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Why Wrestling Matters More Than Ever: Unpacking the Elimination Chamber
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Join us for a rollercoaster ride into the vibrant world of professional wrestling! We kick things off by introducing our charismatic trio—a lawyer, an engineer, and a school superintendent—who dive headfirst into the action-packed universe of sports entertainment. What's more engaging than a heated debate about dramatic plot twists and character evolution? In our latest episode, we dissect the thrilling Elimination Chamber match, exploring its implications for the characters involved and what it means for passionate fans everywhere.
What better time to question the legacy of wrestling legends like John Cena? We dive into his remarkable status over the years, acknowledging how his career has seen a significant transformation and what that means for future generations. Our discussions also flicker between laughter and genuine admiration for these extraordinary athletes as we speculate on the excitement that awaits us at WrestleMania. From nostalgic highlights to current match analyses, the conversation flows seamlessly, weaving in personal reflections and predictions that keep listeners engaged.
As we wrap up with speculations regarding future matches and character arcs, we invite our audience to share their own wrestling stories and favorite moments. Whether you're a long-time fan or a newcomer to the world of wrestling, our episode offers a wealth of insights, humor, and comradeship. Tune in, and let's unleash the excitement of wrestling together! Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review!
Introduction to the Crew
Speaker 1three guys around a table, and by three guys.
Speaker 2We're talking about three friends a lawyer, an engineer and a school superintendent and just like our personalities, our opinions vary and we certainly don't always agree. Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of, things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around I don't know if we're going to agree tonight I think we probably will on some, some elements of what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1Yeet, uh, yeet, I think we're going to agree to disagree I think that the uh, the topic tonight is mainly going to be focused on wrestling yeet, yeet. Why are there only two of us saying yeet? Much better, because in the world of professional wrestling it's turned. It's not just wrestling now it's turned to everyday life.
Speaker 1Look, I think that the wwe is is on the uh an upward track. We're we're going to see, uh, this is great. I mean, this is great time to be a wrestling Saturday, saturday night Yep, elimination Chamber. Elimination Chamber. I was not surprised with who won. You and I were texting daring it, but we both thought John Cena was going to win Yep, but I was not expecting what happened after the match I was not either. As a matter of fact, there may have been a couple of holy.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1there may have been a couple of holy yeah it was, yeah it was. I mean, john Cena has been the baby face of WWE since his career, I mean for 15, 20 years.
Speaker 2I've asked this multiple times Is he the only wrestler that has always been what he's been? Roddy Piper was a heel, but was he always a heel?
Speaker 1No, he had some baby face moments, absolutely.
Speaker 2So I asked John Cena has he had some baby face okay? So I asked john cena has always been a baby face, had always as far as I know, he's always been a baby unless you go back to like ovw yeah right, right, first starting right.
Speaker 1But yeah, but no, I mean he's been the make a wish guy. He's been, he's been great. He has fulfilled more make a wish requests than anyone in history, right, yep, I mean, what the funny things about him. Have you seen these videos where he recognizes that people are videoing him, even though they're trying to hide it, and then he gives them like a?
Speaker 2slight side. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Well, he's a good he look.
Speaker 1he's a pretty good actor. Yeah, because he was able to flip that switch pretty effectively. If you don't know what we're talking about, right, I guess we should rehash that. Yeah, absolutely. So after the match was over, the Rock comes out and he's asking for John Cena's won the. Elimination Chamber. He gets to wrestle Cody Rhodes for the undisputed title at WrestleMania, correct?
Speaker 2Well, they always called an undisputed title at WrestleMania, correct? Well, they always call it an Undisputed title. Is there a such thing as a Disputed title?
Speaker 1Well, it's because they have so many titles now it's like the OVW they have a belt for everything. So Mark's favorite current wrestler, gunther, is the heavyweight champion. Okay, they have a heavyweight champion in the tag team but the Undisputed's. Above that, above that, yeah, and they have an intercontinental champion.
Speaker 2But this one's called the WWE champion Undisputed. Undisputed champion.
Speaker 1Okay, but if and Mark's guy and Cody Rhodes have wrestled each other before to see who wins, it all Gunter, okay, but here's my question.
