The MT Alternative Podcast
The MT Alternative Podcast is where music nostalgia meets sarcasm, humor, and the occasional political rant. Mike and Tom revisit the past, argue about the present, and never take themselves too seriously.
The MT Alternative Podcast
We Race Through The Final Three Years Of The Eighties And Admit We Still Can’t Remember What Happened When
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Three years. Zero restraint. We dive headfirst into 1987, 1988, and 1989—the final rumble of the Eighties—where U2, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Guns N’ Roses, Madonna, and N.W.A battled for airtime while movies like Die Hard, Batman, and When Harry Met Sally reset what a blockbuster could be. It’s a season finale recorded on a strangely warm Christmas Eve porch in North Carolina, complete with the usual laughter, side quests, and uncomfortable truths about who really bought those neon cheese balls.
We sort through the top albums and singles that dominated radio and memory, then challenge the idea of “one‑hit wonders” by calling out the bands that never fit the label. Expect detours into snack history—Crystal Pepsi, Planters’ glowing cheese balls, ecto‑cooler—and the infamous fads that filled every mall: acid‑wash denim, shoulder pads, stirrup pants, and bucket hats. We also revisit the headlines that stuck: the Max Headroom signal hijack, the Exxon Valdez spill, and the ’89 Bay Area earthquake that stopped the World Series mid‑breath. On TV, The Simpsons went from sketch to institution as Seinfeld launched quietly and Baywatch sprinted down the beach, setting up a new era of pop culture touchstones.
Sports fans get quick hits from Giants‑Broncos to 49ers‑Bengals, Lakers dominance, and Gretzky’s seismic move to LA. Through it all, we’re honest about what we loved, what we skipped, and why these years still punch above their weight. To cap it off, we tease season three: a looser, artist‑driven format with sharper takes, deeper dives, and the same refusal to stay neatly on topic.
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Season Finale Setup & Porch Banter
SPEAKER_05Welcome to the MT Alternative Podcast. I'm Rupert. This week, Mike and Tom are attempting to cover 1987, 1988, and 1989, the final loud, confusing years of the 1980s. Music, movies, pop culture, and whatever else they vaguely remember from back then. There will be great albums, terrible fashion, and absolutely no agreement on what happened in which year. This also marks Mike and Tom's final episode of the year and the end of this season, which feels appropriate, all things considered. Today's episode is brought to you by MemoryFoam, because Mike and Tom clearly don't have one. Lower your expectations. This is the MT Alternative Podcast.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is. It's a wonderful day on the porch. We are here in Western North Carolina foothills on Christmas Eve. There's four and a half inches of snow on the ground. Nope. The wind's blow. Oh.
SPEAKER_00I think we're about a 72 degree.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's 72 degrees. Are you kidding me? Christmas Eve day. Are you kidding me? This is I'm in shorts and short sleeves. It's ridiculous, though. So last week we were here. I had a coat, a hoodie. A little breezy. Man, this is just extraordinary weather, Mike. It's just wonderful. I'm loving it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's take advantage of it while we can.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Something tells me the freaking floor is gonna fall through.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But hey. I think next Friday it's not supposed to be 38 over 38 or something like that. But it's winter. Come on.
SPEAKER_00Good with the bad, but so you took a little trip yesterday. Oh yes, I did. Again.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Had to go see my ancestors, the Indians. Yeah. Okay. Pow pow Indians.
SPEAKER_00Oh, not the 7-Eleven.
SPEAKER_01Oh, no, no, no. Okay, cool. I could stay here and see them.
SPEAKER_00Excellent.
SPEAKER_01And oh, yeah. I I did a few purchases and and uh explored, and it was wonderful again.
SPEAKER_00So you brought some back to uh sample.
SPEAKER_01I did. I did. And what do you think? Much appreciated. There you go.
SPEAKER_00Much appreciated.
SPEAKER_01It was a little different than the last that I'd ended up with, but this is always good to try different. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Always. Except when you're married. No, yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. No.
SPEAKER_01No, no. But uh yeah, we had a great couple days. We we took off and just went and done our Christmas shopping and got everybody together. And now I think this afternoon we're gonna all get together somewhere and exchange gifts and sing hubaya and yeah, around the fire and yeah, just something one of them things.
SPEAKER_00That's cool. I'll be sitting here with the lovely wife. Yeah. Probably on well, who am I kidding? I'll probably be back out here on the porch. It's freaking nice out.
SPEAKER_01I'm telling you, it's just so beautiful out here. I mean, it's just nice.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's uh fill everybody in on what we'll be doing. Yeah. Different a little different. This will be our last podcast for this season. Yep. Where you know, Tom and I have been going through the years on music, our little journey. And uh we're shortening it up this time. We're going 87, 88, and 89. We're combining the three years. There'll be no pip and squeak.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they did their deal last time.
SPEAKER_00They did their deal is right. Yeah, boy. Anyway. Yeah, anyways, but uh that's what we'll be
Plan For Covering 1987–1989
SPEAKER_00going through. So let's start that off. Yeah. We'll start off with the top albums from those years.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, top albums.
SPEAKER_00All right. So we'll start with 1987, Tom.
Top Albums Of 1987–1989
SPEAKER_00Okay. Top albums this year. These are the top albums we got through Billboard, Rolling Stone, all that. So not ours. Yeah. Just a list of the top albums from those years. I guess from everybody that bought or listened to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00All right, we got number one, or not number one, not in any order here. Just the first one I'm reading. Joshua Tree by U2. I guess it dominated the charts for weeks, it says. Yeah, not my uh cup of tea.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm not a U2 fan.
SPEAKER_00Not at all. Uh Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi. No, I've got into that. Says the year's best performer on Billboard, but yeah, Bon Jovi. I get into that. Whitney Houston. Whitney was the name of the album. Right. Uh she was uh 11 weeks at number one. It's hard. It is, it's very true. Uh, we got Bad by Michael Jackson. Bad. And I guess many hits came off that album. Oh, yeah. Then he we had Appetite for Destruction by Guns N' Roses. Oh, good.
SPEAKER_01It broke through.
SPEAKER_00That was it was different.
SPEAKER_01It was a different thing.
