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Desire As Medicine Podcast
139 ~ Why You Need to "Digest Your Life" (Not Just Live It)
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You know that confusing moment when something was amazing and then, the next day, you’re cranky, reactive, or reaching for caffeine, sugar, wine, or your phone like it’s oxygen? We’re naming that pattern for what it often is: undigested life. When experiences stack up faster than our bodies can integrate them, the mind starts inventing “problems” just to create a crash, a release, a valley. We don’t have to keep learning that lesson the hard way.
We walk through the practice Brenda and I use every time we meet: a simple debrief that helps us metabolize what happened and turn high input into real nourishment. We talk about why modern speed sabotages nervous system regulation, how the “mental version of bad gut health” can look like overthinking, overdoing, disconnection from intuition, and picking fights, and why being “full” is often a sign of expansion, not failure.
Then we get practical. We share ways to build integration and self care into real life: scheduling a digestion day, movement and yoga, walking in nature, hydration and food choices, journaling and gratitude, prayer, tears, and honest connection without crossing into emotional dumping. We also zoom out to the long game and how major transitions like divorce, career shifts, and parenting changes digest in layers until wisdom is what remains.
Bullets for ~ In this episode:
• what we mean by a debrief and why we do it
• digestion as integration of experience, not just food
• why a fast culture makes it harder to process life
• the “mental health version” of gut health, including overthinking and disconnection from intuition
• signs you are too full, including irritability, reactivity, overeating, and craving numbing
• how peak experiences create expansion that needs recovery time
• practical tools: calendar downtime, movement, yoga, walks, journaling, gratitude, prayer, crying, connection, sex, rest
• the line between healthy sharing and emotional dumping
• how big life transitions digest over years into wisdom
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Welcome And Core Belief
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Desire is Medicine. We are two very different women living a life led by desire, inviting you into our world.
SPEAKER_00I'm Brenda. I'm a devoted practitioner to being my fully expressed true self in my daily life, motherhood, relationships, and my business. Desire has taken me on quite a ride, and every day I practice listening to and following the voice within. I'm a middle school teacher, turned coach and guide of the feminine.
SPEAKER_01And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the truest and hopefully the highest version of me. I don't have children, I've never been married, I've spent equal parts of my life in corporate as in some down and low shady spaces. I was the epitome of Tired and Wired, and my path led me to explore desire. I'm a coach, guide, energy worker, and a forever student.
SPEAKER_00Even after decades of inner work, we are humble beginners, on the mat, still exploring, always curious. We believe that listening to and following the nudge of desire is a deep spiritual practice that helps us grow.
SPEAKER_01On the Desire as Medicine podcast, we talk to each other, we interview people we know and love about the practice of desire, bringing in a very important piece that is often overlooked. Being responsible for our desire. Welcome back, family, friends, listeners, to another episode of the Desire as Medicine podcast. Today, Brenda and Brenda's here, of course. Fantastic. I love having her here. She's the best guest ever because she's a co-host. So she's always a good guest. Actually, I'm gonna go to the side here and say Brenda's actually a great guest, even in person. She's just so fun to be with. I love hanging with her. She's Brenda.
SPEAKER_00Okay, now I'm blushing over here. Thank you. It's true. Carry on.