Speaker 2And who won that?
Speaker 1You have intercontinental. All about Cody Rhodes Hang on. You have the heavyweight champ. Okay, so he's heavyweight.
Speaker 2So why do they have to say undisputed, because you have the WWE champ and then you have the heavyweight champ and you have the intercontinental champ.
Speaker 1I think you're way too logical, yeah absolutely, I'm just wondering why does OVW have the Rush division champion?
Speaker 2No, I get that.
Speaker 1Then they've got the country boy brewery champion of the week. But my question is, why does it have to use the word undisputed?
Speaker 2he's undefeated, never lost exactly. Yeah, I'm just being logical. I'm sorry, I'll continue. Yes, don't do that we're also talking about wrestling, that's true, that's true which, which I will admit for anyone listening, it is scripted but it is not fake, but it is real, yeah it's real, the outcomes are determined.
Speaker 1Yeah, so, speaking which it's sports entertainment. Well, let me, let me just again divert to that elimination chamber match. There was a spot in that match where, uh, and I'll tell you, I'd never watched an elimination chamber match before, awesome, pretty interesting.
Speaker 2When when CM. Pretty interesting when, when cm punk put his finishing move on, seth rollins, freaking rollins, freaking rollins.
Speaker 1He actually need him right in the face yeah, and I don't think those two really I really don't think they like each other. So back in the day cm punk would have just done it and he would have just been stiff, and that's just what it is. He actually you that. I saw a video. Afterwards he went to the referee and said check on him, make sure he's okay, right, because he he hit him for real with that knee uh so seth freaking rogers man got back with him with the stomp on the head I believe he did so.
Speaker 1So anyway, uh, cody rhodes told the rock. Uh, no, no, thank you, sir, he in a little more direct inflammatory word using a word that. That I can't believe, by the way, was I can't believe they put it on peacock with that yes, that was.
Speaker 2I mean he dropped an f bomb.
Speaker 1Yes, and then, as soon as Cena goes over to embrace Cody Rhodes, the Rock gives Cena the cut his throat off. And then came the nut shot, yep, and the nut shot heard around the world. That was on ESPN, that was on mainstream news. So what does this mean? Moving forward? I mean, obviously, in Wrestle you've now got super heel, because he's never been a heel before, so he is going to be super heel. Oh, let's talk about what's at stake at WrestleMania. Yes, if he wins the title, yep.
Speaker 2He will be undisputed.
Speaker 1And I expect him to win. Uh-huh, okay, okay, he breaks Ric Flair's record. Yep For the most 17 times he would be the 17th time undisputed never lost.
Speaker 2And he's going against Cody Rhodes, correct, who is ultra babyface right now. He is the babyface right now, 100%.
Speaker 1I take that back. I don't think Cena will win, I don't think they're going to have both titles change at WrestleMania and I am confident. Yeats, beating your boy Gunther. I think Gunther hangs on to the belt. If he does, then John Cena wins. Yep, yep, because you know, I think all this. Look, they kept Roman Reigns out of the Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 2Intentionally.
Speaker 1I think A, because he's not gonna lose one of those matches zero percent. So this is gonna set up a roman reigns, john cena, you know, do you think so?
Speaker 1I think that's what I said I think it could be, so I'm not sure, who knows. So I've seen a lot of talk on twitter. It's twitter to us, because we're old and correct. Could Could be CM Punk, by the way. So anyway, they think there's going to be a third person in the rock group because he puts three fingers up. When he did the slashing of the throat, he did it with two fingers. It was a little weird how he did it.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 1So they think there might be another person. Yep, and who do we think that could be? You've told me you thought it might be CM Punk. I think it could be because he is really mad, right now oh yeah, he's furious.
Speaker 2And there's a steel cage match on Monday Night Raw I saw that between Seth freaking Rollins and Feeny Weeny whatever his name is CM Punk, cm Punk.
Speaker 1Oh, what was that other guy's?
Speaker 2name, built a personality.
