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The MT Alternative Podcast is where music nostalgia meets sarcasm, humor, and the occasional political rant. Mike and Tom revisit the past, argue about the present, and never take themselves too seriously.
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Porch Talk, 1980
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Welcome back to the MT Alternative Podcast. The only show where two grown men, Mike and Tom, can turn a simple chat about 1980s music into a three-hour debate about football, snack foods, and whatever random nonsense escapes their heads this week. Yes, they say they're diving into the music of 1980. But let's be honest, by the halfway point, Tom will be ranting about his fantasy football team. Mike will somehow tie it all back to the warning, and I'll be questioning my career choices. And of course, everyone's favorite pint-sized duo, Hip and Squeak, are here for their segment. Because nothing says, serious musical discussion, like two miniature chaos gremlins with microphones. So buckle up, pour yourself something strong, and let's see how far off topic they get this time. It's the MT Alternative Podcast.
SPEAKER_06MT alternatives on the air with your favorite friends. Hom's got the stories, Mike's got the tons. Roll down the windows and crank up those boom bones. Let's drive the mock and talk to the rocket live.
SPEAKER_05Now I can. I do sound very loud. Are you sucking on the microphone? Not yet. Nope. Oh.
SPEAKER_03Are we supposed to?
SPEAKER_05There we go. There. Talk now. Okay. Okay, that's better.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, unless I don't. No, well, that's even worse. Yikes. Oh, there you go. Wait, wait, wait. A little uh nope, nope, that's perfect.
First Time Recording Outdoors
SPEAKER_05I think that's what uh I haven't said anything yet. Oh. Well, I was waiting. I've been waiting. For a we're not saying that. All right, and welcome back to the MT Alternative Podcast. Here we are out on the porch. We are on the porch. This is the first time. First time doing something on the porch? Like podcasting?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, podcast. It's first podcast. No, we've done things on the porch.
SPEAKER_05What what kind of things? I thought we weren't gonna talk about that.
SPEAKER_03No, not that. Oh, we're not talking about that. The other things. Oh, okay. Like the Oh yeah, those are fun. Those are fun too. The tests. We run tests.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I didn't I don't think I liked that test. No. That that that really wasn't fun. It wasn't? Not particularly for me. Oh, well. But you did promise me that it would set me up for Wienerfest.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'd be ready for it. See, and you uh always gotta prepare. It's like a big marathon. You prepare for it. Well, you don't want to go into Wienerfest raw. You're gonna come out raw.
SPEAKER_05I sure prepared that I need preparation H.
SPEAKER_03Sure I prepared. You preparation H. We have left off.
SPEAKER_05Never again will I believe you. Well, whoever told you to believe me anyway.
SPEAKER_03Hurt so good my ass. No, it didn't. So you enjoyed the music, huh?
SPEAKER_05Tom, I think I heard the first part of the lyrics. Maybe the first few bars of the music and the rest I blacked out.
SPEAKER_03Oh, well, you missed the good stuff then.
SPEAKER_05I I don't think I missed a lot. Uh well, actually, for the way I felt when I woke up.
SPEAKER_03There was a lot missing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So you will not be a uh a supporter of the Wienerfest. No, matter of fact, I would be protesting Wienerfest. Okay. Well, just to let you know, I probably don't want this out. People think I go to Wienerfest.
SPEAKER_05You do go to Wienerfest.
SPEAKER_03No, not really.
SPEAKER_05Then why'd you put me through that that hell?
SPEAKER_03That was just for fun. I was gonna do a trick on you.
SPEAKER_05That wasn't a damn trick. Sure it was. Do you know how hard it was to get you talked into that? Okay, now why do you gotta say hard and get me into it? Why? Why do you gotta put that in the same sentence?
SPEAKER_03Well, so you know how I talk.
SPEAKER_05So, it's a beautiful day out here.
SPEAKER_03We're outside. We are. I didn't notice that.
SPEAKER_05Leaves are starting to fall.
SPEAKER_04All the leaves are brown.
SPEAKER_03And the hummingbirds are drinking. They are? Oh yeah, I see the little dude over there. You see the little dude? Are they here already?
SPEAKER_05That's what the little dude would ride in on in that little hummingbird.
SPEAKER_03He thinks it's a helicopter with a guy named Troy.
SPEAKER_05No one, no one uh said Squeak was bright.
SPEAKER_03They come riding in looking like Timon and Pumba.
SPEAKER_05Feisty, argumentative, yes. Bright, no. Yeah. He he moved. He heard there was accidents that happened within twenty miles of your house.
SPEAKER_03Twelve, I think it was. Whatever it was.
SPEAKER_05And then he so he moved. It's still twelve miles from where you live, dumbass.
