Season Three, Porch Rain, Fresh Chaos

The rain is steady, the porch is alive, and season three kicks off with our favorite kind of chaos: honest laughs, sharp pivots, and a plan to make this the most personal run yet. We start with football—bye weeks, “easy” schedules, and the odd hangover of overseas games—then acknowledge the truth every fan knows: you still have to win the ones in front of you. From wildcard predictions to those late-night Sunday kickoffs that ruin Monday mornings, the NFL talk sets a fast, familiar cadence.

Then we widen the lens. Between jokes about AI-fueled prank videos and comment-section rabbit holes, we detour into a tough moment from Minnesota and talk bluntly about protests, policing, and risk. It’s messy, human, and real—an attempt to put empathy next to responsibility without pretending the answers are simple. That honesty clears the way for a surprisingly tight deep dive: why Greenland isn’t just a headline, it’s a strategy. We break down Arctic shipping lanes, Thule Air Base, rare earth minerals, and the global chess match with Russia and China. The idea had teeth; the delivery needed finesse. Consider this your primer on how geopolitics meets geography—and why the map is changing.

All of it builds toward our big shift this season: moving to a music-first format that follows the songs that changed our lives. Not just decades or genres, but the tracks that hit hard—the ones that gave us courage, rewired a day, or marked a memory. Expect stories behind the artists, connections across eras, and the moments when a chorus becomes a compass. We’ve rolled out a new logo, merch is coming, and you can find us on Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Deezer, and more. Want a say in where we go next? Head to mt altpod.com and drop us a voice message with the artist or song you want us to unpack.

If this mix of porch honesty, football heat, geopolitical curiosity, and music storytelling hits your lane, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review. Your notes shape the season—and your song picks might just lead our next deep dive.

Transcript

Season Three Cold Open And Banter

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Ladies and gentlemen, renegades and restless minds, welcome back. The MT Alternative podcast has survived another season, ignored all good advice, and somehow returned to season three. That's right, Mike and Tom are back. Older? Definitely. Wiser? Let's not get carried away. New season, new chaos, fewer rules, and absolutely no refund. So adjust your expectations, lower your standards, and prepare for opinions you didn't ask for, but are about to get anyway. This is the MT Alternative Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:06

Happy New Year, everybody. Here we are, season three.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

And woo! Despite the rain, we're out on the porch again. It's a little dreary today, but it's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:19

It's not freezing, so that's a pluck.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

There's no wind. That's the good thing. Well, there is a little wind, but nothing. Tom does not like the wind. Well, I've come from the wind.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

A light breeze is okay. I come from the wind. Out in Kansas. It always blows. Don't ever come in the wind.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

You don't do that. Yeah, don't know. Yeah, don't pee in the rain, or don't pee in the wind either. Yeah, none of that stuff. All that. So on a fence, another bide or whatever. New year? Yeah. It is a good new year.

SPEAKER_04 1:53

So far?

SPEAKER_03 1:55

So far.

Porch Weather, Wind, And Holiday Bits

SPEAKER_04 1:57

Our teams? Ah. Of course you have the bye week this week. Ah. Congratulations on that.

SPEAKER_03 2:05

Thank you very much. We we've we've worked hard for it. It's uh a couple years ahead of what I thought. And by let me just make one thing clear right now. I love my team. I bleed blue and orange, but I don't think we're complete enough for this being our year. I'm not sure where the road ends, but I'm not sure we have. How many questions I have in a complete?

SPEAKER_04 2:34

I won't take it away from Bo Nicks or the offense, really, because you guys, but it's the it's the wins, it's the games you have where you have to win from behind all the time. Or that's a scary way to get it.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Or a couple of points, but you guys, but you guys do it. A couple of points. I mean, we haven't really beat and just drove over anybody.

SPEAKER_04 2:56

You know it's funny when all said and done. You know who which team they've decided, or on that day, whoever, decided was the second easiest schedule. You? No, we're the first easiest schedule. Oh, us.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Yeah. I saw that stat and a Yeah, because we're playing all these.

SPEAKER_04 3:17

But see, here's what but here's what happens. And that pisses me off. Yes, we sucked, we sucked last year, the Patriots, one of the only four games. So I get the crappy schedule. Well, we can't help the schedule they give us, and if the other teams that are supposed to be decent suck, that's not our problem.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah, it's not.

SPEAKER_04 3:33

And even if you say you okay, you got all those teams that suck, you still have to beat them.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

I can see if the Patriots struggled in a lot of those games. You know, and some of the games were weirded out like that, you know.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

Well, it was like Denver. It was like Denver. The worst team in the league was the Jets, and it it took us a hard chop to beat them.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

I give those games a little credence because it's overseas. Right. Those games always kind of suck to me.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

It's either one team gets you lose sleep and you're just tired and everything's off.

