What Should America Be Proud Of At 250

Buffalo wings beat a New York slice at our table, and that’s only the first argument. We’re three friends with three different brains a lawyer, an engineer, and a school superintendent and we start with an East Coast food bracket that turns into a debate about authenticity, travel memories, and what we’d actually order when it’s our money on the line. Pizza, crab cakes, lobster rolls, cheesesteaks, bagels, and clam chowder all take their shots, but the winners say as much about us as they do about the food.

From there we zoom out to the 250th anniversary of the United States and ask the kind of question that gets people talking fast: what is the best thing America has provided the world? We dig into American innovation, the Constitution, and the idea of the US as global security, then swap Fourth of July fireworks stories from Washington, DC to Niagara Falls to watching fireworks from above on a flight. We even drop a wild George Washington story that feels like history class and campfire tale at the same time.

Then we tackle headline-level topics Supreme Court decisions, birthright citizenship, transgender athletes in sports, and why states’ rights keeps showing up in modern policy fights. We round it out with Cincinnati Reds frustration, where to sit at PNC Park, a WWE rant that spirals (as it should), plus a quick detour into lunch and Larry David’s new historical comedy. If you like smart friends arguing in good faith with jokes, side quests, and real opinions, hit play, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review with the take you disagreed with most.

Transcript

Table Talk And Cold Rooms

SPEAKER_01 0:03

Three guys around the table. By three guys, we're talking about three friends: a lawyer, an engineer, and a school superintendent.

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And just like our personalities, our opinions vary, and we certainly don't always agree. Whether we're discussing the best of or giving our tips and tricks of things in everyday life, you're sure to learn something if you stick around. That's those things dreams are made of.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

So whoever is tuning in right there, uh, that was a Hulk Hogan promo in reverse, which is one of the scariest things.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

So when that shows up on my uh on my Twitter X algorithm, what have I been looking at? Bad. You should see the rest. It's bad. Are we getting candy over there? Uh we have a lot of chocolate. Pass some chocolate over here.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Are you ready for some snacks? I've not had any dinner yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

I haven't either. I came straight from work. I have to admit, the temperature in here is not quite cold enough. It's I still have on my blanket. I swear it's probably at least 62 in here.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Oh whatever. So So we're close to the 250th anniversary.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Yes, we are. Or we really should be calling it 250. 250. 250. Right? Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

250.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

250. We are. And so we were gonna have to talk a little bit about that today. Who would have thought they were gonna make it 250? Seriously. I mean, really, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

But you know what's funny about that? We talk about 250.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

I can't hear you. You gotta talk in the microphone trying to get candy.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

When you get when you when we talk about 250, you go to like Italy or anywhere in Europe. Yeah, let's, you know, they've got uh chairs that are 250 years old there, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Well, they well, Italy uh as a country though, as a as a you know, come together country is much uh much younger than the United States. You realize that uh it didn't unify until uh what 1960? I I wasn't alive

East Coast Food Bracket Battles

SPEAKER_01 2:20

then, unlike some people. Who invited him to the party post-World War II? Italy unified. Anywho, um we we also we're gonna get into some two fitty stuff, but we also have this uh the food uh bracket challenge that we have.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

While we're doing that, we're gonna try Charles Chocolates Almond. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Charles Where's it from? I don't know. I can't read it. So you got glasses? I've got glasses. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Give it to the young person. He can read. I can't see it. Give it to the young this is uh San Juan Trinidad.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

In the Caribbean manufactured, distributed in Jamaica.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Yeah, I'm on. I must have picked that up in uh uh Caribbean somewhere. Uh we go. All right, so we do break. All right, we gotta we gotta do we gotta finish our bracket too. We started the food bracket last time. As we as we did discuss out of the south, there was a clear winner. Brisket is moving on to the final four. Yep. So now we have to. We're gonna do the East Coast.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

I already know my answer. All right, so number one is the New York slice versus number eight Maryland crab cakes. Oh, I'm crab cakes uh every day.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Greg.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

It's pizza, it's pizza and it's not uh close. It's pizza. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I I'm I'm not a crab cake guy. No, no. This one's been eaten.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

This one's been opened. I do like New York style pizza over any other pizza that we have.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Now, what p what's your favorite New York style pizza? Well, I haven't been blessed to try the different ones. That's true. Patchy Camales under the bridge in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Pretty good. My favorite John's on Bleaker. Not Ray's or original Rays or Ray's. Well, that Joe's or original Joe's. I don't know. I I again I John's on Bleaker was the my favorite one that we had.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

