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The Tale Of Two Marvins: My Autopsy On The Viral MARVIN WINANS Offering Video
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I said close them doors. Ushers, close the doors. Close the doors. Close the doors. We all gonna leave together. Y'all ain't going no place but to the restaurant.
SPEAKER_03:I, Roberta McCoy, giving faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfected church, sowing this seed of a thousand dollars plus two hundred and thirty-five dollars and receiving the blessings to come to all that participating.
SPEAKER_05:Now that that's only twelve hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:Y'all not listening to what I'm saying. If you have a thousand plus a thousand.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm gonna work on the other 800.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I that ain't what I asked you to do.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, y'all, there must be something about being a Marvin and taking up an offering. I mean, I tell you what, you are not gonna want to miss this episode of Dimensions, where I break down the autopsy of what you just saw. First, we had Marvin Sapp a little bit ago talking about close the doors and had that offering going. And now we got Marvin Wynins. Both of them, pastors, bishops, taking up offerings, going viral for how they went about it. Oh man, I can't wait to get in on this one. You are not gonna want to miss it. Stay tuned. Lock and load, ready your weapons. Dimensions is coming your way right now. Listen, there's always something going on here, Dimensions, something that's popping off in the news, something that's happening in the world that gives me an opportunity to talk to you about what God is saying in the prophetic now. That's why Dimensions exist, to help you keep oiling your lamps, loving your heart, sending 11 out of your life, to prepare the bride of Christ, the body of Christ for the return of Jesus Christ, because he is soon to come. And listen, y'all, I need you to do me a favor right now. If you've been blessed by Dimensions, I need you to take a moment, like, subscribe, follow, share, all of those good things. Listen, you're not gonna want to miss this. And I believe that there's others that's gonna want to hear my autopsy on what happened concerning the Marvin Whinins. The Marvin Whinins viral offering video. Not the Marvin tap, the Marvin Whinins viral video on giving an offering. I don't know what it is about these Marvin's, man. The Marvins are taking up the offering. I don't know if you just can't be a Marvin and take up an offering because I not that I had a problem with Marvin Step necessarily. I mean, I already gave my commentary on that, but what I'm saying is just funny how you got two Marvin's in the same year going viral for how they took up an offering. Both of them singers, both of them preachers, both of them taking up offerings. What is the world coming to? I'll tell you, there's always something going on here. And that's why I want you to get it out so then people can hear my commentary on what happened there. And also, this is kind of my autopsy. We're gonna break down what happened. You're not gonna want to miss it. It's gonna be good. So I want you to get this out there so someone else can get in and on as well. And if you have not become a member of the Dimensions family by downloading our podcast, wherever podcast platforms are held, I need you to take a minute and go right now, download the podcast called Dimensions so you can stay up to date on everything that we're doing, never miss an episode. As soon as the live one goes off, we upload it and it comes right to you, and you never, ever, ever will miss an episode. But listen, let's get right into it because I only got a short amount of time. I'm not here for a long time, but I'm here for a Holy Ghost time. And it's gonna be a great time today in Jesus' name. I want to get in on this because listen, one of the things that happens is this. Now, I want to re-mr. I want you to re-show that first Marvin Weinins video here in just a second, the one I just showed. Show the first Marvin Winins video here because I want you to take a peek at this, because I want to give you some commentary beforehand. Show it.
SPEAKER_03:I, Roberta McCoy, giving faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfecting church or sowing this seed of$1,000 plus$235 and receiving the blessings to come to all that participated.
SPEAKER_05:Now that that's only$1,200.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:Y'all not listening to what I'm saying. If you have a thousand plus a thousand, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm gonna work on the other$800.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I that ain't what I asked you to do. That ain't what he asked.
