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Our conversation gets fashion-forward as we critique the confessional outfits paraded by the Housewives, and even speculate on potential cast changes and future storylines. But we're not just about the glitz and glam - we tackle the serious issue of colorism within the franchise, and the role the producers may play in fanning the flames. Our special guest, Dana Walkie, spills some insider secrets on rumored relationships between reality TV stars and open relationships in the industry.
But that's not all. We shed light on the darker side of reality TV, discussing the ongoing feud on the Real Housewives of New Jersey and the manipulative tactics used by the cast. As we navigate the choppy waters of celebrity culture, we express our concern for Wendy Williams and Britney Spears, analyzing the harsh realities they endure under the public eye. We wrap up with a spirited chat about the significance of podcast ratings, reviews, and a compelling promise for our next episode. Get ready for this rollercoaster ride into the world of reality TV drama!
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Buckle up, reality TV fans! We're serving up some hot tea in this episode as we dissect the drama from the Real Housewives of Potomac and beyond. We're giving our unfiltered thoughts on Ashley's controversial behavior and the complicated dynamics in her relationship with Michael. Of course, we don't spare Wendy and her family from our sharp scrutiny either.
Our conversation gets fashion-forward as we critique the confessional outfits paraded by the Housewives, and even speculate on potential cast changes and future storylines. But we're not just about the glitz and glam - we tackle the serious issue of colorism within the franchise, and the role the producers may play in fanning the flames. Our special guest, Dana Walkie, spills some insider secrets on rumored relationships between reality TV stars and open relationships in the industry.
But that's not all. We shed light on the darker side of reality TV, discussing the ongoing feud on the Real Housewives of New Jersey and the manipulative tactics used by the cast. As we navigate the choppy waters of celebrity culture, we express our concern for Wendy Williams and Britney Spears, analyzing the harsh realities they endure under the public eye. We wrap up with a spirited chat about the significance of podcast ratings, reviews, and a compelling promise for our next episode. Get ready for this rollercoaster ride into the world of reality TV drama!
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Okay, guys, sorry, I think I'm a couple minutes late. This is reality of Chris Marie and the who's 31 podcast. And Give me one second. This is the who's 31 podcast. I don't see anybody in the room yet, but if anybody else is coming into the room I'll give you a couple minutes. But this is gonna be Potomac and we are going to do a little bit of a recap and I'm gonna talk about Ashley Trashley. Hey guys, I see us. Yeah, so let's get started. I'm gonna drop the link. I'm let me know if you guys hear me. Okay, my banner on two. There we go. Let me know if you guys hear me, alright. Um, if you guys aren't subscribed, get subscribed. If you're listening on the who's side of you, on podcast side, you can come over here every Monday, wednesday and Friday and watch the crazy in person. I'm watching the recording live. I Am gonna drop the link so I Do interact with the live chat so that you'll hear me. I'm not really talking to myself, so I'll be right back on the the chat. But camera, sorry, okay. Yeah, I'm just gonna see. I'm back in my room. They're my students and not done yet. It's not the way I want it, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So this is Potomac and I cannot stand actually Trashley or Joe or Robin or any of them. So hello, hello, hello, I'm Shelf. Thank you for coming back. We dropped the calling link to, just in case. Yeah, sorry from the podcast side. Please also follow the podcast, read it, review it, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Don't laugh at my eye. It is half closed. Long story but Wasn't good enough. But my eyelashes on, but I did anyway. It looks so funny.
Speaker 1:But, um, yeah, okay, I look like I'm on an island. I know I brought my. So like I kind of do live on an island, I live down the shore, but like I can't, I love my flowers might plant. So these I actually these are real plants. I grew them outside and I brought them in because I Wanted to try to save them for like next summer, because I was like I'm not gonna throw, I'm not gonna get like they usually have to cut them down because that's winter time, they freeze, you know. So I'm like I'm gonna bring them in this year and so I brought these three in. They're my favorite. I grow them from babies. Michelle, I am a Plant freak. I'm like like snow, wait. You'll see. I'm like I swear I'll snow wait in past life.