SPEAKER_00And uh we figure from the hairbands and then Guns N' Roses kind of took it a different way, which more garage type style rocked as far as I'm concerned. It was recorded.
SPEAKER_01At that point it was. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. 88 we had uh the top albums were Hysteria by Def Leppard.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Def Leppard was big back then.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Rattle and Hum by U2. Oh I guess they just didn't go away.
SPEAKER_01No. They had a big movie.
SPEAKER_00They blended live and studio tracks on Rattle and Hum. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01I thought they did a big movie or some stupid crap back then.
SPEAKER_00That was I think that was it. Rattle and Hum.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Might have been.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, Tracy Chapman by Tracy Chapman. Oh, yeah. She's uh she has a fast car. Uh We had Faith by George Michael.
SPEAKER_01But you gotta have faith. Okay.
SPEAKER_00All right. Straight out of Compton by NWA.
SPEAKER_01Well, I can do that.
SPEAKER_00You can? Actually, that was a pretty good album. I wasn't into that genre of music, but I didn't mind that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I wouldn't mind.
SPEAKER_00It was different. All right, 89 top albums. Back to the Future 2, part two soundtrack. Gotta get back it. But seriously, by Phil Collins. It was a ballad heavy seller. Oh.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't even know it.
SPEAKER_00All right. We got The Raw and The Cooked by the Fine Young Cannibals.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. The Raw. It drives me crazy.
SPEAKER_00It drives me. Like a Prayer by Madonna. Just like a prayer. Oh yeah. Madonna. We have Pump by Aerosmith. Aerosmith's little comeback. Yeah. Woo. Yep. So any any uh comments on any of that?
SPEAKER_01Well, not necessarily.
SPEAKER_00I can be honest. It might have all been big albums, but I can tell you right now, a lot of them I didn't listen to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I didn't really buy any. But I can tell you in 1987, that is when I met and married my wife. Some other lady? Yep. Okay. Yep, that was her. And 88 is when my son was born. So all this music is just rattling this stuff back.
SPEAKER_00Like the little soundtrack of that that time there.
SPEAKER_01That time frame is just there's so much that you can't really round it into any kind of genre. Oh, this was my favorite. This it was all good at that point.
SPEAKER_00Not all, but a lot of it was most of it was good. You're correct. Well, let's go to the uh top singles from those years, shall we?
Hit Singles Roundup And Reactions
SPEAKER_00Sure. Move on. All right. 87 top singles. Walk like an Egyptian. Bengals.
SPEAKER_01Oh, oh, sorry. Well, we did most of the time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we were young. What the hell? Alone by heart. Are you okay? I'm alone. No, no, no. Alone. Now you got me. Okay, Shake You Down by Gregory Abbott. I guess it was a smooth RB standout. It was. I guess I'd have to hear it.
SPEAKER_01Smooth operator. Nope, nope. Wrong one. Oh no.
SPEAKER_00I'll say, I want to dance with somebody. I want to dance. Whitney Houston. Somebody. And Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now by Starship. Well, sure is better than we built this city.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You didn't.
SPEAKER_00No, no. Not with that lame ass song. Okay. 88 top singles. Faith by George Michael. But you gotta have faith. Need you tonight by NXS. I need you tonight.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that one.
SPEAKER_00Get my mind set on you by George Harrison.
SPEAKER_02I got my mind set on you.
SPEAKER_00Oh, here we go. The guy I always thought was black. It was Rick Asley. Never gonna give you up. I'm never gonna let you down. Never gonna let you. And her chew. We had Sweet Child of Mine by Guns N' Roses. Oh yeah, there they are.
SPEAKER_01Oh, oh we have a dog. That likes Guns N' Roses, evidently.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay. We understand. Thank you. Good deal. Alright, now in 1989 top singles. Look away by Chicago.
SPEAKER_01Look away. Look away.
SPEAKER_00Alright, My Prerogative by Bobby Brown. Lots of people talking, talking to me. Just let me live. Okay.
SPEAKER_01What was his deal anyway? Uh he liked drugs. Yeah, Bobby.
SPEAKER_00And he fucked up Whitney Houston.
SPEAKER_01I remember. Never mind. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Allegedly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Okay. My prerog. Oh, we already said that. Every rose has its thorn by poison. Every rose. I was trying to find it. Said something mad about the songs. I made some comment and he's like, That's me and my wife's song. I'm like, Are you and your wife broken up? What the hell do you mean that's your song?
SPEAKER_01Oh no.
SPEAKER_00Straight up by Paula Dool. Straight up now. Tell me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was straight up when I watched her. Of course you did. Wow.
SPEAKER_00You weren't a normal male if you didn't. No doubt. All right, give it up by Casey and the Sunshine Man.
SPEAKER_01Give it up. Baby, give it up. Na na na na na na ma ma. Okay.
SPEAKER_00That's enough of that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Give it up.
SPEAKER_01Baby, give it up. I'm embarrassed I knew that.
SPEAKER_00I knew it, but did not sing it like I wasn't proud of it like you. So any comments on those?
SPEAKER_01I think I've said enough.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. You sang enough?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Anyway.
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Weird Snacks Of 1987
SPEAKER_00back. Yeah, there you go. Excellent. All right, Tom. Yes, sir. Before we get back into our years of notables and music and everything else. Right. Something we used to do, we don't do much of anymore. Yeah. Yeah, we used to do strange snacks, strange this, strange that. Yeah, ice cream flavors. Yeah. Since we're on 87, 88, and 89, we're going to break it down by year. Okay. So I'm going to start off with 87 Strange Snacks from 87. Bring it on. Alrighty. We have uh first one, Crystal Pepsi. Crystal Pepsi. Yep. Not officially launched until the early 90s, but clear coal experiments were already floating around in 87. Nothing says future like soda that looks like Sprite but tastes like Pepsi in confusion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was dumb. That was dumb. It was stupid. There, have clear Pepsi. What the hell? How stupid was it that I ended up buying one just to see? Yeah. Stupid. Oh, well, here it did what it was supposed to. It made us all buy one, dumbasses.
SPEAKER_00Oh well, hey. Anyway. All right. So we have here's a favorite of mine, and I'm sure yours. Pudding pops. Oh, yeah. But what was in them? Pudding. Yeah. Jell-O pudding pops were huge, but in 87 companies started pushing weird flavor extensions. Banana, butterscotch, and vanilla swirl. That tasted like a freezer burned science project. I gotta admit, the banana ones weren't bad.