The Debrief As A Practice
Digestion Beyond Food
SPEAKER_01I love how she said thank you. It's true. Carry on. Today is an intimate share. I don't want to say it's super vulnerable, but it's definitely a sort of behind the scenes. You can what we're gonna share with you today, we do every time we meet. I don't think we do it in person. I don't want to say we do it in person. No. I don't want to say it because it's it's not true. We've never really done it in person. And when you hear what it is, you'll know why we don't do it in person because it might feel weird. Uh to lay this up, the thing that we do in every time we meet is called a debrief. And we use debrief in many ways, right? There's Zoom has a meeting summary. If you have the paid version, if you use AI at work in your corporate job, it's probably taking AI's taking minutes, or there is a human person taking minutes. In a courtroom, there is a stenographer, somebody who is just taking notes of everything. There's a whole transcript. But we have a takeaway from an experience. A court reporter clearly is in the moment. That is that person's sole job. But what happens when we don't have the appointed person? Then we are the ones taking the minutes. We are the ones that are saying, I really enjoyed myself or I didn't enjoy myself. I liked this, I didn't like that. And why do it? In the corporate world, I'm sure that part of it is CYA. Part of it is business acumen. You just make sure that you're on top of the things that transpired. Why do it in our own lives? Why do Brenda and I do it? Partially. Because it's an amazing way to digest. Digest what just happened. And what is digestion? We may think of digestion, it may take your mind directly to food. You eat and then you digest food. You your body will create energy from certain food. It will have nutrients from certain food. And we don't just digest food, we digest our lives. I'm thinking the first thing that comes to mind for me is when you see a toddler that had played all day. Toddlers that have FOMO or babies that have FOMO and they do not want to go to bed, and they are not fun to be around. It is like it is time to take a nap, and that baby does not want to take a nap. Baby wants to stay playing full out. You don't see it as clearly in an adult, but you may feel it a lot clearer as an adult. You don't feel necessarily bloated the way you would if you ate too much. But the sensation is sort of you feel full. Like you're.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, Catherine. I love this topic. I think this is one of those topics that is overlooked in our society. Digestion. And we talk about this a lot. We talk about it in terms of slowing down. And in order to digest experiences, the way you're talking about, the way you framed so beautifully, you need to be able to slow down. And our society does not encourage that. We have a keep going, go on to the next thing mentality. And it's actually getting worse. I was thinking to think of another word for worse. It's getting faster, which to me feels worse. But that's my opinion. Maybe everyone doesn't think so. I think it gets harder when it goes faster because then you really need to hold yourself and choose to slow down because the world does not slow down. We have this idea that we keep going, but that's not the way our bodies are really designed. That's not the way nature is. Nature doesn't keep going. The sun comes up, the sun goes down. It's summer, it's fall, it's winter. There's transition times. And digestion of experiences is actually when you're doing it in intentionally, the way we do, the way you you're talking about, it's a transition. And it's a time that you're intentionally creating to digest or have or integrate or reflect upon your experience. Just like when you eat. So you have a meal, you don't just go to the next meal. Now, sometimes you do, because that could be really fun. I I'm at a buffet and I just go from one thing to the other. It's super fun, right? But then how do you feel afterwards? You just might have a bellyache, you feel sick, you feel full, you're full of sleep, right? There comes a point where more is not better. And we need to be really intentional about that because our world is not set up that way. So in order to even digest or do anything that we're talking about, I think that needs to be understood. Like if you want to have more of what you want in your life, it's really not about adding more. It's about slowing down to have what you what you already have in your life. You know, it's slowing down to digest the experiences that you've already lived. So any thoughts on that before we go on?
SPEAKER_01Yes. The first thought that came to me that I had not thought about when we were talking about recording on this is how so many of us suffer from gut health in the world. And I'm like, what is the mental health version of that? Of us eroding. Like when you said, oh, it just gets worse, and there is drilling above me right now. So if you hear that, it is construction that is outside of my control. So I'm definitely in my involuntary over here. That's a side note. Okay, let me come back to what I was saying. When you say it gets worse, it's only getting worse with our society, or we're only moving faster. If I had to slow down there, I would say that the worst part is I don't have a word yet for gut health, like we're talking, but that's the part. It's like we're not able to digest life at that speed. Some things do get lost. The intensity, the speed, has it be that we don't absorb as much of the nutrient. It just is. I don't know how better to describe that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this is great. First of all, I just want to say you're rocking the drilling. You're rocking the drilling. So when I think of the mental health version of gut health in that way of not digesting your experiences, I think it comes out as things that we've kind of normalized in our society, but are really unhealthy. Overthinking, overdoing, beating yourself up, being cut off from your intuition, constantly wanting more instead of slowing down to have what you already have, addiction, being reactive, right? Like all of those things, they're like, I'm thinking of the word I want to say diseases or problems of the mind, difficulties, struggles of the mind.