SPEAKER_03That's nothing. Let me tell you what he did one time.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03He had this coat that he was gonna send to his cousin.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03And they weighed it before they put it on the the mail to tell him how much it was gonna cost. He said uh it was one of them peacoats and it had them big old heavy buttons on it. Okay. So they told him it was the buttons causing the coat to weigh more. He said if he'd take the buttons off it would help. So he cut the buttons off and put them in the pocket of the coat. How did that make sense? It didn't. Well, they're not on the coat anymore, it costs less. Okay, now they're in the coats. Yeah. Same price. Well, he also he wrote his cousin a letter, and the first line was, I'm gonna write this letter really slow because I know you can't read very good. So he's not the brightest candle in the box. How do you know so much about Squeak? He lives in a hole out there by my house. Oh, he lives out by you. Yeah, in the middle of nowhere. See, but don't, don't, don't, don't, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we gotta back up.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, no. Hear me out.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I don't want to yet.
SPEAKER_04Why are you not giving him a ride in?
SPEAKER_03That's what my I was just saying. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We don't want him to know.
SPEAKER_05But you said you live out by him.
SPEAKER_03I do.
SPEAKER_05And how does he not know you live by him?
SPEAKER_03He does, but I say I go a different direction here. I have things I have to do before I come here. And he doesn't want to wait? No. Oh. He wants to get well helicopters like yeah, helicopter is more his fashion. So So he prefers to be like maybe dropped out of a helicopter once in a while to I don't know if he prefers that, but that ends up ends up happening.
SPEAKER_05All right, interesting.
SPEAKER_03Interesting is how this thing's kicking in already. And it ended. Are you not hearing me?
SPEAKER_05Is this mic on?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's on. Mow.
unknownMow.
SPEAKER_03Well, see, that was funny then. Well, we've already seen that show. We gotta come up with something different.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Meow.
SPEAKER_03All right. No, no, we won't go there. Meow. I my voice is not any better. Ever since you made me hit the high note the other day.
SPEAKER_05Nigel sure laughed his ass off.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he did. I blew a damn vocal cord and he had a good time. How's that happy?
SPEAKER_05He was looking at you like, what the hell's gonna happen?
SPEAKER_03Well, I blew my damn vocal cord out. That's what happened. Now I'm gonna have to have the damn surgery, what's his name had? Steven Tyler.
SPEAKER_05Hmm. Let me think about this. How many did he have? He's had quite a few.
SPEAKER_03On his yeah. I'm not sure. Dr. Oz talked about the one that he had on his vocal cord. It's still not bad for his age. No doubt. Did you hear him hitting that damn notes on that Aussie song he sang? That was pretty cool. My mom coming home was with uh Youngblood.
SPEAKER_05Yes. And Joe Perry was there too. Yeah, let's not forget Joe. Joe Perry. The Toxic Twins.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, as in Joe. Perry Mason.
SPEAKER_05Old Ironsides. I guess we'll be doing a segment about the 80s. Oh, yes, the 80s. Well we'll probably wait a little bit just to see where we're going right now.
Hummingbirds, Squeak, and Side Stories
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because we might end up in the 60s here. Maybe we might end up somewhere, right? TPH. Oh, I would like to give one shout out. New listener, Tennessee.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_03Shout out to uh we'll call her Tennessee.
SPEAKER_05Our listener in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_05Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_03Yes. We do appreciate it. Everyone is a listener. Not a loser, a listener.
SPEAKER_05Now we're still going with our followers being the idiot squad. The idiot squad is still intact. Okay, good. We haven't talked about that in a while.
SPEAKER_03Well, because listen, we work around them all the time. It's self-explanatory.
SPEAKER_05That's true. That's true. That is true. And we don't really know the other people who listen. They kind of say, uh Yeah, maybe you should. Tom's gonna have to turn his cuckoo clock off.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Make a noise. Every time that happens, I get this visual of Elvis popping out.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I think every time you hear that, an angel gets its wings or something.
SPEAKER_03No, that's not really what happens. Mine was the other direction. Oh, damn. I went the other way.
SPEAKER_05Alright, I'm gonna pause this because I gotta go get a beverage.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna test it out.
SPEAKER_05Okay, I'm back for my beverage run. And whatever else I had to do. Did I miss anything?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. What'd you have to do?
SPEAKER_05That's on a need-to-know basis, and you don't need to know.
SPEAKER_03Well, how am I supposed to help you out?
SPEAKER_05Did I miss anything? I don't know. I just want to know if I missed anything out here. Oh, out here? Yeah. Oh. I didn't miss anything inside.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, wait. If you're gonna be so secretive about what happened in there, I'm not telling you what happened the hell out here.