It's a coal-fired pizza place. I shall be going back to New York City. And uh at that time I will New York City get a rope. All right. All right, hit it. I agree with pizza. Main lobster roll. Yeah, main lobster roll versus buffalo wings. Oh, wings every day.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Do the buffalo wings have to have buffalo sauce in them? Nope, they're just buffalo wings. If I can just have plain chicken wings. Hey, you you it's your order and you're in buffalo. I would have plain chicken wings. I don't like vinegar. That's the reason why I knew Chris would pick buffalo wings.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I gotta go with buffalo wings too. Just I'm just not a lobster guy. Never have been.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

I love a lobster roll. I love it with both. You know what both is on a lobster roll?

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Yeah. Butter and mayonnaise. I don't know. Ketchup and mayonnaise. Oh. Because you can get lobster roll two different ways. You can get it Boston style or Maine style. Right. One is with butter and one is with mayonnaise.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

That's lobster with butter.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Maine is mayonnaise. And I yeah, I love lobster rolls. I love lobster. I love lobster rolls.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

I could eat wings every meal of every day. Okay, great. Wings moves on. Next, I agree. The number three seed, Philadelphia cheese steak versus the number six seed, Boston clam chowder. This is a no-brainer for me.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

If it's got steak in it, it wins for it.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Cheese steak. Who's your favorite? I've never had either of them.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

I've never been to Philadelphia. Pat's and Ginos and all that. Tony Luke's, Pat's, Gino's, there's all kinds of other ones. Pat's is my favorite up there.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

I've never been to Philadelphia, so I don't know. I've been to Philadelphia's airport, and that's it. I have been to Philadelphia, but I was in high school.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Well, when you're in the airport now, you get they had buggies.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

I mean, were you there when Paul Raven?

SPEAKER_01 6:11

When the Liberty Bell got busted up. See, if Chris had the bell, this would be a good time to ring it. All right. New York bagel. This says New York bagel and locks. I'm taking locks off. New York bagel versus New Haven clam pie. Never had that.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Uh oh. Give me a New York bagel all day, baby. It's got to be the bagels. I mean, that much is losing in the next round, either way.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

And by the way, New Haven, you get New Haven pizza versus New Haven clam news. New Haven pizza. Never had it. It's supposed to be real good. Yeah, but no clams on a pizza. According to your boy Dave Poitnoy. Yes. All right. The New York slice versus buffalo wings.

SPEAKER_02 6:52

Wings. Pizza.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Oh, I'm going to have to break this one. I'm going to have to go with wings. Yes. Gonna have to go with wings.

SPEAKER_02 7:00

All right. I could not support that decision. Well, I think I think that is an unpopular opinion.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

I love pizza, but I until I've had one of the real New York pizzas. When you when the New York pizza I've had is Sabarro's, that's where I gotta say. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

Classic. You know. I think I'm gonna go to the JC Pennies. Yeah. Yes. I'm gonna go to the food court, go to Sabarrow. Yeah, Sabaro.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

That's when you're getting the real New York experience.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

That's when I walk by the Chinese place and get my bourbon chicken. Yeah. You know, my samples. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

All right. So Philly cheesesteak versus New York bagel. Cheesesteak. Agreed. I'm gonna go with the bagel just to be contrary, but it is cheesesteak moving on. Cheesesteak versus buffalo wings.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Wings. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna be the contrary, and I'm gonna go with cheesesteak.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Wings. Wings moves on. Wings are good. No complaints with that. East Coast is done. We move on to the Midwest. All right.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Are we doing all these tonight then? Or are we gonna do the next one?

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

That was the plan last time.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

Yeah, okay. We've just done one. Yep. Yep. All right.

America At 250 And Innovation

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Let's talk about 250 a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

All right, let's go. 250. Lead us, Greg. What I saw this on uh a show on Sunday morning. What is your opinion of the best thing that America has provided the world um in its 250 years?

