Holiday Chaos, Cozy Laughs

Holiday cheer meets porch-chaos honesty as we light up the season with sunshine, BBQ talk, and the kind of tangents only two old friends can justify. We kick off with Rupert’s wry preamble, then slide straight into football plans, the fallout from a “takeover” that left our studio sticky and suspicious, and the comfort of being off work even when you know the restart will hurt. Warm weather doesn’t kill the spirit; it just changes the soundtrack.

Music and movies become our map. We swap favorites from The Little Drummer Boy to Nat King Cole, then reach for the memory-soaked heart of Merle Haggard’s If We Make It Through December. The list debates get loud and fun: Brenda Lee vs. Mariah Carey, Wham vs. Bing, and whether Die Hard deserves its place under the tree. We make the case for Elf, salute A Christmas Story, and admit that Miracle on 34th Street still hits when the room goes quiet. These aren’t rankings so much as rituals—ways to remember who we were and who we still want to be.

We also unwrap the weird old customs: Victorian trees with stuffed birds, Yule logs with superstitions, Santa as public disciplinarian, and towns that aired your year’s sins on a holiday stage. It’s absurd, a little dark, and deeply human. Between the laughs we pause for what matters: checking on neighbors, acknowledging loss, and choosing kindness when December feels heavier than it looks. We point you to our platforms and the site where you can drop us an anonymous message, then tease our season 2 finale where we tackle 1987–1989 with confidence and questionable accuracy.

Pull up a chair and add your voice. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves list wars, and leave a quick review so others can find us. What’s your must-play song, your forever movie, your family’s odd tradition? Tell us—we’re listening.

Transcript

Mike And Tom Enter, Tunes On

SPEAKER_04 0:10

Ah yes, it's that magical time of year again. Twinkling lights, questionable sweaters, and two grown men who absolutely refuse to plan ahead. Welcome to the MT Alternative Podcast Holiday Special, the show where festive cheer collides head-on with sarcasm, nostalgia, and whatever Mike and Tum think they remember from the past. I'm Rupert, your long-suffering presenter, here to inform you that Mike and Tun have decorated the studio in the same way they run this podcast. Loosely, inconsistently, and with zero regard for fire codes or timelines. There may be holiday music, there may be rants, there will definitely be tangents. And at some point, someone will say, wait, was that before or after Reagan? This is the empty alternative holiday episode, which means traditions will be questioned, memories will be misremembered, and the holiday spirit will be filtered through mild irritation and aging pop culture references. So pull yourself something festive, lower your expectations just enough, and prepare for Mike and Tom to attempt a holiday special in the only way they know how, by immediately going off topic. Ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately for all of us, Mike and Tom.

SPEAKER_02 1:40

Well, here we are, Tom. Holiday special, number two for us. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

It's been that many.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

That many. Let's put on a little Christmas tunes here while we're listening.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

There's nothing like a Christmas special without Christmas. Yeah, you gotta have it.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

You gotta set the mood. You gotta set the mood, bud.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Yeah, boy.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

So, yeah. Where should we begin? First of all, I like to talk about the little takeover there last weekend.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Yeah, if that's what you want to call it. Have you listened to that train wreck? Well, I'm I'm I'm really not wanting to, but I'm gonna. Tom, it was terrible. Oh boy. It was terrible. No. Uh, I don't know what we were thinking. Okay, but well, we had to have a yeah, well, it's once a year. True. This is true. You think it really hurt us that bad?

SPEAKER_02 2:32

And uh, weren't you supposed to send Squeak an invite to my party? Uh Did you leave me in charge of that? Oh, you your neighbor. Figure I just assume, you know, you maybe would have invited him.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

I told Ethel Louise, and yeah, well, you know, well.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Yeah. I don't know if there would have been any room. Yeah, I know. You know, uh for a couple more people. Yeah. Well, and not to mention Do we have to make it up to him? No. Oh, okay, cool. No, not at all. Cool. I think letting them in the studio and do their own thing.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

Yeah, they did their own thing and it was they had their 15 minutes.

The “Takeover” Aftermath And Studio Damage

SPEAKER_02 3:17

That's it. I don't think we'll ever do that again. Well, you never say never.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Yeah, because well, you know how they are. Yeah. Pretty persuasive little fellas. I get on them.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

All in all, it wasn't that bad.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

You know, locking the doors, barricading the doors, taping all the windows, taping the windows up.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

I found some broken glass underneath the console. Oh, yeah. Uh I don't know. Some of the buttons were a little sticky.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Yeah, well, not to mention the ones that said don't push were all down. Well, except the red one.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

The red one never got pushed, thank God. Would have set things back. But, anyways. Here we are. Christmas 2025. It is a beautiful sunny day. It's a gorgeous day out there.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

It really is, man.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

You see what the temperature is supposed to be, Christmas Day, 72? Yeah, almost.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

Yeah. White Christmas. I think that's a little racist this time, uh, Weatherman.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Oh, yeah, you can't say that. Yeah, please don't do that, Weatherman. Let's not go there. Let's make this a good uh holiday. Of course, we'll still be ourselves, folks. Of course. That's what Mike and Tom do. That's what Tom does.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Tom does that especially.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

This is true. There we go. But yeah, we're just uh out here enjoying the day.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Any big plans for the holiday, Tom? I mean, it's great that we're out of work for a week. Yeah. Oh man. Just gonna be real.