Speaker 1:Anyway, did you watch with him? Because, listen, I don't know what they're doing, the Wendy, but I feel like production has a part in it too. Like they're not being nice either. They are not doing Wendy's, her family, justice at all, and like they're not helping the situation. Um, let's a jump up on the thing. When the cat, when I, you know my street, or something, but I feel like the production is, yeah, I feel like production is not doing her any favors and it's like why are they being shady as hell? They had no, like before he begins, that they had no right at the end to pan to her mom and act like she's doing something. Do you do curse thing? You know what I mean. Like, what are they trying to do? And for Ashley to make sure that they brought up the O'Soo thing on camera, that's just as bad as like they saying like you know your husband's meeting with you or whatever, like if you say it on camera, that's a big deal, because that's never goes away. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Good morning, I think I forgot to send everybody on notifications, but Then I was going live, but you guys usually know I'm here anyway, but, um, yeah, I was just saying how I feel like I don't know what they're doing, the Wendy, but Ashley, trashly, she can go, like next season, if I'll be good if Robin's not here, robin, giselle, they can all go. Literally they can all go, because like they're all in on this and Robin's gonna act like she's friends with this neck a girl Like, are you serious? Like I'm confused too. Do they know each other, wendy and her? Did they meet? Did they not me? I don't know like what. You know, they met at a birthday party. They didn't need a birthday party, they meant passing. Their cousins know each other. The brothers know each other. I don't know Somebody like I don't know, I don't know, but it was like pretty awful.
Speaker 1:But like I said like starting out and I really kind of did recap notes, but you know, like I said, wendy's not stupid either. You know what I mean. Wendy knows Ashley's not her friend. At least I hope she realizes Wendy's not her friend. I mean Ashley's not her friend Because you like, she was just trying to create something, like I said, it's going to affect her family and it did. And and the fact that Michael, I don't believe Ashley either, that Michael, she doesn't know anything about Michael and Candice's suit, like, get out of here. Like, first of all, ashley, like you, and Michael are still on your thing. Like you, guys, this is the same thing, like nothing has changed, except we know what your deal is. Yes, she's wearing a collar, she's wearing a um, it's a GPS collar.
Speaker 1:Because I'm like Really fucked up, guys, my eyes really fucked. I got something in it. Really bad list actually it's. I'm gonna copy on beyond so do it was. I know is eyelash glue gun in it. Really bad, and I Was used to not wear them. But I'm gonna bring up on the show. But it's fucked on it.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, where'd you go? Did I get rid of you? Oh my god, I think you would drop back down. Come back in, um, yeah, oh, and Mia too, oh my god. First of all, again, mia can go too, and that's another thing. Mia can go. Yeah, I'm a bit proof. Yes, exactly, she proves no loyalty to Wendy and I love how Bravo do Bravo, did she hurt her, though? Like they did that? Um, what they do that song when she was approaching, that's me she was approaching, but, um, yeah, they. She wanted to say I sue on camera. You know she did. But um, you know, like Robin said, turn says she feels bad for us, for wait, we're wasting our time. She feels bad for the people that are sitting home wasting their time wearing about her wearing life. Okay, robin, you're boring life, hey.
Speaker 2:Hey, that was quick. I didn't know I'm gonna come on that quick. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, because I have my headphones on today.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, it sounds good, sounds good. So, all right, you feel like Bravo went. And what are they doing? Why would they be doing this to Wendy Like?
Speaker 2:I don't get it either. I feel like they are also in an alliance with um zeal and Robin to bring down Wendy. I really don't know what it is. Um, what's interesting? I don't know if you watch Atlanta.
Speaker 1:You watch Atlanta?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, there is the same production company that produces Atlanta and I just feel like they are Slowly letting these shows Crumble like. I look at the other house, last show specifically, and there's the heels, so I feel like it just got muffled a little bit. Oh no, hold on, I might have to just take it off my headset.
Speaker 1:It was good in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this headset is weird. It costs money, but they sucked.
