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Three Guys Around a Table and The Best Of…
Red, White, and Pet Peeves: A Candid Conversation About America's Birthday
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Three friends gather around a table to air their grievances about Fourth of July celebrations in true Festivus spirit. With Independence Day approaching, they dive deep into what works—and what definitely doesn't—about America's birthday party.
Fireworks immediately divide the group. While spectacular displays at iconic locations like Disney World, the National Mall, or over Niagara Falls earn respect, the seemingly endless neighborhood pyrotechnics that terrorize dogs and disrupt sleep for days on end receive unanimous condemnation. One host captures the sentiment perfectly: "I hate them. Look, oh, it's pretty. Oh look, a big boom thing went off and it's colorful. You know what I like? I like when people video it. Who in the hell is going to watch that video?"
The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as they share childhood memories of community fireworks displays, dangerous "bottle rocket wars," and one particularly ill-advised adventure involving a homemade cardboard tank that nearly ended in disaster. These stories reveal how their relationship with this quintessential American tradition has evolved over time.
What truly unites these different personalities is their love for Fourth of July food traditions—particularly smoking meat. They animatedly debate the perfect technique for ribs using the "3-2-1" method, share tips for pork butt preparation, and reminisce about baseball games that feel uniquely American when experienced during the holiday weekend.
As the conversation deepens, they reflect on changing attitudes toward patriotism since the 1976 Bicentennial celebrations, wondering aloud if next year's 250th anniversary will generate the same nationwide enthusiasm. Social media receives much of the blame for today's more divided atmosphere, with one host noting, "It's easy to be negative behind the screen."
Want to hear three distinct perspectives on American traditions, delivered with humor, occasional disagreement, and surprising moments of unity? This episode offers exactly that—plus some unexpected Japanese chocolate taste-testing at the end!
Fourth of July Grievances
Speaker 2three guys around a table and by three guys.
Speaker 3We're talking about three friends a lawyer, an engineer and a school superintendent and just like our personalities, our opinions vary and we certainly don't always agree. Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of, things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around much like festivus.
Speaker 2We have to have an airing of the grievances about the fourth of july holiday. We're getting close, it is two days away as we record this and hopefully we will publish tonight. But um, we got a lot of problems with the fourth of july in this country. Me not so much, obviously, from a historical perspective, the historical perspective is great. This is our 249th birthday in this country Fantastic, however.
Speaker 1Are we going to party next year for 250?
Speaker 2Oh there should be. I think we should I remember 200.
Speaker 1You remember 150 as well it is.
Speaker 3I do remember 225.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Fair and I remember what about 228? I don't remember making a big deal about it. I should have.
Speaker 2So, uh, so we're going to talk about the 4th of July and then just some some various rambling pet peeves. I think today it's today it's getting hot. People get a little anxiety, a little frustrated, work a little too hard. Some of us, Some of us, Some of us do. Others who are independently wealthy and don't have to work, don't have to work. But having said that, where would you? Like to begin.
Speaker 1Okay, fireworks. Yes, I'll start. Oh yeah, fireworks. What are your thoughts on fireworks? I hate them. What about? Do you like the public fireworks? I don't, or do you just not like fireworks in general?
Speaker 2well, look, yeah, hey, oh, it's pretty. Oh look, a big boom thing went off and it's, and it's colorful.
Speaker 3You know what I like? I like when people video it.
Speaker 1Who in the hell is going to watch that video? Nobody, nobody's ever, going to watch that video it's ridiculous. Did you all shoot fireworks when you were little? It's different now. Well, we actually Hold on. Now he's getting to the good part.
Speaker 2We used to shoot bottle rockets at each other At each other holding a stick.
Speaker 1Yeah, I've done that, I've done.
Speaker 2bottle rocket wars, Drive around the back of the truck and you know.
Speaker 1In Little Mud we were up on the hillside in the abandoned coal mine shooting bottle rockets.
Speaker 3What about in the creek, on your couch? That was abandoned in the creek.
Speaker 1Look, you had to have a place to sit. Oh, I guarantee it, but we growing up. Growing up, we weren't allowed to have fireworks Because my uncle had a thumb. He's a digit down. He's dead now, but he was a digit down because of fireworks.
Speaker 3Oh, that's not good. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because of firework, because of dynamite.
Speaker 1I don't get bogged down in details.
Speaker 3That's what I figured. Now the truth comes out.
