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Hold on tight as we navigate the high-stakes legal drama surrounding Erica and Tom Girardi. Is Tom Sr. really the puppet master hiding behind a facade of Alzheimer's, or is there more to the story? We're scrutinizing everything, from his mysterious car accident to the suspicious redistribution of wealth. But it's not all about Erica! We're also delving into Sutton's love life, Crystal Kung Minkoff's intriguing family dynamics, and the scandalous business ventures of Jade and PK. Plus, we can't ignore the tension brewing amongst Kyle Richards' family or the heartbreaking tale of Monica's strained relationship with her mother.
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Hey, I'm a mirror, I didn't know you were here, but hello, um, yeah, happy Friday. This is you starting one again. We are back. We started one. We're going to do housewives of Salt Lake. We're doing your housewives of Beverly Hills. I'm going to do Mrs no, not going to do Mrs and Mr Kyle, because that's rude. I'm going to do old Kyle, new Kyle. Right, who said we on? And Salt Lake? I still want to talk about Monica and her mom, and and Whitney and Mary. Hey, man, you're. Who else is there? Guys? I see somebody here, I see people here, but, um, all right. So this is you starting on.
Speaker 1:If you're listening on the podcast side on Spotify, apple and all that, please follow five star rating as well, please, and do a nice review. And if you don't like me and you do listen to a five star rating, like I always say, if you have a like constructive criticism, you can put it in the review. I think I ask everyone I take criticism lately. I'm very good with it, hi, mamiir. Well, thank you guys for being here. So I'll drop the call link right now, just in case even know nobody else wants to call me Anybody. That's here, guys, you can call me at that and we'll discuss.
Speaker 1:But I didn't do any polls this week because I just literally watched Beverly Hills and I just I think that we all agree that, um, that was a little oops, that I just cursed, sorry, demonetized. Anyway, no, guys, I cannot believe. I'm literally gonna get one to a bit like I just need to bring up two things really fast Freaking Mauricio's mom. Like literally with Kyle, I was freaking shocked. Do you guys think that scene was set up or not? Do you think that Kyle has these people asking her about her marriage in front of these cameras? Or do you think these people are really fucking crazy or like really rude, or like I don't know? Like I don't get it, like I'm hey, reality counter. So I'm so glad you made it here too. I see we have a crowd and I'm excited, so all right. Well, yeah, I like all right.
Speaker 1:First of all, rate the episode. I want to know what you guys rate. We're gonna start with Beverly Hills. Okay, rate the episode. I'm literally gonna give it like a freaking five because I feel like we are getting freaking like where are we getting? What are we going? Where are we going, what are we doing? Maybe I should have my notes and figure it out. So, erica, okay, sorry, Erica, erica, okay, this is just me. Now, this is not me actually, this is, I'm gonna say, alleged. I should probably put the banner up. I already, guys, told you Erica is not read, she's not a good person. Okay, she is still hanging up with Tom senior. You guys know who Tom senior is. Right, this is not a legend. You guys can go pay for Dana. Well, please pay Tron, if you wanted the actual full story. Hey, corey, I'll let you up on.
Speaker 4:Okay, I'm calling.
Speaker 1:Good, because I need Erica, Erica, erica. What do you think, corey, about her? Do you? Did you buy her thing with the read or no?
Speaker 4:Obviously like yeah that was so phony and staged.
Speaker 1:Come on, do you think that she? Do you think Kyle's staging people asking her about her marriage? Of course, yeah, I wasn't sure I'm like, but I was like, is Marie C's mom really that rude? She is.
Speaker 4:She is and her parents, his parents are the I don't know. They're divorced, but yet they hang out a lot. They're divorced, Uh huh, They've been divorced for over a decade.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I somebody just came up that I don't, I don't mention, I don't recognize. You're freaking me out All right. Hold on dragon. Hey hey, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm good.
Speaker 1:I asked that. I said I shall receive it. Tell me what do you think about Erica?
Speaker 2:Oh, that was a piece of work, that's like. Monica the mother.
Speaker 3:Turn it off for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel bad. Sorry, she's got this narcissistic sociopathic complex going.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. I just I feel like these scenes are very staged Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Definitely. But um, so we found out the fourth robbery. Okay, what's the reason? Did you hear that? Now are you buying that, this fourth robbery? That she had $10,000 in her pocketbook and it's just I'm buying that it happened. Hmm, think about it.
Speaker 2:I'm not buying it. No one in the right mind wants to have a $4,000 in that 10. I'm sorry 10.
Speaker 4:10. And what bank allows you to take out $10,000?
Speaker 1:None that I know, I think that I like the run. What do you think about Dorit's hair, though? Do you think her dark hair looks good on her? I like it.
Speaker 2:It looks just like a weave. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:You're staying out loud. Oops, you put that. Oh man, you have a smack button over here now.
Speaker 4:Well, no, I wish it looks realer than her her boob job with her cave dim boobs.
Speaker 1:Tori spelling I yeah, that confessional with her Chanel stuff that I'm like three looks so hot to me, she looks so hot, and then she does that confessional with the Chanel stuff and I'm like that killed it for me, okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think Chanel right now is the only designer that's really dealing with her, because she wears a lot of Chanel lately. Yeah, yeah. And since the past they've been really trying to find their foothold in fashion.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know, and for her to be a stylist and all now have we all seen pretty woman Brendan Corden?
Speaker 2:Maybe in a while.
Speaker 4:I watched it last month, Brendan.
Speaker 1:Do you think that he was like? Do you think PK's mind was like where do you like? Do you think he was doing? I don't know, what do you think about it? I'm speaking.
Speaker 4:He was like he was low key shading her. Yeah, he was low key shading her. And Kyle hit it on the nose. Yeah, she was laughing the whole time eating that fruit. Okay, Now what about?
Speaker 1:what about? What would she say? Kyle, okay, this is what Kyle laughing. So when Kyle it brings her there and she's in the car with her and Kyle's like acting on, she, you know Kyle's acting stupid. I'm like I don't know if it bothers anybody else, maybe it's just me that gets on my nerves. But when she got there and she was, doreen was clearly getting upset and I now this is the thing I get, like that I'll get very like, tell me what's going on with them. And she starts laughing, kyle starts laughing at her and, freak, it's more upset and I'm like I understand, like that was getting on my nerves.
Speaker 1:I'm like Kyle, what is so funny? It was weird, like why are you laughing? And you're like I don't know, she's like, she's like laughing at it and you seem to read having, like you know, a panic attack. I and I'm I understand. I don't really believe her PTSD, but I understand in the moment she had no idea what was going on and her friend who, so she's shading her in the confessional is going Brisa would never know. There's obviously shit going on between them, right, he came out and all kinds of shit.
Speaker 4:He is. I was like oh, he's shady little puffball.
Speaker 1:There's no way. They're friends. There's no more. And when Kyle and Dorita are in that car having that conversation, that moment where she kissed, when Dorita kissed Kyle, marisa was back. I know Kyle's had to have seen that. Would you not bring that up? Why aren't we talking about that? Why aren't they?
Speaker 4:talking. When Marisa took our raid and looked at it salatiously, I'm like what has he done with that braid? I know, it's just crazy and and I don't know. Fine, okay, those two are separated Dorita and PK and Kyle and Marisa. That's because they found out they were sleeping with each other, allegedly.
Speaker 1:I know, but he's also okay. Now Kyle also this is allegedly, but not really, because I could get the receipts, but I don't want to ruin somebody's money like paywall, but that that else to Jean girl last year. Kyle says now this is another thing. Kyle says she's like I wanted space or I wanted this, and hey, he's too busy with work. Remember how she wasn't allowed to film his new show with him, mm-hmm, because of that, bren, I think she's acting out because of that and that's why she's going. I'm doing what I want now. I'm doing what I want.
Speaker 4:Ha ha Love won't let her be on that other show, but still, that's a logical conclusion. I've never seen that other show, though.
Speaker 1:Apparently it's real successful, right. But then you have PK coming in and going, but PK's mad because Mariso basically like left and they were supposed to do this together. They have competing shows and you know, not for nothing, but like they both were away filming. Pk was away filming, mariso is away filming. So do I think that? Do I think that Jareet really wants to leave PK? I don't really think so. I think something bad happened. I think that she, like you said, I think there was a little you know this right and I obviously have a relationship. So it was just this which makes things even worse to me, because then you just don't. You just don't respect your friend, you don't if you're going to have a situation where you're allowed to cheat like I think Mariso was allowed to cheat, as long as it wasn't in Kyle's face.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to eff it, but I'm just going to eff anybody Like. I'm going to eff a friend, screw it, I'll smell Kyle's. Then I'm going to say how Eric is the hottest other housewife I would sleep with, like, and then I'll let you know I'm going to laugh at Jack's getting you know when Erica screamed at Jack's, cursed at Jack's last season.
Speaker 4:I was so disappointed.
Speaker 2:Right, that was I.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I said before, I wanted to be a multi-million dollar real estate agent, selling mansions and stuff. That was my goal when.
Speaker 2:Brandon was four and a half.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, you were two and a half. I got my. I studied to get my real estate license from called Well Banker, right, so that was my goal. That was my goal. My my real estate instructor and Maricio were my heroes. Yes, because she was a black woman who made it to that level in Maryland and there's not a lot of women, period, selling estates, let alone women of color. And I was beyond floored when I found out that Maricio was Kyle's husband. Because I thought, because I also watched. I religiously, I watched this thing. Byron Allen has this TV show. Byron Allen has called great, great home, great homes, beautiful homes and great estates. Okay, I would see Maricio. That's where I would see Jade Jade from Coldwell Banker I can't think of her last name right now. She's a older woman who's killing it, selling estates and her daughter is now her business partner. And that's where I first saw Maricio.
Speaker 5:And.
Speaker 4:I followed my father, his father is a wonderful agent and developer. Maricio's father I didn't know that, yes.
Speaker 1:But, that number after she met the Hilton's.
Speaker 4:I think his father was a developer before then, so why would he even need? He was trying to. I think he was trying to get a foothold because you know, they're not. They're like Turkish or something. They're not really Mexican, they are something. Right, yeah, or yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, they're like Turkish and German or something like that. Yeah, so that was the more the family fled the Holocaust and wound up in Mexico. That's how he was born, in Mexico. So they're not ethnically Mexican.
Speaker 2:So they're the more people.
Speaker 4:No, they're not. No, babe, they're not of more descent. What I'm saying is his mother mentioned something about them being Turkish and German, because when they went to Germany with Erica Kyle mentioned something about it.
Speaker 1:Right, you're right, I remember that.
Speaker 4:I mean there was a minor prince that his mother was trying to hook up. What's her face? That was married to grandma Camille with oh oh yes, and he was a minor German prince and he was related to Mauricio and them to his mother. Now Mauricio's father could be half Mexican, I'm not sure. It's a little murky.
Speaker 4:You know his ethnicity is a little murky, but yeah, mauricio was the king. As far as I was concerned, he was the king. He was up and coming and that's all I saw on like real estate shows was Wow. And then I found out he was married to Kyle and I was like, oh, that's her husband, okay.
Speaker 2:See Now go ahead, guys. If I had rent that route, I would have been a rich man by now.
Speaker 1:Listen, the curse of 2008,. Corey, what would you do Like? Probably in a business around then, right?
Speaker 4:I had stopped then because I knew it at, Brendan was diagnosed with autism. So then I was like I don't have the time to devote to it because I have to make sure he gets services and things he needs. So I had to take another route. I probably would have been top in Maryland.
Speaker 1:It was pretty, you probably would have and, honestly, if you could have got In 2008, when they're living in, everything crashed. Whoever made it after that is still there. It took me out because I did mortgages. It took me out. You go from closing eight a year I mean eight a month to 80 year. You know walls change and everything, so I don't know. I've said this before about Erica. Now I don't know why they're all talking about it yet, but Tom Sr, tom Jr, her son's dad, is a big ringer in Vegas and she has been with him allegedly I'm gonna have to say allegedly here funneling money from Tom's already through him for Erica's Right.
Speaker 4:Because no one's going to it that, not only that for the legal stuff too.
Speaker 1:I think this goes back way to back then, because why would you leave this 85 year old man at the bottom of a cliff or not tell the doctors he was unconscious unless you wanted to unalive him? Exactly, he's the middleman, he's the only one that can tell on Tom Sr about what the three of them did, right, exactly, he's pooping himself. He's got nothing to lose, like they're like. Well, who cares? He's like you know he was the crook. You know whatever we did, right? That's how I feel.
Speaker 1:And also, if you're, when you have a robbery, you don't call your son, the cop that's not in that town, to come off duty, to come get the robber Again. Like what the heck is that? And nobody's down. Erica, the real police are you know like how come nobody's questioned her about this? It's just, I don't know why the 30s now, maybe they're, maybe they're waiting, oh, my brother and all, maybe they're waiting for, like, maybe they're waiting for like the bankruptcy stuff to be over and like all that. You know what I mean. Yeah, my mirror, I did, and I don't know what. How I feel about this. We talked about three to like 10. She goes to the bank to get 10,000. But this is after she's been robbed three times and she's got such bad. Why, listen you, you, you got robbed four times. I'm sorry, I just find that very. I think the odds of that are probably in the billions, right, obviously set up because that's not that happening or not, it's very, very like four times.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think I think that the the the one where she's shopping and they take her purse. I'm sorry, I don't care who you are, what woman is not paying attention to her purse while she's shopping with that much money, with $10 in my purse, I'm not lit.
Speaker 1:If I put my purse in the shopping cart, I say, bryn, please watch this, or you're like wrap my arm in the thing and then you know how you're carrying your. Wrap my arm in it. You know what I mean Exactly.