Speaker 1:I know I had. You should see I had so many pairs, like when I first started this. I I have like a whole basket of like Earpads, everything, and I'm like forget it, I just don't even use them anymore. But but, take your time. I don't know if you have to get your things situated, but yeah, I like I couldn't even take. I'm like, first of all, we got Ashley trashly, then Robin sitting there saying it. The table wants to say something to Robin, but she's going to say to Karen that Everybody's out here wasting their time worrying about her boring life. Okay, her boring life, right? Um, first of all, your life's not boring, your life's pretty Interesting. You just keep it behind the paywall. You know what I'm saying? Like you decided to keep the most interesting thing that's ever happened to it was one cheating on you again behind the paywall and not give us anything. And it looks weird. Let me hide it. Um, you there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm back. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1:That's perfect, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Trying to take myself off the camera because I'm in the middle of doing my hair. I don't want to um show that anyway.
Speaker 1:Oh, I cursed again. So darn it, my eye is so bad. I got eye glow in it, right, but did you think I would not wear eyelashes today just to save my poor eye from going blind? No, like it's. You know. I wish that I literally Like I shouldn't do it every other day doing this, because it's like I don't give my eyes two days to rest before I put that on. I'm like I got it Definitely Like it's bad. I didn't have a black eye from it, but anyway, hey, dragon magus, that's my love bean right there. It's brandon, um, but yeah, yeah, and also robin. Oh robin, like we are the ones wasting our time worried about her boring life, she feels bad for us like no, robin.
Speaker 2:Um, like, I did you know what, and I did feel bad for robin. I I don't know if I really actually did, let me think about that. I don't know if I actually did. I felt I felt like he was playing her and I felt bad that she was allowing him to play her, but I feel like now she's a willing participant in him, in whatever he does. So I just feel like if something happens again, if something pops up, it's just we should really just shrug our shoulders, yeah, and I guess, look the other way. I guess that's what she wants us to do. Look the other way. So I don't want to, because I don't like robin. Like, and it's. That's one of the reasons why I'm like I don't like robin. You literally let this man walk all over you. She gives everybody else more smoke On the show that she actually gives him and he keeps saying he's a nice guy, but he's not nice to you, robin, he's not nice to you, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's good to his guys. I love my guys. I love my guys. I just love you, love your wife Like I don't know what it is, I don't know if they got my like. Honestly, I do feel bad for like in that way, because she's so dumb or she's like she's like she's allowing it because she can't do nothing about it. He said I don't care.
Speaker 2:Right, I don't, and so, because he doesn't care, she's not supposed to care.
Speaker 1:Right, he's just yeah, exactly Like I guess she's supposed to care and he's not supposed to care. I guess, according to him, yeah, she cares is what he's trying to say. Who cares what we care, what we say? Who cares that you're on a national television show and your wife goes through? It's it enough. You guys have a boring life Like she's boring as it is.
Speaker 1:And they have no chemistry. Okay, it's obvious that that bar scene when she tried to wear that wig and I'm like Remember she walked I don't know if he says she walked in and they were like trying to date night. I was like Bad yeah, and I don't know what that briana chick looks like.
Speaker 2:But I don't think the one that, well, people say I haven't. I saw a picture of her and she looked kind of fuzzy in the picture. People say she does look like Karen. She does have, uh, karen same complexion. She also has a mole on her face and, like some people say, she's like a younger, like maybe Karen's younger daughter or something like that. I, like I said I saw like a fuzzy picture of her. Maybe people, some people are, some people do stretch because they don't like Robin.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I. I mean I don't like her because she thinks we're stupid or I don't know what they're doing. And then they seem to her and Juan on the stupid um, like whatever they roller skating, or like I don't know whatever they were doing skating some type of skating. Act them like they're all in love Floor. I'm like this is not what you guys do, like we're not stupid, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't, yeah, I remember uh-huh yeah it's like where are their kids at anyway, like I haven't seen their kids not one time this entire. Well, it's, but I was only three episodes, but.
Speaker 2:I just wonder if he's going to show up at the reunion this year. I just that's, that's that my biggest thing. Is he going to show up this year?