SPEAKER_06 8:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

That's a tough one.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Money. Because we pay for everybody else's things.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Uh innovation, if I had to just give a serious answer. Innovation.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

No, I want a serious answer.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Innovation. I I think that Americans have proven over the course of time that um they are innovative in in their thoughts and in um uh you know we've we've come up with inventions that other countries haven't even dreamed of.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

And that was that was part of it. So on on this thing, freedom and and self-governance was number one.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

But after that, it was like airplane, internet, yeah, phones, like yeah, yeah, and so from from my perspective as a former history teacher and all that stuff, uh, you know, we stole all of our ideas of of democracy and and the rule of law and governance of the people and all those things from from Voltaire and from Locke and Hobbes, and you know, it it it was an amalgamation of Calvin? Calvin. That's what I was gonna say. What about Calvin? Uh why did Calvin idea by these great thinkers? So to me, that I don't think we can claim that. I think that we put it all together in a great package with the Constitution, which is a fantastic document. Um, but to me it's the innovation. I think it's just uh the fact that there's a lot of really, really uh there there's big wealth in in other parts of the world, there's uh strong intelligence in other parts of the world. What what has always been lacking has been innovation, in my opinion. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Security. I think security, world security. That's ever since we kind of came in and kicked England to the curb, we've always taken up with a little guy. Um even when we did want to get into wars, we ended them, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Well, and and to to jump on that point just for a second, when we wanted to end World War II, what did we do? We created well well, we created the Manhattan Project in the early 1940s, where we went out and got the best scientists all around the world. I was gonna say we brought the one that was the key guy here, was actually Soviet. Three of them, two of them were German, and we brought them here and why? Because we had the the ability to innovate and create that they didn't have. Uh Hitler tried, like the Dickens, to uh get the middle school achieved that one, yeah, to to get a a bomb, and they couldn't do it. And so again, just the American ingenuity.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

You can go as far as and throw the Enigma machine out there too.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

But I think security, I think world security. I think you know, we are the the world police. Now, sometimes I think America we get into things we don't need to be in.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Do you think that's a good idea?

SPEAKER_00 11:56

No, but uh the problem is George Washington said not.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 11:59

We get involved with things we should have no business being in. And I brought that up last time, talking about the Middle East and all that. So I don't believe that's necessarily the greatest thing, but I think we are looked upon that way.

Best Fireworks Spots And Stories

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Where is the best place? Do y'all like the fireworks on the fourth of July? I am not a fan of fireworks in general.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I love sure I agree with that. I love lighting fireworks and making stuff burn. But the answer is by the time the fourth rolls around, I'm already so sick of fireworks because people have to light them every night before then. I'm not a big fan.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Where's the best place you've watched fireworks?

SPEAKER_00 12:37

Boy, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

I have two pretty good answers for this one.

SPEAKER_01 12:41

I got mine. Okay, go go, Greg. Watch yours.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Well, the first one was when I was at Georgetown College, finishing up my laundry group. Oh, Goggles. Yeah. So Janie and I had the opportunity to go to the National Mall to watch the fireworks in Washington, D.C. And that was that was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

You didn't cut the liner in the I did not cut the liner.

SPEAKER_02 13:03

And then the second one, I don't know if you either one of you ever done this, but we were flying to Texas on it's probably been 15 years ago now, on the 4th of July. And it's interesting to be above the fireworks. Wow. And you could see them at many different places going off at the same time. That was pretty neat. Yeah. And um and then one other one is Reagan was playing in a baseball tournament in Indiana. And they were doing fireworks. They had a game that started at midnight at that Grand Park, and there were fireworks going off in the background, and it was that was pretty neat too. But the national mall is hard to beat. Yeah, I I that would be cool.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

I was sitting in Canada on Canada Day.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

But that's not the 4th of July fireworks. I mean, it's this thing on. You said fireworks.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

Is this thing on? Did I say did I say you said fireworks sitting in Canada on Canada Day watching fireworks over top of Niagara Falls?

SPEAKER_02 14:05

What's this all about?

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Niagara Falls. The fireworks over Niagara Falls.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Were you with Justin Trudeau and Katie Perry when you were watching?

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Sarah Palin was close. That doesn't surprise me. But it was incredible. Over Niagara Falls. It would be neat. Incredible.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Um Clearwater Beach. I like that. Watched them last year on July 4th. Yeah, I like that. From from the beach, from the like the balcony of this of producer Mellon's condo, actually. Doctor, doctor, doctor. And uh yeah, seeing them, you know, that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Where where is Ava gonna watch fireworks from this year? Because it's a special day for her this year. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Yes, she is turning 21 on July 4th.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Everybody's partying on her birthday.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

She will be watching them in the Sin City, fabulous Las Vegas. That's oh my goodness. That's her birthday present. She wanted to go to Vegas. By herself? Uh with her boyfriend. Oh, I got you. Yeah. So they're headed out there. Pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

I take her rooms. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

I take her, well, four rooms. They uh you know, spreading out. That's a good point. You know, different hotels.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Yeah. I mean, it's not like you where you get a whole floor.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Yeah, I mean, you've got to have a place for Jeeves and Paul's and manfriended.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

