Three Friends Battle Oddball Trivia And Fix College Football

Missed us over the holidays? We’re back at the table and starting with a simple ask: help us grow by sharing the show with five friends. From there, we plunge into a chaotic trivia sprint—beaver mayors, molasses floods, and ketchup-as-medicine—that warms up the mics before we tackle what’s really on our minds: how to make college football sane again.

We break down why a disciplined, veteran roster can dismantle brands built on hype, and why the first rounds of the expanded playoff belong on campus. Home fields change everything: tempo, substitutions, coaching decisions, and the energy that TV money can’t fake. Then we go straight at the messy middle—NIL, opt-outs, and the transfer portal—offering solutions that value both players and programs. Move portal windows after the season ends. Tie high school NIL deals to two-year commitments so there’s real development and return on investment. Incentivize postseason participation with transparent contracts. Wrap it all in a calendar that delivers a January finish without coaches and athletes juggling teams.

It’s equal parts fandom and practicality: we love the sport too much to watch it drift. Recruiting rankings matter less than age, cohesion, and repetition. The best teams are older, deeper, and built on reps that a carousel of coordinators can’t provide. We also share plans for the year ahead—listener shoutouts, a shift toward video, and more ways to bring you into the room.

If you care about better football, smarter incentives, and real playoff stakes, this one will hit home. Share the episode, leave a review, and tell us your fix for the NIL-portal-postseason mess. And yes—campus playoff games: for or against?

Transcript

Welcome Back And Listener Plea

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Three guys around the table. And by three guys, we're talking about three friends: a lawyer, an engineer, and a school superintendent.

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And just like our personalities, our opinions vary, and we certainly don't always agree. Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around.

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Well, we are back. We've been off for a couple of weeks. Holidays are always an interesting time with travel and everything else. So Chris, Greg, let's go. Let's go. Good to see you back.

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Happy New Year to everybody. In my true Larry David, I think it's too late to be saying happy new year. It's January the 11th. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Definitely too late. So in the in the in the thing of Larry David, is it almost festivist? When is festivus? December 23rd. Oh, we missed it. Yeah, you missed that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll still air my grievances whenever I want. Well, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 0:57

Yeah. Well, so I want to start the podcast by saying uh to all of our listeners out there, uh, this is our uh new year plea for me uh to to all of you to spread the word about this podcast. Go and tell five of your friends and have them tell five of their friends. We uh we want to increase our listenership. We've got some really devoted, loyal listeners, but we don't advertise this, we don't sell uh sell out to advertising and commercials. Uh so we we would love to have you share it with as many people, put it on social media, share about this podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

And we get a lot of emails from people wanting to be on the podcast, people that you would never expect. Yeah, really all across the United States.

NFL Playoffs Banter And College vs Pro

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It it is crazy how many agents reach out to us to get their clients on our podcast, and uh it's very flattering, but we just keep it with us. Uh we we keep it just because this is we're not sellouts, dude. No, that's right, no, and uh so please spread the word and uh let's let's make this year our our biggest year ever in terms of listenership. Why is Greg just over here like climbing the wall? I think the biggest reason is his San Francisco 49ers have just taken a late lead over the Philadelphia Eagles in this playoff game. Uh, obviously, we are uh we're recording this on a Sunday night, and uh NFL play misses that doesn't matter, they're up four, so they gotta have a touchdown anyway.

SPEAKER_05 2:25

That's true. Yep, yep.

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Still though in the pros. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I look, we have, I think we all agree in this room. For us, college football is king, right?

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100%.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

But I think there are so many people that will say the NFL is king. For me, it's still college football. For me as well. Um, but but I'll tell you what, in terms of the NFL playoffs this year, these first few games have been great. Uh, all of them, right down to the wire.

SPEAKER_05 2:54

So uh the the game I said, Chicago and Green Bay. Uh that's a game I would never normally watch. Yeah, I watched I watched that all the way to the end.

Producer’s 10-Question Trivia Challenge

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Yeah, it was awesome. Insane all the way to the end. Uh, shout out to Seth Rollins, the the biggest Chicago Bears on the planet. So uh uh yeah, so we've got uh we're gonna do a little potpourri today, but uh producer uh Rick Mellon uh has given us a uh a little task, and that task is he is uh he shared with us a list of 10 questions, and these are random, I don't know whether I guess trivia questions. Um probably lots of sweet potato questions and uh and and soup. I I think I like soup.

