Is Hell Forever Or The Final End?

We examine whether hell is eternal or ends in annihilation, testing popular claims against Scripture and the Greek behind “everlasting” and “eternal.” We lay out why judgment is final, why mercy matters now, and how lowering the penalty of sin weakens the cross.

• Matthew 25 read with aiōnios applied to both life and punishment
• Mark 9’s unquenchable fire and undying worm analyzed
• 2 Thessalonians 1 and Jude on everlasting destruction and eternal fire
• Revelation 14’s “no rest day or night” unpacked
• Revelation 20’s lake of fire and the end of death
• Why annihilationism minimizes sin and repentance
• Finality of the great white throne vs rewards at the bema
• Practical stakes for preaching, holiness, and hope

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Chapters

• 0:00 Setting The Question: Is Hell Eternal;
• 1:35 Call To Share And Program Mission;
• 3:32 Framing Kirk Cameron’s View;
• 5:35 Greek Terms: Everlasting And Eternal;
• 6:52 Matthew 25 And Parallel Meanings;
• 8:35 Mark 9: Unquenchable Fire Explained;
• 12:20 Thessalonians And Jude On Eternal Vengeance;
• 15:05 Revelation 14: No Rest Day Or Night;
• 17:10 Judgment Seats And Finality;
• 20:10 Why Annihilationism Minimizes Sin;
• 23:15 Revelation 20: Lake Of Fire And Death’s End;
• 26:25 The Moral Stakes And Human Choice;
• 29:10 Summation, Warnings, And Next Topics

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I got to mention something to you today. I know I'm getting back into my groove here doing dimensions, but there was something not too long ago that kind of hit the scene that I wanted to address, but I was away at the time. And Kirk Cameron had a clip that he did, a podcast, discussing the eternity of hell. Is hell forever? Do the people that suffer in hell suffer forever? Is it an eternal barbecue and people just burn forever and ever? Or is there a thing called annihilationism, which means they'll go to hell and then when they're consumed, they will cease to exist. Ladies and gentlemen, you're not going to want to miss this. This is really going to be a blessing to you because we're going to dive into the scriptures to determine whether or not we see in the Bible is the torment and eternity of hell forever. Do we suffer forever or do we cease to exist? All that and more coming up on Dimensions. To help get this out. If you're on Facebook, if you're on YouTube, take a minute right now and get the word out. I'm going to be talking about some stuff today that's going to be a blessing to you. Talking about is hell and the torment of hell. Is it forever? A lot of people want to know is it, do we cease to exist? Are we going to be an eternal barbecue, as Kirk Cameron put it? How exact is it going to be? So take a minute right now. Like, subscribe, follow us, and share wherever it is that you can. And listen, we are coming to you five days a week, every weeknight at 8 p.m. Dementia's coming to you, helping, helping you to keep oil in your lamp, love in your heart, sin 11 out of your life, preparing the body of Christ, the bride of Christ for the return of Christ, because Jesus is coming back, and he's coming back very, very soon. So I want you to be prepared. And this is intended to help you to be prepared for the return of Jesus Christ. So I want to talk today, uh, and I want to jump right into it because a lot I got to get to is the torment of hell forever. Is it something that lasts forever? I wish I'm kind of flying solo. I'd like to show you a clip, but I'm not sure if you're going to get the volume of it. You're not going to get the uh uh um get the uh the the audio of it. So I'm not gonna show it, but if you want to get a chance, you can go and you can look at Kirk Cameron and his son, and they do this conversation about hell and the eternity of hell. And basically what came out of it is that they were saying that God is a merciful God, and if he's so merciful, there's no way that he would let people suffer eternally. Because when people turn to them, uh when they turn to him, that he's going to be uh gracious and merciful and not cause them to suffer. And they mentioned about an eternal barbecue and how will you just burn forever and ever and ever? And you know, one of the things that I'm gonna get into here, I'm gonna break it down here in a moment. But we have to be very careful when we start messing with the wording of the scripture, the understanding of the scripture and what it says. We have to be very, very careful. And I'm gonna explain why in just a moment, when we begin to lessen the consequence of what the Bible says is going to happen. And they talked about it, and his son was mentioning about how how could God that's so loving and so kind, be so unmerciful to people and let them burn forever? And they talk about there's degrees of suffering, which I agree with and all of that, but that basically what they were leaning towards is that there was an annihilationism, which is basically