Warm Weather Christmas And Football Talk

SPEAKER_01 4:53

It's just gonna be relaxed. Yeah, I think Sunday is gonna be a uh a barbecue day. We're gonna have Josh Hogar and watch football and different things. Okay, cool. But just that's the same.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Yeah, you got your Chiefs playing there. Christmas night.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Yeah, Christmas night we're gonna have the Chiefs. Um we gotta get it through Jaguars tomorrow, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Patriots got Baltimore tomorrow. Baltimore. Had a heartbreaker against Buffalo last week, but hey, you know, they were gonna win it.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah, it's good to get that one out right now before the playoff stops.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Yeah, through that unbeaten Patriots season. That's like woo-woo, 18. Oh, yay, woo hoo.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

We lost the Super Bowl. If we gotta lose, it ought to be today. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

Oh, there goes the old sheriff's department.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Pop-ho. Yeah. Woo woo, wee-woo, wee woo, wee-woo. Yeah, there they go. There you go. Anyway, somebody got called. Yeah, somebody. But uh, no, nobody got shot in the liquor store. Nothing. Nothing out here today. It was a quiet neighborhood. Quiet, yep. Yeah. And uh, well, I tell you, it's just been crazy at the house lately. We've got um we finally got the the septic tank and everything, other, you know, that sewer line thing fixed.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Right, right.

Work Shutdown Gripes And Time Off

SPEAKER_01 6:14

And then we had uh issues with the uh the uh guy coming over and building the dag um building, the little shed out there. Well, he evidently got upset and he won't call nobody back, and now I've got a half-like. Who's upset? The little guy that the builder there? Yeah, because evidently Tony didn't tell him he was going on a cruise or something for five days, and the guy said, Well, I can't wait around on Tony. I gotta Why did you have to wait for Tony? Well, exactly. What are you waiting for? Yeah. Evidently there was a door that he was waiting on, and and Tony didn't bring it till after he came back, and it upset him. No. Okay. See how things just erupt.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

That's like drama.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Yeah, it does. It really does. And it did it's Christmas, and we don't need any of that drama. No, there's enough drama in the world. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, anyway. But those are things that's going on, and you just it's life, and and you just wake up and you think, goodness, that you know, that's all that you got going on. That is all. Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's all you got to complain about. Exactly. It's I I can climb over that with without any pants on. Yeah, right. I can just eat Cheerios and have a mile and Tom shoes. No, don't do that. No, don't do that. Oh, yeah, my shoes stink. Oh, and your feet will end up smelling. Yeah, please. That would be terrible.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Well, you know. So uh work was a little strange. End of the month, but we didn't do end of the month things really. Work was strange? Well, it's always strange.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

I was gonna say, what do you mean, strange?

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Very strange. Just strange. The atmosphere, of course, the holidays coming up, and always is that way at work. Everybody's getting ready for shutdown. Yeah. There's a lot of strange. Would you like to work shut down? No, thank you. Yeah. Why would you ask me that?

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Yeah. I've been here too long and I understand what that means. You want to be myway, uh, you're I'm not working. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

Not gonna do it. I need this time off.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

I put up with this crap all year long. Why would I want to do it on my week off?

SPEAKER_02 8:48

The only thing that does suck, you get that whole week off of relaxing, we go back and we do a roll truck. It's like you get all that week to recuperate, and it's like, boom. I like a day or two. Jump right in back. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Boom. Here it is. Now you're good. We're gonna be useless.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Right off the bat again.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Yeah. But hey, I'm gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

That's all we get to bitch about. Here we go again. Exactly. You know?

SPEAKER_01 9:12

I'll do a road truck every once in a while.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

So we'd like I like to talk about Christmas music right now. Christmas music. Is there any Christmas music that that you really enjoy? From childhood, anything. Yeah, I like all kinds of Christmas music. I mean, let's be realistic. After what, 78, 80, there's really been no good Christmas songs coming out. The little couple.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

The little drummer boy has always had a little thing going on with the channel. She liked that little TV. She got little Yep. My wife, that's her favorite Christmas carol of all time, is the Little Drummer Boy.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

That's a good song, and it's also a good little show, a little kid show, yeah, a little clamation or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Yeah, and uh just uh it brings back a lot of memories. But uh one of my favorite Christmas songs, of course, is uh I didn't want you getting cooting me or anything with this music.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

Yeah, you well, this music. This song is banned. Yeah, how can they play it? Which was which song is sexist. Oh really? Baby, it's cold.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't but but we can sing about our wop. Yeah, we can ass pussies okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

This is a Christmas show. I shouldn't have to do that. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm bad.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

But hey, that's the that's the MTL Turner podcast.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Lord forgive me and be with all the starving people.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

We can't be serious all the time.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Yeah.

Pip And Squeak’s Big Heads And Neon Signs

SPEAKER_02 10:41

That's not us. Yep. Nope. So what do you think Pippin Squeaker up to these days? I'm not sure. Since that takeover.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah, the takeover I think gave them a big head. You think so? I think so. Well, the neon sign outside the hole kind of put it under the star. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Oh, yeah. You don't even understand. I okay, I'm asleep one night. Okay. And in my window, I see this flashing light. So I get up and I look. Aren't they like way out from you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Well, 75.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Well, he's he's he has to stay 75. Yeah, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

But still, he's way up there.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Okay. How bright is this sign? It's it's a big neon thing. Flashing, there's like a star is born. A star born.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah, he thinks he's something else. Does he think the wise men will go to the star?

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Yeah, well, if they're wise, they'll stay away. Hopefully. But yeah, it's it's a nice little aggravation there at the house.

SPEAKER_02 11:48

But from all I know, Pip is spending time with family. Yeah. Doesn't even say anything about the takeover.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Nothing. He's laying low. Wow. Yeah. Squeak's like, yeah, I'm star of the show over here, yay, me, and all that kind of code.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Though I have heard both Pip and Squeak think they should be running things at one time.