SPEAKER_01They weren't bad. The chocolate chocolate on the ball. Oh my gosh. Why do they not have pudding pops anymore, Tom? I don't know. We're gonna have to give research that. We're gonna have to.
SPEAKER_00Maybe everybody likes it. Let's take it away. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, maybe it could have been. We got a favorite here of Pips. Uh-oh. Yeah. The Kebler Magic Middles. Oh my goodness. That's gonna start a war.
SPEAKER_01Well, Pip likes the Keebler elves. Yeah, Pip does. But they're all right. They're good little guys, man. Yeah, Skip.
SPEAKER_00Anyway. Okay, shortbread cookies stuffed with chocolate or peanut butter. Yeah. Marketed like wizardry. Delicious, yes. But also unsettling. No one asked where the filling came from.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, where did it come from?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, squeeze can have fun with that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Why is this guy riding around the block?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this guy's like, what are they doing?
SPEAKER_00One of our fans.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. They're trying. Why don't they just come up and ask us for it?
SPEAKER_00We're on air right now, so be kind of rude of them. Yeah. All right. How about fruit wrinkles? Because raisins needed trauma. Fruit wrinkles. Fruit snacks that look like deflated gummy roadkill. Marketed as natural, but tasted like a chemistry set with sugar. Oh my lord. I never heard of a fruit wrinkles. Never heard of fruit wrinkles. Oh, wait a minute here. Here's one of Mike's favorites. Hostess Choco Bliss. Oh, the Choco Bliss. Chocolate cake, fudge filling, chocolate icing. And regret. There was never any regret. No regret. Pulled from shells because even the 1980s said this is excessive. Fuck you, 1980s. Yeah, the 80s.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna make you healthy, boys.
SPEAKER_00All right. Uh number six, the high sea ectocooler. Ghost approved nutrition. Bright green, vaguely citrus, and endorsed by Ghostbusters. Contained approximately 0% fruit and 100% radioactive optimism.
SPEAKER_01Slime. Yumi. Hey, can I have that? Sure, yeah, give him stuff.
SPEAKER_00Stuff. Yeah. All right, number seven, we have Pringles, New Fangled Flavors. Yeah. Late 80s, Pringles started experimenting hard with pizza, sour cream, overload, and flavors that tasted nothing like food, but everything like powdered ambition.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. Just sprinkle shit on it and call it something. Cheeseburger, macaroni and probably had that macaroni and cheese.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dumbass bacon cheeseburger. Carnation breakfast bars. Dessert and denial. Chocolate bars pretended to be breakfast. If you ate one before school, adults called it nutrition. If you ate two, it was your fault. Yeah, no doubt. I like that carnation. I didn't break them to drink.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I didn't mine them.
SPEAKER_00It wasn't too bad. Shit's expensive now, though, man. Yeah. Alright, diet everything. Diet Coke was king, but 87 brought diet snacks that remove flavor instead of calories. Same guilt, less joy.
SPEAKER_01That reminds me. When I used to drive for a company, I guess I can say their name. They're not in business anymore. Schwanz. Schwans, yeah. They had popcorn, okay? Okay. Then they came out with light popcorn, which was just a half a bag of popcorn. It was a smaller bag. And it didn't have any salt in it. That was all it was. Usually it's the same, but no butter. Yeah, nothing. I mean, just but it will they half the can it was just a half a bag, is all.
SPEAKER_00That's disappointing to hear.
SPEAKER_01It was. That that was the only thing that really stood out to me that they really messed up on was that. The popcorn.
SPEAKER_00Why would they do that? People are idiots, that's why. All right. And then number 10 was cheese balls and industrial drums. Yeah, you could go to like Sam's Club, Costco, BJ's wholesale club.
SPEAKER_01Get these big barrels of great big shit.
SPEAKER_00Let's see. Not new, but 87, they came in containers large enough to survive nuclear fallout. Once opened, they were legally your personality. Yep. Okay, I remember. Let's see. So what I did, Tom, is I looked for what the good stuff was in those. Right. And the to the bad stuff. Okay. We'll start off with the good.
SPEAKER_01All right. Let's hear what the good is.
SPEAKER_00Surprisingly good. High C ectocooler. Bright, citrusy, neon green, and perfect for kids pretending to be ghostbusters. Totally weird, but oddly delicious. Number two, pudding pops.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Smooth, creamy, and fun to eat. Banana and butterscotch were questionable, but vanilla swirl was solid. Number three is the Keebler magic middles. Chocolate plus shortbread, basically timeless. Slightly unsettling that the filling was magically mysterious.
SPEAKER_01It's magically mysterious.
SPEAKER_00But tasty nonetheless. Where did that fudge come from? Yeah. And number four, fruit wrinkles. Chewy, fruity, and a little sad looking, but okay if you were desperate for sugar disguises health.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Right. So we both agree, though, we love our pudding pops. Yeah, we do love it. And I do like the old Key Lorelve cookies, so hey. I'm with Pip on that. All right. Questionable choices. Pringles, new fangled flavors. Pizza and sour cream overload were ambitious. Have you ever ate them? They suck.
SPEAKER_01They're awful.
SPEAKER_00Some flavors work, some taste like powded science experiments. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. Exactly what it's on them.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't. Okay, so the sour cream and onion,
One‑Hit Wonders That Weren’t
SPEAKER_01you think, okay, I'm gonna get these because I like sour cream and onion potato chips. They didn't taste like it did not taste anything like that at all.
SPEAKER_00Like it pretended to be. They were pretending.
SPEAKER_01It tasted like a damn onion farted in my mouth.
SPEAKER_00Wow. That's quite the description.
SPEAKER_01Well, there you go. Okay. Don't buy those, or you'll have that description in your mouth.
SPEAKER_00Well, idiots don't buy them. Okay, moving on. Carnation breakfast bars. Not bad. Chocolate pretending to be breakfast, decent on flavor, terrible on credibility. Could ruin mornings with sugar crap.
SPEAKER_01I get it. Shit your what? Sugar crashes. Oh, I thought sugar. Shit your pants. Oh, oh, sugar crashes. I thought you said shit your pants.