SPEAKER_04 4:06

You got Jacksonville pretty much camps out over there every year, so they're there all the time. It's like nothing for them.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Bunch of foreigners. I think we ought to look into that.

Football Talk And Strength Of Schedule

SPEAKER_04 4:15

Yeah, I think so. Jacksonville. Well, hey, they're doing good this week. This weekend, we're playing uh, we got the Chargers. Right? At home. Unfortunately for me, it's an eight o'clock game on Sunday night. Oh, yeah, you gotta stay up a little later. Yep. Yeah. Hence why I am not going in early on Monday. Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Now I'm gonna understand why you say it's lonely, because I'm going to.

SPEAKER_04 4:45

You'll be there with Josh.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Now I understand why you say it's because I'm going to. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

Yeah. Oh yeah, I can hear him now.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Right? So we decided we're not doing the years. We did that. We did our 70s, we did our 80s. We're gonna kind of uh I think this this podcast to start out the season, we're just gonna talk about anything, what we're gonna do. Stuff, yeah. We do have a new logo. That's awesome. It is so awesome. We are in the process of actually making t-shirts. And hats and mugs. Hats and mugs down the road. T-shirts right.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

T-shirts, right?

SPEAKER_04 5:27

Get a couple samples, see what people think. Yep. So we're looking good that way. I'm excited. I am so I am excited.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

It's been it's been a long time coming. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:37

Again, we do this for fun.

SPEAKER_03 5:39

This is so much fun.

SPEAKER_04 5:41

Again, I've said it a million times. It's kind of therapeutic. Just sit here. This is a shit we do at work all the time. Marty Fife. It's therapeutic. There we go. Here we go with the Andy Griffith.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

Okay. But yeah, it's therapeutic.

SPEAKER_04 6:00

This rain is therapeutic. It kind of is. We did need the rain. Things were kind of dry.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Well, it sounds so peaceful, man. There's just sound.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

Very light, steady rain. Yeah, it takes us, takes me back. Takes me back where? Yeah, it takes me back up to northeast. Dr. Rainy. I feel like I'm in Massachusetts again.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Takes me back to the time where it was rainy and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:25

It rains every every year, it rains. Yeah, I love it. It took you back to two weeks ago. The last time it rained, yeah. It takes me back. Alright. Yeah. Moving on. I'm in a weird place right now. I am kinda.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

I'm not hating it. No. No, but you know what comes to mind is my AAA battery problem.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Why do we sound like a PBS radio station right now? Well, because it's very, very public broadcasting.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

It's very, very economical. It costs you nothing to listen to. Alright, let's get back to us. This is sounding pretty uh it costs you nothing to listen to us. That's why it's PBS. It costs minutes out of your life. Yeah, but a lot of people that end up saying, what the hell did I just listen to? Uh yeah, but look, I have sent you videos that people watch over and over and over.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

Don't send me those anymore.

SPEAKER_03 7:34

I don't know what the just the ones that come off of reels and stuff, and people say, oh, this is great, and they watch it a hundred million times. It's been watched, and you're like, well, first off, why were they so stupid to fall off the balcony anyway into a charcoal grill? What I mean but you know that was AI.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

I do kind of it was so funny. No, it was funny, but I realized it was AI with a double A. Nobody helps the guy.

SPEAKER_03 8:13

Yeah, that was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

And then I always go to the comment section. I never did. I do because the comments are funny. Yeah, I know. That's where you get a good chuckle.

SPEAKER_03 8:25

I got a good chuckle when the dude fell in the damn fire.

New Logo, Merch Plans, And Therapy Vibes

SPEAKER_04 8:29

And then you look at him like, all right, if he fell from that farm, man.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Yeah, he didn't roll over and get up. Are you burnt? Yeah. Anyway, or his backbone wasn't broke. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_04 8:41

He was a big boy. He was. I'm surprised he didn't bounce. Bumbles bounces. Good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Absolutely. This is awesome. You think so? I do. Man, this just I don't know. It's it's a this might be an editing statement. I think there's a lot of editing going on right now. But I'm telling you, this is like a spiritual steal.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Oh, I totally agree with you on that.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

I don't think it's what our listeners want to hear. No, not really, but Mike, man. They're not in our mind, our head right now. You can narrate it and maybe explain it to them.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

It's awesome, guys. Okay, well explained. Well, have you ever just hit that euphoria with with nothing in your mind except for what you really, really, really like. That's what this is. It's like, yeah, this is what I've been searching for for a minute.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

I don't know. I'm just looking across the streets and wondering why them trees are melting.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

Well, the thing about it is you're always here, so the trees will melt on you possibly.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

Just the first time.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

I haven't been here, so I mean I'm not used to the melting trees yet, but that's probably why I That'll come.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

It'll come, Tom. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Okay. Well, the squirrel over there in the yard that grew up to be a transformer is one I didn't know about, but anyway. That might be the squirrel who stole my little knife. If that guy's got your knife, I would not leave my doors unlocked. That little guy's like huge. It's like a little ninja. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. It's like the same one I saw, or wait, wait, wait, wait. That I didn't see at the ninja parade when we went again. I still haven't seen the guy. I have candy in my pocket, so I was happy.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

Well, I didn't, so I got that sunshine in my pocket. How the hell do you get sunshine in your pocket?