SPEAKER_01I'm thinking it's like a life nutrient. It's sort of we know our gut is what translates into nutrition, right? We eat something, we absorb it, and the body has to decide: is this an amino acid? Is this a fatty acid? And then, okay, am I turning it into energy? Am I going to put it somewhere and store it? And that's a completely automatic, unconscious thing that happens. We don't have to think about, I don't have to think about whether or not my body's going to take a carrot and know what to do with it. No thought. None of my thinking goes into that. How much processed food I take in I intake, that will contribute, but it's not anything mental or uh, I guess the physical attribute that we do do is after we eat, we can go for a walk. It will help, but we're still not actively working on it. Life's nutrition does require us to slow down to absorb. And we don't necessarily have that many examples of that. We have done episodes on ritual. Ritual is helpful in the slowing down. Um yes, I don't have a word for it quite yet, but I know. Yes, what let's let's massage this out. What comes up?
Signs You Are Too Full
SPEAKER_00I don't have a word for it. I think you're on to something there. And whatever the word is, hopefully our listeners can feel what we're talking about. I think that's the deeper thing. And we do get full from experiences, and we tend to add more on. You went to a party, we have to go to work the next day, whatever your experience is. And what I'm trying to point to is that being full isn't a bad thing from your experiences. We get full, that is a marker that we've had enough. But because we don't really have ritual and slowing down anymore, we often miss those markers. We're not necessarily attuned to those markers anymore because ritual isn't built into our life. Our ritual these days is like social media and being online, and it's like fast and more and fast and more. Ritual and digestion requires a slowing down. So it's like the opposite of what the world is calling for. So it really takes a lot of awareness and consciousness to do that. And like the signs that you're full, like you said, that toddler. Sometimes I'm that toddler. I'm like tired and cranky. And I'm like, oh, where did I have too much and not slow down to digest? Where did I do too much? Right. And sometimes it's life. It's that that happens. I had a day like that yesterday. It was a very full day. There were a lot of things going on. I had a couple of emotional things going on. I was holding a lot. I did a lot. Felt great. And then at the end of the day, I was really tired. So I know at that point I need to slow down and integrate. And that's what digestion is is to integrate. But the markers, the signs that we're full, we generally make those things problems. So if somebody is has a big experience, say you take a course for a weekend, or you go on a retreat or a vacation, or you went to visit family for the weekend, whatever it is, it's something big that you wanted to do that you were looking forward to. You come back and you're tired and you're suddenly like, everyone's annoying you. Suddenly the house is a mess when it didn't bother you before. You're cranky, you're irritable, you're overeating, you're picking a fight with your husband, you're yelling at your kids after you just had this great time together. Those are signs that you need to pause and digest. That's the symptom that you need to digest. And we're usually relating on that level when actually it's something else completely. You're full, you've eaten a lot, and now it's time to digest. Does this make sense? Undigested life. Undigested life.
SPEAKER_01When we have overfed ourselves with life, we feel overfed. There's a high input, whether information high input, experience high input, but there's somewhere where maybe just life has been fast, input with high speed. Potentially we're overfed with emotional richness. And we have discomfort, and we think maybe, oh, why do I need so much sleep? Why do I need caffeine? Why do I need an ordered home, orderly home? Why do I we make it a problem, like you said, versus not that those things aren't problems on their own sometimes? Sometimes it's just undigested life. It's like a sign that we have something to digest.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So if your kid went to a party, he had a great time, he comes home, and all of a sudden he's cranky and not listening. You might say to him, you're not listening, and you're dealing with him on the listening level, when really he just needs to slow down and rest and be held. That's what your child needs in those moments. He's not being bad. He's not a bad listener. He's not being rude. But if we deal with it on that level, we're missing something. Right. And it's the same thing with ourselves. We need to hold our child in that situation. But the truth is, if we're talking about parenting, like you can't do that for your child if you don't know how to do that for yourself. So we need to take care of ourselves first. We need to take care of ourselves and we need to take of our inner child in that way. We can we need to hold ourselves. We need to hold the different parts of ourselves, right? And so we need to be able to slow down. And this is a priceless practice. And I want to just normalize, like bring it down. Like you might need a digestion after a full week of work.
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SPEAKER_00If you had a bunch of things going on at work, if you had big meetings, you del you released a new product, whatever it is, you might need a digestion after a week of work. You may go to a family wedding on a Saturday. Your whole family gets dressed up, you come home, you're gonna need some digestion from that. You're tired Saturday night, you're tired Sunday morning. It's not like just going on to the next thing. We need to digest. It's the same for anything. Any experience that we have is going to require some digestion.
