Self-Worth Revolution: Tips for your Transformational Journey

Awakening the Warrior Within: Embracing Self-Love and the Wisdom of Intuition with Mirabai

• Vivian Medrano • Season 1 • Episode 8

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Have you ever considered that your most profound teacher resides within you? Join me, Vivian Medrano, and the insightful Mirabai as we peel back the layers of societal expectations to rediscover the guiding force of our instincts and intuition. Together, we traverse the landscape of self-awareness, celebrating our imperfections as badges of honor and recognizing the value of every individual as a unique part of nature's tapestry. This episode isn't just about learning to trust yourself; it's an awakening to the beauty of self-worth and the power of embracing life's lessons with an open heart.

Embarking on a mentorship can illuminate paths we never knew existed, and over eight soul-stirring years, I've found that embracing each moment with love can lead to a remarkable shift in reality. Meditation and yoga become more than mere practices; they emerge as acts of defiance against a society quick to dismiss the spiritual for the rational. This episode encourages a transformation, challenging you to question the passive acceptance of victimhood and inviting you to become the master of your journey through the healing power of self-compassion and the nurturing of our often-neglected inner child.

As we unspool the threads of our conversation, the essence of self-compassion and the communal power it holds come to light. Imagine the impact of a world where self-regulated individuals inspire calm and confidence merely through their presence. In sharing my 14-year odyssey of self-discovery, I extend my heartfelt appreciation for the support that has been both a foundation and a beacon. This episode is an invitation to join a movement of empowerment, to follow a path laid by self-love, and to honor the warrior within each of us as we support one another on this transformative quest.

Insight on our beautiful and empowering guest speaker Mirabai:

She spent 15 years in the mental health field, focusing on trauma, anxiety, depression, and stress-related issues. During this time, she has seen the resilience and healing capabilities of individuals. She has a Master's in Social Work and a BA in Forensic Psychology, which equips her with a deep understanding of the human mind and heart, and their interactions with the world.

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Speaker 1:

And my instinct was saying like something feels fishy, something feels off, and I'm like nah, that's not what it is, you're crazy, right. And I realized that, actual, my best navigator, my guru, is my instinct and my intuition combined together and they're working for me. And I realized that mine wants to know, right, mine wants to know, wants to have answer, wants to have facts, and we are raising a society that is emulating intelligence, right, but not intuition, not love.

Speaker 2:

They want us to not be intuitive, not to listen to our body, because then they could control our actions Exactly. And that's where fear comes in. People are being controlled by fear, Totally, totally.

Speaker 1:

And we don't even realize it, that we're being controlled by the fear. It's like that's the. We are so conditioned to it that we don't even realize when that dialogue holds fearful vibration and frequency. We don't even realize the words that we are using coming from the place of fear, right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, welcome to the self-worth revolution podcast hosted by Vivian Medrano. I am not only a podcaster, but a mother, a nurse, a life coach and a survivor. This podcast is about turning your pain into your power, your experiences into your lessons and to start living a life full of abundance, inner peace and fulfillment. My higher purpose for my listeners to find their self-worth and their value by following their path to greatness. We are all deserving of living our best lives. It is time to stop identifying with our past. Start living in the present for a better future. This podcast will have guest speakers that will share their stories of how they transformed their lives and found their worth.

Speaker 2:

My mission is to let my listeners know this is your time to shine, to know that you are not alone. Feeling is empowering. It takes courage to be vulnerable and our voices have power. Hold on to your lives, because this will be an incredible ride of self-transformation, self-empowerment and radical change. It is time for us to take our power back. Welcome to the Self-worth Revolution podcast. I'm here with Meedabai and she's just amazing light of energy for all of us to work with. I'm not going to hold back. I want her to introduce herself completely and fully and authentically herself, because she's amazing.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, thank you so much, vivian. So amazing to be here with you just to see you grow and flourish and step in into yourself and into your power. It's just thank you for inviting me and I'm learning from you Right now as we're speaking.

Speaker 2:

I love that. I know we could both learn from each other. I mean, that's the beauty of this right. It's like the beauty of our journey is that we meet amazing people to come into our lives and we learn from them, because we're like imperfect beings, all the time learning and becoming just more powerful within ourselves, but we never could ever be perfect per se. You know, that's the beauty of it, because not being perfect means that you're always growing to aim for higher and better all the time.

Speaker 1:

Well, absolutely. You know, I don't believe in perfection, I believe in evolution. So, as a human beings, we are here to evolve right, as a spirit and a human body. We're here to expand that consciousness and awareness and to realize our true nature, right. And that is the journey that we are on realizing our true nature, not what we are told that we are or not what we told ourselves that we are, but really who we are. So there's no such thing as perfection. It's mind made it up.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's just people who think they're perfect and think there's nothing wrong with themselves. It's like, are you really human? Because I'm like the last time I noticed. We're very imperfect beings and that's the beauty of it. We're so unique with our own imperfections. That's beautiful, you know. It's like it's beautiful to be able to say we are imperfect and instead of seeing our imperfections that's something weak, that's something negative about us, we're able to see them and embrace it and be like this is me.

Speaker 1:

But that's what makes you beautiful. If you look at the tree, every tree is different and unique and it has its own imperfection. Now, if you zoom in and just focus on that imperfection, you lose the sight of the beauty of the entire tree Right. And so it's like zooming out and looking at the whole tree, you begin to see how beautiful that tree is and what that little imperfection is there, how it makes it so unique and different from another tree, you know, and gives it a whole another feel that you get to experience it.

