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What if the greatest wrestlers of all time were never in the spotlight they deserved? Join us as we spotlight the unsung heroes and those who perhaps basked in a bit too much glory in the world of professional wrestling. From the sheer talent of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, who wowed audiences without the need for flashy gimmicks, to Jake "The Snake" Roberts whose innovative DDT move became the stuff of legends—these are the stories you need to hear. Reminisce with us about unforgettable moments like Jake's cobra incident with Randy Savage and enjoy a few laughs over his backstage snake phobia.

We turn back the clock to celebrate the technical brilliance and ring antics of Jeff Jarrett in WWF, and the high-flying Midnight Express, whose matches continue to inspire. Delve into the chaos of ECW with New Jack's nail-biting scaffold match and the enduring legacy of Arn Anderson with the Minnesota Wrecking Crew. As we journey through the careers of these wrestling greats, we'll also pay homage to charismatic figures like Bobby Heenan and the 'Bushwhacking' antics of the Bushwhackers, capturing the essence of wrestling's golden era.

As the debate heats up, we confront the controversial opinions surrounding wrestling's overrated stars. Is Lex Luger's fame justified, or does Sid Vicious's legacy hold more weight despite his infamous injury? We also explore Goldberg's spear move and the polarizing careers of Sting and Bret Hart. Our conversation is loaded with humor, nostalgia, and passionate viewpoints, offering a refreshing take on wrestling's most iconic personalities. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just curious, this episode promises to reignite your love for the spectacle that is professional wrestling.

Speaker 1:

three guys around the table and by three guys.

Speaker 3:

We're talking about three friends a lawyer, an engineer and a school superintendent and just like our personalities, our opinions vary and we certainly don't always agree.

Speaker 2:

Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of, things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around so this episode, we're going to either lose some people right off the bat or we're going to gain a whole lot more because we're going to talk about wrestling. We haven't had a good wrestling episode, wrestling Wrestling Our producer, rick Mellon, down in Florida. This one's for you, rick. I know you're going to enjoy this topic. We're going to talk about first, the most underrated wrestler of all time, and then we're going to get into who's the most overrated wrestler of all time. So, beginning with underrated, what are we all thinking? Underrated, underrated.

Speaker 2:

In other words, you already got one, you go ahead, you start it Honestly.

Speaker 1:

I looked at a list. There's some lists online. I looked at a list. There's some lists online. I looked at a couple of them.

Speaker 2:

I'll start out with one that first time I ever saw wrestling I was in sixth grade. It was gorgeous, George at the Palladium?

Speaker 1:

Was it in black and white?

Speaker 2:

First time I ever went and saw it live. It was black and white. This person was ever went and saw it live. It was black and white. This, this, this person was come on, that's funny.

Speaker 3:

He was in the main event.

Speaker 2:

He probably watched it switch to color why and it was ricky, the dragon steamboat and he was one of my favorites growing up.

Speaker 1:

He what was his shtick?

Speaker 2:

well, I mean, that's just it. He was just a um. He really didn't have much of a gimmick at one point, he used to bring out a komodo dragon at one point, but really it was and it may have been more of an iguana, I really I think it was an iguana. So but, but anyway, uh, he didn't need a shtick Because he was so talented. I mean, my god, strong, fast. I still say, the greatest wrestling match I ever saw Was in Wrestlemania 3 and it was not Hulk Hogan vs.

Speaker 2:

Andre the Giant. It was Ricky the Dragon. Steamboat Versus Macho man. Randy Savage, macho.

Speaker 1:

Man. Do you remember what happened between ricky the dragon steamboat and macho man? Randy said this is way before me I didn't remember. I'm an attitude bell you remember, jumped off the top rope, hit ricky the dragon steamboat in the throat and the throat yeah yeah, it's a big deal. I remember that, yep way before me. I've learned you're older than I am, so that's not true.

Speaker 3:

I didn't start watching until like but 90. You didn't start watching.

Speaker 2:

Until two years ago he was a late bloomer, so you know he, he could have been a multiple time world champion. Everyone loved him. He was universally respected. If you ask anyone who was the best worker they ever worked with, Ric Flair will say, oh, Steamboat. But the thing is he wanted to have a normal life, so he had a wife and kids and he would step away and would be at home.

Speaker 1:

It's because he got hit in the throat with the bail Exactly. He had no time off.

Speaker 2:

So that's mine. It's maybe kind of obvious, but when I think of an underrated wrestler.