the understanding that when people go to hell, that eventually they'll just burn up and they'll die and they'll cease to exist, and that's everlasting. They're not coming back. And so that is what they call everlasting destruction. Uh, but I beg to differ with some of these, and I hope that you'll stick around. I hope that you'll share this because I believe that people need to understand uh the eternity of hell. And I want you to grab your Bibles today, too. We're gonna do a little bit of a deep dive into this so you really understand. This isn't just my opinion. I don't want to hear people's opinion. We want to break it down, and we're gonna even get into some of the Greek words of what the Bible says concerning everlasting and concerning eternal and what does that mean? One of the things they had mentioned as well was that uh the Bible talks about eternal life, but it doesn't mention eternal suffering. I'm gonna talk about that as well. You're not gonna want to miss this. I'm telling you, it's really going to be a blessing to you. So we're gonna jump right in here. I want to go first to Matthew chapter 25 in verse number 46. Now, let's first start right here because this will help you. Let's start in verse number 44. And this is the story where he says, When did I see you hungry? When did I see you thirsty? When did I see you naked? When did I see you and visit you in prison? All those things. Okay, so we're gonna start in verse 44. Then they also answer him, saying, Lord, when do we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick in prison and did not minister you? Then he said to them, saying, Assuredly I say to you, and as much as you did not do it to the least of these, you did not do it to me, look at this, and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. Now, as you take a deep dive and you look at the Greek words here, the word everlasting is the word ioneos, which means without end, and it never ceases to end, and it's without beginning or end. So it is truly forever. There's no beginning or end. You step into an eternal realm. Now, when they said it mentions eternal life, but it doesn't mention eternal, it doesn't use the word eternal. Well, they're reading it in the natural or in the uh the New King James or whatever version it might be. What you have to understand is that that word everlasting and the word eternal are both ioneos, which they both have the same meaning. It means without beginning, without ending, everlasting, forever, never ceases, no beginning, no end, and it never ceases. So I want you to understand that both of those, everlasting and eternal, when you read those, sometimes you've got to look into the Greek to understand it. So this is the thing. He says there's gonna be everlasting punishment, which means it never ceases to end. Now, watch this. Let's go to Mark chapter number nine, verse 42 through 48. Now, if you're just jumping on, take a minute, like, subscribe, follow, and share. Help me out, get this out here today, share this because I believe this is gonna be a blessing to a lot of people. Because we want to figure out what does the Bible say about hell? Is it eternal? Or do we cease to exist? Do we hop in the fire, we're consumed, and then that's a wrap? Or do we last forever? Do they suffer forever and ever? And I'm gonna break this down for you. Mark chapter 9, verse 42 through 48. Look at this here. But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it'd be better for him to hang a millstone around his neck and he were to be thrown into the sea. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed rather having that rather than having two hands to go to hell into the fire that shall never be quenched. Now look here, verse 44. Where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame rather than having two feet to be cast into hell into the fire that shall never be quenched. Where their worm does not die, and their and the fire is not quenched, and if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye rather than having two eyes to be cast into the hell, where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. Now, this is the thing. So what they're saying here, or where a lot of people get their teaching, is they say, well, if the fire is eternal, then that doesn't mean the people are eternal. So basically saying the fire's eternal, the fire isn't quenched, but the people that are will be consumed and then they will die. Now, watch this. This is important. What does a fire need in order to not be to not go out? It needs more fuel. So by default, if you will, if fire needs fuel in order for it to continue to burn, and the fire is unquenchable, and the fire does not stop, well, this is the reality. If it ceased, if the people ceased to exist, the fire would not be needed. Are you following me? It would not need to be unquenchable because when the people are consumed, the fire could go out and we could move on. Watch this. By default, here we