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Al Capone walks in to a bar in Pueblo...
Ever wondered about the food scene in Pueblo, Colorado? This surprise Halloween episode will take you on a scrumptious journey to the most beloved local restaurants, and immerse you in lively debates over the best margaritas in town. Get ready to hear us argue about our childhood favorites like Shamrock, the delectable cake margarita from Tacos Fuego and the notoriously strong Jorge’s margaritas.
Does a city's dark past intrigue you? We unravel the chilling history of the Colorado State Hospital and its puzzling tunnels. Listen in as we reveal tales of mass cemeteries, prison cells, and steam lines leading to the 13th Street women's prison. You'll also get an insight into how prohibition shaped local bars and breweries, and get an introduction to the mafia-themed Geno's Bar.
But it's not all about just food and history. We also delve (no clichés here!) into how notorious mobster Al Capone is tied to Pueblo's past, and explore the landmarks commemorating the city's infamous flood. We even get into a heated argument over which local joint, Do Drop or Angelo's, serves the best pizza. But before we wrap up, we give you a sneak peek into FlightyFowl, a local eatery. Tune in, join the 719 podcast community and get your share of free stickers! This episode is a deep-dive (oops, did we just say that?) into the stories, debates and history that make Pueblo, Colorado, so unique. So buckle up and let's get started!
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Speaker 2:Hashtag truth facts. This is Joe and this is the 7 One Dine podcast and I have to tell you you are in for a treat. This episode was actually recorded.
Speaker 1:This episode was recorded in the past.
Speaker 2:This episode was actually recorded back in August of this year and it, by sheer coincidence and chance, turned into a Halloween podcast.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the funny thing about coincidence is that sometimes they just happen.
Speaker 2:So I have to kind of give you some background as to what took place, as well as some disclaimers, because you're going to hear some things as you listen that are going to make you kind of wonder what's going on in the background. So I'll let you know that everything is fine, 100%. This was a birthday celebration for one of my nephews, with almost my entire family and the screaming you hear in the background. Just know that everybody is fine, everybody is safe and there is absolutely no need to contact the authorities. Moving on Now, as you make your way through this episode, you are going to come to the point where you hear a word and you're going to question whether you actually heard that word or not.
Speaker 2:Have to admit, when I heard it totally hit me sideways. I was so surprised shocked even that I had no idea how to respond initially. Now, speaking of the word, initially, when this subject was initially brought up this topic, I'm going to tell you how loud my family got when we were trying to discuss this initially. Squago, I'm convinced that we have someone in our family who's trying to keep the truth from getting out. All right, will you say 719?
Speaker 3:719?.
Speaker 2:No 719.
Speaker 3:719. Yes, all right.
Speaker 2:So tell me about Pueblo, Like what's your favorite restaurant in Pueblo?
Speaker 3:That's hard, probably Shamrock.
Speaker 2:Shamrock. Is that the place we went? Is that the place we went after Shamrock? Oh, yeah, yeah, shamrock. You remember that you?
Speaker 3:were there, right yeah. You guys ordered you couldn't decide between the two, so you ordered both yeah, the meatloaf and the fish and chips. That would have to be one of my favorite Milsoff. Oh no, tacos, I'm a liar. Tacos Fuego is taking the top. Somebody asked if you had that last week.
Speaker 4:Tacos.
Speaker 3:Fuego 100% is taking my top.
Speaker 2:Tacos Fuego.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Tacos Fuego.
Speaker 2:SQUAGO, fuego, fuego, fuego. That means the opposite of cold.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Gotcha. So why Shamrock? And I love that place Probably memory.
Speaker 3:It's just childhood. I like it. I've been there since I was little.
Speaker 2:So what are you like? 20 years, 15 years?
Speaker 3:Probably yeah.
Speaker 2:A little more than that. Is it been the same owners the whole time? Do you know?
Speaker 3:I have no idea.
Speaker 2:I don't know anything about the owners.
Speaker 3:I'm assuming so who's that Shamrock?
Speaker 4:owners.