Speaker 2:

I always love to be in nature, I love to hike. I think being within mother nature it brings you to a place of peace and tranquility, away from chaos, you know. And so you're only within yourself. And a lot of times you're like I can't believe you hike alone. And I do it not because I feel unsafe or because I fear of being unsafe. I actually like that is the last things that come to my mind a lot of times is when I hike solo. What comes to my mind is here, in a place where I'm by myself and I'm able to just focus and work on me.

Speaker 2:

And now, when I see a tree, I've always taught like trees are beautiful. I love to see like they're all so uniquely made right, like the way mother nature just brings them is like some are bendings, some are not, some have a lot of branches, some have a few branches, some have everlasting greens and some don't. You know that it's so beautiful. That's like us, who are all so different and unique too right. And then they all have their own little lines, like you just said. Now I'm like, now that I see the lines, I'm gonna be like oh, that's our inner selves. That is who we are too. That makes us, you know, and a lot of times we lose focus because we're so focused on the outside that we forget to focus on what's inside, and that's what you're working on right now.

Speaker 2:

And I absolutely love it and I want you to talk about it because it's the first time I hear about it and I see you and I know you guys can't see her, but she has a huge smile from cheek to cheek and glowing. I guess she's been working on this project and it's called the Self Relational.

Speaker 1:

Experience yeah, self Relational Experience, self Relational Study.

Speaker 2:

Got it cause it's beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's been a long time in making self relational. So I call it self relational because it is about your relationship to yourself and what I have discovered throughout the years of my practice. I have my backgrounds in social work, I did psychotherapy for years in mental health settings and so I have like a professional experience and knowledge, but as well personal. You know, being a seeker and being on my own healing path and you know, one of the things that I've discovered is like, wow, like like I don't hear people talk about their relationship to themselves. I hear people talk about their relationships to others, but it's like where is the self? Where are we in the relationship to self? And on my healing journey, that's what I discovered. It's like this is about me and my relationship to self. What kind of relationship am I having? Like I'm not having any. Actually, I don't know. It's like, you know. It's like when you discover. It's like, oh my God, like I'm absent, like hello, anybody home? No, nobody's home, nobody's home.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I purposely decided to call it self relational study, in part because it's exactly about that studying your own relationship with self and healing your own relationship with self. Right, the other part is in yoga, ashtanga yoga, 8-limb yoga. There is part of that 8-limb yoga is self study and my teacher my teacher, who's also a mystic monk he talked about the self study with me. He was the one that introduced me in a way that I still have not seen anybody talks about in the self study in the way he did. And initially, when I met him, like my head was twisting, I was like what? Like the new language, new concept? Like you know, it's like he would say boo, boo boy, why don't you read the book of your own Genesis? And I'm like he was like read the alphabet of your own Genesis. And I'm like I don't know what that means. Like I don't know what that means.

Speaker 2:

either I would be like you.

Speaker 1:

But he used metaphoric language and it took me a while to like, okay, what does that mean, love yourself? And I'm like, what do you mean, love myself? Do I hug myself? Like what do I do? I don't know how to love myself. And he goes, you know. So you know he talked about a lot about the self right and the self that goes beyond the construct of our mind. He talked about the body being the vehicle of the self right, the self being the driver and the body being the vehicle and you driving your own vehicle right? And you know, initially it was. It was hard, you know, because he was introducing me to concepts that I never heard. But then he was also asking me to figure it out on my own, because I would be like, okay, how do you do this? Give me a book to read. And he was like, why do you want to read somebody else's school of thoughts? Why do you want to be in their school? Why don't you be in your own school? I'm like what? Oh my God, I love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he really made you think oh my God. That is so amazing Because a lot of times we forget to work on our inner selves, we lose connection with who we are. And I think in part on why we lose connection with who we truly are is because once you really go inside yourself, there's a lot of things in there that you don't want to deal with. And that is the hardest part for people is to go into your inner, inner self and say what happened to me, why am I attracting this or why am I reacting in this way? Why am I upset? You know, and just knowing all that to me is just been my growth, because now I could say when I say I truly love myself, when I say I truly am happy, it's because now I'm working within myself, I'm not suppressing my trauma, my childhood abuse.

Speaker 2:

You know what I saw growing up as a child, that a child should never see.

Speaker 2:

I'm dealing with that and I know that's part of me, and now I've come to embrace it and understand that I had to go through that to become a more empowered me and to be able to now help people because I'm able to relate, I'm able to understand.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking from my own personal experience, and so, therefore, it's like, yes, I was scared for 46 years to work on my inner self. I thought I was healing and I was never healing, never was a healing until I decided to really look from within and acknowledge that what I went through as a child, what I was programmed, as you know, my issues as a teenager everything manifested from how I grew up and until I changed, that, oh my God, a world of just greatness and abundance opened up for me, and I'm just like you mean all that pain that I've been holding in has been my power all along. Yeah, I want to hear more what this month like revelated to you, because it's just, if I was there, I would be like just stone cold, staring like, please talk more. What do you mean by this? You know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was like he had. I lived with him for eight years. He had morning satsangs, which means sitting with the truth, and we would have discussions, different discussions, about the self and the love of self and loving your own inner child. He was really, really, really big on that, very big on connecting with your own intuition and letting your intuition be your inner guru, meaning like the one that leads you from darkness to light.