SPEAKER_03 10:56

I don't know how you get sunshine in a bag. Stupid. I got sunshine in a bag.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

You know, we just passed the holidays. We did. Watching a Christmas show. You know, a little animation, little animated acclaimation, whatever you want to call them shows. And I noticed a song that Santa was singing. If you sit on my lap today, I kiss a toy is the price you pay. Uh oh. Wait the hell is going on there? How did I never get there?

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Wait just a minute.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

There you go, Tom. What does that mean? That means why can't you just say a toy is the price you pay? Okay, wait a minute. Why do you gotta pay a price? It's Christmas. Why you gotta sit on the lap to pay a price?

SPEAKER_03 11:43

We know the price that pays. Okay, wait, wait just a minute. I'm I'm gonna just say this. Back in the 70s, okay, when all this was going on. Wait a minute, I hear birds. Well, that's because we're out here on the porch. Oh, okay. Continue. But back in the 70s, right? When I was a young lad. I understand. Okay. And our parents were smoking palm alls.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

No, my mom was my mom was drink smoking lark extra longs.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Okay, larks, yeah. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 12:18

My dad was drinking Genesee cheap ass beer.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Okay, well then then here you go. All right. We're gonna take the kid to drop him off at Santa, and they didn't give a shit what it was. No, my parents are there. I understand. They were right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Hey, let me walk right up to the old jolly old city.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Exactly, exactly, because they knew that it would keep you just occupied for long enough. All right. Why is he kissing a toy? No, no, no, no.

Internet Clips, AI Pranks, And Childhood Mischief

SPEAKER_04 12:44

A kiss and a toy. A kiss or a toy is the price you pay.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

Oh, well, that's like trick-or-treat. What are you gonna do? A kiss or a treat? Well, if you don't have a treat for me, you better be ready to do a trick.

SPEAKER_04 13:01

Did you say that while you were trick-or-treating, though?

SPEAKER_03 13:05

No.

SPEAKER_04 13:05

Why not? Because that's funny.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

No, well, it is funny, but you didn't get shit then. I didn't get shit, yeah. I got candy.

SPEAKER_04 13:14

I sure did. Well, those people were stupid, boys. No, they liked my little song. Oh, not mine. Me and my friends. That was just one year. That was just a couple houses. We were just being silly little boys. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

You know what I used to do when I trigger treated? Nothing. Nope. Throw toilet paper. Oh. Shaving cream. Oh. Eggs.

SPEAKER_04 13:36

Nope. Fucking boring. I'd knock on the door. Yeah. And I'd say Oh, burn a bag. Ring the doorbell. Burn some shit. No, that's a good thing. In a bag, and then they come out and stomp on it.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

No, that was the school principal. No. Okay. Oh no, no. Okay. Oh, wait a minute. Edit that. There's a squirrel across the street. Squirrel? He's climbing that little tree. We were s we was talking about something and Mike's squirrel kicked in. Squirrel. Look, a squirrel.

SPEAKER_04 14:04

So what were you saying now?

SPEAKER_03 14:06

You did on Halloween? We were talking about the the principal stomping out.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Okay, but you said you said you didn't do that only to the principal. Who would you do on Halloween?

SPEAKER_03 14:18

I didn't do anybody on Halloween.

SPEAKER_04 14:20

No, I s oh my God. This is gonna be one of them fucking episodes. What episode? You said, you know what we did on Halloween? And I said, put shit in a bag, burn it, and have the people stop. No, that was a principal. So what did you do on Halloween? To the principal? Oh. Oh my god. Forget the principal. Forget I mentioned it. Tom said, you know what that we did on Halloween?

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Yeah. We did uh we put a shit in the bag.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what you said. You're taking what I asked you. No. Did you forget what you were gonna say? Probably. Okay. I just say that. There's no harm in it.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

I'm just trying to figure out where you're leading me. It's where you were leading me. Yeah, I was just saying when we went, when on my Halloween, we would go and put dog shit in a bag.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

That's not how it started, though. It wasn't. So I said what I said, and you said, you know what we did on Halloween? And I named a bunch of stuff. You said no, and I said, put shit, and you go, no, that was a principle.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

Oh, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 15:32

And then there was something else.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Well, we would just tell the people. I don't need to see your tricks. Just put candy in the bag. Okay. I should have just let you just stick to the damn principle shit in there. Yeah, I don't know what I was going with that.