He likes to set off fireworks. He likes to have people sit off his fireworks. I'm gonna go for that.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

I mean, that doesn't surprise any of us. Can we go back and talk about George Washington for a second? Because he's my favorite president.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Hang on, before we do that, can I talk about one fireworks experience? Of course. Who lit it for you? Do you remember? Jeeves? I think we I think you were there. We were doing summer baseball over here at Western Hills, and they played on the 4th of July, and we kept telling everybody. Yeah, I remember that all day all day. Stick around for the fireworks extravaganza. And we built this up and we started seven in the morning and built it up and built it up. I remember it. And just can't, all right. And here we're gonna know, we're gonna play this music and we're gonna have this fireworks extravaganza. I sent Michael out in your golf cart with one bottle rocket. And he got behind the scoreboard, and I said, Okay, ladies and gentlemen, if you'll turn your attention toward the scoreboard, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm playing, you know, Lee Greenwood, God bless the USA, as soon as it's over. He lights it and he goes, and it was like, and I was like, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming. I hope you enjoyed the fireworks. I do remember that. Uh those are goods.

George Washington And A Wild Tale

SPEAKER_01 16:39

So, George Washington, uh, because you mentioned him earlier. He warned us about, you know, and he also warned us about a two-party system. Yeah, you know. Um, so long story short, I just happened to hear a story about George Washington today that Ben Carson shared. You remember Ben Carson? Oh, yeah, Doctor Doctor. Doctor, doctor. Okay, listen, listen to this. I'm gonna play this. This is uh this is great. About George Washington.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

The Bloodpool president. Yeah. You know, George Washington was a courier for General Braddock, one of the English generals during the French and Indian War. All of the couriers were killed, and Washington had two horses shot from beneath him. And he had four bullet holes in his jacket, but no flesh wounds. He had bullet fragments in his hair, no flesh wounds. Many years later, he still hadn't become president yet, but he was back in the area, and one of the Indian chiefs who had been involved was elderly at that point, near death. He said to his braves, Take me to see this man. I must see him before I die. And when they brought him in the presence of Washington, he said, Sir, I'm an expert marksman. And I shot you 17 times. And my men shot you, and pretty soon I told them to stop wasting their bullets. And I just wanted to meet the man who was protected by the great presence above.

SPEAKER_01 17:54

Wow. Wow. How great is that? That's crazy. Isn't that wild? So, anyway. That's pretty. Yeah, I saw that story and I was like that's pretty yeah, that's uh shot him with arrows. That's that's a good uh that's a good two fitty. That's a few good. That's a good two fitty. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Well, y'all think about the the national uh the national uh fair thing up there.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

It's laughable great American state fair or whatever it is. I've not seen anything about it.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

That tens of people have showed up too.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

I understand it's not well attended.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

No.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

I think there's wheel up there.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

I'd have gone and been cool. Yeah. Tens of course. It would have been neat.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

If I was there. Corn dog. Everybody loves corndog.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

I'd rather go to Ogledog just saying that's true. You know, Fanny Farkel's Gatlin Bird. I'm Danny Farkle. Yep. What else are we going to talk about with 250?

SPEAKER_02 18:44

So one of my favorite shirts from Obvious Shirts, and y'all know I like obvious shirts, that's the hit Kingbo. They hit they've got one for that, they've had it for years that says the British blew a 13 colony leave. So that's pretty good. That's a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Uh so yeah, so it always reminds me of that on the 4th of July. Well, I I did, I shared with you all that the 250 shirt, which mana 250. I I want that shirt. That's that's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

So it's a big, it's a big one. I'm still disappointed though. We've again in 76, there's still stuff everywhere, and nothing for 250. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Yeah. I don't get it. Well, you know, hopefully, you know, I'll I'll still be around for 300, you know, because I'll be what 162 somewhere along those lines.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

You know, it's it's unique. Budweiser.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Budweiser is not unique.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

Makes a statement by putting Mulvaney on a can. But yet can't do anything for 250 for a year.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

I didn't know they put I did I didn't know he was on a can. Mulvaney. I don't know who Mulvaney is.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Or they used him for marketing.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

New York City's mayor.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

No, no, that's Muldani. Oh. Dylan Mulvaney is the guy that thinks he's a woman. That Kid Rock threw a fit about. Remember when they hired that woman in for marketing? I don't. No.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

I don't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

So yeah.