Fishing, Winter Nostalgia, And Local Wildlife

SPEAKER_01 12:09

Yeah, they did say that. Did he hear the grumblings? Well, it's kind of hard not to get away with everything, but yeah. We hear it. We hear it. We do? Yeah. I try not to. But uh it's just so nice today. It just really is.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

It looks like there is a slight breeze. I'm just not feeling it.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Well, uh flag over there. The flag's gone, but you know, I don't really feel a breeze over here either.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Strange.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

I'll I'll enjoy it. You will? Yes. I'll enjoy no breeze. No breeze? I knew a guy one time called Cool Breeze. Worked with him. He called me June Bug. June Bug? Yeah. Why would he call you that? Well, because our boss looked like Nil Earn Hart. And he said that I was Dil Earn Hart's son. June Bug. We'd have to put a damper on this, speaking of NASCAR.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Yeah, I understand. Greg Biffle. That's sad. And his family. That sucks. And his motorhome driver, his pilot. Damn, man.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

On behalf of the MTL Eternity Podcast, we send our condolences, especially to the Biffle family and all the boys. All the people that were involved.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah, and their families.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

Their families also. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

That sucks. I hate to bring that up, but that was uh something we learned about a few days ago and a couple days ago. But I'm not a big NASCAR fan myself, but you know, working in Florida and Daytona when I had my business at the Speedway. So you know you get involved. Getting to know a lot of not know them personally, just get to know who they are. Yeah, so you know, like anybody who you know, even their family, that's gonna that's just sucks.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Yeah, we're sorry for you.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Yep. But anyways, there you go. Getting back to our normal if we can call it normal here at the MC Alternative. Yeah, we're not too normal.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

We're not too normal.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

We try like hell though, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Yeah. Um so what what do you think is one of your best Christmas memories?

SPEAKER_02 14:34

Let's see. This is a tough one, Tom. I had quite a few. I think my best one, actually, this is probably gonna I mean I had a lot of good memories when I was a kid, but probably my daughter Kristen's first, you know, Christmas and daughter Trisha's first Christmas. Right. You know, you have a parent, it means a whole different thing to you. I mean, I could pick a couple times when I was younger. We didn't get much as a kid. I didn't get every you know, there's times I got nothing I want nothing I asked for, but things I needed, I guess. Exactly. You know what I mean? Now you look at it that way. But I'd have to say both my daughters' first Christmases, because it just seems special to me. Absolutely. I'd have to go that way.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

And uh I think m mine I remember when every one of us were together. All of my brothers, yeah, my brothers and sisters and everything were all together at one time. Right. And uh that was the last time I remember everybody being together was on a Christmas day. And then after that everybody married and moved away, and nobody could come, and then you'd have everybody almost, and then some people could just go, you know.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

That's what I mean when I said there's a lot of stuff when I was younger, because we my parents always had the Christmas parties at their house. And it'd be my mother's side of the family then. Right. So then I'll come over, and you know, you're all with your cousins, sure. And as each cousin got older or whatever, yeah, they have their own lives, yeah. They don't move on. And then the parties aren't the same anymore. Then your grandparents who were there kind of doing everything, you know, you know, that was the glue that held everybody to together. Right. They pass away. Sure. And it just, you know, things change.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yep. Everybody, and and now it's odd because the people you used to stay in touch with you don't even know anymore.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

Nope, exactly right.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

I And it's just weird.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Yep. I mean, I've got my cousins who's got kids, I don't even know how to do it. Right, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

I have nieces and nephews that have kids and grand the I have a niece that's a grandmother. Okay, what is all this about? Right, you just so you just move on, but but yeah, it's just crazy stuff. Life, man. Life's funny.

Shotguns, Hunting Season, And Garage Talk

SPEAKER_02 16:52

But you know, of course, I moved from my hometown, you moved from your hometown.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Right. But you know, the whole th the whole deal of Christmas is is uh just being with family and just enjoying your life and enjoying what you have. Absolutely. And uh it's not about what you get. No, never has been. It's about what you got.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Maybe when you're younger, yeah, that's what you think of. Obviously. You're a kid. Of course. Yeah, Santa.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

But uh as you grow older, it's not about what you get, it's about what you got.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

Right. So but you know what I'd like to bring up? Go ahead. I can't believe I haven't told you this. I watched something last weekend. Oh, okay. Yeah. I ended up getting this concert online. Oh, a concert, let me guess.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Can you guess who it was? Oh, I don't know, but you're probably gonna give me a warning. You're right. The warning. Oh goodness. Tomos. What an excellent concert. What an excellent concert. I'm sure it was. I heard Squeak's comments. I'm I'm telling you, I'm sure that it was because these girls are very, very, very, very talented. Very talented. Um, I mean, I have no problems understanding why you enjoy them so much.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

Now, Bonnie and I decided that what was it? We we were going in late Monday because of Duke Energy power savings.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

We we are we we enrolled in this program that causes us not to get to go to work.

Home Repairs, Many TVs, And Game Night Plans

SPEAKER_02 18:20

And get paid. But anyways, yeah. So I said, you know what? I got some time tonight, watch some football Sunday, and then yeah, nighttime. I said, well, let's put on get that warning concert. So we sat and watched that. Good times. Good times. And I'm sporting my warning t-shirt from the concert and Rodley on July 15th of this year. There you go. Okay, maybe I'm going on a little too much about the warning. All right, maybe Squeak's right. Check out the warning people. I'm telling you. Check them out, check out their live stuff. They won't be disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Very, very, very good, good group.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Since Squeak made his comment, I figured I'd bring that up. There you go. So, again, I hate to say that repeat myself and yourself. A beautiful day.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

It's so gorgeous out here. I mean, it's almost good enough to go fishing.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

It's still good to go fishing, though. Well, maybe on a lake or something.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Yeah, it'd be a little cooler on the lake.