SPEAKER_04 15:49

That's where you I was like, what the hell? How did he lose spot already?

SPEAKER_03 15:55

Well, what do you think? What are you looking at? That fucking bowl.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Oh. Oh. What's this?

unknown 16:03

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

Oh, that was something stuck to my shoe. Oh. A leaf. I had something stuck in my shoe with me. Can I smoke it?

SPEAKER_03 16:12

No, I would put it in a cup of hot water and make it tea. It's a very steady rain. Very, very steady. A light, steady rain. So peaceful. But the flag looks like it's just whipping. See? And it's not windy here. I don't understand that, but. Gay me. Gay you? Nope. Yay. Oh, yeah. Like you. Nope, nope, not gay me. Gay me didn't show up. Won't ever show up. Never ever? Nope.

SPEAKER_04 16:49

Never gonna get it, never gonna get it. Nope.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

Never gonna get it. At all. Anyway, so.

SPEAKER_04 16:59

Are you gonna say it's raining out again? Nope. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Not yet. Thank God. Because it's kind of slowed down.

SPEAKER_04 17:05

No, it's doing the same. Yeah. See, I have a better view where I am than you do over there.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Well, anyway. I still see rain. Over there.

SPEAKER_04 17:19

Well yeah, it's raining everywhere. Okay. I never said you wasn't raining.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

You said I didn't see the rain. It's a shittier view. Of the rain?

SPEAKER_04 17:28

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Oh. So your rain's prettier than my rain.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

The view is prettier.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:40

It has nothing to do with the rain. It just happens to be raining.

SPEAKER_03 17:47

I like the old Dodge. I like a Dodge.

SPEAKER_04 17:51

Well, you'll be that's a Hellcat, so that's not old.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

I know it's not old, but I'm just saying. I like the Dodge. It was designed to look old. I like dogs. Dodge. Did I buy your dog dodge? Nope. Nope. I dodge my dog.

SPEAKER_04 18:09

Dodge? Nope. Like the looking over stuff? No. Who's spending what?

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Nope. No. Not not like that at all. It's not. No, because if I was looking over what was being spent. A four-leaf clover? No. I would know to stop all that's being spent. You know what I mean? You know what's funny? What?

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Not a word you said made sense, but yet it did make sense.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

Well, it has to because there's a lot being spent.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

There's like a lot of nonsense there. But it somewhat somehow made sense.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

I can't wait to hear. Well, I can't wait to hear. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 18:55

Since we're on this subject. Okay. Yeah, I know, Bird. I feel the same way. Anyways. This thing in Minnesota's got me a little upset, Tom. What? Just a little bit upset. Okay. How many angles now have we seen where the driver of that truck and they hear the old all the interaction of what exactly happened? Whether she meant to wanna run him over or scare him, she still directed the damn truck at him.

unknown 19:27

Right.

SPEAKER_04 19:28

You can they they had the police body cam where you hear the guy actually get hit and pushed aside. So first of all, why is this lady there? She's from another state altogether.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Well, she's an employer.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

She's an idiot. Right. I don't think this lady realized the shit she was getting herself into.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Well, that's why she was a lot smart.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

They use her as a pawn. I'm not saying they wanted this lady killed. I'm not saying anybody wanted this lady killed. I'm not saying anything This lady should have been killed. That's not my point. My point is, what do you expect with these? First of all, people, these are law enforcement officers.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

You don't interview it.

SPEAKER_04 20:13

And everybody else don't want to protest. You can protest. You don't interfere with the law. You're not gonna win this battle, people. What's gonna happen? Anyway. Okay, that was my rare. That was my rare and I'm sticking to it. Like I said, I feel bad that it happened. I do. But don't do people, don't put yourself in stupid fucking situations. Especially when you get children. Are your children less important than what this causes? Illegal aliens, illegal immigrants? No. That bugs me really bad.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

I don't know. There's a lot of stuff going on that just didn't need that.

Pippin Squeak Takeover Skit

SPEAKER_04 20:56

You know what this is a good time for? This is a good time to let Pippin squeak in. Oh yeah. Let's let the little dudes in. Mike can calm down a little, and uh we'll be back after that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

All right, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_04 21:09

We'll be back right after Pippin Squeak.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

Oh, sweet, welcome back. Happy New Year, buddy! Happy New Year, everybody. Did you see what they said about us in our show? You hear them? I don't listen because you know what I do. What do you do? I look and see how many people listen to us. And huh, you know what? Are we more popular? We were a little bit. Well what a couple of damn idiots. I told 'em, and I told 'em. And we showed them. That's all man. You don't think we got too carried away? No, we did right. We did ooh. He seems a little pissed when we get out of the studio, though. Okay, well, listen. People listened. Oh, I'm happy about that, sweet. Yeah, that's what our goal was, wasn't it? But, you know, making time gave us this mut. Don't you feel a little bad? No? Sweet. What? This is the studio. Show a little respect. Okay, that's fine. Well, on a football team, if everybody was as good as everybody else, somebody would that be good. But listen, are you bringing up participation trophies?

unknown 22:49

No, no.

