Creating Space for Wonder: Faith, Family & the Tarquinios

God is always talking to us. Through the Holy Spirit, He calls us to live purposeful lives and share the gospel with others. But are we listening? One family has been responding to their calling by stepping out in faith BOLDLY for most of their lives. Hosted by Dr. Brad Schultz and Amanda Price, this …. is Mustangs Unbridled.

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Speaker 1
God is always talking to us through the Holy Spirit. He calls us to live purposeful lives and share the Gospel with others. But are we listening? One family has been responding to their calling by stepping out in faith boldly or most of their lives. Hosted by Dr. Brad Shultz and Amanda Price. Yes, this Mustang's online.

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Speaker 2
God's timing is not our timing. He holds a divine purpose for each of us, regardless of our age, personal ambitions, our own perceived timelines. When we choose to set aside our individual aspirations and follow the calling of the Holy Spirit, God performs marvelous works through us.

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Speaker 1
Lipscomb Academy parents Gavin and Lindsay. Taekwondo are a testament to this truth. While both have built successful careers following their passions, they followed their calling and stepped out in faith to co-found a Christian school and safe haven for impoverished children in South Africa. Welcome to the studio, Gavin and Lindsay. Thanks for having us. So I feel like this is a really important topic.

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Speaker 1
The reason that you actually stepped out in faith and it has to do with listening to the voice of God, and we try to tell our students, You always have to be listening. God's always talking that you may not hear him. So I want to know. Lindsay, I'm going to start with you. How did you know that the voice you were hearing was the voice of God?

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Speaker 1
Because I know there are a lot of other voices that are that are vying for your attention. And I want to know you are really you were really young when this happened. So tell. Tell me about this. This bold faith, the courage to do what you did.

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Speaker 3
Well, I. I think I was really fortunate to grow up in a family that Jesus was just a part of our every day. And I remember even when I was really young, feeling like he was my friend, like, in a very real way. And I grew up with that grandma, that the Holy Spirit was such a presence in her life that it was just undeniable.

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Speaker 3
And she modeled for me what it looks like to hear him and to seek him, but also to listen. And so I think seeing that from the time I mean, as long as I can remember, really shaped that in me. And then when I went to college, I read a book called Crazy Love by Francis Chan and in it there was this excerpt that I think kind of shaped the way that I have lived since then.

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Speaker 3
Gavin, I think, has heard me say this so many times. The thing that I have tried to live by and that I think we've both made decisions by is that God doesn't call us to be comfortable. He calls us to trust him so completely that we put ourselves in positions that are destined to fail unless he intervenes. And I think when you live that way, it gives you the opportunity to see him so much more clearly and see him come through and see such a way that it shapes the way that you make all of your decisions.

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Speaker 3
So I don't mind. I'll read this longer excerpt that I think kind of explains how we ended up in South Africa and how we decided to move forward with what we were doing, says the scriptures are filled with commands and references about caring for the poor and for those who cannot help themselves. The crazy part about God's heart is that he doesn't just ask us to give.

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Speaker 3
He desires that we love those in need as much as we love ourselves. That is the core of the second greatest commandment to love your neighbor as yourself. He is asking that you love as you would want to be loved if you or your child were blind. From drinking contaminated water to love the way that you would want to be loved if you were homeless.

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Speaker 3
Sitting outside of a cafe. To love as though it were your family living in a shack slapped together from cardboard and scrap metal. We've conditioned ourselves to hear messages without responding. Sermons have become Christian entertainment. We go to church to hear a well developed sermon and a convicting thought. We've trained ourselves to believe that if we're convicted, our job is done.

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Speaker 3
If you're just hearing the Word of God and not actually doing something with it, then you're deceiving yourself. And I remember reading that and being like, I don't want to live that way. Like, I want to live out God's word in real time and not just sit there and feel good about myself for hearing it, but actually go and do something about it.

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Speaker 1
So kind of how old were you when you did this?

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Speaker 3
I was 18, I think.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, That's I mean, that's bold to be so young and to know that the voice you're hearing is the voice of God. And then to actually step out into faith and do what he's calling you to do.

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Speaker 2
So, Gavin, your journey took a more of a high pressure, high profile environment in sports, being on track to be a professional athlete, playing at Georgia Tech and then with the Atlanta Falcons. So tell me a little about your time playing professional sports, college sports as well, and then what kind of changed your trajectory to where you went after that?

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Speaker 4
Yeah. So I think for me that the journey of faith kind of really starts in that college phase, right? I think for me, seeing people that did life in a way that was inspiring to me and and without them shouting from the rooftops or even kind of trying to proclaim their faith, we kind of did it by actions versus the words.