Speaker 1:

Did he ever win the title? I know he won the Intercontinental he was the Intercontinental champion, but I don't know that he ever won that. I don't know that he ever did.

Speaker 2:

I know he won the Mid mid-atlantic championship at one point, but I have no idea. So me that's my.

Speaker 1:

That's my first underrated one so do you know who tops the list of the sportsters, list of the most underrated wrestlers?

Speaker 2:

um jake the snake roberts well, there's a guy who was never the world champion. No, and he wrestled for decades, and I would argue that he had the most innovative wrestling finishing hold of all time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the DDT was great. Everyone else has copied it.

Speaker 3:

No one else did it before him, and he was terrified of snakes.

Speaker 1:

And how awesome was it that we bring back Macho man Randy Savage, because he got bit by the snake. Yes he did, did you see the documentary.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I did.

Speaker 1:

You gotta do this.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I was afraid of that snake. Brother Jake slapped that snake around and then it bit me. Are you sure that?

Speaker 3:

snake's Not venomous. He goes. We're going to find out.

Speaker 1:

I mean, but can you imagine just sitting there and letting a snake bite you? I got better things to be doing, and that was not like a little garden snake.

Speaker 3:

That was a cobra. It smacked it around a little bit, it was crazy.

Speaker 2:

And Jake said, yeah, I slapped the heck out of that snake.

Speaker 3:

We had to carry it around, the gunny sack, anyway.

Speaker 2:

And then they couldn't get it off.

Speaker 1:

Right, I remember that.

Speaker 2:

So I would agree, though, Jake the Snake.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think he's good. That's a pretty good one. That's a solid choice. I'll tell you what that was.

Speaker 3:

number one on that list. You know Jake the Snake I was just talking about him earlier. Man, he is fired up about the Honky Tonk.

Speaker 2:

Man.

Speaker 3:

Yep, Because you know when he hit him with the guitar, that wasn't a fake guitar, a cutaway guitar. Yep.

Speaker 1:

Do you think that's true?

Speaker 3:

I think there's some validity to that. Listen, if you watch anything right now with Jake the Snake on it, oh, he's all about it. He is and he said he got him addicted to pain pills because of it. He blames everything on Honky Tonk man, yeah, which I think was one of the worst gimmicks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but anyhow. Yeah, Shake, rattle and roll. I pick a mean guitar, wear blue suede shoes.

Speaker 3:

You ought to hear me singing them snakeskin blues, wasn't he like Jerry Lawler's?

Speaker 2:

brother-in-law or something. Yeah, he was some kind of relation to him, but there's a lot of really good shoot interviews with him. And that guy is bitter, by the way.

Speaker 3:

Well, he should be the Honky Tonk man, but he was terrible anyway.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think he was a very good wrestler at all and the gimmick was so bad that it was good just because it made so many people angry. It is a great heel when he came in they tried to make him a good guy.

Speaker 3:

And everyone was like, oh, this guy's an idiot. You know, I liked uh, and I may be again my, my knowledge is so limited on this. I think Jeff Jarrett was underrated while he was in the WWF.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Because he came out of. My favorite thing about Jeff Jarrett is when he hit the Beetlejuice. Oh yeah, that's terrible. That's my favorite thing. Yeah, I had the opportunity to meet and talk to him.

Speaker 3:

Who Beetlejuice? No, Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker 1:

And the other strange thing about Jeff Jarrett is how he and Kurt Angle swapped lives.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Legit true story. Legit swapped lives. Now he was out of Memphis Wrestling, wasn't he?

Speaker 1:

Didn't his dad run that?

Speaker 3:

Jerry.

Speaker 2:

Jarrett, yeah, he ran that territory.

Speaker 1:

Jeff, now if I'm not, not mistaken.

Speaker 3:

Isn't he involved in aew? He is. Yeah, I gotta tell you I I loved watching him. Of course, how many guitars will ever match all of them, every match, right? But I I think he was. He was a great technical wrestler and he was, you know, not big, but he was.

Speaker 2:

He was strong, but he wasn't big, but he could move though I'm gonna come in with another underrated and this is actually a tag team. Specifically one of the wrestlers in the tag team. Oh, you didn't know, but the tag team overall, no, oh, the Midnight Express managed by Jim.

Speaker 1:

Cornette.

Speaker 2:

Louisville's own.

Speaker 1:

Who is still?