Supreme Court Rulings And Federalism

SPEAKER_01 20:14

So uh so there were a couple of big Supreme Court decisions today. Yep. Uh Greg, I know you wanted to talk about these.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Yeah. So uh two big ones come out today. They um the first one was uh the one that's probably well, I don't I don't think it's really controversial, but some people think it's controversial is well, they think both of them are, but birthright citizenship, which I absolutely disagree with.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

The decision I agree with the dis I disagree with the decision and the fact that you can come here illegally, have a kid, boop, you're legal.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

That's what constitution says. That's that's in the constitution.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

Okay, so I want to go back, I want to go back to that though. Yeah, and the constitution says, but I want to go back to the constitution. Sure. Am I mistaken that the forefathers wrote the constitution as an ever-changing document to be changed and updated as a change? It's been changed 27 times. Yeah, it has been changed. Okay. That's has it been amended? To the amendment process. It's been amended. Right, right. Uh-huh. Yeah. So the Supreme Court heard this. So how can amendments be made to the Constitution? The 14th affirmed by listen, how do you add an amendment to the Constitution? You've got there's you have to have two-thirds of the states that vote to ratify it. So why did this go to the Supreme Court to uphold that?

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Because it's interpreting a provision that's currently there.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Yeah. But if the thing is, if it's up, why don't they push it to the states and say vote on it? Because it's not an amendment.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

It's not an amendment. There's already an amendment there. They're just interpreting what the 14th Amendment says. There was a case that brought about uh a legal challenge of Trump that's Trump Trump did an executive order that said you basically have to have a to be a considered a U.S. citizen, you've got to have a U.S. citizen parent. Yeah. And that got challenged and got stopped instantly. And the 14th Amendment says all person in part says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state where they reside. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

I I still don't agree with it. I mean, I understand what they're saying, but when that was written, was what year? What year was that amendment made?

SPEAKER_01 22:29

It was right after the Civil War. It's one of the Civil War amendments.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

And we needed people, we need to, I completely disagree with it. There is tell me other countries that are in the world. You're off on your own island on the 1868. Tell me other countries that do this.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

I can go to England and Well, there's there's probably not, but all the Supreme Court did was they interpreted the Constitution as it is. What you're saying is you think that amendment should be revoked. Correct. That's a complete. That's a complete, and we've done that because we had prohibition. Exactly. And that con that amendment got revoked. There's a process for doing that. You can't do that through the court process. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Right. Okay. I understand what you're saying now. So I think the court got the decision correct. According to the Constitution, absolutely they did. Yeah. I don't I don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

That's that's a that's a different conversation. I uh do you think he should be 35 to be eligible to run for president? Do you think you have to be born in this country to be eligible to run for president?

SPEAKER_00 23:27

The constitution says that whether or not you agree with her or not, uh it's well it's not relevant, but that was my unpopular opinion. I think it's nonsense that you're gonna be born in the United States.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

Now, uh now uh Alito did a dissent that said he thought it was crazy that you could jump the fence or cross the river, get here, have a child, go straight back to your country, and your child's a citizen and has to be taken care of. Correct. Right?

SPEAKER_00 23:53

Yeah, which is absurd.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

I I I mean there's arguments to that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Did he announce his retirement by chance?

SPEAKER_02 23:59

No, he didn't? Okay, no. Um uh and the second one was um transgender sports.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

I think all of us agree on this one. They pushed that back.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

We should have left it to the states, right? Basically, which I think most decisions should be to the states.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

I I agree. I agree. That's a really important point. Think about what the 10th Amendment of the Constitution says. It if it's not in here, if we don't cover it, then the states figure it out. Absolutely. And when you get one group or one person or or whatever that's deciding for all 50 states, that's when you start having issues. Yeah, I I'm I'm a big states' rights guy, always have been. And um, if it's not delegated in the Constitution, then it is reserved to the states, period.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

So that decision was basically it's reserved to the states. It upheld a law that banned transgender in effect males from participating in female sports because it really never happens the other way, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:01

As you know, you're not gonna see a female born person trying to play in the male endway. It's it's right, it's the other way around.

SPEAKER_02 25:11

So uh I I think that's the correct decision. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Um I think that's a state's decision, and I think And that's not the and here's the thing anyone who the this is the part that gets really tiresome. Anytime that you say anything like this, you have to fear like you're going to be called out as being transphobic. Has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with uh we're who makes the decision. We're leaving this power to the states to decide. If if a state decides, you know what, we want to do this, and and the major vast majority of the people vote, hey, you know what? That's that's up to you as a state.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

So on your personal level, yes. What's your personal opinion of it?