Speaker 3:Shamrock Same yeah, never would have known. But come on, nachos. I've never been to nachos. What I have not? You grew up going to nachos, we went to Rojas, no.
Speaker 4:I don't remember nachos enough to tell you.
Speaker 3:I have not gone to nachos in a time in which I have a memory to know anything about it, the best margaritas no.
Speaker 4:No what are the best margaritas.
Speaker 3:Oh, what are the best margaritas Right now? Tacos Fuego has the cake. For me, you haven't had them. If not those, then Jorge's, all the way, the Presidente from Jorge's, number one aside from, but they are never open, so I never get it. So it's always Tacos Fuego, skuego, but the Presidente is like number one margarita of all time.
Speaker 2:Who's that Thanks?
Speaker 3:Margarita From Jorge's. It's a different restaurant.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, it's your favorite and it's the.
Speaker 3:Presidente. It's pretty much just a traditional margarita, but it's amazing Right here.
Speaker 2:No, when I go to restaurants and stuff and I judge, I call it the bagel theory, the bagel test, and I'm being dead serious. When I go into, like a bagel shop and I get their plain bagel, I can tell how good of a bagel shop it is just by their plain bagel, because if they can do that perfectly, then I know everything else. So, like you're saying, that's just an old fashioned margarita, not one of these with an upside down doseki stuck in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't eat some of the fancy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, just a regular plain, not plain original margarita, do you?
Speaker 3:need to go crazy and add sangria and psychosome. Yeah, just a margarita sign.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like. Why is this blue and why is there a fish in it, matt? What about you? What's the best? Margarita, down in Pueblo, horses.
Speaker 4:Horses Got your. Okay, yeah, all these.
Speaker 3:You have two of them and you're done. One already has you, like, close to being on your ass. Three is like three. You're not doing, you're incapacitated. Three and they cut.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:They won't let you go past. They are so strong.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But they're so good.
Speaker 2:But that's a smart restaurant.
Speaker 3:They're also huge. It is a huge margarita.
Speaker 2:Do you have to pick it up with both hands? Yes, I'm sure your dad doesn't yeah with his big sausage.
Speaker 3:You just slide it towards you For the third one. You don't pick it up.
Speaker 4:I've never made it past.
Speaker 2:I could see your dad. I've never made it past one and a half.
Speaker 3:I shared the second one with somebody else because that was not happening.
Speaker 4:I made it through two once when I first moved in to the house, and I left my car there and walked to their house.
Speaker 3:One is too much to drive with.
Speaker 2:They get to pick your tequila, or do they just use it? I think it's a combination.
Speaker 3:It's like you got your tequila in there. What?
Speaker 4:I put it in there and it's really good.
Speaker 3:It is a strong margarita.
Speaker 4:They have their margarita mix.
Speaker 3:It's house made homemade. 20 dollars for one 20 dollars for one, but it's not good, it is enough to where you don't need a second one.
Speaker 1:If you go for two then you're going to get drunk.
Speaker 3:Yes, you get one, you go there to be drunk.
Speaker 2:What about breakfast?
Speaker 4:Oh, that's hard. Taco stop has the best burrito.
Speaker 3:Taco stop for a burrito, for sure, but breakfast breakfast, no, like breakfast burrito.
Speaker 4:I love that breakfast, that's a place on 24th and Elizabeth.
Speaker 3:Oh, betty's, the sausage breakfast from the links. That's good too. I love how our breakfast is just burritos. What burrito place is our favorite? I can't think of a normal breakfast place.
Speaker 1:It's pretty boring.
Speaker 3:It's not very good.
Speaker 4:There used to be one in the west.
Speaker 3:The one with the rooster. I love that one. I can't think of Romero's online. I don't know that one. Oh, I've never had Romero's breakfast, I've had their slopper, and that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's a Romero's. We'll give that a try for breakfast. So, I'm going to have a whole section Because I know from my travels to Pueblo obviously limited between the two of you that there's the slopper battle and I understand. I've read about it. I've read about it.