Speaker 3:

better.

Speaker 2:

Beautiful. Bobby Eaton was an incredibly gifted wrestler and he had two partners over the years. His first partner was lover boy Dennis Condry.

Speaker 1:

I remember him and then after he moved on.

Speaker 2:

It was Sweet Stan Lane who was out of Florida.

Speaker 3:

These names were fantastic, sweet.

Speaker 2:

Stan Yep, beautiful Bobby and Sweet Stan. The Midnight Express. They were tag team champions forever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and go back and team champions forever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and go back and watch some of their matches. Man, they were, uh, they were legit, they were really good. They, they wrestled in the in the yes they wrestled in the first ever scaffold match against the road warriors. In a match that road warrior Hawk wrestled in even though he had a broken foot and he went up 30 feet onto a scaffold. And in that match Jim Cornette took a fall from the scaffold.

Speaker 3:

Oh wow, yeah, Broke his leg, I think, but he wrestled at one time though, didn't he?

Speaker 2:

I don't think, cornette ever did.

Speaker 1:

My favorite scaffold match was in ECW. New Jack yeah with New Jack Was in ECW New Jack, yeah with New Jack. He tased the guy up there and just was like boo.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

It happens.

Speaker 2:

It's surprising you didn't kill that guy.

Speaker 1:

I think he tried to kill him. No joke, I think he tried to kill him.

Speaker 3:

I'm surprised nobody died in ECW when they stacked eight tables high but New.

Speaker 1:

Jack was. That dude was crazy, yeah now he died recently. Yes, he did yep, uh, he, he did. Now I went back to the list. This is number 17 on the list the bushwhackers no, but the greatest royal rumble match ever walk straight into the ring, go straight across, get thrown across top rope walk straight back when that book that was luke. Yeah, it was the greatest royal rebel appearance ever. Yeah, but who you got? A guy I hated when I was young okay, hated, yep, but was fantastic wrestler Arn Anderson.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, he was technically man strong.

Speaker 1:

Nobody does a spine buster as good as he does, and nobody has ever done one.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And I didn't like him because he was part of the four horse.

Speaker 3:

Isn't that Ric Flair's brother-in-law? No, no, I thought there was a relation there.

Speaker 1:

He's big on Twitter. Still, arn Anderson is.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So the Minnesota X there, so he's big on twitter still arn anderson is.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, so the minnesota x. My mistake, sorry, I'm gonna go way back on you boys now. The minnesota wrecking crew in the 70s was ollie and gene anderson 70 exactly ollie and gene anderson and after, uh, gene retired, ollie brought in arn anderson and I don't know if there was ever a real relation, but they continued on being the Minnesota Wrecking Crew, and then they phased Oli out because he was old, and Arne they brought in Tully.

Speaker 3:

Blanchard Arne was fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and when they went to the WWF as the Brain Busters, him and Tully Blanchard, managed by Bobby Heenan they became the champions there.

Speaker 3:

Bobby Heenan looked rough last time I saw a picture of him. Bobby, the brain, half his jaw is missing.

Speaker 2:

Unfortunately, he's passed.

Speaker 3:

All his jaw is missing.

Speaker 2:

It is Awkward. If you ever want to watch something good, go Google Bobby Heenan shoot interview. Go Google Shoot interview. Google Chris, you got another one?

Speaker 1:

Are you going to say the road dog, jesse James? I'm a big, the only thing he was good at was an intro and the pump handle.

Speaker 2:

There was no such thing.

Speaker 3:

That's the worst wrestling the worst, are we talking underrated still.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then we'll go over.

Speaker 3:

I would say I was thinking about JBL. I thought Bradshaw was a good wrestler. He had the build, he was big, strong, but they didn't do anything. He never got a push. He had the black cowboy hat and he was from Texas.

Speaker 2:

He was with the APA, with Ron Simmons, I got nuts.

Speaker 3:

But I think I'm going to go with JBL. Well, he was Bradshaw back, then I'd go with Bradshaw.

Speaker 1:

He never got any push at all. I thought you'd be a D'Lo Brown kind of guy.

Speaker 3:

If there was no way of camera in here.

Speaker 2:

We need video for this.

Speaker 1:

Listen, if we get video, can we do Pickled Pig's Feet? Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

You know, the only thing good about the nation of domination was when the rock was rolling his eyes, when ron simmons was talking. Yeah, he's like you know.

