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We're not stopping there. We're zooming in on Erika Jayne's legal and financial problems, the veracity of her claims about multiple robberies, and a seemingly carefree shopping trip with a bag full of cash. We'll also dip our toes into Sutton's love life, her ballet past, and applaud Crystal's brother for his pop-star potential. From a surprise visit by Aaron to our critique of Sutton's confessional outfit, there's no shortage of drama and laughter.
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Get ready for a wild ride through the lives of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and Salt Lake City. Put on your designer sunglasses as we scrutinize the highs and lows of their glamorous yet scandalous world. We're pulling back the curtain on Erica's murky involvement in her husband's legal troubles, the staged scenes, and the ladies' hair transformations. Not forgetting Dorit's striking new hair color and fashion statements, we'll also touch on Kyle's potential orchestration of on-screen conversations about her marriage.
We're not stopping there. We're zooming in on Erika Jayne's legal and financial problems, the veracity of her claims about multiple robberies, and a seemingly carefree shopping trip with a bag full of cash. We'll also dip our toes into Sutton's love life, her ballet past, and applaud Crystal's brother for his pop-star potential. From a surprise visit by Aaron to our critique of Sutton's confessional outfit, there's no shortage of drama and laughter.
Gear up for a heart-wrenching journey through Real Housewives of Potomac's Monique's family dynamics, marked by generational trauma and strained relationships. We're dissecting the emotional dinner scene with her mother, their online feuds, and the shockwaves these have sent through her family. Tough as it is, we're cheering Monique on as she chooses a different path from her co-star Jen Shaw. So, plug in your headphones, buckle up, and join us on this emotional rollercoaster ride through two of our favorite reality TV franchises.
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Hey, I'm a mirror, I didn't know you were here. But hello, um, yeah, happy Friday. This is you starting one again. We are back. We started one. We're going to do housewives of Salt Lake. We're doing your housewives of Beverly Hills. I'm going to do Mrs no, not for the miss of the Mr Kyle, because that's rude. I'm going to do old Kyle, new Kyle. Right, he said we on. And Salt Lake. I still want to talk about Monica and her mom, and and Whitney and Mary. Hey, man, you're. Who else is there? Guys? I see somebody here, I see people here, but, um, all right, so this is you starting on.
Speaker 1:If you're listening on the podcast side, on Spotify, apple and all that, please follow five star rating as well, please, and do a nice review. And if you don't like me and you do listen to a five star rating, like I always say, if you have a like constructive criticism, you can put it in the review. I think, yes, everyone, I take criticism lately. I'm very good with it, hi, mamir. Well, thank you guys for being here. So I'll drop the call link right now, just in case even know nobody else wants to call me Anybody. That's here, guys, you can call me that and we'll discuss.
Speaker 1:But I didn't do any polls this week because I just literally watched Beverly Hills and I just I think that we all agree that, um, that was an insult, oops, that I just cursed, sorry, demonetized, anyway, no guys, I cannot believe I'm literally gonna get one of it. Like I just need to bring up two things really fast. Freaking Maricio's mom like literally with Kyle, I was freaking shocked. Do you guys think that scene was set up or not? Do you think that Kyle has these people asking her about her marriage in front of these cameras? Or do you think these people are really fucking crazy, or like really rude, or like I don't know? Like I don't get it, like I'm, hey, reality counter. So I'm so glad you made it here too. I see we have a crowd. I'm excited, so all right. Well, yeah, I like all right.
Speaker 1:First of all, rate the episode. I want to know what you guys rate. We're gonna start with Beverly Hills. Okay, rate the episode. I'm literally gonna give it like a freaking five Because I feel like we are getting freaking. We're like where are we getting? Where are we going? What are we doing? Maybe I should have my notes and figure it out. So, erica, okay, let's start with Erica. Erica, okay, this is just me. Now, this is not me. Actually, this is, I'm gonna say, alleged. I should probably put the banner up. I already, guys, told you Erica is not, she's not a good person. Okay, she is still hanging up with Tom senior. Do you guys know who Tom senior is? Right, this is not a legend. You guys can go pay for Dana. Well, please pay Tron if you want an actual full story. Hey, corey, I'll let you up. Okay, I'm calling Good Brandy because I knew Erica. Erica, erica, what do you think, corey, about her? Do you, did you buy her thing with Dorit or no?
Speaker 2:Obviously like yeah that was so funny and staged.
Speaker 1:Do you think that she? Do you think Kyle's staging people asking her about her marriage? Of course, yeah, I wasn't sure I'm like, but I was like, is Maricia's mom really that rude she is?
Speaker 2:She is and her parents. His parents are the I don't know. They're divorced, but yet they hang out a lot. They're divorced. They've been divorced for over a decade.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I somebody just came up that I don't, I don't mention, I don't recognize. You're freaking me out. All right, hold on Dragon. Hey, hey, how are you?
Speaker 3:I'm good.
Speaker 1:I asked that I saw you. I shall receive, so tell me, what do you think about Erica?
Speaker 3:Oh, that was a piece of work. That's like Marica's mother Turn it off for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel bad. Sorry, she got this narcissistic sociopathic complex going.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, Absolutely. I just I feel like these scenes are very staged.
Speaker 3:These kinds of things right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. But so we found out the fourth robbery. Okay, with three, did you hear? Did you now are you buying that, this fourth robbery? That she had $10,000 in her pocketbook and it just I'm buying that it happened, I'm not buying it.
Speaker 3:No one in the right mind walks home with $4,000 in their pocket. I'm sorry 10.
Speaker 2:And what bank allows you to take out $10,000?
Speaker 3:None that I know.
Speaker 1:I think that I like Lauren. What do you think about Dorit's hair, though? Do you think her dark hair looks good on her? I like it.
Speaker 3:It looks just like a weave. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:First day done aloud.
Speaker 1:Oops, you did oh man, you have a smack button over here now.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I wish it looks realer than her boob job with her cave dim boobs a la Tori spelling.
Speaker 1:I yeah, that confessional with her Chanel stuff, that I'm like three, it looks so hot to me, she looks so hot, and then she does that confessional with the Chanel stuff and I'm like that killed it for me, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Chanel right now is the only designer that's really dealing with her, because she wears a lot of Chanel lately. Yeah, yeah. And they've been really trying to find their foothold in fashion, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know, and for her to be a stylist and all now have we all seen Pretty Woman Brendan Courtney?
Speaker 3:Maybe in a while.
Speaker 2:I watched it last month, Brendan.
Speaker 1:Do you think that he was like? Do you think PK's mind was like where do you like? Do you think he was doing? I don't know, what do you think about it? I'm speaking.
Speaker 2:He was like he was low key shading her. Yeah, he was low key shading her. And Kyle hit it on the nose. Yeah, she was laughing the whole time eating that fruit. Okay, now what about?
Speaker 1:what about? What would she say? Kyle, okay, this is what Kyle laughing. So when Kyle it brings her there and she's in the car with her and Kyle's like acting, all you know, kyle's acting stupid. Oh, you're doing the line, I'm ready.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know if it bothers anybody else, maybe it's just me that gets on my nerves. But when she got there and she was to read, was clearly getting upset and I know this is the thing I get, like that I'll get very like, tell me what's going on with them. And she starts laughing, kyle starts laughing at her and, freak, it's more upset and I'm like I understand, like that was getting on my nerves. I'm like Kyle, what is so funny? It was weird, like why are you laughing? And you're like I don't know she's like, she's like laughing at it and you seem to read having, like you know, a panic attack. I and I'm I understand. I don't really believe her PTSD, but I understand. In the moment she had no idea what was going on and her friend, who is okay, she's eating her and the confessional is going, brisa would never know. There's obviously shit going on between them, right? Mm? Hmm, he came out saying all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2:He is. I was like oh he's shady little puff ball.
Speaker 1:There's no way they're friends. There's no. And when Kyle and Dorita are in that car having that conversation, that moment where she kissed, when Dorita kissed Kyle Maricio is back. I know Kyle's had to have seen that. Would you not bring that up? Why are we talking about that? Why aren't they?
Speaker 2:talking. When he, when he, when Maricio took her braid and looked at it salatiously, I'm like what has he done with that braid? I know it's just crazy and and I don't know. I find okay those two are separated Dorita and PK and Kyle and Maricio. That's because they found out they were sleeping with each other, allegedly.
Speaker 1:I know, but he's also okay. Now Kyle also this is allegedly, but not really, because I could get the receipts, but I, I want. I don't want to ruin somebody's money like paywall, but that that elsa Jean girl last year you know Kyle says. Now this is another thing. Kyle says she's like I wanted space or I wanted this, and he's too busy with work. Remember how she wasn't allowed to film his new show with him. Because of that, bren, I think she's acting out because of that and that's why she's going. I'm doing what I want now. I'm doing what I want.
Speaker 2:I love, I won't let her be on that other show, but still, that's a logical conclusion. I've never seen that other show, though.
Speaker 1:I, apparently it's real successful, right. But then you have PK coming in and going, but PK is mad because Maricio basically like left and they were supposed to do this together. They have competing shows and you know, not for nothing, but like they both were away filming. Pk was away filming, maricio is away filming. So do I think that? Do I think that Jareet really wants to leave? I don't really think so.
Speaker 1:I think something bad happened. I think that she, like you said, I think there was a little. You know this right and I have a relationship, so it was just this which makes things even worse. Because then you just don't, you just don't respect your friend, you don't read, or if you're going to have a situation where you're allowed to cheat like I think Maricio was allowed to cheat as long as it wasn't in Kyle's face I'm just going to f anybody, like I'm going to have a friend, screw it, I'll smooch Kyle. Then I'm going to say how Erica's got his other housewife I would sleep with, like, and then I'll let you know I'm going to laugh at Jack's getting. You know, when Erica screamed at Jack's, cursed at Jack's, last season.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm going to disappoint it.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said before, I wanted to be a multi-million dollar real estate agent, selling mansions and stuff. That was my goal when.
Speaker 3:Brandon was four and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you were two and a half. I got my. I studied to get my real estate license from called Well Banker right. So that was my goal. That was my goal. My real estate instructor and Maricio were my heroes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because she was a black woman who made it to that level in Maryland and there's not a lot of women period selling estates, let alone women of color. And I was beyond floored when I found out that Maricio was Kyle's husband, because I thought, because I also watched I religiously, I watched this thing. Byron Allen has this TV show. Byron Allen has called Great Home Great Home's Beautiful Homes in Great Estates. Okay, I would see Maricio. That's where I would see Jade Jade from Coldwell Banker I can't think of her last name right now. She's an older woman who's killing it selling estates and her daughter is now her business partner. And that's where I first saw Maricio and I followed my father, his father's a wonderful agent and developer, maricio's father.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that, yes.
Speaker 1:After he met the Hilton's.
Speaker 2:I think his father was a developer before then, so why would he even need? He was trying to. I think he was trying to get a foothold because you know, they're not, they're like Turkish or something. They're not really Mexican, they are something. Right, yeah, or yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, they're like Turkish and German, or something like that. Yeah, so that was the most their family fled the Holocaust and wound up in Mexico. That's how he was born, in Mexico. So they're not. So they're not ethnic, the Mexican.
Speaker 3:Hmm. So so they have the more Hmm they have the more people, no, they're not.
Speaker 2:No, babe, they're not of more descent. What I'm saying is his mother mentioned something about them being Turkish and German, Because when they went to Germany with Erica Kyle mentioned something about it.
Speaker 1:Right, you're right.
Speaker 2:I remember that and I remember there was a print a minor prince that his mother was trying to hook up. What's her face? That was married to grandma Camille with oh oh, oh oh yes, and he, he was a minor German prince and he was related to Maurizio and them, oh, to his mother. Now Maurizio's father could be half Mexican. I'm not sure. It's a little. It's a little murky.
Speaker 2:You know it's a little murky, but yeah, maurizio was the king. As far as I was concerned, he was the king. He was up and coming and that's all I saw on like real estate shows was Wow. And then I found out he was married to Kyle and I was like, oh, that's her husband, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, see, now go ahead, john. If I had rent that route, I would have been a rich man by now.
Speaker 1:Listen, the curse of 2008,. Cory, what would you do? Like you're probably in a business around then, right?
Speaker 2:I had stopped then because I knew it at Brendan was diagnosed with autism. So then I was like I don't have the time to devote to it because I have to make sure he gets services and things he needs. So I had to take another route. I mean, that's what I probably would have been top in Maryland.
Speaker 1:It was pretty you probably would have and honestly, like if you could have gotten in 2008, when they're living in, everything crashed like whoever made it after that would is still there. You know, like because I did mortgages, it took me out. You know you go from closing 80 year, I mean eight a month, the 80 year. You know the walls change and everything. So I don't know Like with. So I've said this before about Erica. Now I don't know why they're not talking about it yet, but Tom senior, tom junior, her son's dad is a big in Vegas and she has been with him the allegedly I'm gonna have to say allegedly here funneling money from Tom's already through him for Erica's right.
Speaker 2:Because no because no one's going to it that normally that would hurt for the legal stuff too.
Speaker 1:I think this goes back way to back then, because why would you leave this 85 year old man at the bottom of a cliff or not tell the doctors he was unconscious, unless you wanted to analyze him Exactly? He's the middleman, he's the only one that can tell on Tom senior and about what the three of them did right Exactly. He don't got the old man, he's pooping himself. He's got nothing to lose, you know. So, okay, like they're like well, who cares? He's like you know he's, he was the crook, you know. You know, whatever we did right. That's how I feel. And also, if you're, when you have a robbery, you don't call your son, the cop that's not in that town, to come off duty to come get the robber Again, like what the heck is that? And nobody's going. Erica or the real police are, you know, like how come? Nobody's questioning her about this?
