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More Than a Studio: Bryan Fittin on Video, Vision, and Values
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Video podcasting is becoming increasingly popular but can be intimidating if you don't know how to achieve good quality that audiences expect on social platforms.
• Bryan from Go Rogue Studio has operated his full-service production studio for over six years
• Getting the audio right should be the first priority before adding video elements
• Video podcasting serves as another way for audiences to consume content, alongside audio and written formats
• Bryan and his wife became foster parents and went from zero to four children in 18 months
• Go Rogue Studio focuses on "founder-led marketing" - helping business owners, C-suite executives, authors and coaches create professional video content
• The studio hosts quarterly meetups for creators to network and connect
Find Bryan on Instagram at @heybryanhey and learn more about his studio @go_rogue_studio and goroguestudio.com.
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danielle , there's something on my list that I really want to get into for our next season and it's video podcasting , because I know that a lot of podcasters that we've talked to that's something that they want to get into . It isn't very intimidating and if you don't know what you're doing , it's hard to get that really good video quality that people like want to consume . That kind of . I feel like the quality is like almost expected on a lot of social platforms that really good video quality for sure but does that mean we're gonna have to wear makeup and dress nice ?
Speaker 1yeah
Exploring Video Podcasting
Speaker 1well there are some that just wear like sweats , I think , as long as your face is done . But we have done one video podcast we have , and we have brian in the studio with go rogue studio and he knows all about this . I do he sets the stage I do .
Speaker 4We have many stages that we set many stages many stages yeah , so go .
Speaker 1Rogue studio for those that don't know is kind of like an all , all service studio . You can do just about anything . You can make any kind of stage , I mean , and it's over by the airport , it is yeah , just in case you're flying .
Speaker 4Yeah , just in case you're flying and you need to shoot some video content .
Speaker 1You know what I mean .
Speaker 3You never know it's a full production studio . Yes , full , can call it production studio .
Speaker 1I got you girl , thank you , yeah , and we've done . We recorded our interview with the mayor .
Speaker 4We did air orman there , yeah , right ?
Speaker 1how long have you been doing this ? How long have you owned ?
Speaker 4go rogue , go rogue , specifically over six years now , so I've been doing this for probably about 12 years or so , right around that . Yeah , before we get into , your full story .
Speaker 3tell us a little bit about how you got to northwest and I've been doing this for probably about 12 years or so , right around that . Yeah , before we get into your full story , tell us a little bit about how you got to Northwest Arkansas . We can't start an episode without knowing that .
Speaker 4Yeah , let's see . So I was born in Fort Smith , so about an hour or so south , but moved around the country , came back in or 2009 , was only going to be here for a little bit , and I was like and I met my wife and now I'm here forever and ever . Which ?
Speaker 1is okay , that's great , yeah , okay , so we should thank alex for we should , but what year did you ?
Speaker 4graduate high school 2003 oh my gosh , me too yeah , I think we've talked about yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , well , no , my neighbors are both from Fort Smith , but they're like two years younger than me , it's possibly , so we'll have to sidebar about this .
Speaker 3Yes , Definitely sidebar .
Speaker 4Yes , Nobody wants to go like okay , do you know such and such ? I know right .
Speaker 3I mean , I kind of want to know who you , who you're talking about ?
Speaker 4Yeah , who are your neighbors ? Yeah , who are your neighbors , We'll go sidebar .
Speaker 1They didn't give me their consent to talk about them oh that's too bad .
Speaker 3They might want to have a shout out on our show , though , I know . Okay , laura , and .
Speaker 1Ben Burglar but Laura Hadley , the Hadley family no . Okay never mind . See , now we're going to have to cut that because then they , you know , but I guess they're younger , so yeah , okay , well , yeah , side note , anytime somebody gets up and they're like I was .
Speaker 4I was in dallas no , I was outside of dallas . I was in fort worth no , it was a little town . You're like oh my gosh I don't know . It's kind of like the same people were like do you know such and such of such and such oh ?
Speaker 1yeah , it happens . I get that all the time . Oh , you're from dallas , do you know ?
Speaker 3dallas is so tiny . No , it's almost always no .
Speaker 1I do not know , I do not know You're from Texas .
Speaker 4You know somebody down there ? Yeah , absolutely Sorry . We're already off the rails , I know .
Speaker 1We're totally off the rails it's okay , though it's fun , at least y'all are awake now we are I mean kind of I'm kind of awake slowly making my way . We're going to need something stronger than coffee which I don't . Something legal .
Speaker 3You looked at Brock and you're like something legal though , Something strong , Something to wake us up , oh my . God , a shot of caffeine .
Speaker 4Yeah , by the way , monday morning to record these . That's a whole different level of .
Speaker 2I know .
Speaker 3I definitely know hey it's OK .
Speaker 4I mean again you get . You get different things out of a guest , I'm sure .
Speaker 3Yes , yes , we do we do and ourselves .
Speaker 1Back to how you got here . So you stayed here because of your wife .