SPEAKER_05All right. I'm gonna take it. I didn't miss anything. Obviously. Yes, you did. No, I think not. Anyways.
SPEAKER_03You know your m neighbor Mark is so much fun to watch. You know something happened.
SPEAKER_05Where? Where is he?
SPEAKER_03Oh, it already happened. Now it's a secret.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay, cool. Right, doing the same stuffy are with. I've probably seen it a million times. Anyways, 1980s. 80s. That's what we're here for this this this week. This wonderful Saturday morning. On the porch. What a bespin day.
SPEAKER_03Watching the hummingbirds. We're just chilling. The sun is out. Does that guy ever leave? Only when the other guy comes and chases him away.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Why? Why are they not hitting this one?
SPEAKER_03Oh, they do. I've been watching them hit both of them.
SPEAKER_05How am I missing this? Am I taking it for granted?
SPEAKER_03I I think you are. You you said I hear so much, you just it's all bland to you. To me, it's beauty.
SPEAKER_05No, no, it's it's still beauty. See? Anyway, we're getting sidetracked. Yeah, I heard them.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_05I heard the little helicopter. I think that was actually squeak coming in.
SPEAKER_03Oh, is it? Oh gosh. I can't wait.
SPEAKER_05So, back to the 80s. We're getting sidetracked, folks. This is gonna be this way. This is our first time on porch time out here. So anybody that knows us knows what to expect. Flipping train wreck.
SPEAKER_03How in the world do they know what to expect when we don't know what to expect?
Vocal Cords, Aerosmith, and 80s Tease
SPEAKER_05I have no idea. But all right, let's get into the 80s. Great year, Tom, for music.
SPEAKER_03Oh, great year for everything.
SPEAKER_05Uh let's see. My first notable from 1980 was ACDC coming out after Bon Scott's death, but Brian Johnson with Back in Black. I think every song on that record was the best. Cassette, H, whatever you had at the time. Exactly. Every song kicked ass. I think ours was a uh And there's a lot of people still bitching, you know, it's not Bon Scott. No, it's not Bon Scott. No, absolutely. I put it the same way as when Ozzy got kicked out of Black Sabbath and Dio came in. It wasn't really the same, but it wasn't bad either. No, it wasn't terrible. I thought uh Heaven and Hell was a great album by Black Sabbath. That was released right after Bon Scott's death, pretty much. Right. And uh it came one of their best-selling albums.
SPEAKER_03Well, no, I mean it was great. Like I said, every track on there rocks. There was yeah, there wasn't a bad uh track on that whole album.
SPEAKER_05Let's see. Other notables, Tom from that era, David Bowie, Scary Monsters. Now, I will admit I like David Bowie, but I didn't get into a lot of David Bowie back at that time.
SPEAKER_03No, not then.
SPEAKER_05I mean, there were certain songs I did I know I knew and I liked, but it just I didn't run out and buy an album. Right. Right. I had friends who had the same, you know, love Bowie, had the C. So I listened to it there. That's how I knew most of the songs that I heard of.
SPEAKER_03Right. And we also have to realize that I'm a few years younger than you are, anyway. So so David Bowie meant something different to me. But you did have older siblings. We did, right.
SPEAKER_05And so I knew one or two, if not many of them, listened to David Bowie. Sure, sure. Yeah. Uh the next one's Talking Heads, you've heard of them, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, talking heads.
SPEAKER_05That remain in the light was a The Clash. Oh. Was it a big fan of The Clash? I was, I didn't. I do like some songs from The Clash. Again, same with David Bowie. I'll put David Bowie above the clash.
SPEAKER_03Oh, right, me too. But what was your favorite clash song?
SPEAKER_05Believe it or not, it's probably gonna be cliches because it's one of the popular songs, but London Calling.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was a good song. That was a good song.
SPEAKER_05I love the music to it. I just like that song. But now here we go. This is when Ozzy put out Blizzard of Oz. Oh, see. That was his solo debut, Tom. I still hadn't. And people going nuts, and you had Randy Rhodes. The death of Randy Rhodes as Alpha. Oh, yeah, that sucked. But at least when you get the Blizzard of Oz uh that came out. Joy Division was another uh, I guess, notable album. Uh, never heard of it. The album's closer, post punk masterpiece, released shortly after Ian Curtis's death. I don't know if Ian Curtis is it. But let's see. Oh, we got a little jet flying over here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there's a fan base going across. Stuff that happens when you're outside popular and people just fly from everywhere trying to take your picture.
Shoutouts and Running Bits
SPEAKER_05All right. Uh let's give a rundown of the hit singles. I'm gonna give a rundown of hit singles, and we're gonna talk about music from the 80s that we liked. Right. Okay, we had Blondie, Call Me. Yeah, you know that one.