Speaker 1I mean, why get bogged down in details? Now we know.
Speaker 2See, look, I called them boom-booms when I was a kid, so that stuck around with me. Yeah, sure they look so nice. Did you have the boom-boom room?
Speaker 1No, oh, so do you have a childhood memory with fireworks?
Speaker 2that's good or bad or indifferent. I never really cared for the really loud ones. I was always kind of a little yeah, what about you?
Speaker 3So we never had fireworks as a kid. At home, dad had firecrackers that he hid somewhere. Every once in a while he would pull them out. We'd be at the river and he'd bury one in sand and it would explode. Whatever.
Speaker 2I'd go to my cousin's house in Versailles.
Speaker 1Versailles.
Speaker 3We would go over to. Was that the palace?
Speaker 1They had to go across the pond.
Speaker 3We had to ride across the.
Speaker 2My destined cousin, louis the 16th.
Speaker 1They're over top of 60 in Versailles.
Speaker 3You go over and we used to go to the Versailles, we'd go to the little grocery store over there and buy the little spinners. She's a little spinner.
Speaker 1She's a little spinner.
Speaker 2I can't remember what they got them. They the spinners. She's a little spinner. You know what I'm talking about. She's a little spinner.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know what I'm talking about those little. I can't remember what they got them.
Speaker 1They got a name.
Speaker 3They spin. You know what I'm saying. But this is because you couldn't buy this stuff illegally, because good fireworks were illegal, but my uncle would go to Tennessee or something and bring it back. But anyhow, my cousin, and one memory I have and we play- with them all the time.
Speaker 3One memory I have is we found a piece of round pipe it could have been sewage pipe, I don't know what it was. It was a piece of metal pipe Pipe and we found an old refrigerator box or something and we made a tank with the gun sticking out and I thought you know I got a great idea.
Speaker 3Let's just put duct tape over the backside of the tube, so the fireworks will stay inside the tube and the smoke will roll out. That's pretty cool. So we go to do that, we hop in the tank. I mean, we're probably eight years old.
Speaker 1We hop in the tank. This is the engineer.
Speaker 3We hop in the tank and I'm like all right, let's put them in there. We throw a couple down in it, we get back inside and we're getting ready to fire the gun. Next thing you know all around us sitting inside the tank.
Speaker 1And.
Speaker 2I'm like I am burning up the day I die. I'm going to die. Well, we never bought fireworks as a kid.
Speaker 1But we would go.
Speaker 2Every year. The town had a fireworks display and fine, whatever. But here's where we're at as a society with fireworks. They sell them everywhere. They're legal, basically everywhere, right? People spend thousands of dollars and think they're putting on a show, for you know, macy's parade fireworks thing or whatever.
Speaker 3How about we do the Derby Festival? Let's compare it to that?
Speaker 2What's that called the Boom Boom Festival?
Speaker 3That's called.
Speaker 2Thunder Over Louisville.
Speaker 3That's Thunder Over Louisville which is the world's largest fireworks display.
Speaker 1Yeah, so we didn't have fireworks when we were growing up either. We would go to Archer Park you all have been to Archer Park. That's close to the Dairy Cheer Close. You all have been to my Archer Park that's close to the dairy chair Close. The one memory that sticks out to me is I remember riding in the back of the truck back to Little Mud after the Archer Park fireworks show and I remember freezing to death back there. I remember laying down in the bed of the truck because the wind was so cold.
Speaker 3Did you go by the Velocity Market? Yeah, yes, you did I remember going here and in the big city I don't know if I actually remember it.
Speaker 1I mean, it was this year I was private show they were putting on, or was this for the public?
Speaker 3this is in frankfurt, this one. They used to launch them off the private show. They launch them off the barge on the river. And uh, I was little I don't know if I remember it, or people told me about it, but uh, they lit the fireworks and I was little and I kept yelling uh boom, daddy boom, and was crying and scared to death and all that yeah, I guess I'm on line with your boom, yeah, boom booms no, not a big fan in in waverly they used to be the um the lions club, where it was where they took place.
Fireworks: Love Them or Hate Them
Speaker 2So you would go down to the big bear parking lot, which is, uh, it was a grocery store. Everyone parked in big bear parking lot. You could watch them down there. Then, later they transitioned and moved them to the river, uh, where there was a baseball field, and you go and park down there and watch them. Uh, having said all that, okay, great, I, I I'm not going to bash that kind of a show too much, if you want to celebrate Sure.