Speaker 4:And then, if I have to use my arm, I'm like, don't walk away from this, and I don't I just I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think where her angle would be to lie about it, except for sympathy. But she said that they saw these people following her and I'm like man, could she have set somebody up to follow her, to do that Like I don't know?
Speaker 4:I don't know about that because there's no insurance. True, true, you know, I just think she's. I think she's just exaggerating and making this up, because I don't what, what person, I don't care what neighborhood you're in, I don't care what store you're in who leaves $10,000 in cash in your purse. I know, I know.
Speaker 1:At Christmas time.
Speaker 2:Nobody, I know.
Speaker 4:At Christmas time, I don't need to keep my money in my purse.
Speaker 1:Like I really I'm liking to read for going after Erica.
Speaker 4:But, did she have to cultured appropriate to do it though.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 4:I mean really.
Speaker 1:No, no, they could have had that comment, like they did at their little picnic, or what did they do?
Speaker 4:A little picnic, a catered picnic that no one eats anything.
Speaker 1:They never eat.
Speaker 2:That's still because this is the heck out of me.
Speaker 4:I can tell you this Si would not last in Beverly Hills. She's like where's the food? Where's the food?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't think I don't think I know All right.
Speaker 1:So what do you guys think about Sutton and her dating situation? Sutton's never got to get a man. She's odd, right, she's an odd dog. She's odd.
Speaker 4:And she's a very common dog. She's a dog and she's a dog and she's a dog and she's a dog and it is. Sutton is one of those annoying people. In her older age she probably wasn't that annoying when she was a ballet dancer, but she's a ballet dancer. He's a, yeah, she has. She has ballet dancer feet, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's you know. I thought the kitty cat sweater was cute. That was the whole neuropathy thing.
Speaker 4:I don't know, that was a little bit TMI. He was like oh, I guess I'm gonna be getting anything from her.
Speaker 1:And the fact that she makes or not makes, the fact that she heard her I can't even say it because it's so amazing to me 300 grand a month for the rest of her life. But you know that I was like want to get married again. I wouldn't, oh, I wouldn't, but I would be like I don't know what you're gonna do. You know, how many times do we see that than that, that we assume that these men are with her for their?
Speaker 4:money, or you know. You know I would be the modern version of Lance Devereux. I would have lovers, honey, just a lovers. I love me too. Right, you gotta know he's never seen golden girls. You have to show him voting girls. I'm gonna have to strap him down so you can watch it.
Speaker 1:I am literally I'll see it, I'll see it. I'm obsessed with um Crystal's brother. Is that cute, he's cute, he is a cutie. Okay, and I'm all for this. Pop star, k-pop guys Married and didn't.
Speaker 4:I mean, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1:They call it K-pop, k-pop. Yeah, I mean, I should look it up, like we should probably look it up and see.
Speaker 4:I think it's all considered K-pop, because I think it's like all under the same umbrella, because I've seen um on um Bling Empire, um, the girl who had to talk her man into marrying her after having two girls in a pop person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I can't. I'm trying to think of her name right now I can't think of her name, but her parents had like a lot of money anyway and her parents didn't want her saying and all of that. Yeah, I love Lening Empire.
Speaker 2:That's another story I love that Um the K-pop band. Bts Mm hmm.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but I mean I like their music. I don't know. I know too. It's starting with the like her Obe, and the girl who's like why are you so single? What are you talking about? And she's like I want a man, I don't want a man to lead. I understand what she means by that because, like she said, she lost her power. But I mean, no man wants, no man wants to be run by a woman. I don't think like the way she wants to do it, but, like reality connoisseur said, I can't, you know, just imagine dating her. It's just, she's a good hey, aaron, she's a good friend.
Speaker 4:Right, like I think yeah, she is.
Speaker 1:I think I'm right, you're right, you're right, that's all.
Speaker 4:I don't mind, you know, because she's not because she's not ever going to get married ever. I wouldn't, she can't, she'll lose that money, right? I don't think it's the fact she'll lose the money. I just don't think she wants to be her, her life to be run like her husband. Man has her life for like what? 13, 20 years or whatever? All of the money we're married.
Speaker 1:I do feel bad that she wants to prove something to her ex and she's like some issues that she has because I get it, but like she has to prove herself by now to him, like you know what I mean, like I don't even think he's paying attention to her really. He's. She's not going to get what you want out of him. She's not going to get, he's never probably going to say that to her?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, I don't think he really cares what she's doing with her life. No, no, why don't you just go ahead? And we all know she's filthy?
Speaker 3:rich on a filthy hilton level.
Speaker 4:So why don't she just ride her horse and just chill?
Speaker 1:We don't really care, Exactly Like she could share her life with somebody. Like you said, you know a friend I love her too who cares. I mean I love her and Garcelle being like really good friends because you know that they're actually friends, Like you can look at friends or you know that they're fake.
Speaker 4:You know that all the time when you're with me and sudden gives off that I'm not really racist but I'm racist adjacent vibe you know my mom worked for a lot of made Italians. She was in the horse racing industry and you know they would say, oh no, you're not one of those blacks. Uh, you know she gives off that to me, Wow yeah.
Speaker 1:You, just, you sounded just like an older in my family, mm.
Speaker 4:Hmm, and the way that when you just said that I that never has gone down to me before until you said that, yeah and I, I had turned down some money. Um, her boss was gonna give me and she smack me in the head. She's like you, don't do that, take the money, take the money, say thank you, thank you. Thank you, thank you, man, that much is assured when I know that rule and I was eight and I had no idea.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say like but yeah, I was eight and I had no idea.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, eight, don't turn down that rule. You know, turn that money for a neighbor.
Speaker 4:That's one of the one survivor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got smacked in the head and I was like, oh okay, sorry, don't gonna, don't, please, don't me. You see these shoes with her family, don't you feel that we get so much more out of?
Speaker 4:her head, get so much more out of her when she's with, is with her family. You know her house, their, her, her housekeeper. Oh my god she is. She is reality. That go because I really, I genuinely like crystal. Me and Gumball love crystal, and we were the only ones that loved crystal. I kept forgetting about her but okay, and I really think crystal is also filthy, rich, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lying king rich.
Speaker 4:And did you see how Kyle took her new? What was it, kelly it was. It was like Kelly Green crocodile, yeah, and she was like, oh, oh, she was salivating over it. Like she wouldn't like she wouldn't have been offered a spec, because that looks like a special request, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Like she has been offered special requests. Okay, she, she's. She's the one that she's never turned down for her to a year quota bags. Okay, I don't know how offset is getting three quota bags a year for Cardi B? I really don't. She got three quota bags for her birthday and I don't know how she got three quota bags unless he bought one from a reseller. Yeah, no one, I don't care how famous you are, you have two quota bags a year from Hermes and she got three for her birthday. And I'm like now, how did he work that out?
Speaker 2:Not unless he bought a soccer.
Speaker 4:Not unless he used one of Cardi's own quota.
Speaker 1:I was expecting that she probably had one, all right, and one from.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean, yeah he probably, she probably got offered one and he told her to hold off on it and he told the store he was going by it, but on her Profile or whatever, but yeah. But Crystal makes a lot of sense when she's around her husband, yes, yes, he likes up. You can tell that. I know, I know, I know Gabor was saying that because she worked as a receptionist at a escort agency.
Speaker 4:That that's how she met her husband, but I think they, they are intellectually matched and that's what I. He may be a little goofy, he's not. He's not, he's not sexy. Yes, he has money, but the part that he has touched in her is her intellect and I think when a man can touch your intellect, that becomes sexy. I believe that overcome any kind of looks.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely, absolutely. I mean I'm telling you right now, like my husband, I think my husband is sexy as me in the world, like, but he's like, he's so plain, he's the opposite of me, but like there's so much, there's something about him when I'm right, you know what I mean. Like I can see Rob being that sexy guy in bed, just because you know, like it's always the quiet ones, it's what you don't even mean, it's always.
Speaker 1:But I think, like they do, they take, they bring the best out in each other and he's goofy, like you said. He's goofy with the cameras around and they joke and like she does, like I really hope we can dig more into her that family life and or so.
Speaker 4:Because, or so, I'm so mad at Jade right now.
Speaker 2:Because he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1:He's been doubling down on that yeah.
Speaker 4:I think. I think Jade is trying to manipulate his mother while she's filming to get what he wants. Jack doesn't care. All Jack's wants. That has forgotten. He has forgotten about his bullying thing. All he wants to be is his wife. He is with his girlfriend, that's all. He can't come out, and I think if Jade finds himself a girlfriend, he will not be mopey, true.
Speaker 1:He needs something to do, sure.
Speaker 4:And I think he's mad. His mom has found something. His older brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:He found something, and now Jack has something and he has nothing and he's on the outs. Everybody has something interesting to talk about, even good and even his dad has moved on and got himself a nice lady. Now that Jade is the only one on the outs, and I don't like the fact that Garcelle is making herself out to be a quote unquote bad mom. I don't like that. Either way, it's not a bad mom.
Speaker 1:What is her relationship? Isn't the relationship pretty good with her ex-husband now? Yeah, now it is.
Speaker 4:Even with his boo thing. She has a nice relationship with.
Speaker 1:Do you think like as like something she could talk to him about and be like you know, what do you think is going on with him and him not throw that in her face or make her feel like she's going to hope not because I would hope she would talk about that, because she's really struggling with what he said and maybe, if Mike is, it means I think his name is Mike right.
Speaker 1:Mm hmm, it's as well. But you know I agree with you, You're fine, you know you're not like he was. You know I agree with everything you're saying. Like I think that she would like she would feel better about it and she wouldn't be like kicking herself when she's down. I feel so bad about that. Yeah, Like I think we could. It was like a pin could drop when he said that like the whole world just stuff, and was like oh God, he's been like he's been manipulative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's what 15.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty much. He's being very manipulative at 15. Brendan was a was a, but I was going to say he was a jerk at 15. And I will agree with Sutton Teenage boys are Turks. I was going to say that again Out, because it's where they start to smell themselves. Right, they want to be a man but not quite.
Speaker 1:I did cry when Berlin sang. That's when Berlin played for Dury and PK. I love that song.
Speaker 4:I do too. I hate the movie but love the song.
Speaker 1:I cried I love yeah, I was shocked it was really Berlin. I'm like, oh, that's right, because I forget he. He was like what a music person, producer person, mm, hmm, or he had into real estate.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, why is he not just good with being boy George's George Michael, Boy George George man. I think he got jealous of Marie Siew's life a little bit.
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know, no, I remember how he started, like he was like they were hanging out and he was like I'm going to start losing weight. You want to be like another hot husband or something. It just to me. It screams grifters. They scream grifters to me. I didn't do these businesses. You know, that's kind of like Louis Barrelles. You do these these short term things and they don't work out, do they? Do you make some money and then you spend it and you have nothing left, like, and you go on again like. You know what I mean. Mm, hmm, you're not ever just insane Like, or maybe they have money away.
Speaker 4:I would show you know what, though, with PK it's kind of different, because PK's most of PK's life is in London.
Speaker 1:So is that why we don't know where, like with his?
Speaker 4:I don't know If you have hands and too many pots. I wish I've yeah, he has his hands and too many pots. I think I don't. I don't think he has what it takes in this and this time period to do musical management, because the industry has changed so much since he was doing it. I think he should just stick to real estate and leave it and leave the other stuff alone, because real estate doesn't change that much.
Speaker 4:But, there are too many independent artists and I think Boy George is an independent artist now. He deals with a record company. I think he puts his own stuff out and that's kind of hard to deal with.
Speaker 1:But why wouldn't he? Don't you think he should have a nest egg where he's good for the rest of his life? I mean, look, I mean he should, he should. I'm sure he made millions and millions of dollars, right, he lost millions too in 2000. What's going to say the real estate is not always you know what I mean. You can go, you could really lose it. 2008 happened, and it was nobody's fault. Lending walls changed, rates went down, rates went up and everybody refinanced, everybody was done. But the fact that he I don't even know why they got divorced or separated Did they have a reason? Do we have a reason from them?
Speaker 4:When she was talking to Erica she was saying he was spending too much time over in the UK and not enough time with her.
Speaker 1:But see, that's an easy fix, that's not a divorce.
Speaker 4:I think her and Maricio got fined out allegedly and in my own opinion I also think somebody got pulled over, because why did he not tell Dorit until the next day? Because there was a woman in the car with him, exactly.
Speaker 1:Oh, the police report said something else, guess what. They police let him sit down until he's sobered up also, and then blew it, and then let him blow clean, or whatever he did. They let him sober up, so why wouldn't they just say there was no woman in the car? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4:Exactly.
Speaker 1:What's one? More corrupt lie for him. Here's some money. Oh, I'm going to call Maricio, he'll give you. You know what I mean. Maricio probably paid them off, probably Diane, why you?
Speaker 2:calling him.
Speaker 1:For me it's like okay. But then also with Shannon Bedore, like I know she got charged with DWI and misdemeanor but she should have got charged with what she did to those people she got her patient. I know she's not even ordered to like I don't know, she's going out patient, but you know what they should do.
Speaker 4:They need to put that breathalyzer thing on her car.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. You know what You're right and I really believe she's. That's not the first time she's drawn. There's no way. Come on, even I, even I did it, for, like I'm not you know, it's not like she's had dinner and had an extra drink or two and had it fell right out, got pulled over. She's drunk. She drank all of them.
Speaker 4:She drank. What is it? Don Julio. She drank a whole big old bottle of Don Julio and drove with the dog in the car. Come on.
Speaker 2:And if she broke her arm?