Speaker 1:It's just I don't know why the authorities, maybe they're, maybe they're waiting, oh, my brother and all, maybe they're waiting for, like, maybe they're waiting for, like, the bankruptcy stuff to be over and like all that you know any meme? Yeah, my mirror, I did, and I don't know what, how I feel about this. We talked about three days, like 10. She goes to the bank to get 10,000. But this is after she's been robbed three times and she's got such bad. Why? Listen, you knew you got robbed four times. I'm sorry, I just find that very. I think the odds of that are probably in the billions, right, mm? Hmm, obviously setup, because that's not that happening, or not? It's very, very like four times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I think that the the the one where she's shopping and they take her purse. I'm sorry, I don't care who you are, what woman is not paying attention to her purse while she's shopping with that much money? With $10 in my purse, I'm not lit.
Speaker 1:If I put my purse in the shopping cart, I say brand Please watch this, or you like, wrap my arm in the thing and how you're carrying. Wrap my arm in it, exactly.
Speaker 2:And then, if I have to use my arm, I'm like, don't walk away from this, and I don't I just I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think where her angle would be to lie about it, except for sympathy. But she said that they saw these people following her and I'm like man, could she have set somebody up to follow her, to do that Like I don't know?
Speaker 2:I don't know about that because there's no assurance. True, true, you know, I just think she's. I think she's just exaggerating and making this up, because I don't what, what person, I don't care what neighborhood you're in, I don't care what store you're in, who leaves $10,000 in cash in your purse, I know.
Speaker 1:At Christmas time.
Speaker 3:Nobody, I know.
Speaker 2:At Christmas time, I don't need to keep my money in my purse.
Speaker 1:Like I, really like, I'm liking to read for going after Erica, yes, but did she have to culture appropriate to do it though?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:I mean really.
Speaker 1:No, no, they could have had that kind of like they did at their little picnic, or what did they do?
Speaker 2:A little picnic, a catered picnic that no one eats, anything they never eat.
Speaker 3:That's still because this is the heck out of me.
Speaker 2:I can tell you this Cy would not last in Beverly Hills. She's like where's the food, Where's?
Speaker 3:the food, yeah, and I don't think.
Speaker 1:I know All right. So what do you think about Sutton and her dating situation? Sutton's never got to get a man. She's odd, right? She's an odd dog. Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:Sutton is one of those annoying people in her older age. She probably wasn't that annoying when she was a ballet dancer. But ballet dancer. Yeah, I have to. She has ballet dancer feet, so yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought the kitty cat sweater was cute. That was a little too bad.
Speaker 2:The whole neuropathy thing I don't know that was a little bit TMI. He was like, oh, I guess I'm going to be getting anything from her.
Speaker 1:And the fact that she makes or not makes, the fact that she heard her. I can't even say it because it's so amazing. I think she's got 300 grand a month for the rest of her life. I know I was like you want to get married again. I wouldn't, oh, I wouldn't, but I mean a guy. You're some shock that a guy has not you know how many times do we see? That a way than that, that we assume that these men are with her for their money, or you know?
Speaker 2:I would be the modern version of Lance Devereux. I would have lovers, honey, I would have lovers. I love Lance Devereux, me too. Hey, pino, you got to know him. No, he's never seen Golden Girls. You have to show him Golden Girls.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 2:I am. I'm going to have to show him Golden Girls. I'm going to have to strap him down so he can watch it.
Speaker 1:I am literally obsessed.
Speaker 3:I'll see it.
Speaker 1:I'm obsessed with Crystal's brother. Is that where he's cute? He is a cutie. Okay, and I'm all for this pop star, k-pop guy.
Speaker 3:Did you?
Speaker 1:almost got married and didn't.
Speaker 3:Rampop.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what they call it. They call it K-pop.
Speaker 1:K-pop. Yeah, I mean I should look it up, like we should probably look it up and see.
Speaker 2:I think it's all considered K-pop, because I think it's like all under the same umbrella, because I've seen on Bling Empire the girl who had to talk her man into marrying her after having two kids out of wedlock was a Japanese K-pop person. Yeah, I'm trying to think of her name right now I can't think of her name but her parents had like a lot of money anyway and her parents didn't want her saying and all of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love Bling Empire. That's another story.
Speaker 1:I love that. Bts, the K-pop band BTS.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I like their music. I don't know, I know too. It's sudden, with the Oobys, her Ooby One, kenobi, confessional. I'm like this is why you're single. What are you talking about? And she's like I don't want a man to lead. I understand what she means by that because, like she said, she loves the power. But I mean, no man wants to be run by a woman. I don't think like the way she wants to do it. But, like reality connoisseur said, I can't just imagine dating her. It's just, she's a good hey, aaron, she's a good friend, right, yeah?
Speaker 2:She needs a friend with benefits.
Speaker 1:That's all that's you're right, you're right, that's all.
Speaker 3:I don't mind being a woman.
Speaker 1:Because she's not ever going to get married Ever? I wouldn't. She can't, she'll lose that money right.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's the fact she'll lose the money. I just don't think she wants to be her, her life to be run Like her husband. Man has her life for like what? 13, 20 years or whatever All of the money we're married.
Speaker 1:I do feel bad that she wants to prove something to her ex-husband still. Like I feel like that still might be like some issues that she has, because I get it, but like she has to prove herself by now to him. Like you know what I mean, like I don't even think he's paying attention to her really. She's not going to get what she wants out of him. She's not going to get. He's never probably going to say that to her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think he really cares what she's doing with her life. No no, why don't she just go ahead? And we all know she's filthy rich? On a coffee hilton level. So why don't she just spend her money in her old golden years, ride her horse and just chill?
Speaker 1:We don't really care, exactly Like she could share her life with somebody. Like you said, you know A friend, a friend and lover or two who cares. I mean I love her and Garcelle, being like really good friends because you know that they're actually friends, like you can look at her and you know that they're fake.
Speaker 2:You know that all the other ones are fake For me. Sutton gives off that I'm not really racist, but I'm racist adjacent vibe you know my mom worked for a lot of made Italian. She was in the horse racing industry and you know they would say, oh no, not, you're not one of the those blacks. Uh, uh, dale, you know, you one of the good ones, you know she gives off that to me, wow yeah.
Speaker 1:You sounded just like an older family and the way that when you just said that I that never has done me before until you said that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I had turned down some money. Um, her boss was going to give me and she smack me in the head. She's like you, don't do that, take the money. Take the money, say thank you, take the money Cause you know you never turned down a maid man.
Speaker 3:How much is this short?
Speaker 2:Well, I know that rule and I was eight and I had no idea.
Speaker 1:I was going to say like, yeah, I was eight.
Speaker 2:I had no idea Eight.
Speaker 3:And I was like uh, okay, sorry sir, um, I do like crystal.
Speaker 2:I like crystal more when she's with her family.
Speaker 1:I like Don't you see, that we get so much more out of her. Hey, so much more out of her when she's with the family. You know her, her.
Speaker 2:Her housekeeper? Oh my God, she is. She is reality TV Cold, you hear me? I want to see more of crystal, even though she called me an animal a couple of years ago. I don't care, i'ma let it go. I'ma let it go. I'ma let it go. I want to let that go, um, because I really, I genuinely like crystal. Me and Gumbor Love crystal and we were the only ones that loved crystal. I kept forgetting about her, but okay, and I really think crystal is also filthy rich, right yeah, lion King rich.
Speaker 1:And did you see how um.
Speaker 2:Kyle took her new. Uh, what was it? Kelly it was. It was like Kelly green Um Crocodile. Yeah, she was like Ooh, ooh, she was salivating over it Like she wouldn't have been, like she wouldn't have been offered a spec, because that looks like a special um request. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like she has been offered special requests. Okay, she, she's. She's the one that she's never turned down for her to a year quota bags. Okay, I don't know how Offset is getting three Quota bags a year For Cardi B. I really don't. She got three quota bags for her birthday and I don't know how she got three quota bags unless he bought one from a reseller. Yeah, no one, I don't care how famous you are, you have two quota bags a year from Hermes and she got three for her birthday. And I'm like now, how did he work that out? Not unless he used one of Cardi's own quota.
Speaker 3:I was just saying that she probably had one.
Speaker 2:I write one from you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she probably she probably got offered one and he told her to hold off on it and he told the store he was going by it but on her Pro.
Speaker 2:Pro, pro, pro, pro Pro. She was like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what she's talking about. I don't know how she's talking about her Profile or whatever. But yeah, but yeah, but she made. But crystal makes a lot of sense when she's around her husband. Yes, yes, you can tell that. I know, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2:I know Gabor was saying that because she worked as a receptionist and I think that's what she's talking about. You know she's talking about her husband, but I think they they are intellectually matched and that's what I. He may be a little goofy, he's not sexy. Yes, he has money, but the part that he has touched in her is her intellect, and I think when a man can touch your intellect, that becomes sexy.
Speaker 1:I believe that I mean I'm telling you right now, like my husband I think my husband's sexiest man in the world Like, but he's like, he's so plain, he's the opposite of me, but like there's something about him when I'm right, you know what I mean. Like I can see Rob being that sexy guy in bed, just because you know, like it's always the quiet ones, it's what you don't even mean, it's always but, I yeah, they do, they take, they bring the best out in each other and he's goofy, Like you said.
Speaker 1:He's goofy with the cameras around and big Joe and like she does, like I really hope we can dig more into her that family life and or so.
Speaker 2:Because, or so, I'm so mad at Jade right now he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3:He's been doubling down on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, I think Jade is trying to manipulate his mother while she's filming To get what he wants. Jack's doesn't care. All Jack's wants that is forgetting. He has forgotten about his bullying thing. All he wants to be is his with his girlfriend. That's all he can come out, and I think if Jade finds himself a girlfriend, he will not be Mopey. True, he needs something to do, and I think he's mad.
Speaker 2:His mom has found something His older brother, yeah Something. And now Jack has something and he has nothing and he's on the outs. Everybody has something interesting to talk about, even good. Even his dad has moved on and got himself a nice lady.
Speaker 3:Now.
Speaker 2:Jade is the Only one on the outs and I don't like the fact that that's what I'm saying. Garcelle is making herself out to be a quote unquote.
Speaker 1:Bad mom, I don't like that Either, why she's not a bad mom. What is her relationship? Isn't the?
Speaker 2:relationship pretty good with her ex-husband now, yeah, now it is Even with.
Speaker 1:Even with his his boo thing she has a nice relationship with. Do you think she's like? What do you think's going on with him and him? Not throw that in her face or make her feel like she's? I would hope not, cause I would hope she would talk about that because she's really Struggling with what he said and maybe it's Mike. Is it names? I think his name is Mike, right, mm? Hmm, it says look, you know, I agree with you, you're fine, you know you're not like he was. You know, I agree with everything you're saying. Like I think that she would like you know, she would feel better about it and she wouldn't be Like kicking herself when she's down. I feel so bad about that. I think we could. It was like a pin could drop when he said that like the whole world just stuff and was like, oh God, he's been, I'm like he's been manipulative.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's what 15.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Pretty much. He's being very manipulative at 15. Brendan was a was a butt. I was going to say he was a jerk at 15, and I will agree with Sutton Teenage boys are jerks.
Speaker 3:I was going to say that yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that, oh, I'm going to say that Because it's where they start to smell themselves.
Speaker 1:Right, they want to be in, but not quite. I did cry when Berlin sang. That's when Berlin played for Dury and PK.
Speaker 2:I love that song.
Speaker 1:I do too. I hate the movie but love the song. I cried I, I love. Yeah. I was shocked. It was really Berlin, like what music person, producer person we had in some real estate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, why is he not just good with being boy George's George Michael boy George George George Manager George. I think he got jealous of Marisi's life a little bit maybe.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I remember how he started like he was like they were hanging out and he was like I'm going to start losing weight. He wanted to be like another hot husband or something. It's just to me it screams grifters. They scream grifters to me. I didn't do these businesses. You know, that's kind of like Louis Barra. You do these, these short term things and they don't work out, or they do, you make some money and then you spend it and you have nothing left Like and you go on again like. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You're not ever just insane Like or maybe they have money away I would share, you know what, though, with PK it's kind of different because PK is most of PK's life, is in London.
Speaker 1:So is that why we don't know where? Like his, I don't know If he- has hands in too many pots.
Speaker 2:I wish I've. Yeah, he has his hands in too many pots. I think I don't. I don't think he has what it takes in this and this time period to do musical management, because the industry has changed so much since he was doing it. I think he should just stick to real estate and leave it and leave the other stuff alone, because real estate doesn't change that much.
Speaker 2:But, there are too many independent artists and I think Boy George is an independent artist now. He deals with a record company. I think he puts his own stuff out and that's kind of hard to deal with.
Speaker 1:But why wouldn't he? Don't you think he should have a nest egg where he's good for the rest of his life? I mean, look, I don't mind he should. I'm sure he made millions and millions of dollars, right, he lost millions too in 2000. What's going to say the real estate is not always you know what I mean. You can go, you could really lose it. 2008 happened and it was nobody's fault. Lending walls changed, rates went down, rates went up and everybody refinanced. Everybody was done. But the fact that he I don't even know why they got divorced or separated, did they have a reason? Do we have a reason from them?
Speaker 2:When she was talking to Erica she was saying he was spending too much time over in the UK and not enough time with her.
Speaker 1:But see, that's an easy fix, that's not a divorce.
Speaker 2:I think her and Maricio got fined out allegedly and in my own opinion I also think somebody got pulled over, because why did he not tell Dorit until the next day? Because there was a woman in the car with him, exactly.
Speaker 1:Oh, the police report said something else, guess what. They police let him sit there until he's sobered up also, and then blew it, and then let him blow clean, or whatever he did. They let him sober up, so why wouldn't they just say there was no woman in the car? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:What's one? More corruptive lie for him. Here's some money. Oh, I'm going to call Maricio, he'll give you. You know what I mean? Maricio probably paid them off, probably Diane why you?