SPEAKER_00Diet everything, snacks, remove from flavor again. Okay. Okay, here's some snacks that the FDA should have intervened on. Yes. Crystal Pepsi. Clear soda is psychologically confusing. It looked like water, tasted like cola, and should have come with a warning label. Yeah, weird. Oh man. My hostess Choco Bliss. Chocolate cake, fudge icing. What's wrong with that? It's like a sugar bomb detonating your mouth. Exactly. Exactly. Delicious, but morally questionable. I never questioned it at all. I wanted more. What the frick, man? So that's the only reason they get rid of it. Too much sugar. Please. All right, number 10. We got the cheese balls and then industrial drums again. Neon orange, dust everywhere. Impossible to stop eating. Fun for 10 minutes. Regrettable for 10 days. Should have had a federal oversight committee. Oh, no doubt. Oh, like hey, that's moving on to that.
SPEAKER_01That's funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we haven't done that stuff in a while, Tom. Nope. So let's get back into our 87, 88, and 89 bullshit. Yeah. How about one hit wonders? One hit wonders. Everybody likes a good one-hit wonder.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do they?
SPEAKER_01But was there a one-hit wonder in the 80s? Everybody in the 80s was a big band.
SPEAKER_00As long as I looked over, they called one hit wonders, and maybe that song was, but it's questionable. But let's let's go through the list here. Okay. Start with 1987. All right. We got a song here by the cutting crew. I just died in your arms. I just died in your arms tonight. Must have been something you said.
SPEAKER_01I didn't say anything. Oh.
SPEAKER_00Why am I dying? In my arms. Why? Why am I in your arms? Okay, let's move on. Okay, we have La Bamba by Los Lomos. I didn't know Los. I didn't know that was a one-hit wonder. Yeah, they did a lot. Pretty poison. Catch me, I'm falling. Boop boop boop boop ba doo. Catch me now. I had no idea who that was. Yeah, unfortunately, I do. Oh. Okay, so let's move on to the right track by The Breakfast Club. Oh, The Breakfast Club. I know who that is.
SPEAKER_01You do? Yeah, Emilio Estevez and all them other guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think it's a band called The Breakfast Club, not the movie, the cast of the movie The Breakfast Club, Tom. Oh. Yeah. All right. Why do they want to confuse me? Because it's easy to do, buddy. Oh. All right. And the last one we have is Hutt Hut Hut by Buster Poindexter. The same guy from uh New York Dolls. New York Dolls. Yep. I don't know what his name was there, I forget. David Johannes. Yeah. That's it. All right. 1988 one hit wonders. Heart and Soul by T Pow. Leave a little bit of Heart and Soul. Yeah, I know the song, but who in the heck is that? Some group from 1988, Tom says it right here. I'm reading it. Okay. New wave track that hit high on the charts. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I knew your song, but I didn't know.
SPEAKER_00If I hit that little two there. Oh, it gives me more information. Oh, more information. Honorable mention. Oh, that's 1979. Yeah, we don't want to. We're not in that anymore. We're gone. Okay, we got the promise by. Here we go. Here's a band everybody knows. When in Rome.
SPEAKER_01Okay, what's the band's name? When in Rome. Okay. When I'm in Rome, what is their name? When in Rome.
SPEAKER_00Okay. This is a goal. The name of the band is When in Rome. That's stupid. It is stupid. All right. How about if we go to Stand Back by the group Berlin? Stand Back. Nope, that's not it. You're thinking of Fleetwood Mac. Oh, yeah. That's by Berlin. Berlin's not a one-hit wonder. Maybe the song was a. No, I don't understand that. How about Roll With It by Stevie Winwood? That's not a one-hit wonder. Yeah. You got to roll with it.
SPEAKER_01He had many hits.
SPEAKER_00He did. Okay. But there's And he was with the band Traffic, I believe. I think that's Yeah, back in the day, yeah. Okay, next one is opportunities. Make like let's make lots of money by the pet shop boys. Okay. Okay, it says U.S. one hit perception. What the hell that means? I do not know.
SPEAKER_01It means that U.S. has one hit perception.
SPEAKER_00So you're just rolling with it or just roll with it, baby. All right. I think you should stand back and let me go to the next one. Stand back. All right. 1989 one hit wonders. Beds are burning by midnight oil.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, if you got oil in bed, they're gonna be burning, dumbass.
SPEAKER_00These people aren't thinking too bright. They're not they're not too bright. Nope. Let's light this bed on fire. Wait a minute. I have midnight oil. We're trying to heat the room. No, no, no. Idiots. All right. How about Buffalo Stance by Nena Cherry? They'd like to stand in a buffalo stance. That was the dumbest damn song. That was a good song, man.
SPEAKER_01I didn't care for it. That was a good song.
SPEAKER_00Who's that standing there? Oh, in the street.
SPEAKER_01Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00All right, how about bust a move? Yeah. All right. How about waiting for a star to fall? Boy. Here's a band name. Boy meets girl.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00I have questions. We have Boy Meets Girl Band, right? We have When in Rome. Are these people idiots? Well, they have a name. They couldn't even. Call yourself Tree or something, I don't know. Anything.
SPEAKER_01Stick. Railing. Any command. Step. Boy meets girl. Girl. Okay. So what's the name of the band? How about boy meets boy? That would go good with nowadays.
SPEAKER_00Nowadays it would, yeah. Or I don't know what it is, but I don't know what it is. Anyways, moving on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we better.
SPEAKER_00Second chance by 38 Special.
SPEAKER_01I like that one too.
SPEAKER_00That's a good song.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and 38 Special doesn't have like one hit wonders either. It doesn't? I don't think so. All their stuff is good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't get that either, though. Unless you're telling them about but the song doesn't matter. They're not one-hit wonders. Exactly. It's very confusing. Very, very confusing. But we know different. We do. Now, Buffalo Stance, as much as I like that song, too. I can understand that being that. And Bust the Move by Young MC. Haven't heard anything else from him. Right. So a lot of these Midnight Oil was another one. Deads of Burning. What did you hear from Midnight Oil? Well, I guess once you burned everything, nothing left to sing about it.
SPEAKER_01If you burn the bridge, it's gone. You can't get back. The band is done.