SPEAKER_04:All right, now listen, this is where I want to get to. If you were to watch just that video right there, which is what has gone viral, I've said this before, and I'm gonna say it again. Everything must be taken into context. The first thing I did is I went through and I said, okay, wait a minute here. Everybody went viral. People talking about$1,250 wasn't enough. How could he shoot somebody down because of this, that, and the third? And I'm sitting there thinking in my mind, okay, wait a minute here. Somebody comes to church and says, here's a check for$12 or$50. Most pastors aren't going to be angry at them or shut them down. I said, wait a minute. Let's look at the full contextualization of what happened there. And this is the reason why I've told people time and time again, you never, ever, ever let Google, you don't let Facebook, you don't let YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, you name any one of the social media platforms become your Bible without doing research. So what do you think is the first thing I did? I went back through and I watched pretty much the whole thing to figure out why this happened and what took place, which is what most people don't do. And that's what when people are lazy, they take one clip and they make a whole theology of it. And ladies and gentlemen, let me show you some things here today. Because the reality was, to be perfectly honest with you, right up front, I had no issue with the fact that he called attention to this matter. Now, I might address it maybe a little bit differently, but who am I to say how God's man needs to deal with it? You forget the story of Ananias and Sapphira when they lied about how much they brought to God. And as a result of that, Peter said, Ananias lied and Sapphira died. He said both of them were gonna be dead. They both died because they lied to the Holy Spirit about an offering. So who am I to say he wasn't called to call her out? I don't know. But this is a thing you have to understand. Every church has a culture. Culture isn't necessarily good or bad. Culture is the way it is. And a lot of African American churches, this is how they take up an offering. Now let me say this to you: this is something that I feel very strongly about. If it's not illegal, it's not unethical, it's not immoral, it may not be the way I do it, it may not be the way you do it, it is not our responsibility to put our mouth on them. You do not touch God's man or woman with your mouth just simply because you wouldn't do it that way. Now you could say, hey, I may not do it that way, but if that's the way God told me to do it, then hey, support it. There's a whole church there that is totally okay with that culture. And this is the thing. He had been preparing this offering. They knew this day was coming. It wasn't like he just took up a random offering, a lady came up and gave a thousand dollars, and that was it. This was a day of giving. The church had been planning this for some time. They had actually gone out, and when you hear about him saying 1,000 plus one, they were supposed to sew a thousand, and they were supposed to go out and recruit somebody that believed in the ministry to sew a thousand with them. So, therefore, there was a process. This thing was completely laid out. And I want to show you this here so you understand it. Show us video number two.
SPEAKER_05:As we prepare to do this, because it's a lot to be done, and we can get it done if we do it in an orderly fashion. Say amen. Listen to what he's saying. Orderly fashion. I need somebody with stamina because we're gonna praise as we give. Nobody is being made, coerced, arms twisted. We're doing it willingly because we have a future. And if it's anything that I've discovered, as a matter of fact, in Exodus the 25th chapter, he said if they don't give it willingly, they can keep it. And so we're believing God for great things. We have a future. And even though the enemy said it wasn't gonna happen, the devil is a liar. And if it's anything that I've noticed over the years, it is when we come and give, there's an anointing that rests on it. When we give sacrificially, and you're gonna be a part of this today. Uh, this is our day of giving.