Speaker 2Great, it's the people that have been sending them off in this neighborhood now for three days. Are you a get off my lawn? Get off my lawn with those fireworks.
Speaker 1Now you want me to tell you, I agree, I don't like fireworks. I mean, down from us there's somebody who sets them off and I mean you think the world's coming to an end. But I'll tell you one of the coolest things I've ever seen with fireworks Two different things Watching them on the national mall in washington dc when that would be cool that was cool.
Speaker 1When we were up there, when janie and I lived up there, we watched them and that was a neat deal. Yep, and the second thing that was neat is have you ever flown on the 4th of july at night? Because janie and I have, you're in your plane and you can see all these fireworks down below from all these different places and it's pretty neat to see. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2Fireworks at Disney very cool.
Speaker 1Sure yeah.
Speaker 2Because it's a show. It's a lot more than just boom-booms right Fireworks over Niagara Falls. That's incredible, very cool. Never seen that. I did that on Canada Day.
Speaker 1Yeah, what's that all about it was fantastic, it was awesome.
Speaker 3I'll tell you where else I felt it was so cool, did you get some?
Speaker 1poutine. That same day I ate all the poutine All of it.
Speaker 2All the poutine Beaver tails or whatever.
Speaker 3Love beaver tails in Las Vegas over top of the strip. That's really cool.
Speaker 2Well, you know Billy Joe and Jim Bob firing them off down the street here. I'm not a big fan.
Speaker 3Sorry, but here's the problem. Though They've been firing them off for a week, yeah, and they're going to fire them off for another week, oh, yeah, okay, guess who doesn't like them. Any dog, that's right Any dog.
Speaker 1Luna doesn't care, luna's like. She won't even lift her head up.
Speaker 2Bruno can't hear so luna doesn't care. The ring general, yeah, he's not a fan and, by the way, uh I I should mention we're looking at the ring.
Speaker 1General the ring general gunther.
Speaker 3Uh, I'm, I'm a huge fan why is he wearing a smoking jacket?
Speaker 2well it, it's a wrestling robe.
Speaker 1Why are his hands not on him? They're separate.
Speaker 2Oh, that is Wow. They're off to the side. That's a little weird. This is a Elite Series WWE.
Speaker 3A symbol required.
Speaker 1You want to know something I do love about the 4th of July. What is that? Smoking and barbecuing and things like that.
Speaker 3Smoking meat. Oh okay, Thank you.
Speaker 2I didn't know where you were going with that. I'm down, I'm down.
Speaker 1That's my favorite aspect of the 4th of July.
Speaker 2So what's your favorite thing to smoke on 4th of July? My kids always want pork butt.
Speaker 1Always. Yeah, yeah his shoulder, though, come on, it's a pork shoulder why do they call it pork?
Speaker 2but it's a shot of boston butts where the name come from, because the bostonites have no idea where the butt actually is it's on my shoulder, I get it um but yeah, that's probably you know what I may do, one I mean, I like brisket the best, but yeah, my people like I might.
Speaker 3I might do one too, because I want to, you know, for me it's a help. Help your well, I'll take some of the old man across the street well, my smoker is permanently I mean, you were declared his son today, daddy, oh no, it's not even stepdaddy anymore. He's getting a little loose with that time so I would love to smoke some ribs.
Speaker 2Uh, oh I love some.
Speaker 1I like some ribs, but nobody likes them except me, my house.
Speaker 2My smoker is permanently stuck on 250 degrees you can do ribs.
Speaker 3I told you to get, I can order the whole control you can do ribs at 250.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, what three. Two, one, right three. One on for three, then wrapped for two and then yeah, you gotta watch it.
Speaker 1That may get them a little over.
Speaker 2That seems like it'd be a lot it can be a lot.
Speaker 3I love the drawback on those ribs. So you said probably two.
Speaker 2One point four. I'm more of a.
Speaker 3Two I'm more of a two, one and a half, 30 minutes yeah, yeah, I think that's what the last time was 245, by the way going back to gunther the ring general.
Speaker 2This is the first wrestling action figure I've purchased since I was, I think, 15 years old, so I'm pretty excited over a hundred years ago the last one was gorgeous, george back in 1953.
Speaker 1The last one was the founder of wrestling, oh my. God, well, we've uh what else You've been to a baseball game?