have to look at this. If the fire does not go out, it means if it's unquenchable, it means the fuel will not be uh uh extinguished as well. That means the fire doesn't go out. It's because the fuel will not be burned. It will feel the effect, but it will not burn up. It will not be completely destroyed. Okay, now that's something that we have to look at here. And I'm gonna I'm gonna set all this up for you. This is very, very powerful. Now look at this here. In verse number 48, or verse number uh 47 and 48, it says, And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. For it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye rather than having two eyes to be cast into the hell, where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. Okay, now let's take a look at the Greek here. The fire is not quenched. There are two words, not unquenched. Okay. The word quenched there is o lethros, o lethros, which means the destruction of the flesh. Now, watch. It says they will be cast into the fire, and the fire is not quenched, or the fire is not destroyed. That word quenched there is the word oletros. All right. Now, this is very, very important that we understand this, because if you understand that it doesn't go out, that means it's never quenched. That means that the fuel is not consumed as well. So God would not give an eternal fire, but then put things that'll be eternal, non-eternal, in there and we need an eternal fire. Why would it need that? It's basically saying that just as Moses was with the burning bush in the natural, and so it will be in eternity without God. And so the worm does not die, the fire is not quenched, and it's letting us know that. Now let's go to 2 Thessalonians chapter number one. 2 Thessalonians chapter number one. Let's look here at verse number nine. These shall be punished. Matter of fact, let's go on uh uh uh in uh uh verse, let's read through this a little bit. Uh verse number three, let's just take a little minute and read. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly and the love of every one of you all abounds towards each other, so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith and all your persecution, tribulation that you endure, which is manifest evidence of the righteousness, righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer, since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire, taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now look here. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, from the glory of his power, when the day, when he comes in that day to be glorified in his saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was also believed. Now look here, verse nine. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction. Now, watch, you gotta look at the words here. That word everlasting is the word ion ionos, ioneos, which means to cease, never to cease, without beginning or without ending. That word there, everlasting destruction, is also the word everlasting fire, depending on where you look at it. There's different words in everlasting suffering, depending on which translation you look at. That word there is hoopero, hoopero, which means to put under or to hold under. Now, put all of that together. These shall be punished with everlasting destruction. Okay, so that means they will be put under eternally to suffer when you go through and you use the word eonios and hupero, which are the original Greek words there. It means they will be put under, they will be held under, they will be placed under vengeance to eternally suffer. Eternally suffer. Eternal. That means it will never be quenched. They will be punished with everlasting destruction. If they were just destruction, he wouldn't have said everlasting. It's nonstop, it never ceases to exist. Now let's go to Jude chapter one. Now I want to take you through all of these so then you clearly see what it says here. In verse number seven, as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality, gone after strange flesh, and are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Wow. Suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. So there's that word there, who pernios. So they will be placed under destruction forever. I'm sorry, you know what? I actually switched those around in first and uh 2 Thessalonians 1 9, that's uh Olethros. I apologize. This is the word here, uh, everlasting fire, which is pretty much they're all uh complementing one another, that they are going to last forever. Now let's go here. Now I'm setting all these up. I'm gonna move kind of quickly through these here. I want to go to Revelations chapter 14. Now, here's where it's really gonna get interesting because you're gonna see something here, and I want to set all this up so then you understand why I would say, and I'm gonna jump out now and say it, I totally, 100% irrefutably disagree with the annihilationism uh theory. Um, I do not believe that um people will suffer just for a moment, they'll be burnt up, and then like the chaff, they're gonna blow away. Uh, you know, gonna put like put a fire in there, and then it's good, because the fire is eternal. And so I want you to understand, I do not agree with that. And I'm setting a case as to why I don't believe that. Now, Revelation chapter 14, verse number nine, look at this here. Now I want you to stay with me. Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, if anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of his indignation. Now look it. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the land. And the smoke of their torment ascends, their torment, their being tormented. It ascends forever and ever. Look at this. They have no rest day or night. Whoever worships the beast in his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name. So here you go. Look at this here. You understand that it says, it will be forever and ever. They have no rest day or night that they have worshipped the beast. So this is some of the people that are going to suffer forever. Now jump down here to Revelation chapter 20. I'm setting all this up for you because I want you to see the scriptures and how I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring it all full circle in a minute as to why I believe this is a ploy of the enemy. It's a plot of the enemy, and you have to be aware of these things. And I understand why people, why their intentions may seemingly be good, that God is merciful and he's loving and he is kind and he's always gracious. The Bible says something very profound in the book of Hebrews. It is appointed of a man once to die, then the judgment. Judgments are final. Judgments are final. There's no redemption for judgment. There's no redemption. When God sends you into a judgment, it's a period of time in this earth, in the life to come. There is no, if if there was a temp, now watch this. If there was a temporary, now stay with me. If there was only a temporary suffering, it would be proof to the fact that there's possibility that it would only be temporary that we would be in heaven, that somehow things could change. Things will be final at that point. And one of the things that people don't understand, and this is what I believe, when we stand before God, now you have to remember, he said, everlasting destruction, ioneos destruction, and eternal life, ionios. It's the same words. One is life, one is destruction, one is life, one is punishment. Now, watch this. We have to receive a new body in order to rule and reign with Jesus Christ in heaven. Now, watch. There are two judgment seats. There is the great white throne judgment, and then there is what's called the judgment seat of Jesus Christ. So watch. The judgment seat or the bhima is where the church goes to receive their rewards. It's not a time of judgment, it's a time of reward. It's how well you stewarded your grace and what God is now going to give you in the life to come. Hallelujah. So you don't have anything to fear because all your sins have been washed away. Or, the unbeliever, the ones whose names were not written in the Lamb's book of life, they will stand before the great white throne judgment. At that point, they will be judged for the sins they did not give to Jesus Christ. And they will, Jesus paid the price. Now they, because they did not receive Jesus, they will have to pay the price themselves eternally. Now, if it was just that simple, then this would be hell. Because think about it, you go into the fire, you're consumed, it's over with, you're done. It'll be just that simple. But this is the thing. I believe that when we stand before Christ, when we stand before him, when we come to him, anything that could not have been redeemed, the moment that we die, anything that couldn't have been redeemed will be completely, uh, anything that was sinful, anything that was negative is going to be completely removed. Now watch, that's the that's when we come to Jesus. When the unbeliever is released, and then they have to stand before Christ, when he pronounces judgment, watch. If God forbid, if you had a family member, a friend, or anybody that you knew, they're not going to hell like this. The reason why God is merciful now is because there is time for redemption. When they stand before Jesus at the great white throne judgment, anything that could have been redeemed will be extracted. Just like anything that could Be redeemed is extracted from us. So for the believer, anything that couldn't be redeemed gets removed, and we are perfect now. Now watch. When they stand before Christ at the great white throne judgment, when he pronounces judgment, anything that could have been redeemed is removed, and they are perfected in evil. They are not going as a human being. They're not going as a son of man looking to be redeemed. When I say son of man coming from flesh, and that you're looking at Johnny or John, no, no, no. They will become demonic. They will