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Yeah, but but still, hey, just wait a couple days.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Hey, the worst day on the lake. Springtime will be here. The worst day on the lake is better than the best day at work. Is there a best day at work? Well, I don't know. I don't know. There's been a couple pretty close.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Well, yeah, yeah. Lately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

I get what you're saying. Yeah, there's been a pretty close.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

But uh, yeah. I'm just uh Any any plans besides Christmas? What are you gonna do this week? Besides be here probably sometime this week to do another podcast.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

We'll uh finish up our our year for the eighties and the music. Talk about our new.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Logo. Oh, our logo. So people you're going to see a change. Check it out, yeah. Podcast sites. You're going to see a change in the logo, don't be uh alarmed.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Nope, because uh Pip and Squeak are getting taken off for a minute, and we're gonna do another logo other than them.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

Well, actually, that wasn't Pip and Squeak on that logo. That was a caricature of us.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Yeah, Pip and Squeak with the little dudes up with the cartoon cartoon we're still trying to make. I gotcha. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

But anyway. A little bit. A little bit. Just tiny bits and bounds. We're trying. Baby steps.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

It is been baby steps for what? Two years now. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah. Take a little sippy poo.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

You can't get a sippy. Guys, this brings back so many memories. We've just had so many good things and good times through this podcast. It has been fun. It's been so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

People go, oh, how many listeners you got? How many listeners? We don't have a lot. But you know what? We do this for fun. It's so much fun. You know.

Weather Swings And Porch Life Forecasts

SPEAKER_01 21:14

It's therapeutic. Yeah, it's therapeutic. Yeah, that too. Barney Fife. It's therapeutic.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

There we go at the Andy Griffin.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Well, yeah. It's you gotta go with Andy.

unknown 21:29

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

One of the two.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

It's the most wonderful time of the year. It is, Tom.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

See now, if I was up north, back in Massachusetts right now, 30 degrees, waiting for snow. Which, I'm not gonna lie, I do miss some snow.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Right, me too.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

And I certainly miss snowmobiling. And skating.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

That's fun too.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

I probably couldn't skate for shit now, but it's been so damn long.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

I miss ice fishing.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

That was fun too.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

I never caught any ice, but I like fishing for it.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

Yeah, I remember my first pike. I thought it was some kind of creature. I'm like, what the hell? Coming out of that black nose?

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Did I catch an alligator? Yeah. Big old nose sticking up out of the air.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Oh, you go! I'm like, what? What have I got? Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

That was a good one. But uh, did I keep it? No. You turned him loose? Yeah. Of course you do. That's for that. You're a sportsman. I guess. That's what it's called. You know, catch and release. Can you eat them? I have no idea. Yeah, me neither. I've never been fishing in a area where they are. You don't have them here in North Carolina? No. Oh. No. Northern Pike is about as close as we get. Okay. Well, those are too. They're really not, they're really not around here. Walleye is is pretty much as far as a fish you'll get from anything. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Well, we know you got bass.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

We got bass. We're fish, carp, you know. Same things we got.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

Yeah. We um catching crayfish was always fun. Oh, yeah, that's a load of fun. You call them crawfish here?

SPEAKER_01 23:27

We call I call them crawdads.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Crawdads.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Well, it's not the baseball team.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

No. Not out here. Well, and out here it is called crawdads.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

You gotta catch them going backwards.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Yep. Well, and see, when you find out which rock they're under, you gotta open the rock from the other side.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Right, so they come out.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Backwards. Yep. Not gonna catch them frontwards. No, because they don't go that way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

Don't let those little, don't let those little pinches fool you.

Traditions We Want From Listeners

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Yeah, they'll get you. They will get you. It's amazing how those little things come. I'm telling you though, some of the best catfish bait. How does a crab stick you just break the leg off? How does it be able to pinch you like that, man? Yeah, but uh man, some of the best catfish bait is is those craw dead tails. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, crawdad tails. You just, yeah, it's awesome. People say, I can't believe you use that as bait. That's food.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Or just like some old timer, or not some old timer, some guy telling me one time, he's probably a middle-aged guy when I was younger. You're not gonna catch any bass with a night crawler. Guess what, yes, you will.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Guess what? Yeah. I'm not gonna use all these, oh, you use this bait, spinners, and no. Yeah, well, there's nothing like a good all-American worm.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

And it's funny, has large the largemouth bass, they got that one jump, that's it. Smallmouth bass.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

They'll jump all the way until the boat. Yep. Yep. Put up a good fight. I enjoy fishing. Enjoy it. Yep. And this is hunting season also. There's a lot of hunters at the house. They have that little bird preserve and everything there at the house. It's time for me to buy a nice shotgun. Yeah. Stevens is the way to go. It's one of the better, I think, one of the better built for the money. Would you go with pump? Yes, that's what I have. Yes. I like it. Okay. Automatic. I mean, it's it's fine, but you you're just gonna spend more money than you really need to.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

You just like pump because it looks cool.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

It sounds even better.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

It's a scary sound.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Yeah, well, when you when you sneak up on me in my underwear on my damn recliner. What the hell? Oh, I'm frozen. Let the body sit down.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Oh, it's just like when you shoot me because you think I threw a hot coffee at your face? Yeah, wait. Ah. That wasn't even at your house. Yeah, that wasn't you. I was given a scenario. Wasn't me.

Music Memories: Merle Haggard And Family

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Yeah. Yep. Anyway. Yeah. So have you got any plans this week?