SPEAKER_00Well, you guys fucked up. Yep. Oops. All right. So we're going to take another little pause here for another little commercial.
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SPEAKER_00And we're back again. All right. So uh one hit wonders were kind of confusing on some of that shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a little bit.
SPEAKER_00But uh all right. We're gonna move on now to 1988.
Weird Snacks Of 1988
SPEAKER_00Weird and strange snacks.
SPEAKER_01Weird strange snacks.
SPEAKER_00Number one on our list here is not our list, there's lists we looked up. We had Dunkin' Donuts snack and minis. Are you interested to know what a snack and mini is? Uh kind of it's a tiny packaged donut holes. Wait a minute. Mark marketed as fun snack. Oh, there we go with the fun snack shit again, like fun size.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Tiny package. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What are they trying to say? Two balls in this little package. Wait a minute. What are you trying to say there, Duncan? All right. Weirdness factor individually packaged donut holes for on-the-go eating because apparently you needed tiny donuts everywhere.
SPEAKER_01Of course we do.
SPEAKER_00Don't we have munchkins now? You get a box of them.
SPEAKER_01What a freaking Cheerio is.
SPEAKER_00All right, number two. Taco Bell's Taco Bell snackers. Taco Bell snackers. Mini Tacos in pre-packaged trays for a quick snack. Don't remember that. Oh, since I've never eaten at a Taco Bell, I won't remember. I won't even know what the hell it is. A strange twist. They were designed more as a snack than a meal. And the texture suffered in the packaging. Kind of like crunchy taco chips in a taco form.
SPEAKER_01Oh. No, don't remember that.
SPEAKER_00Don't sound memorable either. How about uh Orbitz Beverage? Orbitz.
SPEAKER_01I kind of remember those drinks.
SPEAKER_00Clear soda with floating gel spears that did dissolve.
SPEAKER_01And you drank those? Well, I didn't drink them. I just said I remembered them.
SPEAKER_00Oh. Very 1988. Bizarrely futuristic, kind of gross and extremely eye-catching.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, extremely.
SPEAKER_00Did you shit out these little I don't know? I think they dissolved. It says uh spears that didn't dissolve. Oh shit. I don't even think the stomach acid probably get rid of that shit. It's okay.
SPEAKER_01That's probably why I didn't drink it. I was drinking a lot of south paw back then.
SPEAKER_00Here we go drinking all kinds of shit that we drank, and we never tried something like that.
SPEAKER_01Nope. I remember drinking a lot of south paw back then.
SPEAKER_00All right. Chips Ahoy. Fun dip cookies. Chips, chips, chips. Cookies partially dipped in a flavored icing. Flavors were sometimes outrageous, like grape or lime. It was an attempt to make cookies snacky. Well, cookies are snacky. What do you give me? Make them snack. Snackable beyond a standard chocolate chip. If I want a chocolate chip, I don't want lime. Yeah, I don't want lime chips.
SPEAKER_01Chocolate chip. I want a chocolate chip, stupid. Stupid freaking snap that one. That's what I'm trying to tell you. These these Keebler elves, they're dumb. That has nothing to do. That's chips ahoy.
SPEAKER_00Nothing to do with the Keebler elves. See, they're on top of the game. All right. How about planters' cheese balls?
SPEAKER_01Okay. I've ate a lot of cans of those.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Why would you buy planters' cheese balls and you could buy the big industrial frickin' bucket of cheese balls cheaper? Yeah, but back to the cheese balls.
SPEAKER_01Back then you couldn't.
SPEAKER_00What do you mean? We just read 87, you could. Now we're in 88. No, I'm talking about the big industrial 87, you could. We just read that. Are you not listening to the podcast we're doing? Sure. I just went over where you could buy them, cost us, Sam's. Yeah, Sam's. Okay, so now we're in 88, and you're saying, well, planters, but because you couldn't plant them that way. You could buy them that way.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm just saying, not at that point, because planters took it over.
SPEAKER_00No. No, no. That's not true at all. Cheese balls have been around, Tom. Well, I know they've been around.
SPEAKER_01Big containers. But I don't remember the balls.
SPEAKER_00Planters just wanted to put their little name on something. Yeah. Extra strangeness. Yeah. Some versions were neon orange almost glowing in the dark. Kids were mesmerized. That's every damn cheese ball.
SPEAKER_01That peanut, he had a monocle, like the Mongolian monocle.
SPEAKER_00That was just so idiots would pay more money. Like you. But it was good. It's in a planter's. Oh, that must be better. It was.
SPEAKER_01It was fresher.
SPEAKER_00Oh, God. All right. How about MM's crispy? Who? No. A prequel to the official 1990 launch. Some test markets got crispy MMs in '88. I didn't like them. They were strange to peanut and plain MM fans. Chocolate with a rice crunch center. Basically, I've had those. They sucked. Yeah. How about Skittle Sour? No. I like sour shit.
SPEAKER_01I like sour crap.
SPEAKER_00But well, no, I like sour. Oh, I guess we said the same. I like sour shit. We don't like crapper shit at all.
SPEAKER_01No, it's just sour stuff. It's just stuff we say. But I don't care for Skittles at all. Sour or not.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so you're not a Skittles fan. Not really. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Just that's me.
SPEAKER_00Your tongue might have felt assaulted, but it paved the way for the sour craves of the 90s.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00How about hostess snack cakes and odd flavors?
SPEAKER_01Look at my belly. Of course I enjoyed that.
SPEAKER_00Beyond the classic ho ho's. Hostess tried mini cakes in flavors like banana, lemon, and even peanut butter swirl. Strange because who thought banana and lemon should be a dessert snack flavor in mass production? Not me.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Not lemon. Okay, next one. Jell-O gelatin snacks. Gelatin snacks? Pre-packaged single-served gelatin cups with bizarre shit. Sometimes made with dual layers and flavors and colors. Yeah, sure. Kids' weird fascination. Squishy, wobbling, fruity cubes with names like Wiggily Wonders.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the Wiggly Wonders. I remember those. Isn't that what you name your? Oh, never mind. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00See, I I remember is the Wiggly Wonder. Okay. High C doodle Dot snack.
SPEAKER_01I call him that too.