Speaker 2:

Guru I like that yeah guru.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know, and we all have our own inner guru. You know and so he introduced me that a life is a school of intuition, that we are here to learn to be a student, but also the master of self and the teacher of self. Also, we are both simultaneously a student and the master of self, so you're learning from yourself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want you to explain that a little bit. I kind of understand. So you're a teacher. I mean you're a student because you're always learning from yourself, your challenges, from your growth, from just life in general. Whatever is thrown at you, you learn from it. You learn from your darkness to turn it into your light. You don't avoid anything, you don't suppress anything, you welcome everything into your life and then you're a master of yourself because through all that you're able to create your authentic life. I mean, you got it.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people are losing, are losing that. I could honestly say I would not have got it before, not until I started working on myself. Yeah, I could not have understood that because I would have still been in that phase in my life where everything happened to me not for me and blame it on everybody else for what I was feeling, the way I was feeling, and not until I came to the understanding that I had control over my actions and my decisions and what I went through, and I had to understand that Now I'm taking mastery. I guess, like you say, I've never thought of that of my life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's exactly what it is, because when you begin to understand, it's all about perspective, what perspective you come from. If you come from a perspective of a victim, being a victim of life, victim of people and situations, then what is going to be fad in you is the fear and hopelessness and helplessness and total state of disempowerment. How are you going to experience joy or happiness, a sense of contentment or laughter in your life if you believe that you are victim of something? And the thing is in the society? If you really look at it, a lot of society believes in the victimhood and that's one of the things that my teacher really initially had to break out of me when I met him, because I was very much introduced into the school of victimhood and believed in things that didn't actually help me to empower myself, and I learned about radical accountability that that is my way to reclaiming my power by being able to really take ownership of my part that I made in every action, whether it's conscience or unconscious. The first thing that I had to break through is that I made a decision, I made a choice and it wasn't a conscious choice, but it was a choice. I made unconscious choice and still, it's a choice, and that's the thing when we are in the victimhood state, we don't believe that we have choices and we don't believe that we are making choices either. And so that's the first step to your own liberation. It's like taking that full accountability, because that's how I, in a lot of aspects of my life, I took my power back. I was like, oh well, I can take it back, okay, because you recognize, it's like well, that night I was drinking, I made a choice to drink and I put myself at rest. Yes, I did Not to blame self or anything. A judge is just what I did.

Speaker 1:

It was done out of ignorance, out of lack of awareness, and this is something that I think in the Christian societies don't promote. I was born in a Christian orthodox religion, not that I practiced it, but they don't encourage meditation. In fact, they find it highly threatening, demonic and terrified. So when they hear that I meditate, I had one friend said, who is educated, mind you, phd degree in science and he said to me when you're meditating, you're inviting the devil. And I was like I almost laughed. I was like are you kidding me? Are you kidding me Like you are educated, individual right, like your PhD in science and you're telling me that I'm inviting a devil. It's like there's so much ignorance around and I think that small group of people don't want us to be self aware, because when you're self aware, you become powerful, you can make your own choices. You're informed, you're being informed by your own awareness, by your own consciousness. You're being fully present, and that is the true power.

Speaker 2:

It's so true. I have somebody tell me that recently, and I do believe in God, but I talk to God in my own way. I'm a firm believer that meditation has got me through so much being able to quiet my mind, quiet my thoughts and converting my negative thoughts into being more optimistic and being more positive and being more conscious of my decisions and actions and what I do in life. And I've done that through meditation because I'm able to connect with myself, with my spiritual self within. And so when they said that to me, they're like you know, when you're meditating and they even said yoga, and when you do yoga, when you do anything like that, you're actually inviting the devil and you're opening up the doors to darkness. And I was like what Wait? Isn't prayer meditation too? I was like because when I pray, I meditate, I'm like I'm in my quiet area, so I don't know where you're getting that from. But I don't believe that's to be true because, believe me, I feel more empowered now than I did before. And it has to do because I'm so in tune with my body, I'm so in tune with what my body feels, what I'm going through, that I don't ignore anything that now it's like I feel, like I'm so empowered that, even like people feel my energy and know when you're not welcomed in my energy and it's not because I am mean or I'm pushing people away or anything like that I'm very welcoming person it's, I think, because my energy is such a high vibration what they say that I don't welcome certain people that are at a certain place in their life right now because they're not allowed into my space. And it's to protect me. And it's not made by choice, it's made for me, you know, and so I don't question it. I've lost some friends along this journey and it wasn't because I said I don't want to be your friend, it just was something that naturally happened because the universe felt like they just were not in a space that I needed to be in.

Speaker 2:

Now, now that I'm working on myself, and so I've heard that too, and that was the first time I heard that and I was like what? I was so shocked. I was like, wow, and I guess because now and I feel like this is very spiritual we're very spiritual beings, right, so why would we welcome darkness when we're trying to get actually? No, we welcome darkness in a way, but the only reason why is because we didn't face those struggles and we didn't face those challenges. We can't empower ourselves without failure. We have to fail to succeed. Right, I take that back. We don't want to avoid that darkness. We want to welcome it because we're learning. How can we learn if everything's perfect and we're just going to be walking in this linear line of boredom?

Speaker 1:

Well, the thing is that belief comes from a fear. You see, in my perspective, in my own study, what I realized, it's fear and love to driving forces that drive the entire humanity and we as a society are rooted in fear, driven by fear, the whole society is formed like with the fear. And if you really think about it, I always say that Jesus' teachings were so like misused and misunderstood. He came in to teach about the power of love, yes, but he got misused and fear thrown in there to control people, right, and you know, fear is going to always bring you down and weaken you, right, it's not going to build you up, you're not going to have a really weak foundation and when there is a fear, there's no room for love.