SPEAKER_01 25:57

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 26:00

My personal opinion of it is is I think boys should participate in boy sports, a girl should participate in girls sports.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Yeah, yeah. I I I thought you were talking about the the ruling. No. Um, just about the issue of uh yeah, I I I mean there's a biological difference in strength, speed, etc.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

between girls and boys. I mean uh that's not sexist, that's not homophobic.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

This is one where I have to I have to have my my profession um you know it it helps it doesn't help. I mean it it it makes me think about things in a different way.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

So I have to think about the rights of all kids, not just the right of one child. If there is one child who is born a boy but identifies as a girl but wants to play in a girl's sport, then I have to then be concerned about the rights of the other girls, right? About you know, when they have to go into the dressing room and all those things. So uh so that's where you know I can have I can have a personal opinion and uh and I can also have a professional opinion. And in this case, they're complementary of each other. Uh I I agree with Greg. I I you know that's just that's just where I stand on it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Pretty simple with where I stand. You guys already know the answer to that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

Well, you you're an anti-constitutionalist.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Right.

unknown 27:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

You're an anti-dentite. You're right. Some some of the amendments. So I'd send it a little bit louder.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

I'm sent it a little bit louder.

Reds Frustration And Ownership Fixes

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Um let's talk about baseball for a second. Oh, let's see. I'm a member of the Whig party, by the way. I don't see it on your head.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Hey, I saw a great t-shirt for you. I didn't send it, but it was great. It says hair would only slow me down. That's pretty funny. That's true.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

That's a true statement. Let's talk about baseball for a second.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

I don't want to. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

I might so let's talk about our bit.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Who is this? Oh, you mean Groundhog Day? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

All right, so as we sit, the the your Reds, they used to be in first place in the central. They are now 39 and 44.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Pretty good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

They gotta play the.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Just wait until the all-star break.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

They're only 12 and a half games back right now.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

So you're saying there's a chance.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

There is a chance. My Cubs are now 47 and 38. And do we all like Kirk Herb Street or no? I like Kirk Kirb Street. I like Kirk Herbstreet. I think he does a good job. All right. Well, I thought you all would like him, so that's the reason why I ask. But he left Ohio. They ran him out of there. He just he sent out a tweet today. Yes, he did. I saw it. 20 hours ago. Mm-hmm. Some guy named Bryce Spaulding, I don't know who that is. But Bryce Spaulding said the Reds could clean house from top down, literally the entire front office, scouting, development, coaching staff, bat boys, you name it, gone, and I wouldn't miss a single person from that group. And he goes on and on. So I mean, this is a long, long text. It's like it's dire. 12-game win streak in 2023 is preventing an overall record of this core from looking a lot worse. It's super mid as is. 77 and 83 win purgatory, where you actually not worth a and I can't repeat the next room. Kirk Herbstreet responds to it. And he says, bro, after 13 straight years of this BS, all spelled out, you should now realize you're pissing in the winds. It will not change. The Reds baseball season is from mid-February to early to mid-May. That's it. The season was over weeks ago. I feel bad for you with all these tweets. Go watch some soccer. Get some preseason football magazines. Go on a summer trip. Anything but deal with this nonsense on a daily basis. It's over. Time to move on. Yep. What are your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Until the Castellinis are gone, nothing will ever change. Yep. Bob. Phil? Phil. That's it. Bruno. Bob and Phil Castellini, sell, please. No kidding. Sell.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

You know, uh, this is true, by the way. Uh Mark Cuban wants a baseball team. Mark Cuban would be awesome in Cincinnati. I mean it is the oldest team in Major League Baseball, for God's sakes. Yeah. Elon Musk could buy every professional sports franchise and still have lots of money left over. Hundreds of billions of dollars left over. Do you realize that? Seriously, I saw he's now officially a trillionaire. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. He could buy every professional sports franchise and still have hundreds of billions of dollars left over.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Do you know? I just realized the other day.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

And he'd be a great owner for the Reds. Are you kidding me? That would be awesome. Yeah, he would spend whatever. He would he would make the Los Angeles Dodgers look like paupers.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

I didn't realize.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

We talk about money and I have millions, yes, we know.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

And billions and billions. I didn't realize I had a and I wouldn't say a friend, I had a an acquaintance that was worth $1.5 billion, and I had no idea.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Is that your what are your servants?

SPEAKER_00 31:18

He's dead now, but so I had no idea. It came out in the paper the other day.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

I don't know why they would but he was a businessman, but well anyway, going back to the Reds, I think Herb Street is a little short-sighted, only saying 13 years since 36 years. Right, since 1990, exactly. So uh it's absolutely ridiculous. And I and I love Terry Francona, but it's not working. You he doesn't have the I mean you can't make chicken salad out of ham.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

You know what I think about this though?