Speaker 2:

So all right, so we move then to overrated are there any overrated? I think that there are. There's a lot wait, honorable, think that there are lots, honorable missions, what about Gilbert? That was the funniest gimmick I will give you that. Awful I will give you that that is the funniest gimmick, maybe of all time. Yeah, I mean, everything about it was perfect. It was Perfect spoof, absolutely, and the guy's name was Dwayne Gilbert.

Speaker 1:

And they're chanting his name when he's coming out Dwayne Gill, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Gilbert, gilbert, overrated, overrated. I'll jump in with one. Hit one, the Rock and Roll Express. If the Midnight Express were criminally underrated, the Rock and Roll Express is the most overrated tag team ever. I could beat up both of those guys when I was 16 years old and weighed 170 pounds.

Speaker 3:

Back in the 30s? Yes, 18.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I'm sorry, those guys were weak. They never should have.

Speaker 3:

He's got that Milky Way face on right now what's going on?

Speaker 1:

This is a get off my lawn kind of face. They were terrible, he's so angry.

Speaker 2:

They got such a push and everyone you know what their finishing move was the double drop kick. And neither of them would ever touch either. You know.

Speaker 3:

Is it as good as Hogan's leg drop?

Speaker 2:

It was way worse. Hogan's leg drop, it was way worse.

Speaker 1:

Hogan's leg drop. At least he had a couple legs, that's true, that's true, that's true, that's true. So I looked at another list on this, one Yep, and number one on this list was Lex Luger, you know.

Speaker 2:

I see some validity to that Lex.

Speaker 1:

Luger had the look he was a great man but he was not good at all Boy he doesn't have the look now have you seen him?

Speaker 2:

No, he's in a wheelchair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah but he was not a good wrestler. He could not get his finishing move half the time. I mean they would have to hold on to him to do the finishing move half the time the backbreaker. He was not very good, looked great and was a druggie Backbreaker. He was not very good, looked great yeah no, and was a druggie.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, and he's the reason Miss Elizabeth is on there with us.

Speaker 2:

Yes, you know Frankfurt Zone.

Speaker 3:

Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1:

Not a fan of him, so I don't disagree with that one being number one on the list. If I would go to one of those, shows where he's at right now.

Speaker 2:

you know, I'd go up to him and say thanks for killing Miss Elizabeth, you jerk and just hope that no one was around that could actually move, because he can't.

Speaker 1:

Right. What about Sid Vicious? I know he just recently died. He's on the list too.

Speaker 3:

I didn't like Sid Vicious.

Speaker 1:

He's another one that's a lot like Lex Luger. He was just a big dude, okay, and that's like, honestly, that's like the big show.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, big dude, couldn't really do much Big pump a pump same way.

Speaker 1:

When he first.

Speaker 2:

When you hook up holla if you hear me. So when he first came in, though as Scott Steiner back in the day before he got so huge, he could do a lot? Are you implying?

Speaker 1:

Are you implying Before he got huge?

Speaker 2:

That he may or may not have taken illegal substances.

Speaker 1:

I mean, those dudes were enormous.

Speaker 2:

I make no such implication, but if you have eyes you can make your own. I mean, those dudes were enormous. Do you remember the greatest thing with Sid Vicious, sid Justice, whatever he wanted to call himself at the time, was when he came off the top rope and broke his leg. Did you ever see that?

Speaker 3:

When he landed on his feet and went backwards on him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, that was one of the worst things I've ever seen. Yeah, but no, I would agree he was overrated.

Speaker 3:

I think Sting was overrated, Really yeah. I think Sting was overrated, Really yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think Sting was overrated.

Speaker 1:

Sting. I thought was pretty good. I thought was pretty good too.

Speaker 2:

Now I didn't like his finishing move.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the scorpion death lock which became the sharpshooter.

Speaker 3:

Which, by the way, no tap outs, no submission holds, should ever count. He used to do the stinger splash into the corner and then into the scorpion death lock, which was just the it was.

Speaker 1:

It was Bret Hart's, you know. Finisher.

Speaker 3:

Again, I'm not a Bret Hart guy.

Speaker 1:

There's some big names on this list that they're saying are overrated. I think Bret Hart was overrated.

Speaker 2:

Oh no way, bret Hart was Bret.

Speaker 3:

Hart. I didn't. I didn't like Bret Hart Terrible, but he was a great wrestler excellence of execution and he and bob backland thought they were better than everybody else, like bill goldberg's, on this list of being overrated.