Speaker 1:

Those two things can exist simultaneously. Whether there is fear, there is no compassion. Whether it's fear, there's no forgiveness. Whether it's fear, there's no kindness. Whether it's fear, there is no patience. So the higher vibrational emotions cannot exist because the fear is about I need to survive and I am going to do everything possible to survive and I'm not having any empathy for you, you know, and that's you don't have a human connection with me at all.

Speaker 1:

No, there isn't, because you know that's part of that instinct, animal instinct, our animal instinct to self-preserve. And you know there's nothing wrong with the fear. But the thing is we need to learn how to work with the fear, you know, because fear has helped us to survive as a human species and to thrive. And there's nothing wrong with animal instinct. Because, through my history of my own personal trauma, my relationship with my instinct and intuition got severely damaged.

Speaker 1:

I stopped trusting it and it took me a year to realize that my instinct and my intuition of right on, they were always on. It was my mind playing the game with me and said no, that cannot be. Look how they behave, look how everybody loves them, Look the title that they have, look how well known they are. And my instinct was saying like, something feels fishy, something feels off, and I'm like nah, that's not what it is. You're crazy, right. And you know. I realized that, actual, my best navigator, my guru, is my instinct and my intuition combined together and they're working for me. And I realized that mind wants to know, right, mind wants to know, wants to have answer, wants to have facts, and we are raised in a society that is emulating intelligence. Right, but not intuition.

Speaker 2:

Not love. They want us to not be intuitive, not to listen to our body, because then they could control our actions Exactly. And that's where fear comes in. People can are being controlled by fear, you know, constantly, totally.

Speaker 1:

And we don't we don't even realize it that we're being controlled by the fear. It's like that's the. We are so conditioned to it that we don't even realize when that dialogue holds fearful vibration and frequency. We don't even realize the words that we are using coming from the place of fear. Right, it's just like so unconscious and unaware. You know, but what I've learned is that intuition and instinct is beyond the mind's knowing. It's knowing beyond mind's knowing. And when you can accept that intuition and instinct is knowing beyond mind's knowing and trust that knowing without knowing, that's where your power is. That's what feels.

Speaker 2:

Is it because your body feels it, your body?

Speaker 1:

feels it.

Speaker 2:

Before your mind. You know it.

Speaker 1:

And you just something in you knows it, feels it, knows it, senses it. It's like. It's like when you meet with somebody, the first second you kind of like yes, no right. You instantly your body goes either yes, no right. So the thing is it's like, and then you'll be like in mind goes like well, why are you being like that? You know it's like look how kind, look how nice they are, and your body, your body's saying no, they're not. There's something there that I do not feel safe with. Our instinct knows and our intuition knows, and when we have trauma we need to repair that very thing our trust with our instinct and intuition.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God, I mean, yes, you hit it straight on with me. So in my last relationship, my body knew it knew before I knew. I ignored all of it, all of it, because it was what I was familiar with, what I grew up with, and I did not know. That's why I accepted it. And one day somebody told me you're losing yourself. People could tell me that he was unhealthy, that it wasn't the right thing, but I wasn't going to listen. But when somebody said you're losing yourself, I don't want to lose who I was, my happiness, my me person, and that's when I made the decision to separate myself. But the whole time my body was always anxious. I always felt my body uneasy and I couldn't understand why. Now I do. I understand why, and it took me a while and it's still a process and it's still a journey and I love every second of it and I love the moment I chose me. I want you to talk about how this helps people who have been in trauma, whatever trauma is for them, because everybody's trauma is different.

Speaker 1:

Yes, everybody's trauma is different, but there is universal response and the universal response is that we all develop negative story about ourselves. All of our relationship with that instinct and intuition gets damaged, we get separated from ourselves, we get separated from love and we get separated from God. This is all universal thing that happens and this is where, like for me, the practice of self-compassion and self-love comes in as a tool to restore yourself, to restore the relationship with yourself, because ultimately, what happens when childhood trauma happens is that your sense of self was destroyed even before it got to be developed. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that's so true. And your relationship with self got destroyed even when it had a chance to be developed. It's kind of like planting a seed of tree in the ground but stamping on it and not really watering it all the time, not really giving it attention right, not nourishing it, not nourishing it, and the seed doesn't have the power right To come up right. It gets damaged in the process. And how do you heal that? It's love. It's love and compassion for self.

Speaker 1:

That was Jesus' freaking message. It's love. And love is so undermined and fear is so overrated. And the power of love, like we don't believe in the power of love of self. Self-love, you know, it's like it's like we just dismissed it. And if we do believe it, it's a very superficial. It's like, oh, I go take myself for a massage, I do this. No, that's not what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1:

Self-love, you know. I'm talking about developing deep relationship with yourself, with your inner child, with those aspects of a self that are afraid, that feel ashamed, that feel guilt, that feel jealousy, that feel envy, that feel greedy, that feel, you know, lustful, that feel angry, that feel vengeful. Those are all aspects of self that need to be restored to its true nature and reintegrated back into yourself through practice of self-love and self-compassion, through practice of, like I told my clients okay, you can practice self-compassion. How about we start with this? How about you be curious to have understanding? Why do you behave the way you do? Can you just try with? Let's try to understand this. Let's be curious about it. Like no judgment, let's start with understanding. Then we can step up from understanding. You know to, maybe we can step up to having an empathy and then having forgiveness and then having kindness and then having compassion and then love.

Speaker 2:

Right, and making your heart for people is becoming self-aware. Yes, you know, awareness is huge.