Speaker 2Yes, I just went to a Reds game where they actually won. It's one of the rarities.
Speaker 1Fourth of July. Baseball is awesome too. Fourth of. July baseball is where it's at it's American.
Speaker 2Um you know, With a hot dog.
Speaker 3Yeah, big Red Smokey. Did you get a Big Red Smokey?
Speaker 2I did not, oh my.
Speaker 1He was in the diamond. I was in the. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2What I like to refer to as the Chris.
Speaker 3Seeds, I'm sorry. Did you have the shrimp cocktail in your seat?
Speaker 2Actually it was a 140 game. So they had a Sunday brunch. So they had chicken and waffles and steak and eggs. So they had chicken and waffles and steak and eggs, no chicken and waffles was legit.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's pretty good, I gotta say they have the syrup on it.
Speaker 3No, no syrup.
Speaker 2Chicken and waffles legit. The syrup was off to the side, so you could just put it on whatever you want, everybody needs some syrup. Um, so yeah, baseball hot dogs, apple pie Chevrolet.
Speaker 1Well, I'm all, I'm all for all those but no fireworks, Nope.
Speaker 2What is your earliest memory of 4th of July? I mean, is it one of those firework things? Yeah, riding in the back of the truck. I remember I swear it was almost like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1When they signed the declaration, I was in Boston. That's right.
Speaker 2The Bicentennial of 1976. That's Ben.
Speaker 1Franklin, the great signature. I literally was not born yeah. So, the.
Speaker 2Bicentennial celebration. I remember it. I mean there was so much patriotism in the country, red, white and blue, everywhere, the quarters that had the you know, the old, the minute man on the on the back. Everything was just. It was different times and I remember that fourth of july like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1Well, it's been 49 years ago time out.
Speaker 3Boy, that's changed a lot now, hadn't it?
Speaker 1a little bit, just a little bit what uh we're at the point that people don't like each other.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah, I think it's safe to talk about in this room. What are you?
Speaker 1talking about in general.
Speaker 2Well, look, I, I don't discriminate look the the times, though at that time in in 76 it wasn't rosy, I mean. We just came out of vietnam, we just come off of. Uh. Gerald ford pardoning nixon. Gas was 48 a gallon and jimmy carter was getting ready to be the president. Interest rates were through the roof, and you know it was.
Speaker 1It was a wild time but everyone was everyone was excited about celebrating the country do you think that's the way they'll be next year for 250?
Speaker 2no, I don't, I don't I don't disagree. I don't disagree I think social media is the reason. I could not agree more. I think that giving everyone a voice where they can just go on and be negative um, it's easy to be negative behind the screen.
Disney, National Mall, and Special Displays
Speaker 3Yes, yep, say it to my face exactly why can't people just get along, yeah, yeah, but because, they get to say what they want whenever they want, with no consequences.
Speaker 2that's's true, um so nonsense, yeah, so anyway. Uh, we're almost to the midpoint of baseball season. Uh we're getting close to the all-star break next week.
Speaker 3Uh, the reds after next Cincinnati.
Speaker 2Reds have been doing a little bit better. They have absolutely Uh their cubs have not been doing as well. Uh, but the cubs still have a commanding lead in our bet. So I I mentioned to my two brothers who I went to the baseball game with right.
Speaker 1Um, I mentioned to both of them that I had this bet, right and so were they willing to pony up some cash for you, because they knew you're gonna lose the.
Speaker 2So mike. My brother actually said you need to do a bet where you do wins per dollar spent on salaries oh and I was like I'm already bored with that. I'm already bored with that conversation which one's mike the good one, oh yeah, but I gotta say my oldest brother will had a had a wonderful time at the game it was like we were all kids, again, again. It's the first game we all went to together since I was seven years old, 1978, 1878 I didn't know they even had baseball then.
Speaker 1Was that costly?
Speaker 2no, it was. It was riverfront. The first game of pete rose's 44 game hit streak. It was against the cubs and we were there at the game together and they both remember the game. I remember it as well. Um, but that's the first one we've been to all together since then, right so that's cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, so everybody's been to a game this year except me.
Speaker 2That's a problem, but the two that's a problem now for the birthday coming up in a month, are you going to?
Speaker 1probably not. It's not looking good really why yeah? It's not looking good.
Speaker 2It looks like I'm college visiting uh, well, that that does take some priority.