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We're not allowed to use our phones on this trip.

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We're not allowed to use our phones.

SPEAKER_05 3:44

Why do you have your phone in your hand?

SPEAKER_03 3:45

Because I have to read the questions on covering all of it. And Rick wanted me to say that he was able to get two of these 10 questions correct. So our job is to get more than two, all right? What do these questions deal with? I have no idea something.

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Yeah, I gotta get the glasses out here.

SPEAKER_05 4:04

I just want you guys to know that even though it's why do your spectacles look like the ones off of that movie uh National Treasure where it's like all those different lasers you gotta look through to see?

SPEAKER_03 4:15

As long as they're not Larry Bud Melman glasses, I think we're in the. Okay. All right, question number one: which U.S. state once had a official state soil before it was discovered that the soil didn't actually exist within its borders. And these are multiple choice, by the way. So we've got West Virginia, Florida, Texas, and Maryland. And we're not gonna do hints on these, right? No. And we're we're gonna collectively answer these, okay? West Virginia, Florida, Texas, and Maryland.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

My first inclination would be that it was somebody that was deep into farming um because why else would you say there was a state soil or something like that?

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West Virginia, Florida, Texas and Maryland.

SPEAKER_01 5:06

So I I originally before you even finished the question, I was thinking Texas. But it's just because of I don't know, it's a lot of ranching down there, but it's mainly cattle and nothing, nothing really grass.

SPEAKER_05 5:17

West Virginia has a funky border too, and there's West Virginia was my first pick too, because they're you know, that where they were part of Virginia, it might be and they have that top up there by Pennsylvania that's so funky looking.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

It might be, you know, they may have picked out something there before that was right outside the border. It could be because we go into that, you know, you think about the John Denver song. You know, almost I I don't think about the John Denver song. I really don't need to. Who's John Denver? He says Well, he talks about the uh Blue Ridge Mountains.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

Aren't those in North Carolina?

SPEAKER_01 5:50

They run from Virginia to North Carolina uh to North Carolina, but they're he says West Virginia, doesn't say Virginia. They're in West Virginia. Oh Greg, I like kind of like what you're saying. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

That's not we're going West Virginia and we'll see how it is. Not quite is the answer. West Virginia designated Monongahila as its state soil in 1997, and it is a real soil series found in the state.

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The answer is Kentucky state soil dirt, Maryland.

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In 2010, Maryland realized its state soil, sassafras, was not actually found in the state.

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I thought sassafras was a uh a root. We're oh for one.

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Is that is that like a sassaparilla?

SPEAKER_03 6:34

That's a good one. That's a good one. In 1987, a town in Oregon elected a non-human as its mayor. What kind of animal called the office? Goat, dog, beaver, cat. Dog. I'm going, it's gotta be a dog, right? I'm gonna go cat, but you it's majority rule here, so let's go dog. Not quite. Several towns in the US, blah, blah, blah. It's a beaver.

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We should have known that because of the of the Oregon State mascot.

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In a protest vote against the Rajneshi cult, residents of Antelope, Oregon famously wrote in Bill the Beaver for mayor. I'm so sorry. I don't follow Colts. We're 0 for two. Bill's the man. Question three. Which of these, oh, you better get this, Greg. It's Chicago question. Which of these foods was once banned in the city of Chicago because it was considered unpatriotic during World War I? Hamburgers, sauerkraut, hot dogs, or pretzels? I we gotta, it's gotta be sauerkraut. It has to be kraut, it's the German one. I would think so. It's either that or pretzels, because both could be. The pretzels aren't necessarily German, are they? No, no. I it's gotta be sauerkraut. Let's go sauerkraut. No!

SPEAKER_04 7:46

Is it pretzels? Oh for three. It's pretzels. Stupid.

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Pretzels were temporarily banned in some areas and saloons because they were associated with German beer cool.

SPEAKER_05 7:57

Nobody eats sauerkraut pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Mellon's two answers is looking pretty good right now. We're 0 for 3.

SPEAKER_05 8:04

Did he tell you which questions he got right?

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No.

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He'd tell you where he found this thing. No. I take it back. Yeah. All right. Whatever it is, I don't want this website ever again.