Speaker 1:

Awareness. I always tell awareness is the key to your healing, right? And this is why, like in my work because you know, working as a therapist and doing CB cognitive behavioral therapy I found limiting in how far I can bring people and I am interested in results. I am interested in to empower you Like I'm not interested to keep you for a long period of time in my life. You know I tell my clients I want you to fire me and when you fire me, I know I did my job and that's my happiest day in the world.

Speaker 1:

When you tell me nearby, I don't need you anymore, like I think I got it, I can, I can now continue on on my own, like that's my reward, ultimate reward, right, so that's the best reward. That is the best reward. I mean I'm in it for that. You know, of course I need money to survive, to live Like I'm really in it. You know I'm in it because I was there and and I want to empower others to rise into their power, to rise into love, because the world needs people loving themselves.

Speaker 2:

You do. It's like you were saying something. I want to read it to you Because I like what it said. It was a guided journey of inner witnessing and experience self as multi dimensional awareness. But you wrote something about how, in order for us to create a healthier society, a healthier world, we have to work on self healing first, meaning we have to work on our own inner self first in order to create a world full of joy, full of happiness, full of love, free of hatred, free of fear, understanding that we all are different and our unique ways, and accepting us for who we are. And it all comes from working on ourselves first.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and that you know it's a ripple effect. So you know, my teacher used to say let your own candle and you will light thousands of them. One candle can light millions of candles, right? So you know, when you restore harmony within yourself, when you restore love for yourself and you live from that place of love for self and compassion, it's a journey. It's a journey, life is going to show up and it's you know, and it's life is going to challenge you because that's how it is life. Right, but if your foundation is self love and self compassion, that's the foundation that you're walking on. You're walking in with trust, with confidence, with openness, with gentleness, with compassion, with understanding and forgiveness, you'll automatically lend that. You just be that person. People can feel that, like you said, people can feel your energy right. People can feel that and just by standing next to you, healing can occur.

Speaker 1:

Because we already know, science already knows that if a person with a dysregulated central nervous system stands in the presence of a person that is absolutely self regulated, their central nervous system starts to come down within 20 seconds. Right, that's the power. We already know that babies develop ability to self regulate through their parents. So if parent stays calm their central nervous system is self regulated. Calm, then the baby develops that ability through a parent. The power of proximity this is what we're talking about. Power of proximity, who you surround yourself with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you become the people you surround yourself with.

Speaker 1:

Right, because there's exchange of energy and our central nervous systems are constantly looking. Can I be safe with you? Oh, can I be safe with you? Oh, you can be safe with me?

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, I know it's constantly asking that question.

Speaker 1:

It is constantly. Yes, it is, and I love it.

Speaker 2:

I love it and I listen to it now, you know, and I love it, it's my intuition, like it's full, it's on overload now, because now it's like Vivian's listening, now she's listening to me.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and it's beautiful when two central nervous systems meet together and they're like you're my friend and I'm your friend, and then hearts open right, and then there's this instant connection and you can feel like, oh, like I can be completely new in front of you and I feel totally safe and I can share myself with you and it feels like we've been friends for thousands of years. Yes, because we are coming from a place of heart.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's so true. It's like imagine two little kids, right? They meet for the first time and they've never known each other, they've never seen each other. And if you sit at a park, if you sit at a playground, when you and you really observe this little kids, how many times have you not just seen them run up to another little kid that they have no idea who it is, and just Embrace them, give them a huge hug. So they've known each other forever, right? What happened to that? That is such a beautiful thing to have and I love Watching children because if only we don't forget. We haven't forgotten that.

Speaker 2:

You know, and, as you say, it's like just things get planted in us and as we're growing up and that's what makes us lose that. But that's kind of like this connection that you're talking about. Or when you meet somebody you already know oh yes, they're safe, they're safe, they're safe. It's kind of like that image of those two kids running up to each other and just giving themself a big hug. It's like, oh, you've been there all my life?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, and that's what kids have. Because, you know, the thing is like with kids, with the within first five years or six years of their life, they live. They're basically operating from right part of the brain, brain, responsible for intuition, creativity, imagination, coordination of your body. It's a non verbal part of yourself, right, that it's domineering that first five, six years of your life. Then, when you start to hit seven, then the left part of the brain starts to kick in and start to develop Logic and reason. So you can see the difference between, like, a five-year trial and a seven-year trial, right, you can see how the, the logic and reasoning slowly starts to take place, you know. But you know, children really, first five, six years are a total intuitive, emotional feeling beings and they are completely guided by the intuition.

Speaker 1:

And the worst thing that we do as adults we slap that. We, like, you know they do something intuitively and we say, no, you know, or you know, because of our own fear, we interrupted, right. So you know, we interrupt the process of, like, nurturing that relationship with their intuition and they the instinct, right, we want them to behave a certain way, you know, act a certain way, so that we wouldn't look like a terrible parents. You know, because we wrapped around our own fear, how we going to look like what the people are gonna say. What kind of mother or father am I?

Speaker 2:

you know I'm using themselves because they start conforming to what you told them. You think it's the right way to behave, it's the white right way to be, it's the right things to do that you don't let them Be who they want to be and, little by little, use. It's not intentional as parents that we do this, no, an intentional thing. So it's really important for parents to understand this. It's just like it's something that we now have to be a little bit more cautious about when we do certain things, because we don't want to take that spirit away, we don't want to take that person away. You know, and I think it's so important that now you know, there's a lot of things I would have done so differently, but I can't go back in time. So what I do, I'm doing everything now and it's not too late.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's not too late, and that's the thing. People think it's too late. No, it's not too late, it's never too late.