Speaker 1Unfortunately, um, even though, if you know, you guys know hallie was supposed to go to New York for a program at Pace starting next weekend. New York City Guess who. Best salsa in the world. Do you know what the greatest part of that trip was going to be? No, guess where the Cubs are playing next week, oh, come on Next weekend. No, yankee Stadium, yankee Stadium, wow, and I was going to go. We were dropping her off on saturday.
Speaker 2they played saturday night at yankee stadium fly back home on sunday, uh, but no, the thing is not happening, correct?
Speaker 3so another reason why I hate pace not good, I'm just gonna throw this out there we can still go uh, number one, yes, we can still go. Number two we can go to chicago, for God's sakes. We drove to Gatlinburg for an Ogledog for lunch.
Speaker 1I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 2I am too, and we got to go to the Hulk Hogan store in Pigeon Forge.
Speaker 3Let's go brother, let's go. Hey, I've got tomorrow off.
Speaker 1But how are we going?
Speaker 3to look. I'm in.
Speaker 1I'm driving we going to do this because now myron mixon has a barbecue restaurant in gatlinburg we can eat there and then I need a dog to go. So so we go to myron mixons and eat, we go to the hulk hogan store.
Speaker 2We get an ogre dog to go stop at public's and bounce done yeah, and make sure we get our knives sharpened that's a true statement.
Speaker 1That is a true statement, yeah I've never, you know, I don't think I've been to gatlinburg since since the last time we went, I haven't either.
Speaker 3Oh wow, I have Nobody's surprised by that. I'd like to go 12 more times.
Speaker 1I mean, nobody is surprised. Look, I've also not been out of the country since then. Oh, I have.
Speaker 2Three times just this past week. You know what?
Speaker 3The day I've had today. It seemed like I was in a couple of different countries. I was in a third world country, briefly today called Western.
Speaker 1Virginia Sizzling.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 1There's a video going around on Facebook that I've sent you boys. It talks about the worst chain steak restaurants. It says number three is Texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 2That's booze. I poo-pooed the video instantly. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3They said it's a $16 ribeye and it's dry with no flavor and it takes 45 minutes. I have never spent 45 minutes inside of the place ever, Texas.
Speaker 1Roadhouse may be the best chain steak restaurant.
Speaker 2And it's not even close. 45 minutes I mean.
Speaker 1Longhorn's good Yep it is. But it doesn't touch Texas Roadhouse, but Longhorn's way more expensive too, correct.
Speaker 3Exactly, but I can go to Texas Roadhouse Within 45 minutes. I can eat a dozen rolls, a salad, a steak, a baked potato. Peanuts oh yeah, and peanuts and get out of there. Yeah, they said oh, it takes 45 minutes.
Speaker 1He must have been who knows where that guy was. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Now Outback don't care for it.
Speaker 3You know it used to be good when the Victorious Filet was rolling and all that, but it's not any good.
Speaker 2And now, they're not any good, but Burns was number one. Yeah, and Burns was number one, yes. Is it for chain steakhouses. That's what it said. Was it B-U-R-N or B-E-R-N? No, it was B-U-R. Oh okay, yeah, I'd never heard of it. I'd never heard of Burns. That way, b-e-r-n-s is the steakhouse in Tampa.
Speaker 1And then what about the ones that I sent you today that had the most sanitation violations? I didn't see that one yet I don't care. Golden Corral was three. Yep, waffle House was two. Don't be knocking the Waffle House. Do you know what number one was? Popeyes?
Speaker 2That's just sad. That's just sad. I mean, how can you have health violations when you're frying everything to 8 billion degrees?
Speaker 1But look, their chicken sandwich is legit. Oh, it's good.
Speaker 3Just the regular one, not the spicy. The regular.
Speaker 2Look, boys, I'm the one that turned you on to this. Yeah, it's a good call I talked it up for a long time and now, finally, we went.
Speaker 3It's worth every bit of it.
Speaker 1So do you know what's going in at the West Banco I?
Speaker 3have no idea they're building a new West Banco by the old West.
Speaker 2Banco Right what have you heard Jaggers, is it? You know what that is? I don't know. I've eaten them in a little while. I don't know what that is. Do you know who owns?
Speaker 1it no, texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 2Oh, it's good.
Speaker 3I don't know what it is. There's one over on, are you?
Speaker 1sure, that's what it is. Because, I heard something different. I hope you're right. What'd?
Speaker 2you hear.