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Question number four. What unusual item was used as a form of currency in the early history of the American colonies, particularly in Virginia? So dried fish, tobacco, seashells, or beaver pelts? Are we talking about the oldest profession? Right. That's what I was getting ready to say. I was gonna say woman, but that's not one of the choices. We swap them, womp them. In the early history of the American colonies, particularly in Virginia, dried fish, tobacco, seashells, or beaver pelts? So I read the question again. I don't know what unusual item was used as a form of currency in the early history of the American colonies, particularly in Virginia. I don't see why anybody cares about shells. No, they're a dynamic does.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Tobacco, you get it, because at least you get something out of it. I could also see it being um beaver belts. What's the other one? Dried fish.

SPEAKER_05 9:07

Was there a lot of beaver in?

SPEAKER_01 9:09

I I don't know in Virginia. No, that I've seen I've seen them in western Kentucky, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Let's each of us just say what we think it is, and then we'll come to a majority. Dried fish. Tobacco. I gotta go with Greg and say dried fish, though. Tobacco is is is would be my second choice. Gosh damn it's uh tobacco.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

I got one right.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

Chris got one. Yeah, Chris got that one. Tobacco. For many years, tobacco was legally used as currency in Virginia to pay taxes, etc. All right. Yeah, yeah. Chris is the man. We're oh for four. Uh we're doing this. We got a lot of which U.S. president was once arrested while in office for speeding on a horse? Was it Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant, or Andrew Jackson?

SPEAKER_01 10:08

You would think Teddy Roosevelt because of the Rough Riders and all that, but I'm not too sure that's the case. I would almost go Andrew Jackson. I'd almost go Andrew Jackson.

SPEAKER_03 10:15

I would go either Jackson or Roosevelt, right? I mean, now Grant got drunk a lot.

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Right.

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So he he may have been so we're agreeing it's not Abraham Lincoln.

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It can be Abraham Lincoln.

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It'll 100% guaranteed. All right, so which are we going with? Jackson, Roosevelt.

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Roosevelt's too long.

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I mean, that makes too much sense. I would think Jackson.

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Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Well, hang on, hang on. Why would they have speed limits when Jackson was in?

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Why would they have speed limits on a horse, period? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Well, I can see it if it was in DC. You mean you have to have cars to have speed limits? They're not going to put a speed limit on it for a horse. We'll get blazing saddles, so they have speed limits on the space. It just said they're speeding on a horse. It doesn't say they're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

Okay. We are incorrect. They're shocking. Ulysses S. Grant. Grant was caught speeding on his horse-drawn carriage in Washington, D.C. and was actually taken to the police station and fined. Ridiculous. Oh my. Okay, number six. Great. In 1919, a massive wave of what substance flooded the streets of Boston, killing 21 and injuring 150. And I know this one. I know this one. Sewage beer. Nom nom no tea. I'll give you the choices and then I'll tell you what I know this one. Oil, molasses, beer, or seawater. Seawater. Beer. 100% it's molasses. I know this from history.

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All right. We got you. I got you.

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Boom. Let's go. We got one. The great molasses flood occurred when a giant tank burst, sending a 25-foot wave of sticky syrup through the north end at 35 miles per hour. Oh my gosh. So we've got one.

SPEAKER_05 11:58

That's like a typhoon of thick molasses.

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Which number seven, which state has a law that makes it illegal to mispronounce its name while within its borders.

SPEAKER_05 12:08

That sounds like something that Ohio would have.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Illinois, Nevada, Oregon, or Arkansas. I would almost say Arkansas. I would say Nevada. You know, they go Nevada and Nevada. I always say Nevada. I don't know. What do you think, Greg? Illinois, Nevada, Oregon, or Arkansas?

SPEAKER_05 12:32

Illinois is the one I was thinking. Illinois.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

It's the well, let's see. I don't know.

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Illinois, Nevada, Arkansas, what was the other one?

SPEAKER_03 12:43

Illinois, Nevada, Oregon, or Arkansas. You missed pronounce Arkansas.

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Oregon.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Yeah, you can't. Oregon. I was thinking Arkansas because Arkansas. Okay, Greg.

SPEAKER_05 12:58

What was yours?

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Nevada? I think Nevada, but it might be Arkansas. Or it could be Illinois. He's already got one right that we got wrong. So I'll go with Arkansas. Arkansas will go with, and let's see.

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It's correct. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

Yeah, we got two.

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All right. Cause I thought Nevada would be, or Nevada, how I say it would have become a state so late.

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We're tied with producer Mellon. With how many questions to go? Three more. Let's go. Number eight. During the Cold War, the United States government seriously considered a plan, Project A119, to do what to the moon? A. Carve a face into it. B, nuke it. C. Build a giant mirror. D paint it red.