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Speaker 4
And I think for me, the curiosity of those relationships really kind of fueled that desire in that journey for that personal relationship with Christ. And for me, that kind of led me into the world of professional sports. And as I embarked on this next chapter, a good friend of mine introduced me to a gentleman named Alex, who actually introduced Lindsey and I, and he was a musician and and traveled the world playing guitar.

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Speaker 4
And and he brought me in and kind of taught me truly how to understand and study the Bible. And we met weekly and he's a small musician. That's awesome and quirky, but I'll never forget the first time that we had lunch together and I was still playing football and he couldn't get over the volume of food that I consumed.

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Speaker 4
But but he was just somebody who really showed me what it was like to build the muscles of faith and in believing in the unknown. And so as it kind of brings us to the professional world of sports, right? Lindsey was on her way to South Africa after graduating from college and four and I stayed back in As she was there, she was kind of explaining stories and sharing stories with me of fourth graders who didn't know their ABCs or having to feed kids with a box of rotten apples.

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Speaker 4
And and for me, it was just kind of this epiphany point of like, what's the what's the purpose of my life? What's the chapter that I want to write about this next phase? And for me, it was just kind of this epiphany of football was what I was good at, but not what I loved about what it was, was a conduit to kind of show my appreciation to my parents of being great at something that was valuable and well respected in the world of kind of the, I guess, the American dream.

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Speaker 4
Right. And so but I had kind of had this realization that I've reached that and I showed that gratitude piece, but it wasn't fulfilling for me in maybe it was kind of this time to, to add purpose, right? I had this prestige and fame and, and, and that didn't bring any kind of fulfillment. And maybe it was purpose, right?

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Speaker 4
And so as we talked more about the kids in South Africa, we just decided to to do something about it. And then I quit football and we eventually spent a long time moving and living there off and on for about seven years. So.

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Speaker 1
So when you told your parents that you want to fulfill your purpose, your calling, and that meant going in a different direction, what was their response?

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Speaker 4
I mean, I think they had probably two responses. I think their initial response was, Well, can't you do both? Right? Because the timeline of professional sports is finite, right? And you can only do it for so many years. And it's when you're in your kind of peak physical prime. And but I think the other part was there was a little bit of they admired that choice.

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Speaker 4
Right. And and though they may not fully understand the why they were supportive of it and I mean, my parents are big, big cheerleaders. I think if I decided if it wasn't moving to Africa and it was to be a ballerina, they would be like super supportive and be like, you'd be the most amazing ballerina on the planet.

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Speaker 4
You know, They're just very encouraging people.

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Speaker 1
Well, so you just said on and off you lived in Africa for about seven years. And when your when you took your first step, it's a bill. It's called Lua. Right. To pronounce it correctly. So that's in a different country. It's on a different continent. You're both really young when this happened. And so from that mindset, you didn't really know the obstacles that you were going to encounter the cultural differences, or how do you actually how do you eradicate poverty for for for young children?

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Speaker 1
So not knowing any of this, what was your vision? What were your expectations for this school when you started in 19 years ago? Like what in your minds? We're like, We're going to do this and this is what I think it is because colonist make it look like.

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Speaker 3
I think when you're young, you don't know what the obstacles are supposed to be. So I went. I went to Africa when I was 17 for the first. Yeah, maybe 18 for the first time. I went to Zambia and I met all of these amazing kids that just had nothing, but they had so much joy and I was so drawn there.

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Speaker 3
And when I was there, I met someone that told me about a woman in South Africa who was taking in street kids. And I'm like, I want to do that. I want to go and help her. And so I called her. I cold, called her and said, Hi, can I come and live with you next summer and help you do whatever you're doing?

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Speaker 3
And she said, Sure. I hadn't met Gavin at this point and spent the next year fundraising. My family thought I was completely crazy and I did not know her or anything about her or anything about where she lives. But I planned this trip and then I met Gavin and I'm sitting there talking to him and I'm like, I'm going to this tiny town.

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Speaker 3
This is like, Right when we met leaving in two months, it's on the coast in South Africa. No one's ever heard of it before. And he's like, Where in South Africa? And I'm like, It's this little town called Jeffreys Bay. It has a tiny population. And he about passes out because he was born in Hawaii and his whole life had decided that when he was done playing football, he was moving to Jeffreys Bay, South Africa, to live in an RV and surf because it has one of the best surfing waves in the world.

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Speaker 1
So did Brad. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
I was down by a river right?

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Similar dreams. And so he is like, Excuse me, you're going to Jeffreys Bay, South Africa in two months? And I'm like, Yeah, when I go and live with this woman, I didn't know anything about surfing. And so we start dating. So I go and we have been dating for two months and I'm telling him what I'm seeing and the kids that I'm meeting.