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely. Because you know, the brain has a neuroplasticity number one, which means which allows us to heal and grow and expand at any point. But it also has the so called, what we call this mirror neuron, and, and so when your child sees you doing new things or behaving in your way or speaking in the new way, after some time is going to start rub off and it's gonna be like, oh Okay, maybe I can, I could be that way. You know, I don't know if you. I certainly have experience, like I remember when I went to I went to.

Speaker 1:

Thailand and I went to this ashram and to stay there to practice yoga, and I saw people living there for six months, like Not having a conventional life, you know just, and I thought to myself that is very interesting. How can I do that? Like my, my mirror neuron was getting like going. You know, it's like how can I? I would like to have, I would like to take six months and and just getting immersed in in, you know, tantra and Study and yoga and like, have that. Give myself that present before I turn 60 or 70 years old.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to take sabbatical and then I want to work, then I want to take sabbatical now, when I'm young, you know, and but it was like I'm being exposed to new ways of being and my brain started to like work in a different way. Right, you know, and and and that's the thing it's like, even like you know, seeing people in the way they're using their language. You know, it's like I recently became friends with a guy who who asked for permission To give me a call. Nobody has ever asked me for permission to give me a call. We will be texting Each other. And then he says, may I call you now? Like, are you available right now? Doesn't assume that I'm available because I'm texting.

Speaker 1:

I was like, oh Wow, so now I start to do the same thing and I'm like are you available to talk right now, or are you gonna be available to talk like asking? You know, like asking, even though we texting each other Power, proximity, right. It's kind of like being exposed to something, a new way of being. You know that you were not exposed before because, you know, in my family I come from the place where there's no boundaries. It's like, yeah, you know. It's like there's no asking of a permission. You know there's. You know they're just a sub channel, you know.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, I know our family dynamics is so like. I mean, I love my family. You know my upbringing, the person who caused the most damage is not part of our life anymore. So I love my mom and I love how my mom raised us. And a lot of people are like how are you, your brother and your sister so close? Don't you guys argue? And I was like, of course we argue like that. I would like. How would you not think that I mean, but our arguments is not like we bicker and fight and we'll talk to each other for months. We just have a difference of opinion sometimes and we just like you know that's how it it is.

Speaker 2:

But we love each other so much because my mom instilled so much love into us that we don't know anything else and we, you know, even through the pain or whatever that we've been through, because my mom has showed me what it is For her to be so strong and have gone through her trauma and everything that she's going through and she loves so much. I'm just like but why? Why don't I have the ability to love the way my mom loves? And she's gone through stuff too, and then that shows me.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, so I give my children the same love my mom gave me, and so I know people. Some people are like that's not normal and I was like, oh, I don't know anything else other than this, so I don't know it is. And I'm just like, why would you not want to know what the feeling of love is? And I have noticed before that even a touch, the gentle touch on somebody that has never felt touched before, it's like they're like I'm so sorry, like I didn't mean anything by it, but it's because they haven't been raised with that kind of affection, that touch, that they don't know how to see that and so, yeah, so when you were talking about your family and our families have a lot to do with who we are, you know.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. You know. They informed us a lot about on our world. My teacher used to say your first teacher is your mother, your second teacher is your father. I like that, but make sense, because you know you live in your mother's womb for nine months and you're experiencing everything that she does. You listen to everything that she says. It's not part of your explicit memories, it's part of your implicit memories. It's in your DNA, it's in your body. Yeah, you know. But the moment you're conceived in your mother's body, you begin to learn from your mother.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I Never thought of it that way. You know that's true for feeling her feelings. We are completely connected. I mean we literally are connected as one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah you are that. That's when, yeah, that's when you in the state of oneness with your mother, and your mother being the universe. You in the womb of the universe and your mother is your universe. Wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, that's so beautiful that I mean that's so beautiful In your study that you've done when I love everything about it. You were talking about six senses and I know they're probably very, very like you know Deep, so I don't know if you wanted to talk about some. On how creating our unconscious, you know it's important to go into our subconscious mind to understand how we Unconsciously make these decisions, in order to become into a more inner wellness of ourselves.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, so Understanding that the six senses is really, really important, because we utilize only five, but you know we don't utilize the six. The sixth sense is intuition. The five senses that we are governed by is our sight, our hearing, our smell, our taste and our touch. And this is through these centers that our body and our brain and Mind and awareness receives information from the world right and takes in everything and decides the information that comes from the world through our senses is the brain Interpreted, the mind interprets, it sends the information back to the brain, brain back to the body, and through the senses, we respond right. And so you know, understanding that you can use your senses to ground yourself, to connect with yourself, to Center yourself.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, so give a little example with some people so hard for them to understand.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I understand my senses, but Sure, for example, let's use a child. Child regulates itself through senses, right. So it's using the hearing to hear mother's voice. Your voice can be soft and gentle and and when he's soft and gentle he hears it. In your central nervous, the child's internal nervous system comes down. Then you take the child and you wrap yourself, you wrap the child around. Your child feels the warmth, the touch of the mother that has lived in for nine months. But then he smells the mother, knows the mother's scent and it is through that that the central nervous system starts to regulate itself. So one of my other teachers, you know, he tells his students who have children in the first year and a half to three years to massage their children daily Because touch is so important for a child to receive enough touch, enough contact To develop a healthy sense of self Right.