Speaker 1:I don't think you. Well, he didn't show up last year, didn't he? No?
Speaker 2:he never. He hasn't shown up since the um Michael wanting to, you know, do things to his. If I'm not mistaken, I think that was the last time he showed up, if I'm not mistaken but, he's um. Yeah, I feel like he has to. I think he has to show up, because I honestly feel like if he doesn't show up, robin could lose her job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, listen, because, especially since he was the biggest part of her story and he she kept it from like Andy, like pissed Andy off last season.
Speaker 1:Right, like you better get your shit like you better like talk about your shit, because if not, you are gonna let you know what. Robin can go, mia can go, giselle can go, can't actually can go. I don't know about necky yet. Like I really don't feel like we need. We don't honestly like Giselle is only good when she's with her daughter. Yes, that's the only time you really see Giselle Like when she's not coming after anybody or like she's just being herself like and goofy, like her goofy self and like.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. I wish we would tap into the goofy just Like. I wish she would just become that with these girls, even when she's like with the girls that she's cool with, she I don't. I don't like Ashley either. I don't, and what. And the thing is, when they're together, all I see is them plotting, and that is another thing I don't like. And to watch the necker on this show, especially the last seat I know we haven't gotten there yet all I saw was, oh, these girls, I don't know, I don't know if you remember the, the conversations that were had about I think Candice is the one who boarded to the forefront that, uh, ashley, ashley, giselle and Robin Robin were plotting to come to Monique with the story back in season five that the you know she was cheating on on her husband with the trainer. So I feel like that's what they do, they. They get together and they plan and plot on what the story is going to be. And I feel like there's enough of them that feel like they want to go against Wendy.
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't know, but for what like? What did Wendy ever do? You don't mean like.
Speaker 2:Well with Giselle. I feel like Giselle. The only thing, that, just the only thing I feel like Wendy has done to Giselle is when she, when Giselle came after Wendy's marriage not last season, but the season before Asking what the question is about. He was, you know, liking big booty girls on the internet, you know, on the, on instagram, and is that the reason why she decided to get surgery? Because she's insecure and things like that. And it's when she I guess she doesn't like when they come for her or when they Retaliate or they say something about and yes, wendy had some venom in what she said, but it's just like you can't Dictate how somebody reacts to you know you coming after them exactly, and I just I mean I don't think Karen's, I mean I love Karen, I think Karen looks, she looks, this is her best glow up, like Karen's got, like the glow up of housewives history.
Speaker 1:I don't know she looks younger and younger and like she just looks amazing.
Speaker 2:Did you see her this past summer? I don't know where she was, but she had like this bikini on on a balcony.
Speaker 1:I just like to see it. I like, I mean, I'm like, because I mean she's like Up there in age, like in over 60, right.
Speaker 2:I think she's 60 now, because they were talking about her 60th birthday on the birthday on the show. So she's about 60 now. Yeah, I wish I.
Speaker 1:And Wendy, where am I with Wendy? Or no, wendy, mia, oh Wendy checking on Mia. I'm like, why am I my notes not? So yeah, I don't know. Oh, traditional marriage. I'm like, what am I here? Am I? Where am I at here? Robin, stupid confessional, oh Robin, her confessional now has a figure skater outfit.
Speaker 2:I hate that outfit Because promise I do wear that last season, or it was just both of them that bad.
Speaker 1:Like time reward, one like some kind of figure skater thing. Yes, they're all wearing these weird confession figure skater outfits, but that does look like her confessional from last season. Now I know I think about it. It's.
Speaker 2:I was with you Monday and just I know I hate jumping, but I feel like marisong's white Uh statue of liberty outfit. Didn't she wear that last season too?
Speaker 1:Maybe either I must have said I stared at it so many times or like couldn't believe she was wearing it. Maybe or maybe she did, because Maybe that's very reminiscent, I don't know. But like when they see themselves Like they must have to plan their confessional looks right, because they know. Maybe a lot of them. They get to go there like they think they know, when they're filming them.