become like their father, the devil. Nothing to be redeemed. They will be sealed and confirmed in evil. So when people say, oh, he's going to be merciful, he's going to be merciful. No, because there's still time for us to be redeemed. That's why he's merciful. And this is the thing I want everybody to get. And I don't want to go too far too fast, but I want you to catch this. And this is the plot of the enemy. He wants people to lessen the penalty of sin. Why? If the penalty ain't that bad, live how you want to live. You're just going to burn up in a minute and it'll be over. Live your life, you'll just cease to exist. It lessens the penalty. Watch this, which means it lessens the need for Jesus Christ. And if it does that, watch this. When you lessen the penalty, you've lessened how God views sin. You've lessened what Christ paid for. Here's the last part that's very, very important. You will lessen the need for people to repent. You will lessen the need for people to get on their knees and beg for forgiveness. You will lessen that if you lessen the penalty. Oh, it's not going to be as bad. It's not going to be as bad as what everybody thinks. Ladies and gentlemen, hear me well. The price for sin is eternal death, which means separation from God. That's why they will burn forever. It's not just a physical fire, it's being in a world in fire, tormented in your lust, tormented in your passions, never getting relief. People say, oh, it's just an eternal barbecue. I believe it's equivalent to that. It may be partly in a fire, but when you think about the fire of lust, what do people do? They go and they consume something. So when they're burning in their lust, if they're burning in their lust for sex, they go and they fulfill it. If they're burning in their lust for murder, they go and they fulfill it. But then it returns. Well, the problem with this is the thing. When you are in eternity in hell, every evil desire you have will be there and you will burn in it forever, and you will never be able to be able to fulfill that desire. It's like this: imagine being hungry, being thirsty, but never getting a drink. Imagine being on fire but never being extinguished. Imagine suffocating but never dying, but you'll never be able to take a breath. Having a desire to kill and angry, but nobody to take it out on. And you'll burn in that forever, being separated from God. This is the torment of the unbeliever. That's why Jesus said, Come unto me, all you that labor and a heavy laden, and I will give you rest. I read in Revelation, they will have no rest day or night, and the smoke of their torment ascends forever. They are being tormented. But listen, this is the thing. He's merciful to anybody that's willing to come in the time. But if they do not come in the time, they will pay the price forever for their sins. And it will not be Johnny begging, please, God, get me out of here. No, no, no, no, no. There will be nothing left to redeem. Even if, listen to me, even I want to show you this. If the gospel was presented to Satan, he would never take it. He is irredeemable. The people that will face the judgment will become irredeemable. They're not crying out saying, please have mercy on us. The more you put them in their sin, the more you punish them, the more they'll shake their fist at God. They will not want to be redeemed. They will suffer, they will be tormented, but they will never, ever, ever turn and bow their knee to Jesus. They won't ask for it. They will be demonically, they will take on the demonic nature. Completely 100%. Everything within them will be perfected in evil. I hope you're following me. This is why it's eternal. See, if you lessen that, you lessen the need for redemption. You lessen it. And that's the reason why it's so important. Now let me hit you. I'm almost done. Go to Revelation chapter 20, verse number 10 through 15. I hope that you're enjoying this today. And that's the reason why I felt bad that this even went viral. Don't buy the lie. It's eternal, y'all. And listen, all these people get new revelations. We in the 21st century. All these years, people have been believing this. Now the 21st century, we're the enlightened ones. The devil is a liar. The devil is a liar. I've heard people talk about you don't need to tithe anymore. The devil is a liar. We don't, we can dress any way we want, do anything we want. The devil is a liar. It's been this way. The church fathers have known it. Now there were some church fathers that had differing views, but all throughout this time, we've all believed it's eternal, it's eternal, it's eternal. And now when we're getting close to the return of Christ, these new ideologies, the Bible says in the end times that people will give heed to seducing spirits and to the doctrines of devils. Hear me well, ladies and gentlemen. I don't want to say that Kirk Cameron is the doctrine of devils or anything along that line. That's, I'm saying, be careful of this stuff. It's been eternal