Speaker 2:I haven't experienced the voting, but I love how down in Pueblo we have the best of the springs. Up here the Gazette does it. Sometimes it feels like a popularity contest, like one year. I'm not going to say it, but a chain pizza place was named the best pizza in Colorado Springs and I'm like no, there's never be a chain. So, I understand the slopper battle, how serious people take those sloppers, and I've only been to, I've only had one, and that's Is it Coors Gray or Gray Coors? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Coors, coors.
Speaker 2:Gray.
Speaker 3:I've only ever called it Coors. I don't know which one comes first. I know Gray is in there somewhere. I've always, just only ever, called it.
Speaker 2:Coors, so I've looked at that one. So who has the best Sunset? Okay, so that's the three I had.
Speaker 3:I say I love Sunset, and then Romero's is a close second, though I really, really liked Romero's.
Speaker 4:So when it comes to the slopper and bubble, if you look at Gray's or Star Bar, they are East of the Arkansas River. So the local person from Buffalo guy like me would say that's the new Mexico-style show. New Mexican style show. You go West of the Arkansas River, you're going to go and get the old Mexico-style slopper Sunset. You're going to have more tomato here. It's going to be red and he says green. Okay, which is the green chili that I already made. Yeah, that color is like red and color and you're going to have a lot of stuff the old world style like on this one.
Speaker 4:So, you get down on the other side of the river now you're gonna get into a green chili that's green Like what you get up there. It's freeze Gotcha. Okay, you can't touch the green chili that we cheeker up with, and I think it blows the green green chili water, in my opinion. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Also sunset. I don't like sunsets. No, I love sunsets. I don't like Coors very much. It just tastes different.
Speaker 4:It's not you don't have the tomato.
Speaker 3:I don't have the. It's not the kind of chili that I like.
Speaker 4:Gotcha okay. Now Star Wars, just like Greys, where Romero's is, just like sunset, Sunset, yeah.
Speaker 3:So I really love Romero's because Romero's is a farm, it's the Romero's farm, so they have all of their green. Chili is fresh grown and then cooked and served at their restaurant.
Speaker 2:Okay, got there, very nice.
Speaker 3:So it's all right there and it's just so good, gotcha. So that's.
Speaker 2:Romero's, Romero's how.
Speaker 3:Cause it's the farm.
Speaker 2:I'm taking this super, super, super seriously, so I read a lot More than I ever thought I would ever read about how important the sloppers are in Pueblo. I've only been to Coors, but it's funny that the three that I picked to pull pictures of were Coors, which I know. That big Coors gray, you know, on the side Star bar looks like an old, short New York style building.
Speaker 3:And then, sunset looks like. It almost looks like a church where you want to get in the front there but.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so sunset when I was young. This is how long sunset's been around. When I was a kid, sunset was about the size of the hamburger stand. Okay, up here, it was just a little tiny, so cool. It's all it was. And the served burgers to go. And you basically and basically you got your burger and you took it home Cause there was no place to sit.
Speaker 3:And now they added to it about so they're going to sit six weeks in or the week done after that, but same owner same family my entire life.
Speaker 4:That's great. You just finally made it to a restaurant.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Yeah, I've done a lot of reading about both Pueblo and Canyon City. And just to learn the history of the area, the people, the food. That kind of sets the tone down.
Speaker 3:So it is the biggest thing with both of the the Canyon and Pueblo food is the thing.
Speaker 4:There's something else about Pueblo that people don't think that we have a Mexican food. Right Right, pueblo's a huge mafia town, yeah, so I tell you too what's the name of this town.
Speaker 2:Hold on, say that a little bit louder. It's a huge. What Mafia town, mafia town, yes, mafia, mafia is yeah. Like the mafia of some Carliners.
Speaker 3:Yes, like the, yeah, like sleeping with the fishes. Yes, exactly, exactly Sleeping with the fishes.
Speaker 4:The underground railroad is huge. Speak easy.
Speaker 2:And you'll go to.
Speaker 4:Geno's bar down the hill.
Speaker 1:You'll find the underground railroad. It's all sealed off.