Speaker 4Yes , yeah , and then I decided to yeah .
Speaker 1I like her , and then kind of around that time you kind of got into this world of media .
Speaker 4Yeah , so I actually I started , as picked up photography in 2007 . So I lived east coast , I
Brian's Journey to Northwest Arkansas
Speaker 4actually lived in Texas as well , so , and so I started getting into photography while I was traveling and and whatnot . And then 2013 was when I actually decided to do a podcast with a friend of mine , eric Henson Explanify in Fayetteville , and I wanted to interview people in the area that were in kind of tech startup world . So I was still in corporate and so we were just doing it as a side project and so I did it . It was fun , went to a couple of conferences and learned how to do some production on the side .
Speaker 4And then we actually were an adoptive , foster family and my wife she mentioned she was like hey , there's not a lot of resources out there for adoptive moms .
Speaker 4There's a lot for families and kids and parents and that type of thing . She's like not specifically for the moms who are going through kind of the force of adoption , foster care , and so she's like I want to learn from these other adoptive moms , and so I started doing production for her on the back end , and then she's naturally great on the mic and camera and stuff , and so she just started connecting with all these people and her podcast blew up . It was like 130-something thousand downloads and she just crushed it and so all of a sudden , it was like I was figuring out how to market it , produce it , do all the things back 2015 , 2016 . Yeah , I say before podcasting the podcast has been around . It feels like it's just now hitting a peak , but it's all . It's felt like that for years , where it just kind of keeps growing and so anyway , so after that it was , it was like , how do we do this full time ?
Speaker 4and so I mean I'm kind of getting ahead of myself , but it kind of it . There's been a long journey to to get to this point so you fostered to adopt ?
Speaker 1how did that ? Because I know . I think the fact that she did a podcast about that is amazing , because I have friends who have done the same and I feel like a lot of the resources they have is usually at their church yeah , yeah but I love that she did that because , yeah , that's something that you definitely want to inform yourself about , not just from , like a google search . You want to like talk to people who actually are going through it , know what to expect so what made you guys decide to to do that ?
Speaker 4to foster adopt . Uh well , weirdly enough , I think it was our second date . We kind of got on the subject and we just were like yeah , so I grew my dad pastored a church , and so he had side jobs that were a full-time job as well as doing assistant pastor work .
Speaker 4But we just had like kids in our house all the time . It's like we just were Sunday school kids and all the things all the time . And so I kind of grew up with a bunch of , you know , just friends and kids around , and so that was my heart was like how do we do that , you know , in my life and in our family and stuff ? And so , anyway , we talked about that on our second date and it was just like she's like I've always wanted to adopt , but I want to adopt an older kid , and so we were thinking like older kid , like five , six , seven , you know something like that , but ended up getting a 14 year old . Yeah , so we went from zero kids to four kids in 18 months Whoa , Two bio two adopted . So I can give you the 30-second version of that real quick .
Speaker 1Yeah , okay , I want to hear it . Actually , we talked about Peekaboo .
Speaker 4I think we were featured at some point in that magazine . It was a wild time . So that was 2014 , 2015 . So we actually went through training we're pregnant during foster care , training through the call . Big shout out to the call . I know Brock's connected with them as well . They're a great organization .
Speaker 4So we had our baby , and then we're looking to get some foster kids , and we opened up our home . We had talked about , like we said we want
Fostering and Adoption Story
Speaker 4some older kids , we want to try to help that , and so we were looking at seven and then eight year olds , and then , all of a sudden , it was like nine year olds , and then they were like , hey , we've got this 11 year old . And we're like , oh man , that's , that's older . We've got a , now a baby at 11 year old . That's , that should be fine . And then they literally came . We got to know him and it was like his . We got him on after his 14th birthday , and it was kind of crazy . So that same week , though that we got him , we found out we're pregnant again with our daughter , and so he came in and we were like , hey , man , by the way , we got this baby , and also we found out we're pregnant and also you're a 14 year old traumatized kid like sorry .
Speaker 4And then three months later we found out that he had a half brother that was abandoned at the hospital by his bio mom and DHS calls us and they're like hey , we want to keep the brothers together , but we know you have a baby , you're pregnant and here's a two-week-old and so , yeah , so that's how our story . And then actually we're celebrating . My daughter's birthday is today . So she is nine years old , and so now we have two nine-year-olds , a 10-year-old and then the teenager . He's now 23 and he has his own family and they just had a baby , their second baby and so they're doing really well , oh my god .
Speaker 3So grandpa , your grandpa , I can't believe it we can joke yeah , we can joke about me , my wife .
Speaker 4On the other hand , she's not a big fan of being called granny or anything she's like . She's like 10 or 11 years older than yeah , clark is , is our , is our adopted kid ?
Speaker 1surely there's a more modern name than granny .
Speaker 3Yeah , you know what I mean around here , it's me mom , but my me mom's like almost 90 , so I mean it's , it fits right , yeah yeah , no , my , my mom likes lolo because she does not want to be grandma Grammy . None of that . Yeah , that's fair .