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Are you kidding me? How much paint would that take? I I think it would be nuke it, right? Read them again. I think nuke, but read them again.

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Carve a face into it. Nuke it. Build a giant mirror or paint it red. It's gotta be nuke it. You know what I think stupid?

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All of those answers. I think the answer is carve a face in it. Why I don't know.

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I think it's nuke it. It's gotta be nuke it. We're going with nuke it. I'm with you. Boom. We got it. Let's go. We've beat the producer. The Air Force planned to detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon to show off American military might to the Soviet Union. That'd have been great. To make a big mushroom cloud, I guess. All right. Number nine, the world's smallest park, Mills End Park, is located in Portland, Oregon, or Oregon. What is its approximate size? One acre, two feet across, the size of a parking spot, or a hundred square feet.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

So it's not one acre. I can't imagine if it's really if it's the smallest in the United States. It'll have to be something obnoxious like two feet.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Yeah, I think so too. One acre, two feet, size of a park.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

If you say eight by ten.

SPEAKER_05 14:53

Yeah, I mean, if you say eight by ten, that's eighty square feet. Let's go two feet. Yeah. Okay.

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Boom! Let's go. Mills End Park is a tiny circle, only two feet in diameter. Originally intended to be a light pole hole. Yeah, how stupid that is. All right. Question number 10. Hey. Turnover on downs. Oh, this thing's over. Let's go. Number 10. This is a chance to get to 50%, by the way. In the 1830s, what common condiment was sold as a medicine to treat diarrhea and indigestion? In the 1830s, what common condiment was sold as a medicine to treat treat diarrhea and indigestion? Ketchup, mustard, vinegar, or mayonnaise.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

Mayase was a joke.

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Ketchup. I think ketchup. Ketchup, 100%. All right, let's do it. Ketchup. All right, we'll try it. Let's go! 15%, baby. Dr. John Cook Bennett marketed tomato ketchup as a medicinal cure-all in the 1830s before it became a popular food topic. Ketchup. All right. So that uh producer Mellon, thank you. Yeah, that was awesome, but we just needed to get on a roll.

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Yeah.

Potpourri Pivot And Voice Woes

SPEAKER_03 16:03

I mean, we just needed warmed up. It was a quiz that was on Gemini, uh, it was called Gemini. So uh thank you, uh Rick, for that was a nice little warm-up. And now we can move on to other potpourri topics.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

You know what really grinds my gears.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

What's that? The fact that my voice is still not back. I mean, you you're the one of us that has a radio voice, and uh So they said you used to could.

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I used to could.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

I my moneymaker's shutting down on my as it's terrible. As my wife said out there, probably time to go to the ENT. See what's going on down there.

College Football Playoffs And Coaching

SPEAKER_05 16:40

I think, or you need to change to become a debt collector. That's true. That's right. All right, so I think we got a couple things. Let's do a little college football real quick. God do a little college football. So we're at the national championship. Yep. Let's talk about what's happened. So we got Indiana and and the U. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

I think. I think what you've seen, I think what you saw with Indiana and Oregon's gonna happen again.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

The line is seven and a half. That's a pretty big line for a national championship game.

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Give me those.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Yeah. But uh right now, take the points.

SPEAKER_05 17:15

I would absolutely have you seen, and I think I sent it to both of you guys, what the combined score of their games against Ohio State, Alabama, and like 1037.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

I had never I hadn't watched them play until the playoffs. Yep. I watched a little bit of the of the Big Ten championship game. Yep. They are a complete and extraordinarily disciplined football team. Well coached, every face. Their coach, is he the rock star of college football right now?

SPEAKER_03 17:48

I think he can name his price and and name his job. And then he could say, pay me my money in cash.

SPEAKER_05 17:56

And you know what?

SPEAKER_03 17:56

All you gotta do is Google him. Look, Google it. Google me. Uh it makes me says it makes me feel that much better about the last two times that Ohio State has played Indiana. Last year, Ohio State beat the beat the pants out of them. Like I think it was 38 to 45.

SPEAKER_05 18:13

Yeah, it's a beat down.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

This year, they lost to Indiana 13 to 10. They're the only team that held Indiana within a reasonable I and Ohio State missed a 27-yard field goal, would have tied it. So it makes me feel a little bit better about the fact that the two teams that Ohio State lost to are playing each other in the national championship. Uh so that's a that that takes the that takes the edge off of when you when you have a a loss that you weren't expecting. And I think that I don't think there's an Ohio State fan alive that was expecting to lose to Miami. Um, but hey.