SPEAKER_00 31:52

What pay me in cash so bad. So uh yeah, so you know what sucks? I'm the type fan. I would still go for playing at 705. I would have still gone tonight. Sure, I got no issue with that. I just love the Reds, and I love being there.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

So I've got a question for you guys.

Where To Sit At PNC Park

SPEAKER_02 32:15

You've been to PNC Park. Oh, yeah. I'm going to PNC Park at the end of this month. Or end of July. Yep. The question is where to sit at.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

I can tell you where we sat, and it was fantastic work. Just about I'm a first-base snob, remember.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

You're why did he need to tell us he was a snob?

SPEAKER_00 32:41

The water is wet. First base, PNC Park, and the way they tell you to get there is you go through the bowels of the park until you come out and you're like, I'm here on the field. It's unreal.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Well, that's where I want to see it, but everybody tells me the view's better of the city skyline from the third base set.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

Well, I've already weighed in on this for you. You know how I feel about it. Are you there to watch baseball or look at the city skyline? That's where I'm at.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Part of my group would be there to watch the city skyline.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

Well, and you're that means you're gonna sit on third base. If it was for you, you'd be on first base.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Um I think we need to I think I'm gonna just go to first base either way.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

I think I need to shift the the discussion to something else now. Yeah, hit it. Okay.

Wrestling Rants And Booking Complaints

SPEAKER_01 33:23

I'm just gonna play something for you, and then we're gonna comment on it. And you I think you know where I'm going with this.

SPEAKER_04 33:33

One word. Sammy!

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Oh, Dor. Sammy Zayn won? Sammy Zayn is the new heavyweight undisputed champion of the world. Undisputed. He won a triple threat match against Cody Rhodes, Gunther, and Sami Zayn. Look, he looks like a homeless Irishman. He's terrible. Who who I would fight today? Yep. Absolutely. Is he from Ireland? No, no, he's from uh Canada.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

I said that's what he looks like. He's from Quebec.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

He looked like he's Nordic. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

He's from Quebec.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

He does look homeless. So um, but but he wore the full uh because he has Saudi Arabia Arabian uh descent. He wore the full jihadist and all that. Uh the I don't know what you call it. Ajeb. And yeah, with the with the white, you know. So uh yeah, he wore that to the ring. It was in Saudi Arabia. In what? Wow. Uh I mean I was not watching it, but I was texting you. Yes, and I was watching it and just uh just getting so angry.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

You texted me and said and new, and my response was if it's that mother Yeah, terrible.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

And by the way, producer Mellon is the one that sent me that uh the four lettuce. He I I I don't know whether he's happy about this or not either. We can't call him, he's he's on a sailboat in Greece right now. So Doctor Doctor Oh don't hear it. Did he borrow your boat? Did you let the producer use your boat? As he stated on the last episode, there's two of them there.

SPEAKER_06 35:10

Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

I can't believe you let him borrow your boat. Well, it was a hardship.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

You know, so anyway, Sammy Zayn being the new champion is just ridiculous. I mean ridiculous. Do you know how ridiculous it really was? Okay, they you know this, yep. They had Raw. The Raw after a big a big live event, premium live event. Yep. Where was Sami Zayn? Nowhere. No interview, no promo, no snitch. Nothing. Oh, it's gonna be the shortest title reign of all. Well, it should already be over.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

I'd say it'll be over at Saturday night's main event. Supposedly, uh, he will be facing the winner of on SmackDown. They're going to have a number one contenders match. And uh yeah. He's still getting the push. Oh, of course. He's gonna get it's it's big again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

So uh I my boy LA Knight comes out, no push, huge pop, and they have him lose to fat Jay Jimmy's brother. Jay's brother Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01 36:12

Yeah, exactly. And uh I will say, by the way, that Obafemi versus Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

It'll be a good match. I'm excited about it. Look, as I told you, I'm excited about that match too. It'll be fine. Hell in a cell, Summerslam. But it's stupid. Okay? Yep. So the way they're doing it is awful. King of the Ring. You win King of the Ring at SummerSlam, you pick what champion you want to fight for the title. That's the way it works. Okay, yeah. Obafimi won King of the Ring. He gets to choose between Sami Zayn and and and Roman Reigns. He said, I'm gonna fight Brock Lester instead. Titles can wait. Okay, stupid.

SPEAKER_01 36:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

Who's writing for them right now?