Speaker 1I'll be the same way to the day I die . I'm like don't call me just like D or DD , I don't care Anything , but like Meemaw or Mimi , you can be DD , I'll be DD .
Speaker 3Yeah , you totally look like a DD .
Speaker 1I can be .
Speaker 3DD , yeah for sure . Okay , back to Brian .
Speaker 1Yes , brian , this is good , I like this . Okay , so two nine-year-olds , and how old's your middle one ? Well , the middle one is nine as well . Yeah , there's two middle .
Speaker 4Two nine-year-olds , a 10-year-old and 23 .
Speaker 1Okay . Oh well , they're all three in that same that skibbity age .
Speaker 4Oh gosh , yeah , yes they are . They are Gen alpha to the max .
Speaker 3We understand .
Speaker 1It's so Sigma .
Speaker 3So Sigma .
Speaker 1I love . You know what I actually like this age .
Speaker 3I don't know .
Speaker 1Some people have disagreed with me , but no , I like this age too . I like this age .
Speaker 3Although a daughter hitting puberty early is not a likable situation , but it is what it is .
Speaker 1And I love her . Okay , so I have a practical question about how you made it through all that .
Speaker 4That's a great question so okay .
Speaker 1So let's say , like hypothetically I was interested in like fostering to adopt or something . How do you kind of like prep your , your kids ? Well , you , they were so little they didn't even know any different , yeah . But let's say you were going to advise someone who did like , let's say , I have a seven and an 11 year old and you're like , okay , we're going to have like an older child . Like how do you kind of , what's your advice on that ?
Speaker 4I don't know that I can speak to specific experience there are . We did , we did have people in our community that did have that situation , do and currently do have that situation . They're very much a . They are part of the family , especially if they're adopted . They're a part of the family like you don't .
Speaker 4There is no different language for them Like they're your brother , they're your sister , whatever it is , and we we've kind of dealt a little bit with that . The twin , we call them the twins . So rock and Jane , they're the two nine year olds . We joked about it because we're like they're so close in age .
Speaker 3And so they found out they thought they were twins .
Speaker 4This whole time they did yeah , so they they didn't understand what twins actually was , and so they were like oh , we had the . We don't have the same birthday . Somebody told us we're not twins .
Speaker 1They're like well , you're not they're like arguing with kids at school oh yeah , they're like no we are twins .
Speaker 4My mom calls us twins . Oh yeah , you , you are , but anyway , so it's . Yeah , I would . I mean there's there's lots of , lots of different opinions on this , but I mean they . You have to be able to actually say like there's , you love them the same , but there is different types of of love . I would say it's weird for us because it's not that , because we got him at two weeks old , but he's , oh yeah , we forget that he's adopted the youngest .
Speaker 4I mean , he just is , he's just yours , he's not that because we got him at two weeks old , but he's we forget that he's adopted I mean he just is , he's just yours , he's just ours . Yeah , we don't have any different language , so we've walked with him , though , through that journey and his story , and so he has questions . We will answer appropriately , but we're never like not talking about it or we'll tell you when you get older .
Speaker 4Nothing like that , it's like if he has a question , we'll , we'll tell him and so but I I do . I would say , for people who are fostering and they're bringing kids into their home , that is very tough and that's a tough conversation and some we've seen it go well and the kids are , you know the bio kids are like they're , they're good to go , they can adapt to the changing situation . Yeah , you , I think , have a very strong foundation for your family . If your marriage is kind of iffy and your kid's parenting is kind of like don't foster , don't bring , don't do that because it will exaggerate the stress that's already in your life .
Speaker 1Yeah , and so that's good advice . That is good advice . So make sure everything is pretty solid , because yeah it . So make sure everything is pretty solid because yeah , it doesn't have to be perfect but you definitely need to know , like with alex and I , it's like we are .
Speaker 4We are a team . Yeah right , you and I are a team because , clark , we love him to death . He's , he's the older one , he , but you know , he came from trauma , he came from hard places and and so he , he didn't know , and he tested us a lot , and so we had to be very stable and secure while raising babies , a teenager and babies , yeah , to be that united front problem .
Speaker 1Well , I think it speaks volumes that he has his own family now .
Speaker 4Oh , he's doing great , yeah statistically , he should not be where he is and he knows that we .
Speaker 4I mean , if anything , what we did we ? We brought him in as , like , we are not your mom and dad , we don't want to replace any part of your story , we just want to help give you a launching pad , like that was it . We're like we're going to give you a place that you can go out into the world . I mean , he tested that and he pushed back and all the things , but he got his high school diploma . It was a win . That was probably more on Alex , because she fought for that . She made sure he got that and then , yeah , he's married his high school sweetheart and they're doing .
Speaker 1I mean , they started I love that so cute . It is cute Sometimes when you know he's got a great job , she's great .
Speaker 4We love her to death too . And now they're a little guy , he's just amazing , he's so cute , he's two , two now , and he's , he's just . I mean , they're great parents and so , anyway , yeah , that's awesome , we'll see .