Speaker 1:So what would make you choose that Like I don't know, like. Do you not see yourself on, like they have to have, like some type of mirror, like in front of you?
Speaker 2:I don't have a mirror. No one does any um camera checks, even if someone has an apple phone like. Like, sit down in a chair, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry statue of liberty. Do I look like big bird like Karen looks like big bird in hers, got yellow with the one with the hair on my Karen.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I appreciate that they try different things and they give us different looks. It's not always the same. I do appreciate that. But there are some misses, like I think every year someone has a miss.
Speaker 1:Every year. Well, it's not all of them. I mean, like I'm like Jesus, like what is up with these confessionals? And then Ashley, she's just dressing, like Say, she can find, like, come on, I thought she had her boobs on last season, but I guess not. Um, I guess that was wendy, right, but, like you know, kind of like she can't find anything to wear. That's why she was late to wendy's thing.
Speaker 2:Right, that too. But girl, go a size up, just go a size up on a tailor and like to tailor it to your boobs. I feel like she makes the big deal about understand it's a it's a reality show and you have to make big deals of things to make it interesting, I guess.
Speaker 1:But naming them. Who's calling them that? Michael?
Speaker 2:No, he probably has.
Speaker 1:I'm not stupid, we're not stupid. Their relationship has not changed. Everything is from day one. They've always had some type of an arrangement, like there's no way that, like like he paid for that vacation, that's the only reason he was there. They've never had sex. I mean they have to have sex twice to have the babies, but I mean like there's nothing has changed. So I don't actually, like you know exactly what's going on with that Candice lawsuit that makes me know exactly what's going on that Candice lawsuit.
Speaker 2:I also think that um Michael probably paid for those boobs, so he has seen them. I feel like he is over there whenever he wants to be. What if they're having sex or not? I don't, I don't know, I almost don't care, but I really would not be surprised if they were not. Um, I wouldn't be surprised if they were, were not either way, actually, because it is a situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think David want to. I don't think he wants to sleep with her. Honestly, I think he's like. I think she honestly was his arm candy or his wife candy or whatever. Back when it wasn't. I guess him he didn't think it was cool to be gay or bi or whatever he is or whatever his situation. But like I don't know, I, I, his motive had to have been that right because he had the money right, or just to have a trophy wipe. Her motive was obviously money and they probably both agreed to this. Then he just made her look stupid. So they have to do a divorce Because you know I'm not gonna act like. You know we have two babies now and I'm gonna have to act like I care Did he gets caught cheating.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, yeah, that's why I agree, that's what I believe as well. Like, I feel like she didn't want to leave the marriage and leave the money behind and he was fine with her, you know, being over there and allowing him to live his life. And then also, he doesn't want to be on that show, because every time he shows up on that show, whether he likes being seen or not, he Fire comes to him.
Speaker 1:Like how do you sue somebody for what they're saying about you? But look how you've acted on camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why I hope this thing is thrown out. I don't like you lost business. That was during a pandemic, I don't care, everybody lost business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's gotta be out of his mind and it does. I mean like this it's either I just I'm saying like either day you got to go, or Candice. And like Candice and Chris got to go, like Wendy's gonna have to leave the show because, like they're all coming for them, like yeah, they all got together and they want to go after Candice and Chris and Wendy, like and I don't think, and I think me, I she's, they're just leaving her on the dust, because I think she's just stupid, like yeah, they're her. Say that, that, that, wendy, you know, when you don't even know your kids. First of all, wendy knew that your kid had a speech impediment and that's why she did it.
Speaker 2:Or, or I Don't agree with Ashley on a lot of things, but what she said about Wendy like Wendy, I'm sorry. What she said about Mia of Mia using this as an excuse and writing it as a Reason to be upset, like she was right about that, like when I was thinking it before she even said it. So when she said it, I was just like dang, dang, dang. Okay, ashley is not dumb, she's like. Ashley sees it for what it is and it's it also is infuriating. I this is the thing with Mia. I appreciate her authenticity. I really do. Some women will come on these shows and will not be as authentic as she is, but she's also a liar is so weird. Like, how are you off any? But you're still a liar a whole liar.
