And then she, she would say there was one time where she picked up, I'll be there. But she never showed up and but she wanted to be free. But it was interesting because I said, well, what happened? And she said it's so easy there. She said they knock on my door, I'm there. She had to move. Once she moved, dr Connie, she came back. I didn't even recognize who she was. She was clean, she was hooked up. I mean, she was she, she went back she got a job.
Speaker 3:She had her job.
Speaker 2:I mean she looked totally different, but she had to move.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can when you go back you get, you come back. Worse, I have people who have left the church, had been through deliverance and went back out there. When they came back they didn't even look like themselves. They were so messed up because we tried to explain to them we cannot take you to deliverance if you're going to go back and some of them wind up going back to live with the guy, wind up going back and they come back and they're in such bad shape they really don't get the freedom until they make a decision to move out of that. I will not do deliverance on someone who's living in an adulterous relationship or is in promiscuous relationship and is going back home, like if they're living with someone and tonight they're going back home with that person. I'm not doing that. I said I will not be helping you.
Speaker 3:I will be hurting you because, you're going back into sin and the wages of sin is death. You're going to bring this back on yourself and the house is sept and clean now. So he's coming back with seven more demons. He's coming back with his friends, you know, and that's what you don't want. So you have to be very careful. That's why I say I hear people doing deliverance all the time and I was like but you have to teach them how to handle deliverance, otherwise they will go out.
Speaker 3:And I had a lady one time. She said oh, there's no men in the church. I'm going to get a husband. I'll be back to say but yes, I'm telling you, if you go out there, you're not going to come back in any good shape. She lost her mind. She married someone. He was a drug addict, he died of a drug overdose and then she literally walking around now like she don't even know who she is. But she wouldn't take counsel, she would not. And every now and again I will get a call from her and say Pastor, I want to come back. But pastor, I want to come back. But I said I told you when you go back, it was going to be difficult. Whenever you're ready to come back, come and she said no, no, no, she's still looking for, still looking for another husband still looking for somebody else and it's not destroying her life.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, you know another scenario that kind of popped in my mind as you're talking if somebody gets free right, and they do sweep up the house, does the devil still sometimes come by and knock to try to get a new place? And if he does, what is your advice to them? Maybe it's somebody who's dealing with, maybe it's a past relationship, but they can tell. Or maybe it's an unforgiveness piece or something He'll come back and remind them. Now they know they got their freedom, they've been free, but he'll still come and knock. What do they do in that moment?
Speaker 3:They've got to know what triggers them, like, okay, I have somebody right now who is dealing with alcoholism, they're battling alcoholism, they've gone, they're going through a deliverance, they're going through healing. And I asked them what made you pick up the bottle this time? Okay, you've been, you've gone through healing, you've gone through deliverance. What makes you pick up the bottle this time? And they're angry at their father. And so when the father said something, it triggered them. They went and started drinking.
Speaker 3:What happens is we have triggers and if we're not aware what of our triggers are, something can come up again to make us want to go back to the old ways. That's why it's so important that you know who your triggers are. Okay, if I know my father and I don't get along, I need to stay away from him till I'm strong enough to handle him. I can't go over there this weekend. I can't come. I can't come, dad, I'm sorry, I can't. I'm in the process of something right now and I can't come. You're trying to get yourself. That's why, even when you go to the AA anonymous classes and different things they show you how you have to be able to get away from that environment. They even give you a sponsor to hold you accountable, because they know the enemy is going to come knocking on the door wanting to draw you back into what's familiar, and it's usually by someone you know.
Speaker 1:People, places and things. They always say in AA or NA that you have to be aware. You have to change all three. All three have to be changed.
Speaker 2:Same way in deliverance.
Speaker 1:Yep In order to stay free.
Speaker 2:So there's some relationships that you just have to say.
Speaker 3:You have to say no to. You have to say okay, if they come down, it's your own parents, but if they're toxic, if they're nasty, they're rude, if they're drinking in front of you, even though they know you're trying to get it, can't go there. You can't. And although you love them, you have to love them from a distance. We have to teach people how to love from a distance that's good preaching and it's possible without being offended yeah
Speaker 3:exactly because you're saving your life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. They decide to remain toxic. God has brought you out and god is saving your life, and so you have to get to a place where you want to be saved. You want to be made whole, you know. That's why he asked the man at the pool of Bethesda do you want to be made whole? Do you want this? Because you have an option. You can stay here and have them move you to move in water, or you can be totally healed and move on with your life. But it's going to cost you because you won't have somebody to pick you up and do this for you anymore. You're going to have to stand on your feet.