Speaker 1Freddy's.
Speaker 2Really.
Speaker 3That's the. It's kind of a. They're known for their sandwiches. It's kind of like a. It's like burgers and Chicken sandwiches, chicken and food sandwiches, but it's really good.
Speaker 1I wanted us to get a pop-out so we could have chicken on all corners, I agree.
Speaker 3Chicken corner I heard it was Jagger's, though.
Speaker 2Jagger's is run by Texas Roadhouse. I didn't know that and it's their casual place Right place right and they're popping up and they're.
Speaker 3They're doing one right over, literally right behind texas roadhouse's um headquarters off of the watterson loyal.
Speaker 2Yeah it's really good, well, really good um. I think we should but I could.
Speaker 3I mean it could be wrong I don't know where yeah, all right, I heard freddy's yesterday.
Speaker 1Freddy's, I've been there once I went to the.
Speaker 2I went to the rat infested one before it was rat infested.
Speaker 3The one out there by Costco. And I can't go back since then, I've only been once, and it was that one, and I've never been back.
Speaker 2Me too same deal?
Speaker 3When's the?
Speaker 2last time you ate at Frisch's.
Speaker 1About three weeks ago.
Speaker 3I always forget about it. Do you know?
Speaker 1When Janie and I are by ourselves, it's almost a go-to.
Speaker 2Really Absolutely. On Wednesday nights it's Brenner.
Speaker 1It's Brenner yeah.
Speaker 3Really yeah, that's awesome we go.
Speaker 1I mean, it's probably been a month since we've been, but it's an easy one for us to go to. She loves the Big Boy Burger and I get breakfast every time I go.
Speaker 2Yeah, boy burger, and I get breakfast every time I go. Yeah, so what?
Speaker 3breakfast. Look on wednesday nights.
Patriotism Then and Now
Speaker 1They have the breakfast bar. I don't like the breakfast bar. I don't like that. I I get. I get eggs and sausage or something like that. I get it every time and she likes the hash browns and I don't eat those.
Speaker 3Always forget about that place because you know I'm such a cracker barrel guy for breakfast.
Speaker 2You're such a cracker barrel guy leave off so, so we're what are we? Eating. All right, pass one around. If it's dark, I don't want it. Nope, it's white. Oh, let's go. So here you go this, you guys look all right. So we always have to end now with some kind of strange candy that we're tasting chocolate chocolate, you're reading it the wrong way right to left, one of my one of my employees.
Speaker 2Her husband just went to Japan and brought back some sweets for us, and so this is a box of Japanese Hokkaido. I can read it now Hokkaido, chocolate blanc et langue de chat. Hokkaido. I can read it now Hokkaido, chocolate blanc et langue de chat.
Speaker 3Did you just say lingua? I don't want lingua.
Speaker 1Did you say he's going to make me chat?
Speaker 2It says Ishia, guaranteed from Hokkaido with love, love and sweets.
Speaker 1So we're going to try some. What kind of chocolate is this? It's.
Speaker 2Japanese white chocolate.
Speaker 3Why is?
Speaker 1it yellow? Does it melt in my mouth, in your hand?
Speaker 2They're very well packaged they are very well packaged.
Speaker 3I need a samurai sword to get into it. Seriously, why is it white and yellow?
Speaker 2I can't get into it.
Speaker 3You need a samurai sword.
Speaker 1It looks like a saltine cracker.
Speaker 3It does. It's a cookie.
Speaker 2It looks like a cookie with chocolate in it.
Speaker 3It's like a little cookie wafer.
Speaker 2All right, it's cookie surrounding white chocolate.
Speaker 3There's no chocolate on it, hardly at all.
Speaker 1It's in the middle. I like the texture, oh yeah.
Speaker 2I like the texture. Oh yeah, I like the taste. I'm pretty.
Speaker 1I'm pretty down with that.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's good, yep, I like the texture a lot. If you're not down with that, I got two words for you. Let me ask you this oh, that's good.
Speaker 1One more thing, since we're ending on chocolate. Have you guys seen the new roller coaster at cedar point?
Speaker 2I saw a video of it, but there's zero chance, I would get on it not.
Speaker 1Not one possibility. Would I get on it. You climb up this hill, it flattens off and then it pauses there for seven seconds. Then the track lifts up to where you're straight up and down to the ground. It connects onto a track below and then it releases and then you go. Zero percent chance. First weekend it was open. People got stuck straight up and down. Oh my God.
