The Prince of Darkness: Remembering Ozzy Osbourne

Mike and Tom pay tribute to the legendary Ozzy Osbourne, reflecting on his extraordinary journey from Black Sabbath pioneer to solo superstar and cultural icon. They explore the musical evolution, personal struggles, and unforgettable legacy of the Prince of Darkness who defied expectations and transformed heavy metal.

• From working-class Birmingham to pioneering heavy metal with Black Sabbath in the late 1960s
• The creation of landmark albums like Black Sabbath, Paranoid, and Master of Reality that defined the metal genre
• Ozzy's remarkable comeback after being fired from Black Sabbath, launching an even more successful solo career
• The crucial partnership with Randy Rhoads and later guitarists Jake E Lee and Zakk Wylde
• How Sharon Osbourne's management and support helped transform Ozzy's career and life
• The infamous bat and dove incidents that contributed to Ozzy's wild reputation
• Ozzy's humanization through The Osbournes reality show, introducing him to new generations
• His battle with Parkinson's disease and determination to perform despite health challenges
• The emotional final performance at the Black Sabbath tribute concert shortly before his death
• Personal reflections on how Ozzy's music served as the soundtrack to Mike and Tom's lives

Transcript

Tribute to Ozzy Osbourne

Speaker 1 0:19

this week on the mt alternative podcast, mike and Tom pay tribute to the legendary Prince of Darkness himself, ozzy Osbourne, who passed away on July 22nd 2025. From his groundbreaking days with Black Sabbath to his wild solo career and, yes, the bat incident will come up we're diving deep into the chaos, the genius and the music that made Ozzy an icon. We'll break down his rise from working-class Birmingham to rock royalty, the most influential albums Paranoid, blizzard of Oz and beyond, his legacy in both metal and pop culture and, of course, some of the bizarre, hilarious and heartfelt moments that defined his career. So grab your eyeliner, crank up the volume and join us as we remember the madman who redefined heavy metal and somehow survived it all longer than anyone expected. Available now on Deepcast FM, deezer FM, buzzsprout, amazon Music, iheart, spotify and, as always, on mtalpodcom.

Speaker 2 1:41

Hey.

Speaker 3 1:41

Tom, hey, mike, what's up?

Speaker 2 1:43

What's going on, man?

Speaker 3 1:45

Not a lot.

Speaker 2 1:45

A little special podcast for us today, bud, yeah, very special. Yeah, everybody knows we lost Ozzy Osbourne this past week. Bad Right after that great little concert. Back to the beginning, isn't that something? It's just totally strange how that happened. Man, it's almost like Ozzy knew it was like his goodbye to his fans.

Speaker 3 2:07

Yeah, it was like a tribute to them from a man who needed a tribute.

Speaker 2 2:14

And he got it. Well, the whole, you know the whole band Black Sabbath, I mean. Pretty soon none of those guys are going to be around, they all have their health problems. Oh, right, right, right, I found out more of that when that happened. But yeah, that's just when I got home and you had called me and said you heard about Ozzy and I said don't even tell me. I'm like shit. I went and looked on Facebook.

Speaker 3 2:36

I was looking for stuff that it was fake.

Speaker 2 2:39

Yeah, I was kind of hoping you were wrong. I knew you weren't, but.

Speaker 3 2:43

But yeah, it was a Well, we mentioned it. It was like as big as Elvis was back in the 70s. I mean it's one of those it was huge.

Speaker 2 2:55

You know he goes. It's like Michael Jackson, michael Jackson yeah he was huge.

Speaker 3 2:58

Same, thing, yeah, same thing.

Speaker 2 3:05

I mean, we can say that a lot, but it left an impact on a lot of different people, Right? But yeah, so this is going to be Tom and I's tribute to Ozzy, just going over some of the history and doing our music thing we were supposed to do in 1979.

Speaker 3 3:19

This is going to be an attempt to give tribute to a man who was a tribute to himself the best we can.

Speaker 2 3:26

He left impacts on me, left impacts on Tom.

Speaker 3 3:30

It doesn't matter which Black Sabbath or Ozzy either, or whatever you get into, ozzy went through so much. He went through so much personally.

Speaker 2 3:42

More himself. A lot of it put on himself. Sure it was, but look how he turned out. You know what sucks though. You start cutting down, you start quitting things and you get in a quad accident, yeah, and it fucks you up. He had that spine surgery, but anyways it did. To start off, just give a quick little brief thing about Ozzy. He was born John Michael.

Speaker 2 4:07

Osborne on December 3, 1948, in Birmingham, england. Ozzy grew up in a working-class neighborhood, the son of a toolmaker and factory worker. He struggled in school, was diagnosed with dyslexia later in life and served brief jail time for burglary as a teenager. Experience that gave him a new focus in music. You know it's funny, paul McCartney. When he met Paul McCartney, paul McCartney mentioned oh yeah, I remember that you had no gloves and they get your finger pressed or something stupid.

Speaker 3 4:29

Yeah, something silly.

Speaker 2 4:30

Kind of messed. You know, not a good criminal, ozzy, no, but hey, he turned himself around.

Speaker 3 4:36

you know he was. Yeah, he had a good heart he.

Speaker 2 4:41

It's like how does one come start? John Michael Osborne I guess you take that from Osborne, aussie.

Speaker 3 4:49

Yeah, that would be yeah.