Speaker 1Yeah, whatever, that's right but cm punk right now, in all honesty, is probably my second favorite. Uh, behind gunter. But cm punk can work the mic like no one's business and I don't know, have we ever done a best? Of you know, promo cutting person I, we probably should do that. He's good. I think the Rock wins, cm Punk's good, la Knight's good. Currently, can anybody really beat Dusty Rhodes?
Speaker 2Dusty was pretty good. Anyway, let's not digress, that'll be a different show.
Speaker 1I don't think he's going to show up tonight.
Speaker 2He's the son of a bloomer.
Speaker 1He's the father of Cody. I thought he was in the green room. I'm confused. Let me tell you something. Boys, Don't be calling out the American dream. Dustin Rose, I am the American dream. I am the son of a plumber. Get out of here, Dusty. Yeah, Dusty, go back.
Speaker 2You'll be needed at another show.
Speaker 1I knew he was out there. And Jake Roberts. By the way, what happened to Jake Cutting the promo? Jake Roberts.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, well, he got weird. Okay sorry, man was good too, though, but anyhow moving on.
Speaker 1So different show. Do we think there's going to be a third person? I think so. It's weird how he's doing the finger. Yeah, he keeps doing the three fingers. I think there's going to be a third person, is it? Possible it's Roman Reigns. It's possible that it's Roman Reigns 100%, but I can't see it. Roman Reigns walks the line between a baby face and a heel.
Speaker 2Always, always, always, baby face in a heel Always.
Speaker 1Always, but because he is the tribal chief, I don't think that exactly. Would the wise man let him make that turn? I don't think so. I don't either. I don't think so, not for a second.
Speaker 2What do you think about the wise man? I don't know what that is Paul Heyman.
Speaker 1Oh, that's cool. He's the wise man, dude.
Speaker 2He does not care at all.
Speaker 1His Hall of Fame speech was the greatest wrestling Hall of Fame speech.
Speaker 2ever you know what you can do. I like when he wears the chili pepper necklace.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's part of being the-. That's the tribal chief.
The Discussion Turns to Wrestling
Speaker 2Yeah, he's awesome, paul Heyman's awesome, he holds that for Roman Reigns. Right, yeah, did you watch the ECW thing on Netflix? I Did you watch the ECW thing on Netflix? I don't think so.
Speaker 1I haven't seen it. Oh it's good it's really good.
Speaker 2ECW is great. That's where I first saw the Sandman.
Speaker 1So then we get into Monday Night, yep 48 hours after all this stuff. Yep, cm Punk comes out on Raw and just lights it up to start us. He's like, give me a name and I'll tell you what I got a problem with McAfee's over there going the. Rock, the Rock.
Speaker 2Mcafee's the best Is he not awesome on there?
Speaker 1McAfee's awesome. He's incredible on there.
Speaker 2It's hard to replace Jim Ross and the.
Speaker 1King.
Speaker 2But man, I got to tell you McAfee's great. I'm not a huge fan of.
Speaker 1Michael Cole? I'm not a Michael Cole guy to me. He brings no entertainment to you did you hear what he did on Saturday, right after the national anthem? Who Michael Cole? No, pat McAfee went nuts. He went off. It was in Toronto and they were booing the American national anthem and he started going nuts he went off on the fans the Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 2Love that guy.
Speaker 1This terrible country. They were just calling the Canucks out dude.
Speaker 2Love it, love it.
Speaker 1It was unbelievable Love it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But so Monday night CM Punk comes out. Yeah, Him and Seth Rollins get into it. They fight for 15 minutes to it. They fight for 15 minutes everywhere. Yeah, yep, uh, have you noticed they shortened up the entrance because it's on netflix since it's been on netflix the walkway for the wrestlers to go down I didn't notice it until you just said that.
Speaker 2But yes, they've shortened it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's very um but now punk on the mic was was awesome, called out everyone. I love how he calls the rock a broad, a bald fraud.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And and who was it. Was it drew McIntyre that said John Cena's bald spot needs his own zip code.
Speaker 2That's, that's why you know, that's why Cena turned right Cause.
Speaker 1I like drew McIntyre too. He's, he's solid Uh and I saw that there were things on Twitter saying that John Cena needed to bring back his goat to you, where he's bad now Could be. He's got to get rid of the jorts.