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Nope. Bonnie's working. I'll get some plumbing I'm gonna work on, finish working on downstairs. New toilet for the main bathroom, the master bath. There you go. Yeah, yay. Then a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

We just did yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

We just did a new toilet. Yeah, I gotta get one for the other one. It's sold. Yeah. That's it. Nothing exciting, Tom. I know this is just. She gets out early on Christmas Eve. She's off Christmas Day. She's off the next day after Christmas. She'll be running around doing errands. Me? Here I'll be. On the porch.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

You know what I've got planned for Christmas night? What do you have planned for Christmas? You're watching the Chiefs. Yeah, you already told me that. And then uh then the next night, I'll go ahead and catch the uh the uh opening of part two of season five of Stranger Things. Ah, okay. Which comes out Christmas night also. But we're watching the Broncos game first.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Well, that that'll be done before your show comes on, anyways.

unknown 27:19

Right?

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Four o'clock game. Probably Christmas night?

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Oh, are you playing at eight o'clock? Oh, you're the last game on Christmas night. You are the last game on the game. Yeah, so you're gonna have to wait.

unknown 27:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

That's just the way it is, I guess. Will Tammy mind? No. She won't mind.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Okay. She knows. Excellent. I married a good girl.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

I have many TVs, so it doesn't matter. I'm hoping tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

We have many TVs.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

The only thing that sucks is I wanted to watch the game out here tomorrow, the Patriots in Baltimore, but they changed it to an 8 o'clock game, 8 20, whatever that. Oh, right. Yeah, I don't know how it'll be out here at nighttime. Yeah, it'll be nice. I mean the weather's supposed to be nicer, so I don't know how it'll be at night. But you know me, I'm diehard. I'll sit out here.

Fake Ad Break And Return

SPEAKER_01 28:05

It's supposed to be in the 30s. As long as there's no wind. Yeah, this morning. It was a little chilly at the house. So I get up, I decide, well, I'm gonna run over to Mike's, I'm gonna put a hoodie on, because we'll be outside, you know, on the porch. Supposed to be 60 degrees today. Yeah, I'll be good. I think it's close. I don't think it hits 60. Well, let me tell you, at 8 o'clock at my house, it was 36 degrees.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

It was cold here this morning. Wait a minute. I was out here early this morning.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

I'm not wearing just a hoodie. I had to go get my coat.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Yeah, it's 55 degrees right now. Yeah. But there's not a real strong breeze or anything.

SPEAKER_01 28:41

Nothing at all. Sunny. Man.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Tomorrow 61. Hardly a cloud in the sky. Christmas day, we got 71. Yeah. So the temperature, let's see. Tomorrow night. Oh shit. Yeah, I don't think I'll be doing that, Tom. Monday morning's supposed to be 24 degrees.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Yeah, see, what's going to be chilling?

SPEAKER_02 29:01

The nighttime's gonna drop pretty quick.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Yeah. Well, that's what happens when you have a clear sky. Yep. It just the temperature just goes nuts.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Then it goes, we got 53, 67 on Tuesday, 71, 71, 72. What the heck? This is December, folks. December of North Carolina.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

All right. Yep. That's that's the way it is. Yeah, we got stuff going on. It's always stuff going on.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Yeah. You know what else I notice? The days go by very quick lately. They have been. The older you get, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

Is that what it is? Yeah, it's what it is. Chocolate. Oh. Because that seems to help today come by.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Oh, I don't want to say that. Exactly. Anyway. So I wonder what other people would be doing for the holidays. We like to have people like text us, call in, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Yeah, what are your holiday traditions? We'd love to hear that. Yeah. Like, does your grandma make uh a certain stuffing or does she do a birthday grandmother, your mother, your anybody.

SPEAKER_02 30:14

Yeah, anybody in your family. Any good traditions, any sisters, you bring a guy over here.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

I know somebody at work.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

I won't mention her name. But a girl at work. They have Bad Santa Gift exchange.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

They do the gift exchange. Which I think is pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

She was showing me a couple things. Yep. I told her.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Squeak would fit right in with that.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Oh, absolutely. Pip might be a little stuffy for that. I don't know. Well, Pip can Pip can hang. Oh me.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Don't let Pip fool you. Oh boy. Doesn't let loose like squeak, but. Oh boy. I'm wondering what they are gonna do with anywhere. Exactly. Anyway, but yeah, that's uh it's fun to do stuff different like that at Christmas and have your own traditions.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Absolutely. But I would love to hear other people's inputs on some favorite memories, favorite songs.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Yeah, do you pop popcorn and watch Miracle on 32nd Street? You have to think about favorite songs.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

You know what always sticks out to me, Tom, besides childhood songs, Rudolph, and all that. Right. An album my mother always played. Merle Haggard. And it was a song that stuck out to me for my teenage years. If we make it through December. We make it to December. That song always, you know, you know, I'm not a big country music fan. I like certain songs, but I do like the older country stuff. That freaking Merle always. You know, because of my parents country. That song just is always in my because it just brings back memories. My mother's cooking, you know, bacon for the holidays. And that Merle Haggard album was on. I mean the other songs, but that off that album, that song always stuck out to me. It was just a good, wholesome.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah, no, no. It's Merle, man. He's such a good guy. And and uh I've always said that Merle ought to be the king of the country. He ought to be. Not George Jones? Nah, it shouldn't be. He's a possum. He plays dead, drives a lawnmower with drink. All his songs were hits. Yeah, well. You didn't write them. No, that was George Strait. Oh, George Strait. Yeah, that's him. That's a woman. That's him. I'm sorry, Tom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't write him, dude. All the songs are good, Tom. Yeah, well, he's got a good voice. He's a good storyteller. Yeah, well, when you sell your soul to the devil, that's what happens. No, no, no. I don't know that he did that, guys. I really don't. That's just Tom. Yeah. Take that away from the show. Anyway. But uh he he does do a great job. I mean, he's he's really, really good. I just don't know that he ought to be king of the country, but a lot of people would disagree with me. Well, maybe that's their deal.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

So it's opinions. Yes, I love opinions. Makes us all different. No what's to say about opinions. Yep, I got one. Everybody does, Tom. Everybody does. Hey, it's kind of like a butthole. They ought to say that. We're gonna take a little break for a commercial and we'll be right back.