Speaker 1I mean my kids always like we want , we want a brother now and I'm like , well , the only way that's happening is if we adopt one .
Speaker 3Yeah so it's definitely on our heart . We've talked about adoption a lot yeah over the years and something , and we still like . There's often times where we you know , where we say our family's not complete so yeah and that and that definitely feels real to us all yeah most days , if anything , and then we make jokes about how our delia is really more of a middle child than a she was meant to be a middle she ever hears this , one day she's gonna be like this is why I'm on therapy in therapy mom there's a lot of reasons .
Speaker 3Oh my gosh yeah , therapy is fine . I do therapy . We should all be doing therapy honestly , uh . But yeah , we make jokes about how she's . She's our middle child , so our family's not complete , so one day we hope to adopt at some point and you know where that leads ? I don't know . Yeah , kind of exciting . We're getting closer to that point for sure , oh yeah , yeah , I was just .
Speaker 1You did it when you had infants yeah , that is really impressive .
Speaker 3And
Lord of the Rings Birthday Party
Speaker 3yeah , I mean , I don't know I wouldn't recommend that don't adopt a teenager when you have a newborn . Is that your recommendation ? Yeah , but you're glad you did it . Yeah , absolutely . Oh , we wouldn't . Yeah , that was your journey these are , they're our kids .
Speaker 4And and clark , I mean he , he introduces us as mom and dad , um , you know out . But I mean if we have a , we have more of a big brother , maybe a cool aunt situation yeah him and um , love him to death . But yeah , it is . I wouldn't , like I said , I don't want to ever turn anybody away from like you should . If you have it in your heart to do that , absolutely . I'm just saying , like , make sure your family structure is set up well , um that you can support , because I mean these kids need you .
Speaker 4They're coming into your home looking for some stability , even fighting against your stability , and yes you need to be able to obviously be there for them in those situations . So , and also too , I want to get , I want to clarify so it's not always recommended to do like foster to adopt right and and even the foster kids , like they want you to be able to be open , to take any kid and give them a bed .
Speaker 4You know and like I said , some stability . So in our situation , our plans were to adopt , but it wasn't necessarily like we were trying to find the one that we wanted to adopt right right , yeah , I would say fostering , especially just one figuring out trauma . Trauma is a just a whole beast of its own . So get as much counseling and therapy as you can to understand trauma , because it's hard , it's very hard , yeah , to understand like their react , people's reactions yeah I'm impressed that you guys talked about this on the second date .
Speaker 1I feel like you must have both felt really comfortable already yeah , yeah that , or maybe it's just better to be straightforward when you're dating . We both , you know it was .
Speaker 4it was yeah , it was yeah . It was strange . We both were like we're kind of done like with dating . It was like we met each other . It was great and I don't know what it was , but there was something in my , my shift and my thinking and her shift as well . We were just like here's , I don't want Like me . Like I would like this to go somewhere If you don't . Like we're not playing , and so we both . It was like we don't , we're not playing any games .
Speaker 3So Apparently , Brian was a player before he met Alex . That's what I'm reading into this .
Speaker 1I was like wait , did Brock tell you that ?
Speaker 3I know that's totally a Brock line . That really was . I'm sorry , Alex , Sorry .
Speaker 4Alex . Sorry , brian , we can say this . It's been kind of a running joke , but her friend knew like we were mutually introduced . But then people in her community and then also people in my community , both were like , oh , don't date Alex . Like she kind of dates around a little bit . Like don't date Brian , he dates around a little bit . And so they were both like it came from both sides , and so we joke about it now because it's you know .
Speaker 1So you're a perfect match ?
Speaker 3Yeah , we were , you were a perfect match , you both found each other and you're like , oh , we're done , we did , and it's funny , our former pastor .
Speaker 4He actually joked like when we're going through premarital counseling and stuff , he was like yeah , it was kind of up in the air for you guys . He was like I would never told you that then , but now you know we would be married , it'll be 13 years this year , so we've been together for 15 years .
Speaker 1But yeah , okay , premarital counseling . I just want to take a side note about this sidebar because I had premarital counseling at a baptist church that I grew up in and we were married in and loved the church church , the couple that did our premarital counseling I'm not sure if they were qualified .
Speaker 2Most times they're not Because okay just let me give you an example .
Speaker 1Yes , he said that at work every email that he sent to a female he would copy her on . So she felt comfortable and I just felt like that seems like maybe not necessary .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1I don't know , that was a little odd . I did like when he said though that don't let your women clean the toilet . Her hands should never be in toilet . I was like that's good advice . So now we've got one bad one good , oh my gosh .
Speaker 4And I was like Elliot .
Speaker 3Side note you don't have to copy me on every email to another Like can you yeah , please don't To another female , and I can't imagine doing the same Like let me just CC my husband because I'm emailing a man , isn't it not like ?
Speaker 4company information . There's like all like so many like proprietary things that you should not be copying . An external email .