SPEAKER_00Tiny, colorful candy cake. No, wait, but market it with cartoon mascots. You have little tattoos on it, do you? Yeah, Elvis. They were a bit like mixed between candy and drinkable food experience. A confusing slack identity. Alrighty, and last but not least, Tom, we have the uh bonus weirdness, Pringles Stacker Packs. The stacker pack. Aren't Pringles stacked already? Pretty much, yes, they are. They'll fit nicely in that little can. Yeah, the can. In a pack. What it is, well, let me tell you what it is. Pre-stacked mini Pringles in tiny tubes. Tiny tubes. Tiny tubes. Why it's weird. Because opening a bag and stacking them yourself was apparently too much effort. Uh huh. Bring a monocle for full snack sophistication. No, we're not going with that monocle. Oh, oh. Mongolia monocle? Yeah, the Mongolia monocle. Nope. Look it up, folks. Don't look it up. Yep. So, anyways, back to our original broadcasting. Okay.
Strange News Stories 1987–1989
SPEAKER_00So let's uh we've we've done uh I got some strange stories from the years, Tom. Yeah. Strange story. 1987. Oh, I remember this too. Uh the story, anyways. Max Headroom's signal hijacket in Chicago saw a TV broadcast interrupted by a mass figure ranting incoherently, including being spanked on air. Aww. The perpetrator remains unidentified. Unidentified. What a find out on YouTube. You can look that up on YouTube. It's freaking funny. Yeah, that's hilarious. Okay, a New York garbage barge towed 3,000 tons of trash, wandered the Atlantic for weeks after being rejected by multiple ports, sparking national waste disposal debates. Nope. You're not bringing that shit over here. Nope, not here either. Move on. Keep it going. Just keep floating around. Yeah. Wonder how much of that ended up in the ocean. Oh boy. Yeah. All right. During a live LA news segment, a man pulled a gun on reporter David Horowitz and a staged consumer stunt gone wrong. Terrifying viewers.
SPEAKER_01Oh my God. It was staged and I am confused. It was terrifying. What? What the hell? What'd they say?
SPEAKER_001988 Strange Stories. The Circus Maximus incident involved a deranged man in Florida releasing exotic animals like lions and tigers onto highways. Causing chaos and shutdowns. I don't remember that. I don't either. I'm gonna have to look that up. That sounds pretty interesting. Yeah. That could be a podcast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, was that the Lion King or what was he?
SPEAKER_00Tiger King.
SPEAKER_01Tiger King releasing things out in the Florida. Well, anyway.
SPEAKER_00Okay, uh Soviet submarine collision with a Norwegian fishing boat led to underwater espionage accusations amid Cold War tensions with bizarre debris washing ashore. Well, I wonder what kind of bizarre debris was washing ashore.
SPEAKER_01Hale beads.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well, I wonder if Squeak was around. All right. In Britain, the Phantom Flusher prankster systematically flushed public toilets nationwide, baffling plumbers and becoming a tabloid sensation. Okay, wait. Sure, go ahead, Tom. What'd they call him?
SPEAKER_01They called him the Phantom Flusher. Phantom Flusher. Okay. First off, if I want to be evil, that's not what I want my major. I know. Yeah, that's dumb. What the heck?
unknownI am the phantom.
SPEAKER_01Who is he?
SPEAKER_00That's the Phantom Flusher.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, no, no. Don't flush my toilet. No, not the tidy bowl. No, please. Oh my God. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
SPEAKER_00Well, imagine if that was your name, though. The Phantom Flusher. All right, 1989. The Exxon Valdez oil spill created surreal scenes of oil-coated otters and birds marching like zombies on Alaska beaches, one of the worst environmental disasters. That's true. That was true. Yeah. Dawn. Dawn dish detergent. Claimed them all right up. Yep. All right. A man in California claimed to be from the future, predicting events with eerie accuracy. In viral interviews before vanishing, fueling time travel rumors. I don't remember that one. I don't either. This could be another podcast. That could be something. Very interesting. How about the balloon boy? Oh yeah. Precursor hoax. Parents fake the child's flight in a homemade balloon. Prefiguring later scandals or beat the card.
SPEAKER_01They were crazy idiots.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the dumbass family.
SPEAKER_01Hey, they got their 15 minutes of fame.
SPEAKER_00Well, they certainly did, Tom. They certainly did. Yeah. So that was some strange ass freaking stories there, man.
SPEAKER_01Boy, I remember some of that.
SPEAKER_00All right. So how about if we uh go through the years in regrettable fads, Tom? Sure, something you'll enjoy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I have some regrettable fads. Not fads. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh. Not Phillip or Dean.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. All right. Guys. All right. Um, excessive lace everything, from headbands to leggings, layered over skirts, inspired by Madonna's style. These are 1987 regrettable fads. Legging. Acid wash jeans. Hey, I had a couple pairs of those.
SPEAKER_01I did have some acid wash jeans.
SPEAKER_00Oversized sweaters. Creating bulky silhouettes, neon scrunchies, and every hairdoof, clashing with big perms. Not mine. All right. 1988 regrettable fads. Power blazers with massive shoulder pads. Mimicking football players for authority. Yes. How about fanny packs? Born high in the waist as an edgy streetwear. See a guy, a man with those now. Yep. I have mine. Yeah, you little fanny pack. Yeah. Oh, yeah, three, you little thilly. All right. Stir up pants tucked under the high heels. Distorted leg shapes unflatteringly. Only with my fanny pack. Hello. Okay. 1989 regrettable fads. Blazers. Styled as mini dresses with nothing underneath, pushing power suits to absurdity. Okay, wait a minute. Blazers, a jacket. Styled has a mini dresses. With nothing underneath.
SPEAKER_01What's wrong with this?
SPEAKER_00Nothing's wrong with that at all. Well, it depends on who's wearing it. If it's a dude, I don't want to see that. Yeah, your balls are showing. I don't want to see that either. Yeah, me too. Okay. Me too. How about bucket hats and floral
Regrettable Late‑80s Fashion Fads
SPEAKER_00valore? Floppy and mismatched with casual outfits. Bucket hats. I have a Patriot bucket hat somewhere.