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Speaker 3
And by the time I got home, he is like, we need we need to help them. And we realized that the best way to help them was by starting a school because we noticed that they had no access to any sort of decent education and the only hope for them to be able to change their circumstance was to be educated in a country that has limitless opportunities.

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Speaker 3
If you're if you have a good education, but it's set up in a way where if you come from a township, you don't have that opportunity. And so by the time I got home, we had decided we were going to start a school. We have no background in education or starting schools or anything like that. So I think honestly it was because we were young and naive that we were like, Oh, we can totally do this.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, I think for me it's later on some friends and I wrote a song in that song, it's there's a verse that says in this moment we're all the same. We're more than numbers. We all have nine names. And I think for for me, it's as you think about the millions and millions of kids who live in this poverty cycle and worrying about today and hoping for tomorrow, I think you can become paralyzed by the volume of that number.

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Speaker 4
Like if you can change the perspective of that number to a person and to a face to a name like, the impact becomes much more tangible and much more capable than trying to kind of eradicate poverty. Right? It's like all of a sudden you have these faces and these names of these handful of kids and Geoffrey South Africa, and you want to do something about it.

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Speaker 4
Right? And so it's just that personal connection and looking them in the eyes and knowing that you have resource and potential capabilities, right. To to to be a voice for them when they don't have the voice.

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Speaker 3
When it started, it was 23 kids. So it was not this grand vision of, oh, it's going to be a school in 20 years. It was there's 23 kids that we can teach their ABCs that we can our kind of foundation was we wanted to provide education, medical care, spiritual formation and nutrition because we realized many of them were malnourished.

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Speaker 3
There is a 80% unemployment rate in the township and so many of the kids didn't know where their next meal was coming from, let alone like care about learning because they're so hungry. And so we decided if we meet their physical needs, then we can start meeting their emotional needs and their spiritual needs while we're educating them. And so it started with 23 and then it grew.

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Speaker 1
And what does Lumo mean?

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Speaker 3
lUOh means to set free.

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Speaker 2
So how many times over the past 19 years have you been back to South Africa to visit the school or just, I guess, just visit South Africa in general?

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Speaker 4
I mean, I'll be making a ballpark guess, but I would say between ten and 15 times.

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Speaker 3
For you, I've been 22 times. Wow. But we took a break while we had kids. So four years we were going 2 to 4 times a year because we were figuring out what it looked like. The woman that I went and stayed with, she is still running. The school is called It's Himba and it Himba means hope and so she's still running the school now.

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Speaker 3
But at first it was I was trying to figure out, well, what what is this even look like in a township where there's no teachers? So we started training women from the community to be teachers. And it started with just a preschool. And then it slowly grew and we were able to train more people and have more teachers.

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Speaker 3
And she still runs the school to this day and it just slowly grew. So we for seven years were there hiring people, interviewing people, trying to work in the community, build trust. We have a a training program for parents or guardians. So their understanding like, what does it look like to care for a child brushing your teeth like basic things that we take for granted that weren't happening there.

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Speaker 3
And so there's so many programs going on that over those years we were trying to build it and troubleshoot and figure out what to do. In 2010, we realized there were some kids that didn't have a safe place to live, so we started fundraising for a safe house and completed that in 2011. So we have a house mom that lives there full time, and then we have up to 12 kids that live there that are it's essentially an orphanage, but a safe house for children that didn't have somewhere to go.

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Speaker 3
And so that's on the same property as the school. And then we got to a point where we were going and everything was just running. We had teachers, we had cooks, we had all the programs are running and we're like, What are we doing? Because we were going and had absolutely nothing to do, which was amazing. And that's when we realized that it was time to kind of pivot.

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Speaker 3
And we started different career paths at that point. But then we're going back regularly still and fundraising and then had our kids and stayed very connected but weren't going as often, and then went back recently with the kids.

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Speaker 2
So when you read your passage earlier, you talk about doing things that are destined to fail unless God's present. And so just thinking of your I mean, what you were able to create and do during those times, are there any specific examples where you saw God's fingerprints on things, where, you know, we could have done this by ourselves, Right?

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Speaker 2
This this is something God had in mind and we were just vessels to make it happen. Is there any specific examples of barriers to overcome or obstacle?

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Speaker 3
I think the whole thing is destined to fail. And what Scott intervenes. We had been dating two months when it started and we had people coming from every direction giving us money. We had lawyers coming in telling us they would incorporate us and make a nonprofit, and we had people that ran conferences saying, You can get up on stage and ask this conference for anything that you want to.