Speaker 2:

He just did the spear and that's it yeah, he, and he worked stiff, I mean yeah I I would say he was overrated, but he got a heck of a push because he had the look, he had the pop yeah, yeah, this thing says he didn't have any charismatic or mic skills and he didn't have any wrestling skills.

Speaker 1:

that's true, true, jeff Jarrett's on this list being overrated.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah.

Speaker 3:

What do you?

Speaker 2:

think about Ken Shamrock. Well, I think in real life he was.

Speaker 1:

In real life he was a bad hombre when he got into wrestling.

Speaker 3:

he never did any mics or anything, he just would show up, and of course he wears gloves right His grappling gloves.

Speaker 2:

I would say Doink the Clown would be one of my overrated.

Speaker 3:

Can we just talk about the oddities in general? Terrible. Yeah, except for when Sable hooked up with him, because George the Animal Steel.

Speaker 1:

George the Animal Steel was fantastic.

Speaker 3:

Let me go chew the turnbuckle.

Speaker 1:

What about King Kong Bundy?

Speaker 2:

King Kong Bundy Well.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I didn't know it was that funny. He's dead now. I mean, why is Mark laughing Because?

Speaker 2:

we had a family friend who was in a car accident. He was hit by King Kong Bundy. Oh God.

Speaker 1:

Was King Kong Bundy in a car? Yeah, he was. Was he just doing the spot?

Speaker 2:

He was driving and he was over the limit and crashed in.

Speaker 1:

The weight limit, speed limit he's a big dude, yes.

Speaker 3:

And hurt our friends back and he sued, he got a bunch of money he did. There you go In cash. In cash. Can we talk about the worst gimmick?

Speaker 1:

The worst gimmick Super.

Speaker 3:

Z In WWE.

Speaker 1:

Oh, f-e Super Z.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, I've got one. Super Z's terrible, I've got one. You may not remember it. The Red Rooster, terry Taylor, was a really pretty decent wrestler in NWA WCW. Went to the WWF. They made him put a red thing on his head and he became the red rooster? No, it's like the rooster thing.

Speaker 1:

I got a couple in this that were terrible. Gold dust was terrible.

Speaker 3:

That's what I was thinking of, but didn't he do that to irritate his dad though?

Speaker 1:

He irritated everybody how about the Blue Blazer.

Speaker 3:

How bad is that? Because Owen Hart was such a good wrestler man. But did or did not? Did Mr McMahon do that because of the whole Montreal screwjob and the way Bret Hart acted?

Speaker 2:

That's the rumor on the street.

Speaker 1:

I don't think so, because he made him bring it back this was a group that I was not aware of until the last time we went to ovw. What's the guy's name in ovw? Who's kind of running it now?

Speaker 3:

uh yes, uh, the ash.

Speaker 2:

Uh, it's not ashley's lashley. No, no, oh, who is it?

Speaker 3:

dog bash no, basham basham, basham basham, doug basham Basham.

Speaker 1:

He was part of a weird tag team group that I didn't recall and they won.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they were like into like domination and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And then they wore like chains. They wore like leather masks and chains. That's terrible. Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 2:

That's not good.

Speaker 1:

You know the Bushwhackers were. They're funny, but they were terrible.

Speaker 2:

They were not a great team because by the time they got to WWF they were old. I mean, back in the day they were like hardcore wrestlers and they were known as the sheep herders. I'm throwing some hey, wow. I'm throwing some. Wow, I'm throwing some old school wrestling history at you From the 30s. And they were actually. I mean, they were really.

Speaker 1:

Did they go see Jesus when he was born? But as soon?

Speaker 2:

as they got to WWE, of course Vince McMahon goes. Oh sheep herders.

Speaker 3:

No, you're the Bushwackers. You're going to do this.

Speaker 1:

That's so bad. It was so bad. It was so bad, it was so bad. Um, how about? Uh, you know what I used to love, though? I used to love, like nikolai volkov in in wcw, um old school nwa when it was russia against america, oh yeah and like the iron, sheik hogan, taking the title from the Iron. Sheik and things like that.

Speaker 2:

I got one for you. How about an overrated that became legendary in a different gimmick, but when they were in this previous gimmick and I'm talking about Kane- he was awesome. He used to be Isaac Yankum DDS.