SPEAKER_04:And so look at this, ladies and gentlemen. The whole church was aware and totally understood that this day was coming. Now, this is the scripture I want to give to you. Now, look at this. Sometimes when you're taking up larger offerings, sometimes you can do it spontaneously. There's other times I want to read out of the Amplified in 2 Corinthians chapter 9 and verse number 5. That is why I thought it necessary to urge these brothers to go to you before I come and make arrangements in advance for this generous, previously promised gift of yours so that it would be ready. Not as something extorted or wrung out of you, but as a voluntary and generous gift. Now remember this: he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly. He who sows generously, that blessing may come to others, will reap generously and be blessed. Let each one give thoughtfully and with purpose, just as he had decided in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver and delights in the one whose heart is in his gift. And then he goes on, he talks about how God's able to make all grace about truth. I'm not gonna read towards that. There's basically a blessing that comes as a result of that. Notice this here, he gave them time biblically to get prepared. They knew this day was coming. That's why the people were applauding, because they all had their offering prepared, and he was telling them this is the day that we've been waiting for in order to be able to give. Now, listen, I want to say this again, because if you look there on YouTube and Facebook, everybody's getting upset saying Marvin Wynins is mean, and how could he dare say a woman shouldn't have gave$1,250? Now, you saw that video right from the jump. She brought up$1,250. Why would he rebuke her? What was it he was rebuking her for? We're about to get into that in just a moment. That's why you have to take everything in context. That's why you got to do research. I did it with Charlie Kirk. I do it every time. I don't just take one line that somebody says and then base their whole theology based upon it. I've heard people calling Charlie Kirk, literally calling him trash, all these things, and saying, listen, you have not done any research. Once again, look at all these people that bring all these things up. I can't believe he called her out. I can't believe when you do the full research. Now, that video by itself, if a woman's just coming up and giving an offering, said, No, I'd go sit down. You know, I wanted$2,000. You didn't bring$2,000, it's only$1,250. Well, then I'd have a whole nother statement that I have to make. But I'm about to show you what happened beforehand. That video right there was the first video I showed you about when he corrected the woman about bringing$1,250 instead of$2,000. That was more towards the end. I want to show you everything he said leading up to it and why he made that adjustment, why he called her out. Let's take a look, Mr. Producer, at the next video.
SPEAKER_05:Um, the ministers to prepare uh to come uh first because the ecclesia has to be the ones that lead it. Now listen to me. We're gonna do this a couple of ways. Those that have the thousand plus one, that means you're coming with your thousand that you're giving plus you've asked someone else to give. Now you don't have to stop at a thousand, and we're gonna deal. So, in other words, if you say, Pastor Wynans, uh, I'm coming with my thousand plus another three thousand, then you'll say that. You understand? And if you didn't get uh plus one, but you maybe came with$250, you're gonna come say that this is my thousand plus two hundred and fifty. You with me? And we're gonna go all the way down. So I need you, in order for this to work, I need you to come when you're called with the offering that you're bringing. If if if listen to me. If you come and say, here's my thousand, and you don't have a plus one, we're gonna have time for that. And I want you to come with joy, I want you to come with excitement because as you give to God, God gives back to you. I need a praise. I need somebody, hold on, yeah, yeah. I need somebody to throw their head back and give God a shout of praise.
SPEAKER_04:All right. So look at that there. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Very clear on what he wanted. Very clear on the instruction that he wanted. He said, listen, if you're not coming with a thousand plus one, I explained what the plus one was about. They're going to get, I said, some people get a whole lot more. Some people got three and four thousand, some people had 10,000, whatever it might have been. They went and they got, they said, We're gonna do this completely in the Lord. When you're called, I want you to come up. This had nothing to do with her offering amount. But see, people will take that and listen, let me say this. The reason why the devil will do that, because we are in a season, I believe, that God is calling his people to sow. God's looking for people that he can give through, not just give to. So if the devil can somehow pervert something using social media to make something seem like it isn't