Speaker 2The jorts are awful. They're terrible.
Speaker 1He makes me look tan that guy is pale.
Speaker 2Is there another person on the planet whose jaw is as square as?
Speaker 1his it's square dude.
Speaker 2You could chisel him out of marble and it wouldn't be any more square.
Speaker 1I always say I'm so pale, I don't try to tan, I just try to neutralize the blue. But that guy is chalky. Are you getting ready for WrestleMania?
Speaker 2so we can go. Yeet, here's my opinion. Yeet, what's going on? You guys ought to see this. So I, in order to talk intelligently, yeet, yeet, more so than usual.
Speaker 1I did a yeet in a meeting today, just so you know.
Speaker 2About to do that. Nice had to go over.
Speaker 1People just looked at me like what Yeet Well received. I'm going to try to get one in every speech that I give in the public over the next three, four months. Graduation speech. Yeet. I'm going to get a yeet in in some way, shape or form, Any help.
Speaker 2So I'm trying to watch Money, Not Wrong, and I'm watching it and you know it's pretty good. I'm watching the beginning and it goes on.
Speaker 1Well, then they start having the not top-billed wrestlers Undercard.
Speaker 2And I told Greg earlier today I actually fell asleep watching it, and it's because I think there is such a fall-off. You know, during the Attitude Era, which is the only thing I ever knew, everybody was awesome, everybody had their own thing and it was cool and it was. It was just what it was. Now it's like, okay, all these, uh, all the female wrestlers have to have all this makeup and have to be, you know, the ice princess and or whatever they all are. And then I'm watching the, the tag teams, and I just screenshotted a couple of these while I'm sitting here because I am like the new day, uh, okay the everybody hates the new day kofi kingston's.
Speaker 2They remind me of the guy, the, um the guys that were in ovw, um the dresses like they're from the 80s. Yeah, they're now they're.
Speaker 1Those dudes are big they're in ovd.
Speaker 2Are in um uh tna, tna they're big.
Speaker 1They're big in TNA right now.
Speaker 2So one of the guys moves Kofi Kingston's moves or AEW. One of them. So Kofi Kingston does this. It's like the Ric Flair thing. He's walking like Ric Flair, and then they hold their hand up and they yell something. I'm like okay, and it wasn't good wrestling. And then I'm like who are the war raiders?
Speaker 1Well, they're trying to make them like road warriors, okay, and then I moved on and I'm like american made. Who are these people? And all the american flag crap it was. It was not a good car. Hang on monday night raw was not good. The best thing about monday night raw since it's went on netflix is usually the first 20 minutes, because it's a great promo when it first comes out.
Speaker 2But then, you know, then I moved on to alpha academy and there's some big guy named otis.
Speaker 1So yeah, otis, otis took on Gunter yeah, he fought Gunter.
Speaker 2And.
Speaker 1Gunter laid a smackdown on Otis. Then they have the Judgment Day the.
Speaker 2Judgment Day, that's Liv Morgan and Dirty Dom.
Speaker 1They're awesome.
Speaker 2Then you have the LWO Latino World Order with, I don't know, ray Mysterio.
Speaker 1Penta Ray Mysterio yeah okay, Penta. Penta's legit.
Speaker 2Penta's got some moves he's not our guy in OVW who does roofing on the side no, he is, he is not, he is not that, but my problem is I'm looking like the Kabuki Warriors. You've got all this. You know the. I understand having a few of the Nacho Libre. You know that's what it's called, right? No, that was a movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1You mean the Luchadors? Luchadors, I understand having the macaroni and cheese in there. I mean dude, I like nachos, I ain't complaining Anyhow.
Speaker 2Nacho Libre I was like what that's a movie title, Anyhow, but the Luchadors. I understand having Amadeus in there, maybe a little Rocky.
Speaker 1I understand the good, the bad, the ugly, anyhow, the Luchadors in there.