Speaker 1That is bizarre . Thank you Like proprietary company information to like a Gmail account .
Speaker 4Yeah , here's all these reports and stuff like that .
Speaker 1So I don't want to totally disparage my premarital counseling , but there were some things that I was like definitely not doing that yeah not taking that advice . But overall I mean we're you know I'm glad you did it , yeah are you though ?
Speaker 3yes , yeah , okay , all right , just making sure yeah I would redo our premarital counseling with somebody that we knew and felt comfortable with , because I think that we could have worked through some things before we got married . I mean , it wasn't like there was anything really bad , but there were just some things .
Speaker 1Was yours optional , because ours was mandatory .
Speaker 3No , it was mandatory , so , jeff and I have what's called a covenant marriage in the state of Arkansas . So it was like this whole bill that was . I don't really remember how it got passed , but the center for relationship enrichment kind of got this thing where , so like if we were to decide to get divorced , like we would have to go through counseling to and we would have to be separated for like two years . It's like a whole thing .
Speaker 4It's a whole thing . I didn't even know that .
Speaker 3So anyway , so the premarital counseling was required as a part of that , but we didn't do no , I didn't , I didn't hate it . It was just not somebody that we knew very well , and so I think , if I when I say would redo , I'd would have . I would have tried to find somebody that either we knew really well or that we felt really comfortable with talking about some of those hard things .
Speaker 1I would be a good . I would be good at that . I think , I will be real with these people . I will be real .
Speaker 3I would be a great we could do this together for people . You're getting married . Come talk to the two , danielle . This is how I could give back . You're so off topic . Let's get back to Brian's story ?
Speaker 1No , we're not . Let's get back to Brian's story . No , you know what ? I think you'd be good at it too .
Speaker 4I support this .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Absolutely . We have a podcast about premarital counseling .
Speaker 1Well , maybe . Nah , that's a great idea actually . Anyhow , back to you , Brian . Sorry , I'll comment on this I agree .
Speaker 4I think you should , if it's required by your pastor or somebody like that , like absolutely go through that , get all the counseling , get all the therapy . But also go through with somebody you trust , like we had another couple friend that were older than us and gave us some great advice , but it was more just hang out like hey , we're gonna intentionally be around each other and just help us learn how to be married and whatnot , but also hire professionals , you know like not just , not , just , not just not between emails well , I'm sorry , I was not mean that no , no , you guys are in the fun , we're not professionals I'm not offended .
Speaker 4I'm not offended either . Sign .
Speaker 1This document says we don't know how it's gonna turn out , but we're doing okay right I mean I don't . I think can it just be years of marriage is your qualification oh my god okay , so I want to talk about your 40th birthday , which I'm actually really sad that I missed right oh because it was lord of the rings themed emo lord of the rings , your husband was yeah , he was .
Speaker 3He was emoe gandalf yeah , what was his name ? What did brock ?
Speaker 1name him again randolph randolph the emoe , gandalf's emoe brother someone else our age that loves lord of the rings as much as I do , because danielle and I did like a writers panel at the high school and they were talking about , like what you know , literature you liked and I was almost like too embarrassed to say that , like I was really into the Hobbit and because I was and still am , like I love all that I graduated to , like George RR Martin as I got older a little more like they're all all good .
Speaker 4It's all good . I wore my hat today .
Speaker 1I know right and I quote it all the time , Like I was telling my dog last night you shall not pass . And she was trying to jump on my bed , oh my gosh . But I'm sad that I missed it because everything was like Lord of the Rings themed Brock DJ'd it .
Speaker 4He did . Man Brock , can you get on the mic ? Is that possible , dude ? I will say it was epic . It was way more than I even dreamed of , and Brock brought the heat .
Speaker 2Man , I would say it was a birthday party .
Speaker 4Brock does these all the time he's like . Eh , it's fine .
Speaker 2It was good . It was good .
Speaker 4Yeah Well , I told him I was like I want a mix of emo and Lord of the Rings . And then you had this like soundtrack set up . It was like very Lord of the Rings music and then you would transition into .
Speaker 2It was the themes to Lord of the Rings because it was a Lord Did you ever find the ring .
Speaker 4Oh no , we didn't .
Speaker 1No , we destroyed it , it was like the king cake , but you're trying to find the ring in the cake .
Speaker 4Somebody swallowed it in one of those cookies . I think Probably probably .
Speaker 3Oh my God . I think my favorite part was that Brian's wife Alex . She had temporary tattoos made of Brian's face .
Speaker 4Yeah , that was a surprise to me .
Speaker 3We had people with my face on their neck . Oh my God , that's awesome .
Speaker 1I put one on my arm .
Speaker 2I think Jeff put one on his shoulder .
Speaker 3I forget where he put it .
Speaker 4I don't remember .
Speaker 1It was a great theme .
Speaker 3It was a great theme it was so good yeah , it was really fun .
Speaker 1Speaking of the studio .