SPEAKER_01I'm remembering when I used to drink for that reason. I'm remembering myself saying, Oh, I need a drink. Wow.
SPEAKER_00That's the thing I thought of. Yeah, I mean, it's a great point because it's uncomfortable. There's some uncomfortable feelings in your body, right? And here's the thing, like you said before, if you're not digesting your experiences, you're going to have that feeling like you over ate and you feel sick, except it's in your mind. So you're going to be picking fights, causing problems, creating problems where there really aren't any. You're having an expansion of some kind. Even if it's a great week at work, a family party, a vacation, a course that you went to for the weekend, or if you're with your coach and you had a great session. It it could be any or all of those things and so much more. You need time to digest. If you don't, you're going to create problems. Oh, here's what I was trying to get to. You're having you when you have these experiences, you have an expansion of some port, some kind. So you have an expansion and your body needs to integrate that expansion. Your body needs to catch up. Your body moves slower. And so we need to give ourselves intentional time for our bodies and our systems to get the new memo, to get the upgrade. Just like you would charge your phone at night and it takes Apple overnight to upgrade your phone to the next operating system. You're the same way. I want to hear what you want to say. And then I also want to talk about some ways that people can do this.
SPEAKER_01The thing that popped up for me when we were talking about, well, I thought about drinking, right? Like, oh, I need a drink. And people saying, Oh, I need a night out, or oh, I need a girl's night, or oh, I need a vacation, or oh, I deserve that dessert. I need a chocolate bar, or I need some chocolate, or let me have a glass of. Of wine, let me. There are all these ways that we use to sort of taper the discomfort, but we haven't really talked about what the what was the step before the discomfort, what was the peak at that end. We have definitely talked on this podcast about peaks and valleys. So there's a peak experience, and then we're talking about how do you digest that peak experience. And then you said, um, going to go back to something you said when you spoke about, or we create a fight. That's one example of how we will blow something up so that we can have the automatic down. And the down is where we would rest, recover, digest, or just be pissed at whoever that we're we're making, we're making them wrong so we could be mad, so that we could have a moment to digest. We are going to digest in one way or another. And that may look like an unintentional digestion where you're blowing something up in a relationship because you need your alone time. Or you can practice some of what we're going to talk about here. And we've definitely talked about restoration, recovery, we've talked about peaks and valleys. We've talked about that we can't always be the body in motion that's going up. You know, not even the stock market does that. We don't always just go up. We're going to have moments where we feel like I have an emotional buildup, or I keep repeating these patterns. Um, when we feel ourselves being reactive, there are these places where it's letting us know there's an undigested experience. And that is an opportunity for us to digest, to slow down, like you were saying, to live a more digested life, to reap the rewards of that experience, reap the rewards of the weekend, the vacation, the time off. It means that maybe we can become a little bit more mindful and intentional around a vacation or a trip or a time with family, scheduling in the downtime that will provide for easier digestion.
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. And you really hit the nail on the head when you said schedule in. Catherine's a calendar lover. She's been teaching me so much about calendars, but that's a story for another day. When you do something new, you have a new experience, you saved up and you went on vacation with your family. Whatever the thing is, you are now a new person. You're a person who has had these wonderful experiences. You swam with the dolphins. Your kid tried a new food and they loved it. Whatever it is, it could be something really small like that. You went to a course and you learned about how to hold your desire. Maybe you listen to a podcast or you you learned something new, something that you wanted. But not digesting it is a way to sabotage yourself from actually having it and keeping yourself at the same level that you were before when you're saying you want to expand. And that's why you went to the course. That's why you went to the vacation to have some fun. So if you don't digest it, you're kind of keeping yourself at the same level.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So this may feel like a lot. Brenda and I are giving each other eyes here. Like maybe this episode wasn't so simple how we thought. Oh, we're just gonna talk about digestion. It's gonna be super easy. It's gonna be super quick. Like a really quick small episode. But what we're talking about is oh, what happens when you feel really full with life? When something is undigested, when something inside of your body, like when you physically feel heavy, as if you have bloating or inflammation, but it's not due to food. What we're talking about is can we begin to master the art of digesting our own lives? Can we stop carrying everything with us? Can we pause, put our bag down, and say, wow, I just been through a lot. Like, can I digest here?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So let's talk about some ways that we digest our own experiences. Yeah. Because I know that we both do this and we have so many great ideas. I can't live life without it. Yeah, totally. Because it's true. Well, here's the thing. I used to live life without it. And then I was creating problems all the time and fighting with people, and I was exhausted. Also, what we didn't talk about was like sometimes you get into an accident because you're so full, you're like really not thinking clearly, or you cut yourself with a knife. You know, you hear things like that all the time.