SPEAKER_07Call me on the line.
SPEAKER_05All right, Queen, another one bites the dust. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03That was a great album.
SPEAKER_05The game. Uh let's see, Lips, Funky Town. What'd you think of? Funky Town. Pick Floyd, another brick in the wall, technically released on '79 when we talked about it. Right. But it dominated the charts once again in the 80s. Yeah, Michael Jackson, Rock With You. Great song. I think I like Michael Jackson more back then.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_05Than the newer stuff, which isn't bad, but I just like that older style.
SPEAKER_03It's older style, but it's a lot better. I mean, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_05Right. And then, hey, cool in the gang, celebration. Can't go to a wedding or whatever without hearing that song. You're right. Can't help but get up and want a boogie.
unknownGet up.
SPEAKER_05Even if you can't. Oh, that was the stuff. We had John Lennon uh released starting over. And that was shortly before he died.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was. Just like still.
SPEAKER_05See, uh, we'll get into the major music moments, Tom. Speaking of John Lennon's assassination, December 8th, 1980, that's when he was assassinated and shocked the world. I was in, let's see, December 8th. That was just before I got in my car accident. Because it was February of 81 when I got my car accident. Right. And I remember reading, you know, being in the hospital, people bringing me stuff to read and reading all about John Lennon. I think I read a book on the Beatles. I read The Doors Book, No One Here Gets Out Alive. But anyways, I just remember that John Lennon. I just was fascinated by all that stuff, you know, being what 16, 17 years old. Wow. 17 years old. Right. And just saying, you know, wow. I think, yeah, 17 at that time. But yeah, so, anyways, that was that was to me, that was a big event in my life. I don't know about you, him being one of the Beatles. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I I remember my sisters crying, most of all, about this singer that died. Right. And that's about all I can really recall because I wasn't a big Beatles fan. I didn't Right.
SPEAKER_05No, especially at that age, I didn't.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I will I and see, even at a young age, my dad had me introduced to country music. So I was more I had my genre of country as to where the other siblings had all the other ones that I know about. So there was folk, there was rock, there was blues, there was all different kinds of genre from this from the sisters and brothers in front of me. Plenty of Doctor Hook, as we all know. Yeah, well, I I spent a lot of time with that sister, and that was her genre, and that's where I was introduced to that, and that's pretty much all I had.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so it sticks to you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER_05MT was MTV wasn't around yet. It was launched in 81, but video and image were becoming more important. Okay, I guess that's why MTV launched in 81.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_05Uh Heavy Metal New Wave began with Iron Maiden's debut and Judas Priest British Steel. British Steel was a great frickin' album. Judith Steel, yeah. That's when basically Judas Priest kind of switched more from blues rock than they kind of went to that metal.
SPEAKER_03Right. Well, everybody was going to the metal at that point.
SPEAKER_05Well, Judas Priest, I mean, besides Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and I made them were kind of the only other two. Right. You know? We didn't have anything like that really in America at the time. We had some good bands, hard rock bands. But that metal more or less, I think, is more European thing. Well, you know, all these genres of music come from everything different everywhere. Exactly. And that doesn't matter, even if it's metal, it's blues oriented somewhere in there. It's just how it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, everything comes together.
SPEAKER_05Okay, then you had the post punk and new wave explosion with bands like The Cures. I actually like some of the dudes like some of the. Susie in the Banshees, a couple of theirs I like, and Devo. I do like a couple of their tunes too. Now name their catalog, I couldn't. Right, right, right. So Devo. Yeah, so as far as that, now music to me in the 80s, again. Being uh black sac, I mean uh ACDC's Back in Black came out. I think my friend Tim and I just played that and played that over and over. You know, you go through cassettes.
SPEAKER_03It was just everything.
SPEAKER_05It sounded new, which I still like the old AC DC. Right. But I didn't look at it. You know, at first I'll admit when I heard the song, I was like, ah, this guy's not Bon Scott. But then the songs hey, it's just write down basic chord rock and roll. Exactly. But it's freaking awesome.
SPEAKER_03They did a wonderful job with it.
SPEAKER_05It's actually they made a different once Bon Scott was gone, it was a kind of a different sound for ACDC. The same but different if you actually listen to the music lots.
SPEAKER_03Right, right.
SPEAKER_05Lyrically, still kind of the same stuff.
SPEAKER_03It's ACDC. Right. But yeah, what was young Tom doing in 80? Young Tom in 80, I was still very young. I was probably, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Knee high to a grasshopper?
SPEAKER_03I probably didn't even know any grasshoppers back then.