Speaker 1:You know something that you mentioned I think is really good too. I think it's. You don't hear it preached very often, but we all know the passage where Jesus said if your eye offends, you pluck it out. I mean. I mean, that's serious business, right there. You know, he's saying well, I have a right to decide now. This is going to take you to hell, that's right.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly. You have this friend. He's my buddy. We've been buddies from high school, but every time you go out with him, you wind up at a bar. Every time you go out with him, you're sleeping with someone. Or you have this girlfriend. Every time we go out, we wind up doing this. Well then, that's not the person you need to be with. You love them. I have a. Well, I can't because I have church on Sunday. I haven't spoken to her in 30 years.
Speaker 1:That night she walked away and never looked back at me, never looked back.
Speaker 3:I don't even know where she is today. And we were I'm not saying tight. Well, the children were together, we were close and when I said seen her again, the Lord never allowed me to see her again.
Speaker 1:There was one less opportunity to take it again.
Speaker 3:Yes, and if I went with her, I don't think I would have served the Lord at the time when I did, but the Lord was making sure that I was making that clean cut. And there's times in life where you have to say you know you have to sever it.
Speaker 2:You do Because I think, pastor Connie, if you don't sever it, then your eternity, where you spend eternity, is at jeopardy, whether you spend it in eternity with the Lord in heaven or whether you spend it in, you know, on the other side in hell. You know, always think about those things too. It's not worth it, not worth it. It's not worth giving up eternity in heaven with Jesus. It's not worth it, not worth it. It's not worth giving up eternity in heaven with Jesus. It's not worth it.
Speaker 2:You know, I always share with people. You know, um, that it's like, you know, you have a piece of paper and then you draw a horizontal line and you take a sharpened pencil and you put on that. You take that sharpened pencil and you just put a little dot on that line and that line is really to the best of our ability. We can kind of look at it like our timeline, a timeline of eternity. That little blip, that little tiny point, is our time here on earth. That relates to eternity, and I just you know, when you really think about that, there's no end. But you give it up for that little itty bitty time.
Speaker 3:Just some time to fit in, just some time not to be alone. Just some people give up their walk with God, their anointing, their call, just so I'm not alone, just so I can fit in with this group. Or you know, you'd be surprised, you know, in the scripture, where he talks about where he sold his birthright for some soup, yeah, you saw.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. We do the same thing. We sell out our anointing, our call, our faith in God, our belief for one night with someone who just said something kind to us, and all of a sudden we wipe away all the years of what to just go to that thing. Just like you said, that little dot is the same way so many times in healing and deliverance. And you see somebody who's doing so well and then they go, the person that they were dating called and they know they can't go, but they go. And then they wind up losing. But they have to start all over again.
Speaker 1:Like a dog returns to his vomit and some cool back to his folly. I mean it happens. I mean, as pastors we see it all the time, all the time and you try to like you know you don't want to get like what's the matter with you, but you're thinking in your mind like you already know what this outcome is. I mean you can see the play it out and then the funny thing about it you're trying to share it with them and then they're mad at you. Exactly, pastor, you keep me from my destiny. I'm like, no, I'm trying to keep you from deliverance again. You're like you're on a constant rotating table of needing to be delivered. It's kind of like the judges the whole period of the judges. They would be free for a while, then they'd get a deliverer and they get free for a while.
Speaker 3:They get up every week in the prayer line. Every week, the same people in the prayer line. Every week they're in the same. No, why are you back in the prayer line? Yeah, exactly you know, but they did something during the week. They're trying to make it right with God so they get back in the prayer line. No, use your tools and stay deliberate. Stay out of these situations.
Speaker 2:And that's what we give tools to take away from every seminar to continue their maintenance and their breakthrough. And you know, I think, in addition to the tools, get around some good godly believing anointed people.
Speaker 1:And church.
Speaker 3:And that was I was going to go there and church yeah, and get yourself plugged up Into a church, into a proper church, where you're going to be teaching and you can see the gifts in operation. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And they teach the inerrant word of God. I mean there's no compromising anything like that, because that support is needed to.