Ozzy's Iconic Solo Career

Speaker 2 4:51

That's a cool ass name though. Aussie, I mean, think of it. You just say Aussie. Everybody knows who Aussie is, unless you're trying to talk to chat, gpt or YouTube and you say Aussie and they put Aussie. They didn't ask for Australian stuff. Yeah, yeah, but anyways, moving on, moving on, moving on up. Not that one, that's not the one we're doing. No, no, all right, let's see.

Speaker 2 5:18

The Black Sabbath is actually the birth of heavy metal. Black Sabbath started in 1968. Blew my mind when I found that out Exactly, and you know, even at the time. Pause, oh, we're sorry about that, little technical difficulties, but yeah, birthed in the late 1960s, ozzy teamed up with Tony Iommi, giza Butler and Bill Ward to form a blues-influenced rock band that would become Black Sabbath. Their 1970 debut album, black Sabbath, introduced a darker, heavier sound that critics hated but fans adored. It followed up with classics like Paranoid in 1970, masters of Reality in 71, sabbath, bloody Sabbath in 73, and we'll get into the rest of the stuff later. But as far as let's see their first album, black Sabbath, tom Right, we're too young. I mean, I'm going to admit I didn't listen to Black.

Speaker 2 6:10

Sabbath, when 71, 72.

Speaker 3 6:12

My wife was born in 68. Okay, well, there you go.

Speaker 2 6:17

I didn't start getting into out until probably 78, 79. Right, right After listening to, of course, Van Halen, Boston and all that, you start listening to different music. Yeah, you get a little and then you hear Black Sabbath and Iron man always kind of freaked me out.

Speaker 1 6:35

That was on the Paranoid album.

Speaker 2 6:36

You know when you first heard that.

Speaker 3 6:39

I am sorry.

Speaker 3 6:41

Well, the thing I remember about that song was when I was huge into wrestling oh yeah, I don't even remember which wrestler it was but it'd come on and you knew he was coming out there whooping somebody's ass because it was Iron man, you know, but knew he was coming out there whoop somebody's ass because I was iron man, you know, but that was where I was introduced to that. But uh, yeah, and you know it was funny that you said something about they started out bluesy and everything. Uh, I did find, after digging up the they had and I don't want to butcher this name and I'm not sure of the pronunciation, but they started with Boca Talk Blues Band was what they started.

Speaker 2 7:24

See, that one I never knew. The next one, Earth, I knew.

Speaker 3 7:27

Right, and here was a funny thing about Earth.

Speaker 2 7:31

Wind and Fire.

Speaker 3 7:32

No, there was another band called Earth at the same time and they were showing up at Ozzy's thinking that they were at the other one. Okay, and then they had to switch that, and then later on in the little talk I'll tell you how they came up with Black Sabbath later, but that was kind of a new little thing I learned.

Speaker 2 7:54

I just want to skip back a little bit. When Ozzy was arrested for burglary, he couldn't pay the fine. I bet they'll say that she spent six weeks in Winston Green Prison.

Speaker 3 8:03

Winston Green Prison. Yeah, that would be a bad prison. It sounds like Winston Green.

Speaker 2 8:09

A little bit, a little bit scary.

Speaker 3 8:11

Yeah, I spent some Winston Green time, nope.

Speaker 2 8:14

Yeah, but yeah, the albums. Black Sabbath, I think, is basically one song that I really actually NIB. That's the one I liked off of that with the bass started off at the beginning. Sounds like Deezer just noodling around on his bass.

Speaker 2 8:32

Sounds great that was a great song, I believe probably Iron man, though I know that was the second album. That's probably when I started. Oh, who's this band? You know listening to certain songs. Now I will admit there's a lot of old Black Sabbath stuff, older, that I didn't really get into, right, you know certain songs, but there's songs when I did listen, like Children of the Grave, right, that song. To me that's a Black Sabbath song that I, freaking to this day, still love the song.

Speaker 3 9:02

Keep it rolling.

Speaker 2 9:04

You know you figure NIB Black Sabbath was another song off the Black Sabbath, those two songs I like. Then going to Paranoid yeah, paranoid was a good song, war Pigs, paranoid, iron man. Now here's a funny thing with me Tom Paranoid and Iron man aren't really my favorite. I don't mind the songs, I like the songs, I don't hate them. But those really weren't my favorite Black Sabbath songs as far as that album, electric, funeral Hand of Doom, fairies, wear Boots, those songs stuck out more to me off that album.

Speaker 3 9:37

I never knew that.

Speaker 2 9:38

You never knew what.

Speaker 3 9:39

That fairies wore boots.

Speaker 2 9:41

Yeah, and you've got to believe. Oh, saw it with my own two eyes.

Speaker 3 9:45

Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 9:48

But you probably don't have any real songs on those two albums besides Iron man and Paranoid.

Speaker 3 9:55

Yeah, paranoid, and Iron man, of course you know, but like the 70s things we're doing, they didn't come until later on. Right, well, same with me, that's why. So yeah, they were the things that set me off on Ozzy.

Speaker 2 10:11

Cool, let's see Masters of Reality. You had two songs I really liked, off that Sweet Leap and that's Children of the Grave. Yeah, now, I'll be honest, I kind of drifted from that stuff after. I think I was listening to Ted Nugent and other things, but the Black Sabbath albums, that didn't catch me. What caught me was, and all of a sudden, ozzy going solo when you heard of him getting fired from the band you heard him being fired you're like, wow, black Sabbath, and to me it was nothing. But then Ozzy came out with his solo.