SPEAKER_04No.
Finally: Music of 1980
SPEAKER_03I hadn't met any yet. I was still in the closure at home and watching cartoons and didn't want to really do too much, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_0580s is just 17 years old.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so that would have made me 11, 12, 12 or 30. 12.
SPEAKER_05So, you know, had my license. Matter of fact, uh that like I said, that car accident came. That was 81, February 81, just before. But when we get it to 81, I'll talk about that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Save that for that. Yeah, there you go. But no, 80s to me, great time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and and the later 80s for me is when it all started coming together and making sense. Right. Of course, 86 was my graduating year. So there's a lot of stuff in between now and then.
SPEAKER_05So well, I think we should uh hear the little dude squirming. What you seeing over there?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I I it I saw something. I think you're freaking out. It ended up being a cat, I believe. Oh. Yeah. Creeping up the hill over there. I saw that troubled look in your eyes.
SPEAKER_05Well, that's the You saw a stalker.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, we're out on the porch. I know, I know. This is the first time. Who's that? I I get I get it. Oh, that's the mailman. All right. I'm not used to seeing that.
SPEAKER_05Now that noise is the little dude, so we're gonna let them come in, do their thing, and uh we'll be back right after, folks. All right.
SPEAKER_01Hey, sweet buddy, what's going on this week? Oh, just the same. Okay.
SPEAKER_02This is the happy mushroom.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, nobody never gonna let you wake up with your money.
SPEAKER_02Everybody's a little game. Anybody be nobody.
Hit Singles Roll Call
SPEAKER_01Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'll be shit. This is my big time. So ridiculous.
SPEAKER_02Sorry about this. Maybe better luck next time. Everybody.
SPEAKER_05Oh, those damn little dudes, once again. Well.
SPEAKER_03I can't understand him half the time.
SPEAKER_05Let me turn this fan off. Yeah, shut up, fans. Yeah. Fucking fans. Yeah. Why are they even here?
SPEAKER_03Well, we're outside.
SPEAKER_05Yes, we are. We're still outside. On the porch. On the porch. This is true. Exciting things are happening. Yes. Tom and I just made it get darker. Tom and I. Using mind control.
SPEAKER_03Yes, and cloud seating.
SPEAKER_05No, no, we don't do that. Oh. No, no. Oh, yeah, sorry. That's the government.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, government. I'm not trying to take anything from you. Please don't come and kill me, Hillary. What we're doing is right. Yes, we're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Anyways. This is probably not good. It is. But we'll just keep going. Probably not good. We're just gonna keep rolling, anyways. Probably is good.
SPEAKER_03Uh no. I was thinking. Oh. Out loud? Oh, maybe. Maybe I heard it. I heard it. Speaking of hurting, I heard that thunder.
SPEAKER_05No, there's thunder. Lightning? Well, that's first. Thunder Lightning. That's a then album, live album. Or enlightening.
SPEAKER_03Or hear me out. Which is a song, too. Right.
SPEAKER_05Uh it says Okay, why are you posing on your butt like salada like your band of white while you're talking to me?
Metal, New Wave, and MTV’s Horizon
SPEAKER_03What's up with that? I don't know. I can't figure out what I'm trying to say.
SPEAKER_05Good Lord. And you said let's start recording.
SPEAKER_03And you're gonna thank me later because we did.
SPEAKER_05It's gonna be like exactly.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. But I was telling you something.
SPEAKER_05You were telling me a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03Before you interrupted me.
SPEAKER_05Oh, oh, I interrupted you. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Or something happened. We'll go with that. Thunder and lightning. Oh yeah. Because see, oh, the song.
SPEAKER_05Do I always have to be the captain every week?
SPEAKER_03Aye aye. You don't always have to be. You choose to be.
SPEAKER_05Well, you let me.
SPEAKER_03Great choice.
SPEAKER_05Did you find your thought yet?
SPEAKER_03Yes, because it's uh a song. Thunder's just the noise, boys, lightning does the work. And I don't remember who sang it, but it's a country band. It wasn't out very long. They didn't last very long. Of course not.
SPEAKER_05What about Fire on the Mountain?
SPEAKER_03Run, Boys, Run.
SPEAKER_05Lightning in the Sky.
SPEAKER_03That's a song. Could be.
SPEAKER_05Did we just make up a song? It should be. Okay. I figured it was. I'm not that good to make up a song. I can make up songs. I could make up songs, but they'd be kind of stupid. You know, like owl, weird owl, kind of that way.
SPEAKER_03Those are dumb.
SPEAKER_05Well, some of them are pretty funny. Come on, you can't beat like a surgeon. I'm fat. I'm fat.
SPEAKER_03I'm fat. How about get yourself an egg and beat it?