when it, or when it is, that it is when it really isn't, then of course he's gonna do that to get people to say, I was listening to somebody, uh, I listened to The Breakfast Club do it. And I was thinking about it, it was Charlemagne the God, and he was talking about how uh uh he said, Man, I don't understand why they got to do it like that. And uh, you know, whatever happened to pass in the bucket. And I said, Pass in the bucket. I said, brother, that was back in the 90s, man. I mean, people don't hardly ever pass a bucket or play anymore. You know, you still have a way you can give that way, but it's completely different. And he said, Oh, I don't understand why they do it this way and that way and the third, but see, they didn't take everything in context as well. They didn't realize he had given clear directions. There was a certain way that they were doing things. I think it's very important that we never speak ignorantly on a matter. What do I mean by that? Always get your facts before you draw a conclusion. And if you are not familiar with church culture, every culture is different. I know some churches, they don't even take up offerings anymore. They have a bucket, they just do it, and they say, we don't even have an offering anymore. People just give as they need to give. That's what God tells them to do. That's what God told them to do. It's not my place to talk about people's culture. Now, if it's illegal, unethical, or immoral, if there's something unbiblical about it, then that's another story. But just because somebody doesn't do it my way doesn't mean it's my business. And let me tell you something. It's very, very clear. When God calls a man of God to take care of a flock, he does not have to confer with you before he directs another person. He doesn't have to direct you. He doesn't have to say, well, let me explain to everybody why I'm doing what it is that I'm doing. He's responsible for God. He's responsible to those people to do what God leads him to do. And so therefore, just because it's not the way your culture would do it or the way you would want it, doesn't mean you have a right to speak against and say that he's wrong. And I think that's the whole thing about why we have so many denominations and things now is because we have a lot of people that do things different ways. There are some churches I know of right now. I was in a church one time and I was there speaking for a few moments. And I in my culture, you always give honor to the pastor and to the first lady or the pastor's wife or uh to the leaders that are there, and you honor them. And so I said, Hey, everybody, you know, let's give it up for pastor so-and-so. Da-da-da. They just kind of looked at me. I said, Well, that was terrible. I said, Y'all need to give it up for this pastor. And then they finally applauded, right? At the end of service, I get out of service and I talk to the pastor. I said, Man, I said, I really was glad they came back right. I said, Well, actually, we don't do that here. He said, We don't really give uh honor to pastors and things like that the way that your culture does. And it wasn't a negative thing. I said, Oh, I didn't even realize that. But I think the people really enjoyed it, to be honest with you. And I didn't do it, I did it unintentionally, but my point is that just because they don't do that doesn't mean my way's better. Just because they don't do it my way doesn't mean their way's better. That's why we have different cultures. And I think it's important that we keep our mouths off of people just because their culture does not reflect ours. As long as it's not illegal, unethical, or moral, or there's something that's completely unbiblical, I'm gonna allow people to have their way. Move as you see fit, do what you gotta do. But he made, I want to go back for a minute. He made it very clear on what his intentions were, what he wanted to be done. Mr. Producer, go back to the first video now because I want you to see again. Now he made it very clear. In order to do this the right way, we've got to do everything decently in order. We've got to do this, we've got to do that. I want you to come when your time has called and look at what the lady did. Bring it up for me.
SPEAKER_03:I, Roberta McCoy, giving faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfecting church or sowing this seed of$1,000 plus$235 and receiving the blessings to come to all that participated.