Speaker 3 10:45

Yeah, and he had straightened up and become a different person and a different singer, and you could tell.

Speaker 2 10:53

Well, it wasn't as dark anymore.

Speaker 3 10:56

It was more to that 80s vibe of Brock it was, and it was brilliant and he's kind of one that started it with Randy Rhoads as his guitarist.

The Bat Incident and Controversial Moments

Speaker 2 11:04

Wow, yeah, you know, one of the greatest guitarists ever On bass, yeah, but so his first solo Blizzard of Oz Right Great album, I mean that of Oz Right Great album, I mean that kicked our crazy train. Now see, at that time, 1980, that's me this is coming out where I am into this music now. Yep, yep, I'm all up for it. Yep.

Speaker 3 11:29

I'm with you here.

Speaker 2 11:30

You know, mr Crowley, I Don't Know great songs off that album. And I Don't Know Great songs off that album and Randy Rhodes, classically trained guitarist.

Speaker 3 11:39

We actually did a podcast at one point about Aleister Crowley, did we not?

Speaker 2 11:43

We never finished that one.

Speaker 3 11:45

Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, we just started it. I got you and we were digging into a lot of research. Yeah, and it got really deep. That was deep. We were wondering how many podcasts we'd have to do.

Speaker 2 11:55

Yeah, that was deep, there was a lot to talk about.

Speaker 3 11:56

But Ozzy obviously understood what Aleister Crowley was all about and he made a song about it and it was a great song.

Speaker 2 12:03

It was an excellent song it was an excellent song. How many of those iconic pictures with Randy Rhoades on Ozzy's shoulders? Yeah, man, or him picking them up.

Speaker 3 12:14

That's awesome.

Speaker 2 12:14

But yeah, that's when Ozzy started becoming bigger than life to me. Yeah, and all of a sudden, wow, look at.

Speaker 3 12:20

Ozzy. Well, you know, with every great person comes a great sidekick, and Ozzy and Randy were that Exactly.

Speaker 2 12:29

Just like Mike and Tom. Mike and Tom and Pip and Squeak. Yeah yeah, we can add them in too. All right, after going down to the next album, excuse me, Diary of a Madman. Another great album, Flying High Again Over the Mountain Diary of a Madman.

Speaker 3 12:54

There was all kinds of stuff Ozzy you just can't pick. I mean it's hard to just say, oh, I like the, well, I like the, they're all great. And a lot of good Ozzy tunes, not to mention the music Not just the lyrics, but the music that these guys put together.

Speaker 2 13:12

You had great musicians, you had good musicianship, but you had, like I said, randy Rhodes, classically trained Ozzy. I mean the pick-up Ozzy always has picked out great guitarists, exactly Always. And on that note, unfortunately, that's where Devo came in. That's where after that album and touring Randy Rhodes, that killed Ozzy pretty much.

Speaker 3 13:34

That was probably a downfall.

Speaker 2 13:36

I mean, that was pretty stupid of the pilot, Whatever he was doing. I don't know. I don't claim to know.

Speaker 3 13:42

All we know is it crashed.

Speaker 2 13:43

Shit happened, it crashed. Whatever the circumstances, it sucked. Ozzy went through a downfall. They had a couple different guitarists. I mean Brad Gittles from Night Ranger filled in on a tour.

Speaker 3 13:56

Nobody remembers that.

Speaker 2 13:57

really, that's some heavy shoes to fill Randy Rhoads. And now you've got to finish a tour and I'm sure that killed Ozzy too, but I hear Ozzy wasn't appreciating too much of anybody, just wanted to get the tour over with Right. And then, after looking for a guitarist another one of my favorite guitarists after Randy Rhoads Jakey Lee. Jakey Lee, yeah, and you had Park at the Moon. That's what, jakey, and those are big shoes. You've got to figure for someone to come in and fill Randy Rhoads' shoes. I guess Ozzy. What I hear I don't know how true it is it's stories I read that he had resentment towards Jakey Lee. Sometimes treat him like shit because you're not Randy.

Speaker 3 14:36

Well see, and that's what I was getting ready to talk about I had read somewhere where they had a lot of stuff going on and Ozzy treated him like shit.

Speaker 2 14:46

And years later Ozzy was kind of a dick, and then years later and you don't understand, it was morning.

Speaker 3 14:49

He came back and he said hey look, I treated you like crap and I'm sorry, but you know he still never got the notoriety.

Speaker 2 14:58

I mean he wrote people forget. He wrote Bark at the Moon. Yeah, Jakey Lee, you don't see that anywhere. I'm not saying Ozzy didn't contribute, Don't get me wrong. But then you had Ultimate Sin, which there was another Jakey Lee album.

Speaker 2 15:12

Jakey Lee I mean not album, but he wrote a lot of those songs, right. He resurrected Ozzy's career. People don't want and I don't want to get on this. Ozzy was bad. Jake E Lee was one Right. But to have Jake E Lee at that time, that was the best thing that could have happened for Ozzy.

Speaker 3 15:26

But you know what?

Speaker 2 15:27

Because that resurrected his career after Randy Rhoads passed.

Speaker 3 15:31

That was, he knew who he needed and he was right there with him and they had a connection Right and he pulled the people. Like you said earlier, Ozzy knew how to pull people together A guitarist or whatever. He knew he did pick a guitarist. Yeah, he could pick. He was a good judgment of character, evidently.