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's what he says. Egg? Yeah. Oh, I've been listening to that song all wrong all these years. Never mind.
SPEAKER_03Okay. What are you beating over there?
SPEAKER_05Nothing I thought it was. I thought it was something else. Oh, your leg. Anyway. Let's go on. Alright, moving on. Yeah, thank you.
unknownYou're welcome.
SPEAKER_05You don't have to always embarrass me.
unknownNasty.
SPEAKER_05Speaking of nasty. Oh no. No, no. That spot on the on the steps there. Oh, where the bug was? Where that Kawasaki sat down.
SPEAKER_03That was a bug. No, no. No, no, no. And a wet spot. Yes, this is where her. There was a bug. Anyway. This isn't gonna be good. We're gonna have to cut a lot of this out.
SPEAKER_05I got a visual of you.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, nasty. No.
SPEAKER_05I turned around. I said, you go nasty. Okay. So, anyways, moving on once again. We're moving on a lot.
SPEAKER_03We have been moving on a lot.
SPEAKER_05Moving on up. No, that's moving on up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we agree.
SPEAKER_05We're just moving on.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_04Wait, doesn't Kiss have a song called Move On? Move On. That's what she um, anyways.
SPEAKER_03That was the Brady Bunch.
SPEAKER_04No. I think uh go for a walk outside now. Sometimes what was that noise? Huh?
SPEAKER_03Something fell behind me. Oh. We have sound perception. That's what it was. No wonder it sounded like it hit over here. I have earphones on.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sound travels.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, when you have headphones on, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Earphones, headphones, whatever.
SPEAKER_05These are headphones.
SPEAKER_03Are they?
SPEAKER_05Yes. Are they on your head?
SPEAKER_03Uh they're in my ear.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Are they on your head? You're wearing them on your head, correct?
SPEAKER_03My ears.
SPEAKER_05Headphones.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Some people call them titties.
SPEAKER_05You could call it uh you could call it uh ear warmers. You can do that too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but they're not knitted.
SPEAKER_05They don't have to be knitted.
SPEAKER_03They have to be ear warmers most of the time.
SPEAKER_04Your ears aren't warm in these? No.
SPEAKER_05You got some issues. There's no air getting in here. You could wear this outside in the winter and your ears will be warm. Oh, really? Yep. Just unplug it. Huh. I'll bring yours in to work.
SPEAKER_03If you unplug it, it won't work.
Personal Memories of 1980
SPEAKER_05No, you don't need to h hear yourself. You're just gonna protect your ears. No. And you're gonna look stupid. I just want to make a point.
SPEAKER_03Oh, why would you want to look stupid? And you're gonna look stupid. Is that your point?
SPEAKER_05That's my point. I don't have to do that, because you do that sometimes on your own. Oh. But it's funny when someone adds to it. Oh. So you're like Kelly always yelling out for no reason? Tom!
SPEAKER_03Oh. Or he'll walk up behind you on the chair bearing. Ah! I'm like, no.
SPEAKER_05He's never done that to me.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, he does it to me all the time.
SPEAKER_05See? It's you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because he wants to scare me. Why?
SPEAKER_05Because it's you.
SPEAKER_03Well, I wonder why he wants me to feel like I've ran him over. But I'm gonna run him over.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_03And he'll be hurt.
SPEAKER_05Well, you Kelly will be hurt. The size of Kelly, yeah, he'll be hurt for a little bit. He's not gonna go underneath it. He's just gonna hit him. He's gonna go either one way or the other, or you're just gonna push him down the aisle.
SPEAKER_03Or hear me out. All right. They always have them damn doors open without a cage. I could just scoop him right out the door.
SPEAKER_05Alright. I still think that'll Kelly will probably bounce. Yeah, he's a bouncer. And bumbles bounces. Yeah, he's a bouncer. So but you're still gonna lose your job.
SPEAKER_03Really?
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_03This is getting better every day. Alright, there you go. This is already turning out to be a positive story.
SPEAKER_05And bonus, you'll piss Kelly off.
SPEAKER_03That's not a bonus.
SPEAKER_05He'll probably beat your ass. No. So you'll have no job and a broken body. Well no, I I would say Kelly'd be nice and probably wouldn't hit in the face too much.
SPEAKER_03I think he would. I ain't got teeth, motherfucker, neither are you. Bam! See, that's what Kelly thinks.
SPEAKER_05But he does. He doesn't have them all. Yeah, he does. They're screwed in. Okay, he still has them. Right, right. I mean, it's not like he's walking around like Robin with none. I was gonna say no, never mind. I was gonna say something else. Oh. I can't now. Why? Because you ruined it earlier. I already know. I'll explain to you when we're not we're not doing it. See, this is why I'm the captain. I think before I speak. Oh, most times.