Speaker 4:When I was a kid you could go to the underground railroad and lock the tunnels from bar to bar, four bars down to the main.
Speaker 1:What's that tall building down the hill? Thatcher, thatcher building, thatcher building Down to the Thatcher building All through the underground railroad. That's where the media is because they don't want people to see it.
Speaker 2:It's just doing prohibition. Okay, yeah, right. So you had told me about Geno's and said that they had sealed up their entrance.
Speaker 4:Is there anywhere else in Pueblo? Really, to my knowledge, it's all sealed.
Speaker 2:I gotta find someone who knows a secret underground railroad, yeah for this morning they're pretty sealed. I bet I could find someone.
Speaker 4:I don't know, hey. So there's one, two, three, four pieces left. You just left two and invited seven people, so maybe you should share with more friends.
Speaker 2:I would like to see how many miles, you think it? Is Just keep going, I'm sure. Okay, that's all it's at dude. Yes, sir.
Speaker 3:How many miles here, alex? I know for sure they go from. See, I have a seventh ab was that seventh and main street?
Speaker 4:Okay, to the Thatcher building which is on second and greenwood, so that's at least six blocks, and I've heard tell that they go all the way down to Grays. Okay, I'm sure that they have a lot of people who are not in the same building as me.
Speaker 4:I'm sure that there's a tunnel over over to what was the favorite, which is about 10 blocks away. Okay, yeah, they're pretty integrated in there. Now we've got to. There's other tunnels in public, also at the, at the Colorado State Hospital, that are still open, that I have personally been in my adult life. Every building at the state hospital, at the what At the state hospital down there Okay To travel, you know for at least. But those tunnels were originally built to get the insane travel one building to another without making them not outside, just oh, got you. Okay, no risk of escape At that place, though If you do a little research on that you'll find out, you have to be sure.
Speaker 4:When I this was like 2002 or three I had some work down there in Pueblo. We had to put fiber in it and I had to go through this whole safety class and they told us about how they found cemeteries one, two and four, which were all three mass cemeteries from the late 1800, early 1900s. 250 bucks per per grate, per mass grate, wow. The reason that they taught us about is we were digging on the on the property, sure, and so there's still. Obviously you're not gonna skip number three. So at that time they still hadn't found mass cemetery number three.
Speaker 4:So when you go down into tunnels, they're huge, they're big enough. You drive two food service carts a passage. You know they're big tunnels In some spots down by the prison, scary little tunnels. But you get into a bigger area. There's these doors about every 150 feet and they have little holes drilled across the door and a slot underneath that hole. And the criminally insane they had medication for them. So what they would do is they would just take them down into the tunnels and throw them in these 30 by 30 cells that little window about 20 feet up off the ground so they could get some light.
Speaker 4:And they just feed them once or twice a day and when they died they'd go into a mass cemetery, so that's kind of like a potter's field, it's just they put them there.
Speaker 4:No headstone, no no, no, no memory of them at all, Just they're gone. They're convoiling and saying nobody cared about them. They were just done. And if you fucked up when you went down there and tried to escape under the sets of stairs from ground floor of the facility, over the stairs, this is all there to this day On how you get in there. You wanna try it, you can't, but that's where the prison cells were, and so if they fucked up, did something wrong, they just got taken to the cell, the door closed and you go, stay in there for a few days, take a calm down.
Speaker 4:That's how they medicate it.
Speaker 2:How has Pueblo nut turned this into a moneymaker, like that Park up in Denver where you can go and spend the night in that cemetery and because it's still an active, insane asylum and prison. See, that just sounds like a moneymaker to me.
