Three Guys Around a Table and The Best Of…
Three buddies sitting around a table debating the best of everything and discussing what is on their minds
Three Guys Around a Table and The Best Of…
Sports Thrills and Presidential Chills: A Banter-Fueled Adventure
Ever wondered how a lawyer, an engineer, and a school superintendent manage to make sense of the world's chaos? Join us around the table as we tackle everything from Pennsylvania's pivotal role in the upcoming election to the peculiar hunting skills of a certain political figure. We also get into the swing of sports season, celebrating the return of hockey and recounting the nail-biting Ohio State versus Oregon football showdown—complete with a controversial call. Throw in some weekend tales and culinary adventures featuring meatloaf and cronuts, and you'll find yourself right at home with our banter.
Switching gears, we take a playful jab at Kentucky football's legacy alongside an exploration of Teddy Roosevelt's wisdom on joy and comparison. From pondering expectations in sports to debating the merits of historical U.S. presidents like Taft and Harrison, we’ve got enough trivia and presidential fun to tickle your brain. Ohio’s presidential pride takes center stage, and we sprinkle in some local history to sweeten the mix. Whether you're a sports fanatic, a history buff, or someone who loves a good laugh, this episode promises a delightful blend of humor, insight, and camaraderie.
three guys around the table and by three guys.
Speaker 3:We're talking about three friends a lawyer, an engineer and a school superintendent and just like our personalities, our opinions vary and we certainly don't always agree. Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around.
Speaker 2:Another potpourri edition today of the three guys around the table podcast. We haven't done this in a while, by the way. In terms of like introducing us, I think people kind of know who we are now, but, um, I'm mark, I'm chris, I'm greg, and when we do these potpourri things, we potpourri, yeah, potp things. We kind of just kind of bounce all around, but I think we're going to talk maybe a little college football, hopefully not a lot of politics.
Speaker 1:Hey, we are three weeks away from the election. Three weeks, I mean three weeks from tonight. I can guarantee I won't be going to sleep.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah 100%. I agree.
Speaker 3:I hope it doesn't drag on like it has for the past three or four times where you don't know.
Speaker 1:It's going to, because whoever wins Pennsylvania is going to win it 80% chance. And Pennsylvania takes like 12 days to count votes because they don't have enough fingers Bingo.
Speaker 2:I saw a thing today, that 80% chance, whoever wins Pennsylvania wins it. So and again. Hence I saw a thing today, that 80% chance. Whoever wins Pennsylvania wins it.
Speaker 1:And again, hence Kamala Harris's choice of VP. She should have picked the.
Speaker 2:Pennsylvania governor. That was a really strong belief that she would pick Shapiro, I mean look Walls.
Speaker 1:He's an expert hunter, if you couldn't tell over the weekend.
Speaker 2:Again, I'm I mean did you see?
Speaker 1:Everything he had on was brand new. It had never been used before, and I mean you would have been more likely to be able to load that shotgun.
Speaker 2:I have loaded a shotgun before Tony Gunn.
Speaker 1:Have you shotgunned Tony Gunn? Shotgun Click, clack, Shout out OVW. So, we went from politics To guns To OVW In like 10 seconds, that's pretty impressive, but hold on.
Speaker 3:Did you, being a gun guy, did you notice when he was carrying his gun, walking with it? He is obviously left handed. It's the way he was holding the gun. It was a right-handed automatic. He called it a. He said it was a 400. I didn't watch any of this Anyhow, and it's got that patent thingy in the back. So, oh God, it doesn't hurt your shoulder.
Speaker 3:But anyhow he was carrying it like you would if you were left-handed, to shoot it, and it's a right-handed gun and he was trying to load it, and this was this weekend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a pheasant hunt this weekend. Don't worry, no pheasants were injured.
Speaker 3:He didn't even shoot. He didn't even shoot In this filming Nope All right, moving on yeah that's enough politics yeah, enough politics.
Speaker 2:I will say that I spent the weekend watching college football and hockey, and thank God the hockey is back.
Speaker 1:I watched a lot of college football. Yeah, college football, hockey is on tonight.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, we got the Lightning and the Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 3:I put a roof on a barn. Yeah, I cook dinner.
Speaker 2:I actually cook dinner as well. What do you have? Meatloaf.
Speaker 1:Oh, fantastic. Is there any left? Is the question.
Speaker 2:Yes, if you would try a bite of my meatloaf.
Speaker 3:Leftist question yes, If you would try a bite of my meatloaf. You do realize the only thing I've had for dinner is the two Reese's Cup and the Kit-Kat I got out of your bowl in your kitchen.
Speaker 2:You're going to have a cronut and some meatloaf.