Back From Skit And Ratings Jokes

SPEAKER_02 22:50

That's what you would want to do. No, no, no. No, this is. Well, they need to be funny with the You're not understanding me. They were very generous to let us use this studio to do this. Shouldn't we be a little appreciative? What did they use with their genitals? What what'd you say? I'm very disappointed. Yes, okay, we kicked ass. We think we did. But what if it wasn't for Tom and Mike, would people even hear us? And let's be realistic. Okay. So let's just say if it wasn't for me, let's be clear. Let's be clear that you know, I'm I'm not bragging, I'm not trying to sing it, but I do run the show. What show? I'm sorry if you don't. Wait a minute, wait, just uh what I'm on screen. Angry? Wait, wait a minute. I'm not as angry as everybody thinks I am. I just again, you don't listen to the podcast. Yes, I do. You just said you don't. You watch the ratings or how many people listen. Well, that's because if I get on there, then it'll be me too. That's not fair. I think you're taking this too personal. Am I? Yeah, I think so. Well, here look at me. Look me in the eyes. I am the captain. I think you are the captain. I am the captain. Well, you are just a seaman aboard. Yeah, seaman. Anyway, the the damn titanic kid had a captain too. Right. Well, it's still in the bottom of the ocean. And what happened? He left the second mate in charge, and that's what happened. Well, if he hadn't have been messing around with the cruise lines and stuff, he wouldn't have been having to leave it in some low happen without matins. And hop dob with people. Yeah, hop gob. Well, a hobdom. He had a hopnob with people. Well, you know, get a big thing. Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What is it? Nothing sits with the special guest, but dinner. That's what they say. I don't watch it. Well, I don't either. I don't get porn sights, but hop knobbing the guest is no wondering. Well, eat this. Okay, eat boy. You don't want, let's move on from this. I don't know what your problem is already. How is your uh New Year's going, by the way, since we've last spoken? Last spoken we will about the same. I'm gonna tell. I will tell you. All right then, go ahead. Okay, here it comes. Uh really uh when we last spoke. Yes. How's the missus? When we last spoke. Okay. I had an old lady. Okay, you had. Uh-huh. Had passed half pence. Well, she's stuck in the hoe. Stuck in a hoe.

unknown 26:26

Yeah.