Speaker 4:But yeah, that place is nuts. Now you get down around 13th street. If you ever go down to Pueblo dead of winter snowstorm, drive down 17th Street as soon as you get to the state hospitals property. You'll see all the grassy areas. You're going to see a line that goes across the road that there is no snow. It's just like snow just doesn't go there. Stop on that line and you look and you'll see the doghouse on one end, the doghouse on the other and that is the underground tunnel right there, because the steam lines that feed the 13th Street late women's prison are fed from the state hospital. So that tunnel, like in the summertime it's probably 140 degrees. It's miserable working down there. I've done it personally so in wintertime nothing freezes, so you can actually see the trail. Once you identify that, you'll start seeing all the doghouses everywhere on the state hospitals grounds and you can, from above down, draw the lines to where those underground tunnels are.
Speaker 3:And like I said, that's to this day. You go down there this winter and fight them Very easy.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's kind of a creepy part about Pueblo.
Speaker 2:Going back to prohibition, do you know, was any alcohol taken out of Pueblo like shipped to other cities, or was it just all local?
Speaker 4:I don't know. I know that the what the hell is the name of that bar.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I have a cheat on the bar. Oh, that's a call, right I don't know what the fuck.
Speaker 4:I know there's a brewery on the east side that was there, dirty Bro, which was before Little Mitchell, and they were there for so many years. I'm sure that shit was deep on it. We didn't have that huge railroad rail station Down town, all the feet through the Union Depot down there, which I'm sure the tunnels were down there. So I bet Absolutely the way them off here is Absolutely.
Speaker 4:I told you first, if you go down to Geno's by what? Down to Geno's Bar, Squag them. I haven't been there in a decade, but a decade ago. You go down to Geno's Bar. There's a corner booth. It's in the lock-in, it's the corner opposite of the bar and 10, 15 years ago there were still pictures on the wall of mafia dudes laying their dead with what they call Italian no tag. That's where you cut their throat and pull their tongue out and pull their neck. And there was actually photos I saw myself on the walls of that bar with mafia dudes who died from Italian get-in-the-boat-tie in that bar.
Speaker 4:So if you go, upstairs in that bar Okay, because my brother's, brother's wife's sister owned a bar for Geno's for a while and you go upstairs there's like six apartments that were off of back in the 20s and 30s. So you go inside, they'd go upstairs with a lady and they went out 15 years ago. Like you said, those were still furnished by 30s and 40s era. They just go off and it's just the way it was. I don't know if they refurbished it or anything nowadays, but back again in my 20s and early 30s, that's what I was seeing. If you knew somebody and could get upstairs and see the old brothel, really Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:I think there's another brothel in Pugla, on the north side. It's right next to what Strawberry Fields now a pot shop. Right next to it you'll see a long, skinny strip building and to this day for sure, if you go to the front door of that building, you will still see the little panel that was a slider window. So they would open it up, oh right, and ask you what you're there for or whatever. And then you'd go in. It's like a four-year area All closed off, with a set of stairs out in the out, and then we'd have the ladies go line up on the stairs and pick your lady and take her back to a room, and so that building is still there. As far as I know, it has not been around.
Speaker 2:So I'll ask you first, then I'll ask Savannah. So if I go down to Geno's or another place down there, or I just ask the regular person that I can tell has lived, you know, in Pueblo for a majority of their life, and I start asking about mafia ties or the mafia history is what I would say. Am I going to get the I don't want to talk about it type thing, or are people, do they? I don't want to say, embrace that history, but are they willing to talk about it?
Speaker 4:Absolutely, I would say go out to the farms. Go out to somewhere like Musso's, which is all the way out at 36 Lane, by County High School, while lunchtime or in the morning, and find the old farmers they're the boys who will tell you the stories Like the legit farmers, correct, like Musso's, the family members, the descendants of them. Or go to Gitanos, out on the lanes. That's another Italian restaurant, another Italian family. Been there. You know they're the descendants of mafia related families in Pueblo. Those are the ones you were talking to, for sure, musso's or the Gitanos to get the mafia history, the mafia history. But it's there, I guarantee it, there's no stories about it.
Speaker 2:Savannah, have you, has anyone talked to you about the mafia stuff?
Speaker 3:We learned about it in school.
Speaker 2:Really. So it's that, so it's legit. Not that I didn't believe you guys, but it's legit that big.