SPEAKER_01There's a there's an arc that happens when we're too full. I don't want to say that we're accident prone or fall prone, trip front prone, but something does occur. It's as if it's a lot easier to go unconscious. I want to say that. I think being full, there comes that might be a different sign, like a different red flag for us. I think it becomes harder to stay present and reacting in real time with life when we have a lot of undigested life.
Practical Ways To Digest Life
SPEAKER_00Just like at the buffet. If you eat too much at the buffet, you're gonna fall asleep in the car on the way home. It's the same thing. She's laughing, but it's the same kind of thing. You're going unconscious in a way because of too much. Right? So, what are some ways that we digest our life? I'm gonna share a couple, and then I would love to hear from you. I I do yoga. Let's just say I had a big weekend and I'm about to have a big weekend. My daughter's coming in for the weekend. I've here's where it starts. I blocked off Monday on my calendar. I have nothing scheduled on Monday. It's a Brenda digestion day. So that's the first step right there is I actually blocked it off on my calendar. And I'll spend Monday sleeping in a little bit. I'll take walks. I'll do some yoga. Maybe I'll go to a yoga class, maybe I'll go to the sauna. These are all body-based things. I'm going to eat good food. I'm going to eat healthy food. I'm going to drink a lot of water. I'm going to get some kind of movement. Also, other ways to digest are writing. Writing down your experiences, writing down gratitudes, writing down desires, writing down what went really well over this weekend and what I like to do different next time, anything like that. Other kinds of ways to digest are sex, dancing, going out to dinner with friends, calling a friend, taking a nap, maybe watching a great movie. Those are some basic ways that I digest. What about you, Catherine?
SPEAKER_01So you just had me think about that digestion has two pieces. Remember earlier I was talking about digesting food, where the body has to decide is this nutrition or is this energy? Well, talk about full circle. It happens here too. Because we can digest with something physical. Like you can go for a walk, you can go do cardio, you can run, you can scream, you can shake, you can jump rope. But there's also like an emotional digestion. There is a mental digestion that happens in order to sort of reap the benefit and the nutrient. I'm thinking about how some of my clients, a lot of them, will say, Oh, he just needed space. Like this is very common for men. You'll get into an argument and then they just need to go for a walk. They need to do something physical to sort of move through. I was also looking at reading, um, this is such a side note, but I was reading a uh statistics on a study of how for troubled boys and teens, they tend to be a lot more vulnerable and bondable with when they're out in nature and walking and doing things with people because they don't have to be staring at somebody face to face. I would also argue that they're experiencing that physical component of the body, just being able to sort of release. And so back to the point at hand here where we're talking about digestion of life. And yes, there's a physical, you can dance, you can run, you can scream, you can, and you can journal. Maybe it's also you can I do this often on a call or with a friend. I will say, hey, I just need five minutes to say X, Y, or Z so I can land here, so I can be really present. Because in that moment, I'm experiencing it as I can't really be present to the conversation that's about to take place because part of me is thinking about all these other things. Or it will sound like I'm leaving a friend a voice note and saying, I'm having the bad the time of my life. I can't wait to express and tell you blah blah blah, and maybe I'll just go into the voice note and share it. Where I know it's moving from digestion to dumping is if afterwards I feel like, like I just got rid of everything. Okay, well, I just dumped on whoever I called or left a voice note to. But it should feel in my physical system like, oh, I shared that. That was really nice to share. I shared part of my life, I shared part of my emotion, and the person gets to feel it. Recently, I'm assuming I've shared this on the podcast, but one of my groups closed and I've been receiving testimonials, and it's a great digestion for my students, my clients. As they've been writing certain things to me, I can really see and feel their growth, and they can really see and feel their growth. Yes, I am benefiting from the testimonial, but at the same time, I can really see the digestion happening for them. These are some of the ways that digestion comes up for me. Now, what I do daily, like a daily basis, prayer is one of my ways. Gratitude is another way of digesting. At the end of the day, I try to think of to myself what are three things that show me evidence that I'm getting closer to some of the things that I'm wanting to build and create. Let me know if somewhere I'm slacking.