for as long as I've known it. God ain't changing it now. It is eternity without God. Revelation chapter 20, verse number 10. The devil who deceived them, look at this, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and they will be tormented day and night forever. Then I saw a great white throne. I'm about to tell you about that. And he who sat on it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away, and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were open. And another book was opened, which is the book of life, and the dead were judged according to their works by the things which were written in the books. Now, watch, this is where it gets really good. The sea gave up their dead who were in it, death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one according to his works. Now look at verse 14. This is very unique. Then death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. Now watch this. If death is cast into the lake of fire, that means there's no more dying. Stay with me. There's no more, you can't have annihilationism. This is the second death. So death and Hades, they were cast in the lake of fire. Now look at this. And anyone not found written in the book of life was cast in the lake of fire. Now, by deductive reasoning, let's go back up to verse number 10. Then the devil who deceived them who was cast in the lake of fire and brimstone and the beast and the prophet's prophet, and they will be tormented day and night forever. And where? In the lake of fire. Then death and Hades were cast in the lake of fire. And then anyone not found. So what he's saying is that I'm going to make everything eternal. So if you weren't with me, you're now death isn't going to come for you anymore. So I'm going to kill the, I'm going to throw death in the lake of fire. And then I'm going to throw the people in there that there'll be no death. There will be no relief from it. And I want to share this as I prepare to wrap up. I'm going to get ready to close. Hope y'all have been blessed by this today. If you've been blessed, let me know that this has been a blessing to you. And if you got questions, let me know too. I would love to answer any more questions that you may have. Now, this is the thing. I want you to catch this. And this is the most important part. To lessen the punishment of sin is to lessen the severity of sin. And to question God, saying, I don't know if he really meant that it would be eternal and I don't understand. No, no, no. You're lessening the eternal Son of God. It took his eternal blood to purchase us. He had to go to hell to set them free out of it. So therefore, he went and took the keys to death, hell, and the grave. So if you lessen the severity of the punishment, you're saying the sin isn't that bad. Be careful of that. Think about it. Everything we're going through today is because Adam ate from the wrong tree. So therefore, we need to understand something. Now think about it. God said, in the day that you eat of that tree, you're going to die. Now he didn't physically die, but he was what? Separated from God. And as a result, natural death came into play. So now the mortality of man began to creep in. But even though a man dies, he still will face the judgment because we are eternal beings. So therefore, God does not, he's not going to create something that's eternal and then say it's not going to be eternal anymore. It was created to be eternal. Where you spend eternity is up to you. There will not be a cease to exist. There is no such thing, ladies and gentlemen, that is a lie of the enemy. Think about it for a minute. Think about what that says. I can live any way I want to live. I'll be in the fire for a couple of minutes, and then I'll go away. And I'll just cease to exist. It'll be everlasting destruction. I'll be, I won't be there no more. What type of punishment would that be? Think about it. What how would that be just for God to grant eternal life to those, but then just destroy those? I mean, you're about to go live. Just make a decision. You want eternal life or you want to just live anyway you want to live here on earth and then die and then you go away? You just cease to exist. And no, no, no, no, no, it doesn't work that way. We are all going to spend eternity somewhere. And if the, see, think about that for a minute. If you lessen that, you lessen the need for Jesus, you lessen the need for the cross, you lessen the efficacy of his blood and the price that he paid, you're lessening people's uh uh uh need for a savior because now I've got a way out. If that were the case, I mean, think about it. People that die in a fire here, it's no different than you go to hell. You go into a fire for a little bit and you die. Well, same thing that would happen in eternity. And if you lessen that, then also it's like, I don't really need Jesus. I'd I'll just prefer to live my life here, and then I won't have eternal life. I'll just cease to exist. Ladies and gentlemen, that