Weird Old Christmas Traditions

SPEAKER_03 33:31

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SPEAKER_02 33:55

Alright, we're back. Hey. Alright, Tom, I'm gonna start this uh little segment with uh some weird traditions for Christmas. Weird traditions? Yes. I'm just gonna name a few. We've probably already done this before last year. But they're always fun. Yeah. Alright, we got the dead bird trees, Tom. Dead bird trees. Yes, in Victorian England, people decorated trees with stuffed birds, not ornaments, actual birds, Tom. What'd they stuff them with? Uh uh, a taxidermy stuffs them with, I guess. A taxidermy?

SPEAKER_01 34:32

They okay, wait a minute. So they took dead bird. Yes, yes. And they took it to a taxidermy. Or maybe did it themselves. And they uh they did it themselves.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

I'm saying maybe. There were some, you know, back in the day there, they probably knew how to do that. No, know who to do that. Oh. You know, you know what I'm trying to spit out.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Yeah, there were a bunch of stupid, crazy people back in the day. That's what you were trying to say.

SPEAKER_02 34:57

Well, no, not really, but we'll go with that. I'm paraphrasing. Oh, okay. All right, how about the U log was an actual log? Yeah, it was an actual log, not that kind of log. Oh. Not a not cake, not decorative, a massive log burned for 12 days. If it went out early, bad luck. If it sparked, also bad luck. Ooh. So, Tom, what they're saying, so Christmas is basically don't mess this up or you next year you curve. Yeah, that's what they're saying.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

You better put a good log on that fire, boys. Don't you put no bullshit up there?

SPEAKER_02 35:33

What if you're not there to watch it spark?

SPEAKER_01 35:35

Yeah, see it. I don't know. Well, if the tree fell in the woods and there wasn't there, did you hear it?

SPEAKER_02 35:43

No, I'm not there.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Right. See.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Okay. Gotcha. So if it sparks and I'm not there. It didn't spark. I didn't see it spark. Nope. Who's gonna say it sparked? Exactly. Okay, cool. Nothing sparked. Okay, mummers and Christmas begging. Mummers and Christmas begging. People dressed in disguises went door to door, sang badly, and demanded food or booze. Refused them? Social shame.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Shame on you for not giving them booze.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

Nope. I guess uh it's like Carolyn without consequences.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I don't know. Uh what would you think if I rolled up in 7-Eleven and old crackhead came up and I didn't give him any money? Oh, that's terrible. You didn't give crackhead any money. That is terrible.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Where are they gonna get their fix? It's Christmas, Tom. Yeah. Uh, anyways. Okay. How about scaring kids into being good?

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Yeah, go to 7-Eleven. That'll be good. Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Send them right up parallel, scare them right up to the house. 7-Eleven. Please tell me where there's a 7-Eleven here, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

I grew up in Kansas. They're all over out there. They're all in Daytona, too. Florida. Okay. Scaring kids into being good. Santa wasn't always jolly. Early versions, he punished kids publicly, carried whips, or kidnapped them. Ah, publicly. Or he kidnapped you. He was a bad mother. So was he like a pedophile? Why is he kidnapping kids? How is that gonna make you be good?

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Well, first off, why is he kidnapping bad kids?

SPEAKER_02 37:25

Oh, is this like uh Pinocchio at the island, a little boy?

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Yeah, see. Yeah the same kind of freaking freak show.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

That's another podcast for another day.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Yeah, we're gonna give you one day, yeah. So this is Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 37:41

Gifts were small on purpose, Tom. Uh-huh. One orange, a wooden toy, and a book. That was it. An orange? Imagine giving that to your grandson now? An orange, a wooden toy, and a book? Sure. What do you think he would act up? Do you think he'd act up?

SPEAKER_01 37:59

Might flip you off, maybe? I don't know. If I gave him an orange and a stick and a damn book. Well, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

At least make a wooden toy, not just a stick. Well, that's what you gonna call the stick.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Listen, when I was growing up, a stick was all kinds of toys. It was a gun, a knife, a sword, yeah. See? A point. Yeah, yeah. A cane? Yeah, well, you were see. We were we were anything with the channel.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

We had imaginations then. Yeah. But anyway. Oh, here's one you would probably appreciate, Tom. Okay. Public Christmas humiliate humiliation. Sure. Yeah. You like to be humiliated?

SPEAKER_01 38:38

At Christmas? Yeah. Sure. That's why I go to all the Christmas parties.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

Bad behavior during the year. Some towns literally announced it publicly during Christmas festival. And nothing brings family together like community judgment.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce my brother-in-law. The dumbass. We only do this once a year. Yeah, we're an idiot still. Remember we did this last year, you idiot. Dumbass.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Piece of shit. No.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

See? That's Merry Christmas. A happy new year, you idiot.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Christmas was once illegal.