SPEAKER_00But those are the things that you're such a slacker. Catherine's so not a slacker. Oh my God, she's a Capricorn. They don't slack. Those are gorgeous. You reminded me when you said about the emotional component. Sometimes you just need to cry, too. Even if it was a beautiful time that you had, right? Maybe there are residual feelings that came out that need to come out, and you don't need to make that a problem. You don't need to make it a problem. Maybe you just need to cry.
SPEAKER_01I think crying is one of the best ways, especially around beauty, when you experience more love than you ever have in a circumstance. Yes. More goodness, and you feel so vulnerable and open, and like somebody just shot you to the back of the heart and you cry. It's not even from grief. Sometimes it's excitement. Sometimes it's just the fastest way for your body to clear and digest.
Long-Term Digestion Into Wisdom
SPEAKER_00Yeah, really beautiful. And on that note, digestion is it could be a slippery slope if you start getting really into the story of things or overprocessing. Just like everything. Okay, ready? Just like everything, there's even a time to put digestion down. Because you can over-digest and get cranky or make problems, right? Everything has its time and its place to start and end. So these are some great things that we talked about. You brought up some really beautiful things. And I want to also say there's the smaller things that you digest in your life, like some of the examples that we gave. And then there's the larger experiences of our life, right? I got divorced after a 21-year marriage. I needed a lot of digestion. I had to like clear a lot of the charge. And then once I cleared a lot of the charge and the anger, then I really got to the beauty of the whole thing and got to digest that over time. Or when I left my 22-year teaching career, that is not digested in a day or a week or a year. It's actually taking me years to digest both of those things. Raising my kids has taken me, it's still happening. Obviously, they're adults, so it's different. But some of these big things in my life are always unfolding and digesting because you get new perspectives on them. They're like integrating into my body, and then I have new wisdom.
SPEAKER_01Now we're talking about a different layer of digestion that I didn't introduce when we were first talking, but that is the we digest, digest, digest, and then there's a filtration that happens and we have wisdom left over. And there are these bigger places marriage, divorce, child raising, grief, loss, and you're sort of digesting and taking out compost, I don't know, get getting gaining wisdom, and it does happen in stages. It reminds me of, you know, we can only see what we're ready to see at the time. And that's a little bit of a different conversation, but we're going to digest what we're able to digest at the time that we can digest it. And you're right, we can definitely get to a place where we're overly digesting. And I'm not trying to discourage anybody from the action of digestion. It's sort of a skill. And like all skills, you just practice, right? You practice digesting a weekend, you practice digesting your week. You practice, oh, what has me feel lighter, more spacious, like I can receive more? What have I done that has me feel like there's more room? Less like, oh, I feel stressed out. Let me have a drink. Oh, I feel better now that I drank. Oh, next day I'm hungover. Less like that. More like, oh, that was a tough day at work. Went, did some cardio, sat, asked myself what went well, what didn't. I have some information I can go into the next day feeling a lot more refreshed and ready for the day ahead.
SPEAKER_00Gorgeous.
SPEAKER_01Brenda and I have introduced digestion, introduced all the pieces that we can think of in this moment of undigested life. It was really a lot bigger to deliver than I originally thought when we were introducing this conversation.
SPEAKER_00Because this is a course. This is a book or a year-long course, seriously, in digestion. Do you know how many things I didn't say in this episode? This is huge, way hugger. We're like, oh, we'll do a little, we'll do a little digestion episode. Okay.
SPEAKER_01I love how Brenda will just pop in and say, um, yeah, so much bigger than we thought. So I don't know if the next episode will be on digestion or not. This was a lot. Uh, but you saw us sort of bringing in thoughts from the ethers in real time, especially considering that we sort of set up to give you like a quick and dirty, and instead we went deep and wide. So here we are. May I hope you enjoyed the deep and wide podcast here today. The deep and wide delivery that we gave today. And there is so much more to be said on this topic, honestly, on undigested life. May you reap the rewards of everything that you have experienced. We want that and more, and so it is. Until next time. Thank you for listening.
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