SPEAKER_03See, you should have told me that's what we were doing. Thinking before we speak. Here we go with the thing.
SPEAKER_05That's just common knowledge, Tom. Education. It's just common knowledge. Let me think before I speak. That's stupid. Not really. Why is that? Think about it. Think about it. I I do think about it.
SPEAKER_03See? It's dumb. Well, you just told me to think about it. Yeah. But see, when somebody else tells you to think about it, and you do. See, that's the way it's supposed to happen. That's the way it always happens in school. Think this way. Do this.
SPEAKER_05No, I think my way.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_05I'm not telling you to think my way. I'm just telling you to think before you speak.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I I speak before I think.
SPEAKER_05Do you even think?
SPEAKER_03I don't have that button.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Why does it smell like weed?
SPEAKER_04Sorry about that. What the fuck is going on out here?
SPEAKER_03It's the cider you're drinking.
SPEAKER_04It's the c oh.
SPEAKER_05That's not even the song. The cider is the cider. It did get a little darker.
SPEAKER_03But now it seemed to have yeah, mellowed because we're not thinking about it. Oh, I hope we didn't wreck it just now. Yeah, now it's coming again. Right, idiot. See, it's like monsters. Monsters aren't really there until you think about them. Oh my god, now they're here.
SPEAKER_05Oh, there he is now. There's your neighbor. See? We should invite him over for a conversation. People can be introduced to my neighbor. Why is your microphone like way, way down by?
SPEAKER_03Because if I put it way up here, it sounds stupid. It kind of sounds better. You can hear me breathe. Well, stop breathing. See? Can't you stop without breathing? No, well, can I have a deal or not? I don't understand. Oh, are we gonna get feedback now? Or is that his brakes? I believe that's his brakes. Mine size it, buddy.
SPEAKER_05He's gotta look at us like, what the hell are they doing over there?
SPEAKER_03It's a little chilly. We're holding it, we're we're protecting our ears. Yes. That's what you said earlier.
SPEAKER_05Oh, when it's cold, it's not cold out right now.
SPEAKER_03Well, he doesn't know that.
SPEAKER_05He's driving his damn window down. He's got a t-shirt on. He's an idiot.
SPEAKER_03Hey, don't you know it's cold out here?
SPEAKER_05Wait a minute. Why'd he stop? Did he hear us?
SPEAKER_03Wait a minute. Why is he backing up?
SPEAKER_05Why has he got a gun? Things are about to get real here, folks.
SPEAKER_03Listen, guys, we're gonna go now. Not really. Nah, this he shoots at people all the time. It's not really that bad. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05He never shoots at us, so.
SPEAKER_03No, no, that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05We're all good over here. Good standings.
SPEAKER_03Yep. And I would like to say thank you for keeping that relationship with him.
SPEAKER_05I have an itch in my ear.
SPEAKER_03Oh, do you?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's an earwig. Speaking of which.
SPEAKER_05It's not an earwig. It's not an earwig.
SPEAKER_03Not a tumor. Anyway. Anyway, so we found out what happened to our split foyer, our split unit at the house. What the hell are you doing over there? A wig got on the main keyboard or the main board and shorted it. Now he's gotta order a brand new main board. What got on it? A wig. Some kind of bug called a wig. Looks like a worm kind of. How the hell did a bug get on it? It got down in the outside unit, the motherboard. It fried the motherboard, evidently, and we found a red worm that was up in there too. So together these wig and worm, they sabotaged our split unit, and now we have to order a brand new motherboard. Oh, you do? Well, no. Okay. It's under warranty still.
SPEAKER_05All right. Before closing today, Tom.
SPEAKER_03Are we closing now?
SPEAKER_05Pretty soon. I'd like to bring up what happened uh last week. Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER_03Oh, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_05Very sad. Ridiculous. Didn't have to happen. Nope. Really didn't have to happen. And I hate to dig politics back into this, bring it up, but this shit needs to stop. It really does. Or either that, as much as I hate to say it, we all need to grow some balls and fight back. Because if they're gonna keep coming, we can't just stay back and do nothing. The guy, all he ever did was have a conversation with people.
SPEAKER_03Open, open mind.
Hip & Squeak Drop In
SPEAKER_05You have to agree with them. But they they took little clips of what he said and they, you know, into their own agenda, how they wanted it to be shown. Right. And that pisses me off. And you know, I see people on YouTube actually getting on and saying, you know, I believed everything. I actually started going down, doing my own homework, watching the clips, and I was lied to. Yes, you were lied to.
SPEAKER_03All of us were.