Greenland Strategy, Arctic Power, And Trump

Music Format Reboot And What’s Next

SPEAKER_02 26:27

Well, this is fun for you, isn't it? I'm not laughing. Okay, well, here's the bad part. What's the bad? She didn't get stuck coming in when I could see birdie place. She got stuck going in a minute. I got a big old anyway. Hey, no, but they ain't no beads there. How do you think I turn the lights on? Oh, that's a light. That must be some kind of light. Oh, sweet. Like a smooth light. Well, you just like a chimney. There they go. That's a big one. So that must be fun for you. That must be. Hey, what's a hell of you? You poke down whenever you want now. You know, instead of the sofa with the little buttons. Well, it's about the same thing. Alright, well, there it is. It's always there. You walk up, do you see, you walk away. Every day you think of that. You're not looking at the bright side of this. I'm not a chimpanzee. Never said you were. Well, that's what they do. Just it's over. Um, it takes me a couple minutes. Oh, a couple minutes. Oh, sorry. Okay. Done. Zing! There you go. See? Happy ending. I don't know about that tomato. Yeah, don't forget that you'll be in trouble. This delicious beverage. Yeah. That might left me. Yeah. That's a taste. Voodoo Ranger. Voodoo. I don't know if he left it for me, but it was sitting here, and I just assumed. That beer was there when you came in and you opened it. Well, I was a beer when I come in. Yeah, but that how do you know that was for you? I'm here, right? Alright, well, same thing with this. So don't look at me that way. I don't judge me. I didn't judge you. I'm gonna get a sip. You can't get a sippy. That is very, very delicious. I noticed yeah, you didn't show up to my New Year's Eve party. There's a little card that I gotta come to you that says you are cordially invited to a New Year's Eve party, which I never got. You just said you had it. Oh I'm not talking about Mike's party. Oh, well, I'm talking about my New Year's Eve party. Oh, I know I said I told you even. I was doing stuff. What were you doing? New Year's Eve. You missed a good time, my friend. I was watching balls drop. Anyway. Um, there is something wrong with you, sweet. No, no, I I've been testing. Anyway, you missed a great time. I did. What happened? What do you mean, what happened? Yeah, well, if I missed such a great time, I'm sure you remember what happened, right? You wanna see a good rock band? Snap, crackle, and pop? They put on an amazing show. Are you serious? They did a lot of covers. Under the covers, probably the Ouija. Whoa, you you had Dan? It was a one of the bands. One of the bands. Who was the other ones? I don't know why you're gonna get too upset. Well, anything better. Have you heard of the cable house? Did you know they have a bluegrass jug band? A bluegrass jug, buddy? It was freaking awesome. Who blows in the jug? And calls it awesome. That would be. What'd you do? That was yours. No, it wasn't. I don't have that on mine. No, no. Well, is that Tom's phone? I don't know. Damn, Tom. Smash it. Smash his phone, I dare you. It'll be funny. Anyway, yes. So anyways. Yes, a bluegrass jug band. That's stupid. Oh, hello, okay. Well, okay. I like, oh, okay, bluegrass rat. But you go with bluegrass what? Jug band. Jug band. Jug fish for catfish. You don't have a man. That's what it sounds like. Well, there's other instruments. And the grip. They hit they hit somebody that's gonna be. Oh, here we go. Yeah. That's like Tom. Well, they have a join them. I haven't only shown them 80 years ago. No, it wasn't 80. Okay, 50. 60 years ago. Okay. Maybe 60. Yeah, but anyway, probably one of the best programs ever made. Anyway, moving on once again. That was another one. I I just wanna I I wanna end this one way. Uh And then. Have you made any resolutions? I have. And I have. I'd like to hear them. Oh, you would? Yeah. Okay. Well this year. This year, yeah. I'm not gonna be as mass to everybody. Because I get run over with a mask every time. And my other resolution is I'm gonna quit drinking. What? The first one's gonna stick because that's how you act all the time. Uh so that's not really a resolution. And you quit and drink it, want water? Why milk? Water anyway, but uh, yeah, well. Okay, so you're not drinking you're not gonna quit alcohol. Well, who said I was gonna be drinking? When people say I'm gonna quit drinking. I'm not gonna be stupid this year. When most people say I'm going to quit drinking, it means alcohol. You just can't say I'm gonna quit drinking. Drinking what? Oh, you want specifics? Yes. Okay. And let some people know what the hell you're talking about. Well, I'm gonna quit. That's it for me. Iced tea, water, milk, soda. Oh, quit drinking sun drop. Are you ridiculous? I thought we were ending this. Now you really open, buddy. I don't know what you're doing. Those two things, beer and sun drop, are the only two things out there that I can drink because I'm quit drinking all the other stuff. Anyway, my resolution is to be more. I don't think I can do this. To be more patient with you. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna really try. What do you mean? I'm just gonna end it that way, sweet. Um, I think I finished this. Do I raise my child than doing uh nonsense? What? Do I need to send somebody to your house to do a wheelpare check? Louise. Oh, she's fine. She's fine. She's stuck in your door. That's fine, but yeah. Uh wait a minute, wait a minute. You would be on this. Okay, if you're stuck in the door, she really can't eat. She'll lose weight. See? Well, but I don't want her to lose weight too fast because I've got a shelf on her butt right now, so I'ma putting stuff there. Okay. Anyway, I'm using it. It's well, it's I gotta be frugal and stuff and and and making a I'm making good out of a bad situation. All right. Well, say goodbye, squeak. Goodbye, squeak. All right, folks. Yeah, we're just gonna end it. I don't know where I was going. Okay, say back on the road.

SPEAKER_04 35:10

And we're back. Hey. What's going on, everybody? Same old Pip and Squeak. Tom. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

Did they really think they take it over? Better ratings? Better ratings. Talk about going to your head. We gave them a race car and they won the race. That sounds pretty reasonable. We gave them a race car and they won the race. Okay. Whatever. People uh that happened to that.

SPEAKER_04 35:50

But anyway. Pip's credit. He did say he appreciated that.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

Oh squeak man, he was like, it was all he's the show. Oh boy. But anyway. What about OSTO? I don't know why it didn't call me to come down a very good track.

SPEAKER_04 36:16

Speaking of, what is this with you and that's squeezed? You just mentioned you would go down and help. What the hell?

SPEAKER_03 36:27

What are you saying? I'm just saying. I don't really think she ought to be stuck at all.

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SPEAKER_04 36:35

Isn't it a doorway? I think you should just let it be. Maybe lose a little weight there. All right. So we talked about it. Venezuela. I kind of understand the Venezuela thing. All I know is Tom is Venezuelan people are happy. They are. They are extremely happy. But then Trump started writing about Greenland. And I was like, oh God, Trump, what are we saying now? Why must you spring up this shit? Why do you have to talk this way? Just let it go. Well, Tom, I did a little research. What's so important about Greenland? Okay. And of course Trump's gone. And it's mixed with a very real U.S. security interest. Military and national security, which makes sense. Greenland is extremely strategic. It's between North America, Europe, and the Arctic.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Right.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

The US already has the uh space base formation, which is a fucking space. All right. Okay. Yeah, that's kind of important.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

That's important stuff, Daddy.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

But let me just finish this one part of it and I'll let you go on. Arctic ice melt becomes more militarily and economically important. Trump views this as a long-term chest model.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

Sure he does. He just could say it differently. I mean, he's not a pretty speaker. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_04 38:37

That is the problem, the way he works it out. Someone like me being up north, I get his speaking. Sure. But even myself, when I hear him say it, I cringe and I go, I know when I say shit. Stupid shit comes out of my mouth. Why the hell did I say it like that? The tonality of the way he puts it.