Speaker 1:how hard? How hard does she have to ask it? Poor Archie? Because if she was hard she broke her arm in that accident. He was thrown around that car. He had to have it. He's not wearing a female, archie, and he's an older dog and then the people's house.
Speaker 4:Did she pay for the damage?
Speaker 1:I don't know why are they not present? I feel like she is not taking those cops over there, are not making them take something's up.
Speaker 4:Well you know, you know Pete Davidson did did the same thing. He ran into somebody's home and they were talking about making him do time for dad or put a property damage and reckless endangerment or something. He was drunk out of his head Allegedly when he hit them people's car or house. How come he's not doing anything? How come he must have paid them off? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that happened because he didn't get. I heard nothing. I didn't know that even happened.
Speaker 4:I heard that they were going to try and make him do time and then all of a sudden it just went away. Yep.
Speaker 2:I have a question. It's just him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you have a question, Brian.
Speaker 2:Is this a girl that the car, like she, was faster than the furious?
Speaker 1:Yes, I also think she was like freaking out about John. She's probably in her, like having that, you know, in drinking because you know it's a mistake, taking a left instead of a right. You know where the guys broke and tailed. She ran, she hit her car or tried to hide.
Speaker 4:He tried to make the dog walk.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I know I went with a broken arm. Oh, was your arm not hurt Like she had to hurt that? That hurts. So are you? Okay, I'm going. I'm sorry, I'm going for it. Yeah, I'm just walking the dog here. I'm going for a walk, I'm going for a dog, exactly, and, like I said, he's an older dog. He's 15 years old, I think. 15? Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, archie's real old. He doesn't watch much of. He doesn't watch much of OC. Yeah, he just got into housewives.
Speaker 2:Didn't that dog be resting somewhere?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he should, he should, he shouldn't have been in the car period.
Speaker 2:No, he shouldn't have been in the car period.
Speaker 1:No, he shouldn't have been. John should have never let her drive either. Why did John let her drive? Because John doesn't really care Exactly. He probably just wanted her to leave because she's not allowed to sleep there, but she's got to take her dog Now. The thing with Kyle I want to give the before we get on to OC or Salt Lake City Road. The thing with Kyle Marisa like I said this last week, she is. I feel like now she's acting out because she wasn't invited. I think that I think I also believe Elsa Jean got pregnant. Marisa was stressed that pregnant, I believe in the beginning of last year, and Brandon and Brandy is her best friend. So Brandy, of course, is, you know, never keeping her head up, but nobody's bringing this up yet. But she didn't keep it, obviously. And Elsa Jean is beautiful, like I. Really I made that theme with Elsa Jean and Dorito and the hemisclator in the middle, like hemisclator can be, like he has the type and it's not Kyle.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, it's not. His type, is not Like. That's why she's so insecure.
Speaker 1:So insecure because she is acting like a child. I'm going to do what I want. And then she tells his parents on him that he has tattoos. I'm so confused. He's confused, but he's like wait, we have these fights and everything. Kyle, you know that what I've done, why are you throwing me under the bus on the camera? On camera is what he's thinking.
Speaker 4:Because you know, what. Because his mother. I'm surprised his mother is back on the show because she is a Trump supporter. They banned her from the show. I didn't know that. Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:Are they like? Are you and Kyle get along?
Speaker 4:or Her and Kyle used to get along until 2016.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord, the day everything changed.
Speaker 4:Yes, when he was elected, her mother-in-law kept spouting all of this stuff all over. This was before Kyle blocked me all over Twitter and I was still talking to Kim on Twitter every last one of a while and she was just saying some horrific stuff and that's when you notice she never appeared.
Speaker 1:I forgot all about his parents, but I don't understand why, if they have this relationship, why would they confront her on TV about their relationship?
Speaker 4:Because his mother was glad to be back on TV. Do you think she did it for a moment? Ms Estella, honey loves the camera. She loves the camera. That's why Paul Nassif did her facelift. Honey, she wanted to be all over. She loved being on the camera.
Speaker 1:This is why I need to worry about it Because I'm real good with the Jersey stuff. I know that you're good with this stuff Because that's the stuff I kind of don't. You know what I mean. Like I hear about it, but you know, now their parents aren't together, Do you think? Why is Mariso hiding the fact? Do you think he's mad at the fact that Kyle's acting like a baby? Or he's mad that she told his parents that he had a tattoo?
Speaker 4:You know Mariso is Jewish and if you are a religious Jewish person not a city, but religious Jewish person you are not supposed to have tattoos. Now I understand the real. You cannot be buried in a Jewish cemetery if you have tattoos. I did not know that.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm really not.
Speaker 1:I'm like why, are they?
Speaker 2:doing that.
Speaker 4:That's why you don't want to have a tattoo. No, you don't put a tattoo on a Bentley, my dear oh, don't put a bumper sticker on a Bentley or Rolls Royce.
Speaker 1:Oh you don't need that I have. I guess I'm a Porsche or something. I'm a Porsche.
Speaker 4:Great.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I just like I don't know Kyle was being an asshole to his family, but again like I don't know if she set any scenes up because she wants people. She says she doesn't want to talk about it, but you know that she does.
Speaker 4:Oh, of course she does, because her whole storyline, her whole storyline is bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. The rumors have been around for years about Elsa Jean. These are not new things. It's just pregnant and it's been, and I you know a lot of stuff has been thrown in Kyle's face and like again, like that's what you get for being boring and taking the wrong side of history, with Erica taking Renneth side going after your sister. If you're so, kyle, if you're so anxious and so afraid of your sister, why would you talk shit on her own camera If you don't want her to call you screaming? What are you doing? Like exactly? And did you see the daughters? The daughters? Like your mom. You're in trouble, mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They are they. They most really like I don't know something. Kyle, they're all looking at her. Hell of nuts right now.
Speaker 4:Because they all know the truth and they're trying to hide it.
Speaker 1:If you know that daughters know the truth, she's so weird about it too, though, like she's just acting strange to me, exactly Like just sit on the couch and go, I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to do it, love being, love being, love being. I'm like, if you fucking say love being one more time, I'm going to love being him in the face. Stop calling her love.
Speaker 4:I know that, you know, because we all know the fact that Love being, that he ain't called her love being in a couple of years. We all know that. Yeah, because he used to be at to a point where he couldn't keep his hands off of her. He kept knocking her up so all of a sudden he didn't move on. Now I think he has moved on since season four. I bet you what was which season? When her and in Vanderpump fell out because she says here's the young lady, that they all talking about the young girl, and he's having lunch with Portia. Oh, what season was that? That that was a season. Cards on the them came. That was season what? Four, three or four, there are four.
Speaker 1:I'm not watching, so I'm not sure, yeah, I changed friends name to love being. I can't get it to go up there for some reason. Did you see me change your name, brian? I made you love being it Show up. I changed this. I'm like am I allowed to do that? Oh, my God, I can. There is me, bad Catholic. Ok, yeah, so I just I. I can't, kyle, I can't with you. You these, right, they've been around these. This is all crazy to me. I just today I had the revelation like she's doing this because she wasn't invited to, she wasn't allowed to film, according to Bravo. I get it, but like she also probably wasn't invited either.
Speaker 4:You know it was supposed to be a thing for him and his daughters.
Speaker 1:Yes, so here she goes, hanging out by there. Over there she's hanging out with Morgan Wade, which she's not going to. Actually she's her half sister. I'm convinced it's her half sister.
Speaker 1:That's the possibility, yeah, but she's like you know what he means. So she's out doing all this. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about me so she can forget that, the fact that her daughters and her husband are having a great old, good old time over there wherever doing their show. But, like I, also doesn't want to go to Portugal. He has to go to Portugal, yeah, to do the opening. But again to me, though, he's got hell of money if he's doing all this. He's open in agencies in every country, everywhere, right, yeah, he has to do that before the, before the US government gets him.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 4:OK, Because remember, you know he did this with Equatorial Guinea and you're not supposed to be doing that.
Speaker 2:I don't even know that You're not I don't know, what that means.
Speaker 4:This he he did. There's this country in Africa called Equatorial Guinea, ok, and Portia dated the son of the of the dictator and an actress who played in booty call I can't think of her name right now was, is a, is a family friend of said dictator and the dictator sent her to to repossess Portia's Rolls Royce that the son gave her and to tell Portia to back off the sun, and Portia, yes, from Atlanta. And so Mauricio sold this man a house that he was having remodeled and he, he was touring it with Ken and Lisa and baby, baby Portia I think she was like I was going to say how, or then, and she was like for then. And so he took that said house of Legitly and, in Malibu, told the dude from the dictatorship and the son that it was only worth a certain amount of millions and he doubled the price, sold it for $2. He sold it for double and him and his other business partner by the name of Mauricio coincidentally, they made a profit of over $10 million, I think so by him doing business with this dictator who were in sanctions under US law.
Speaker 4:Sanction this dictator. He wasn't supposed to do business or sell, but not supposed to do business in the US. That's another reason why he sent that actress to snatch the car from Portia. And it's hard to back off. And not only that. The boy, the man's sister, was just. She was considered to be the richest woman in the world. She was just jailed for stealing for stealing money from her country. Their father was stealing money from the country, so the funds that he bought the house with and the Rolls Royce with was stolen money from their country. Wow, so there was these text messages that was that were they couldn't be found in the cloud between Mauricio and the dictator's son and the dictator's son, they, the federal government, finally found them. So now the case that he was free and clear. So now the case has been reopened and they're going to trial. Yeah, didn't you?
Speaker 1:have to pay that he had been paying that off or something. Wasn't he paying that he?
Speaker 4:asked you to pay, I think either 30 million or 10 million, and he's worth 100 in some way. I think it's worth 120 million. I think, man, that's why he keeps opening these agencies, because he's got to replace the money he's got. He's going to have to pay the government. Yeah, I mean he's making.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I don't even want to, I'm not even a guest, I'm not a money he's making, but like wow, but is it just him that?
Speaker 4:owns it. It's got to be owns it with a partner, a partner to him and another agent he I can't think of his name right now, but he's balding White gentleman and he took him. They both left Hilton Highland and started the agency together. Now he does have a business partner and then he also took on a couple of other business partners From that left Hilton Highland and they became so I think it's a partnership of four agents.
Speaker 1:I mean okay.
Speaker 4:And I can tell you their names on that and he is not one of them. No, PK is definitely not one of them. Definitely they were going to partner on a TV show on about London real estate.
Speaker 1:And Marysio blocked out back out. Right, that is thing.
Speaker 4:I think so.
Speaker 1:Now why you're doing that. Um, let's wrap up this real quick because I do want to talk a little bit about Lake, but because of Monica and her mom. Um, yeah, but Marysio caught, like I I don't know how far into this like we're going to go in the storyline. I'm still in the thing that I don't. I think they need their own show because this is ridiculous that we can take up so much. I don't want to spend a lot of time on Kyle and Marysio because we just like, come on, there's a lot there. You're going to take up everybody else's storyline. You know we can't get into crystals much. We get like one scene and then like her birthday, but like that's what them, that's not what she's her real self, he brought up his older bit, his old business partners.
Speaker 4:They're not he must have because they're not in the lineup. They're not in the company lineup.
Speaker 1:Is his daughter is her. Wait a minute, I think I would might own one of the agency.
Speaker 4:She. I think Farrah is a partner now. Good for her.
Speaker 1:She's the one is she, does she? The one has a different dad, or yeah, okay, she's from Kyle's first husband. I forgot that Kyle had a first husband. Something's up. But now did everybody watch Salt Lake. Did you guys watch Salt?
Speaker 4:Lake. Yeah, I watched it before change.
Speaker 1:Did you? What do you think about Monika and her mom that that broke that dinner broke my heart. It was just a piece of work.
Speaker 4:Her mom what Her mom's? A piece of work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I don't understand. I guess I Monika said it, but I can't even like when Heather, I was really happy that Heather called her and pulled her aside after the party because I felt so bad for her. You know it's one thing like your mother is being an asshole to you and you're like you feel like you know. However, she explained how she felt, but then have all the her mom that helped her with those kids, you know, grabbing all those kids running out of a birthday party or whatever that is. You know the kids don't want to go and then to take her vehicle, take her vehicle. What in the effing world is wrong with you? You're not going to become a housewife that way, katie. We're not going to like you.
Speaker 1:We're going to think you're an asshole, bren, I literally.
Speaker 1:Would you ever speak like? She called her daughter an MF? Her, I mean I, I I'm sorry, I love Monica, I'm upset. I love Monica, I love her. I like her because once she's Jen Shaw, so you know she did that to Jen and I love that fact. I don't like how Jen Shaw approached this woman who had four young kids and tried to get her to be a criminal like her. Thank God, monica's like no bitch. Sorry I, but that made me happy that she's not. You know she's not a Jen Shaw, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank goodness.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna back you guys Okay.
Speaker 1:Did you leave the friendly love me? Yeah, he said he'd be right back. Love being. Do you say with the grandmother? Okay, yeah, I think the grandmother, I believe, like I really, Monica, laid it out, you have, you've been, you know, your mother hurt you Like I guess that's the grandmother with the Portuguese grandma right, Mm-hmm. Does she hurt? Corey? What do you got? I know you got to say what do you? What's going on in your brain?
Speaker 4:Like I said, it's, it's a you're, you're, you're, you're, you're in the right, you know direction. I feel like you have it's a bad, it's a bad circle, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've never wanted to work a girl.
Speaker 4:So she treated her like crap and so in turn because that's the only way her mom knows how to parent is how her mother parent her. She did it to her own daughter.
Speaker 2:Does it not have a word for?