Speaker 3:I got chills just thinking about it. Two words that don't belong together. Meat and loaf Mine is good Look cronuts.
Speaker 2:What do we?
Speaker 1:got to say about cronuts from Buckeye's Donuts Idiot. We've got four of them out there and there are two for each of you Look, let me tell you what that's my dinner. It's the best. Look before the cronut. I was a chocolate-covered Bavarian field. The pudding on the inside? Yep, that was my favorite. Yep, Not anymore.
Speaker 2:Nope. So here's how much I care about you guys. I got a delivery of Buckeye Donuts and it was a bag in a box. The bag had a Buckeye Donuts coffee cup which.
Speaker 3:I was thrilled about that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:And the box was four Cronuts. I'm not eating any of the Cronuts, you guys are getting the Cronuts.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I got no support for that.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to cut back on the sugar.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you guys are killing it, I'll take care of that for you Won't be an issue. Cottage football huge weekend.
Speaker 2:Huge, huge, huge weekend as an Ohio State fan. My Buckeyes went out to Oregon, laid an egg defensively and only lost by one point to a team. That was really impressive to me. I got to say I watched that game and Oregon's legit, as I told you.
Speaker 1:you got to see in that game a coach who plays chess and a coach who plays checkers.
Speaker 2:And a coach who coaches to win and one who coaches not to lose, explain what happened at the end of that game. So you know, a couple different things happen, uh, you know, throughout the game, but at the end of the game, uh, there were 10 seconds left in the game. Ohio state has the ball they call play and this is okay. Here's the controversial part, and all the state fans are not real pleased about.
Speaker 2:They called an offensive pass interference on the Ohio state wide receiver who had just made a catch down to like the 20 yard line that they work very clearly in field goal range anyway. And then it was a chip shot, field goal at that point Right. There was contact there, but there were contact on both players and they called it on the off and they had not called an offensive pass interference, all game or defensive pass interference and both sides had just been mauling the other receivers. It was a crappy call to make at that point in the game. Having said that, ohio State has a chance to move back into field goal range. They're at the 45 yard line. They throw a pass that gets five yards.
Speaker 2:During that play, oregon put a 12th guy on defense correct with 10 seconds left and defended the play and because they had 12 guys on the field they were only able to complete a five-yard pass. They go out of bounds. It goes down to six seconds. Of course the flag is announced, they gain that extra five yards or whatever. They could choose to take the penalty or the five that they already got. It really became a moot point, but time clicked off the clock. Four seconds went off. The chess part of it is oregon's coach purposely did that. Correct what? And so brilliant. Why wouldn't you put a 12th guy on defense? Prevent a big play? Yep, you're only going to get a five yard penalty, which is still. You're still at the 40 yard line to kick a 57 yard field. There's no way our kicker's going to make that. And because it's a defensive penalty, there is no. Oh, we're going to put time back on the clock.
Speaker 1:No, no, I did see on Twitter or X that it says the NCAA is looking at that rule now at the loophole that was in that rule and to me it's not a loophole.
Speaker 2:It's just the NCAA is looking at that rule now, at the loophole that was in that rule, and to me it's not a loophole, it's just the way the rule is.
Speaker 1:It's the way. The rule is Right. It's not a loophole.
Speaker 2:The coach exploited it for what it was, and good on him. Sure, no sour grapes from me on that. My sour grapes is from the fact that the Ohio State defense played so passively the whole game. They've got all of this talent and they gave up almost 500 yards. Is it the coaching? It's coaching 100%. Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator, the guru, had made no adjustments. The defensive line coach, Larry Johnson, who you and I met when he came here.
Speaker 2:Larry Johnson, for whatever he is the strangest substitution patterns. Oregon gets the ball within the 10-yard line We've got to make a stop and he puts in, like our fifth and sixth string defensive tackles that seems about right. I just and they score a touchdown. I mean, you know, Ohio State fans are living up to that, Can.
Speaker 1:I ask you a question, though yes, seriously, a legitimate question about the game.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Can all of Ohio State's players tie their shoes? I think they wear a lot of Velcro.
Speaker 3:Awkward.
Speaker 2:Now explain that, because that's a really interesting point that you just brought up there point that you just brought up there.
Speaker 1:So in a press conference mark stoops, uk's coach, says he gets asked why the backup running back didn't get more touches in the vandy game.
Speaker 3:Because he had three.
Speaker 1:He had three touches for 35 yards and he, he's, and he goes on this 20, 30, second thing. That basically says he's got to do the little things like tiny shoot and and says he doesn't tie his shoes and he gets tackled and his shoe comes off and he's got to come out of the game. That I mean these people are college students. That can't be happening. I mean, can we not get a sketchy uh endorsement here, but get some sketchy cleats and put on the good dude or what I love, my slipping goes, my sketchy slipping goes.