SPEAKER_01People are still doing that shit. Yeah. The 1980s tracksuit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Alright. So I guess we're gonna go into one more commercial and then we'll uh end this on some uh other notables out of music, pretty much. Yeah. So we'll be right back.
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SPEAKER_00And Tom, I gotta say one thing. Where the hell do we find these sponsors? What the hell can the ads of these? What the anyway. Yeah. Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah, exactly. So uh where were we? Notables. We're gonna start with uh Notables. Notables. Let's see, let's start with movies, Tom, from 1987.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I remember my no, no, actually I don't.
SPEAKER_00No, that's not yeah, let's not bring that up again. All right, uh Metal Jacket. Oh yeah. Great movie.
SPEAKER_01One of the closest, I guess, Vietnam movies. Probably. Out there.
SPEAKER_00Probably. The Untouchables. Oh. Sean Connery in that?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I believe so. Uh Lethal Weapon.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Lethal Weapon.
SPEAKER_00Great movie.
SPEAKER_01All of them. I love them.
SPEAKER_00The Predator. That's another great movie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Arnold.
SPEAKER_00Chomping on cigars with that big ass frickin' gun. Robocop. Another good movie.
SPEAKER_01Another good movie. Paul, what's his name? Paul Ballis? No.
SPEAKER_00Pretty much is. He's a RoboCop now. He's got no balls anymore. He's just his fucking head stuffed up there. Right. It makes sense.
SPEAKER_01He kind of does.
SPEAKER_00How about dirty dancing? Nobody puts baby in the corner. Okay, you pedophile.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we have to do that.
SPEAKER_00Wall Street. Ah. Charlie Sheen. Greed is good. Enters a chat. Fatal attraction. Nutjobs. Ooh. Why is the little bunny rabbit in the boiling water? Who put that there?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, who I wonder what's going on.
SPEAKER_00All right. How about 1987 TV? The Simpsons debuted. Oh, The Simpsons. Yes, I remember from the Tracy Ullman show, too, little shorts. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, here's one of how do how do they figure out? How did the Simpsons figure out everything that was gonna happen before it ever happened?
SPEAKER_00Nostra Dhammas. Ain't that? Just like him. Is he one of their writers? Probably. Well he's probably still around kicking somewhere. Oh boy. Here we go, Tom. Married with Children premieres.
SPEAKER_01That was a great awesome show.
SPEAKER_00Great Al Bundy. Sunday night, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Great show. 10 o'clock. Okay. No, I
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SPEAKER_00think it was on earlier than that. Was it? Yeah. That was 8:39. Right around there. Yeah, wasn't it? Maybe it had been. I don't remember it being. All we know is came on. Yeah. All right. How about uh Star Trek, the next generation premieres? Yeah, I never ever watched it. Either full house debuts.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah. I saw that a couple times.
SPEAKER_00Uh Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle explodes in popularity. My son. Oh my goodness. Yeah, my kids too. Let's see. Oh, sports. Super Bowl 21. Giants beat the Broncos, Tom. Woo-hoo. Anyway. Okay, we're moving on. Major League Baseball Twins win the World Series. NBA Lakers win the championship.
SPEAKER_01Of course they did.
SPEAKER_00And NFL players strike replacement players came in. I remember that. Scabs. Yep. All right. 1988 movies. Die Hard.
Movies, TV, And Sports Highlights 1987
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Rayman. Great movie. Two great movies, right there. Yeah. Who framed Roger Rabbit? Loved that movie too. He played Patty Cake with Jessica Rabbit. Yeah, no doubt. Who wanted it? Me. Me. Beetlejuice. You wanted Beetlejuice? No. Oh. No. You wanted Beetle's juice? Oh well. No. Coming to America. That was a good one.
SPEAKER_01Have you seen part two yet? Yes. That was good.
SPEAKER_00Parts of it. Yeah. Not as good as the first one. Not really. It gets a little distribution. Alright. Coming to America. Yep. The Naked Gun.
SPEAKER_01Naked Gun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, which one were you talking about? The new Beetlejuice or Coming to America? The Coming to America Part 2. No, I haven't. I thought you were talking about Beetlejuice.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, I saw that one also. It wasn't as good as the first. Yeah, you're right about that.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so moving on to Naked Gun, great movie. Yep. Fish Called Wanda. Never watched the whole thing. I never either. I know the movie. You just never caught much. Man, 1988, though. What a year for movies. See, the 80s for movies.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. 80s for anything. 80s was the the yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, everybody says, oh, you old timers going back to the 80s. People had to live in the 80s, even the 70s. You had to live in those ages.
SPEAKER_01You just had to be there before you could understand it. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00All right, 1988 TV. Roseanne premieres. Great TV show. The Wonder Years, Little Winnie Cooper. Murphy Brown. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That was that was a splitting edge show at that time. It was a good show.
SPEAKER_00I watched, I didn't watch it all the time loyally, but I did watch it. It wasn't bad. I think it was she was the first single mother thing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, when she had her kid and all that, right. That was a big thing.
SPEAKER_00America's Most Wanted premiered. And Mystery Science Theater 3000 lost internationally. Yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_01Explaining it. Little explaining deal going on.
SPEAKER_00All right. 88 sports. Oh boy. All right. Super Bowl 22. Here we go. Washington destroys the Broncos. But. Okay, but there's a butt. Tom, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01We were ahead, 10 to nothing at half. Okay. We just beat shit out of them first half.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So. What happened after that? We felt bad. Did you like fall asleep in the locker room? Just felt sorry for him. We felt bad. Trust me. We got our asses kicked by the Bears, and we know. Yeah. Alright, Major League Baseball, Dodgers win the World Series, NBA, Lakers repeat as champs. And 1988 Summer Olympics and Soul Career. Ben Johnson stripped of gold for steroid use.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I remember that.
SPEAKER_00Alright. Moving on to 89, Tom.
SPEAKER_0189.
SPEAKER_00Batman.
SPEAKER_01Robin.
SPEAKER_00No, no, just Batman. Oh.
SPEAKER_01Batman.
SPEAKER_00All right. Then we got Back to the Future 2.
SPEAKER_01Oh, there were two of those. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Three.
SPEAKER_01Three of them. Not that year, though.
SPEAKER_00Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. Oh, yeah. Dead Poet Society. There you go. Yeah. Robin Williams.