Speaker 4:that yeah, generational curves.
Speaker 1:Do you think? And then Monica has a good relationship with the grandmother. I think right.
Speaker 4:I think she said she did.
Speaker 1:Because, you know, I just I could see exactly what Monica was saying when she was saying all that to her mother, like, and then, you know, I'm surprised, her mother said we need therapy. I didn't think her mother would say that. I don't think her mother thinks anything's wrong.
Speaker 4:She doesn't, and that's just scary. She really doesn't.
Speaker 1:She's like get over it and like poor Monica. You know, it's not like I mean I don't fight with my mom, but I feel certain way. I feel the same way. I feel very like like I don't exist, kind of. But like you know, one of the easiest thing for me to do is remove myself, right, and I guess Monica doesn't, can't. I don't know like why she just doesn't remove herself from her mom's life, especially now after she went on social media and dog that shit out of her daughter. Let me see if I can get it. Did you guys see what she did? She's doubling down on the fact that she left her when she oh my God, she left her when she was 12 years old. She borrowed from a stranger's house basically not stranger, but I moved to a new school.
Speaker 1:A different state. You're 12 years old, a new school with people that aren't your family, and then the mother doesn't think that. She said, oh my God, to me that is just a bandit on the highest levels, Like it is.
Speaker 4:It's also abuse.
Speaker 2:I believe, yes, emotional.
Speaker 1:Very, You're right, Brandon, because the way she talks to her daughter, you know that that's not. That's happens a lot.
Speaker 2:It's my mother. It's being normal, but you know what? It's not a daughter relationship. That's not normal.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the people in the restaurant was getting their life I was. I was when they were arguing and her mom was being so loud, oh man. And Manica was trying to keep it at the table and the wait staff was just living. They were living their best life. Let's go over here and see what they're going to say now, Because they see the cameras.
Speaker 2:So yeah, they do.
Speaker 1:The way that Monica is moms acting on social media. It's like she wants to be a housewife or something being a messy housewife to her daughter.
Speaker 4:Exactly. My mom would have never apologized or taken the side to another person who has done her daughter wrong. Right.
Speaker 2:And her mom wouldn't.
Speaker 4:And I would do that to Brendan. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That is crazy, and it's so. And then to say you abandoned me. When I was, my father left. I was like, oh man, no wonder. Like, thank God she didn't go the other way and not want to be like unfortunately, I didn't want to have kids, I was afraid, I didn't want them to go through. I just didn't want to go through what I went through and I didn't want to damage my kids, all that crap. But thank God, she has four daughters that she wants to and she can see I'm definitely like, you're not going to damage my daughters, I'm breaking this curse. You can see, I don't know, I got the vibe from the grandma that she was just a grumpy old lady, a grumpy old lady. But she's probably very resentful, don't really like her daughter. Like Monica said, she didn't really want her. So her mother's still being abused by her mother and then Monica's being abused by the mother and the daughters. They are watching all of this and, like Monica's, like this isn't going to happen anymore.
Speaker 2:It's a vicious cycle. They're not going to be abused. Yeah, and they don't?
Speaker 1:they're going to see that and they're going to be abused as well. Yeah, because they're going to. You know that's. You know they're around it. If you are around that, you know it's very.
Speaker 2:You know, I just, I just the question is does a serial on a live bird get started? True?
Speaker 4:That's true.
Speaker 1:What was that Brian Would you?
Speaker 2:say something. Question question is does a serial on a live bird get started?
Speaker 4:Yeah, serial, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, like her mom is not right. Like she got so angry, so quick at her daughter and was like you're not, what is she? You're not going to disrespect me or something. Like you're not going to talk to me, like something, something I have it. And I was like what in the world are you? What are you what? Repeat that again. And she's like I'm a mother fucker.
Speaker 2:And I was like, oh my God, wow, that's the answer you said, but that filled me back for a little.
Speaker 1:Me too. She's like did you just call me a mother fucker? And I was like, yeah. And it's like, okay, I understand If you have anger problems, mrs KD, one thing, but like you, you need to take some X or you need to. They definitely need therapy, and I was shocked at the moment.
Speaker 2:Modern therapy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she said I don't have the tools, and that is absolutely obvious that you do not have the tools to say I'm sorry, I think.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I can only need. Monica needs her mother to be just feel bad and be accountable, and she's trying to get something out of her mom. I don't think it is there. It'll never happen.
Speaker 2:Never be there.
Speaker 4:You'll never. What she's looking for is for her mom to take responsibility, and our mother will never take responsibility for what she did, because she doesn't think she did anything wrong.
Speaker 2:People like that normally don't.
Speaker 4:It's just like her mom is just like Erica. Erica doesn't think she did anything wrong by spending that stolen money Allegedly?
Speaker 1:No, she didn't. We know it was really stolen. So it was actually stolen right. So we don't have to say it like Lee. And we know she had those credits. We don't have to say it allegedly. But she received some property that is receiving. In my world that's a felony and you go to prison for that, whether you know or not. If you don't pay it back, you get a charge. You get the felony to receive that stolen property. If you decide that you don't want to give a better payback, Exactly, her mother doesn't have an empathy chip.
Speaker 1:And no, you're right, they're that you have to tell somebody how to feel. Then you know they can sit there and, like Erica's faking it, doritos, doritos, buying it Right. We know that she's faking it because she doesn't know what empathy is, so she's going to give us what she's never given us before Actual feelings.
Speaker 2:You know, thinking yeah of course that we serve our livers don't have an empathy chip. These are, that's true.
Speaker 1:And they're like sociopaths, labeled sociopaths, really, because a therapist will try to get a run from somebody that has no empathy. Because, you don't grow, that you can't really fix that. You either have to be strong enough to deal with it or not. You know, I know people that that friend, love being sorry, love being good.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I'm kind of the compare with the sociopathic triangle of it's a thing that psychiatrists came up with to determine if a person is there on a live. Whatever symptoms are bad, wedding, fire-starting and cruelty to animals.
Speaker 4:No one ever used it and you know. Oh, ok, I see where you're going. Yeah, you're trying to create a profile, yeah.
Speaker 1:Honestly, it starts there. Probably, though he's right. It starts with like being treated like we're just not having that chip Right, and then always being you yeah, oh, geez, yeah, who did she say her mom was Ted Bundy? Right, didn't her mom say Ted Bundy? I think?
Speaker 2:so yeah. There's a lot of legend.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, something about Ted Bundy in in in Utah yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, love being, yeah, and I wonder how long her mom left her with those people.
Speaker 4:My guess yeah, I don't know for her to leave the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1:Well, and then her mother. I said OK, online. Her mother said that she loved those people and blah, blah, blah and let's say hold on, she loved those people and it's not true. She, her mom, is like doubling down on it. My screen here. I'm just saying oh, she said her mother said she's bully. Oh my God, yeah, Shannon Van, I agree, I, I believe she brought. This is what I said last week. Now Shannon said why did she bring her mom on the show? I think that she was trying to fix her mom.
Speaker 1:I think this is her last resort to try to fix the relationship with her mom. They brought her on the show so they can look back. Maybe this will like. Maybe look back and watch and see yourself, right.
Speaker 2:And the relationship though.
Speaker 4:But her mother is never going to see herself.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I know, but in Monica's, you know, this is probably my mom. Monica is trying because there's no other reason for her to bring that her on the show other than to maybe try to fix that relationship one way, and maybe this is because this is something different. Maybe the mother will look back and look watch what happened, you know, watch her. I mean, they actually know, let me, let me take that back, because they are doing it right now and her mother's doubling down on it, never mind.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:Dave Lamont like you know she wants to be a housewife more than she wants to be a mom, it feels like yeah, but that happens, though.
Speaker 4:You can get that one family member who always wants to be on camera and in the case of New York, it's size daughter. Size daughter is going to get her out of the way.
Speaker 1:Honey, there's a lot of branches in the family tree Hmm. Like Freddie Helen camp, she's always jumping out of either Kyle's purse or Tamara's purse. It's like mm.
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 1:Come on, freddie, freddie, freddie, helen, can't, what are you doing over here? But, oh God, and then the tile and all that she needed up my head. And she, I was like I listen, I've seen plenty of movies where the parents didn't, they didn't work things out and then she puts and passed away. I'm like what movie is she talking to this lady's out of her mind. Come on, lady, can you come up with something better than that? Hmm, she made it sound like Monica is supposed to make up with her. You're going to regret not being my daughter because I'm going to pass the way, but I don't really care what I did. You and your feelings aren't valid. Get over it. That's what she said. So, yeah, what did you guys think about when Whitney and Mary, oh God.
Speaker 4:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Whitney and Mary.
Speaker 4:For that one I was like thank you, mary. Finally, you didn't tell this her that you don't like her for the 50 millionth time.
Speaker 1:And actually whether it has a real reason, an actual, real reason, because again that she said you know, you know Whitney responded back. So it's actually I'm not Whitney, I'm sorry, mary's only responding back to what Whitney said. To begin with, Whitney called them, you know, predators and molesters, all that. And then when Mary sent that message back, that was the other reason, you know that was just literally in defense of what she had said there. So Whitney really should have never even brought the text messages up. No, because you know you said something really damaging and, like Mary said, for once, mary's not you know what she called her bobblehead. But you know she has a real, real reason to hate Whitney, you know, because she does school her a lot, you know, like she needs it. Yeah, I say I'm like Whitney. Whitney with her moments, I'm like I'm. First of all, let me just I'm forgetting into this, because I just remembered the thing with Justin, the fact that she acted like she didn't have that conversation about Bobby's birthday party with him already.
Speaker 1:That, to me, was a story that he's like yes, we did this. Dude is not in the, he's not in. He's not in. You know, she didn't like clue him in what's going on because she's just trying to make moments and make it look like he's a bad husband. Yeah, before they break up, yeah, I was like Whitney, oh, my God, you, you need therapy with. This is not a Justin. Then she's like did you make a therapy appointment, whitney? You're the one that needs therapy. This isn't a Justin problem, this is a Whitney problem.
Speaker 4:And then he has lost his job. Well, well, we'll lose his job. And he's realized what he's married and that he's been playing, that he's this big, freaky, beaky person and he's not. He looks very stressed out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, definitely. It looks like he is not. Like I think he's going back to work is probably a good thing. This was their plan. So I'm like Whitney, you know the wit, she's trying to make moments with Meredith. She did it with this.
Speaker 2:Why are you on the?
Speaker 1:spring turbine, like chasing around the house, the spring turbine. And then she tried to make a moment with Meredith, again on the top of the mountain asking for the link.
Speaker 1:That was funny, though the link, okay, that was funny. I was like, come on, I don't even. I don't even. I was laughing at Meredith with that, with a snow bank and not a clash, and but it's like I, whitney, stop it. Meredith's going to like Meredith doesn't care, meredith is like I'm going to say this. I don't even I was dying. I was like I saw my life flash in my eyes. My life flashed in front of my eyes and you didn't call me for 48 hours and when he's like I saw a snow bank, a truck and a snow bank and then I saw you said near fatal accident, I didn't put two of you together Like I'm like all right, we're together yeah.
Speaker 4:You're just so silly if you don't.
Speaker 5:Larja Sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm going to curse.
Speaker 5:I got caught up watching the people live stream from Bravo Con.
Speaker 1:Oh, I watched it yet. Yeah, what am I?
Speaker 5:missing. Well, so you know, philly Diva, right? Yes, yeah, oh my God. So she got scammed in her Bravo Con tickets, got all the way to Vegas and the lady she bought her tickets from she was like crying on her live just now, because the lady she bought her tickets from went silent after she got her last payment. So she's been walking around the streets of Vegas, crying because she can't get into the thing. Yes, oh my God. Well and then they were selling.
Speaker 5:They're selling a lot of their wares too, like Bravo. Jenny from Bravo and Blaze was showing us all around the booths and stuff and then, somebody inside. They're having an Ask Andy panel and Andy of Beverly Hills was on his way there and Jeff started questioning Andy if all the audio was perfect. And then I guess they did something that made everybody's phones mess up because all of a sudden nobody's audio would work on their recordings. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Like they did something yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, but it's yeah, Probably.
Speaker 5:Poor girl, poor girl. She got scammed.
Speaker 1:This is Bravo Con, last Bravo Con. We her Philly. We all realized that the fun was outside of the show, outside of Bravo. Yeah, we can watch. So we can watch everything that goes on on stages, right, everybody's like. But everybody hangs out in the hotel lobbies, the lounges.
Speaker 1:You know, everybody was at rooftop bars, so she's going to be able to hang out and see everyone. Like I feel bad that she's at it, but like she last year we you know she was there she got to go on stage and everything Like. Right after that we were out on the streets Like you know what I mean. We were hanging with all everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hopefully she's been able to have a positive. How much money did she say?
Speaker 5:I know, but I hey she's got to find that lady Like this is that lady's silent.
Speaker 4:It has to be because the tickets were like a thousand dollars, weren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 5:They're outpriced prices.
Speaker 2:A thousand dollars for one ticket.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the lady had the nerve to send her an ID. So Philly Diva has an ID of somebody who's supposed to be the person that sent it, so we're still hoping that maybe it was a real ID, because she could go to the police with this. I think it'd be like this lady's scampi.
Speaker 4:She can call me, I'll background check that.
Speaker 1:I'll background check that lady real quick. I can do that yeah.
Speaker 5:Well, hey well.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you can see them.
Speaker 5:I'm going to hold her. I'll try to see if I can hold her or, like she's all, I'm going to go to my hotel room and cry.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know. I don't know Because she knows, I know that's very dist, that's disturbing, that's horrible. I hope we can figure this person out, though, like I hope she finds, hey, hi.