Speaker 3:They didn't talk about it in depth but they did talk about during prohibition in Pueblo and like with the underground, Like we learned about it in middle school.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:Like it's not some, like I didn't learn about it in depth and like everything about it, but we definitely learned about the mafia scene and like how they were like bootlegging and everything going on with the underground and how they had all the tunnels, and then we learned how they were closed. Like all of them were shut down and closed off. But yeah, it was just like a normal topic that we had in school in here.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, so we're um.
Speaker 3:So I would think about I would think almost everybody knows about it I went to a different middle school. I went to the charter school so we might have had a different curriculum. So I don't know what normal middle school is taught, because we would spend at my middle school we went on a whole, like it was a whole, like few weeks. So we would we spent like a few weeks in history class learning about all the history of downtown Pueblo, and I don't remember all of it but yeah, we had, we learned all about it. We also learned, like about the huge flood and everything that was impacted by that. Like there's monuments in downtown Pueblo that'll show you like where the flood line was at. They have little plaques at where the water had gone up to On the memorial hall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just reading this article and I'm going to reach out to this Steve Henson to talk to him. But it says at one time Pueblo, not Denver, was the headquarters of the mob in Colorado. So I was going to ask if they were connected anywhere like Chicago and New York, but it sounds like this was their own.
Speaker 4:They were connected to Chicago.
Speaker 2:To the Chicago. Okay, they were.
Speaker 4:Correct. In fact, when me and Nicole were in Vegas, we went to the Mahmoud Museum and it talks about what's his name on. We mauled him Capone, yeah, I'll Capone. Capone, his ties to the Denver in the Mahmoud Museum in Las Vegas. It's in that museum, yeah, so it's not just like local folk tellets.
Speaker 2:It's like a bunch of high school kids that got together, like we can form a band. No, let's form a mob.
Speaker 3:No, this is like coffee, it's like a huge history point. Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 4:And a lot of people don't even think it's the kid.
Speaker 3:I would have never known if they taught us and didn't teach us at school.
Speaker 2:But the fact that they did that, you know.
Speaker 3:And I think I remember them teaching us that Pueblo was connected to Al Capone. It was a full topic we talked about one week.
Speaker 2:Wow, and everybody just kind of like talked about it. Like here's a history of Pueblo.
Speaker 3:It's just the normal history of it. I never thought of it as something that's not normal you can hold somebody.
Speaker 2:That's just. I don't want to say it's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's amazing yeah.
Speaker 2:And, like everybody down there, just knows it and understands it and huh.
Speaker 3:I don't know if everybody knows.
Speaker 2:Well, what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:is, I feel like it should be.
Speaker 2:Like, if students are there or long time, what are they? Puebloans, pueblonians, puebloans, squagas, but everybody who's been there while just knows this is part of their. And was it just prohibition stuff or no?
Speaker 4:in fact that article that I just showed you, it goes back up and said in the 70s oh, wow. When I was in high school, I dated a guy named Luan, called his dad G.
Speaker 2:Hold on, you dated a who.
Speaker 4:A Luan Carlito Ran. Luan Carlito, who's Gino, who's the name of the car? Gino Carlito gets her own car. Her dad's Gino Carlito. He was had ties with him off here for the Chicago mafia for sure, and was a wrestling coach at a county house, which is why he went to the county and he asked anybody the roof sales or the autonomous or any of the Italian families out there about the Carlito family. They'll fill you right in, really, on their ties and definitely deep ties for sure.
Speaker 2:So if I go down to Gino's with you, like we talked about, and I go in there and say, tell me about your name, so to speak, is he going to be like so this is how deep mafia this is how long the go to ties are.
Speaker 4:Gino's downtown is no longer owned by Gino Carlito. He sold it years and years ago with the coffee house that you can't change in there if he was bought. So Gino's is no longer owned by the family. Okay, but it is part of Pueblo's history and it's on their historic landmarks or historic sites. So you cannot change the name of Gino's, in fact, marguerite. What's Marguerite's last name? Evan, sure, evan, even, even, marguerite, even.