SPEAKER_01Yep. That was the last, one of the last movies I watched is.
SPEAKER_00Alright, when Harry Met Sally. Huh? I want what she's having. Anyway. Ghostbusters 2. Ghostbusters. Field of Dreams. That's another good movie. Field of Dreams was. Great movie. All right. 89 TV. The Simpsons premieres is a full series. Simpsons. Seinfeld debuts quietly, very quietly, parentheses. Baywatch premieres. Oh. Yeah, watching the
Movies, TV, And Sports Highlights 1988
SPEAKER_00big old down the beach. I come every time I've been to the beach, I never saw a lifeguard that looks like that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no wonder Raymond or whoever it was didn't do any good. Seinfeld was quiet. No wonder. It was the same time the boobs came on.
SPEAKER_00Ah. How about Saved by the Bell launches? Oh yeah. Tabanga. And cops debuts. Bad boy, bad boy. What you gonna do? What you gonna do? Wee woo, wee woo, wee woo. Okay. 1989 sports, Super Bowl 23. 49ers beat the Bengals. Yeah. A's win the World Series. A's. Oh, that is the year of the earthquake, too, Tom.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the earthquake.
SPEAKER_00Interrupts the games. I remember being at work. I was at Longview Fiber Company. It was a box plant. And I remember listening on the radio when all that happened. Yeah. Uh NBA Pistons win the championship. Wayne Gretzky was traded to the LA Kings. Technically in '88, but impact felt hard in '89. Well, I'm sure it did. Yeah, boy. So that pretty much wraps up some of our notables there. Yeah. That was pretty busy years. That was it. So now we can look forward to our uh new season coming up. We have a new season. We will be discussing music, but it will not be certain years. Tom and I will be kind of bouncing around, picking our favorite artists, our favorite music. Different. And having discussions on that. Yeah, just different times. You know us. We never stay on one topic. No, we never do. Kind of bounce around. Uh, we have our new logo that'll be coming out. Oh, that's what I'm excited about. So yeah, I'm looking forward to that too. So uh y'all keep an eye out for that. Yeah, once again, that's I think the podcast is just gonna be pretty much music oriented and uh typical Tom and Mike bullshit. Yep. Pip and squeak thrown in there. If we dare let them back in the studio.
SPEAKER_01Oh boy. It took a little bit. We had to get some people in here and click on the stuff. Dispect the place. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But anyway. Yeah. Anyways. Well, Tom, it was another great uh good year. It was another great year. Everybody uh as we're saying this, let's see. Well, let's first of all, before we go, let's discuss our teams. Sure. We're both 12-3. Right. Awesome season for both of us, considering where we came from last year. I don't, you know, in the year before for us. I mean, we won a total of eight games in the last two years.
SPEAKER_01So I don't know that we're the total package hit.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I don't think the Patriots are either, but like I said, I'm happy. I was thinking eight, nine games, like I said before. Yep. We get in the playoffs. If we lose, we lose. We made it to the playoffs and just continue that rise. That's all. Yep.
SPEAKER_01And Denver made it to the playoffs last year. However, they never clinched their division, they never clinched anything like they did this year, and it was just an amazing.
SPEAKER_00But let me uh going back on last week's game, though. Yeah. Playing in Denver, Jacksonville scares the shit out of me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they ought to because they're hot right now. Holy crap.
SPEAKER_00They're they're about not just because they beat you guys, they beat you guys in Denver. And defense you have and putting those points off.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but keep this in mind also. It was our first loss at home in 11 games.
SPEAKER_00And you know it's the opposite of the Patriots. We're undefeated on the road this year. Yeah. We lost all three games, we lost at home. Ain't that so seven and oh on the road. Yep. It's crazy. That's why he's like, oh, I go, you know what? Maybe we don't want the number one seed. Maybe the number two seed. Maybe we're better off on the road.
SPEAKER_01Yep, let's stay uh. It is what it is. I mean I'm enjoying the ride. I'm enjoying the ride too. It's been a long, hard ride for us. And you got Josh's team. Yeah, the Panthers are right now.
SPEAKER_00Believe it or not, yes, the divisions aren't that great. But uh doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01Yep, they're still there. They're uh just keep winning. They do get a tough one. They surprised us this year.
SPEAKER_00I mean they do have a tough one with Seattle coming up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they do. They do. But uh I'll be honest with you. That's a game you want to lose, though.
SPEAKER_00And then beat Tampa again, and you're good.
SPEAKER_01Yep, because you just you gotta. I mean, like like Denver. I mean, I was I was ready for a loss. We were we were ready for one. And I'd rather get it now and get it out of our way than wait until the first one and done, you know? Exactly. Don't want that. I mean, we've dominated before and got whipped in the end, and it just we don't like that, so we want it to go different.
SPEAKER_00Well, hopefully it will. Hopefully, both of us, like I said, playoffs when a playoff game makes you even happier. Exactly. Exactly. But uh folks, uh just want to say, Tom, is there anything you wanted to add before we go?
SPEAKER_01I think everything is good. Just I can't believe this beautiful weather. I'm gonna we're gonna have a great Christmas and hope everybody else does too. And as always, we want to thank God for the gift of Gab.
SPEAKER_00All right, everyone. And as we're saying this, it's Christmas Eve now, but we want to wish our next uh episode probably won't come out till just before New Year's. This one will come out right before New Year's. So we want to wish everyone a happy new year.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00And uh while we're at it, too, I hope everybody had a good Christmas. Yes. Take care, everyone. God bless. See you later.
SPEAKER_05And there you have it.
Movies, TV, And Sports Highlights 1989
SPEAKER_05That concludes season two of the MT Alternative Podcast. Mike and Tom have officially said everything they meant to say, and quite a few things they probably shouldn't have. Over the course of this season, they tackled music, culture, nostalgia, politics, and the bold theory that talking longer somehow makes a point stronger. They survived hurricanes, holidays, and each other, no small achievement. Season three is, allegedly, in the works, promising sharper takes, deeper dives, and a same refusal to stay on topic. Until then, this show will be taking a brief break, a pause, a timeout, possibly court-ordered. Thank you for listening to the MT Alternative podcast, where certainty is optional, sarcasm is mandatory, and season two is now mercifully complete.
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