Speaker 2 15:55

My next one, you know. And then of course you had Zach Wilde come in. Which respect for Zach Wilde too, yeah.

Speaker 3 16:03

I didn't know him as much I didn't know him as much.

Speaker 2 16:06

Yeah, new Yorker, and you still get that New Yorker thing going on. But anyways, let's just give a little rundown of everything. We'll put it into context here. Just a little quick rundown of what we discussed so far. Black Sabbath 1969, 1979. Those are the Aussie years, let's see. Originally called Earth, they renamed the horror film. Black Sabbath Pioneered heavy metal, dark themes, downtune guitar and a thick sound. Yeah, obviously Iconic albums. Black Sabbath, paranoid, master Reality. It's funny those are the only three albums I really liked after that. They weren't bad, it's just nothing sticks out to me. Right, ozzy was fired in 1979 due to substance abuse and internal tension. Okay, solo career 1980 to 90 on Ozzy.

Speaker 2 16:57

This is where it comes in for me and this is more where it kicks in for me too, tom. I'm not gonna lie, because you figure at 78, 79 when I started getting into Black Sabbath, then bam.

Speaker 3 17:07

Ozzy, solo he's gone.

Speaker 2 17:08

he's not there anymore.

Sharon's Impact on Ozzy's Life

Speaker 3 17:09

Yeah, it's like liking a football team and the quarterback leaves. Where the hell did he go?

Speaker 2 17:16

Debuted solo with Blizzard of Oz, featuring Randy Rhoads and Landmark Songs Crazy Train, mr Crowley, flying High. Again, randy Rhoads we just talked tragically died in a plane crash in 82. Again, we talked about deeply affected Ozzy. He continued releasing albums from the 80s Diary of a Madman, bark at the Moon and the Ultimate Sin. Yeah, let's see, we'll go into his personal life and then we'll talk about other shit. Let's see, he married Sharon in 1982. She became his manager and his life partner with her. Dad was a manager too, he was.

Speaker 3 17:51

He was a manager and that's how he met her yeah that's right.

Speaker 2 17:54

And then Sharon she was working for them. Basically, when he went solo, Sharon took him over.

Speaker 3 18:00

Exactly that was cool.

Speaker 2 18:01

They had three children together Amy, kelly and Jack, of course famous for extreme onstage antics See biting the head off a dove and that. But she didn't do a dove.

Speaker 2 18:13

No, we'll talk about that we know that We'll talk about that story in a minute. And, of course, ozzy had a long time struggles with drugs and alcohol multiple rehab stints. But getting back to the dub, someone threw a rubber bat on stage. No, someone threw a live bat on stage. Ozzy thought it was a rubber bat Right, and decided I'm going to bite this head off. Yeah, that's a real bat there, ozzy, and had to go get rabies shots.

Speaker 3 18:38

Yes, he went through a tremendous amount of shots.

Speaker 2 18:41

Oopsie, yeah, that's it Now the CBS executives meeting, where Ozzy and his manager are all there with the doves that were supposed to fly.

Speaker 3 18:50

They were going to fly him out.

Speaker 2 18:52

yes, what did Ozzy do, Tom?

Speaker 3 18:54

He ripped the head right off of one Not one but two but he enjoyed the reaction so well. So he did the second one, let's do another one and see if we get something that was the end of that meeting? Well, yes, it was a very impactful meeting.

Speaker 2 19:08

Look at Ozzy. That's when Ozzy was pretty effed up.

Speaker 3 19:11

If I would have been there. Can I have the breast and the heart please? You're not going to eat that, are you? Oh, that's right, tom. Tom loves them doves, dove hunting. Anyway, bye.

Speaker 2 19:23

Yep, but I saw I did see Ozzy Motley Crue opened them. I think I want to see the end of 82 and the beginning of 83. So that's when I didn't even know what the hell a Motley Crue was either. So that's when I didn't even know what the hell a Motley Crue was either.

Speaker 1 19:35

Right, I heard.

Speaker 2 19:36

Livewire, but that's another story. So I saw them. I saw that tour. That was at the Orphan in Boston. The next time I saw Ozzy was Ultimate Sin, and same guitarist, jake Ely, is the first time I saw him and Iron Maiden opened up for him at the Worcester Centrum. So those are the least I got to see Ozzy. Well, there's a lot of bands that I wish I would have saw and I haven't either.

Speaker 3 20:04

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 20:05

I'll see them someday. I'll see them.

Speaker 3 20:07

You know how that goes.

Speaker 2 20:09

Or they broke up or the guy's dead or the band or whatever. Yeah, but I'm happy I got to see those two shows anyway. Exactly, yeah, I can honestly say I've seen Ozzy. So are there any? You said you didn't start really listening to Ozzy. So are there any you said you didn't start really listening to Ozzy till?

Speaker 3 20:30

Until the 80s. Yeah, until the 80s.

Speaker 2 20:33

Now, obviously he started in 80, 81, so when did you start listening? Basically how much into the 80s it was how long into the 80s.

Speaker 3 20:41

Well, it actually had to be more into the 90s. Well, it actually had to be more into the 90s.

Speaker 3 20:47

Really, tom, because my son I'm trying to remember there's been a lot of fog and a lot of extracurricular activities that has hindered my path to thinking of old stuff, but I want to say my son was probably four or five years old, so we had to be. He was born in 88, so he had to be 92-ish. When Mama, I'm Coming Home, oh shit, tom, I mean I'm like, wow, I remember this guy from back in the day and he's coming back and this is an awesome song, remember back in the day.