Speaker 1:

So, like you know, this is when my work, that I developed SRE work, which is a self relational experience, work. I, I use aroma therapy, I use essential oils, I use healing touch, you know I will. You know, touch the client, I will place my hand somewhere. I will sometimes just gently holding their hand is enough when they're moving through the rough waters and re experiencing all the emotions. You know. You know receiving compassionate touch, receiving motherly touch. I have held clients in my arms and just caressing their head while they're crying. You know it's the very thing they didn't receive when they were children and you can get to recreate that Right. So you use your senses to ground yourself. You can use the sense to calm yourself down. You can ask for hug. Allow somebody to hold you and hug you that you feel safe with. You know to help you regulate music, the sound of the music.

Speaker 1:

You know, has a huge part on your central nervous system. What kind of music are you listening? You know, are you listening calming and soothing music? Are you listening like depressing music? That's kind of you know a huge part, right. What do you see in front of you, like? What is it in front of you when you look at it with your eyes? Do you have soothing colors? Like for me in my home, when I made this place, you know and I made a place not just for me but for people to come and heal you know colors.

Speaker 1:

I'm very specific with colors and I want colors that are warm and inviting and that makes you feel relaxed. So, looking at the colors, like I tell people when it comes to touch, like in the morning, when you open up your closet, look and see what color are you do you get drawn to and then feel the fabric. What kind of fabric you want on your skin? Right, because that plays a huge part on how you feel throughout the day. Like, do you? Is it soft? Do you want a cotton? Do you want like? What do you want? Like, because the clothes is touching your skin. You're dressing with intention, right, dressing with the intention and with awareness that what I'm putting on today. I'm putting on because it feels cozy and comfortable, and that's what I want to experience today. Oh, maybe I want to experience being sexy, so I want something different, right? What feeling do I want to induce in myself? Because you use your, your five centers to induce the states that you want to be in.

Speaker 2:

I love that I actually use some of those, just as my practice as being the nurse, right? I mean there's times where I have to ask my patient is it okay if I give you a hug, because I feel in my body that they need a hug, but I want to protect their space and I've never been told no and they just cry and I just hold them there and they feel safe in a place that's vulnerable. Yeah, and so that's my happiness. My happy place is just giving them that moment to themselves to feel their emotions, to feel their cells and to create a more positive place in their mind and their body. That's the only thing I could control at that moment, right? So I love that. I mean, now, when I get dressed, I'm going to think of wait, what mood am I in?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, absolutely. And the thing is, if you wake up being in the crappy mood, like, you know, like what do I? What do I want to wear today? Like, maybe I feel crappy and I want to be really cozy and warm because I want to comfort myself today, you know, or maybe I'm feeling crappy but if I put in this sexy skirt and, you know, put some makeup on and I put these stockings, then maybe I'll start to feel this way.

Speaker 1:

The thing is, what we need to realize is that we are constantly being influenced throughout senses and it's not a conscious thing Because we take it for granted. One of my teachers would say it's like your sixth senses is like your horse. So who is who is you know? Who is guiding the horse? Is got horse guiding you or you guiding the horse? So take the rain and guide your horse, which is your senses. You guide your senses of what you want to experience and what you want to feel and where you want to go and what you want to see.

Speaker 1:

You know, which is why like with you know, current social media and stuff like that it's like I limit myself to like maybe five minutes a day because I do not want to bombard my senses with a lot of stuff, you know, and I, I have a bubble around me. I don't watch news because news is so horrendous and there's it's, it's fear mongering, and it's not neutral and it's bias, and I'm like, nope, I am not. No, no, my eyes are not going to see that. Nope, I choose to stay ignorant when it comes to current events. People tell me I get news through people, but I'm like, I choose. I choose just to be in my world, working on myself, protecting my senses, you know, and contributing in the way that, on a collective level, by taking care of myself, and that's what people don't realize. If we just worked on loving and healing ourselves, you're already immediately sending the ripple effect into collective consciousness.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, you're so right in every way. It's funny because I tell people the same thing. They're like Do you watch the news? I'm like you know? They're like, why? I'm like, don't you know what's going on? I'm like no, I'll find out what's going on.

Speaker 2:

Somebody will tell me I'm like but the news, it controls people by fear, and I don't want to live in a state where I'm constantly in fear and watching over my back. It's just not the way I want to live. And so when I wake up in the morning, I do not turn on the news, because studies have shown that if you turn on the news as soon as you wake up, that is the kind of day that you're going to have, which is not a positive day, and I do not want to be instilled by that. So I have made it a choice also not to watch the news, and because I know that I'm going to get it and sometimes ignorance is bliss, you know, because you're going to end up finding out, and so it's just.

Speaker 2:

You know there's not enough sadness out there. I know there's sadness out there. I know there's people doing things that are hurting other people. I'm not ignorant to that. I just choose to not want to see it, it doesn't mean that I'm choosing not to take action and talking about it sometimes. No, I'm not saying that I'm not choosing to ignore it, that it's happening either. I'm just making a choice of when I choose to see it or not see it, because it's just it's enough. You know we've gone through so much. I wanted you to leave the listeners, which is something empowering that you feel it's like. You know what. This is something you need to go through. I know the healing journey and transformational journey is hard for people to start, but once you start I know, once I started, how it fulfilled my life. I think people need to hear how people who have started lived their lives now and so much fulfillment. So I would like to know from you what is the most empowering thing that you have gone through through your journey.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's a good question you mean to put you on the spot there.

Speaker 2:

No, it's okay.

Speaker 1:

It's just a lot. You know, I was talking to my friend the other day and I was like about my life. You know, I was like I didn't realize I have a rich history right and I have experienced a lot. I think the most empowering thing that I've learned is to step out of the victimhood mode and to step in into radical self-accountability and to accept that I am making choices all the time. The question is, am I making conscious, mindful choices or unconscious?