Speaker 3Can you imagine being in the back row?
Speaker 1No Pass, hard pass.
Speaker 3I was on something called the Griffin one time.
Speaker 1You were on Griffin.
Speaker 3Williamsburg, virginia, at Busch Garden called the Griffin, and that's the first one I've ever been on that drops you straight over the front and you're hanging your feet are hanging on it.
Speaker 1Why would you do that?
Speaker 3And it's kind of back under itself. It's crazy. You're not going straight down, you're coming even back further, how is that physically impossible or possible? Tracks are spread away. I mean, it's pretty simple you go up like this and you go up like this and you come over here and it goes back down and then you come back under.
Speaker 2But are they straight G's, straight old school G's.
Speaker 1It's a no for me. No.
Speaker 2That's a 0% chance.
Speaker 1Well, and you know, when Janie and I were in California, we debated on going to Disneyland it's awesome and then we were like we can only go for like four hours, we're not going to ride a ride. So we went to Malibu instead and went on the beach Malibu- Drove up some cliffs Malibu.
Speaker 2So, what was your favorite thing out there?
Speaker 3Malibu was pretty awesome. Yeah, how many houses did you see slide into the ocean?
Speaker 1Not many, because they were all burned up. I was going to say how many fires did you see All of them? I mean there were still tons of damage. And all along the coastline you saw piers where buildings were, but nothing there. The saddest thing is there was a house that burned up. You know how when they burn up then they get rusty and all this stuff. There was a Porsche sitting there. I mean it had just been burned up, it was just a rust pile.
Speaker 3And that guy's already collected three times the value on it.
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Speaker 1Well, they were selling the lots for millions and millions of dollars. And we ate breakfast at a place in malibu and there happened to be a real estate shop beside of it and they had pictures in the window of places you could rent and buy and things like that, and I mean the average price was tens of millions of dollars. The most expensive one we saw was 75 million dollars, and then there were places you could rent and it was like 70,000 a month besides chris, who could afford that?
Speaker 1I agree. I mean it was like it was like, yeah, this is the deal, come rent it at 70,000 a month. I was like, yeah, sign me up I'll take well, first of all who's renting a place for a month?
Speaker 1I mean, I know there's snowbirds that go to florida and things like that, but look, if you're on the coast in California it's cold, yeah, but who rents in Malibu? I don't know. It's pretty nice. That was one of my favorite things that we did. Janie and I went there, climbed up one of the cliffs. That goes, the water just crashes into the cliff. We saw and heard sea lions that were out in the wild and things like that sea lions that were out in the wild and things like that. It was pretty neat.
Speaker 3That's some of the best, the coolest diving I've ever done. I've done a lot of cool stuff around the world, but diving in the Pacific.
Speaker 1I've done it around the world.
Speaker 3Oh, my God.
Speaker 1I've dove in all four of the ocean.
Speaker 3Diving off of an oil rig in the Pacific Ocean with all the sea lions Off your oil rig Nice.
Speaker 2No, it's stepdaddies.
Speaker 3Anyhow, that was pretty cool out there, but here's what you don't realize. Talk about the water. That water is cold. Yeah, that water is always cold.
Speaker 1Well, it was one of these things. Janie and I said we're at the Pacific Ocean. We've never been at the Pacific Ocean before. We've got to get at least feet in it. Yes, torture, oh, it's cold. I mean, it's not, it's not like, it's not like.
Speaker 2Oh, that's refreshing it's like it's dude, this is cold. Yeah, I did the same thing when I was out there, got to put your feet in, oh my goodness, and I'm like it's cold, there's no getting in this and there were some fools in the water and I'm like you. People are idiots, yeah yeah, uh, it's cold yeah but they'll be celebrating the fourth of july there. Yeah, you know where else that they're going to be celebrating the 4th of July.
Speaker 1I hear there's a big fireworks show at Lima. If you could just go. I mean, we've been asked to come past the 4th of July.
Speaker 3Have you spoken to my attorney lately?
Speaker 1I am your attorney.
Speaker 3Yes, I have. You're going to help this problem.
Speaker 1Well, I mean, they said, you could zoom in.
Speaker 3Oh no, that's different.
Speaker 2One of our, one of our fans in new South Wales, australia, uh, reached out and asked what the problem is and I was like we've already discussed it on a different episode. It's been over and over.