Speaker 2:Hey, who is that?
Speaker 4:Sorry, that was me. I love you guys.
Speaker 5:That was the perfect sound effect, because we hardly get to see Aaron's face in these YouTube streams I'm sorry, I'm sorry, oh no, no, aaron is shy.
Speaker 4:Brendan, that was not she.
Speaker 2:Oh. Oh my bad.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not she, Hi Brandon. Hey, I was just thinking maybe everybody could send her like a positive note. I could put her Instagram in the thing. Maybe we could do something positive for her. Send her positive things Like, because she's actually very concerned that she's failing her subscribers and people who watch her and stuff. So maybe we could say when she does post stuff, you know just everybody like it, and say thank you.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, I don't know her.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm concerned, and I just want to do something positive for her, yeah. So I'm happy to share her link. Tanya, listen, Krista.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, because I didn't even know. Yeah, yeah, Please, anything for her, like share her stuff, everything, because I know she's got to be upset, I know she, I know she put, oh man, even the thing of money that's spending, go out there and everything.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she's never a disappointment. I don't want her to think she's disappointed. I know it's a little bit too cool.
Speaker 1:There's people out there she can hang out with and she's not going to ruin her entire week.
Speaker 3:We can even have other shows she's going to.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:Good, she have the tickets for that Like separate.
Speaker 3:Yes, she has tickets for them separately.
Speaker 2:Oh good, okay, Good, it's not on her watch yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Plus there's a lot of things that's going Vegas, vegas, and there's about 30,000 other people that love reality TV with you, plus all the reality stars. They have events. They have, you know, you know happy hours and like.
Speaker 4:Comic Con like yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like I didn't even remember, like I didn't even, you know, realize that I didn't really miss not having the Bravo Con ticket, like I did get a concussion and forget everything. But oh man, oh no, oh yeah, I was on the film with half of our subscribe, a lot of our subscribers, because I couldn't, I wasn't making sense and I was walking to my back, to where I had to go, and I was going to where Ryan Daly was having a happy hour and I went to the hotel door and I thought it was going to be super heavy and I was like Bounce back.
Speaker 4:Oh no, bounce back, oh my god.
Speaker 1:And then I had a huge concussion and they're like, they're not making sense. I think everybody but all the stuff. They're like not making any sense. I'm like I'm trying to just get to back to where I have to be Go home.
Speaker 2:I had to hurt.
Speaker 1:I have never had a concussion and I just remember seeing them every five minutes Like I'm okay, right, when am I? I'm at room, Like they're like where are you at, Are you walking? I'm like yes, yes, yes, I was scared because I kept forgetting. Like every five minutes I would forget what was going on. Like I'm like okay, guys, I forget what. You don't even mean. I was scared.
Speaker 2:And I left my. I had a concussion award. Yeah, you did, I did I did.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm I don't know, sir. Yeah, now remember, you got into a fight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just yeah, there's bully with me and I finally snapped.
Speaker 1:It's just very overpriced to be there and uh, I just it was. I don't know it, maybe it's just me, but I was hot and like to try to get to the go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5:You waited like an hour because they oh my god, I'm so sorry. We know who wedgie podcast is. They said Jeff Lewis just said Monica from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is on food stamps and he guarantees she is three months behind on her Range Rover. That's what Jeff Lewis just said about oh, my god.
Speaker 1:They're not going to be on food. You're really getting paid by Bravo. Why would they put? You on food stamps. You wouldn't be. I don't want to know you wouldn't be Right, you're a jerk. Because that doesn't even make sense. She got paid.
Speaker 5:I mean that's like too far, that's too. That's not funny.
Speaker 1:That's too far. It's true that I was on food stamps. She admitted she was on it before. Yeah, I guarantee you, I can prove she's on food stamps. Why the state of California or wherever, that Utah is not going to keep it?
Speaker 4:for food stamps.
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, no. Yeah, it seems like she's based on the thing, though We'll start the Jin Shaw file on her ass.
Speaker 1:She knows better she was. She was crooked. She was always like I love her. I love her, I feel like she is fresh faced with us. She's honest, she's got real damage from her mom. Like I really want to see her grow from that, like I want her to be. I don't want to say be okay, because I don't, can, I don't. She'll ever be okay with the way her mom is.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But maybe her she can you know her daughters will fulfill her and make it. I Mm-hmm, I am, yeah, she does. I mean I think she did bring her mom on there too, though, to try to fix that Relationship and maybe have other people say, look, kd, or you know other people, I don't know. I just yeah, I don't want her to be messy, I don't want to find anything. I want to know more about what she did, like she admits all her wrong. I want to know. Right, looks like I'm sure she gets child support, so how she on food stamps.
Speaker 5:I Mean depends on how much you make. You know there's a threshold for all those type of benefits, but you know it's really interesting. Yes, we love Monica.
Speaker 5:Yeah because we love real, authentic, not made up right stuff and we can feel it. It's energy, right. So Monica is serving an energy right now. That's relatable. We all feel that. It's authentic and real. Yeah, we love how she gets in front of what people could use against her, like I'm all about that life. I tell my kids all the time don't have nobody holding that thing over your head, no, you're gonna tell it on yourself first. Don't have anybody have any power over you. If they say who I'm a tell, be like, wait just a second, go tell on yourself, because that's how people get caught up and I love that she's doing that for herself and I feel like the other Gass mates are kind of used to being backhanded and sneaky about their stuff, so they're like that's how she is, but she's just being in the front of things. As far as her relationship with her mother, that was so hard to watch, every watch yesterday Brendan like is her mom Bipolar?
Speaker 5:she was like full on having manic wings in front of us, yes, yes, and then like eating her food. Oh, what's this dessert?
Speaker 1:Oh, whatever it is.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was like anything it's, she's like she was.
Speaker 1:Getting in her place like that triggered me, bad man. My sister's a family member does that stuff and I'm like stop it. It's like it's it's an obvious thing. And you know, oh my god, I did not pick up on that until you just said that, because I was like wait a minute. Is that? I was thinking more along the lines of maybe she'd taken some medication?
Speaker 2:She was.
Speaker 5:I don't think she's on any medication. I think she's just a high, low lady and even her. Manic, going all the way back to her, her childhood. Because what mom of a 12 year old daughter Unless you're having some type of manic episode Would leave your daughter Strangers so you can go to New York and never look back and never get her. And then you're on TV and she needs to just get over it. That's a whole manic episode, you guys.
Speaker 1:Again, there's nothing really like. I don't think it's gonna be. I don't think Monica's ever gonna get what she's never gonna get. She wants her mom, but no it's gonna crave it. She's always gonna want it, because I kind of understand that, but I just hope that her mom the fact that she brought up therapy to, though admits that she doesn't have the tools. That's the most honest two things that woman has said. The best two things that woman could have said was that we need therapy Cuz kind of.
Speaker 5:I felt like that therapy cry was just Um yes well I mean literally said she doesn't care a number of times and then, all of a sudden, well, we need to go to therapy. Well, therapy is for people who give up, you know true.
Speaker 1:She actually thinks that has to forgive her, for a Monica has to get over that. Or like I'm gonna die so you have to forgive me, or whatever. I think, well, like why don't you just like say to your daughter I don't know, see, she looks at Monica cry and she has no feeling, so then it's just not. You know, you don't grow empathy. You obviously maybe she's reset. Like you said, monica called it, monica called it completely with her mom, yeah, the whole.
Speaker 5:Generations of resentment, or something she said, she put it really well.
Speaker 1:Why is she hate her? It's deep, like to cover an MF for like. I don't even think she was talking to Monica, she was just flipping out. Yeah, she was not realizing. After I think that she's just like you said she's just flipping out Because she lost her shit, put her hand at her and said I'm not, yeah, I would have been so confused.
Speaker 5:This is like her mom wants a snowflake. It's like her mom got invited on the show to be supporting for her.
Speaker 5:And now that she has some camera time and she saw Angie's dad. A lot of this goes back to Angie's dad for me, because mom has hot pants, allegedly. In my opinion, that reaction she gave to Angie's dad and then that whole apology after to me was to make it Angie's dad, make her think, make him think that she would never raise a person like that. So of course they can go have a drink. You know what I'm saying like Because you would apologize for Somebody that you've never even met. You know what I'm saying like, unless you have an ulterior motive. And the way she lit up around that man and she was just like. She shook her little thin hair and everything she was like.
Speaker 3:You know, she came alive you know.
Speaker 5:So, yeah, it's a really sad situation. Wait, I just realized Brendan is loving. Yes, exactly, Hi, shabee Um.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 1:Definitely think that I Forgot about the dad and her, did you? Alright? So the sea was shown. Walking into that too, I said their dad and Angie are doing their whatever dinner show. Yeah, did you realize how Angie is like? Oh, feed you off, serve you, whatever. It's like, I'm taking a shower, see you later or have a good night, or show it was.
Speaker 5:Yeah well, and he didn't touch her. So to me that whole scene, if I was a wife Right and my husband supposedly just ran down to the show, what she said was he just had to run down to the shop for something, the beauty shop, for something. He'll be right back, probably before we finish. So that implies that he just left for a minute and he'll be right back. So why you got to take a shower if you only been gone a minute, bro? Why didn't? Why?
Speaker 3:didn't you?
Speaker 5:get close enough for me to do a sniff check.
Speaker 3:Why were you?
Speaker 5:there. You didn't even address me and you run to take a shower and you saw how the dog was sniffing on. He's like, oh, I gotta go take a shower.
Speaker 1:Rumors might be true, I Think they're true, but I think it everybody's in the loop and I feel like even shown and I don't think they ever and have dinner together. So, sean, to me he didn't really. He said that was normal for him and Angie, thanks, yeah, yeah, because I think that was normal In front of us, like she was gonna serve him dinner, like he was coming home. I'll, he'll be right back, he's gonna come eat dinner with a rediver and then he's like see you later, take care. I'm like.
Speaker 5:That is so weird. If he was so, remember how he was crying when the rumors came out. Right, yeah. I was sitting there crying. Oh my god, what am I daughter thing? Well, what's your daughter gonna think too, when you walk past your wife every chance you get, never take a moment to caress her, don't even say hi to her properly when you walk in the house, I mean, and then you immediately have to run to a shower. I mean, anybody who read the Cosmo Article knows those are the signs.
Speaker 1:And a whole dog in the bed between them. You know the your parents are Me. You're not even telling the whole adult daughter that she's that big and that dog that's the biggest, oh god. You're not even saying, hey, we need to have privacy, like it's absolutely probably.
Speaker 5:Yes and. Then it was weird for her father, who's a man, and everybody knows there's a hierarchy in relationships, I don't care who you are, there's a hierarchy. Some people allow the man to lead, some people want to lead together. But for her dad to tell her what she needs to do is where the pants over her husband Hmm, what man do you know that wants their wife wearing the pants over their husband? Like what's that? Trying to set her up for the divorce finale? Well, what is he doing?
Speaker 4:Well, brendan, you were raised by a strong woman, so you're a little different.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's why Sutton's always gonna be single, right? I mean, she doesn't want to man-to-leaf. I just I feel like maybe they got together when they were, you know, when they're really young, and they're just great business partners, they're great friends or great best friends. Maybe they had sex I had a baby and maybe on her coat, like she had to get married. Maybe she felt like she had to marry him because her dad, I don't know. But maybe they just there's. I don't mind their situation. If that's the situation, I just screams Jessal impuget.
Speaker 4:Who Jessal from?
Speaker 1:New York.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
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Speaker 4:Being follows everybody. He's on everybody's pain.
Speaker 1:I made sure this thing Be ready. I'm gonna need some the Erica, some Erica stuff, because I she takes 20 years off my life all the time. I need people to reel me back in and be like it's okay, it's alright, they're okay, jane. Yes.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I know she's fun link she. I know it's hot that she's around hanging on Tom senior Probably for a long time and that gets he's running all the stuff in Vegas. I think they tried on the live Tom's already. I feel it all of it, all of it. Everybody, you're just crazy, just hate her. I'm like no, I actually saw that like Dana kind of has receipts, like it's like I think they're waiting for all the bankruptcy stuff. Look at me, I'm still going after Erica got done it. Listen, she spends so much money. I just you receive it. You stole it. You didn't steal it. Whatever you received it. That's a felony. You don't think you should pay. You know. I just, mr, make it make sense. She's taken 20 years. I just Erica. I don't know, maybe she's really not a criminal, I don't know. I Don't know Anybody have any thoughts on the Erica Erica interview? I?
Speaker 5:Didn't know Erica was out talking with her mouth instead of stuffing things in it.
Speaker 1:Type that so I can make that. I mean, honestly, she sings. It's not nothing, there's nothing, everything that goes in it is yeah. I mean honestly, she's got a stuck a lot to even pay $7 for tickets like nobody, tom senior, and I swear to God, I think the Sun's crooked is AF, because maybe we've never seen him.
Speaker 5:Oh my god, how can we never?
Speaker 1:even Facial reconstruction from his big snowstorm crash. When he like rolled his car seven times, remember he probably had to get plastic surgery.
Speaker 4:I've only known it to snow, and Pasadena once during the Rose Bowl and that was like 1980 something.
Speaker 1:I think one time it's like Listen what I got, erica.
Speaker 5:Jane is she needs to put the syringe down?
Speaker 1:Man.
Speaker 5:Then maybe she'll have Puss to Pat, because it's looking really bony down there right now, and she might want to pay off some of the people that she ripped off when she was using the victims money. Because, she's crying about will anybody work with me? Because the way you treat a people who left them all holding the bag. That's why you worried about who gonna work with you, lady.