Speaker 1:They're awesome but now kentucky football. Yes, here's my take on kentucky football chris losing, losing to vandy at home. Um, and you guys were at the game mark stoops has taken kentucky to some highs that it's not seen in a long time. True, he also has some unexplainable lows that haven't been seen in a long time. Yep, and I say that the coach before him was Joker Phillips, who was terrible.
Speaker 3:Do you agree he was terrible? Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you know his 12 games that he coached at UK in the SEC, kentucky went four and eight. Do you know that in the last 12 games at UK currently they're two and 10? Yeah, and they have not won a home game. They've lost seven or eight in a row SEC home games.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So my question becomes what's the common denominator Him?
Speaker 1:I mean, think about this. The offense is terrible, do you agree? The offense is terrible, the quarterback's terrible.
Speaker 3:We have scored one touchdown.
Speaker 1:Four touchdowns in four SEC games.
Speaker 3:One touchdown in 15 quarters of play.
Speaker 1:Okay, so look so offensive coordinator before the guy who's currently there, liam Cohen Sharp, blowing it up in the NFL Yep, shannon Dawson was there before that. He's at Miamiami's doing great yep. Um, to me it goes back to like your ryan day thing yep. Mark stoops plays not to lose right, correct? He plays like iowa plays yep. The only time he has not done that was the Ole Miss game. It's fourth down and I'm saying punt the football.
Speaker 1:There's like five minutes left to go. It's like fourth and seven on our own 30-something and he goes for it, throws it, picks up like 40 yards. Even I'm saying punt the football. That's the only time he's ever done that. They went on and won the game. But to me we've entered the point like Calipari was in basketball. He's been here too long. You've done all you can.
Speaker 2:I do my very best to watch as much UK football as I can, sometimes when they play, sometimes Ohio.
Speaker 1:State.
Speaker 2:I'll switch back and forth on commercials and things like that. I'll tell you from an outsider's eyes what I see as the biggest observation is undisciplined kids, they are extraordinarily undisciplined.
Speaker 3:That is exactly what I said during the game, the first series. We're coming down the field, we have the momentum, crowd's wild for a Vandy game we took the ball. We're marching down the field and we get an unsportsmanlike and it got us out of field goal range and we lost the momentum. And I'm telling you, right there I looked over at Michael and I said we have lost this game here. I mean, and I hate to say this, it's the same guy. He's stupid, unsportsmanlike.
Speaker 1:Look, it's Dane Key, he's great.
Speaker 3:Can catch things nobody else can catch. But he's got a mouth. All the time he's mouthed it and this time he hit the guy in the back with a football. So you know, I was in college. I remember being so excited because we had Jerry Claiborne had just retired and guess what we were getting? We were getting Alabama's football coach Bill Curry.
Speaker 1:I remember that we were getting Alabama's football coach Bill Curry. I remember that I was so excited, I was fired up. I was like this is the tournament.
Speaker 3:He beat everybody but Auburn Yep, and they fired him. I was like it's all great, it's like Ohio State and Michigan, of course, yeah, and it's been terrible since then. But I'll just kind of leave it at this with Kentucky football.
Speaker 3:I've been there through the highs the lows, the Vanderbilt game with Joker, the whole deal. Yeah, that's a good game and what I have learned is I have I know you all have seen this, but I've decided I'm going to change the directive in my will. I want the Kentucky football players to be pallbearers in my funeral so they can let you down one more time.
Speaker 1:One more time.
Speaker 2:Let me down one more time, more time. Let me down one more time, boys that's great.
Speaker 3:Let me down finally. Let me down for good, absolutely that's, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:All right, you said you got a quote. I got it. Okay, I'm gonna share a quote from history, and one of my favorite figures from american history is, uh, teddy roosevelt.
Speaker 1:I love teddy roosevelt yeah, big fan, yeah, big fan, um you don't get on mount rushmore for nothing.
Speaker 2:No, uh roosevelt said once and and I love this and because it kind of gets into what we talk about a lot on this show and and just kind of, I just I'm just gonna let it go where it goes Teddy Roosevelt once said that comparison is the thief Of joy. Comparison Is the thief of joy. What do you think about that? Fun fact no, cricket.
Speaker 3:That's not what I expected when he said he's got a special quote.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I see the point behind it Because. I mean, if you compare your sports team To another sports team, what's great for UK Is not great for Ohio State. So, for example, if Mark Stoops Would make Kentucky 9-3 and be competitive against Georgia and be competitive against Tennessee, Kentucky fans would be fine and he'd have a statue out in front of Kroger Field.