Speaker 3:calling him.
Speaker 1:For me it's like okay. But then also with Shannon Bedore, like I know she got charged with DWI and misdemeanor, but she should have got charged with what she did to those people. She got probation.
Speaker 2:Patient.
Speaker 1:I know she's not even ordered to like I don't know she's going out patient, but you know what they should do.
Speaker 2:They need to put that breathalyzer thing on her car.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, you know what You're right and I really believe she's. That's not the first time she drives, there's no way. Come on, even I, even I did it, for like I'm not, you know, it's not like she's had dinner and it had an extra drink or two and had it fell right out, got pulled over. She's drunk, she drank all of them.
Speaker 2:She drank. What is it? Don Julio. She drank a whole big old bottle of Don Julio and drove with the dog in the car. Come on.
Speaker 1:And if she broke her arm how hard? How hard does she have to ask it, poor Archie? Because if she was, she broke her arm in that accident. He was thrown around that car. He had to have it. He's not wearing a football, archie, and he's an older dog and then the people's house.
Speaker 2:Did she pay for the damage?
Speaker 1:I don't know why are they not present? I feel like she is not taking those cops over there, are not making them take something's up.
Speaker 2:Well you know, you know Pete Davidson did did the same thing. He ran into somebody's home and they were talking about making him do time for dad or put a property damage and reckless endangerment or something. He was drunk. He was drunk out of his head, allegedly, when he hit that people's car or house. How come he's not doing anything? How come he must have paid them off. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that happened because he didn't get. I heard nothing. I didn't know that even happened.
Speaker 2:I heard that they were going to try and make him do time and then all of a sudden it just went away. Yep.
Speaker 3:I have a question. It's just him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you have a question, Brian.
Speaker 3:Is this a girl that the car, like she, was faster than the furious?
Speaker 1:Yes, I also think she was like freaking out about John. She's probably in her, like having that you know, and in drinking because you know it's a mistake to go left instead of a right. You know where the guys broke and tailed. She ran, she hit her car or tried to hide.
Speaker 2:He tried to make the dog walk.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I know I went with a broken arm With a broken arm. Was your arm not hurt Like she had to hurt? That hurts, so are you walking around going? I'm sorry, I'm going for like yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm just walking the dog here I'm going for a walk.
Speaker 1:Mammy, you're a dog, exactly, and, like I said, he's an older dog. He's 15 years old, I think. 15? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, archie's real old. He doesn't watch much of. He doesn't watch much of OC. Okay yeah, he just got into Housewives.
Speaker 3:Didn't that dog be resting somewhere?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he should, he should, he shouldn't have been in the car period.
Speaker 3:No, he shouldn't have been in the car period.
Speaker 1:John should have never let her drive either. Why did John let her drive? Because John don't really care Exactly. He probably just wanted her to leave because she's not allowed to sleep there. But she's got to take her dog Now. The thing with Kyle I want to give the before we get on to OC or Salt Lake City Road. The thing with Kyle Marisa like I said this last week, she is. I feel like now she's acting out because she wasn't invited. I think that I think I also believe Elsa Jean got pregnant. Marisa was stressed. Elsa Jean got pregnant, I believe, in the beginning of last year and Brandon Brandy is her best friend. So Brandy, of course, is, you know, never keeping her head up, but nobody's bringing this up yet. But she didn't keep it, obviously. And Elsa Jean is beautiful, like I. Really I made that theme with Elsa Jean and Dorito and the hemiflator in the middle, like hemiflator can be, like he has to type it, it's not Kyle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's not. His type, is not Like. That's why she's so insecure.
Speaker 1:So insecure because she is acting like a child. I'm going to do what I want. And then she tells his parents on him that he has tattoos. I'm so confused. He's confused, but he's like wait, we have these fights and everything. Kyle, you know that what I've done, why are you throwing me under the bus on the camera? On camera is what he's thinking.
Speaker 2:Because his mother. I'm surprised his mother is back on the show because she is a Trump supporter. They banned her from the show. I didn't know that. Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:Are they like? Are you and Kyle get along?
Speaker 2:or Her and Kyle used to get along until 2016.
Speaker 3:Oh Lord, the day everything changed.
Speaker 2:Yes, when he was elected, her mother-in-law kept spouting all of this stuff all over. This was before Kyle blocked me all over Twitter and I was still talking to Kim on Twitter every last one of a while and she was just saying some horrific stuff and that's when you notice she never appeared.
Speaker 1:I forgot all about his parents, but I don't understand why, if they have this relationship, why would they confront her on TV about their relationship?
Speaker 2:Because his mother was glad to be back on TV. Do you think she did it for a moment? Ms Estella, honey loves the camera. She loves the camera. That's why Paul Nassif did her facelift. Honey, she wanted to be all over. She loved being on the camera.
Speaker 1:This is why I need to worry about it Because I'm real good with the Jersey stuff. I know that you're good with this stuff Because that's the stuff I kind of don't. You know what I mean. I hear about it, but you know now their parents aren't together. Why is Maricio hiding the fact? Do you think he's mad at the fact that Kyle's acting like a baby, or he's mad that she told his parents that he had a tattoo?
Speaker 2:Maricio is Jewish, and if you are a religious Jewish person not a city, but religious Jewish person you are not supposed to have tattoos. Now I understand the real. You cannot be buried in a Jewish cemetery if you have tattoos. I did not know that.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm really not.
Speaker 1:I'm like why, are they?
Speaker 3:doing that.
Speaker 2:Why do women have a tattoo? No, you don't put a tattoo on a Bentley, my dear. Oh. You don't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley or Rolls Royce.
Speaker 1:Oh you don't need that I have. I guess I'm a Porsche or something. I'm a.
Speaker 2:Porsche Great.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I just like I don't know Kyle was being an asshole to his family, but again, like I don't know if she set any scenes up because she wants people. She says she doesn't want to talk about her, but you know that she does.
Speaker 2:Of course she does, because her whole storyline, her whole storyline is bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. The rumors have been around for years about Ulce Jean. These are not new things. It's just pregnant and it's been, and I you know a lot of stuff has been thrown in Kyle's face and like again, like that's what you get for being boring and taking the wrong side of history, with Erica taking rent aside, going after your sister. If you're so, kyle, if you're so anxious and so afraid of your sister, why would you talk shit on her own camera If you don't want her to call you screaming? What are you doing? Like exactly? And did you see the daughters? The daughters like your mom. You're in trouble, mom.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They are they. They most really like I don't know something. Kyle, they're all looking at her. Hell of nuts right now.
Speaker 1:Because they all know the truth and they're trying to hide it, if you know that daughters know the truth, but she's acting so weird about it too, though, like she's just acting strange to me, exactly Like just sit on the couch and go, I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to do it. Love being, love being, love being. I'm like, if you fucking say love being one more time, I'm going to love being him in the face. Stop calling her love being.
Speaker 2:I know that. You know, because we all know the fact that love being, that he ain't called her love being in a couple of years. We all know that. Yeah, because he used to be to a point where he couldn't keep his hands off of her. He kept knocking her up. So all of a sudden he didn't move on. Now I think he has moved on since season four I bet you which season when her and Vanderpump fell out because she says here's the young lady, that they all talking about the young girl and she's having lunch with Portia. Ooh, what season was that? That was the season Carlson and them came. That was season four. Three or four, three or four.
Speaker 1:Just watching some that's sure, yeah, I changed friends name to Love Beads. I can't get it to go up there for some reason. Did you see me change your name, brad? I made you love being it Show up. I changed this. I'm like am I allowed to do that? Oh my god, I can. There you go, love being Bad Catholic. Ok, yeah, so I just I can't, kyle, I can't with you. They've been around these. This is all crazy to me. I just today I had the revelation. I'm like she's doing this because she wasn't invited to. She wasn't allowed to film, according to Bravo. I get it, but like she also probably wasn't invited either.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it was supposed to be a thing for him and his daughters.
Speaker 1:Yes, so here she goes hanging out why they're over there. She's hanging out with Morgan Wade, which she's not going to. Actually she's her half sister. I'm convinced it's her half sister.
Speaker 2:That's the possibility.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so she's like. You know what he means. So she's out doing all this. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about me so she can forget that. The fact that her daughters and her husband are having a great old, good old time over there wherever doing their show. But, like Kyle also doesn't want to go to Portugal, he has to go to Portugal to do the opening. But again to me, though, he's got hell of money if he's doing all this. He's open in agencies in every country, everywhere, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he has to do that before the, before the US government gets him. Oh OK, remember, you know he did business with Equatorial Guinea and you're not supposed to be doing that.
Speaker 2:I don't even know that You're not, I don't know what that means. Then he did. There's this country in Africa called Equatorial Guinea, ok, and Portia dated the son of the dictator and an actress who played in Booty Call I can't think of her name right now Was that is a family friend of said dictator. And the dictator sent her to repossess Portia's Rolls Royce that the son gave her and to tell Portia to back off the son and Portia, yes, from Atlanta. And so Mauricio sold this man a house that he was having remodeled and he was touring it with Ken and Lisa, baby Portia, I think. She was like, I was going to say how Four then, and she was like four then. And so he took that said house, allegedly in Malibu, told the dude from the dictatorship and the son that it was only worth a certain amount of millions and he doubled the price. He sold it for double and him and his other business partner by the name of Mauricio coincidentally, they made a profit of over $10 million, I think.
Speaker 2:So by him doing business with this dictator who were in sanctions under US law sanctioned this dictator. He wasn't supposed to do business or sell. They're not supposed to do business in the US. That's another reason why he sent that actress to snatch the car from Portia and to tell her to back off. And not only that. The boy the man's sister was just she was considered to be the richest woman in the world was just jailed for stealing money from her country. Their father was stealing money from the country, so the funds that he bought the house with and the Rolls Royce with was stolen money from their country. Wow, so there was these text messages that couldn't be found in the cloud between Mauricio and the dictator's son. The federal government finally found them. So now the case. He was free and clear, so now the case has been reopened and they're going to trial. Yeah, didn't he?
Speaker 1:have to pay. He had been paying that off or something, wasn't he paying that?
Speaker 2:He asked him to pay, I think, either $30 million or $10 million, and he's worth $100 in some way. I think it's worth $120 million. I think, man, that's why he keeps opening these agencies, because he's got to replace the money he's got to have to pay the government. Yeah, I mean he's making.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I don't even want to. I'm not even a guest, I'm not a money that he's making, but wow. But is it just him that?
Speaker 2:owns it. It's got to be. He owns it with a partner. He's a partner to him and another agent I can't think of his name right now, but he's balding white gentleman and he took him. They both left Hilton Highland and started the agency together. Now he does have a business partner, and then he also took on a couple of other business partners that left Hilton Highland and they officially became, so I think it's a partnership of four agents.
Speaker 1:I mean OK.
Speaker 2:And at least the two. I can tell you their names on that and PK is not one of them. No, pk is definitely not one of them. Definitely, they were going to partner on a TV show about London real estate.
Speaker 1:And Maryseo walked out, backed out, right. That is thing, I think. So Now, while you're doing that, let's wrap up this real quick, because I do want to talk a little bit about Salt Lake, because Monica and her mom, yeah, but Maryseo, I don't know how far into this we're going to go in the storyline. I'm still in the thing that I think they need their own show, because this is a real skill list that we're going to take up so much. I don't want to spend a lot of time on Kyle and Maryseo Because we're just so much. Come on, there's a lot there. You're going to take up everybody else's storyline. We can't get into Crystal as much. We get one scene and now her birthday, but that's with them. That's not when she's her real self.
Speaker 2:He brought out his old business partners. They're not. He must have Because they're not in the line up. They're not in the company lineup.
Speaker 1:Is his daughter, his power. Wait a minute I think. Sarah might own one of the agencies.
Speaker 2:I think Farrah is a partner now. Good for her.
Speaker 1:Is she the one has a different dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's from Kyle's first husband.
Speaker 1:I forgot that Kyle had a first husband. Something's up. But now did everybody watch Salt Lake? Did you guys watch Salt Lake?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I watched it before change it was I.
Speaker 1:What do you think about Monique and her mom? That dinner broke my heart.
Speaker 2:Her mother's going to work. Her mom what Her mom's? A piece of work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't understand. I guess Monique has said it, but I can't even like when Heather, I was really happy that Heather called her and pulled her aside after the party because I felt so bad for her. It's one thing like your mother is being an asshole to you and you feel like, however, she explained how she felt, but then have her mom help her with those kids, grabbing all those kids running out of a birthday party or whatever that is. The kids don't want to go and then to take her vehicle. Take her vehicle. What in the effing world is wrong with you? You're not going to become a housewife that way. Kd, we're not going to like you.
Speaker 1:We're going to think you're an asshole.
Speaker 1:Bren, I literally would you ever speak? She called her daughter an MFR. I mean, I, I I'm sorry, I love Monica, I'm upset. I love Monica, I love her. I like her because once she's Jen Shaw, so you know she did that to Jen and I love that fact. I don't like how Jen Shaw approached this woman who had four young kids and tried to get her to be a criminal like her. Thank God, Monica's like no bitch. Sorry, Hi, but that made me happy that she's not. You know, she's not a Jen Shaw, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank goodness.
Speaker 3:I love that guys Okay.
Speaker 1:Did you leave the friendly love me? Yeah, he said he'd be right back Love being, do you? So? The grandmother okay, yeah, I think the grandmother, I believe, like I really monoculated out you have, you've been, you know, your mother hurt you Like I guess that's the grandmother of the Portuguese grandma, right, mm-hmm? Does she hurt, corey? What do you got? I know you got to say what do you? What's going on in your brain?