Speaker 5:You might want to take a voice lesson when you do get some food stamps for Monica so that you can carry a note. Oh to the line when you finally do end up indicted on all these charges, because it's not over yet.
Speaker 1:Because once the bankruptcy gets going To convict them, then it's easier for criminals to convict them.
Speaker 4:Oh right, but you know what? My sister is actually diabetic and she's on semi-glutide. She says she can't really eat anything.
Speaker 1:She's well. I mean, she really has diabetes. She really needs it, though. That's it, mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:Stomach paralysis, thing right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no.
Speaker 5:My friends already in a class action lawsuit for that out here in California because she was only on the Zimpick for like three months and her stomach already won't do what it's supposed to do now. Oh she was big too. Is was she was big, so she really had it, but for some reason it did that to her, so we got to be careful with these things.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you need it. That's the thing. Like I know, erica I mean not Erica Aaron, aaron's chomp Aaron's dying right now to say something because we disagree on everything Almost with Erica, and I'm dying to know your thoughts, aaron, on Erica and the interview with mr Zach Peter, and what are your thoughts about Erica cuz?
Speaker 3:First exacted an amazing job. I thought that the layout was beautiful. I thought he was very professional. It did look like two friends talking. I think that's amazing to have those skills to do that. I'm gonna start with that. The exacted amazing on his interview with Erica. Also, I thought that this was the first time and we really saw a different side of Erica. She was much more relaxed and we've seen her in interviews, even when she's gone on access Hollywood I believe she's done that many times. She always seems very tense and very like strict and she seemed very relaxed and laid back. I think that we're seeing a different side of her and I really enjoyed that part of it because I think Everybody has more than just one dimension. I did put Zach's link in the chat so that people can go see the interview for themselves and I like the interview. I thought it was well done. I thought we got to see a different side of Erica.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna accuse anybody of something until charges have been released. There is no proof, so I will not judge somebody off Opinions. I'm very. I just don't believe, even when somebody is tried, even when Jen Shaw was, I do not believe Accusing people until they're they're done. Jen Shaw has done it. I always said I prayed for the people being hurt. I do the same thing in the case with Erica and the Gerardie. I prayed for the victims, but I don't blame anybody until facts are proven, and so that's my my still my opinion here. I like to believe people are better, and that's just. I'm an optimist, but I do want to give it a shout out to Zach, because that was an incredible Interview and the way that he made her feel relaxed enough to for us to see a different side of Erica. That's a skill, and amazingly so.
Speaker 1:So that I mean that a Zach has been from day one. It was because of Erica, on the day she fell for divorce. I Listened to my found him. I messaged him somehow. From day one he has always been a friend, he's always been. He's your friends from the day like. He's always been that same person. And I agree with you as much as I. I love that he got that interview. I love that for him. I'm happy for him. But now I agree to even if we agreed that she didn't steal the money, right, but don't you agree that she spends what she received it and she spent?
Speaker 3:it. I believe that she doesn't. Knowingly, she doesn't know how to show empathy, so I'd be interested to see her Side of it. I believe when she did the charity event, her actually like going up to these people and showing sincerity in her. Her side of her feelings towards them was beautiful. I do believe she needs to show more. If she feels more, that I will agree with. If you feel bad for these people, you need to show it instead of putting up a wall, which I understand why she put up a wall. So many people came to attack her and Immediately she didn't even have a moment to breathe.
Speaker 3:And I believe she has done so many things wrong to represent Feeling bad, because she has said she felt bad, but she hasn't shown that in action and I would like to see some action shown, even if she Did a concert and what money went towards these victims or something like that. When it's all said and done, I do know, legally speaking, because I was divorced and he wasn't a great guy Is there really knows? I know legally, when you're in it, you're not allowed to say too much, so I'm wondering if that's still why she hasn't done anything, because her lawyers may be telling her. You can't, because it shows You're that you're one of the but she obviously Receives stolen property.
Speaker 3:It's obviously that she there now, unknowingly or knowingly, she obviously Like he has said in the interview exact, she's not sorry, she didn't get the earrings back. She wouldn't prove that she wasn't a part of it. But she didn't. She thought the money should go to them. So in the interview that was one part that I keyed in on that she said, no, I didn't want the earrings back. I wanted the proof that I did not, um, actually do the crime. But I but she actually did not fight. She could have gotten the money for what they sold with the earrings back, which most people did not realize till this interview, which I did know that legally she won, so that money should have been hurt. She said no to the money coming back to her. She was okay with the money going towards the victim as long as she she just didn't want to blame, but she was okay with the money from the earrings going to the victim.
Speaker 5:So I think that was a big Way for does anybody know about the whole two sets of earrings thing? And she's being sued by the trustee Because she gave back earrings that weren't the ones they asked for. So why is she being so dishonest on that part?
Speaker 4:They replace them, one that replaced them, because the one, the one, the the one point three million dollar earrings that she thinks is the ones that she has. That's only yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give them back, or something.
Speaker 4:No see what happened is yeah. And to Erica, he went and got replacement earrings. Right it's same earrings, not of the same quality right now. They were the same carrot weight, but not the same clarity, which meant the price went down phenomenally. Instead of one point three, the earrings that she won the money off of were $750,000, but they were the replacements correct. They were the replacements correct.
Speaker 1:So why are we trying to act like that? Obviously are not the same earrings. I don't understand why, but he believes they're the same earrings, though.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's the problem. She believes they're the one point three, when they're not.
Speaker 3:But he did not buy earrings at the same value of the other ear.
Speaker 1:I'm did it when Tom bought her the replacement earrings. She knew exactly what he did with those earrings. What is the big FN deal? No, we should go them.
Speaker 3:If she did not know, the earrings the second pair were not the same values at the first pair, which is and within there there is when they were purchased. Tom bought the earrings. Tom about the both time.
Speaker 5:But he bought the earrings with Gerardi keys funds, which was the victims money being co-mingled with their money, which makes all the purchases tainted, which makes it her bad to even accept it, because she didn't know that.
Speaker 3:But she did not know that at the time. She did just to work at the thing.
Speaker 5:Remember when Erica first came on the scene? I used to work at Tom's office. I know everything that goes on there. She said that. It's immortalized on film that she said those words. And now she's doubling back years later, trying to act like, oh well, I'm just a doting housewife who had everything paid for me and I don't even know how to press the buttons on a ATM. She's a liar. And then listen to this. Just one more thing. One more thing. What do you call a person that doesn't have any empathy?
Speaker 4:Narcissist people with antisocial personality disorder, lack empathy for others, may be contemptuous or indifferent to the feelings, rights and suffering of others.
Speaker 5:Mrs From murkmanuelscom, so she got an issue. If you made it to 60 freaking years old and you have zero empathy for somebody, you know, what it means.
Speaker 5:Don't need to be on a TV acting like you have something to offer the people. You need to go to a class for empathy and then that'll lead to the class for accountability, and then come back on the TV and I might want to listen to you, but at this point I'm thinking that Bravo Khan might need to be the show next year on Bravo, for all the cons that Bravo employees.
Speaker 1:I know I'm with you because there's a whole other side to this, about Tom senior. Tom the other Tom, not Tom Jardy. She's been with Tom senior up his butt all the time. He's allegedly a big-wig Mopster guy out there. He has been getting some of the money With her with Tom J. I still believe it that she did not kill the cops that he was about or the police. He's at the bottom of the cliff because she wanted it on a live. Why not? He's the only one that could tell her she wants to be with Tom senior. That wouldn't be so what's what's so? You know why not? She was with him before. That wouldn't be.
Speaker 1:Why is it a secret, erica? Why are you hiding the fact that? Thank God, dana Wilkie has proof? But it's like their death to me is strange. It is talking about that like why are you cares if you're with your ex-husband? They are your baby daddy. Unless he's the criminal, unless he, you guys were really like doing some sneaky stuff. I don't know. There's a whole other thing the thing with the earrings. She absolutely knew they were fucking verbalized and were replaced. Why would he hide that from her? You know what I mean. I'm going to replace you. I'm sorry. I know, erin, I get too much with Erica. I try not to get too hyper. Nobody will ever answer my question why did she divorce Tom? Why did she divorce him? She didn't want her name?
Speaker 2:No, she didn't know until the day after. She didn't know until the day after.
Speaker 4:I think she knew he was coming down the pike.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then say that, erica. Don't tell us you didn't know. Until the day after I fell for divorce, I saw it coming. I knew he was doing this. I took me a couple of years to figure out how to get out of it Legally. I couldn't just walk away. You know what I mean. Say those things, tell us, say, look, I you know. But his ex-wife said 40 years ago or whatever, that he's been doing this from day one. He does this.
Speaker 1:I think he promised Erica, I don't know. I think she promised. He promised Erica that the victims would always get paid. We'll just borrow it. I think she was under the impression that they would always be taking care of it. It wasn't that big of a deal, think about it, because he did him a lot of money himself so she could get lost in the shuffle. But she looked that way instead of the right way. She looked left instead of right and see what he was really doing. It just was like I'm okay, rich, at all costs, you know like you know, rich at all costs, it doesn't matter. And then he's going to get old. But they didn't have him getting old one day, pooping his pants and not knowing. You know, cursing at like judges and having a whole like. It's like one day he's going to court, in the next day, shit himself and he's got holes in his right. It doesn't just happen for night. He doesn't put darn cliff unconscious for six hours. Nobody tells the police, nobody tells the doctors. Come on, come on she wanted him dead.
Speaker 1:She wanted to die.
Speaker 4:She was always like come on man.
Speaker 1:It was a happy convenience that he flipped one of that cliff. She's like, okay, great, now I can. Maybe we'll just like not tell the hospital, like what you lied to, that he told me not to. He's fucking unconscious and he's 90. He told you not to, erica, are you kidding? You said, my God, he was unconscious, he could die. Please save my husband, check him. Somebody call 911. No, what do you do? You go get him Call 911. I'm so lost with this. It's like been three years.
Speaker 5:She's like all time. What if Hile Richards is taking a page out of Erica's book because all this big Mauricio is getting sued for scamming on that $32 million house and then selling it at a $40 million profit away from that Nigerian Prince? You know that's a point. The suit is coming down the pipe and all of a sudden they're going through issues and separating and not wanting to be together, and this is a problem. So I feel like this is all a setup to prime us to believe that they're literally having problems so that when she splits the, when she leaves him watch, her leave with all of her stuff, intact, of course, during the kids have their legacy because she's going to leave and take what she's due before this case gets done and then he's going to get left holding the bag on that and whatever happens over there, whatever she took prior to the case going through, she'll be able to keep.
Speaker 1:They cash the house out, but you're forgetting it. He's got a mistress too. He's got to take care of Miss Ulsa Jean.
Speaker 5:I don't really know if he's screwing that lady, you know.
Speaker 2:I'm not.
Speaker 1:This is the porn star.
Speaker 5:I believe that Kyle is smashing the Morgan lady because somebody put a picture of Morgan with Kyle that last year's Bravo con you guys. Their sisters their half sisters. Pile and Morgan are half sisters. The country singer in her I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:She really thinks that it's cool to have them have a video with your half sister and pretend you're going to kiss her. There's no other reason for her to have that tattoo. There's no reason, for her dad was a guy who did. He had affairs right, wouldn't be out of the room to say, oh, I have a child and you know she was raised by her stepdad. I believe she found out that they were half sisters and then she's just using that as that. That was the happenstance too. Don't look what's going on over here with Maricio. Look at us over here. Let's pretend we're the ones that made up that thing. I got her and Morgan. We said that she was having an affair with her. She was just hanging out with her like she does with Teddy. The weird shit is how close they got. The only reason you're going to get that close to another famous person is if you're freaking, related or like your long lost half sister. They look alike.
Speaker 5:I don't think Well, didn't Morgan's girl come out and say that she?
Speaker 1:don't know, she was just jealous, she didn't know. Well wouldn't.
Speaker 5:Morgan to save her relationship. Wouldn't Morgan have told her this is my half sister? I don't think she wanted to.
Speaker 1:I don't really think she cared about that relationship. She was with a guy like she. I don't think that was a, that was like a couple years, but I think she was. Also she had just broken up with a guy that um, I forget his name for a really she would there together a really long time. But I just think, morgan, she wasn't a fight fan of the show. She had no idea what was going on with housewives. Kyle had no idea about her songs and they have her. They're things tattooed right.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:I really think they didn't really think that, but they didn't touch in the video. They were playing with us. She's doing a documentary, I believe, because they're half sisters and I think that they're going to come reveal that on the show. And I think that Marisa got also gene pregnant in beginning of last year. Brandy told Kyle because brandy is her best friend and I know that she didn't have it or whatever, but like he's not secretive about that, I never thought I'd see him and I didn't think he. Хyla Lisa if your guys.
Speaker 5:Just I got, I actually have flown Plus. He aced e. But what's the girl's name? Elsa who?
Speaker 1:Elsa Jean. Elsa Jean. Yeah, I'll be careful when you Google her, put them Reese's name in it, because she's a really popular porn star and I can't get rid of it on my laptop now.
Speaker 5:Okay well, luckily you know how on iPhones it kind of helps you a little bit on that part a little bit.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I never. I don't watch porn, just kidding, interesting, because she's weird, shay, she, kyle thinks it's cool. Oh, let's do a video like we're gonna act like they didn't really kiss or anything. But we're the ones that made that up, we're the ones that said they're having an affair, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 5:Well, she said don't Google her.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna see if I can get the um. The stuff I saw I won't pull. I won't show the patron stuff I don't want. They didn't get mad at me, but I mean, it's not the stuff that Dana found.