SPEAKER_05 18:52

I didn't expect Ohio State to lose that game, but they lost that game on the lines. Both of them.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

They mean beaten up and and manhandled.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Yeah, I mean, Miami's offensive and decent defensive lines dominated the game.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

And that's the only chance I think that they have against Indiana is if they can somehow do the same thing to Mendoza. Yeah, I agree, but they did not do that to Nope. To Dante Moore. Or I'm sorry, to um uh I'm sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:20

Yeah, they did they did not do that against Old Miss. Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's what I They were not as dominant as they were in the Ohio State game against Ole Miss. Exactly. They were not. Ole Miss, um, wow. I would have liked to have seen them win. They I just to stick it to Lane Kiffin. Yeah, Lane Kiffin's a coach you love him if he's yours and you hate him otherwise. Yep. And right now everybody hates him.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

So you know this is not a time to gloat about the Big Ten. However, they've dominated the last three seasons.

SPEAKER_05 19:55

They have, and and I mean I mean, you've got a seven and a half point favorite that's the national championship game. Yeah. I don't think any of the three of us thinks they're going to lose.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Yep. Do any of us suspect any ACC team would make it?

SPEAKER_05 20:08

No. No.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

A team that we argue.

SPEAKER_05 20:11

It was a it was a legitimate argument. Didn't deserve to be in the world.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Yeah. And Indiana did the one thing that no other team could. They're the only team that came off of a buy in advance.

SPEAKER_05 20:24

In two years. So in two years. Yep. That by team is now one and seven.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Tells you something about coaching right there.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Yeah. But so we all agree we think Indiana's going to win. Yes. Now can we all agree on this? And I think we do. Two things. First that round that is the buy round for the top four seeds. That needs to be played on campus. Yep. It does not need to be played in neutral bullsack games, in my opinion. Yep. And the second thing I think we can all agree on is the calendar has to change. Has to. You can't have people dropping out of games to enter the transfer portal during the run for the national title. That's crazy. You can't have coaches splitting their time between trying to be a coach of a new team and being an offensive coordinator of a team in the previous game. Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

And you've had it with a bunch of teams. And you had Oregon playing a third string running back. Right. The top two guys they entered the portal.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

So what's happening is with the schedule the way it is, set up as runs as long as it does you got you've all you've got the people that decided what started about 10 years ago. I'm going to set out. I don't want to hurt my draft stock. Yep. Now you're getting into the oh I'm going to enter the portal but I'm still going to play.

SPEAKER_05 21:50

And now you've got kids who enter the portal and say they're not going to play.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Then they're gone. And then you got coaches that say I'm going to leave and go to another team. I'm not going to coach you. I mean it's and then when's the championship game a week from tomorrow. Yep. You're going to be the third week of January.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

It it needs to be done basically now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

And the portal didn't open until afterwards.

NIL, Transfer Portal, And Calendar Fixes

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Correct. Dan Lanning did a terrible job in the playoffs again this year in the in the last game. Yep. Same way he did last year. He got smoked by Ohio State got smoked by Indiana. But Dan Lanning has the answer to all that his calendar is correct. It's perfect. I mean it's the way it should be I I certainly hope that the powers that be will listen to sanity. I understand the almighty dollar and and getting all these games the TV and the revenue and all that it's it's it's bad for kids it's bad for the programs it's bad for college football. College football is not what it was three years ago. Yeah I agree. It just isn't and look get off my lawn and all that. I was going to say that but I really enjoyed I used to enjoy the bowl games um all the bowl games except the college football playoffs stink. Yeah the only one that that is I is is a is a little bit different that I'll push back a little bit on is the Pop Tart Bowl because it's the greatest marketing in the history of marketing pretty good marketing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

But uh but yeah that it's it's worthless because you know no one wants you know kids aren't playing in them well think about it you watched all these games on New Year's Eve, New Year's Day and then the Monday the next Monday after New Year's was when your championship was and it was wrapped up by then.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

So instead of uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:34

Do you have to put it in the NIL contracts that they have to play in it?