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Speaker 3
And we're like, Wow, there is no explanation for why it worked other than God intervening because there was nothing about it that made sense for people to want to get behind us in the way that they did and for or or the success of the school to really there's no explanation. We had no idea what we were doing besides walking through doors that God opened right now, if you have other thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4
But yeah, I think there's heartbreaking obstacles, right, as you hear some of the stories of these kids, but then their desire to come back or or even kids that have been displaced from Zimbabwe that are now in South Africa, and now they're in our programs and seeing them thrive and all of a sudden qualifying for the private schools and us being able to provide scholarships for them to go to the private schools.

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Speaker 4
Right. Like just seeing the impact of two young, naive adults that are just signing up for. Yes, I think is the part that as we kind of reflect backwards, it's like not necessarily in the moment of times of these huge obstacles, but almost kind of reflecting backwards and being like, wow, look at all of the stuff that's happened.

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Speaker 4
And, you know, the joke I always make is, look, I kind of I kind of ball for a living. And that's kind of how I was leveraged by God to kind of work with these kids and work with Lindsey to kind of help and and we're almost at 20 years now. It's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1
Like you said, it started with 23 kids and one woman. What has it grown to today? How many kids?

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Speaker 3
We have maxed out at 350 kids because the property doesn't allow any more kids. And in South Africa, in the townships, you have to be given land. And so for years we worked to get more land to expand and then realized that that wasn't going to happen. But what we had the opportunity to do is go deeper and try to be more excellent at what we were doing.

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Speaker 3
So we were able to build additional buildings on our property and then we went up to two stories on the property and we have now maxed out every square inch of that property. But we have a commercial kitchen there now that has been donated. We have a playground with turf and everything is done really excellently because as we weren't able to keep growing in numbers, which has been a really beautiful lesson, I think, of being able to just go deeper.

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Speaker 3
So we start taking kids at two years old and then they go through first grade and then at first grade we provide scholarships to private schools in the area that are better equipped to prepare them for the future. All the way through high school, we do scholarships and then once they go to college, that's that's kind of our next, I think, tier that we're working on is we now have kids able to go to college, which is incredible, but how do we pay for college?

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Speaker 3
So even with scholarships, that's expensive and that's kind of what we're starting to look at as I don't think we even had the thought that our little two year olds, when we started would be in college and now here we are. And so I think that's kind of our next phase.

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Speaker 1
Let's see. I was going to ask you, what is your dream for this community and for these kids in the next 20 years? You're going to figure out a way to send them all to college.

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Speaker 3
That would.

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Speaker 1
Dream big.

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Speaker 4
Right? I think the dream for us is to cover their daily needs so the kids can actually learn and build and develop the muscle of dreaming. Right. I think that's kind of a bigger piece of of it is like if you can meet the daily needs of these kids, you now create space for wonder. And I think for us, right, like the more kids that can go through these programs to have the space of wonder to let God work in their lives, to change the trajectory of where they're going to have maximum impact.

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Speaker 4
Right. Like that's the hope. I mean, obviously, just like in the States, right. Not everybody's designed for college, right? There's some vocational gifts and and so on and entrepreneurship and all of those things. And I think for us, it's really like the desire to create the space for that wonder, for them to be able to decide and figure out and dream what that next chapter is.

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Speaker 1
I love that answer.

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Speaker 3
I think the thing that was so surprising for us at first and hard for us as Americans to understand was kids that don't know where their next meal is coming from and don't know if they have a safe place to sleep at night. The last thing they're thinking of is what they want to be when they grow up.

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Speaker 3
And for us, our kids are dressed as fairies and princesses and firefighters when they're two and three years old. These kids had no concept of what it means to think about the future because they're thinking about the next 5 minutes all the time. And part of I think what was so important for us was to figure out how we teach them to dream once their needs are met in a community where no one's talking about that.

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Speaker 3
So I just got a video last week of our kindergartners in there all dressed up as what they want to be when they grow up. And that felt like the biggest win to me, because you have a little girl dressed as a nurse next to a little boy, dressed as a policeman, and then you have some princesses and you have some ninjas and you're like, they finally are at the point of feeling secure enough that their needs are met, that they're able to think about what they want in the future.

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Speaker 3
And that felt like a huge win.

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Speaker 2
So two years ago you joined the Love Kim family. So glad that you did and glad to have you guys here. So what brought you to Nashville into Lipscomb?