Speaker 2:Like I said, it's, it's a you're, you're, you're, you're in the right, you know direction. I feel like you have. It's a bad, it's a bad circle, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've never wanted a woman of yours.
Speaker 2:So she treated her like crap and so in turn because that's the only way her mom knows how to parent is how her mother parent her. She did it to her own daughter.
Speaker 3:Does it just not sound like a word for?
Speaker 2:that yeah, generational curves.
Speaker 1:Do you think? And then Monica has a good in relationship with the grandmother. I think right.
Speaker 2:I think she said she did.
Speaker 1:Cause you know, I just I could see exactly what Monica was saying when she was saying all that to her mother, Like, and then, you know, I'm surprised, her mother said we need therapy. I didn't think her mother would say that. I don't think her mother thinks anything's wrong.
Speaker 2:She doesn't, and that's just scary. She really doesn't.
Speaker 1:She's like get over it and like poor Monica, you know, it's not like I mean, I don't fight with my mom, but I feel certain way. I feel the same way. I feel very like like I don't exist kind of. But like you know, an easiest thing for me to do is remove myself, right, and I guess Monica doesn't, can't. I don't know like why she just doesn't remove herself from her mom's life, especially now after she went on social media and dog that shit out of her daughter. Let me see if I can get it. Did you guys see what she did? She's doubling down on the fact that she left her when she oh my God, she left her when she was 12 years old. She borrowed from a stranger's house, basically not stranger, but I moved to a new school.
Speaker 3:That's how it abandoned me A different state.
Speaker 1:You're 12 years old, a new school, with people that aren't your family, and then the mother doesn't think that. She said, oh my God, to me that is just a bandit on the highest levels. Like it is.
Speaker 2:It's also abuse.
Speaker 3:I believe, yes, emotional.
Speaker 1:Very. You're right, brandon, because the way she talks to her daughter, you know that that's not. That's happens a lot.
Speaker 3:It's not normal. I am for. I'm for the daughter relationship. That's not normal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people in the restaurant was getting their life. I was I was so when they were arguing and her mom was being so loud, oh man, oh. And Manaka was trying to keep it at the table and the wait staff was just living. They were living their best life. Let's go over here and see what they're gonna say now, cause they see the cameras.
Speaker 3:So yeah, they do.
Speaker 1:The way that Monica is moms acting on social media. It's like she wants to be a housewife or something being a messy housewife to her daughter.
Speaker 2:Exactly. My mom would have never apologized or taken this side to another person who has done her daughter wrong.
Speaker 3:Right and my mom wouldn't.
Speaker 2:And I would do that to Brandon. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That is crazy, and it's so. And then to say you abandoned me. When I was, my father left. I was like, oh man, no wonder. Like, thank God, she didn't go the other way and not want to be.
Speaker 1:Like, unfortunately, I didn't want to have kids, I was afraid, you know, I didn't want them to go through, I just didn't want to they go through what I went through and I didn't want to, you know, damage my kids, all that crap. But like, thank God, she has four daughters that she wants and she can see, like I'm definitely, like you're not going to damage my daughters, I'm breaking this curse, you know, because you can see, I don't know, I got the vibe from the grandma and that she was, just like you know I just said, a grumpy old lady. Grumpy old lady, but she's probably very resentful, don't really like her daughter, like Monica said, she didn't really want her. So, okay, her mother's still being abused by her mother and then Monica's being abused by the mother and the daughters are, they are watching all this and, like Monica's, like this isn't going to happen anymore.
Speaker 3:Like they don't, they're not going to be abused, yeah.
Speaker 1:And they don't. They're going to see that and they're going to be abused as well. Yeah, because they're going to. You know that's. You know they're around it. If you are around that, you know it's very, you know.
Speaker 3:My question is does a serial on a live bird get started True.
Speaker 1:That's true. What was that, Brian? I hear it Would you say something.
Speaker 3:Question question is does a serial on a live bird get started?
Speaker 2:Yeah, serial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, like her mom is not right. Like she got so angry, so quick at her daughter and was like you're not, what is she? You're not going to disrespect me or something. Like you're not going to talk to me, like something, something I have it. And I was like what in the world are you? What are you? Repeat that again? And she's like I'm a mother fucker. And I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 3:Wow, she actually said that. That's a me back for a little.
Speaker 1:Me too. She's like did you just call me a mother fucker? And it's like okay, I understand If you have anger problems, methods, kd, one thing, but like you, you need to take some X or you need to. They definitely need therapy. And I'm shocked that the mother. And she said I don't have the tools, and that is absolutely obvious that you do not have the tools to say I'm sorry To your. I think.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Monica only needs. Monica needs her mother to be just feel bad and be accountable, and she's trying to get something out of her mom. I don't think it is there. It'll never happen.
Speaker 2:It'll never be there. You'll never. What she's looking for is for her mom to take responsibility, and our mother will never take responsibility for what she did, because she doesn't think she did anything wrong.
Speaker 3:No, People like that normally don't.
Speaker 2:It's just like her mom is just like Erica. Erica doesn't think she did anything wrong by spending that stolen money Allegedly?
Speaker 1:No, she didn't. We know it was really stolen. So it was actually stolen, right. So we don't have to say allegedly. And we know she had those spennets, we don't even have to say allegedly. But she received stolen property. That is receiving stolen property. In my world that's a felony and you go to prison for that, Whether you knew or not. If you don't pay it back, you get a charge. It's a felony to receive that stolen property. If you decide that you don't want to give a better, pay it back.
Speaker 2:Exactly, her mother doesn't have an empathy chip.
Speaker 1:No, You're right, you have to tell somebody how to feel. Then they can sit there and like Erica's faking it and Doritos buying it, right, we know that she's faking it because she doesn't know what empathy is, so she's going to give us what she's never given us before actual feelings. Faking it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Of course, every serial number don't have an empathy chip. These are, that's true.
Speaker 1:And they're like sociopaths, labeled sociopaths, really, because a therapist will try to get a run from somebody that has no empathy. Because you can't grow that, you can't really fix that you either have to be strong enough to deal with it or not. I know people that said friend, love being sorry, love being good.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I'm kind of the compare with the sociopath triangle of this thing that psychiatrists came up with to determine if a person decided on a liver. Symptoms are about wedding, fire-starving and cruelty to animals.
Speaker 2:No, one ever used it in the other. Oh, ok, I see where you're going, you're trying to create a profile.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it starts there. Probably, though, he's right, it starts with being treated or just not having that chip right, and then always being yeah, oh, jeez, yeah. Who did she say her mom was Ted Bundy? Right? Didn't her mom say Ted Bundy? I think?
Speaker 3:so yeah. There's a lot of legend.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, Something about Ted Bundy in Utah yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, love being, yeah, and I wonder how long her mom left her with those people.
Speaker 3:My guess yeah.
Speaker 2:Mom left her to leave the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1:And then her mother. I said, ok, online. Her mother said that she loved those people and blah, blah, blah. And let's say hold on, she loved those people. And it's not true. Her mom is doubling down on it, my screen here, let's see. Oh, her mother said she's bullied. Oh my god, yeah, shan and Van, I agree, I believe she brought. This is what I said last week. Now Shan said why did she bring her mom on the show? I think that she was trying to fix her mom.
Speaker 1:I think this is her last resort to try to fix the relationship with her mom. She's going to put her on the show so they can look back. Maybe this will like. Maybe look back and watch and see. She's going to see herself, right?
Speaker 3:I'm not in a relationship, though.
Speaker 2:But her mother's never going to see herself.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean I know, but in Monica's this is probably my mom. Monica's trying because there's no other reason for her to bring her on the show other than to maybe try to fix that relationship one way, because this is something different. Maybe the mother will look back, look, watch what happened. Watch her, I mean actually. No, let me take that back, because they are doing it right now and her mother's doubling down on it. Never mind Dave the mother. She wants to be a housewife more than she wants to be a mom.
Speaker 2:It feels like yeah, pretty much, but that happens though, you can get that one family member who always wants to be on camera and in the case of New York, it's Si's daughter. Si's daughter is going to put her mom out the way. Honey, there's a lot of cooking branches on the family tree.
Speaker 1:It's like Freddie Helen camp. She's always jumping out of either Kyle's purse or Tamara's purse. It's like, come on, freddie, freddie Helen camp, what are you doing over here? But, oh God, and then the Tylenol that she needed out my head. I was like honey, listen, I've seen plenty of movies where the parents, they, didn't work things out and then she puts them past away. I'm like what movie is she talking? This lady's out of her mind. Come on, lady, you can't come up with something better than that. She made it sound like Monica is supposed to make up with her. You're going to regret not being my daughter because I'm going to pass away, but I don't really care. What I did to you and your feelings aren't valid. Get over it. That's what she said. So, yeah, what did you guys think about Whitney and Mary? Oh God.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Whitney and Mary.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for that one. I was like thank you, mary. Finally, you didn't tell this husband you don't like her for the 50 millionth time.
Speaker 1:And actually it has a real reason, an actual real reason, because again she said you know, whitney responded back. So it's actually I'm not Whitney, I'm sorry, mary's only responding back to what Whitney said. To begin with, whitney called them predators and molesters, all that. And then when Mary sent that message back, that was just literally in defense of what she had said there. So Whitney really should have never even brought the text messages up. Nope, because you said something really damaging and, like Mary said, for once, mary's not what she called her bobblehead, but she has a real reason to hate Whitney because she does school her a lot Like she needs it. Yeah, I'm like Whitney, whitney with her moments, I'm like. First of all, let me just I'm forgetting into this, because I just remembered the thing with Justin, the fact that she acted like she didn't have that conversation about Bobby's birthday party with him already. That, to me, was a story.
Speaker 1:He's like yes, we did this. Dude is not in the. He's not in. He's not in. You know, she didn't like clue him in what's going on, because she's just trying to make moments and make it look like he's a bad husband. Yeah, before they break up, I was like Whitney, oh my God, you need therapy, whitney, this is not a Justin. Then she's like did you make a therapy appointment, whitney? You're the one that needs therapy. This isn't a Justin problem, this is a Whitney problem. And then the opposite.
Speaker 2:This man has lost his job. Well, we'll lose his job and he's realized what he's married and that he's been playing, that he's this big, freaky, deaky person and he's not. He looks very stressed out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, definitely he looks like he is not like. I think he's going back to work is probably a good thing. This was their plan. So I'm like Whitney. You know the witch. She's trying to make moments with Meredith. She did it with this.
Speaker 4:Why are you?
Speaker 1:on the sprinter band, like chasing around the house, the sprinter band, and then she tried to make a moment with Meredith, again on the top of the mountain.
Speaker 2:Meredith was, like you know, asking for the link.
Speaker 1:That was funny, though the link, ok, that was funny. I was like Meredith, come on, I don't even. I don't even. I was laughing at Meredith with that, with the snow bank and not a clash. But it's like I, whitney, stop it. Meredith's going to like Meredith doesn't care if the stuff is right. Meredith is like I'm going to say this. I don't even I was dying. I was like I saw my life flashed in my eyes. I was crying. My life flashed in front of my eyes and you didn't call me for 48 hours and when he's like I saw a snow bank, a truck and a snow bank and then I saw you said near fatal accident. I didn't put two of you together Like.
Speaker 1:I'm like all right, we have to put two of you together and you're just so silly, if you don't.
Speaker 5:I got caught up watching the people live stream from Bravo Con.
Speaker 1:Oh, I watched it. Yeah, people are missing.
Speaker 5:Well, so you know, philly diva, right? Yes, yeah, oh my God. So she got scammed. In her Bravo Con tickets I got all the way to Vegas and the lady she bought her tickets from she was like crying on her live just now, because the lady she bought her tickets from went silent after she got her last payment. So she's walking around the streets of Vegas, crying because she can't get into the thing. Yes, oh my.
Speaker 4:God.
Speaker 5:Well, and then um well, they were selling. They're selling a lot of their wares too, like Bravo, jenny from Bravo and Blaze was showing us all around the booths and stuff and then, somebody inside they're having to ask Andy Pandal, and Andy of Beverly Hills was on his way there and Jeff started questioning Andy and all the audio was perfect. And then I guess they did something that made everybody's phones mess up because all of a sudden nobody's audio would work on their recordings. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like they did something yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, probably Poor girl. Poor girl, she got scared.
Speaker 1:Last Bravo Con, we, her, philly, we all realized that the fun was outside of the show, outside of Bravo. Yeah, we can watch. So we can watch everything that goes on on stages, right, everybody's like. But everybody hangs out in the hotel lobbies, the lounges, you know, everybody would see at rooftop bars.
Speaker 1:So she's going to be able to hang out and see everyone. Like I feel bad that she's at it, but like she last year we you know she was there she got to go on stage and everything Like right after that we were out on the streets Like you know what I mean, we were hanging with all everyone. Yeah, hopefully she's going to have a positive. How much money you learned? How much money you learned? Did she say no?
Speaker 5:but I had to pay. She's got to find that lady Like she's got Lady's Tile it.
Speaker 2:It has to be because the tickets were like $1,000, weren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 3:They're crazy prices $1,000 for one ticket, yeah.
Speaker 5:The lady had the nerve to send her an ID. So Philly diva has an ID of somebody who's supposed to be the person that sent it. So we're still hoping that maybe it was a real ID, because she could go to the police with this. I don't be like this.
Speaker 2:She can't be, she can call me.
Speaker 1:I'll background check that. I'll background check that lady real quick. I can do that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, well, I don't know. I'm going to hold her. She's all. I'm going to go to my hotel room and cry yeah.
Speaker 1:And now, because she knows, I know that's very dist, that's disturbing, that's horrible. I hope we can figure this person out, though, like I hope she finds. Hey, hi, hey.
Speaker 3:Oh, that.
Speaker 2:Sorry, that was me, I love you guys.