Speaker 3 21:31

Yeah, back in the day. But this is when I'm like, wow, it's Ozzy Osbourne. He has come through some shit smelling like a rose. Everybody loves him still.

Speaker 2 21:42

So would you say 92?

Speaker 3 21:43

Probably about that.

Speaker 2 21:44

Okay, so that album I believe came out in 91. Okay.

Speaker 3 21:47

So that's probably about right then, right, right, right, and just the amount of.

Speaker 2 21:52

And I believe that was no More Tears album?

Speaker 3 21:54

Yes, it was, and which was. Another good song. Oh, absolutely, I do like Crazy Train and you know all the Iron man and every song that they play on the radio and everything. I didn't get into it enough to where I have songs that I didn't know, like some of the ones you've heard. No shame in that.

Speaker 2 22:15

Like I said, you grew up even though you're only four or five years younger than me. It's a different era of where you grew up is another thing.

Speaker 3 22:23

But here's the important thing for this is when I was watching wrestling and the wrestler came out to Iron man, I'm thinking here's a guy who was that wrestler.

Speaker 2 22:36

It doesn't matter. Let's talk through this for ourselves.

Ozzy's Legacy and Final Performances

Speaker 3 22:39

But here's the thing. What got me was here's a man that was taken away from one of the hottest bands and whatever was going on in that point because of his downfall and then kicked off another career that was just as big or bigger than what he had left and lost after being a different person, and with that we can thank Sharon for that, even though she's shrewd as hell, and kind of mean to a lot of the musicians that play with Ozzy.

Speaker 2 23:14

If it wasn't for Sharon, there'd be no Ozzy. There would be no Ozzy.

Speaker 3 23:17

I'm going to say it goes both ways and everybody thinks that Sharon was so evil and everything. But you know what? Nothing Sharon ever did was about money. If you look back, it was all about fighting for Ozzy.

Speaker 2 23:31

And I get that, but in the way she screwed over a lot of good musicians.

Speaker 3 23:35

She did, but again another story for another time I don't want to shit all over that. Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 23:40

That's on me.

Speaker 3 23:41

I don't want to do that, but it is Ozzy and that was part of his life and she's looking out for her number one man. So that's why we're bringing it up because it was part of that and it's just Ozzy. But the point was, is what a hero. He came out on the other side. So many people loved him. The day he passed away, mike, you couldn't even get on Facebook without running. Well, no, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 24:05

The day you told me and I went out after in the porch on my little porch, time started. I got on Facebook and I was just slammed. Not just people, we know Exactly Musicians, actors, everybody, all kinds of people, everybody. It was just the lives he touched. You know, it's true, I watched a little thing on Pierce Morgan and Gene Simmons and Gene Simmons you know Gene Simmons always full of himself. It was a great interview. Gene Simmons had nothing but praise. He even wished. He said during the interview he's like, yeah, if you haven't met Ozzy, he's like your next door neighbor, he's friendly, he goes. I know myself. This is he goes, I know myself. This is from Gene Simmons. Probably not an exact quote, but I know how I am into myself. I've seen videos of myself and I cringe sometimes when I hear myself say the things I say.

Speaker 3 24:58

Is that really me?

Speaker 2 24:59

And then you got Ozzy, who's just a friendly guy, just a normal guy Himself. That's it. It's just normal and it's like you said. You know he goes. Yeah, prince of Darkness, ozzy loved everybody and it's true, on stage, ozzy, I look, think about it how many times.

Speaker 3 25:14

Even the videos.

Speaker 2 25:20

You can see Ozzy, you watch the concerts. It's crazy. I love you, you know. Yeah, we are going to miss you, ozzy. There's never going to be another Ozzy, that's for sure. And then, Dorsha did. Let's see. Let's get into the next thing now. Sure, let's see. Remember the Osbourne show when that came on? Tell me you didn't watch that. Now you might have gotten into that. Tom, you liked those reality shows.

Speaker 3 25:43

Unfortunately I didn't watch that particular one. Oh, you didn't. No, you know which Osborne? I remember the show was the one where Jack would show these videos about paranormal.

Speaker 2 25:59

Oh, that's another one. You have to bring that up too. Yeah, see, those are the ones I got into, but that's the ones with Sharon's with them and everything.

Speaker 3 26:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, or you know, you brought up yeah, see, those are the ones I got into, but that's the ones with Sharons with them and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they sit on a couch and sofa, or you know you brought up the other one, the Ozzy show, or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 26:14

Well, Jack and Ozzy went on trips too. Oh yeah, they used to do that show where they traveled to different places, ozzy and Jack and give reviews about places.

Speaker 3 26:21

yeah.

Speaker 2 26:22

But the Osborne was like.

Speaker 3 26:23

Sharon, he hated those damn dogs. He puts a little black lace.

Speaker 2 26:29

He's a terrorist. That's good shit, man, but you see what that's.

Speaker 3 26:35

Ozzy that was his life.

Speaker 2 26:37

There's no make believe. Maybe other family members Sharon, maybe, I don't want to say maybe could be acting up for the cameras. Ozzy was Ozzy. What you seen on that show was Ozzy, there was no acting.

Speaker 3 26:53

That's what it ought to be dude, this is real. This is me.