SPEAKER_03 23:37

I think you do. And I'm going to go a step further. I think what you got to do because what's happening now is everyone it gets all amped up about who has the number one recruiting class. Well it doesn't matter because after a year if the kid doesn't play they're getting in the portal and they're leaving. So we're paying you know we not we know they're being paid six seven figures out of high school to sign with the school six seven you know six six you know what you know what I can tell you?

SPEAKER_05 24:05

Yeah. Look at Indiana's team. Recruiting rankings make no difference. Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Indiana's team the majority of their starters are six year seniors. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:13

Yeah they but I mean think about in basketball.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Yeah the teams that win in basketball are all older teams now. Yeah well and and so they get those kids that are more experienced and you got 23 24 year olds going up against 18 19 year olds it's different you know um but I think they need to put into the contracts when you sign a kid right out of high school that they have to give your university two years.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

You know baseball makes you go three years or do they change that?

SPEAKER_05 24:41

No no no he's saying not to go to the pros. He's saying when you sign your NIO you've got to be there for at least you're committed to that university for two years.

SPEAKER_03 24:50

I agree. I agree and at least then the university gets some return on investment. Because right now okay I'll give you great example Fahim Delane is a safety uh kid that was a five star prospect signed with Ohio State last year the Ohio State uh signed with them played behind the probably the best defensive football player in the country in Caleb Downs this year. One going to see the field right but he got to learn behind the the very best safety that plays right and the kid enters the portal this week. Why well we're not guaranteed to be the starter next year as a as a second year player. You know the the kid is hurting his development the the school is not getting the return on the investment that they made on the kid. It's it's a broken system.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Here's the thing what I see and I'm going to equate this to business I hear this all the time is that when a lot of businesses took away their 401 took away their pension they lost that um loyalty they'd have from employees when they went to 401k because 401ks can be transferred easily there's no loyalty anymore. In this world of NIL there's no loyalty to a school they don't care what the name is on the front of the jersey. I don't care what anybody says nobody's paying for the name on the front they're paying for the money in their pocket. That's all they care about.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

But back in the day like two years ago kids would actually go to a place where they would hope to get developed that they can go to the pros. Here's I'll give you an example from the SEC there's this kid his name is I think his name is Damon Wilson. Thanks Gunther I appreciate you weighing up the ring general Damon Wilson I think is his name he's a defensive end um you know he's been in the portal now three times right um a kid that just signed with Ohio State today has been in the portal we've been in three different schools now Alabama Florida State and now Ohio State how can you reasonably expect development if you're jumping from a defensive coordinator to another one to a different you know secondary coach whatever it's just pay me my money I think it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

I think it's absolutely ridiculous because again there's no loyalty to any teams. They don't care these and I sound like the bah humbug get off my line guy but these kids don't care what college they go to they care how much money they can get they'll go to the highest bidder.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

But if you just put a few safeguards in place if you if you just put a few then every it could be a win-win for everyone. If you built into every contract work it's it's truly like an employment contract because that's what these kids are they're employees.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

100% they're not college students without getting into benefits and all that other crap.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Well you you're going to have to figure it out because right now they're getting paychecks to play a sport. Right. That sounds like employment to me. That's professional work.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Uh what's let's go back to the beginning though. What's N I L stand for? Name image and likeness. And wasn't it the way I originally heard it it was you can have camps you can put your name on jerseys and get that revenue from that. Anything based upon your name your image and your likeness.

SPEAKER_05 28:10

When did it get into paying players we get well I mean Kentucky's got a profit sharing system now. So I mean they they it's it's it literally is the Wild West. But it's a business pay you whatever. It's 100% a business business?

SPEAKER_03 28:26

Business so anything else on college football are we done with that for this moment.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Let's move on to New Year's stuff.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

Alright let's go New Year New Year what it is now new year old me.

New Year Resolutions And Show Plans

SPEAKER_01 28:42

That's the way it is I always like all these people talking about their New Year's resolutions and all that crap.

SPEAKER_05 28:47

I have the same New Year's resolution that I have every year. Yes? I will get I will get it right now.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

Okay. But go ahead Chris on your New Year's New Year New Me. New Year's ain't me. New Year old me.

SPEAKER_05 29:03

Good what's New Year's for you you said New Year. Nothing.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

I just really nothing man is that's good. You know you always strive to be a better person and be a better better version of yourself. I find in my life that that has a lot to do with the people around you. So you know as as long as I keep good people around me and I'll be a better person and well I'm going to I'm going to do a uh all right here's my New Year's resolution as it is every year.