Speaker 5:That was the perfect sound effect, because we hardly get to see Aaron's face in these YouTube.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, Aaron is shy, brendan, that was not she. Oh, my bad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hi Brandon.
Speaker 3:Hey.
Speaker 4:I was just thinking maybe everybody could send her like a positive note. I could put her Instagram in the thing, Maybe we could do something positive for her center. I don't know if she's like, because she's actually very concerned that she's failing her subscribers and people who watch her and stuff. So maybe we could say when she does post up, you know just everybody like it and say thank you.
Speaker 2:I don't know her, that's.
Speaker 4:I just want to do something positive for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm happy to share her link. Yeah, I'm missing Krista. Yes, because I didn't even know. Yeah, yeah, please, anything for her. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I know she, I know she's, oh man, even the thing of money to spend to go out there and everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's never a disappointment. I don't want her to think she's there's people out there she can hang out with and she's not going to row in her entire week.
Speaker 2:We can even have other shows she's going to.
Speaker 3:Okay, she have the tickets for that, yeah.
Speaker 4:She has tickets for them separately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a lot of things that's going Vegas, vegas, and there's about 30,000 other people that love reality TV with you plus all of the reality stars. They have events, they have you know, you know.
Speaker 2:Happy hours and like.
Speaker 1:Comic.
Speaker 2:Con.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, so it's like I didn't even remember, like I didn't even you know, realize that I didn't really miss not having the Bravo come ticket, like I did get a concussion and forget everything. But oh man, oh yeah, I was on the film with half of our subscribe, a lot of our subscribers, because I couldn't, I wasn't making sense and I was walking to my back, to where I had to go, and I was going to where Ryan Daly was having a happy hour and I went to the hotel door and I thought it was going to be super heavy and I Bounce back.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think I have a function and they're like you're not making sense I think everybody but all the stuff they're like not making any sense. I'm like I'm trying to just get to back to where I have to be. Go home, it was just yeah.
Speaker 3:Have to hurt.
Speaker 1:It. I have never had a concussion and I just remember asking them every five minutes, like I'm okay, right, when am I at? I'm at room, like they're like where are you at, Are you walking? I'm like, yes, yes, yes, I was scared because I kept forgetting. Every five minutes I would forget what was going on. Like I'm like okay, guys, I forget what. You don't even mean.
Speaker 3:I was scared and I left my. I had a concussion. Yeah, you did. I think I did, mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:So now I remember you got into a fight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just, I just. I guess it's just very overpriced to be there. And I just it was. I don't know it, maybe it's just me, but I was hot and like to try to get to the go to the bathroom. You waited like an hour because they oh my God, that was it Now what happened?
Speaker 5:Yeah, we know who wedgie podcast is. They said. Jeff Lewis just said Monica from real housewives of Salt Lake city is on food stamps and he guarantees she is three months behind on her Range Rover. That's what Jeff Lewis just said about. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, you're not going to be on food Wow. You're really getting paid by Bravo. Why would they put you on food stamps? You wouldn't be, I don't want to know. You wouldn't be.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:He is such a jerk.
Speaker 1:He's a piece of shit. Thank you, jeff. You're really a jerk, because that doesn't even make sense. She got paid.
Speaker 5:I mean that's like too far, that's too far, that's not that's too far.
Speaker 1:It's because I was on food stamps. She admitted she was on it before. Yeah, I guarantee you, I can prove she's on food stamps. Why the state of California?
Speaker 5:or wherever that you tall is not going to get for food stamps. Oh yeah, no yeah. Your face on the thing, though.
Speaker 1:We'll start the Jen Shaw file on her ass. She knows better. She was crumped and she was. She would have done, I love her.
Speaker 1:I feel like she is fresh, faced with us. She's honest. She's got real damage from her mom. Like I really want to see her grow from that, like I want her to. I don't want to say be okay, because I don't Can. I want to show ever be okay with the way her mom is yeah, but maybe her she can you know her daughters will fulfill her and make it. I don't know He'll that part of her because Mm, hmm, I am yeah, she does. I mean, I think she did bring her mom on there too, though, to try to fix that relationship and maybe have other people say, look, hey, dave, or you know other people, I don't know. I just I don't want her to be messy, I don't want to find anything. I want to know more about what she did. Like she admits all her growth. I want to know what it looks like. Plus, she gets child support. So how she on food stamps.
Speaker 5:I mean depends on how much you make. You know there's a threshold for all those type of benefits, but you know it's really interesting to us. We love Monica.
Speaker 5:Yeah because we love real, authentic, not made up Right Stuff and we can feel it. It's energy, right. So Monica is serving an energy right now that's relatable. We all feel that. It's authentic and real. Yeah, we love how she gets in front of what people could use against her, like I'm all about that life. I tell my kids all the time don't have nobody holding that thing over your head. No, you're going to tell it on yourself first. Don't have anybody have any power over you. If they say, ooh, I'm a tail, be like, wait just a second, go tell on yourself. Because that's how people get caught up and I love that she's doing that for herself and I feel like the other castmates are kind of used to being backhanded and sneaky about their stuff.
Speaker 5:So they're like that's how she is, but she's just being in the front of things. As far as her relationship with her mother, that was so hard to watch. Are we watching?
Speaker 3:yesterday. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4:Is her my Brendan.
Speaker 5:Like is her mom bipolar? She was like full on having manic wings in front of us. Yes, full on manic. I did not. And then like eating her food. Oh, what's this dessert? Oh, whatever it is yeah it was like eating things, it's like she was.
Speaker 1:Like that triggered me bad man by a family member does that stuff and I'm like stop it. It's like it's an obvious thing and you know, oh my God, I did not pick up on that until you just said that because I was like wait a minute. Is that I was thinking more along the lines of maybe she'd taken some medication?
Speaker 3:But she was. I don't think she's on any medication.
Speaker 5:I think she's just a high low lady and even her her manic goes all the way back to her childhood. Because what mom of a 12 year old daughter unless you're having some type of manic episode would leave your daughter with some strangers, so you can go to New York and never look back and never get her, and then you're on TV and she needs to just get over it. That's a whole manic episode, you guys.
Speaker 3:I think it's just her being a narcissist and there's nothing really like.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's going to be. I don't think Monica is ever going to get what she. She's never going to get what she wants from her mom.
Speaker 2:But no, it's going to crave it.
Speaker 1:She's always going to want it, because I kind of understand that, but I just hope that her mom the fact that she brought up therapy to though admits that she doesn't have the tools. That's the most honest two things that woman has said.
Speaker 5:the best two things that woman could have said was that we need therapy because I don't know, because kind of I felt like that therapy cry was just the S well, I mean literally said she doesn't care a number of times and then all of a sudden, we need to go to therapy.
Speaker 1:Well, therapy is for people who give you know true, she actually thinks that has to forgive her, for a Monica has to get over that. Or like I'm going to die so you have to forgive me, or whatever. I think, well, like why don't you just like say to your daughter I don't know, see, she looks at Monica cry and she has no feeling. So then it's just not. You know, you don't grow empathy. You obviously maybe she's reset. Like you said, monica called it, monica called it completely with her mom.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the whole generations of resentment, or something she said, she put it really well.
Speaker 1:But I just think, why is she hate her? It's deep, like to call her an MF or like I don't even think she was talking to Monica, she was just flipping out. Yeah, she was not realizing that. I think that she's just like you said she's just flipping out because she lost her shit, put her in her and said I'm not so mean bitch.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would have been so confused.
Speaker 5:It's like her mom wants a snowflake. It's like her mom got invited on the show to be supporting for her and now that she has some camera time and she saw Angie's dad.
Speaker 5:A lot of this goes back to Angie's dad for me, because her mom has hot pants, allegedly. In my opinion, that reaction she gave to Angie's dad and then that whole apology after to me was to make it Angie's dad, make her think, make him think that she would never raise a person like that. So of course they can go have a drink. You know what I'm saying, because who would apologize for somebody that you've never even met? You know what I'm saying, unless you have an ulterior motive. And the way she lit up around that man and she was just like. She shook her little thin hair and everything. She was like she came alive. So yeah, it's a really sad situation. I just realized Brendan is loving.
Speaker 4:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:Hi, shabee, I definitely think that I forgot about the dad and her, did you all right? So the scene was Sean walking into that too. I said their dad and Angie are doing their whatever dinner. Sean was like did you realize how Angie is? Like I'll feed you, I'll serve you whatever. And Sean's like I'm taking a shower, see you later or have a good night, or Sean was not able to see her.
Speaker 5:Yeah well, and he didn't touch her. So to me that whole scene, if I was a wife and my husband supposedly just ran down to the, what she said was he just had to run down to the shop for something, the beauty shop for something. He'll be right back, probably before we finish. So that implies that he just left for a minute and he'll be right back. So why you gotta take a shower if you only have a minute, brother? Why didn't you get close enough for me to do a sniff check?
Speaker 4:Why were you?
Speaker 5:there. You didn't even address me and you run to take a shower and you saw how the dog was sniffing on. He's like oh, I gotta go take a shower.
Speaker 1:The rumors might be true. I think they're true, but I think everybody's in the loop and I feel like even Sean and I don't think they ever have dinner together. So Sean to me he didn't really. He said that was normal for him and Angie, yeah, in front of us, like she was going to serve him dinner, like he was coming home. He'll be right back. He's going to come eat dinner with a endeavor and then he's like see you later, take care.
Speaker 5:I'm like and that is so weird. If he was so, remember how he was crying when the rumors came out. Right, yeah he was sitting there crying oh my god, what do my daughter think? Well, what's your daughter going to think too? When you walk past your wife every chance you get, never take a moment to caress her, don't even say hi to her properly when you walk in the house, I mean, and then you immediately have to run to a shower. I mean, anybody who reads the Cosmo article knows those are the signs.
Speaker 1:They all know those signs. The whole dog in the bed between them. Yes, you know that your parents are having. You're not even telling the whole adult daughter that she's that big and that dog that's the biggest. Oh god, that makes me. You're not even saying, hey, we need to have privacy, like it's obviously probably true.
Speaker 5:Yes and then it was weird for her father, who's a man, and everybody knows there's a hierarchy in relationships. I don't care who you are, there's a hierarchy. Some people allow the man to lead, some people want to lead together, but for her dad to tell her what she needs to do is wear the pants over her husband, please, what man do you know that wants their wife wearing the pants over their husband? Like is he trying to set her up for the divorce finale? What is he doing?
Speaker 2:I don't mind that. Well, brendan, you were raised by a strong woman, so you're a little different.
Speaker 1:That's why Sutton is always going to be single. She doesn't want to be in the lead. I feel like maybe they got together when they were really young and they're just great business partners, they're great friends or great best friends. Maybe they had sex, they had a baby and maybe on her her like she had to get married, maybe she felt like she had to marry him because I don't know, but maybe they just I don't mind their situation. If that's the situation, I just feel like it screams jessalimp of it who.
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Speaker 1:I made sure this week I didn't have to be ready. I'm going to need some Erica stuff, because I she takes 20 years off my life all the time. I need people to reel me back in and be like it's okay, it's alright, I'm going to be like it's okay.
Speaker 1:I know she's fun. I know that she's hanging with Tom senior probably for a long time in Vegas. He's running all the stuff in Vegas. I think they tried to unalive Tom's already. I feel it all of it. Everybody's like you're just crazy. I'm like no, I actually saw that. Like Dana kind of has receipts, like receipts. I think they're waiting for all the micro receipts. Look at me, I'm still going to have to ask Erica Godd on it. I'm just like she's really crazy. I'm like she's crazy. I'm like you can't even imagine that. You know she's crazy, just like I was. Like you didn't even tell me it was the right way that I met her. I'm like listen, she spends so much money Like I just do you receive it, you stole it. You didn't steal it. Whatever you received it. That's a felony. You don't think you should pay.
Speaker 5:You know, I just Mr. Make it make sense. She's taken 20 years of life.
Speaker 3:I just Erica, I don't know, Maybe she's really not a criminal, I don't know. Oh good one. Oh my God it was almost she's not me.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, how do you type that so I can make that a statement, Can we? What does she even say? I don't know. I mean honestly, she sings. It's not nothing. There's nothing. Everything that goes in it is different. Everything comes out of the lie. I'd buy something from here. Yeah, I mean honestly, she's got to suck a lot of, to even pay $7 for tickets, Like nobody, Tom Sr, and I swear to God I think the sun's crooked because maybe you know, We've never seen him.
Speaker 5:Oh my God, how can we never even see him?
Speaker 1:Facial reconstruction from his big snowstorm crash. When he rolled his car seven times, remember he probably had to get plastic surgery. He's probably. You know. He rolled his car like how can it be so hilarious?
Speaker 3:And no facial reconstruction.
Speaker 1:The snowstorm, the great past of the snowstorm of 2019, apparently. And then there was a blizzard.
Speaker 2:I've only known it to snow in Pasadena once during the Rose Bowl and that was like 1980 something.
Speaker 1:I think one time, until like 2016. I was like well, trying to do the math, but listen what I got to get Erica.
Speaker 5:Jane is she needs to put the syringe down?
Speaker 1:Step away from the zimp. Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 5:Then maybe she'll have to put to Pat, because it's looking really bony down there right now and she might want to pay off some of the people that she ripped off when she was using the victim's money Because she's crying about. Well, anybody work with me, because the way you treat a people who left them all holding the bag, that's why you worried about who going to work with you, lady.
Speaker 4:Where's my hand?
Speaker 5:You might want to take a voice lesson when you do get some food stamps from Monica, so that you can carry a note to the line when you finally do end up indicted on all these charges, because it's not over yet.
Speaker 1:Because once the bankruptcy gets done, if they convict them, then it's easier for criminals to convict them.
Speaker 4:Oh definitely.
Speaker 2:Aaron, I can burn it Now. But you know what? My sister is actually diabetic and she's on semi-glutide. She says she can't really eat anything.