Speaker 2 26:56

I ain't nobody Great man. Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 27:01

I'm an Ozzy.

Speaker 2 27:08

I've got to admit too, this feels kind of very helpful talking about this because you went through this whole week kind of like shit, man, you're at work, you can talk to people, but you're at work, you can't really get into it like this.

Speaker 3 27:18

It's very therapeutic to get this out and reminiscing about all the good things.

Speaker 2 27:22

It's therapeutic. We can say what Barney Fife said too it means the same things, it's therapeutic. Okay, we can say what Barney Fife said too. It means the same thing Therapeutic. But it's true, it's almost like a family member. I don't want to say it's like a family member because it's not, but it's a part. We grew up with Ozzy. It's your heritage. We grew up with Ozzy. Yes, ozzy was a part of our life.

Speaker 3 27:43

Exactly. It's just going to be like when I don't know when our favorite actor dies or our favorite.

Speaker 2 27:51

Well, even like I was a big fan of Friends when Matthew Perry passed away Exactly, and I'm not comparing it to no, not at all. But it's like a kick in the gut.

Speaker 3 28:02

Yeah, we'd find out he's not going to be around anymore.

Speaker 2 28:05

Before that happened, did I pay any mind to Matthew Perry? No, but you watch the show for so long you're invested.

Speaker 3 28:12

And I was like holy crap man your memory. Here's something that's kind of connecting. I'm a huge Denver Broncos fan. Everybody knows Demarius Thomas bam. When he left, that was a huge blow.

Speaker 2 28:27

You know what? It didn't really matter in the long scheme there.

Speaker 3 28:30

No, it really didn't.

Speaker 2 28:31

But still, it was just like wow.

Speaker 3 28:35

No doubt, let's see.

Speaker 2 28:38

What else? Oh, don't forget, also 1996, Ozzy started OzFest.

Speaker 3 28:45

Oh yeah, OzFest, and I guess that went on until 2018. Yep, yeah.

Speaker 2 28:52

Yeah, that's another thing about the Osbournes, just a little side note here Humanized Ozzy for new generations, which he did because it's like I said, it was more like a sitcom than a freaking reality show.

Speaker 3 29:03

Yeah, because he didn't go along with what they writ.

Speaker 2 29:07

And his Oz Fest, that touring metal festival, helped launch many bands, many bands, a lot of bands. Getting back to his solo stuff, though, I'd like to talk about that, yeah, because there's a lot of good shit. Let's see, there's Blizzard of Oz, Diary of a Madman. Then we went to, of course, jp Lee Bark at the Moon.

Speaker 1 29:29

The Ultimate Sin.

Speaker 2 29:30

The Wicked was in 88. Then you had no More Tears. Zach Wild, that was great, great, great stuff. No More Tears. You had Mama, I'm Coming Home. The Road to Nowhere is another great song. Yeah, then we had the Road to Nowhere is another great song yeah.

Speaker 3 29:46

Then we had Road to Nowhere leads to me.

Speaker 2 29:48

Osmosis 1995. Perry Mason I love that song.

Speaker 3 29:52

That is a good song.

Speaker 2 29:53

That is a good song.

Speaker 3 29:54

It is a good song.

Speaker 2 29:55

See you on the Other Side. Okay, I Just Want you, is okay? 2001, down to Earth. Notable songs Get Me Through. Dreamer Another good song Dreamer Another good song. You know who helped write that song. A little side note to that Blew my mind. I just found this out Nick Jones from Foreigner, the guitarist for Foreigner, the head guy in Foreigner. He helped Ozzy write that song.

Speaker 3 30:17

No, let's see.

Speaker 2 30:21

Black Rain came out in 2007. Now I'm going to admit these songs. I don't know I. Black Rain came out in 2007. Now I'm going to admit these songs. I don't know. I Don't Want to Stop Not Going Away. Lay your World on Me. Those are the notable songs.

Speaker 3 30:31

You don't know, I Don't Want to Stop.

Speaker 2 30:33

No.

Speaker 3 30:33

Yeah, you've heard it. I Don't Want to Stop.

Speaker 2 30:37

Oh, yes, okay, I Don't Want to Stop, okay, okay. Well, that's the only one from that album time, yeah, okay, 2010. Scream, notable songs. Let Me Hear you Scream. I do know that one Life Won't Wait. I don't know that one. And Digging Me Down, I do know that one, 2020. Oh shit, there's a 10-year gap in between. There, my friend, there's a lot. Ordinary man was the album Notable songs Under the Graveyard, which I've heard. Ordinary man featuring Elton John Did not know that. I had no clue that either.

Speaker 1 31:08

And Straight to Hell in 2022.

Speaker 2 31:13

Patient no 9. I knew that song Nope Degregation Rules. That's Tony Iommi, so I guess Tony Iommi was featured on it, and then one of those days featured Eric Clapton, right. So yeah, that sucks, man. Yeah, there was all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I just I got to give credit again. As much as I saved a lot of things amongst my friends about Sharon, she did save Ozzy's life.

Speaker 3 31:47

Yeah.

Speaker 2 31:49

Even all the bullshit he put Sharon through, she stuck with him Absolutely. Could you imagine being the life he put her through?

Speaker 3 31:58

The life he lived.