Speaker 4we had the studio space , so we actually transformed the whole thing into the Shire Lots of green . We had some amazing friends that had all kinds of artwork and different things . You guys brought the photo booth . It was legit .
Speaker 1Hobbits are your favorite .
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Speaker 4Hobbits ? No , not necessarily , the elves are just super big . That's my favorite Elves , for sure .
Speaker 1I had a big crush when the movies came out not necessarily orlando bloom , just the elf just , the elf just I like the elf culture . Yeah no , I always like if I had to live in like middle earth . I would have wanted to be an elf I agree , because they're immortal .
Speaker 3Yeah , obviously , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1So anyway , that's total . So emo too . I know I've had so much coffee today .
Speaker 3If somebody's still listening to this episode . Bravo , bravo to them .
Speaker 4You're going to be like they're like chasing .
Speaker 3What are they chasing today ?
Speaker 1You know what We'll get there ? I love it , though . We will get there .
Speaker 4Okay .
Speaker 1So you turned 40 . You know what We'll get there .
Speaker 4I love it , though we won't get there . Okay , so you turned 40 . I did Thank you , and I'm on my way there this year . No , no .
Speaker 1Yes , so we're both millennials , elder millennials , yes . So what are some hobbies that you're getting into as an elder millennial ?
Speaker 4Oh , hobbies , I'm getting back into mountain biking . I feel like I'm is that safe , though ? No , no I have a friend that broke his collarbone the other day , so it's just not , it's not safe .
Speaker 1I have so many friends with metal collarbones yeah yeah , from mountain biking wow
Speaker 4yeah , hobbies , I don't have that many , I mean space . Oh yeah , well , I mean you talk about hobbies , I mean lord of the Rings has become an obsession for me . Space has always been so when we relaunched Go Rogue , a friend of mine did the branding and he put the Red Bull guy that did the stratosphere the big jump that he did the highest jump and I was like , oh , I love astronauts , Always has as a kid , that was my big thing .
Speaker 4I was like , oh , I love astronauts , Always has as a kid , that was my big thing . And so for a Christmas present several years ago , my family sent me to space camp adult space camp . I love it . It was pretty awesome .
Speaker 1I have a question that you may not want to answer because it's a very hot topic right now . Yeah , oh , gosh , okay . So let's say you went to kind of outer space For like 10 minutes or something 11 minutes .
Speaker 4Oh , 11 . You come back and kiss the ground .
Speaker 1Would you call yourself an astronaut ?
Speaker 4Oh , interesting .
Speaker 1If you trained for two days and paid $28 million to go to the very beginning of outer space ?
Speaker 4Personally , I don't think so , because I've seen a lot of what those astronauts go through and it is right , crazy , crazy it is , and he has gone to space camp .
Speaker 3I have been to space camp , so you've actually done more training .
Speaker 2You've done a lot more training than like gail king or well , here's the deal .
Speaker 4they take the other . I mean , this is not the first time people have gone to that level and gone to weightlessness , and those people do not consider themselves astronauts either . Didn't OK ? Go do their music video in a weightless , close to zero gravity type situation ? So anyway , yeah , no , I would not . I would not call yourself an astronaut .
Speaker 1I think it's cool , it's super cool , I would love to have $28 million to do that .
Speaker 3Now , all I'm thinking about is that music video by OK Go .
Speaker 2That was such a good music video . It was so good .
Speaker 3And the behind the scenes is really awesome . You should watch it .
Speaker 4You would like it . So no , I would not consider no .
Speaker 1But if you had $28 million , would you do that . Oh , absolutely , yeah , same Heartbeat .
Speaker 4Yeah , no , I don't have any problem . No , I would do that in a second . Actually , funny enough . So my kids , the two youngest , we talked about them . They think I went through training to be an astronaut , like for a while there . They were like well , when are you going to space ? Like when is this happening ? Why don't you just go Brian .
Speaker 1I mean , that's what they're all thinking . Just go to space .
Speaker 3Go rogue , why not Exactly ?
Speaker 4So it's funny because I showed the boys Apollo 13 the other night . So I have a picture of the Apollo 13 movie poster in my office that a friend of mine actually designed , justin Froning . Big shout out to House Bear . And it's funny because they've seen that and we watched the movie and our middle guy he was like , hey , dad , was it your dream to go to space ? And I said , yeah , that would have been awesome . He's like , well , I don't think you should give up on your dream . And I was like , oh , thanks , buddy .
Speaker 4And I texted that to Alex because she wasn't home that night and she was like absolutely not . I said well , mom , you know . He said why did you choose not to ? Why did you give up ? I want to be here with you . And he's like I've got two parents , it's fine . It was like if you die in space , it's fine . We got mom . I was like this went from like a super , like follow your dreams , dad .
Speaker 1To like after you die it's fine . You'll be like an interstellar , like no , no .
Speaker 4Knocking books off the shelf .
Speaker 3Oh my gosh , it's one of my favorite movies .