Speaker 1:She's well. I mean, she really has IV, she really needs it, though. That's it.
Speaker 5:She doesn't have that stomach paralysis thing right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no.
Speaker 5:My friend's already in a class action lawsuit for that out here in California because she was only on the Zimpic for like three months and her stomach already won't do what it's supposed to do now. And she was big too. She was big, so she really had it, but for some reason it did that to her, so we got to be careful with these things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm glad I never took those dumps. I am a diabetic.
Speaker 1:Well, you need it. That's the thing I know. Erica I mean not Erica Erin's dying right now to say something, because we disagree on everything almost with Erica, and I'm dying to know your thoughts, erin, on Erica and the interview with Mr Zach Peter, and what are your thoughts about Erica?
Speaker 4:Because, first, zach did an amazing job. I thought that the layout was beautiful. I thought he was very professional. It did look like two friends talking. I think that's amazing to have those skills to do that. I want to start with that. Zach did amazing on his interview with Erica. Also, I thought that this was the first time we really saw a different side of Erica. She was much more relaxed than we've seen her in interviews. Even when she's gone on Access Hollywood I believe she's done that many times she always seems very tense and very strict and she seemed very relaxed and laid back. I think that we're seeing a different side of her and I really enjoyed that part of it because I think everybody has more than just one dimension. I did put Zach's link in the chat so that people can go see the interview for themselves, and I liked the interview. I thought it was well done. I thought we got to see a different side of Erica.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to accuse anybody of something until charges have been released. There is no proof, so I will not judge somebody off, just our opinions. I'm very. I just don't believe, even when somebody is tried, even when Jen Shaw was, I do not believe of accusing people until they're done. Jen Shaw has done it. I always said I prayed for the people being hurt. I do the same thing in the case with Erica and the Gerardy. I prayed for the victims, but I don't blame anybody until facts are proven, and so that's my still my opinion here. I like to believe people are better, and that's just. I'm an optimist, but I do want to give it a shout out to Zach, because that was an incredible interview and the way that he made her feel relaxed enough for us to see a different side of Erica. That's a skill and amazingly so.
Speaker 1:So that's how it's done. Zach has been from day one. It was because of Erica on the day she fell out for divorce. I listened to him, I found him, I messaged him somehow. From day one he has always been a friend, he's always been. He's your friend from the day Like. He's always been that same person. And I agree with you as much as I. I love that he got that interview. I love that for him. I'm happy for him. But now I would agree. So even if we agreed that she didn't steal the money right, but don't you agree that she spent? But she received it and she spent it.
Speaker 4:I believe that she doesn't. I know she doesn't know how to show empathy, so I'd be interested to see her side of it. I believe when she did the charity event, her actually like going up to these people and showing sincerity in her side of her feelings towards them was beautiful. I do believe she needs to show more. If she feels more, that I will agree with. If you feel bad for these people, you need to show it instead of putting up a wall, which I understand why she put up a wall.
Speaker 4:So many people came to attack her immediately. She didn't even have a moment to breathe and I believe she has done so many things wrong to represent. I'm feeling bad because she has said she felt bad, but she hasn't shown that in action and I would like to see some action shown, even if she did a concert and money went towards these victims or something like that. When it's all said and done, I do know, legally speaking, because I was divorced and he wasn't a great guy, as everybody knows I know legally, when you're in it, you're not allowed to say too much. So I'm wondering if that's still why she hasn't done anything, because her lawyers may be telling her you can't, because it shows you're one of the.
Speaker 1:But she obviously received stolen property. It's obviously that she did. Now, unknowingly or knowingly, she obviously received.
Speaker 4:Like he has said in the interview Zach, she's not sorry she didn't get the earrings back. She wouldn't have proved that she wasn't a part of it, but she thought the money should go to them. So in the interview that was one part that I keyed in on that she said, no, I didn't want the earrings back. I wanted the proof that I did not actually do the crime. But she actually did not fight. She could have gotten the money for what they sold with the earrings back, which most people did not realize till this interview, which I did know that legally she won, so that money should have been her. She said no to the money coming back to her. She was okay with the money going towards the victim, as long as she just didn't want the blame, but she was okay with the money from the earrings going to the victim. So I think that was a big part of the interview I took away from her.
Speaker 5:Does anybody know about the whole two sets of earrings thing? And she's being sued by the trustee because she gave back earrings that weren't the ones they asked for. So why is she being so dishonest on that part?
Speaker 1:They had proof of that.
Speaker 2:No, that's the reason the trustee found the one, they replaced them. We can tell them it's the one that replaced them because the $1.3 million earrings that she thinks is the ones that she has that's only one that she has is worth $700.
Speaker 1:She knew? Yeah, did the other worklers give them back or?
Speaker 2:something. No see what happened. Is they got stolen? Yeah, and to please Erica, he went and got replacement earrings, Okay right. They were same earrings, not of the same quality. Right, they were the same carrot weight, but not the same clarity, which meant the price went down phenomenally Instead of 1.3, the earrings that she won the money off of were $750,000. But they were the replacements correct. They were the replacements correct.
Speaker 1:So why are we trying to act like that? Obviously they're not the same earrings. I don't understand why, but she believes they're the same earrings, though, wow.
Speaker 3:She knows the quality.
Speaker 2:That's the problem. She believes they're the 1.3, when they're not.
Speaker 4:She does not understand that he did not buy earrings at the same value of the other ear.
Speaker 1:No, she, tom did it. When Tom bought her the replacement earrings, she knew exactly what he did with those earrings. What is the big FN deal? She said, like she stole them.
Speaker 4:Somebody should know. Our point is she did not know. The earrings to second pair were not the same values at the first pair, which is and she wasn't there. There is proof that she wasn't there when they were purchased. Tom bought the earrings, Tom bought the earrings at the most time.
Speaker 5:But he bought all the earrings with Gerardi Key's funds, which was the victim's money, being co-mingled with their money, which makes all the purchases tainted, which makes it her bad to even accept it because she didn't know the amount of time.
Speaker 4:That's stuff, but she did not know that at the time she did.
Speaker 5:She used to work at the thing. Remember when Erica first came on the scene? I used to work at Tom's office. I know everything that goes on there. She said that it's a mortalized on film that she said those words. And now she's doubling back years later trying to act like oh well, I'm just a doting housewife who had everything paid for me and I don't even know how to press the buttons on an ATM. She's a liar. And then listen to this. Just one more thing. One more thing.
Speaker 1:I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 5:What do you call a person that doesn't have any empathy A narcissist?
Speaker 2:People with antisocial personality disorder, lack empathy for others, maybe contemptuous or indifferent to the feelings, rights or suffering of others.
Speaker 5:This is from mercmanualscom, so she got an issue. If you made it to 60 freaking years old and you have zero empathy for somebody, don't need to be on a TV acting like you have something to offer the people. You need to go to a class for empathy.
Speaker 5:You don't have to do that, and then that'll lead to the class for accountability. And then come back on the TV and I might want to listen to you, but at this point I'm thinking that BravoCon might need to be the show next year on Bravo, for all the cons that Bravo employees, how about that?
Speaker 1:I know I'm with you because there's a whole other side to this about Tom Sr. Tom the other Tom, not Tom Jardy. She's been with Tom Sr up his butt all the time. He's allegedly a big, big mobster guy out there. He has been getting funneling the money with her, with Tom Jay. I still believe that she did not kill the cops that he was about or that police was at the bottom of the cliff because she wanted him to on a live. Why not? He's the only one that could tell on that she wants to be with Tom Sr. That wouldn't be so. You know why not. She was with him before. That wouldn't be. Why is it a secret, erica? Why are you hiding the fact that? Thank God, dana Wilkie has proof? But it's like that to me is strange.
Speaker 1:It is Like why are you not talking about that? Like, why are you who cares if you're with your ex-husband or your baby daddy, unless he's the criminal, unless you guys were really like doing some sneaky stuff, I don't know? There's a whole other thing, the thing with the earrings. She absolutely knew they were fucking burglarized and were replaced. Why would he hide that from her? You know what I mean. Why would he say I'm gonna replace your ear? Like he would just say I'm sorry, I know, I know I get too much with Erica. I try not to get too hyper, but it's okay. Nobody will ever answer. My question for me is why did she divorce Tom? Why did she divorce him?
Speaker 2:Because she didn't want to go to jail.
Speaker 1:Because she didn't want her name in all the time. No, so the next day she didn't know until the day after the call.
Speaker 3:That was her jail.
Speaker 2:She was in jail for her she didn't know until the day after the call, I think she knew he was coming down the pike. Well, that's the thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Didn't say that Erica. Don't tell us she didn't know until the day after he fell for divorce. Say I saw it coming. I knew he was doing this. I took me a couple of years to figure out how to get out of it Legally. I couldn't just walk away. He you know what I mean. Say those things, tell us, you know. Say look, I, you know. But his ex-wife said 40 years ago or whatever, that he's been doing this from day one. He does this. It's in the divorce decree from his ex-wife that he skills the money.
Speaker 1:I think he promised Erica, I don't know. I think she promised. He promised Erica that the victims would always get paid. We'll just borrow it. I think she was under the impression that they would always be taken care of and it wasn't that big of a deal. Think about it Because he did him a lot of money himself so she could get lost in the shuffle. But she looked that way instead of the right way. She looked left instead of right and see what he was really doing. It just was like I'm okay, rich, it all costs, you know. Like you know, rich, it all costs, it doesn't matter. And then he's gonna get old. But they didn't have him getting old one day, pooping his pants and not knowing. We're not, you know, cursing at like judges and have been holding it. It's like one day he's going to court, the next day shit himself and he's got holdings right. It doesn't just happen overnight. He doesn't want to put darn cliff unconscious for six hours and nobody tells the police, nobody tells the doctors come on, come on.
Speaker 1:She's dead. She wants to die.
Speaker 2:She was always saying come on.
Speaker 1:It was a half-in-sadience that he flipped one of that cliff. She's like, okay, great, now I can. Maybe we'll just like not go to the hospital, like what you lied to that she told me not to. He's fucking unconscious and he's 90. She told you not to Erica, are you kidding you love your. But you said, my God, he was unconscious, he could die. Please save my husband, check with me, check with somebody called 911. No, what do you? Do you go get him from 911? I'm so lost with this.
Speaker 5:It's like been three years, she's like all the time you guys, what if Hyal Richards is taking a page out of Erica's book because all this big Mauricio is getting sued for scamming on that $32 million house and then selling it at a $40 million profit away from that Nigerian prince? You know, my suit is coming down the pipe and all of a sudden they're going through issues and separating and not wanting to be together and this is a problem. So I feel like this is all a setup to prime us to believe that they're literally having problems so that when she splits the, when she leaves him, watch her leave with all of her stuff intact, of course. But listen, the kids have their legacy because she's going to leave and take what she's due before this case gets done and then he's going to get left holding the bag on that and whatever happens over there, whatever she took prior to the case going through, she'll be able to keep.
Speaker 1:They cash the house out, but you're forgetting it. He's got a mistress too. He's got to take care of Miss Elsa Jean. He's got.
Speaker 5:Elsa Jean out there. I don't really know if he's screwing that lady. You know, I don't like.
Speaker 1:This is the porn star.
Speaker 5:I believe that Kyle is smashing the Morgan lady because somebody put a picture of Morgan with Kyle. That last year's BravoCon. You guys, they're sisters, they're half sisters. Kyle and Morgan are half sisters. There's country singer in her.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you she really thinks that it's cool to have a video with your half sister and pretend you're going to kiss her. There's no other reason for her to have that tattoo. There's no reason for Kyle.
Speaker 1:Her dad was a guy who had affairs right, wouldn't be out of the room to say, oh, I have a child and you know, she was raised by her stepdad. I believe she found out that they were half sisters and then she's just using that as a. That was the happenstance too. Don't look what's going on over here with Marisa. I would look at us over here. Let's pretend we're the ones that made up that thing about her and Morgan. We said that she was having an affair with her. She was just hanging out with her, like she does with Teddy. The weird shit is is how close they got. The only reason you're going to get that close to another famous person is if you're freaking related or like your long lost half sister. They look alike.
Speaker 5:I don't think, don't think. Well, didn't Morgan's girl come out and say that?
Speaker 1:She don't know, she was just telling us she didn't know. Well wouldn't.
Speaker 5:Morgan to save her relationship. Wouldn't Morgan have told her this is my half sister? I don't think she wanted that.
Speaker 1:I don't really think she cared about that relationship. She was with a guy like I don't think that was like a couple of years, but I think she was. Also she had just broken up with a guy that I forget his name for a really she would there together a really long time. But I just think, morgan, she wasn't a fight fan of the show. She had no idea what was going on with housewives. Kyle had no idea about her songs and they have her their things tattooed right. I really think they didn't really think that but they didn't touch in the video they were playing with us.
Speaker 1:She's doing a documentary, I believe, because they're half sisters and I think that they're gonna reveal that on the show. And I think that Marisa got also gene pregnant in the beginning of last year. Brandy told Kyle because Brandy's her best friend and I know that she didn't have it or whatever. But like he's not secretive about that, I'll send you guys the link. I'm gonna end thing if I use the c-thop, but the stuff about Elsa, jean and Kyle does not like that, I believe Elsa.
Speaker 5:Jean now and Dorita kissed his back remember. And now supposedly PK and Homegirl are having problems. But what's the girl's name? Elsa, who?
Speaker 1:Elsa who. Elsa Jean, Elsa.
Speaker 3:Jean, yeah.
Speaker 1:Be careful when you Google her. Put Marisa's name in it, because she's a really popular porn star and I can't get rid of it on my laptop now.