Speaker 2And you've always had. You know, when I was watching it that didn't exist, but back then nobody had to have a shtick. I mean, the shtick was Stone Cold, was just just a jerk, and you know they'd already gotten past the hunter host hurst helmsley being the you know um the weird englishman right, that's, that's gone. You know, and everybody was just themselves, but they had their own factions. It's like these guys are trying to. They're trying to make it more dramatic than it really needs to well in my opinion.
Speaker 1So let's what. What are your thoughts on the thoughts on the new tag team over there Saving Private Ryan? What do you think of them?
Speaker 2But think about it, the tag teams back then they weren't all. Everybody has to be a faction of something or everybody has to be feuding with somebody.
Speaker 1Look, here's what I would say.
Speaker 2It's just hard to watch right now.
Speaker 1I think there's some legitimacy to some of what you said, just because I don't think the card was really good it wasn't.
Speaker 2It was not monday night. Monday night, it was not.
Speaker 1No and we had a women's title change but it was, yeah, I was out before that happened me too, because again the card just went, but there are 15 or 20 top top end wrestlers uh, at the top and unfortunately we didn't get to see hardly any of those no, because you didn't see any of the bloodline.
Speaker 1You didn't see any. I mean, the best wrestler you saw was your guy right and he and he fought a nobody. Yeah, exactly, but I don't know if you saw this. Back to to Elimination Chamber. There was a women's match. Did you hear the crack when she hit her?
Speaker 2hair on Liv.
Speaker 1Morgan Golly, did you hear that? Hit her hair, this one girl, I don't remember her name.
Speaker 2But her hair. Oh she's the Asian girl that has the white fur coat.
Speaker 1It's Bianca Her hair's like 10 feet long. It's quartered off at the end, so it's like a whip and she uses it as a whip. She welted her. Yeah, she whipped Liv Morgan and I mean you heard it crash and I mean it had a huge whelp all the way around her. You should look that up real quick. Yeah, I mean she got beat to death in that match Liv Morgan did.
Speaker 1Yeah, they got after it. It was not a bad match. No, it wasn't, so you know. Having said that, so we're what, like, 55 days away from WrestleMania or something like that. Yeah, is it that long?
Speaker 2April 19th, 20th, something like that oh yeah, Jeez, Okay yeah. So something like that Okay.
Speaker 1So your prediction? You think your boy's gonna keep the title over? Yeet, I do. I think, gunter. Uh, you know I that it's too obvious I think, it's two weeks ago, I said there's no chance yeets not winning. Yeah, it's too obvious of that. I think that, uh, they, you know, they're gonna make him work a little, a little longer, for it may be one of those things where gunter gets a cheap win and then they have a rematch on Monday night, raw and loses the belt Right.
Speaker 1What about so, do you? So? Where do you stand on Cody Rhodes and John Cena? I didn't let him break the title I go, I go back and forth on this, um, if, if, sino ifo or seno if seno wins? If seno wins, there is some other element that causes it to happen sure it is not a straight up. He's not beating cody road straight up because they're going to take that then in a different direction, right?
Speaker 2I see what you're saying, right? I think so. Yeah, well, and there's rumors floating around that Stone Cold's coming back for WrestleMania. So I saw that on Twitter as well today, right, because it showed a picture of a groundhog eating something. And it says at WrestleMania, when you hear Stone Cold, the glass break, he drops the fruit and turns his head real quick.
Speaker 1That's funny, he he was interviewed on a podcast today and he said hey, if they.
Speaker 2If cody rhodes needs me, I'm there, I'm an extra body. I'll be there, you know that'd be cool that'd be cool to bring him back that would be pretty interesting.
Speaker 1So, and the other thing I saw is that it might be la night, might be the third person. That's interesting too. Well, I mean he needs somebody to put him over the top, he needs a push. He does. I mean I think he's great on the mic Yep. I mean I think he's good in the ring Yep. Two years ago I thought he was going to win the title, mm-hmm. And then he's like floundered. I mean he's on Friday Night Smackdown Right, that's the second tier. I mean he's good. And think about some of those guys that we're not talking about that are really good, like him like drew mcintyre um.
Speaker 2I like drew mcintyre, I think I like that guy. What?