Speaker 1:

Terrible, and then he became Isaac Yankum DDS Terrible, and then he became Kane. And then he became Kane. We'll have about stunning Steve Austin. Steve Austin was that way too, and he became Stone Cold.

Speaker 3:

Yep, you know what about the big boss man? Whatever happened to that dude. He passed away.

Speaker 2:

I'm just on a roll. Everybody you picked is dead.

Speaker 3:

Wow, Ray Traylor was his name and he really was a prison guard. Wait a minute. You're saying that he's still not wrestling, he is, unfortunately no longer with us. What was his real name? Ray Traylor Ray.

Speaker 2:

Traylor, I didn't know that. For whatever reason, I've got a mountain of silly knowledge.

Speaker 1:

Of useless information. Exactly who was the?

Speaker 2:

Mountie, that was Jacques Rougeau.

Speaker 1:

I remember that he was terrible.

Speaker 2:

Jacques Rougeau and Raymond Rougeau, the Rougeau brothers.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, this is good that you said that. So how about another gimmick that the first thing didn't catch? And then they evolved him and he became great, and I'm going to go first. Okay, okay, hunter Hearst Helmsley. Oh yeah, that was a terrible gimmick before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, paul Levesque, or whatever. Yeah, it was terrible. And then he became Triple H, triple.

Speaker 3:

H, and then the game, and now he's the biggest. He used to speak with a.

Speaker 1:

And he would just do this He'd wear his cravat and his ascot. The attitude error was great for him. Yes, it was.

Speaker 3:

Well, the whole Degeneration X thing was huge to get him going, the 1-2-3 kid that's a dumb one.

Speaker 2:

Shawn Michaels, who many will claim is one of the best wrestlers of all time, started out as a member of the Midnight Rockers.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what the greatest match that Shawn Michaels ever did? It was the match with Hogan, when he oversold everything. Hogan punched him and he jumps over the top rope like he died.

Speaker 2:

I should have been doing this all night. So who was Shawn Michaels' partner in the Midnight Rockers? It's a trivia question. Oh, I know this one.

Speaker 3:

Marty Jannetty.

Speaker 2:

Marty Jannetty Remember when he super kicked him through the glass and no one ever saw Marty Jannetty again.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, let's talk about Brutus Beefcake. That's a terrible one too.

Speaker 2:

Because before he became the barber and all that, he was in one half of the World Tag Team Champions with Greg the Hammer, Valentine and he was just Brutus Beefcake.

Speaker 3:

What was the guy's name? Again, I've asked this before the guy that had all the tattoos over his head.

Speaker 2:

Bam Bam.

Speaker 3:

Bigelow.

Speaker 1:

Bam Bam.

Speaker 3:

Bigelow.

Speaker 2:

He unfortunately, has passed away.

Speaker 3:

Well now, it's true, I'm just going to keep on.

Speaker 2:

He had a good time in ECW.

Speaker 1:

Can you imagine getting tattoos on your head?

Speaker 2:

Oh, go back to Steve Austin. Before he was stunning, steve, he was one half of the Hollywood Blondes the ringmaster.

Speaker 3:

He was the ringmaster.

Speaker 2:

He was the Hollywood Blondes. He was a lot before he became. Stone Cold.

Speaker 1:

What about the Outlanders? Oh yeah, I just see you all.

Speaker 3:

The real deal.

Speaker 1:

They're blowing up in AEW right now.

Speaker 3:

The real deal, yep. Got their start. Yeah, absolutely. I don't like how they did the Undertaker going from the Undertaker to Deadman Inc to American First time.

Speaker 2:

I ever saw him was in NWA and his name Mean Mark Calloway.

Speaker 3:

That was his gimmick.

Speaker 2:

He was just a big red headed dude.

Speaker 1:

Ugly dude the dude who should have never lost A Wrestlemania match.

Speaker 3:

Especially who he lost it to.

Speaker 2:

Well, that was fun. I enjoyed that. Everybody's dead apparently.

Speaker 1:

So this weekend we're going to go visit Some graves. I think there's some graves in Lima. Well, that was fun. I enjoyed that. Everybody's dead apparently. So, this weekend we're going to go visit some graves.

Speaker 3:

I think there's some graves in Lima as well that we need to go check out while we're up there, all those wrestlers I just mentioned, most of them and the one that's not dead is in a wheelchair, and he'll be there too, and, of course, we know that Lima is the home of Al Snow, who should be running OVW. You talk about underrated. He was underrated 100%. He had.

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