Speaker 3:You know where you can get that support system around you and people that say, hey, listen, keep going and they have to know, pastors, that deliverance is not one time I'm not going to solve your whole life tomorrow night or Friday, saturday morning. We're starting to peel the onion. We're starting a process. We're giving you tools to take home to continue it. It's not going to happen. There's things in my life that I'm still working on, and I'm 70 years old this year. There's always something in our lives that God is working on. Everyone is different. Sometimes it's our mouth, sometimes it's our attitude how quick that we can go from zero to a hundred. What is it that's triggering that? There's so many times that God is still working on something inside of us to make us better. You know, and that's what is important, stay open and be teachable, that God will continue to heal and bring the full, bring the wholesome part of you to the best, evolving, the best version of yourself.
Speaker 1:Amen to that. You know I'm real excited. I think this weekend is going to be outstanding and, Dr Connie, we want to thank you so much, not only for your time here but what you're going to do over the weekend. Is there any closing thoughts or things you want to share with our viewers and listeners coming into this weekend, before we let you go?
Speaker 3:I think the most important thing, pastor, is to stay open. Come open for God to do something to you. I'm going to give you three things. Number one it's going to help you be more obedient to God's Word. That's what it's going to do. Number two it helps you to know yourselves better, because so many times we hide, we mask behind things. Number three it teaches us how to overcome obstacles and deal with our body, soul and spirit. It lets us know better who we are. And number four it is so important for us to understand it Proverbs 4 and 7 says it to ask God for wisdom. It makes us more intelligent.
Speaker 3:Intelligence is the ability to incorporate information and put it to use. It's so sad to have knowledge but never apply it. One of the most frustrating things is to be knowledgeable of something and never apply it. I think it's important for us to get the information on theotherapy, get the information on deliverance and apply it to our lives, so we can use these tools Even when we're not around. They're not at church, but they're dealing with things at home. They have tools to be able to fight it and actually see the outcome of it.
Speaker 1:Amen, Amen. That's going to be so good. I know I'm going to be a fly on the wall on Friday night, but I'm definitely going to be there.
Speaker 2:They want to come. Yeah, we are going to have to do one just for the men.
Speaker 1:You can show up. You can show up when you're the pastor. That's right.
Speaker 3:That's right. That's right, that's that's good, but but we do have one for men. Sometimes we do it with the men, because men are different in their response to healing and to therapy. But I find many of them are open, though, because they're dealing with so many different things, especially since COVID a lot of the mental attacks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amen Amen.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you so much, Dr Connie. We so appreciate you and your ministry and look forward. Everyone, get out there, get in on this. This is going to be powerful. What you experienced here is just the tip of the iceberg of what you're going to see over the next couple of days. So thank you, dr Connie, for coming with us.
Speaker 1:You know we'll have you back there. You so much for having me and I know we're going to have a great weekend.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward, my team is looking forward to coming and being with you guys too. God bless you everyone. Amen Bless you. Well, that was good, that's good stuff.
Speaker 1:No-transcript. You're going to find freedom. I love what she said about you're going to have tools. Not only are you going to have the anointing, but you're going to have the tools to carry it. I think far too often we are only spectators in the house of God. We don't realize the purpose of being in the house of God is to get an impartation and anointing, a word from God that we have to go home and steward in the process of discipleship so that begins to maturate in our lives. So, even as you're getting ready to go and you're coming to this seminar, come on out and then get what you need to get and then go and listen. If you're not being discipled, you need to have somebody pouring into your life so you can be an open book to them, Share what God has given to you and then begin to walk out that that word will be edified and built up in your life so you can become, as Dr Connie said, the best version of yourself.
Speaker 2:That's good. I mean, I took so many notes. I'm like, okay, what can I? You know what are my final thoughts? I have so many things written down here. One of the things that I thought that she said was so good was when we were talking about the prophetic word. Sometimes in those atmospheres you will get prophetic words, and if you do get a prophetic word, remember to hold on to it.
Speaker 1:That's right. Hold on to it, pray it through.
Speaker 2:Pray it through, begin to write it down. I always encourage ladies to have a journal. Write those things down, recite them, get them in your spirit.
Speaker 1:You know, they can get another level journal too.
Speaker 2:You can get another level journal.