SPEAKER_01 36:56

It's not us, apparently. We need to be. Yes. I'm just saying.

Lunch Wins Larry David Clips

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Y'all want to hear about my game-changing lunch today?

SPEAKER_01 37:03

Yes. How many letters were in it? Six letters. One word. Yams.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Tuna fish sandwich.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

Lexitonian salad. Good. No, no tomato. Extra bacon with uh fried buffalo chicken on it. That killed it.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

It was unbelievable. I I had a frozen one of those frozen burritos that you buy in the tent.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

I love those. I love those, yes.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

As you guys know, I never go out to lunch. Today I had to go out to lunch. I had a I had a lunch meeting. I had chicken morsala. Oh, you were like, I didn't have to go downstairs. Yeah, I had to go downstairs.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

I never go to lunch, and I had to go to a lunch meeting today. And it was at uh it was supposed to be at Drake's. And I'm sitting there with my guy and we're waiting. All of a sudden he goes, hey, I got a Texas, I got a booth. And I'm looking around, I'm going, it was weird. I spotted back, I said, and where are you? And he goes, Harry's. I'm like, oh. Next door. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

So how are you boys gonna handle not paying college tuition? Uh pretty nice. If you feel if you need to, I'm available. I got free. Pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

Yeah, it is it is pretty good. Oh, speaking of pretty good, uh, Larry David's new series. I've got to watch one, yes.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Okay, I saw that it was available. It's he's he's making fun of these historical events of the United States.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

So like is there like Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Is it on what channel? HBOX.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

Oh, good. He and he's like at the Declaration of Independence and all this kind of stuff. I saw some highlights of his typical watch. Oh, send it out.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

Yeah, I'm gonna have to search for that while we're uh while you're discussing it. I did watch the first episode. Um How good was it? I really enjoyed it. Carrie? Not so much. So that means we'll love it. I I think so.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Janie will not like it, but I'll love it. Let's see. Uh it's pretty fun. It I saw a highlight of it. It looks pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of unhappiness. Uh let's see here. I seem sure he should well. Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

This is good this is good podcasting. Let's see. Let's see. Yes, it's gonna be hot. Is it gonna rain again this weekend? Are you gonna try to race? Yes, and it's gonna rain.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

That's down to like 40% now. We threw a rod. It's gonna be a while. No, no, no, no, no. We gotta wait here. What do you got to wait on the plane? The right brothers right here until they fix the mechanical issue.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

I gotta sit in the middle with shitty snacks for five hours. Are you crazy? It's not a good experience. Oh my gosh. What a pleasure to be a part of such a historic occasion. You know what's really irritating about you? You are the world's worst butter china! Oh dare you! Nobody charge butter better than me!

SPEAKER_03 40:22

Can't wait to get back home to my Daisy. That's what's waiting for me.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

She's all right. I would take her to the movies if she paid. She paid. Oh, yeah. You got a net. I'm gonna use my hand. This trip is gonna be so great. So great. What's gonna be so great? It's a great burden to have to leave our families. We don't want to go. Alfred is the largest mill owner in western New York.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

We employ over 120 children.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

Are you four children working at the mill? I dislike children so much, it really doesn't bother me. What they do? Beggars can't be choosy. You know what? I'm a choosy beggar.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

No sharing desserts. Unsanitary. Sometimes I don't want a whole slice of pie. I just want a taste of pie.

SPEAKER_04 41:23

Get your own damn piece of pie, Franklin.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

That'll be good. Yeah, yeah. It's it's good. Uh I I enjoyed it very much. The the scene where they're, you know, it was for the writing the Declaration of Independence, and he went through his draft, and his draft was uh, you know, uh he wanted to put in there, people shouldn't be able to go outside and and take a big deep breath of air. Do you want to see that? And then he's like, men should not be able to fan themselves. Who who wants to see this?

SPEAKER_00 41:59

You know, maybe we should write our own decoration. He's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Yeah. Unpopular opinions. The neighbor across the street shouldn't be outside without a shirt on. So by the way, Buffalo Wings, brisket. Oh, yeah. Already in two of the final. Pretty good. So for the next one, that's way where we know we're starting. Where was Johnny Paycheck from? Hillsboro, well, actually, Greenfield, McLean, Hillsboro, Ohio, Washington Courthouse area.

SPEAKER_00 42:27

My new song of the week is the old violin, but a great song, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

If you want a really good one from Johnny Paycheck, in all honesty, listen to 15 beers. You will love it. I drank 15 beers, and that's a whole lot of brew for one night.