Speaker 4Oh it's so good , the darndest thing . It makes zero sense . It is , but it's so good it does make zero sense okay .
Speaker 1So Space , I love that good music taste . Apparently I'm also emo . Yes , emo , lord of the Rings , there's a little we're a subgroup , we can jive absolutely yeah , outer space .
Speaker 3You're a Gen .
Speaker 4X , though right what I .
Speaker 2You're a Gen X , though , right , mm-hmm what ?
Speaker 4I mean , you're an early , barely a Gen Xer , yeah .
Speaker 3Barely , you mean a very late Gen Xer . Yeah yeah , Opposite Brian .
Speaker 1Is it ?
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm like a very I am born during that time that everyone talks about that cusp between Gen X and millennial and everyone's like we should be our own . We really should , because there are things with Gen X that I relate to , but I probably relate more to millennial than anything . But yes , you're right , I am over 40 , but that's fine , barely . Barely , barely If that were true , that would be awesome . Talk about my age .
Speaker 1Let's get back more into your business . What you do . Tell us exactly your full service studio . What does that mean ? What all do you do ?
Speaker 4Yeah , so the sales pitch line is that for most businesses it's hard to create consistent video content . Video marketing can be overwhelming right , and so we help you do that the right way by making it very simple . We have a process that's just very repeatable . That way you can stand out in your industry and kind of become a thought leader by using video .
Speaker 1So video podcasting where do you see it ? Because I feel like there's a lot of audio Video is starting to take off .
Speaker 4Do you ?
Speaker 1kind of see that as the future of podcasting .
Speaker 4I think it's just another way to consume that content . So I watch some video podcasts . I listen to audio as well . It just depends on where I'm at . I think having the option is always good , but there are a lot of purists out there that would say video is terrible and you should not . That's not a true podcast and it's not really . You know , it becomes more of a show yeah than an actual true podcast .
Speaker 4So back in the day it was funny because I we started video , so we've only done video . And so way back when it was not the thing to do video , we did it as a marketing thing because it was like , hey , we can repurpose this , we can promote the show . That was before all of that became an actual thing that people do and so what is that ? A very hipster . And we were doing it before . It was cool yes you need to know .
Speaker 4But actually we had several people in the industry because I go to these conferences that were just like don't do video , it's terrible . Like because people weren't doing it right , and then calling it a podcast and so get the audio figured out first , then add . Add the video
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Speaker 4just as like a way to help people consume your content in other ways , because some will read a transcript , some people will read the blog post , some will listen to the audio , some will see the video , some will just watch your social clips yeah , I feel like they know you , and that's okay too .
Speaker 3It's it's just making that connection with an audience yeah , I think that's so point , so important to point out that getting the audio right is the key , the first step . And I think that there's so many people out there that seem afraid , or come across as they're too afraid to try podcasting because of the video element , you know , because it's becoming such a big thing , and well , I can't do a podcast because I don't have the capabilities of doing a video , and it's like that's fine , just do one thing really well , and then , if you can add the video on top of that later down the road , do it . That way . It's really interesting , I think , what's funny about it . This is so terrible what I'm about to say Should you
Speaker 2say it yeah , I'm going to .
Speaker 3I'm totally going to . But I mean back when radio was just such a big place to market and a lot of you know you'd listen to the radio and you'd like love the radio talk show host or the radio host for your favorite you know station . You were listening to music . You didn't ever see them and it was always a joke . And so when I did like video production , our video like production studio when I was in college was next door to the radio and it was always the joke of like the radio guys had a face for radio and it was because they weren't good .
Speaker 3Looking is like the whole like stereotype of like you have a face for radio . Somebody actually recently said that to me .
Speaker 4Oh , that's terrible yeah .
Speaker 3Wow , I was like brutal .
Speaker 3thank you , thank you I don't know what to do with that information but that's okay because we can counter it with the high school student who , when we went and spoke to bentonville west high school students , I had a high school student I think I've told everyone this story now and she tells me she goes . I just really love your vibe . She's like I love how you talk and you just have this great personality and I was like thank you , 15-year-old . I feel so . Seen right now . Anyway , but getting back to I think that there are some people that probably shouldn't do video podcasting .
Speaker 4I'm sorry , I'm sorry .
Speaker 2I think it's true .
Speaker 3But anyway , but it is the direction that it's going , but I think I feel bad for some people because of how we are , just how we are programmed in our society to look at people a certain way , and you hear someone's voice and then you see them on video and you're like oh , like they don't match what I thought okay , you know , there's a term for this and it's my favorite , one of my favorite groups death cab for cutie .
Speaker 1My kids asked me what a death cab , being death cabbed is and I was like , well , it's when you hear something and then when , like , okay , like I'll use . For example , they were listening to Ed Sheeran and then when they saw him , they got death because they thought that he from hearing him , they had this whole image of what he was going to be in their head and he looks nothing like that . I'm not saying good or bad , I'm just saying that they thought from his voice and so , yeah , they got death cap .
Speaker 4I didn't know that was a term . I didn't know that was a thing .