SPEAKER_01 39:24

Yeah. Sure it was.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

In the 1600s, England and colonial America, Christmas was banned. Too pagan. Too fun. Too much joy. Yeah, yeah. Heaven forbid you have too much joy. Easy. That kind of sounds like the Democratic Party now. Calm down. Calm down. Yep. Okay. Let's not have any fun. Hey, animals were treated as equals. Some households fed animals first on Christmas. Others believed animals could talk at midnight.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Well, wait a minute. What's midnight got to do with anything? They can talk at midnight. On Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

My animals talk all the time. Making noises, barking. No. This is talking. You know, like Dr. Doolittle? Yeah. You can talk to the animals. No, I can't. They talk to me. No, no, no. No, no. You're missing the point here. They can talk they're communicating with the people.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

With me, yeah. They're not you. People. Oh, everyone. Oh, they're communicating. Well, how's people all animals? Alright, we're gonna move on now.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Santa didn't come at night.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

He didn't? Nope. Did he come? Oh. Okay. Easy. All right. I'm just sitting here waiting for this thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Subcultures, kids waited all day. No sneaking, no mystery.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

Just anxiety. Easy, Santa. Yeah. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Okay, all right. Okay, how about this? No trees, just green stuff. Yeah. That kind of green stuff, Tom.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Well, see, this is why you want to build things up, make things difficult.

SPEAKER_02 41:03

We're talking about Holly, Ivy, stuff like that. Mary. No, no, no. No, no Mary Jane involved. Oh. Well, but it's not mentioned here. Ivy. Well, the ease. Christmas was loud at one time. Yeah, I bet it was. So gunshots, firecrackers, firecrackers. All night. So I guess Christmas was once like 4th of July.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

Yeah. Well, when do you have the right kind of Christmas tree? It could be anything. It was fun back in the day, I guess. Yeah. With the right Christmas tree, you can have any kind of tree.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

I kind of feel neg I didn't get an orange and a wooden toy in a book. Yeah. I feel like I got shafted somehow. I did.

Top Christmas Songs: Debates And Snubs

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Why? I got a toy. You did? Yep. What was it? It was a wooden toy. Okay. It was this little airplane. Okay. Okay. And then I got a book. Okay. It said. Well, I don't know what it said because I was too young. I couldn't read yet. But how do you know you had a book then? Well, you you can't read it, but you know what it is. So you knew you had a book? I had a book. How'd you know it wasn't like a car? Well, because I knew what a car was. Okay, or a block. Well, I knew what a block was. Because I had some of those that had A and B and C and D and all of them. Okay. But yeah, all that stuff, but I just didn't. So what was the wooden toy? The wooden toy? Right. Oh, it was like an airplane, a little wooden airplane. What was it made of? Wood. Balsa wood? Well.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Those fly better. Well, see, I don't know because you could have fucking make a plane out of a two by four and expect it to fly.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Okay, well, I didn't make it. I don't know. I just got it for a present.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

Tom, I'm very disappointed in this story. Well. You left out a lot of details that I'm sure people would have loved to have heard. Were there details? I don't know, but maybe all our fans would have liked to have heard it. What what are they hearing? Well, nothing now, obviously. Alright. There we go. Moving on. We're gonna move on to uh the top ten Christmas songs. Oh, I know one of these. Okay, number one, we have White Christmas, Big Crosby. Oh yeah. How you feel about that one? I kind of like that. Christmas without you. Uh number two, Mariah Carey, All I Want for Christmas is you. Was good at one time. I think it's played out now. Of course, we could say that about all these Christmas songs, but there's some I like better. Rocking Around the Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee, number three, love that song. Okay. That's a good holiday song. Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms. Okay. That's another good song.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

I'm still waiting on my favorite one.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Last Christmas, Wham, another good song.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Yeah. Okay. We have the uh Christmas song, Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire, Nat King Cole. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

Merry O'Zoe.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Yeah. It's the most wonderful time of the year at number seven, Andy Williams. Yeah, we'll go with that. Still waiting on my favorite. Number eight, Felice Navidad.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Mm-hmm. Nope. Nope. That wouldn't be it. Yeah, but that's it.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Bilingual and Global. Oh, yeah. Well, all of it. Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas. Have yourself. Judy Garland version. Uh Merry Little Christmas. Number ten, Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, Gene Autry. Classic song. Classic. Yeah. Okay. Still have a good one.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

We have my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 44:50

Honorable mentions. Because someone's gonna ask, Tom. Silent Night, traditional song. Good song. Blue Christmas, Elvis Presley. Another good two. Do they know it's Christmas? Band-Aid. Do they know it's Christmas time? Santa Claus is coming to town. Oh, okay. And then that's that's okay. Jackson 5. I like that one. That's good. Yeah. Little Michael Jackson. I did see him. Happy Christmas. War is over. John Lennon. And that's the list, Tom. I never heard my favorite. What is your favorite, Tom?

SPEAKER_01 45:34

I just don't understand what happened to uh.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

What are you what are you looking for?

SPEAKER_01 45:42

I was looking for the name of the song, but I can't remember it now. We'll have to move on.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

It's not your hippie song, is it?

SPEAKER_01 45:50

No, that's a good song. I had something else in mind.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

I'm sad that you did not hear your favorite in this, Tom. Of course, we already talked about the Merle Haggard.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Right. I love that song. If I make it to December.

Top Christmas Movies: Die Hard Included

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Will you? We're already here. Alright, and let's move on now to the top ten Christmas movies of all time, Tom. What do you think's number one, Tom? Uh Dihard. Not a Christmas movie, Tom. So no, it's not number one, Tom. Okay. How about It's a Wonderful Life? Oh, yeah, yeah. Jim Jimmy Stewart. Yes? Yeah, that that that's a good movie. It really is. A holiday class.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

I'd have to watch it again. It's been many, many years. A lot of years since I've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

You know, every time you get hit in the head, an angel gets its wings. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Boy, there's a lot of angels up there, Naven. All right.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Number two, Tom. A Christmas story. See?