Speaker 5:I we could probably find too, but like you know something like that, august Alcina, the one who had the entanglement with Jada Tupac Smith, when, after the whole entanglement thing came out, remember there was that video of him almost kissing a guy and the guy ended up being his brother.
Speaker 4:Mmm, uh-uh, yeah, with a guy though.
Speaker 5:Hmm, no, but that was his. That wasn't true. It was literally his brother. It was really his younger brother and there was no entanglement. And then they came up together and they were like you guys don't believe anything. This is my brother. Oh, but in the in the video they made it seem like they were intimate. Yeah, so maybe you're right, kristen listen.
Speaker 1:This came up like when it first happened. I was listening to the Patriot. I was like, oh, she was. Yeah, I gotta find it because alright. So when I went back and I listened, I watched Amazon live with her and Kyle. They're banners like sisters. Hmm, I'm taught and I just I don't know. I really still believe that because I don't understand why else you would get her name tattooed. If you're having a Fair with her, you wouldn't be putting her out there like that. If you were sneaking around Because she would have to be sneaking around Kyle why would you be all out there with her?
Speaker 5:Taylor boys yes.
Speaker 1:Man, there's a lot of Bravo concept.
Speaker 5:They are really gross sometimes.
Speaker 1:But I don't know. I just I'm like I really wish the Tommy stuff I don't know, maybe it'll come out a little bit later her and Tom senior. I guess maybe it's very legally Abandoned, I don't know, but it's crazy to me. I wish I got that's a bunch of what they just patron again in here, because it's worth it. For 699 or or, I think, 999. She gives you the whole pot of tea, like we get the key. She gives you the whole pot, though.
Speaker 5:That's crazy. She still has the inside of scoop from being in the Hollywood that she just knows so many people too.
Speaker 1:Like every time she has information, she says where she got it from, she shows us the receipt, hmm, oh so Jean, here we go. Marie, sir, cheating, separation, lesbian lovers, blah, blah, blah, there's any other pictures in here.
Speaker 1:Oh, um, yeah, I was shocked. I was like Mauricio and I was just like, wow, what a stomach. Like whoa, that's really freaking bad. She's a dog, okay, okay, she's like a doll. I, she's very tiny little porn star saying you know, that's a sight. I thought that was strange, I thought that was cringe, I thought that was like he's a little creepy. But none of them look like Kyle, they're all blonde blues, yes, blah, like. And then I'm a slater. Why are you holding our hand? Why were you Women's hand? Seriously, marie?
Speaker 1:was having the porn stars hand. Yeah, no, I'm a slater. The dance lady, the dance.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I Don't know she had a baby. I thought she didn't, though like I'm Don't know what I can bring up there, but it was. So there was like pictures or something of them together and then like some text messages that she had and A lot of stuff and it was like Kyle kind of knows about it, the which she says, so what else she says. And her friend and Brandy Greenville says Kyle knows, kyle's known about it for years. She said she's the one in her face and she got, apparently allegedly got pregnant. And now now Kyle once now she's using it as a storyline, but I guess After.
Speaker 5:So the cat that wait, whoa, whoa, wait Are you are whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you telling me, mauricio, and pregnant at the porn star?
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, oh. Last January is there this January. What year are we now not this January that passed the one before that, oh, no, he's very fertile. I mean, listen, like she also her image got very, her image got. She was a glamour magazine. All of a sudden they cleaned up her image a lot. Yeah, they were gonna go for divorce. Now they are. I mean it's, it's yeah, I'll send you like back. Shall send it to you now.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there's a whole thread on Reddit about this, whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say Reddit was probably the good place to go. Oh, yeah, yeah, you got it. Yeah, do you see what I mean? Yeah, and Reddit. I'm sorry, I used to say Reddit is it's Twitter's evil twin, but Reddit is Reddit, reddit is everything, and I feel like I always thought it was like worship, but it just is all true. It all seems to come true, like on the hills. The one lady she was that was the hills.
Speaker 5:Oh, I see what you're talking about, so yeah, so on Reddit somebody did a picture, mauricio seen holding hands with his recently Divorced Emma Slater, but it doesn't tell me about the baby yet let's see. But it does message. One of the comments is I thought he just had a baby with the porn star no way, I'm telling you I was like dying when I saw this.
Speaker 1:I'm like Dana and I'm telling you, like her, she gets everything. It's like stuff she says and I'm like everything that she, she keeps everything. So, like a year late, this is a year later now. So we were talking about this in January of 2000, july 8th last year, this year, and all the information. Yeah, like she, this is now relevant. It's relevant because before I'm, like other night and separated right, I was like, oh, another cheating, remember, you know he cheated. When I'm now that all this, now it means a lot. Now that's me. I mean now it's like All right, yeah, I don't like it for a hot here. Yeah, and and like she's, look at her, she's very beautiful but she's very little. Yeah, she's teeny, tiny, she looks. And to read, if you had, if you have Dorito and you have Elsa, jean and you and they had a baby, that would look like emiss later. That would be emiss later.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he just has the type that is not her.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. He got really high all this year or something was telling all of that dude he was not with it, he did not want to be here, he was not Thinking about and when they say I've always been one of my fave husbands, you know but not anymore.
Speaker 5:I like the laid-back husbands who don't want to be a housewife.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5:I like those kind but.
Speaker 3:There's a lot going on there, right.
Speaker 5:At least the kids are grown. At least there's no toddlers involved. No great school. Kids involved everybody's.
Speaker 2:You know, they're.
Speaker 5:They're adult enough to handle it, hopefully, if it's not true. But I was gonna ask you real quick yeah, do you think that Whitney and Her dude are gonna make it? Cuz? I'm like, how did he Not mentioned to his wife that I'm gonna be out of town for our daughter's 13th party? She's lying, cuz she's lying, she's lying. She's a liar. She's the liar.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like a moment, because he's like we did. He was. He said we did talk about this, right? She didn't. She didn't fight him on it, she didn't, but she knew that she was trying to make a moment in front of the camera To make him look like a bad husband. I would make him go to make a therapy appointment. You're the one with the problems, whitney. Oh yeah, that's a whole moment. Just like the same thing to see in the dinner. He was confused. He's like what do you? We don't have problems in here. I Mean, honestly, he looks confused. He looks like he's looking at her like I'm confused on, because he's like we did have this conference. She said, oh, I can move it to the weekend before because you already did, whitney, you didn't make it on her birthday, like you would remember that, like you did, right.
Speaker 5:And then she was so okay with. Well, I can't go ahead and change it to the weekend before, but I'm gonna need help. But if you already planned it and we're making it for the other weekend, then you would have had more of an issue with it. So you are lying because it was really for the weekend before. Because what Christa just said is true, whitney, you would lie to try to make a moment.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna make move. The birthday party oh, I can just move. Now you've made a plan. That was the plan. That was the plan that was. Oh, you wanted him to go back to work, and now they have to go back to work. She's gonna make it look like they're gonna get a dub worse over it. I Miss who makes bacon and eggs on a Tuesday morning for kids that have to go to school? Who has the time to do all that?
Speaker 2:nobody right in the morning.
Speaker 4:And why is he putting his ring in the drawer?
Speaker 1:because he knows that she's trying to make a storyline and he's like man, I don't know. I think he forgot to wear it that day. I forget mine once in a while, no.
Speaker 5:I never forget mine. I Never forget mine.
Speaker 2:You guys, you don't know Do you ever take yourself like do you know, see my night you going and all. I.
Speaker 4:Mean my arthritis in my fingers swell, so I always take my rings off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't think they, I think that's something like that. He just forgot one day, just like Kyle said, Because she carried her lies from that scene over to her dinner with Mary, and that scene was classic.
Speaker 5:Why I can't stand with me? Because she does things and says things and then acts like she has the right to be more Offended at your reaction to her bullshit. Then you know what I'm saying is she's just sitting up there like well, that mirror. You have my feelings with your text. It's a try to destroy this woman's family. You made it a mission on national TV. She sent you some text on private mode. Yeah, it's TV.
Speaker 5:No different things and for you to sit there. What's your bobblehead little girl like oh the same. No, you need to go to remedial classes at this point, whitney, because you're not right, you're just not right and Therapy.
Speaker 1:That darn it. You're the cheese the problem. It's not Meredith, it's not Justin, it's not Mary. Yeah, it's Whitney, where it's poor Whitney, because it's not Heather. Well, oh my god, heather too, I Can't wait to whatever.
Speaker 5:Heather's lurking behind Whitney's facade of smoke. Whatever's lurking, we're about to find out. It's the time of being revealed. Watch, it's all gonna blow up because Jesus is coming for Whitney. Jesus is coming for Whitney the way she had her. Mary gave her a chance. Yeah, stop Jesus from coming for her.
Speaker 5:I know she sat there and fixed her mouth to want an apology before even Apologizing, and then only said oh, that was terrible. She didn't even still didn't apologize for what she did. I know, yep, she was like I'm taking my food. Jesus is on the way.
Speaker 1:Mary came for Mary.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm sorry when he came back, I'm sorry when he went for her first and that's why Mary's texture, that stuff yes and then nothing can be needed I, when she said and I remember what that one content creator that was on a witch hunt for Mary and Was having all her family on there and stuff Whitney had all was sending all the receipts, like she really, yes, part of that and she's, I wouldn't forgive her either, just like I wouldn't forgive Lisa if I were Meredith. You know, it's not what you said it.
Speaker 5:What's so interesting, though? There are so many people that are like, oh, I want to reserve judgment, like how we just said for Erica. They want to believe Erica's not, with, like full-on indictments and judges and cases pending and all of this stuff. But then there are a lot of people that are willing to still, to this moment, believe that Mary's thing is some type of cult, mary is some type of criminal and Mary is some type of this, that and the other, and there's no proof of that. But people are so willing to believe that there's literal proof about what Erica has been involved in, and people are like, well, until the actual guilty verdict comes, I'm not gonna say anything. You know what it's just.
Speaker 1:You're right, it's selective believing, selective Elected believing like okay you're morally, you morally don't think she did anything wrong, but you're un morally. Thing is she do you know what I mean? Like your moral compass is a little off. If you think one, you know what I mean you have no proof of one thing which is so much like it's just as bad. Creditor, top molester, thieves, oh my god, cults, I mean. Okay, I, I kept saying you can accuse anybody of anything, you can sue anybody for anything and the blocks can get it, but you have to hold up and court has to hold up in court. And even if it doesn't know J Simpson, that doesn't need the whole, the masses aren't going to think one thing like the masses are convicting Erica Right now because what you know morally, we know that she received phone property.
Speaker 1:No other reason for her to leave her husband, except for she knew that he, the money was gone and that was it. The gig was up. You didn't find out the day after. I know I'm gonna probably say this for the day I hit go somewhere else, I'll play. I just want her to be like I knew and I I found out or something, and I took me a couple years. Because I mean, yeah, we take her probably a couple years to figure out how to leave the dude. Maybe I don't know if he was shit in his pants, apparently, so I don't know what the hell why that wasn't a reason. I mean sickness and health, but your reporter, why did you leave him? He needs you the most right now. Apparently you need to the most. He's the stick when are you like? But she doesn't even hate him. What he ruined your life, erica Good, allegedly think that it was yours like. Why don't you hate the man unless you?
Speaker 4:knew that kind of exit took planning. Yeah yeah, she had her whole entire closet. She had all of her shoes and stuff. That took time. She took clothes out of that house a little by little, by little by little.
Speaker 1:Tom senior took them. Tom senior is the one who took every they feel right from, because he's the dudes got money. So I mean he could probably wash money real quick in Vegas. That's what he's done for living. And when they, the recedes, came up with that not Allegedly just exactly that, but the signs are all there yeah, it makes money now makes so much more sense to me.
Speaker 1:What happened where she was, where the money came from, which she was doing. When he got like, oh my god, we're like who she like you know what. I mean there was something was up going on and where she was getting money or something and I'm like there's no extra. You know he spent it all. He spent it. There's no money left. But dude, oh, she was Funneling it through and I think Tom Junior Jorardi knew that. But eventually he got. You know he's gonna have to go because he's the only one that can implicate them too. So just happened, lee, you just happen to fall off a cliff or roll down a cliff. I think that was just a coincidence. And then he's sort of probably like don't tell the hospital, maybe he'll die, because he's the only one. You know what you mean. That's, I'm thinking how that went.
Speaker 1:Call Tom Junior when there's a burglary and past. The Dina did fix those sort of past. The Dina when are they? Where's? I mean we're like you didn't call the cops. What kind of cops is I need to call the authorities. Don't call me, I'll get in trouble. I'm not a real cop right now and it's a snowscourner. There's a reason he hasn't talked about his mother.
Speaker 2:The hardly ever fills in California.
Speaker 1:They're actually probably real criminals because you don't hear anything about them. Her, tommy She'll think about it real criminals don't? Aren't like a little as well as running their mouth on camera? But I'm saying like people that are actually gonna. You know what I'm saying. You know you're not out there doing yeah. We never heard about this guy because he's real good at what his job is job.
Speaker 4:Krista, you and I know, yeah, yeah, real criminals. They wouldn't be talking, no.
Speaker 1:Like, I'm like, you guys are like embarrassing.
Speaker 5:I'm like well, gangsters move in silence they do, and that that's.
Speaker 4:That's the roof. You're not gonna run around.
Speaker 1:Well like you're gonna run around in no-nose pajamas, screaming through in the book a lot of whatever. They're a criminal going. I'm winning, she's winning, I'm winning. And he's doing the book of wolf and it was pajamas like. That's a wacky criminal, that's a weird ass criminal. That's just a weird.
Speaker 4:Like I'm not very.