Speaker 1I didn't , until I went way too deep into the band that I like .
Speaker 4What does this mean ?
Speaker 1Anyway , I know we have to wrap , so , okay , I know you host meetups and things like that for creators . How often do you do that ?
Speaker 4Well , it was every month , and then that just burned me out . I became an event promoter and that's not what I wanted to do . So I wanted to connect people and bring people together , so we went back to quarterly , so we'll actually be having it next month .
Speaker 3Awesome .
Speaker 4And so every quarter we're going to just it's open up , it's just there's no agenda , literally just bringing creators together . Or even if you feel like , hey , I want to get into this creator business , what does that look like ? We just have it open to anybody and everybody . It's more networking than anything . So you're not coming to hear somebody give a presentation or hear somebody speak or anything , and so we've gotten some great feedback and so , yeah , we've not done it this year and so it's been one of those a little bit slower to get out , but we've had enough people say you should bring it back , which is really encouraging .
Speaker 1Yeah , you've done a lot of stuff . Didn't you do something with Startup Junkie too ?
Speaker 4Yeah , we've done quite a bit with them . They do amazing events , especially Northwest Arkansas , If you can follow their updates . They have amazing happy hour and networking meetups and panels and all kinds of things .
Speaker 1Awesome , great . What's on your agenda this year ? What is Go Rogue doing ? What are you guys looking forward to ? Yeah ?
Speaker 4So we just changed up our positioning , marketing all that , launched a new website as well , and so the focus it's kind of crazy . Most of our clientele are , like we call it like founder led marketing . So it's getting in front of the camera like the person that owns a company , a C-suite book author , coach , somebody like that . So video podcasting is a part of that . But we also do thought leadership type content . So if you're just looking to boost your LinkedIn content strategy , we can help you with that . We also do like masterclass . So if you're doing an online course , we can film that in our studio and then just brand films and anything related with somebody being in front of a camera .
Speaker 4So we do some animation on the side or just more motion graphic type stuff . But we're not creating animated explainer videos and we're not doing a you know massive TV commercial Like
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Speaker 4I have a lot of friends who are in the industry that I can actually refer to that do that stuff really well . And so we've doubled down on what we're good at , which is video podcasting , thought leadership , putting somebody in front of a camera to help educate and make more of an impact with their content . So I always joke , I'm like we don't want to work with somebody who's buying their second Lamborghini . You know we're like you're not really in that spot . We want to get behind somebody who's trying to make a difference .
Speaker 4And so I have this weird thing . I actually realized this this last week and I'm like I get so bought into our client's vision that I just think of I'm like , oh , I want to help you , I want to do everything I can to like help you get your content , your message out there , whatever it is , because we've got some great clients . But I'm like it's not even an industry . I'm in like a construction industry and I'm like I know nothing about construction , but I'm like you're trying to do good in this industry . How can I help you ?
Speaker 1And so I would say that's true , based on our experience .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , too , in that you buy into your clients , it helps them make someone to come back and work with you .
Speaker 1So tell our listeners where they can find you , your handles , your website .
Speaker 4Yeah , well , I'm back on Instagram .
Speaker 1All right , he's back . Gave it up for Lent . Gave it up for Lent , yep .
Speaker 4It was a flood last night . It's so funny . A couple of my friends I was going through reels and all again I had a bunch of people send me stuff like while I was out too . So I was just like it was bad . I was like it's like the diet coke yeah just consuming , so I drank it yeah , last night , oh yeah . So hey , brian , hey , which is it's kind of like your , what is it ? Your junior high email address ?
Speaker 3it's just like do you still have a yahoo account ?
Speaker 4oh , absolutely , I had a juno account oh my , anybody know what juno was ?
Speaker 1no , but bring my space back . Anyway , go ahead .
Speaker 4Hey , brian , hey , hey , I feel like now we can pin people on our text and so that's like my top eight . Now , like my space , like oh , what's this person doing ?
Speaker 1yeah , or ranking friends ranking friends exactly .
Speaker 4Hey , brian . Hey on instagram . Go rogue studio . We're on instagram as well . You can kind of see some of our work there . Go rogue studiocom that's where our website , so give us some feedback to you on the new it's version one ish . So we're trying to make sure we connect with that specific audience yeah , yeah , thanks for coming on , I know we thank you , digress , but you know what ?
Speaker 3no , I want to get to know Brian .
Speaker 1This is like every conversation with him , though we start talking and we can't stop , because I love when Brian gets into the emo music Lord of the Rings or Stargazing , because I'm like , yeah , those are my yes you're like , you're my people thanks for hanging out with us , danielle .
Speaker 4Oh , you're welcome . Happy to be here .
Speaker 3Happy to represent a different generation . It's all good .
Speaker 1All right , thank you , brian . Thank you , hey . Thanks so much for listening today . If you liked what you heard , please consider subscribing to the podcast so you never miss an episode . You can also follow us on Instagram at People of NWA . Thanks so much .
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