Speaker 4:And her husband bought it in early 2000's and it became Marguerite's at TLG's but the sign above the bar to this day was Gino's sign from the Thibaults like period in the color station and you know what?
Speaker 3:Wait, this is over often. Cross street from Cunha's.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Gino's by Taco Bell. But it sounds to me like making that agreeing to that concession. I mean, why would you want to change the name?
Speaker 4:with all that history Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wowzers, alright, savannah, who has the best burger down there?
Speaker 3:Burger, bingo Burger, bingo Burger, for sure.
Speaker 2:Dingle Burger.
Speaker 3:Bingo Burger Squeego.
Speaker 2:Bingo Burger. I've been there. Okay, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3:Bingo Burger for sure.
Speaker 2:Although Dingle Burger is a pretty funny name. But Bingo Burgers, bingo, bingo.
Speaker 3:Your favorite pizza down there. Now you're starting a debate because it's a tie. My gut always tells me to do drop.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:But I can only do drop like once every few months, whereas like Angelo's or yeah, angelo's I can eat all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like I would probably say Angelo's, because it's like Angelo's Burger, angelo's Pizza, pizza. Oh, come on. Yes, do drop is like the best, but I can't eat. Do drop every day, I can't eat any of it. I can't eat any of it every day, but I can eat Angelo's more and it has more options.
Speaker 4:Pizza joint on another Tweet Evans or.
Speaker 3:I don't know Pepperoni's I am I am, that's good pizza.
Speaker 4:I am, that's good pizza.
Speaker 2:I do like.
Speaker 3:It's between those three. For me it is. I am's Angelo's, and do drop for sure.
Speaker 2:And I understand what you're saying about do drop it's. If you're in the mood for pizza, yeah, and I'm a big spend local guy. Like, if I'm in the mood for pizza most, I just want to say most a lot of pizza places will cure that yeah, but if I'm in the mood for, dewdrop you yeah, yeah but I also understand. Dewdrop is like you're not gonna come in from mowing the lawn and raking the leaves and drink a Guinness, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like dewdrop is the thing where you have to want it.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like you can go to Angelo's or I am's any day of the week where you just want your pizza.
Speaker 4:Here's a picture of the tunnels Very cool. Scroll down some of these other pictures.
Speaker 2:And why does he Like I said they're all blocked off nowadays.
Speaker 4:Why's?
Speaker 2:a guy got all these bicycles in there. You can click on them. See this? This is a cool picture. I don't know when it was taken and oh, there it is A CWA state project February something 10th, and then it's not a. It's not a. I can see that it starts with a one. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:It's nothing recent.
Speaker 2:Yeah nothing. What does this say? No persons admitted to this, something it's hard to read yeah. I can get the no persons admitted to this and Bella, something, something. Oh, here's a look at this right down here. No person admitted to this. I'll find a better picture. Looks like I'm gonna have to spend a day like at the Pueblo library. Yeah, talking to like a librarian and being like hey. The Pueblo Museum might have some information on it too, the Pueblo Museum, and then we're going to Vegas.
Speaker 4:The Pueblo Library has a lot like to go to a land branch or not land branch?
Speaker 4:I was flipping a house and I went up in the attic and actually I had to cut into the attic and then sealed off and these two boxes fell out. So me and Alex, father and I started digging through it and it was a bunch of love letters from the state hospital. He was in charge of CFI and I think there was still many toys that were so much power. And I found out that his employee was having his daughter and had a fucking committee to stay in the hospital and I found all the letters and letters ended in him telling her goodbye because he was going to take his life and he was dying Because the guy who was in the room still had a lot of soul to go with. So we took all the letters and got a cigarette rolling machine and high school diploma.
Speaker 2:His. He's scared from the steel move back in the 20s.
Speaker 4:Coins were interest to the Ferris wheel. What's the lake on the south side? It's my old house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know you're talking about the Ferris wheel. I cannot do this thing. Anyway, there's a leak over there. There was coins for the Ferris wheel that they moved to City Park. I just got out of the Minniqua Lake before the fire. So anyway, I took it all to the library. They were going to display what they could that didn't have personal information. Oh gotcha, I know that they have that there in some of those places, and what branch Savannah did you say you need to go?