Speaker 2:We'll bring that out tomorrow. But you know it's so important because the enemy, once you get a word, he will try to discredit that word. So he's coming on that backside. So you get that word in the front, he's going to try to come on that backside and he's going to try to discredit that word. I remember somebody who she got a word that she was going to get money in her hands pockets and accounts hands pockets and accounts and do you know, a week later, maybe a little bit longer, not too long after she lost her job. So then it caused her to think.
Speaker 1:well, that word was a lie.
Speaker 2:Was this word true? What?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:talking about, Because now I'm just I'm losing my job. Now, you know, where am I going to get money in my hands, pockets and accounts when there's no finances coming in? Well, what happened was a few weeks later. Okay, after she got that call, she got another call saying hey, listen, would you like to work from home?
Speaker 2:And they only picked her and somebody else and she is now making more money than she has ever had and those finances are coming in her account, her pocket and in her hands. So keep that word of God's given it to you. You stand on that word. You hold that word. You don't let the enemy try to discredit it in any way. You get that in your spirit and you don't let it go.
Speaker 1:Amen, amen. So listen. If you've been blessed by this, don't forget to like, subscribe, follow, share all that good stuff and listen right after this. In the next probably 15, 20 minutes, it will be uploaded to every podcast platform. So take this and put it back into your spirit. Listen to it when you're on the workout machine. Listen to it when you're in your car. You know the Bible says talk about it when you're walking through the way. Bind it in front of your forehead as a frontlet. You know the Bible talks about how, constantly putting that word in to you. So don't just sit here and listen to this and go on.
Speaker 1:If something really spoke to you, go back and keep rehearsing that. Even at every prophetic word we get, we write it down. Even as Dr Connie said, she writes it down and begin to pray it through. Remember prophecy is not fortune telling. It's not like, well, I got the word and I'm just going to wait on God.
Speaker 1:Prophecy is all about potential, dormant talent. You have to awaken that through your stewardship and then begin to walk out that word. Work out that salvation, work out that prophecy. Walk it out in a way that it causes it to materialize in your life. It out in a way that it causes it to materialize in your life. And as you begin to pray it through and you begin to meditate upon it, god will give you steps, action, steps. You'll begin to speak to you, by way of the Holy Spirit, on how to see that word come to fruition. So just some food for thought as we're moving into this weekend. Don't just come and be a spectator or even if it's not, this weekend as you move forward. You're at a conference, you're at, a prophet shows up at your church, or you get a prophetic word from somebody, whatever it might be. Don't just sit back and say, okay, that's wonderful, write it down. Be a good steward and watch what god will do and remember to come open.
Speaker 2:I think that's very important she mentioned a couple times yeah, a couple times. Come, come with an open heart. Say God whatever you want to do, however you want to do it, I just want you to intervene. I want that healing, I want that deliverance. Whatever you need to do, just come open.
Speaker 1:So just get ready, even right now, just prophetically, lift up your hands and say something good is going to happen for me. I believe that something great is going to happen in your life next week. Now we're going to be on before then because we've got something we're going to get into. We want to really address this thing. I don't know, probably the next few days or so I'm going to try to get see if we can get back on here quicker than normal. Next Thursday we'll be back here eight o'clock, but we want to talk about this thing that happened at the BET Awards with Kirk Franklin and the stuff that's been going on with a lot of these ministers.
Speaker 1:God has spoken to us about what's happening individually, but together they're making this sermon, if you will, and it's not going to be what you think. We're not the people going around just bashing people over, falling out or things. There's enough of that going on. But with everything that happens, many times God uses those platforms. When something is exposed like that, he's saying something. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying. And God has been speaking to us prophetically that there is a shift that is happening as a result of what we saw at the BET Awards. That is not just a coincidence. It was not just something that just happened. It is a harbinger of foretelling something that is happening and going to be coming.
Speaker 2:So we're going to talk about that, and we've got a whole lot of other stuff that we're going to get into as well but that's going to be coming up real soon and I'm really looking forward to talking about that, because I think there are certain things that, again, like you said, that the Lord placed upon our heart. That is for this now season. I'm just going to share this, really this little bit, but you know, one of the things that, one of the things that's been on my heart, is that the Lord deserves better.
Speaker 1:Amen, and we got to do better.
Speaker 2:We got to do better.
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