is preposterous. The Bible is clear, and I've showed you all throughout the scriptures here: eternal destruction, everlasting destruction. They are when you see eternal life and everlasting destruction, whether you read it in Matthew 25, 46, Mark 9, 42 through 48, 2 Thessalonians 1, 9, Jute 1.7, Revelation 14, 9 through 11, Revelation 20, 10 through 15, any of them, Matthew chapter 8, verse 12. I didn't even go there as well. You can go to any single one of them, and they will all show you this. Look at this. And Matthew 8, verse 12, but the sons of the kingdom will be cast into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to catch this. Don't, don't, don't fall into reasoning that, you know, we start lessening uh the punishment of eternal uh salvation, eternal damnation. It's eternally being damned. It's eternal, it's not just damnation. It's not just they will be destroyed. No, it's eternally. It's eternal suffering, it's eternal fire. And if the fire doesn't go out, it's because the fuel does not burn. It doesn't burn up, it's not consumed. Are you following me? It's everlasting fire for people that are everlasting. And there's no such thing as, well, you're gonna live forever if you serve for God and you're gonna have a wonderful life. And the rest of you, you're gonna burn a little bit, and then after that, you're gonna be gone and you'll just cease to exist, and we'll move on and be happily ever after. No, they will be in there, the Bible says, their smoke of their torment will rise before us day and night, and they will never rest, and there will be no cease to that. So I wanted to take a minute to talk to you all about this because it was something that was really grieving uh into my heart. Um, because I, as soon as I saw it, my spirit was grieved. And I said, Oh my gosh, you know what we just did? We just lessened the need for Jesus. We lessened the need for the blood. He's, and they kept saying he'll be merciful to them. There's no way that God will, if you go back to go watch Kirk Cameron and his son, you can watch the whole thing and you'll see where I'm going with it. Uh, maybe tomorrow I'll show you some clips. I got some other things I want to go over as well. I'm definitely gonna hit the Jamal Bryant thing. Uh, definitely I got something for you all for that as well. But I want you to catch this, though. I uh it as soon as I heard it, my heart was just heavy. I said, oh God, forgive us. Forgive anybody that's buying into that, believing that, preaching that. Father, forgive them. Father, let the truth come forth. Because what that would say to me, if I'm an unbeliever, that's cool. I'm gonna go live how I want to live. I'll just cease to exist one day. Doesn't work that way. We are all eternal. We are all gonna spend eternity somewhere. The question is where? The great white throne judgment is where people will be perfected in sin. And the people that when they gave their life to the Lord, the moment they die, will be perfected in righteousness. Those unbelievers, everything that could have been redeemed will be extracted. They will become demonic in every sense of the word with no ability, heart, reasoning, or desire to be redeemed, which is why they will suffer eternally. That God will extract out the negative out of the believer, and he will extract anything that could have been redeemed out of the unbeliever. And we will be left eternally in those states. And that's the reason why the suffering will happen the way that it will. So I hope that you've been blessed by this. I know I went a little bit longer. Go back and listen to it, download the podcast, get in on this uh and take it with you. Listen to it again and again and again. Uh, don't stop listening to it because it'll really be a blessing to you. And I want you to have this. I really do. I want you to understand uh what the Spirit of the Lord is saying. And I really believe that this is not something that's just my opinion. This isn't something like whether you believe in tongues or don't believe in tongues, or this is something that could really mess with people's belief in Jesus Christ, which is why I wanted to bring this to your attention. So listen to it again, study it, do your own research, meditate on it. But that's what we're doing here on Dimension. I'm gonna make sure every single day there's a word in season. And then tomorrow I might be getting into the dress code of these first ladies running around here. I don't know. I'm gonna I might have to hit that one, y'all. I might hit it tomorrow. I'm gonna bring my wife on with me as well, and we're gonna get in on that. And I want her opinion on it as well. So you're not gonna want to miss it. Download the podcast. Otherwise, guess what? Tomorrow I will be right back here on Dimensions at 8 p.m. Set your timer. Be back. I'll be back here live, checking it out, going deeper, keeping oil in your lamps, love in your heart, send leaven out of your life. I'll see you next time.