Speaker 3:Rawlings.
Speaker 2:Rawlings Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I know Colorado Springs has a bunch of history, but it's it's very different because Preblo, when I was working down there with restaurants and marketing and advertising, it's very blue collar and very and what I mean by that is when I was down there I realized I didn't realize, I came to understand. I know I was informed that people there are very, very loyal and some people will just tell me I go here because it's the best and they're not even a mention anywhere else, because I come here, because this is where I've come. You know there's people down there have their cup of coffee and their eggs and bacon and toast and they get it every day for the past 30 years.
Speaker 4:The city diner.
Speaker 2:The city diner was called the city diner.
Speaker 4:That's where all the old people are, exactly what you just said, and I go for a restaurant with a bar twice as long as my house. Individuals every 20 or 30 morning. It's just a whole, whole menu, acting with the drinks in your coffee, sure. And I thought there was a meal right in that place. There was a flutter. There was a strong flutter. I don't know what it was. I think it was a real excursion. It was just horrible and that place was. I thought there were people in the right.
Speaker 4:Really just take to the streets, Flares and yeah, it was as bad as the Columbus Day riots that happened every year in the park it was up there with that that shit.
Speaker 2:Why they closed? Just because of the fire and the flood. I remember the fire and the flood.
Speaker 4:I don't remember which one. Yeah, they just closed it and it really opened up and now it's been torn down as something else, rebuilt where it was. I remember going down there for 99 cents taking eggs. That's just where you went. And then you go down to the city diner and everyone just goes to the city diner.
Speaker 2:That's why it makes sense.
Speaker 4:It's been closed for a long time.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So now I want to find somebody who I bet I could you know, tell me about the city diner.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, absolutely the other people you know, even people my age.
Speaker 2:And how old are you? 62? No, I'm 45. I do that. The only one here that's older than me is Jeff.
Speaker 4:Bastard. Well, they tore down for a parking lot. Oh, but he knows all about bedding rice. Wow, what are you? Rice on this rice and rice structure.
Speaker 2:What else does he own? Yeah, he owns a city diner too. I appreciate it. I know we'll talk about it more as I get down there and I'll let you know when I'm coming down there. So, man, will you say seven one dine a few different times, Like different ways? What was it again?
Speaker 3:Seven one dine. Seven one dine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Seven one dine.
Speaker 2:Seven one dine.
Speaker 3:Seven one dine. Yes perfect.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Hashtag truth facts. This was perfect and this was awesome. Big thanks to my niece, savannah, and my brother-in-law, matt, for giving me this introduction to Pueblo. Actually, thanks for opening my eyes to a Pueblo Not only that I've never seen, but I never knew I should have been looking for in the first place. I promise more to come. This is going to be, I can imagine, an epic series of seven one dine, so obviously stay tuned for more. Before I bring this episode to a close, I do want to say that I normally don't say where I'm headed next, but I'm so excited to be returning to this location.
Speaker 1:We're heading back to the flightyfowl.
Speaker 2:Okay, thank you, evelyn, for stealing my thunder. Yes, we are headed back to the flightyfowl Now. I have bad news, good news and good news. The bad news is Eli told me that Mariah won't be there, but the good news is I'm still going to show up. I'm still going to get wings. And the other good news is if Mariah isn't there, then I have to go back again, and that's right. I'm going to have wings again. Already knew what I was going to get until I looked at their menu. Eli changed it again and so I don't know what I'm going to do. Only thing I do know for sure is I'm going to get that PB jammin'. If you want to know where flightyfowl is going to be and see the updates and changes and stuff and things to their menu, feel free to visit them at flightyfowlcom.
Speaker 2:Come on out tomorrow, brayden Park in Wolf Ranch, tell you what if you come out and you see me and you say hi, I'll give you a free, no charge to you. 719 sticker, as always to the community. That is the 719,. I can't thank you enough Until next time.
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