Speaker 1:

The other thing is accepting and realizing that I am a student in the school of my own intuition and I am the master at the same time Wow and that my intuition is my guru, is my inner teacher that guides me from the light, from the darkness to the light, and that I can always, always trust my intuition.

Speaker 1:

And the other empowering thing is to remember that mind is limited. Mind doesn't know but it pretends to know. It pretends to know everything, but it knows it doesn't know everything, so it plays a game with itself, but intuition knows, instinct knows what it needs to know. And my greatest partners are intuition and instinct working together, supporting my journey. And I think, when I realized that, I felt such a peace in me knowing that I got my two best friends that I can lean on and trust. And I can navigate. And as long as I listen to my instinct intuition I will not be guided in the wrong direction, no matter what is happening, even if I enter the storm, the greatest storm of all, as long as I'm walking with my intuition and instinct, I will move through that storm gracefully.

Speaker 2:

That is so beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Right, and the other part is self-love. I cannot, cannot emphasize enough choosing to love yourself, choosing to be compassionate with yourself, choosing to be kind to yourself with all aspects of yourself.

Speaker 1:

Not choosing to love yourself when you are quote, unquote perfect or when you do the right thing or when you're in your graceful state or, you know, choosing to love yourself as you are in your totality, choosing to love and have compassion for vulnerable parts of yourself that never experience love and compassion. Instead, they were shunned, rejected, demeaned, pushed aside, told that they were not okay. And this is really important. It's like a toolbox, you know. It's like you know we have. My teachers would say you have everything within you. And at first I was like what are you talking about? I don't know. I don't understand what you're talking about. It's like everything is within you and I was like, okay, where do I dig when?

Speaker 2:

do I run?

Speaker 1:

You know, but yeah, we do, we do. Everything is within us. Problem is is that this kind of conversations are not held enough. People are not introduced. People introduced to follow prescribed ways.

Speaker 1:

And my teacher was never about following prescribed names and he would always say I am not part of any isms. So you know, my family used to think that I'm a Buddhist. I never said I'm a Buddhist. Some people think I'm a Hindu. I never said I was Hindu. Some people think I'm Christian and I never said I'm Christian. Because you know that's not my identity and you know my identity is divine identity. Divine identity doesn't belong to any particular sect or religion. My identity is love. I am love and love is the only religion I recognize, right, yes, so you know, for me, like you know the work that I'm coming out and also the podcast that I want to do on self-love, it is my mission to really spread the word and that's why I want to do the podcast, you know, wanting Child with Mirabai, because it's so important to recognize in the importance of loving self and having compassion for self, and it's not a selfish act, it's a selfless act.

Speaker 2:

Correct, and for a long time I was. I felt like if I was selfless, it was something that was wrong with me, right? But then now I'm just like no, it's okay to put myself first now.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I'm not putting myself first and I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm not. It doesn't mean I'm not humble, because I'm truly humble, right, I have a lot of gratitude. It just simply means that if something doesn't resonate with me, if something is not meant for me, I'm okay with saying no, but before I wasn't okay with saying no. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with saying no and standing your ground and believing in yourself. And once you start loving yourself, truly loving yourself, and welcoming yourself completely with everything that you have and not looking at your troubles as shame or your darkness as negativity and just seeing everything as powerful, it changes the whole perspective on how you saw yourself. Because now I appreciate who I am with everything. I don't want to take anything back, I don't want to change anything in my life. Everything happened to me for a reason, regardless of how hard the times were. I appreciate everything because that is who I am now. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and that little girl inside of you took a lot of courage and bravery for her to move through all of that and for you to become the woman that you are, which is absolutely beautiful compassionate, giving, caring woman. You did not allow trauma to take that away from you. The essence of you, which is your love, which is who you are, which makes you alive or makes you vibrant, what connects you to the God, what connects you to everything and everyone, right yeah?

Speaker 2:

it's not one thing that we should change about ourselves. We should love ourselves completely, absolutely. So beautiful and I thank you so much. I can't wait for when this comes out and your study is like you've worked so hard eight years that you've been working on this 14 years of your journey and you're going to be amazing.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to put everything on my podcast in regards to your podcast, because I think people need to go and follow you as well, go and support you as well, because you're going to bring so much light into their lives. Your study is just. I can't even tell you how amazing it is to know. People need to know what self-compassion is, what forgiveness is, the power behind awareness, self-reflection, when understanding our intuition and respecting our intuition and not ignoring it. When you're going to bring all that to them and I'm so excited.

Speaker 2:

So, yes, this is just the beginning.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is so much greatness and so yes, yes, yes, yes, thank you, Thank you for all your support, and people are already gaining so much from you doing your work and helping and supporting all of us. It's really important and I thank you for inviting me and loving me and supporting me, and you're already giving. You're a great giver.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

And you know what, Aside of being a great giver, I've learned to be able to receive, and so you've been giving back to me too, and so I truly, truly appreciate that, because for a long time I was always just a giver and I never learned how to receive goodness from people, and so I am so appreciative of you too.

Speaker 1:

No, thank you. Thank you, it means a lot to me.

Speaker 2:

You're beautiful To me, of course, and I'm always sending you my love. Okay, thank you for taking your time and connecting with me on this beautiful journey of life. Please subscribe and review, and don't forget to follow so you don't miss out on any of these amazing and empowering episodes. Always remember you matter. If nobody has told you today, I am here to tell you that you are enough, you are worthy and you are deserving of the best. Every day that you wake up, I want you to take one moment and just look at yourself in the mirror and know that the person staring back at you is so proud of you and loves you beyond measures. You are a true warrior.