Speaker 1about the rest of the bloodline, right? I mean 100, they're, they're all good, yeah, um, oh, who, who was the? Who was the other one? Aj styles. Aj styles is legit. I mean, there there are tons of sammy zane, did he get beat? Sammy zane got beat by kevin owens. Kevin owens, that dude's awesome. I mean, I tell you what I mean.
Speaker 2He's level of respect. He's one way up look, he's, he's.
Speaker 1He's a great heel, but he's one of my favorites he's a heel. Oh yeah, he's likable oh, I think he's awesome yeah but he just goes after all these people. I mean he does that package, pile driver on them and they say they're trying to kill them and things like that.
Speaker 2See, I thought Sami Zayn was. So is he a babyface? Because I hate that guy. Sami Zayn's a babyface. He used to be part Uso.
Speaker 1Yeah, it used to be Sami Uso, oh, okay.
Speaker 2I don't like that If he wanted to be in the bloodline.
Speaker 1I actually like Sam B Zane's big move where he runs across the ring and kicks you right in the face. Kicks you right in the face. He throws you into a corner, goes to the opposite corner, runs as fast as he can, runs his foot through your face.
Speaker 2You know what I like. I saw the other night probably one of the best finishing moves I've seen in a while. It's the pump handle.
Speaker 1Look, no, in a while it's the pump handle. Oh my god, look, no joke, no joke. Yep, and I hate the guy, uh-huh, I hate him, not only as a wrestler.
Speaker 2I hate him just as a person in general.
Speaker 1Okay, logan paul's finishing moves pretty good. I can't stand that guy he's, he's awful, but he's a terrible person and he's a terrible wrestler, but his finishing moves pretty good and and cm punk was the one that eliminated him the other day, I believe Right it was kind of a double team.
Speaker 1It was Someone else hit him with. Yeah, cm Punk was working with I can't remember who it was. And yeah, but one of my favorite parts of the Elimination Chamber is when it's CM Punk and John Cena in the ring together. John cena looks over to him and says I missed you. And it's cm bucks getting in the ring. And he goes I missed you too and then they just start getting after yeah, those two have great chemistry together.
Speaker 1That's funny I mean, but then they just start getting it. So if you, if you wanted to buy a wwe uh t-shirt, yeet, who would who or what would it be? If I was buying one right now? It'd be Dirty. Dom and Liv Morgan's t-shirt. Oh yeah yeah it's awesome. Okay, as bad as I hate this guy who was the guy that came out in the orange?
Speaker 2leather-looking outfit and the glasses when they were in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1That was Logan Paul. No, no.
Speaker 2Cincinnati, that was hey Logan Paul. No, no, no, no, no no, he was in yellow. Oh my God, oh, I'd get the Yeet, I'd get Cody Rhodes' shirt.
Speaker 1I think it's a cool Logan. No, no joke. Yep, mine wouldn't be Liv Morgan, mine would be Kevin Owens if I got one right now. Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
Speaker 2Bray.
Speaker 1Wyatt, I think I would do CM Punk, yep.
Speaker 2CM.
Speaker 1Punk's popular right now. Yeah, and his shirt's cool looking.
Speaker 2You know I have two pro wrestling shirts Yeet.
Speaker 1Austin 316.
Speaker 2I have an Austin 316, and I have an NWO shirt. I have an EWO shirt.
Speaker 1What was that one?
Speaker 2european world.
Speaker 1English majors that that deserves its whole own podcast.
Speaker 2But that was the educators world order I was a part of back in the day.
Speaker 1Wow, I like it yeah, on the education on the front it had the broken letters, ew, and on the back was a chalkboard and written in chalk it said it's time to learn your lesson. Nice again. That's where I'm getting this idea for the board of education from total time to learn your lesson absolutely so, uh, but that was. You know, that was back in the day. I was back in ohio, so uh, no, is that when you were in lima? Is that when it was or not?
Speaker 2that time there is no record of you being in that lima that I am going to answer that question on the record.
Speaker 1What about you, chris?
Speaker 2do you know when is it? You can go back december, but you know I'm on the record up there. So December of 28? 25.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeet Pretty excited about it. That's yeet right around the corner, yeet.