Speaker 5:Okay well, luckily you know how on iPhones, it kinda helps you a little bit on that part.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I never. I don't watch porn, just kidding, interesting, because she's weird, shay, she, kyle, thinks it's cool to. Oh, let's do a video, like we're gonna, like they didn't really kiss or anything, but we're the ones that made that up, we're the ones that said they're having an affair, blah, blah, blah. But she said don't Google her.
Speaker 3:I'm nosy.
Speaker 1:I wanna see if I can get the stuff I saw. I won't show the Patreon stuff. I don't want Dana to get mad at me, but I mean, it's not the stuff that Dana found. We could probably find too.
Speaker 5:But like you don't want to do something like that. August Alcina, the one who had the entanglement with Jada Peter.
Speaker 3:Tupac.
Speaker 5:Smith when, after the whole entanglement thing came out Remember there was that video of him almost kissing a guy and the guy ended up being his brother, Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:But he had an entanglement with a guy, though.
Speaker 5:I don't know, but that wasn't true. It was literally his brother it was literally his younger brother, and there was no entanglement. And then they came out together and they were like you guys don't believe anything, this is my brother, but in the video they made it seem like they were intimate. That's what I mean. Yeah, so maybe you're right, kristen.
Speaker 1:Listen. This came up like when it first happened. I was listening to the Patreon. I was like, oh, she was, yeah, I gotta find it Because all right. So when I went back and I listened, I watched Amazon Live with her and Kyle. They're banners like sisters. I'm telling and I just, I don't know. I really still believe that because I don't understand why else she would get her name tattooed. If you're having a affair with her, you wouldn't be putting her out there like that. If you were sneaking around because she would have to be sneaking around Kyle why would you be out there with her?
Speaker 5:I love boys. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Oh man, there's a lot of bravo concept.
Speaker 5:They are really gross sometimes.
Speaker 1:I thought, I but I don't know. I just I'm like I really wish that Tommy stuff, I don't know, maybe it'll come out a little bit later, or her and Tom senior. I guess maybe it's very legally banded, I don't know, but it's crazy to me. I wish I gotta have to put Dana's Patreon again in here, because it's worth it for $6.99 or I think $9.99. She gives you the whole pot of tea, like we get the tea. She gives you the whole pot, though.
Speaker 5:That's crazy. She still has the inside of scoop from being in the Hollywood.
Speaker 1:She just knows so many people too. Like every time she has information, she says where she got it from, she shows us the receipt. Hmm, oh, sajin, here we go. Marie, sir, cheating, separation, lesbian lovers, blah, blah, blah, there's.
Speaker 1:I know there's pictures in here. Hold on, yeah, I was shocked. I was like, oh, a Mauricio. And I was just like, wow, what a stomach. Like wow, that's really freaking bad. She's a doll. Okay, okay, she's like a doll. She's very tiny little porn star saying you know, that's a sight. I thought that was strange, I thought that was cringe, I thought that was like he's a little creepy. But none of them look like Kyle. They're all blonde blues, yes, blonde Like. And then Emma Slater why were you holding her hand? Why were you holding her woman's hand.
Speaker 1:Seriously, marie was holding the porn star's hand. Yeah, no, emma Slater, the dance lady, the dance girl oh yeah, yeah, I don't know if she had a baby.
Speaker 1:I thought she didn't, though Like I don't know what I can bring up there, but it was. So there was like pictures or something of them together and then like some text messages that she had and a lot of stuff and it was like Kyle kind of knows about it, the what she says, what else did? She says and her friend and Brandy Grunningville says Kyle knows, Kyle's known about it for years. She said she doesn't want it in her face and she got, apparently allegedly got pregnant. And now Kyle now she's using it as a storyline, but I guess after what she's done with Kathy.
Speaker 5:Whoa whoa, whoa wait. Whoa, whoa wait. Are you Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Are you telling me Mauricio impregnated the porn star?
Speaker 1:Yes, oh dude, last January is there this January. What year are we now Not this January? That passed the one before that.
Speaker 2:Oh no. He's very fertile.
Speaker 1:Love, love, love. I mean, listen, like she also her image got. Very, her image got. She was in Glamour magazine. All of a sudden they cleaned up her image a lot. They weren't going to go for divorce. Now they are. I mean it's yeah, I'll send these. All you like that I'll send it away. Actually, I'll send it to you as well.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's a whole thread on Reddit about this, whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, reddit, I was going to say Reddit was probably the good place to go. Oh, yes, yeah, you got it. Yeah, do you see what I mean? Yeah, and Reddit. I'm sorry, I used to say Reddit is Twitter's evil twin, but Reddit is Reddit, reddit is everything, and I feel like I always thought it was like we're shit, but it just is all true. It all seems to come true, like on the Hills. The one lady she was, that was the Hills.
Speaker 5:Oh, I see what you're talking about, so yeah, so on Reddit somebody did a picture of Mauricio seen holding hands with his recently divorced Emma Slater, but it doesn't tell me about the baby yet, but it does message. One of the comments is I thought he just had a baby with the porn star no way, I'm telling you I was like dying when I saw this.
Speaker 1:I'm like Dana and I'm telling you, like her, she gets everything, she accepts the stuff, she just and I'm like everything that she keeps everything. So, like a year later, this is a year later now. So we were talking about this in January of 2000,. July 8th last year, this year, and all the information, yeah, like she, this is the out front of it. It's relevant because before I'm like other nights and separated right, I was like, oh, another cheating, remember, you know he cheated. When I'm now that all this, now it means a lot. Now that's me. I mean now it's like All right, yeah, I don't like it for a hug here. Yeah, and, and like she's, look at her, she's very beautiful, but she's very little. Yeah, she's teeny, tiny, she looks. And to read, if you had, if you have Dorito and you have Elsa, jean and you and they had a baby, that would look like emis later. That would be emis later. Yeah, he just has the type.
Speaker 5:That is not correct.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. He got really high all this year or something was telling all of that dude he was not with it, he did not want to be here, he was not thinking about and when we see, I've always been one of my fave husbands. You too, but not anymore.
Speaker 5:I like the laid-back husbands who don't want to be a housewife.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:I like those kind.
Speaker 3:I think, I think, I, but there's a lot going on there, right?
Speaker 5:At least the kids are grown. At least there's no toddlers involved. No great school kids involved everybody's. They're adult enough to handle it, hopefully, if it's not true. But I was gonna ask you real quick. Yeah do you think that Whitney and Her dude are gonna make it? Cuz I'm like, how did he Not mentioned to his wife that I'm gonna be out of town for our daughter's 13th party? She's lying, cuz she's lying, she's lying. She's a liar. He's the liar she's trying to look at me like a moment.
Speaker 1:I need the bad husband cuz he's like we did he was. He said we did talk about this, right, she didn't. She didn't fight him on it. She didn't fight cuz she knew that she was trying to make a moment in front of the camera To make him look like a bad husband. I would make him go to make a therapy appointment. You're the one with the problems, whitney. Oh yeah, that's a whole moment. Just like the same thing to see in the dinner. He was confused. He's like what? We don't have problems. I mean, honestly, he looks confused. He looks like he's looking at her like he moves done, because he's like we did have this conference. She said, oh, I can move it to the weekend before because you already did, whitney, you didn't make it on her birthday. Like you would remember that, like you didn't, right, yeah and then she was so okay with.
Speaker 5:Well, I can't go ahead and change it to the weekend before, but I'm gonna need help. But if you already planned it and we're making it for the other weekend, then you would have had more of an issue with it. So you are lying because it was really for the weekend before. Because what Christa just said is true, whitney, you would lie to try to make a moment.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna make move the birthday party oh, I can just move. Now You've made a plan. That was the plan. That was the plan that was. Oh, you wanted him to go back to work, and now they have to go back to work. She's gonna make it look like they're gonna get a dub worse over it. And again, who makes bacon and eggs on a Tuesday morning for kids that have to go to school? Who has the time to do all that?
Speaker 3:Nobody right in the morning.
Speaker 2:And why is he putting his ring in the drawer?
Speaker 1:Because he knows that she's trying to make a storyline and he's like man, I don't know. I think he forgot to wear it that day. I forget mine once in a while, no.
Speaker 5:I never forget mine. I never forget mine. You guys, you don't, no.
Speaker 3:Like you know, see my night you going at all?
Speaker 2:I mean, my right is in my fingers swell, so I always take my rings off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't think they, I think that's something like that. He just forgot one day, just like Kyle said, it's a happy thing because she carried her lies from that scene over to her dinner with Mary, and that scene was classic.
Speaker 5:Why I can't stand Whitney? Because she does things and says things and then acts like she has the right to be more offended at your reaction to her bullshit. Then you know what I'm saying is she's just sitting up there like well. But Mary, you heard my feelings with your text. It's a try to destroy this woman's family. You made it a mission on national TV. She sent you some text on private mode.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's even though different things and for you to sit there. What's your bobblehead little girl? Oh, jane. No, you need to go to remedial classes at this point, whitney, because you're not right. You're just not right, and and therapy.
Speaker 1:that darn it. You're the chiefs. The problem it's not Meredith, it's not Justin, it's not Mary. Is Whitney where? It's poor Whitney? Because it's not Heather? Well, oh my god, heather too.
Speaker 5:I can't wait to whatever Heather ever lurking behind Whitney's facade of smoke. Whatever's lurking, we're about to find out. It's the time of being revealed. Watch, it's all gonna blow up because Jesus is coming for Whitney. Jesus Is coming for Whitney the way she had her. Mary gave her a chance. Yeah, stop Jesus from coming for her.
Speaker 5:I know she's that there and fixed her mouth to want an apology before even apologizing, and then only said oh, that was terrible. She didn't even still didn't apologize for what she did. I know, yep, she was like I'm taking my food. Jesus is on the way.
Speaker 1:Mary came for Mary. I mean, I'm sorry when he came back, I'm sorry when he went for her first and that's why Mary's texture, that stuff yes.
Speaker 1:And then nothing can be heard of me did I, when she said, and I remember what that one content creator that was On a witch hunt for Mary and was having all her family on there and stuff he had all was sending all the receipts, like she really Part of that and she's. I wouldn't forget her either, just like I wouldn't forgive Lisa if I were Meredith. You know, it's not what you said it.
Speaker 5:What's so interesting, though, is there are so many people that are like, oh, I want to reserve judgment, like how we just said for Erica. They want to believe Erica's not you're with like full-on indictments and judges and cases pending and all of this stuff. But then there are a lot of people that are willing to still, to this moment, believe that Mary's thing is some type of cult and no I married, you some type of criminal, and Mary is some type of this, that in the other, and there's no proof of that.
Speaker 5:But people are so willing to believe that there's literal proof about what Erica has been involved in and people are like, well, until the actual guilty verdict comes, I'm not gonna say anything. You know what I'm, it's just right, you're right, it's selective.
Speaker 1:Believing You're selective believing, selected believing like okay you're morally, you morally don't think she did anything wrong, but you're un morally. Thing is she do you know what I mean? Like your moral compass is a little off if you think one, you know what I mean you have no proof of one thing which is so much like it's just as bad creditor, top molester, thieves, oh my god, cults, I mean. Okay, I, I kept saying you can accuse anybody of anything, you can sue anybody for anything and the blogs can get it, but you have to hold up and court has to hold up in court. And even if it doesn't know J Simpson, that doesn't need the whole. The masses aren't going to think one thing like.
Speaker 1:The masses are convicting Erica right now Because you know morally, we know that she received phone property, no other reason for her to leave her husband, except for she knew that he, the money was gone and that was it. The gig was up. You didn't find out the day after. I know I'm gonna probably say this for the day I hit, go somewhere else, but I just want her to be like I knew and I found out or something, and I I took me a couple years because I mean, yeah, we take her probably a couple years to figure out how to leave the dude. Maybe I don't know who shit his pants apparently, so I don't know what the hell why that wasn't a reason. I mean sickness and health, but you're a poor boy. Did you leave him? He needs you the most right now. Apparently he needs you the most. He's the second when are you like? But she doesn't even hate him. What he ruined your life, erica Falling good Bennett and think it was allegedly think that it was yours like. Why don't you hate the man unless you?
Speaker 2:know that kind of exit took planning. Yeah yeah, she had her whole entire closet. She had all of her shoes and stuff. That took time. She took clothes out of that house a little by little, by little by little yeah, tom senior took them.
Speaker 1:Tom senior is the one who took every they feel right from, because he's got money. So I mean he could probably wash money real quick in Vegas. That's what he's done for living. And when they the receipt came up with that not allegedly just exactly that, but the signs are all there yeah, it makes money. Now makes so much more sense to me.
Speaker 1:What happened where she was, where the money came from, which she was doing, when he got caught, like oh my god, we're like who she like you know what. I mean there was something, was something going on and where she was getting money or something. And I'm like there's no extra. You know he spent it all. He spent it. There's no money left. But, dude, oh, she was Funneling it through and I think Tom junior Jorati knew that.
Speaker 1:But eventually he got. You know he's gonna have to go because he's the only one that can implicate them to so just happen late. He just happened to fall off a cliff or roll down a cliff. I think that was just a coincidence. And then he's sort of probably like, don't tell the hospital, maybe he'll die because he's the only one. You know what you mean. That's, I'm thinking how that went. Call Tom junior. When there's a burglary and Pasadena, that big says or Pasadena, where is he, where's? I mean we're like you didn't call the cops. You know what kind of cops says hardly need to call the authorities. Don't call me, I'll get in trouble. I'm not a real cop right now and it's a snow storm. There's a reason he hasn't talked about his mother.
Speaker 3:Hardly ever feels in California.
Speaker 1:They're actually probably real criminals, because you don't hear anything about them.
Speaker 2:Her, tommy oh you think about it real criminals don't?
Speaker 1:aren't like a little as well as running their mouth on camera? I'm saying like people that are actually gonna. You know what I'm saying. You're not out there doing. You know, we never heard about this guy because he's real good at what his job is job.