SPEAKER_05Well, I wasn't because I watched this.
SPEAKER_03Well, well, yeah, I'm saying, but yeah, they tried to block false.
SPEAKER_05Did I, you know, am I a good Christian? No. I'm no, I'm not. I believe in God. None of us are. You know? I do believe there should be some things for abortion, but I don't think that should be your frickin' birth control either.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. You know?
SPEAKER_05People make mistakes, people get raped. Yes. I mean, I understand that. So I'm not totally against abortion, but that's a big but. Don't wait frickin' six months, seven months, and decide you don't want the kid either. That's stupid. Exactly. Whether anybody's really done that or not, I don't know, so I don't want to act like I know. But I've heard a lot of conversation about it. So, oh. Yeah, a little thunder. Little thunder again.
SPEAKER_03I believe that's Charlie Clapp.
SPEAKER_05But, anyways, you know, the guy, look what he accomplished. People could say, Oh, you never graduated from college. He didn't have to. He was book smart, he was knowledgeable, he knew his history. And he knew. It just saddens me, you know. And I if if it was anybody on any side like that. Hey, I'll be honest. I hated Biden. I hated Kamala Harris, but I never wished him dead. No. Never, ever, ever. You know what? You have to live through those terms. You go through that, what, four years, eight years, whatever you gotta go to, and you just move on. Move on. It's not worth killing anybody for. Nope. Obviously, this is what people voted for, too, with Trump. So people just can't get pissy about it.
SPEAKER_03Right. But anyway, that was bad.
SPEAKER_05It was really sad. But uh getting back to Charlie Kirk, it just sucks Tom, and I don't want to end that as a mean note, but I appreciated everything I did heard hear from. I'm sad I'll never hear from him again. Exactly. And I didn't agree with everything he said either. No. But for the most part his heart was in the right place. Right. Right. He believed what he believed.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_05He stood on that.
SPEAKER_03I think the one thing I take away from all of it, and they've showed so many different uh Charlie Kirk things after all this happened, but the one thing that stands out to me was when he was talking about if I was to die, the most important thing in my life would be my faith and my family. I mean, if you are a Christian and you do know your word, there's when you supposedly get to heaven, God's gonna say, Well done, my good and faithful servant. And you gotta imagine that nobody did it better than Charlie. Right. Whether it's true or not, whether whether anything is is real or God is there or not, definitely not worth dying. It didn't make any difference to him. He believed it and he said it and he stood up for what he believes. Just like all you purple-haired left wingers, you stand up for what you believe. That's what you do. So why is it bad for us to do the same? Exactly. That's all I have to say about that.
SPEAKER_05But you know, it's always that minority that anyways. But uh hey, rest in peace, Charlie. You'll be missed. Uh condolences to the family.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for everything you gave us. Yep.
SPEAKER_05And uh, anyways, you know what? I never talked about football. Yeah, we didn't. Talk about our games we get coming up quickly. Patriots won last week against Miami. That's no big surprise. Miami doesn't look good. They did look good against Buffalo, though.
SPEAKER_03They did.
SPEAKER_05On Thursday, yeah, they did.
SPEAKER_03They have a flash.
SPEAKER_05But anyways, uh, we're playing Pittsburgh this week. At home, thank God.
SPEAKER_03You were uh Denver's playing We're Chargers this week at Chargers. Okay. So that's uh so we're yeah got a division game there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we up to the biggest.
SPEAKER_03They're always tough. They're always tough for us.
SPEAKER_05But uh yay, football season's back. We're happy.
SPEAKER_03Yep, we're happy. Uh oh, here's a shout-out. Good old Kansas City 0-2. Thank you. Oh yeah. First time in forever. Can't forget that, right, Tom? Yeah, we can't. Oh yeah. Never forget that.
SPEAKER_05Anyways, folks.
SPEAKER_03Uh see, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_05I heard that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I know what that was. A dog. Yeah, this toy fell and hit the window.
SPEAKER_05But anyway, we'll end this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and we would like to thank God always for the gift of Gab.
SPEAKER_05Everyone, take care. God bless. Later.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's going to do it for this episode of the MT Alternative Podcast, the only show where two grown men can somehow turn a conversation about music into a debate about football, snacks, and who forgot to hit record last week. Truly groundbreaking stuff, folks. Next time, Mike and Tom will be diving into the music of 1981, because apparently they've decided to slowly crawl through the 80s one year at a time until the microphones give up out of sheer boredom. Expect the usual half music history, half sports rant, and at least one story that probably should have stayed in 1981. I'm Daniel, the poor soul tasked with pretending this is all part of a coherent plan. Thanks for listening and good luck recovering your brain cells before the next episode.
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