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Good movie. Now I do the stuff.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

That'll be coming up on the day 24 hours. Yep, use your dry out. Come on. Leglamps, BB guns, and parental disappointment. Oh, yes. How about Home Alone? Yeah. It's a good movie. The first one. The first one. Yeah, the other two are rare. I mean, they just Well, holy shit, Tom. Look what number four is. Die Hard. Imagine that. It says here, yes, it's a Christmas movie. Even Bruce Willis eventually gave up fighting. Eventually. Oh, yeah, because you guys freaking beat the shit out of him mostly, probably. Like relentless.

SPEAKER_01 47:34

Have you seen him in The Last Boy Scout? How many of us could beat his ass?

SPEAKER_02 47:39

That was a great movie, too. Yes. Number five, Tom, one of our favorites. National Ampoon's Christmas Vacation.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

Yeah. Hey, you smell something? Yeah, fried biscuit.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

The guy sitting there in his chair smoking a stone. Oh, that's funny. All right. Number six, we have Elf. Santa! I do like that. Santa! Sit on a throne of lies. Miracle on 34th Street's number seven. That's the original, 1947. Black and white. How about the Grinch? The cartoon, Dr. Seuss. Mr. Grinch. Number nine is Scrooge with Bill Murray. Tom has not watched it. Tom, uh, you have to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

I'll have to figure out a night this week.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

You really should watch that. For Christmas. Okay, it even says here, Bill Murray, weaponizing sarcasm against Christmas and losing. I mean, how perfect is that? Okay. And this movie, I don't know. I've never heard Love Actually.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Yeah, it's a it's a love movie.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

It's a messy, charming, problematic, and unavoidable after December 10th. What the hell does that mean?

SPEAKER_01 48:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

About honorable mentions.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Some other lady is.

SPEAKER_02 48:50

We have some honorable mentions here, Thomas. Do they? The Muppet Christmas Carol. Oh, what a wonderful movie. John Denver in that? Probably. I think so. Yeah, old drunk. Fly a plane. Oh, don't. Okay. You're gonna make it to the moon. That's a mountain right there. Alright, we got Gremlins, Bad Santa.

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Badder Santa. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Polar Express and White Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Polar Express is another one I've never really watched. It's a good movie. It's weird, but it's it's a good movie. I think that's why I don't watch them, as they're weird.

SPEAKER_02 49:25

But uh, yeah, that's it for uh stuff going on. Christmas. Is there any uh last words you'd like to say there, Tom?

Gratitude, Kindness, And Season Reflections

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Well, I just want to just remind people that we do have a lot of fun here on this podcast. Oh, we have a ball. And I just want to let everybody know that we're we do have a serious heart for folks. So reach out to somebody that you know that's close to you, that needs something, and and help them any way you can. And let's get back to that and just take care of your neighbors and enjoy Christmas for what it's really meant for, and hug your family, because as we mentioned earlier about the Biffle family, you just don't ever know when it might be the last day. So just don't take anything for granted and enjoy your life and just uh thank God for the the gift of Gab and the season and everything else.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

Well, Tom, you pretty much said it all there. And uh I myself right now would like to before I finish with a uh end this with something I wanted to say, I would just like to say listen to us on all our uh platforms. We're on iHeart, Amazon Music, uh, Spotify, BuzzSprout, and go to our website, mtaltpod.com. Uh, check out our webpage. We have a little microphone on the bottom here on the right side. You can leave a message. Uh you're incognito, we don't know who you are, but uh we can text us even. We appreciate the input. Everyone, uh, this holiday season. I hope everybody uh I hope everybody's doing alright and can enjoy time with family or just uh think back, reflect. Life could be worse, and hopefully things will get better. You know, we're on the right path, hopefully. Uh Tom and like Tom said, we enjoy doing this. This is just something we do for fun. We just get together and sit on our my porch or in the little studio we have. And again, it's just for fun. And we uh hope uh everybody's enjoying this. And if not, again, if anybody's got any opinions or you know, something they want to throw out there, yeah. Let us know. Let us know what you would like to hear, what you don't like hearing. Again, we do this for fun. Tom and I like to screw around a lot, and this is how we, you know, life can't always be serious. Yep, we gotta release. So this is how we release, and you know, uh hopefully we're not offending anybody. And if you are offended, sorry, but that's just the way it is, you know. Move on. And we're not doing this to offend anybody, we're just having fun.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

Nothing is meant.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

On that note, folks, uh, we'll be back with one more episode before the end of the season. But uh, everybody, uh, Merry Christmas, take care, and God bless. Merry Christmas. Later.

Platforms, Website, And Listener Messages

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And there you have it. Another MT Alternative Podcast holiday special has come to a close. A festive experiment that answered the age-old question: what happens when Mike and Tom try to be seasonal without adult supervision? Somewhere in this episode there was holiday cheer. Somewhere else, there was a story that started in December and somehow ended in July of a completely different decade. Science may never fully explain it. But fear not, this chaos does in fact lead somewhere. Next week, Mike and Tom will be officially wrapping up season 2 by tackling the music and other notables from 1987, 1988, and 1989. That's right. Three massive years, one episode, and two men who will confidently mix them all together like a greatest hits cassette, labeled, close enough. Expect. Songs from 87, blamed on 89. Cultural moments from 88, remembered incorrectly but defended aggressively, and at least one sentence that begins with, no wait, that was later. Or earlier, hang on. It's the season 2 finale, which means slightly more effort, slightly bigger opinions, and the exact same lack of structure you've come to tolerate. So until next time, I'm Rupert, reminding you that this has been the MT Alternative Podcast, where nostalgia is strong, facts are flexible, and Mike and Tom will see you next week. Assuming they can agree on what year it is. Good night, happy holidays. And please, don't let them do math on air again.