SPEAKER_05:Now that that's only$1,200.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_05:Y'all not listening to what I'm saying. If you have a thousand plus a thousand.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna work on the other$800.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I that ain't what I asked you to do.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so look at this here. Now, he said very, very clearly what he wanted done. Someone completely broke rank, broke protocol, did it. Am I mad because she gave$1,250? Is he upset because she gave$1250? He had nothing to do with her amount. Had the fact of matter that he had a certain way that he wanted things to be done. And listen, you have to understand sometimes when you have things like that, that's just disorder. Whether she was, well, I'm gonna work another 800. He said, I didn't ask for that. I'm asking you to follow what I was saying to be done. That's like if you were in a line, say, for example, if you're at a uh, say, for example, you're at a dinner, okay? And they said, listen, we are gonna go by table. You ever been to one of those? We got 30 tables, we're gonna take tables one through five. And you jump up and you're number 18, decide you're gonna get in line, and they say, excuse me, ma'am, you can't do that in front of everybody because you did it, you got a line. Are they gonna say they didn't want her to eat? They didn't want him to eat. That had nothing to do with it. That had nothing to do with it. It was the fact that she broke rank. Now, let me quickly and parenthetically insert this. I personally would have dealt with that. I would have, I'll be honest, I would have dealt with it too. If I asked people to do a certain thing in service and you're blatantly going to disregard it, let me tell you this. Very, very important that we are, we we as pastors, some of you may not understand this, you have to be careful of rebellion in your church. What do I mean by rebellion? He was very clear. If you watch the videos that I show, go back and listen to it again. He said, and I need you all to listen, I need you to hear me. I mean, he kept saying it over and over and over again. So for whatever reason, he felt it was very important that it's done in this systematic way. He never downplayed the fact. He said, if you're only giving a thousand, there's gonna be time for that too. And I want you to come with joy. He didn't leave anybody out. And she made a decision to supersede rank and break rank and say, I'm gonna do it my way. I do not have an issue with the fact that Marvin, Bishop Pastor Patrick, uh Pastor Marvin Weinans uh called called her out. I don't have a problem with that. She was in there, she blatantly and disregarded uh an order that was given from the pulpit. The Bible says to do everything in decently in order. And something that we have lost in the body of Christ is spiritual authority. Spiritual authority is not somebody telling you how to live your life. Spiritual authority means in regards to things of the kingdom and the house of God, there is a hierarchy, there's a rank, just like you have on your job. There is a there, you have a supervisor, you've got shift supervisors, you've got managers, you've got HR department people, you've got all these different people that have heads of different departments, making sure the department ran well. If it works that way in the world, why wouldn't it be the same way in the church? There is spiritual authority that's happened. Now, that doesn't mean that the person on your job can tell you how to live your life. That doesn't mean the person on your job can tell you what time you can get up in the morning, what time you shouldn't get up in the morning, and this, that, and the third. But what it is, it means when we are in the house of God, we are called to submit to the authority of God. And the Bible says all authority. You can read Romans chapter 13, all authority comes from God, whether in the church or outside of the church. We have to be submitted to those things. You have to follow protocol. She broke that protocol. She broke that protocol, did what she was gonna do, and he called her out. Now, would I have handled it maybe the exact same way he did? Probably not. Would I have called it out? Yes. How would I have done it? I would have done it maybe a little bit differently, but I don't have an issue with him addressing that. I do not. She he made it very, very clear of what his instructions were, and she violated that. Rebellion, the Bible says, is as the sin of witchcraft. You're just gonna go up there, you just go, the pastor done told you what he wanted. You're gonna go up there, and he would say, I'm sorry, Pastor, I know you told me to wait, but I'm coming anyways. To be honest with you, I don't even know if God will even honor that type of a gift. I don't know if he will. Now, I don't know what her motive was and what her intentions were, but if you look it on the news, maybe I'll bring that up tomorrow. I don't know. I'll see what the Lord leads. But if she actually they actually, the news came and actually did a spot on it, and he explained it, and she said he did not rebuke me. He didn't call me out any way that what he should have done. She actually defended him in that. And rightfully so. Rightfully so. Yep, I said it rightfully so. And what you're seeing on YouTube and Facebook, people saying, Oh yeah, he he he it 2250 wasn't enough. Oh, he rebuked her because that she said it wasn't a rebuke, which in a sense it really was. But she said, No, she didn't get mad or anything on that line. He made it very clear what he wanted, and she just cut in line. She said, I'm gonna do it my way. And as a result of that, he called it out. I don't have an issue with that. And you want to know why? Look at what the Bible says in 1 Timothy chapter number 5. Look at here. Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also might fear. Wow. Look at this in the Amplified. First Timothy chapter 5, verse number 20. As for those who continue in sin, reprimand them in the presence of all the congregation, so that the rest may be warned. That's another passage of scripture there that the Bible clearly says. Let's look at the New American standard. Let's just look at some different versions of this. Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sin. And people, well, is that really a sin? Of course it is. Of course it is. See, listen, ladies and gentlemen, you cannot allow rebellion to go on in the church. You can't allow rebellion in your home. You can't allow it on the job. If people are just gonna blatantly usurp authority, whether it seems like a big deal to you or not, the devil deals subtly. And what he says, oh, don't say anything about that. That's okay, just let it go. I know, especially something he was very, very clear on. Don't do it this way. Please don't do this. I need you to follow my direction. Very, very important. Because what will happen now, listen to me when I say this. Why is that important? Because every other person that has a rebellious spirit will feel the freedom to disregard the direct authority from the man or woman of God. Some of y'all may not understand that, but even on your job, if you tell everybody, hey, you got to do this and then you don't do it, it gives them permission to disregard authority. If you don't hold people accountable to what you said to do, it gives people permission to disregard. If it's not important to you to, if you're gonna call something out and it's not important enough for you to enforce it, it won't be important enough for people to abide by it and people that have an issue with rebellion, people that feel they can get away and do whatever they want, they will take the liberty to do so and you'll be the only person to blame. You have to hold people accountable. If you look at great championship teams, they say the thing that changed them is when the coaches started holding the players accountable for how they did their job. It's the same way in the things of God. You got to hold people accountable. If you don't hold people accountable to it, they're not gonna follow because if you're saying, you're gonna preach this big thing, I need you to follow, I need you to follow. It's very, very important, very, very important. And then you just people come up and do whatever they want and you say, uh, it's okay, I'm just gonna let it go. What that is telling every other person in the church that your word doesn't matter, it doesn't count, you really don't mean what you say. It's okay to violate a direct order, and everything is all messed up. We cannot have that. That's why the Bible says rebuke them. When they are blatantly violating a word, rebuke them openly, that others may fear sinning. Now, last thing I want to get to before I wrap this up today. I hope that you've been being blessed by this. Is I want to show you something. I think it's very profound. One of the things that I think is phenomenal of a pastor, a pastor uh that is willing to live what he preaches. And I wanted to show you this here because not only people, people, they didn't mention it, they didn't mention the fact that he had a preamble to all of this, where he mentioned about how she he wanted everyone to do this decently in order. And there's a certain way and structure that he wanted everybody to give, but everybody was important, everybody was gonna come along. Put that in context with just the fact that he called her out because she brought up twelve hundred and fifty dollars. And I think it's also important to mention that he was willing to do it himself, exactly what he said to do. Mr. Producer, let's roll the last video.
SPEAKER_05:Just an hour ago, a thousand dollar contribution from Richard Andrews, uh, doing what he said he was gonna do. Benjamin Wynnes. Linda Stewart, my cousin, this$1,000. Bishop Nathan Wells of Texas,$1,000. Lady that showed up for 6 a.m. prayer, Shalina M. Shaw,$1,000. Uh I'll call him this afternoon because he's coming. Bishop Daryl Hines,$1,000. Uh Pastor Tommy Bates,$1,000. Pastor Tim Delina,$1,000. Bishop George and Mary Seawright,$1,000. You see, you see how that happened? So I give uh sowing this seed of$1,000 plus what I just read, and I give a seed of$10,000. That's that's that's my seed. I'm sowing a seed of$10,000 plus all that I read, which is over$20 something,000, and receive the blessings to come to all that participated. Give God praise. All right. Then you'll just you'll take your offering if you still have it. I know some of you have already given, and uh you can give it to me and we'll put it in here. All right. Show us how it's done, Sister Winens.
SPEAKER_01:I, Denise Winens, give in faith and stand in unity with the vision of perfecting church of sowing this seed of eleven hundred and seventy dollars and my fundraiser of eight hundred and thirty dollars. Amen. And receive.