Speaker 2:Not all.
Speaker 1:I mean you have to be smart but then you have to be dumb too, that you have to be like too smart for your own good. I think you're gonna get away with it if you go into a reality TV show. I can't find the psychological behind, I can't find the sake behind it. They're just a dumb criminal to me You're too much of a criminal. You're too greedy because you think you can't get caught. And we get greedy it caught.
Speaker 4:Yep, exactly I think a reality show can wash all that money.
Speaker 1:We're looking at you now. If I do something wrong. I don't want nobody looking at me what? And then again I don't want to know what you're doing.
Speaker 4:Why they can't get heavy hitters to come on this show no, because they don't want to.
Speaker 1:Do themselves one day like we know what can happen with these people doing what they're doing, talking like they talk.
Speaker 4:Come on. I'll pitch this show. She's for herself, kathy and Kim. No, kim, yeah, but mostly it was Kai. It was herself, oh yeah, and I know Richie's ex-wife, brenda, and Brenda was like, oh no, not, what's gonna happen? Oh hello. My bestie, your friend, just amazing. Yes, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, you know I love you, I love you guys. I mean, we've had a really good conversation for the last two hours. I like mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Good therapy hour, the hood is.
Speaker 4:Is this your?
Speaker 1:sister, no everybody everybody asks that no. She's the most beautiful ever happen my hair's a mess.
Speaker 4:You got a good shing-yong happening.
Speaker 1:She's young too. She's young. How are you 30, beautiful, 34? She's 34. Yes, yes, cuz you know I'm around her, so that's good. Yeah, she's like the other half of my soul.
Speaker 2:Hi friend, I love it.
Speaker 5:So, does she have thoughts about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City or Erica or anything?
Speaker 1:She's like who you don't? You don't Force it, force her to get to watch it. I put it on. She's like that's cool, we have to watch Miami. She's like all right. It's hilarious.
Speaker 5:Don't indulge either. Why are you watching this, oh?
Speaker 4:my mom runs around the house. Tell them why you gossiping, no gossiping. And then it's like my dad goes.
Speaker 1:Who the hell cares about reality TV? I said I freaking hope a lot of people. Actually, who cares about sports center for 24 hours? That runs for seven? They talk about sports center for 20. We can we do talk about this 24 seven. We are their news. When you hear something about them, you go to see an end to find out with gonna, with Erica, we are the news for them. Right, journalist, think so. Big Bravo come, thinks we're losers.
Speaker 5:We don't get a package.
Speaker 1:We don't get an invite, we don't get press passes, we don't get a place to plug your phone in. Poor Philly divas like Bravo, hate, bravo does not give us any respect and we keep this narrative running. When the cameras are down, what do we do? We make sure they're being talked about, we accept their dance, we get their tea, we make shit up and we make things up.
Speaker 4:Relevant and we get no respect. Did y'all see that Rachel is not coming? Is? Not asked to be on. I forgot about Rachel.
Speaker 1:Rachel, who exactly yes.
Speaker 5:Raquel, no, she's back to. I forgot about her.
Speaker 3:I totally forgot them.
Speaker 5:Thank, you, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 4:Is he there? No she's not been invited.
Speaker 1:Oh. I mean either was freaking Jen Shaw or Tamer Teddy, and they still went.
Speaker 2:Sing a little bit I thought Romana got fired Fire.
Speaker 4:Fire level con last year. Brendan was before she went to jail, oh.
Speaker 2:Treat 39.
Speaker 5:You guys know that March from New Jersey, used a racial slur, so everybody's mad that she's at Bravo con. On the the Mike Graham. Yeah, they said that there's audio, or her saying something I heard like oh, it was AI.
Speaker 1:I heard it.
Speaker 5:Do you do you heard it? Do you think it was?
Speaker 1:No, no, it was a flip, it was a Mike flip it was. She didn't realize it. Yeah, yeah, I'm here. So yeah, so yeah, I love March and I would usually. I would tell you truth if I really, I Would tell you if I thought it was AI, because I wouldn't want to, but I, the way that it came out it AI, I said that, good, I mean, come on, it was, she was.
Speaker 4:She just said it, she's oh yeah, she said the inward.
Speaker 5:Mm-hmm. No, I usually like March. See, I don't like being off.
Speaker 4:Never liked my. I am not gonna, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, I'm not gonna say word about it, because I was like how reckless can you be?
Speaker 5:Well, I just don't understand why. Bravo is slow to act on some things and quick to act on others. And they just need to be. They just need to exhibit their confused modium of consistency on these types of things and that will help us.
Speaker 1:TLC does it? Tlc. If you even hear you get pulled over, you're done. Oh, you got a charge, you're done. You said this, you're out. Tlc fires you. They have no tolerance for anything, and that's why it's you know.
Speaker 1:But then I think Bravo does this purposely, of course they, of course they do. They want the drama and I'm like that's why peacock, or is it peacock is MBC is gonna, just it's not. I feel like Bravo is just whatever. It's like run loose. It's like the rock bottom of reality television in the last three years. We're like, but they still won't have an HR department that knows what they're doing apparently I think the other one too.
Speaker 4:I think the other one is is is is a hot Mike away from. What is her name? Dolores, is it?
Speaker 5:What do you think Dolores Cantina? Yeah, you think so, really. Yeah, well, you know I, the only reason I was thinking stuff about Dolores is because her dad was police chief and In the heart of town where he was like it's not super cool towards you know.
Speaker 3:And so.
Speaker 5:I, there was. No, he never had any cases. I wouldn't check. He didn't have any brutality cases so yeah, I don't know that he would be. She does a lot of stuff for homeless black ladies. I hope she doesn't slip up.
Speaker 1:She also. You know she was a contractor corrections officer too. So I don't think so. Like I know her and I don't, you never know, I don't know. I don't think that at all. I just you know her mom and dad didn't live in the same house too, like they were separated, really Never lived in the same home, mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:Is that why her and her husband, her ex, was weird?
Speaker 1:so long. I, I mean, I know they never had a reason. This is the thing. After she forgave him for what he did 27 years ago, he was with that girl for four years, so it wasn't just you know, you mean, but she works it. You know, once they were forgiven they were just family that way and there was nobody there to make them have to change their dynamic. When she forgets, right, he was able to come in, be a parent or whatever you know friend, whatever it was, be Frank, she ever spent it, worked really hard to forgive him. Britney's the only girl from these ever had like really brought they just look at engage, yeah, they're engaged like they treat what you see truly what you get. Like they are truly those people I can, I believe, I promise. I believe that because if I didn't, I would have to also question my judgment on their friends and people. That I know.
Speaker 1:You know I mean I would not respect if they were still in business with Frank.
Speaker 4:Don't worry, it's March. It's March why. I know deep in my bones. March like the second for me. Marge is like new Jersey for me.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think of that like that To. I don't know she's Messy, but she's a housewife messy. But you also can't have real friends when your house life, when your housewife messy, you can't be friends off camera. That's just real and that's what happens with that. You know, like Teresa, she's a hard one to defend. Oh, I'm gonna defend, and Dolores is at the point where she's probably gonna stop doing that. But that's what a loyal person, that's what a loyal friend does.
Speaker 5:Well, aren't the Gorgas in some kind of new scam? No, oh, which one? Now? Andy said that he was gonna ask Andy about how he feels about the Gorgas being scammers.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, if they're scammers, I mean they would have been caught a lie. They get their keepskin apparently their scammers every year. They wouldn't be able to keep on scamming. They need to worry about what happened at Jackie's friend's house a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 4:Something scrolled across hey.
Speaker 5:The men of Jersey are just getting to the stage. At Bravo time. Joe came out, frank came out, oh Lou.
Speaker 1:Am I allowed to put it on here now? I probably not, right.
Speaker 5:You know I was playing it from people's lives and I didn't get a notification yet that I was in trouble, so I did I was. I was doing a live, just going from other people's lives hmm, and.
Speaker 1:They let you have the option to screen share or no.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I have present on mine. Do you have it on yours? I?
Speaker 1:do I might. I don't know if I'm gonna erase you guys. Tell me. All right, tell me, if you see, because I only I don't feel it very often, so I don't know if it actually works. It probably right. So what should I get Instagram right?
Speaker 5:Yeah, instagram and who's doing, who's live. Right now all about the T podcast real Andy VH, bravo and blaze just went off.
Speaker 1:You guys can see me right? Yeah, we can still. I'm like I know how to get into my senior streamer. Didn't get out it to do other stuff sometimes. All right, I'm on my date. Come on, don't lock me in.
Speaker 4:No, yeah the thing with it was Joe Gorgas comedy thing. Oh, he got scammed out of His comedy thing and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I put it to your screen, krista, I think now, if you share that, then it'll go up there. I.
Speaker 1:Cannot get to stuck.
Speaker 4:Yeah, somebody took his money he has set up because you know he's trying to be a comedian now. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5:Mean funny. Do you see the window in the back?
Speaker 1:Krista, I Trying to find I can't scroll down the hit share screen because my yeah, I know. Now I can't even get out of that.
Speaker 5:No, no, no next to my picture in the backstage. I just shared my screen with you and did you share that? You should be able to see it.
Speaker 1:Okay, hold on, let me see if I can I get down here I.
Speaker 4:Want pocket size. Yo Gorgas, stop showing his chest. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 5:That's chopped GPT.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank God it wasn't porn, all right, so next your name. What do I do? Hit Um, you see that. Yeah, you hear it. Yeah, is there. Can't hear it? Hold on. Yeah, so I have a thing to make, volume or something we in for none can't hear it.
Speaker 5:Oh darn, yeah, they're introducing Joe Gorgia asking questions.
Speaker 1:Maybe we get in trouble if we can hear it.
Speaker 5:No, it's no music.
Speaker 1:Okay, where am I? You guys can still see me, right yeah?
Speaker 4:yeah yep, we can see you.
Speaker 1:That's my what. I'm glad you guys can see me, because I'm I don't know where I am. I'm not touching anything. I'm almost up now, oh.
Speaker 4:Oh Shabee left.
Speaker 5:Yeah, she said she has to go back to work or go. She had to go.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's good memory. Um, you can have um a great Relationship with your husbands acts, it can be done. I mean, that shows you you're real mature. I wish you guys could hear it, sorry.
Speaker 5:I hear a little bit of something.
Speaker 2:I Can't make it any louder on my end oh.
Speaker 5:I Can't hear it, oh I.
Speaker 4:Can't hear it. I didn't think all about the tea was still around. Can you hear it better? No, no, let me see if I can get it.
Speaker 2:I See drowsy. I'm sorry. I just came off and getting my blood drawn so I'm a little tired yeah you guys can't hear it at all. Uh-uh, no, yeah, I can't hear it at all. Wait, wait, there's something.
Speaker 5:Sorry, you guys couldn't hear it at all, so I just took it off. Okay, you're talking to them right now. Joe forga is saying why him and melissa are so so good in their relationship.
Speaker 4:You know, I think they're made for one another, made for one another. Him and melissa tell you the truth. There they are, they put up with one another I mean Tolerating and have they have a true friendship. I think Joe and melissa, though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they seem like they literally have fun together and really enjoy each other is not only bodies company, we're company. Exactly, and I think that's like one of the keys to a good relationship Is you have to be able to stand to be around each other when you're not having sex, exactly.
Speaker 4:She'll be back.
Speaker 1:I thought I was there the whole time.
Speaker 5:No, I just took it off because nobody could hear it.
Speaker 2:No, I could be there the time with the.
Speaker 5:They are still asking questions over there.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should all right, I think maybe because we're gonna be able to watch it again, again, ever and ever. But I'm gonna wait to get in range doctors to clean it. But I want to do a live. Do a live where we can watch it. Some of the stuff, maybe later. Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 5:But you know, what I'm finding is that they're um well, they're able to go live from this panel again. I don't know how long it'll last, because last time it ended up shutting off, but this is a good one. Yeah, we can stop this one and go back on somebody's and do it live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll be back later, I'll come look for you all. But okay, thanks for having us. I love you guys so much, brenn, for coming on. I earlier this week I said, get ready, I need you on there. But I appreciate everybody. You guys have stayed on this whole time. They've had a really good like people, a lot of people watching us on offer thing, and I really appreciate it because we had a really good conversation and I love that we have different perspectives because we don't we're not a cult, so we don't know yeah, we're not cult people. We don't have to agree. And I think we give different perspectives all the time and show everybody like there's not just one, because your perception is your reality, you know Right, I appreciate you and I like it because you give us the space to do that, krista, but we all still get to love each other.
Speaker 5:It's not like you know what I mean. Like that's the one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just we, only we respectfully disagree and it's like, yeah, that's what we're here for, like exactly. Everybody wants to be a part of the scene or forever. I know everybody looks like I was really excited about these, that everybody came today. I really appreciate it. I love you guys so love you more.
Speaker 4:In a couple hours. Okay, bye.
Speaker 1:Okay, good night, see you. Isn't that crazy, isn't it crazy? Guys, listen, this is what we do. We'll be on here together and then we'll be in the like chat we have all have group chats and then we'll be on the phone with each other because we're all nuts. All right, guys, I love you. I mean, thank you guys. All right, I'll be back later. I think, I don't know, maybe on somebody's, but I love you guys. Um, who started on podcast? I probably didn't let you guys go this long. If I do, I will time stamp everything. So please follow it. Please, all that crap. Subscribe, and I love everybody that's watching. I see you all, and I have a talk too later, and I know, isn't it? It was great. I'm so excited. Who's a good one today? All right, I love you guys. Great family it was a great family therapy session. I don't like that. I'm in my streams. I don't like being nice. Thanks.