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Speaker 3
One of those nudges from the Holy Spirit? I think when we were visiting friends, we saw Lipscomb just driving and I Googled what Sali was because I saw it on the side of the building and we started reading about it and realized that it met our daughter's needs. So I scheduled a tour when we were here already. And on the tour I remember so clearly feeling like it was where we were supposed to be, and I kind of tried to brush it off because like, I don't even know how I feel about that, do I want to move to Nashville?

00;27;10;26 - 00;27;38;09
Speaker 3
Do the I don't know how I feel about this? And then we brought Kai for a shadow day. And I remember again, standing there was like pumpkins outside. And I was standing and talking to Jana. And I remember again feeling like God was saying, This is where you're supposed to be. And that day we drove back to Atlanta and decided to put our house for sale, not knowing if Kai got in.

00;27;38;09 - 00;27;56;05
Speaker 3
But I was so sure she was going to because I felt like God told me that. And so we did. And then she got in and our house was not sold and we rented an Airbnb above Lady Bird, Taco Impact two suitcases, and she started school a couple of days later.

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Speaker 1
Wow.

00;27;57;23 - 00;28;32;25
Speaker 3
So it's a that's what led us here. What has been so amazing about being here is seeing the way that not just Sollee but Lipscomb as a whole has welcomed our family and our son, who I kind of forgot to apply in the mix of moving here. He ended up starting kindergarten when she started second grade, and it's just been amazing to see how quickly our kids felt so at home.

00;28;32;25 - 00;29;03;05
Speaker 3
And for Kai especially who she she has dyspraxia and has struggled her whole life with just any educational environment because she is so smart and she's so driven, but she just fine motor wise, cannot keep up with her peers. And for her to be in a place where they can meet her needs and meet her exactly where she is, but not make her feel different or make her feel weird.

00;29;03;05 - 00;29;12;11
Speaker 3
She just felt loved and accepted so instantly I became Lipscomb biggest fan.

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Speaker 2
So what is it that you wish other families knew about Salt Lake School?

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Speaker 4
Yeah, I think for me, the solid school is this very unique concept. I think on the surface a lot of people assume a lot of schools have. But I think where the line starts to kick fork in the road and and slowly becomes materially different is the way that the integration of the kids with with within the Solway school or with the general school as well as their ability to allow this all these kids to meet their kind of general peers with wherever they are of leading chapel in their own way, and and letting the kids be able to be free in their own gifts and talents.

00;30;13;18 - 00;30;52;09
Speaker 4
Right. Of the solid school kids and how that has a byproduct to the general kids. Right. I think the the true inclusivity right definition right is what Lipscomb does when it comes to Solway in particular. And so like, that is just very unique because I think how people define inclusivity is a wide range of spectrums. And I think Lipscomb has one of the broadest ones, especially when it comes to that, because these kids are truly brought in and accepted just the way that God created them to be.

00;30;52;12 - 00;31;34;09
Speaker 3
So yeah, I think I wish people understood the way that having Solly present at the school has transformed not just those kids, but all of the kids. I think the type of empathy and compassion that kids at Lipscomb have is very, very different. We were unfortunately at many different schools before Lipscomb because I would see things in the way that CHI was treated or academically ways that she was being held back because they didn't understand how to teach her.

00;31;34;11 - 00;32;01;04
Speaker 3
And so as her mom, I took on this role of advocating for what she needed. But when I would see an issue, we would pivot to a new school and try to find a different solution. And coming here and seeing the way that the teachers at Lipscomb and the teachers in Solid don't give up when it comes to figuring out what works best for her.

00;32;01;06 - 00;32;33;22
Speaker 3
So her general homeroom teacher works with her school teacher to make sure that she is included in the class and is able to do everything that the class does. But then the way that her peers treat her is so incredibly different. And I think that it's a really unique thing for kids to get to come to school and learn how to see others the way that God sees them in a way that they don't they don't get that chance in a lot of other places.

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Speaker 3
And I think that Solly has changed the way that these kids are going to grow up and interact with anyone that's different than them.

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Speaker 1
Okay. I have one final question. Okay. I hear that you have a talent and a passion that not many people have. So it's a niche market that you're a private chef. What's it.

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Speaker 3
Was.

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Speaker 1
You were a private chef. But I still consider that current day a present tense because people I brought in, I don't cook and we don't know how to cook. And he does a lot of DoorDash and we do a lot of pizza. So when it comes to you with your clients past tense, did you and I think you kind of alluded to this, I mean, talking about you didn't have a favorite recipe.

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Speaker 1
Mm hmm. Do you have preset menus or do you do seasonal options or is it whatever the client wants you to. So whip something up?

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Speaker 4
Can I chime in? Okay. So I always preface because I think a lot of people think of a private chef as kind of somebody who kind of comes in and cooks food is in the background and.