Speaker 2 32:00

You know people are like what the fuck, sharon, are you an idiot? You know they're saying that and she's like I'm standing by my man. Now whether people want to say, well, yeah, because that's her gravy train or whatever, I believe she really loved Ozzy. I do believe that Absolutely. And like you said, she wanted what was best for Ozzy.

Speaker 3 32:15

We knew that when we watched that video of the interview with these little chicks in the bikinis and everything, and that one chick said something to Sharon about her husband being oh, when she got up and coughed and she was looking for a drink and she threw the drink on and went after her. Yeah, they had to drag them both apart. I remember that she would fight for her man.

Speaker 2 32:39

It doesn't matter, gene Simmons said it best Sharon's a lioness and she will Gene Simmons.

Speaker 3 32:46

This interview with Piers.

Speaker 2 32:47

Morgan people, you've got to listen to it. It's a different side of Gene Simmons that totally blew me away. Whether he was doing it, for I don't think so I think he was very sincere when he was talking. I could hear it in his voice and that's why I'm shocked by it. But again, ozzy being Ozzy, that's, he impacted people. He wasn't a dick. No, not at all to no. Again, ozzy being Ozzy, he impacted people, he wasn't a dick no not at all.

Speaker 3 33:10

To no one. I mean even the children that you see on that video that did that crazy train thing with all the xylophones and the drums and the percussions. He was there, his first words out of his mouth was the percussions. He was there and he's like. His first words out of his mouth was this is brilliant. They were 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, and they were, you know, but there were some as young as probably 5 or 6 years old.

Speaker 2 33:39

You know who you're getting credit to.

Speaker 3 33:40

Brilliant the music teacher on that one Absolutely, because she was over there on the side. It'd be like me. I said if I'm going to Jack Black in that movie. If I'm going to do this, it's going to be my way School of Rock. Exactly what a great movie Getting back to Crazy Train.

Speaker 2 33:55

The Warning did it? The band the Warning that I'll be talking about another episode of my concert I went to. But when they were very little they did a cover of Crazy Train. They were on Ellen actually, yeah, and that's the cover they did. Yeah, crazy Train, they kicked ass on it. You know what I mean. Awesome For kids as young as they were.

Speaker 3 34:12

But yeah, ozzy made an impact on a lot of people. Yes, was influenced by Ozzy. It was just unreal, unreal All right now.

Speaker 2 34:19

The sad part, oh boy, his late career and his health. Parkinson's diagnosis publicly revealed in 2020. He had symptoms since 2003, which I never realized because of the way he always acted.

Speaker 3 34:34

He was you see this TV show and stuff.

Speaker 2 34:37

Yeah, because he was moving, but it's just I figured okay, the drugs you know, and I'm sure maybe that didn't help. His final solo albums were Ordinary man in 2020 with Elton John slash Post Malone. If you remember that video on an award show he's sitting in a chair. Post Malone comes out and sings.

Speaker 2 34:56

I do remember that I don't particularly care for the song because I kind of like frustrated that Ozzy was just sitting in a chair like sing a couple, right, but anyways, you know, hey, that shows the crossover that Ozzy had with different genres of music.

Speaker 3 35:11

And I would like to just put this in I've heard a couple people say that this tribute they had last couple weeks ago, that Ozzy was lip syncing some parts Fuck y'all.

Speaker 2 35:22

No, now, people, when he was struggling. Yes, Zach Wilde was helping him on certain things. Here's the problem. He did the Black Sabbath songs first. He was supposed to only do a couple. Right, he wanted to do more.

Speaker 3 35:34

That pissed me off when I heard that.

Speaker 2 35:36

Yeah, but you know you can hear and that's why if people actually watch the videos, you can see Zach Wilde. Zach Wilde a lot of times sounds like Ozzy. He has that voice, but let's see. His next one was patient number nine. His last one, 2022,. It featured Eric Clapton, jeff Beck and his old bandmate Tony Iommi. He had multiple surgeries to spinal issues and he canceled most of his live shows after 2019.

Speaker 2 36:04

Again, the spinal issues comes with that four-wheel tipping over on him shit. He retired from touring in 2023 after years of battling health issues. Then we get down. Unfortunately, he passed away. As we said at the beginning, daniel passed away July 22nd at the age of 76. You know, and that sucks because you just again we started off with this. The back to the beginning.

Speaker 3 36:29

Yeah.

Speaker 2 36:29

The Black Sabbath tribute, with Ozzy being there, and even Tony Iommi said that Ozzy did not want to be in that chair.

Speaker 3 36:38

No, not at all.

Speaker 2 36:40

He wanted to get up but he just couldn't do it. You know. So you know what people Screw you. Like Tom said, if you think he's lip-syncing, did he have struggle during some of his songs? Absolutely, look what's happening to the guy. But as far as the lip-syncing, no, he had Zach Wilde helping out on vocals, right, and so what if he had a little trouble singing? Look what he was going through. He stopped taking his medication because he didn't want to be numb for the show he wanted to be him.

Speaker 3 37:06

He wanted to be at his peak Right.

Speaker 2 37:08

He wanted to be Ozzy Ozzy and you can see during those signs how he yes, he had that shake to him, that whatever, but he wanted to get out of that damn seat. Yeah, bad.

Speaker 2 37:19

You can tell, and you know I'm not going to lie, tear up when I talk about it. Sometimes, man, it's just again. We grew up with this. We love you Ozzy. Yeah, we love you Ozzy. There'll never be another Ozzy, we know that. But everybody just hey, we're lucky to have had Ozzy and Black Sabbath and Ozzy's solos for so long. We have a big catalog of songs that we can all look back on and thank God for YouTube as much as YouTube pisses me off at the damn commercials.