SPEAKER_04:So look at that. I cut that a little bit short there because he and his wife both did it. Now, she said, well, she only gave eleven hundred and seventy dollars, but she raised the plus one. It was supposed to be a total of two thousand. So what they're supposed to do is give a thousand or anywhere close to it and get someone else to give to contribute towards another thousand or more. Bishop pastor uh Pastor Marvin Weinitz, he went through, I don't know if he's a bishop or not, uh, but either way, uh, he he went and he got all those people, those names he read off, were the people he went out and asked to sew plus his 10,000. So he sowed 10,000, did so he got in line first, said, I want everybody to do it a certain way. And if you remember in the book of um Exodus, I believe it is chapter 26, is it? Chapter 25, uh uh that when they were getting ready to build the tabernacle, which is what they're doing, they're raising money in order to build this building. Uh when they were building the tabernacle, what did he say? He said, Let the children of Israel bring me a willing offering. He said, Let them present it to me. And what he was trying to do is follow that same order and that structure when it came to that. That's how God told him to do it. Who am I to say otherwise? It's not my church, it's not my mantle, it's not my ministry, it's not the people that God gave me to take care of and to shepherd. If that's what God told the man of God to do, then so be it. Let him do his job. In Jesus' name. The key is the people that are in there need to follow the instruction. Notice something I thought is very profound. The very thing he asked everybody to do, he started with himself. It wasn't like he hold it to a different accountability. And he sold one of the largest gifts there and got all those people to solve. There were people that people that name said he read are people outside of his ministry that he went and got and solicited those plus ones. He said, You don't have to start at a thousand, but go get others to help collect and to help raise money towards that. So that's what they did. And part of the video, too, when you watch all of it, he talked about how he said, listen, people don't understand that in the church, we don't have um, you know, government agencies that support us and uh product that we sell. I mean, we sometimes people have like hats and shirts, but not on a weekly basis. That's not how we did it. It's all by the giving of the parishioners, which is why we have the institution of tithe and offering. And God promises to bless us because he understands that's the way that he has his people, the product really that you get, you're not paying for it, but God asks you to sow as you feel led into it, is the anointing, the presence of God, the word of God, the covering of God, the house of God, all of that. God saying, Hey, bring me the tithe and the offering as your way of showing appreciation and as you sow into it. The tithe we owe, though, God considers it robbery if we don't tithe. The tithe belongs to them, the offering is above that. These people are bringing an offering, a free will offering. Whatever it is that God puts you on. I love how we started it. I have no issue. I might have done it a little bit differently, but I do not have an issue that he called her out. And I think it's important that we do not put our mouths on men and women of God because their culture is different than ours. A lot of churches don't do offerings like that. They all got in line. They went through the whole church. That's why I said, I got to do it a certain way so we can tally it up and get it the way we need to get it. Da-da-da-da. And that was his way of doing it. And if that's how he chose to do it, then that's how he chose to do it. And that's the way he felt led, and that's the way God told him to do it. And I support that. I support any pastor. They're not doing anything illegal, unethical, immoral, or unbiblical. I have no issue with what they are doing. And there, I can show you the Bible all the way through, even down to the correction. He did that for a reason. And he wanted to make sure others knew don't come up here until you're called. I asked you nicely to do that, and you just totally disregarded that, which I believe the woman is disrespectful. And if anything, that woman could even go and say, Pastor, I'm sorry that I did not follow your order. I'm sorry that I did not do what it is that you asked me to do, and that it created all of this because I was disobedient. It even could have possibly brought a reproach on the church and on his name because he had to correct a parishioner that simply didn't know how to follow instructions. Think about it when you're young. When you're in kindergarten, they'll say, get into a single file line. And then he'll tell you, maybe line up by last name or line up by number, count the odds and even, two, four, six, eight, one, two, odds, odds go here, evens go here. I mean, we've seen it all. And you follow the instruction of the teacher. All she was asking had nothing to do with her amount, nothing to do with her offering, just simply follow instructions. And the devil doesn't like that because he's a devil of disorder, he's a devil that likes to usurp authority, he's a devil that's rebellious, and he doesn't like that. So as of course he's going to do everything he can to try to lie. That's why, as I wrap up, never take one thing out of context and make a whole theology out of it. Do your homework. Hallelujah. So listen, I hope that you've enjoyed today's broadcast. Hope that you've been blessed. I've been blessed giving it to you. Keep on giving and sowing. Matter of fact, I might have to take up some offerings in our church. We got some things coming up. I'm probably going to be doing some things soon because we've got a build-up that we're doing and we've got to raise money to do it. But guess what? God blesses his people, and I guarantee you, I'll be sowing seed time and harvest just like everybody else. We should live what it is that we preach in Jesus' name. So don't forget to like, subscribe, follow, and share. Download the Dimensions podcast. And guess what? Tomorrow night at 8 30 p.m., Pastor J. Anthony Gilbert will be right here waiting for you at the next Dimensions.