Speaker 2:Krista, you and I know, yeah, yeah, it's real criminals. They wouldn't be talking.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like, you guys are like embarrassing, but unlike real gangsters move in silence they do, and that that's.
Speaker 2:That's the roof. You're not gonna run around.
Speaker 1:Like you're gonna run in no-nose pajamas screaming through in the book, a lot of whatever. They're a criminal going. I'm winning, she's winning, I'm winning. And he's doing the bubble wolf and there's pajamas like that's a wacky criminal, that's a weird-ass criminal, that's just a weird.
Speaker 2:Like I'm not very.
Speaker 3:Not all I.
Speaker 1:Mean, you have to be smart, but then you have to be dumb too, that you have to be like too smart for your own good. I think you're gonna get away with it if you go on to a reality TV show. I Can't find the psychological behind. I can't find the sake behind it. They're just a dumb criminal. To me you're too much of a criminal. You're too greedy because you think you can't get caught. And we get greedy. They caught. Yep, exactly, wash all that money. We're looking at you now I, if I do something wrong, I don't want nobody looking at me what. And then again I don't want to know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:La, la, la, la la you're not gonna get me, I ain't gonna get you, that's exactly why they can't get heavy hitters to come on this show.
Speaker 1:No, because they don't want to get in my Themselves one day, like we know what can happen with these people doing what they're doing, talking like they talk.
Speaker 2:Come on, I'll pitch this show. She herself, kathy and Kim. No, kim, yeah, but mostly it was Kai. It was herself, oh yeah, and Lionel Richie's ex-wife, brenda, and Brenda was like oh no, not, what's gonna happen? Oh hello, your friend, just amazing. Yes, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know, I love you, I love you guys. I mean, we've had a really good conversation for the last two hours. I like who is? Sister, no everybody.
Speaker 3:Everybody asked that. No, she's the most beautiful ever.
Speaker 2:My hair's a mess.
Speaker 1:She's young too. She's young 34, she's 34.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh yeah, that's good yeah, she's like the other half, my soul.
Speaker 3:Hi, friend of love it.
Speaker 5:So, does she have thoughts about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City or Erica or anything?
Speaker 1:She's like who you know. You don't even force it, force her to get into watch it. I put it on. She's like that, they're cool, we have to watch Miami.
Speaker 5:She's like all right that is hilarious. Don't indulge either. Why are you watching this?
Speaker 3:My mom runs around the house.
Speaker 2:Tell him out. Why are you gossiping?
Speaker 1:Oh, and then it's like my dad goes who the hell cares about reality TV? I said I freaking hope a lot of people. Actually, who cares about sports center for 24 hours? That runs for seven. They talk about sport center. We can we do talk about this 24 seven. We are their news. When you hear something about them, you go to CNN to find out what's going on with Erica. We are the news for them right. Yeah journalist Think so they probably come thinks we're losers.
Speaker 5:We don't get a package.
Speaker 1:We don't get an invite, we don't get press passes, we don't get a place to plug your phone in. Poor Philly divas like Bravo, hate, bravo does not give us any respect and we keep this narrative running. When the cameras are down, what do we do? We make sure they're being talked about, we accept their dance, we get their tea, we make shit up and we make things up the relevant and we get no respect.
Speaker 2:Did y'all see that Rachel is not coming is? Not asked to be on. I forgot about Rachel. Rachel, who exactly yes oh, she got say rock hell.
Speaker 5:Raquel no, she's back to all. I forgot about her.
Speaker 1:I totally forgot them.
Speaker 5:Thank you I don't know if I'm gonna say that way, but I'm still be there, is he there?
Speaker 2:No, she's not been invited I.
Speaker 1:Mean either was freaking Jen Shaw or Tamer Teddy, and they still went.
Speaker 2:Finger all the I thought Romana got fired Marvel con last year. Brendan was before she went to jail.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 5:Rachel slur. But, I know that large from New Jersey used a racial slur so everybody's mad that she's at Bravo con. On the the Mike Graham. Yeah, they said that there's audio, or her saying something I heard like oh, it was AI.
Speaker 1:I heard it.
Speaker 5:Do you do you heard it? Do you think it was yeah?
Speaker 1:no, no, it was a flip, it was a Mike flip it was. She didn't realize it. Yeah, she's, I heard I'm here, so yeah, she should not be a problem. I love Marge and I would usually. I would tell you truth if I really. I Would tell you if I thought it was AI, because I wouldn't want to, but I, the way that it came out it AI, I said that, good, I mean, come on, it was, she was Really good on and she just said it she's oh yeah, she said the inward.
Speaker 5:No, marge, see, I don't like being off.
Speaker 2:Never liked Marge. I am not gonna, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, I'm not gonna say word about it, because I was like how reckless can you be?
Speaker 5:Well, I just don't understand why Bravo is slow to act on some things and quick to act on others. And they just need to be. They just need to exhibit their confused modium of Consistency on these types of things and that will help us.
Speaker 1:TLC does it till see you. If you even hear you get pulled over, you're done. Oh, you got a charge, you're done. You said this you're out, for TLC fires you. They have no tolerance for anything and that's why it tells me you know.
Speaker 1:But then I think Bravo does this purposely, of course they, of course they do. They want the drama and I'm like that's why Peacock, or was it Peacock is? Nbc is gonna, just it's not. I feel like Bravo is just whatever. It's like run loose. It's like the rock bottom of reality television the last three years we're like, but they still won't have an HR department that knows what they're doing apparently.
Speaker 3:I think the other one too.
Speaker 2:I think the other one is is is is a hot Mike away from. What is her name? Dolores, is it?
Speaker 5:What do you think Dolores Cantina? Yeah, you think so, really. Yeah, well, you know I, the only reason I was thinking stuff about Dolores is because her dad was police chief and In the part of town where he was, like, it's not super cool towards you know.
Speaker 4:And so.
Speaker 5:I, there was. No, he never had any cases. I wouldn't check. He didn't have any brutality cases so yeah, I don't know that it would be. She does a lot of stuff for homeless black ladies. I hope she doesn't slip up.
Speaker 1:She also. You know she was a contractor corrections officer too. So you know, I Don't think so, like I know her and I don't, you never know, I don't know, I don't think that at all. I just you know her mom, dad didn't live in the same house too, like they were Separated, really Never lived in the same home, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Is that why her and her husband, her ex, was weird?
Speaker 1:so long. I Mean, I know they never had a reason. This is the thing. After she forgave him for what he did 27 years ago, he was with that girl for four years, so it wasn't just you know, you mean, but she works out. You know, once they were forgiven they were just family that way and there was no, nobody there to make them have to change their dynamic. When she forget Frank, he was able to come in, be a parent or whatever you know friend, whatever be Frank she was, you know it worked really hard to forgive him. Britney's the only girl from these never had like really brought they just like that engage, yeah, they're engaged like they treat what you see truly what you get, like they are truly those people I Can, I believe, I promise. I believe that because if I didn't, I would have to also question my Judgment on their friends and people.
Speaker 4:That I know you know, I mean.
Speaker 1:Would not respect if they were still in.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, it's March. It's March why. I know deep in my bones. March like the second for me. Marge is like For me.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think of that like that to. I don't know she's Messy, but she's a housewife messy. But you also can't have real friends when your house like when your housewife messy. You can't be friends off camera. That's just true and that's what happens with that. You know, like Teresa, she's a hard one to defend, oh Hard to defend, and Dolores is at the point where she's probably gonna stop doing that. But that's what a loyal person is, that's what a loyal friend does.
Speaker 5:Well, aren't the Gorgas in some kind of new scam? No, which one now? I don't know. Andy said that he was gonna ask Andy about how he feels about the Gorgas being scammers.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, if they're scammers, I mean they would have been caught a lot. I think if they keep skin apparently they're scammers every year they wouldn't be able to keep on scamming. They need to worry about what happened at Jackie's friend's house a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Something scrolled across Page.
Speaker 5:The men of Jersey are just getting to the stage. At Bravo time, joe came out, frank came out. Who's that?
Speaker 1:Oh, Lou, am I allowed to put it on here now? I probably not, right.
Speaker 5:You know I was playing it from people's lives and I didn't get a notification yet that I was in trouble, so I did I was. I was doing a live, just going from other people's lives.
Speaker 1:Hmm and they let you have the option to screen share or no.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I have present on mine. Do you have it on yours? I?
Speaker 1:do I might. I don't know if I'm gonna erase you guys. Tell me. All right, tell me, if you see, because I only I don't feel it very often, so I don't know if it actually works. It probably right. So what should I get Instagram right?
Speaker 5:Yeah, instagram and who's doing, who's live. Right now all about the T podcast real Andy VH, bravo and blaze just went off.
Speaker 1:You guys can see me, right, yeah, we can. I know how to get into my steam yard streamer. Didn't get out it to do other stuff sometimes. All right, I'm on Monday, come on, don't lock me in.
Speaker 2:No, yeah the thing with it was Joe Gorgas comedy thing. Oh, he got scammed out of his comedy thing and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I put it to your screen, krista, I think now, if you share that, then it'll go up there. I.
Speaker 1:Cannot get to stuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somebody took his money he had set up because you know he's trying to be a comedian now. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5:Mean funny. Do you see the window in the back?
Speaker 1:Krista I I trying to find I can't scroll down the hit share screen because my arm yeah, I know. Now I can't even get out of it.
Speaker 5:No, no, no next to my picture in the backstage. I just shared my screen with you and then you spare that. You should be able to see it.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on, let me see what can I get down here I.
Speaker 2:Want pocket size. Yo, gorgas, stop showing his chest. Ah, here we go.
Speaker 5:Oh, that's chop GPT yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank God it wasn't porn, all right, so next your name. What do I do? Hit you see that? Yeah, yeah Is everybody here Can't hear it? Hold on, yeah, so I have a thing to make volume or something. Wait for none can't hear it.
Speaker 5:Oh darn, yeah, they're introducing Joe Gorgia asking questions.
Speaker 1:Maybe we get in trouble if we can hear it.
Speaker 5:No um, it's no music.
Speaker 1:Okay, where am I? You guys can still see me, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, we can see you.
Speaker 1:That's my what. I'm glad you guys can see me, because I'm I don't know where I am. I'm not touching anything. I'm almost up now, oh.
Speaker 2:Shabee left.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she said she has to go back to work or she had to go.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good memory. Um, you can have um a great relationship with your husband's acts. It can be done. I mean, that shows you you're real mature.
Speaker 5:I wish you guys could hear it, sorry.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 2:I hear a little bit of something.
Speaker 5:I can't make it any louder on my end, oh.
Speaker 3:I can't hear anything.
Speaker 2:I didn't think all about the tea was still around. Can you hear it better? No, let me see if I can get it. Okay, I can't hear it?
Speaker 3:Have I seen drowsy? I'm sorry, I just came off and getting my blood drawn so I'm a little tired. Yeah, you guys can't hear it at all. Uh-uh, no, wait, wait, there's something.
Speaker 5:Sorry, you guys couldn't hear it at all, so I just took it off. Okay, they're talking about Joe. Forga is saying why him and melissa are so Good in their relationship.
Speaker 2:You know, I think they're made for one another, made for one another. Him and melissa tell you the truth. It takes true. Yeah, there they are. They put up with one another I mean tolerating and have they have a true friendship? I think Joe and Melissa, though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they seem like they literally have fun together and really enjoy each other is not only bodies company, we're company, exactly, and I think that's like one of the keys to a good relationship is you have to be able to stand be around each other when you're not having sex, exactly.
Speaker 2:She'll be back.
Speaker 3:I thought I was there the whole time.
Speaker 5:Because nobody could hear it. They are still asking questions over there.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should. I think maybe because we're going to be able to watch it again and again, ever and ever. But I'm going to. We have to get in range doctors to put it. But I want to do a live, live where we can watch it. Some of the stuff Maybe later. Yeah, I'm going to. I was actually going to start running this, All right.
Speaker 5:But you know, what I'm finding is that they're well, they're able to go live from this panel again. I don't know how long it'll last, because last time it ended up shutting off, but this is a good one. Yeah, we can stop this one and go back on somebody's and do it live, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll be back later, I'll come look for you all, but I love you guys so much, bren, for coming on. I earlier this week I said, get ready, I need you on there. I appreciate everybody. You guys have stayed on this whole time. We had a really good like people, a lot of people watching us on offer thing, and I really appreciate it because we had a really good conversation and I love that we have different perspectives because we don't we're not a cult, so we don't know, we're not cult people. We don't have to agree and I think we give different perspective all the time and show everybody like there's not just one, because your perceptions are reality, you know right.
Speaker 5:But I appreciate it and I like it because you give us the space to do that, krista, but we all still get to love each other. It's not like you know what I mean. Like that's the point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because we respectfully disagree, and it's like, yeah, that's what we're here for, like exactly, oh everybody wants to be a cult. I have to see her forever. I know everybody. I was like I was really excited. These that everybody came today. I really appreciate it. I love you guys so that's more.
Speaker 2:In a couple of hours. Okay, bye, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Bye, see you. Isn't that crazy, isn't that crazy? Guys, listen, this is what we do. We'll be on here together and then we'll be in the like chat we have all had group chats and then we'll be on the phone with each other because we're all nuts. All right, guys, I love you baby. Thank you guys. All right, I'll be back later. I think, I don't know, maybe on somebody's, but I love you. Guys who started on podcast. I probably didn't let you guys go this long. If I do, I will timestamp everything. So please follow it. Please, all that crap. Subscribe. And I love everybody that's watching. I see you all and I have a talk to you later. And I know, isn't it? It was great. I'm so excited. It was a good one today. All right, I love you guys. Great family it was a great family therapy session and my streams. I'm in my streams.