Speaker 3 37:54

You can get Ozzy's songs. Thank.

Speaker 2 37:56

God, you can go on there and rehash, relive these moments, because that's Rock and roll, is what it's all about, man. I mean any music is what it's all about. Man. Yeah, I mean, any music is what it's all about.

Speaker 3 38:07

This is the music we have.

Speaker 2 38:08

Daniella from the Warning said music is life, music is passion. You know, it's true. Music is everything, yep. Music knows how you're feeling. But again, tom, my condolences to the Osborne family. Yep.

Speaker 3 38:25

Sorry for everything, sorry for your loss.

Speaker 2 38:28

Made an impact. I just wanted to know how much of an impact Ozzy and Black. Sabbath made in my life, like I said before, the soundtrack of my youth, exactly.

Speaker 3 38:40

As hard as it is to pay tribute to a guy who paid tribute to himself already, it was tough to do this one.

Speaker 2 38:52

No, this is not our normal podcast, but I would like to just. But again I said it's therapeutic.

Reflections and Closing Thoughts

Speaker 3 38:59

It is, and I'd just like to acknowledge that the very first day after this death, you and I came together and it was like we have to do this, and we both were on the same page right off the bat. Everything was falling into place. Unfortunately, we didn't want it to be this way.

Speaker 2 39:21

We didn't like this way. We thought, oh, I hope Ozzie passes, so we can no, no, no, no, no. I think people understand A lot of people. Ozzy passes, so we can no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I think people understand, but I think A lot of people are going through the same thing.

Speaker 3 39:29

Tom, exactly, and that's what makes you and I so unique is that we do have a lot of the same thoughts with different patterns, right?

Speaker 2 39:39

And we both have a passion for music.

Speaker 3 39:41

It's so much different and I love it that that you're on the one side and I'm on another. As far as I say another, I mean, I've got so much of a wide genre. Oh, absolutely, tom, but this thing, you know more about this part hey, it's like the donny marie song.

Speaker 2 40:02

I'm a little he's a little bit country, I'm a little bit rock and roll, and it fits. And as far as music too, with Tom, tom's a lyricist, tom gets the lyrics right off the bat. Me it's always been about the music. I don't hear the lyrics till later. Don't ask me why Lyrics are important. I get it, but it just works between us Exactly I mean you gotta have lyrics. I'm a nerd sometimes, when it comes to certain bands, I dig too deep yeah, and me, I don't dig deep enough probably no, you just like the music and enjoy the music and go with the vibe, and that's.

Speaker 3 40:35

There's nothing wrong with that it just makes me happy when I get into something I have to learn more and more about it. That's, that's just the way it is, but it works for us. But we would like like to thank everybody for listening today and just such a great, great, great thing that Ozzy did for a generation.

Speaker 2 40:57

They brought people together, man or four generations, there was so many.

Speaker 3 41:02

I mean 68 to 2000 and on.

Speaker 2 41:08

Yeah, he went to what 68 to 79, then came back and did another album with Black Sabbath.

Speaker 3 41:15

Yeah, and there was a gap there. But you know, hey, rehab takes a while.

Speaker 2 41:21

Things happen, you know, hey, you have personalities that need to mend.

Speaker 3 41:25

Sometimes, when you get so far from yourself, it takes a while to get back.

Speaker 2 41:29

Being in a band is like a marriage.

Speaker 3 41:32

Oh my God, there's a lot of give and take.

Speaker 2 41:33

You're not the only one. You've got either three members or four other members beside yourself.

Speaker 1 41:39

Five of them.

Speaker 2 41:39

It's just the way it is. Ask the Eagles about that. Yeah, that's another story for another day. Talk about drama.

Speaker 3 41:48

But anyways, folks Tom and.

Speaker 2 41:50

I just wanted to share our experience about Ozzy. This is something we felt we needed to do just for ourselves at least. Anyways, it's a good outlet for us. So we appreciate everybody who's listening and appreciates Ozzy for what he was man you know. On that note, tom, I just want to say long live rock. Yes, rest in peace. Ozzy Yep. Rest in peace.

Speaker 3 42:16

All right, everybody, we're out Yep and thank God for the gift of gab Everybody.

Speaker 2 42:21

God bless Later.

Speaker 1 42:29

And that wraps up this special episode of the MT Alternative Podcast, a tribute to the one and only Ozzy Osbourne. From the raw power of Black Sabbath to the unforgettable solo career that followed, ozzy didn't just leave his mark on rock and metal. He carved out a legacy that defied expectations, broke barriers and inspired generations. Mike and Tom brought the history, the stories and the music to life. But it's Ozzy's voice wild, haunting and unmistakably real that still echoes through it all, whether you remember him from Paranoid Crazy Train or just the way he made you feel like an outsider with a purpose. Tonight we remember Ozzy not just as the Prince of Darkness, but as a legend who lived loud and left it all on the stage. Thanks for listening. You can find this and every episode of the MT Alternative Podcast on Deepcast FM, deezer FM, buzzsprout, amazon Music, iheart, spotify and at mtawdpodcom. Next week, mike and Tom return with a brand new episode, but tonight we raise the horns one last time for Ozzy. This is Daniel. Good night and long live rock. Thank you.