Speaker 2:Colorado Stadium If and when Ryan Day goes 9-3, he will be fired.
Speaker 3:And if it's to Michigan State, he'll be fired. Yeah, but see, here's the way I look at that quote. You know I am completely at peace with how I live my life and how I am. There's plenty who aren't, and then there are people out there that are too busy trying to compare what they've got or how they live compared to me, as opposed to just appreciating for what they have and what they've got.
Speaker 1:Don't you wish you knew you were in competition with some of these people?
Speaker 3:I wish if anybody was in competition with me they'd tell me right, Right, I've got somebody in competition with me.
Speaker 1:He's not said he is but he is.
Speaker 3:Well, the problem is, you never know, I guess, right, right, because they're not going to say it right? Just hey, keep me in here, let me know I'm in a competition. But that's the keeping up with the Joneses thing, right? Yeah, I'm going to sit around and I'm going to worry my life about what everybody else is doing, as opposed to enjoying what I have and what I can do myself.
Speaker 2:Well, Because you know, it's okay to disagree with some aspects of that. Just because Roosevelt said it doesn't mean it's gospel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does. I mean, that's like if you said, just because Reagan said it doesn't mean it is.
Speaker 2:Well it is. Oh, no, no, that's true.
Speaker 3:It is. Hey, look guys hey, I'm serious here. No, that's a different story. That was a different story.
Speaker 2:No, so the thing I I think about our, our best of show and when we do brackets and when we.
Speaker 1:You know, comparison in that instance is a giver of joy.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, we love to be able to compare because, you know, ultimately I, I think I I can agree with both things. I agree with what you just said, chris Sure, you know you can be really happy with you know it's your life, man.
Speaker 3:Live your life and have fun with it. Enjoy your life. If it's how you have it, it's fun Yep, it's great. But if I'm going to sit around and compare myself to everybody else, everything I do, how much money I make and, and you know, you know anything where, if I'm always going on vacations and all this stuff, and somebody sits back and just judges you for it, then they're losing joy out of their own life, because they could appreciate what they're doing Right.
Speaker 2:Exactly, they just snuck one past Vazzy, it's three. One.
Speaker 1:That got me back into the appropriate position gambling.
Speaker 2:That's beside the point. So I heard that quote and where I actually heard it from was Chip Kelly. Really, who is the offensive?
Speaker 1:coordinator for Ohio State.
Speaker 2:He actually came out in an interview and said that, because we were talking about comparing the two running backs or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And he said comparison is the thief of joy. Let's enjoy each kid and each player for what they bring.
Speaker 1:And I was like yeah, let's see that that's interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's interesting man. So anyway, don't mean to get too heavy, but I thought that was awesome.
Speaker 1:No, no that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I heavy but I thought that was no.
Speaker 1:No, that's good, yeah, yeah. So I was thinking we could do a bracket of best presidents, but I think we would all agree on who wins it before the bracket came out oh, absolutely william, henry harrison he's the man. Every day. I was thinking taft was the man. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, because wasn't he the fattest yo hold on william.
Speaker 3:Henry harrison got got pneumonia at his inauguration speech and died six weeks later.
Speaker 2:Exactly that's what makes him the best.
Speaker 1:He was in office so little about a time.
Speaker 3:I come in hard and I get out fast. Oh my God, that's so funny oh yeah, or we could go Taft.
Speaker 1:He's the chunkiest Yep and he's from Ohio.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, ohio being the state of presidents, how many presidents are from the state?
Speaker 1:of Ohio.
Speaker 2:Six Eight.
Speaker 1:Really Eight presidents Name them allegedly. Come on, come on Back in the day.
Speaker 2:I could, but now I've killed that brain cell Sacagawea. Yeah, that's right, martin. Van Buren is one of them.
Speaker 1:You know, there was a gang, the Van Buren boys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Exactly, rutherford B Hayes, ulysses S Grant Grant was from Ohio. I didn't know that oh yeah, grant was from down around where my grandma lived, down around Georgetown.
Speaker 1:Which one was around Lima.
Speaker 2:Right, that was a little bit south of there. South of Lima. South of Lima Does that mean whenever we get to talking about south of lima? Does that mean?
Speaker 1:that the podcast is over. Well, I mean, I think that people need to know what presidential candidates have been from or in lima, because it's so important, well, especially with in regards to what we're talking about absolutely no, no question about it, I agree.
Speaker 3:I mean, we've got to be careful what we say and who we say it to. By the way, roosevelt's best quote, I think, is let the strong survive, let the weak die. Fair enough.