SPEAKER_03 38:55

Right. And everybody talks about how I'm so easygoing and everything. Well, it's just that I know how to put stuff.

SPEAKER_04 39:03

Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Well, I can speak in a different tone in a different way. But then we go back to like we mentioned Obama.

SPEAKER_04 39:12

Great speaker.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

Oh Polish speaker.

SPEAKER_04 39:19

You know, and the first time I voted for him. If Trump would just tell like it is.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

He's like an eight-year-old bully on the playground. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do No. Let's speak it easy and explain what we're doing. And why? And why? Exactly. Well, because this is a strategic polish.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

No. All right, let me move on to the next one. Number two. Arctic power. Play the Arctic is opening up new shipping lanes. Right. That's good. We've got easier access to untapped territory. Russia and China are aggressively expanding their Arctic presence. Trump's thinking was basically if we don't lock this down, someone else will, and he's right.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

And he is absolutely right.

SPEAKER_04 40:18

And he didn't mention it that way. But you it's I don't want him to be polished, Tom. I don't. I don't want him to just be like a car sailor. Right. I want him to be a little more presidential.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

Let's do truthful.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

Okay, that's that works.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Yeah, let's let's speak in a in a clear I mean there's there's certain ways of saying, hey, I've left your life. I mean Right.

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SPEAKER_04 40:44

Exactly. Alright, well, number three, Tom, natural resources. Okay. Greenland has huge untapped resources, rare earth minerals, oil and natural gas, uranium. These matter a lot for defense attack, green energy, which all these leftists want, and reducing reliance on China, which we want. We all want. Oh, everybody wants that. And Trump thinks in terms of assets and leveraging Greenland looks like a future gold mine, which is understandable.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

And Tom. In the end, he just needs to learn to just speak a little bit different and explain what he's doing. Okay. I'm gonna use Greenland for this military whole payment. Make it make sense to people. Because if I don't, Russia or China or both is going to slip in there before us and do it. It's it's war people. I mean they're already doing that with Venezuela. We're not in war, but it is war.

SPEAKER_04 41:48

But again, with Venezuela, they're already doing that. Russia and China are already getting.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

They're already back and forth. You're right. You're right.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

So what are you gonna do? Wait till they take over that territory and then say, oh, now, now look at because we wanted to be this and that. It's okay to you know stick up for people that listen to us.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

It really is. That's fine.

SPEAKER_04 42:06

Feed them, send your 39 cents a day, whatever it is. The U.S. comes first. Yes. So, anyways, we'll get off that now. I that was my rant. Well, I do want to read a couple of more things from this and then we'll get off. All right, number four, real estate mentality. This is Pete Trump, which is true. He sees land as value, bigger equals stronger, control equals power. To him, buying Greenland wasn't crazy. It was a deal, which probably is. He said had similar things about territory, property, and influence his entire career. Number five, legacy and shock factor. Trump likes bold history making moves, which he does. We'll say that about him. Sometimes that's a you know, it's like eh, you know, but anyway, president who expanded U.S. territory, forced everyone to talk about him, dominated headlines, which he always enjoys. That's true. That's it. That's Donald Trump. Yep. I mean and why it blew up, Tom. Here it is. The problem, Greenland isn't for sale. It's part of Denmark with self-rule. Right. Danes and Greenlanders found the idea insulting. That's not true, though. Not all of them. Not all of them. We know that for a fact because I've seen people say they thought it was a great idea. Yes. And when Denmark said no, Trump canceled the state visit, classic Trump escalation. Yes, the art of the deal. Once again.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Business.

SPEAKER_04 43:28

Trump didn't want Greenland because it's pretty or random. He wanted it because it strengthens U.S. military dominance, counters Russia and China, contains massive future resources, and fits his deal maker worldview.

SPEAKER_03 43:42

And the other people are upset because he thought of this before they did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

And it goes and I to finish it said the idea wasn't strategically stupid. It was just politically tone-deaf and diplomatically clumsy.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

That's absolutely correct.