SPEAKER_05 29:33

All right that's it in the infamous words of Ric Flair.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 29:39

Above all else I'm going to be more and I'm going to make you all it's you have no choice so that that is always my new year's resolution. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Yeah so so that was basically what we did the other night when we had the Garver then say for those who don't know the story there was um apparently I missed a fantastic meeting homeowners association baby the greatest thing since last bread just glad it went your way obviously certain people in this neighborhood don't listen to this podcast.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

Wouldn't care if they didn't make it would absolutely make no difference. That's true. That's true.

Wrestling Title Talk And NFL Picks

SPEAKER_03 30:34

All right so uh so yeah I I think uh new year I'm I'm one of my new year's resolutions is to do a shout out on every podcast to a listener and by the way you did one I'm down you did one the last time for two Larry Larry uh and and he has already called me up and said uh you know Chris loves me he he gave me a shout out Chris and Gray I would I would totally be down with Larry coming on to the podcast okay that this that's then then I'm going to rehash an old shout out with a new shout out Larry we're going to invite you onto the podcast we're going to give you a we'll do a call in so uh yeah and and the other new year's resolution I have for this year for this podcast is we're going to try to do this thing via video at some point.

SPEAKER_05 31:25

Very good everybody can see my blanket.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Yep. I have to wear clothes then here's the thing if we end up doing a video one we may even be able to do it from three different locations where you wouldn't have to be hole I will still have a blanket. Yes so if I was in my house it would be an electric one we're going to work on the uh that would be very cool. We're going to work on the technology and try to make that happen. All right that's my new year's what else we got I like that a lot. Yeah yeah what else we got being more obnoxious. What else we got? I'll tell you what we got I I got one for you. Can I share one?

SPEAKER_05 32:03

And new we do have a new heavyweight champion. Yes we do mecking saw that yes triple H finally got something right we uh we love that that's that's good and uh I I saw it because it was really early and I called Mark and I said now if you're going to watch I won't spoil it for you and he goes no spoil it now I want to know and I told him and everybody was ecstatic. Yeah where had he been for a while was he hurt or something uh he was filming the movie okay yeah but they finally made the right decision I 100% agree if they push my boy LA Knight then it'll be he'll be off to a good year. Yep. But if they push the yeet man no big won't they won't he's he's part of the tag team champions right now yeah but it don't leave him his tag team because they were trying to build up the tag team they're I think they're going to end up splitting those two guys up. Think about how Jamie L looked in that video I sent you guys.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Terrible Wow looked a hundred Bradshaw was that old but I mean he ancient big do big d um let's see what else we got going on uh NFL playoffs of course playoffs playoffs yeah uh so so my 49ers just won yep and then there's one more game tonight yeah and then there's one tomorrow correct Pittsburgh and Houston so who do you who do you have tonight?

Weather, School Days, And Closing Laughs

SPEAKER_05 33:20

Tonight we got the Chargers at the Patriots how can you give me the Pats. Yeah how can you pick against the Pats right now uh so they've Mike Vrabel is a fantastic coach my goodness I give me the pants yeah speaking of speaking of the pats how did uh North Carolina end up in football this year in college football not good not very good but oh but they got a great offensive coordinator now goes right along with their coach they Bobby Petrino is now the offensive coordinator North Carolina so all the girls in North Carolina are under a watch so Petrino saw Bill he's like you did that you got hurt I'm coming to North Carolina time to stay off his quote unquote motorcycle 100% uh that's that's good um wow yeah we don't even have any chocolate tonight to uh you know it's new year new us that's true and salted caramel's what it is oh that's where it's at yeah so do we get and this is another question that's very important do we get through this week with no snow or are we looking at any issues are I think I think I think you're in school this week.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

Okay second half of January not looking good Chris Bailey said it's looking pretty bad stay stay stay weather aware is what I can do well we we've got to because right now we've already used three NTI days and one traditional snow day so we ain't got a lot a lot to play with left so well if you just want to go to Waffle House just call us we'll go to Waffle House I'm I'm that's easy I'm down for some Waffle House. So anything else ladies and gentlemen I think that's good for today. I agree wore this thing out. Um producer Mellon we appreciate the uh the the 10 questions yeah the bear brothers were able to uh get five of ten correct and uh we feel good about failing yes well on top of that I just want to make one more statement yeah Mark's a liberal oh my god that's not true by the way you see I get the last order whatever