SPEAKER_04 43:57

So that's it, pretty much. But you know, I did my research on it because like I said, folks, when I heard it too, I was like, oh damn Trump. Stop. This is making it makes sense. His approach didn't didn't make sense, but I knew where he was good where he was going with it. I know where he's going with it now.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

Yeah, I didn't vote for him because he could talk. Nope, definitely not. Because he takes charge and does what needs to be done, is what I did. I mean good solid is.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

So, anyways, Tom, getting back to uh what we're gonna be doing uh from here on in afterwards. We're gonna be discussing music.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

Right.

SPEAKER_04 44:31

What Tom and I, how we first get into music, what songs we enjoy. There's no particular year, genre. It's just songs that click with us. We might pick a few artists to highlight that we you know that really changed certain parts of our lives for us.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

This really moved me this way. Exactly. That really moved me that way.

SPEAKER_04 44:51

Right. That's that's the route because again, we do love music. Oh, we do. We did that little 70s, 80 things. It was it was great. We had fun doing it, but it was a little too short at times, and there's certain things we wanted to discuss. We figured this way would be easier to find out.

SPEAKER_03 45:05

Yeah, we can just come back and take what we thought was the most important part about it.

SPEAKER_04 45:09

Right. I mean, there could be a song one year from just recently, or a sign that it was made in the fifth before Tom and I were born. Right. But it had an impact somewhere in our lives. Yep. So that's that's how it will go. We'll always have other shit mixed in. You know us. Yeah, can't stick to a script. Yeah. We're everywhere half the time. Can't stick to a while. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, script, whatever that means. Oh, yeah. We yeah, there's not much structure on the MT Alternative Podcast, but hey. But before we go, I would like to say today.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

Today. Wait a minute. It looks like it slowed down the rain, Tom. Yeah, the rain is slowing down. Yeah, there we go. And today is we have uh wildcard weekend starting. And the Panthers are taking on the Rams this afternoon.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

The homegrown team here.

SPEAKER_03 46:05

Well not my homegrown team, but my they've already beat the Rams at home one time this year, so let's hope they can do it again. Good strike twice. But uh, yeah, and then uh Pittsburgh, I think, plays today. Houston. Yeah, uh everybody. I think that's the sleeper. It's been fun, Pittsburgh, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 46:25

Yeah, we'll see. I think it could happen.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

Pittsburgh's at home at least. Yep, and I think I think the Texans, I think that's the sleeper this year. Uh we'll see. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

Wait a minute. Buffalo and Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Uh yeah, go Buffalo. Anyway. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 46:46

Jacksonville, you're a little afraid of Jacksonville there, aren't you, Tom? Well, at home, yeah. They did it once, just like I said about it wasn't just a squeaker of a wind either. Nope. They showed up. Trevor Lawrence freaking bald, man. The whole team did it. Yep, they showed up. Who knew? Then, uh, let's see. Who else we got? Besides the Patriots and uh charges Sunday night.

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SPEAKER_03 47:10

Yeah, then there's another Green Bay and Chicago. Yep, yep. Yep. And Chicago, I think, is real. We'll see what happens. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But anyways, that's that's where this is it, folks.

SPEAKER_04 47:25

Uh looking forward to the new season.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

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SPEAKER_04 47:34

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SPEAKER_03 47:46

By the way, we did change our logo, so if you're looking for the old one, that's not it.

SPEAKER_04 47:50

You won't see it anymore. You won't see it anymore. We're still the same.

SPEAKER_03 47:54

We're still the same, but we do have a little different logo, so so keep on the lookout for that.

SPEAKER_04 47:59

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SPEAKER_03 48:19

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SPEAKER_04 48:21

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SPEAKER_03 48:40

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SPEAKER_04 48:42

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SPEAKER_03 48:54

Because we see you guys are all over the place, but we don't know where. I mean, we we know where, but we we we'd love to hear from you.

SPEAKER_04 49:03

Exactly. So, uh, Tom, I guess that'll wrap it up for today.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

Hey, I would just like to take this minute, thank God for the gift of Gab.

SPEAKER_04 49:11

Everyone, take care, God bless, and later.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Well, that's it. You've reached the end of another episode of the MT Alternative Podcast, and apparently the end of me. It's Rupert here, signing off for the final time. Not because of contract disputes, creative differences, or a sudden career in alpaca farming, but for the exact same reason Daniel left. Yes, this address, the unrelenting, soul-softening experience of working with Mike and Tom. Doctors warned me, friends begged me, my blood pressure monitor started making suggestions, and yet, here we are. Mike and Tom, two men who can turn a five-minute conversation into a 45-minute argument about music, politics, or why something was better in 73. It's been an honor and a medical event. But seriously. Thanks for listening, thanks for sticking with us, and thanks for making this weird little podcast worth the emotional exhaustion. Mike and Tom will be back, louder than ever, arguing about something that absolutely doesn't matter, but very passionately. As for me, I'll be resting, hydrating, and relearning how silence works. From the MT Alternative Podcast, I'm Rupert. Good luck, Mike and Tom. You're going to need it. Good night, and Godspeed.