Speaker 1:Like a whole liar. Like there's no way everything that she presented about her life was fault was just Exaggerated, and you know, and you know. Like you look like a bag of shit. Do you look like a total bag of shit anymore? Like did not, and I guarantee it was like her and Gordon were spending the money that he weren't supposed to spend.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's the reason why they stepped in. Like I really feel like his family didn't like what was being portrayed on the show. They probably did question like, is she running things and is this? You are using the money.
Speaker 1:The doing if she's running.
Speaker 2:James, right, right, but um, wait, wait, wait. I was gonna say something about the girls as well. When it comes to me, when it comes to Mia, will also infuriate me with all of them outside of candy, not candy Candice, wendy and even Ashley is the fact that what even Ashley is to a certain extent, because she allows it, is that they allow her to Still come back in. You had they had so much issues with Monique Having a fight with Candice, but Wendy is my Wendy. Mia is giving all this grace Like she threw a pocketbook she, she, she went, she left and she came back like Like when did it Wendy and her?
Speaker 1:or should not be. They're not friends like you. Totally women do not. You're not gonna get invited to her family thing.
Speaker 1:No no, her, like you actually like, tried to, like she threw a drink on her, like you said, when after her with her purse, and Also when Wendy's tell them all about her talk show, do you see the role in their eyes? Like again, what is Bravo like? I don't know? Bravo is feeding into it Because they're, they're feeding into it. They're let's see that shit. They're letting us see how Ashley started everything with NECA, like or you know.
Speaker 2:And I appreciate them showing us. I appreciate them actually showing us. I feel like it was almost a Larsa Fifth and moment, like you know, like we saw it over here. Well, we saw her literally lie about everything that she said because they were going back and forth at the at the actual conversation.
Speaker 1:And why did you invite Sesame Street again? I know we're stuck at this party, but like, why are you inviting her to your? She didn't have to be there. It could you know you had the cast there. You knew that that was gonna be an issue for Wendy and for Just that, or no, I'm sorry. And Ashley was gonna be there. I mean, but like you, you just proved that you are not. I Just, I don't know. I feel like Wendy and and Candace will have to leave the show, if not because they're coming now, they're going after their family, like now her mom, when her mom realizes what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh, my because like go ahead. I'm so sorry, mm-hmm the Nigerian thing like I? Do you really believe that one of their family members will call another family member saying your call, using my daughter's name to get on the show, like I? Yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Do I do and I'm gonna tell you why. It all stems from that lie Ashley just stole, told. I feel like it's still something like Ashley told she probably went back and told her mother, told her sister, probably on a three-way call, and that spark the oh, I know what's her name again, I know her through this person over, through that person, they probably did reach out and they probably did ask questions and they probably and just watching how her mom was praying, watching how her mom was praying and that and that at the communion on reception, I Was like I was thinking her mama Her mama did and thinking back to her mom went on an online tirade towards Mia last year after the drink talk and she is protective of her daughters, like she is loud, she is boisterous, she's unapologetic, she she protects her kids with all you know, everything in her and she wraps it in Jesus and Jesus name. But I don't think and if there's a shrine is probably an altar there.
Speaker 2:You know different religions to have altars, um, but I feel like she was putting stank on it. She was putting some little spice on it so To feed it to Robin and Robin does gobbled that up and and maybe just being like it was bigger than what it is. Like I feel like they're making it bigger than what it is like. I know, you know, like, like if Candice's mom did certain things towards Chris, I feel like they would say something about it. But we at home should really be like we know her mama don't like Chris that much, like we shouldn't be too we should read so much into it. You know, I just feel like we they want us to read certain things into it and I feel like it's their laziness, like there's so many other things y'all could be talking about or doing like.
Speaker 1:I know, like Again, like I said, like I, they're gonna waste our time with the bat. We're gonna waste our time with the Chris Bassett like to really cheating, or I can't take this freaking camera, the cheating room of a Chris Bassett. I know that's gonna have to come up and deal that stupid again thing. That was Justin the blog just recently. I still think log sometimes like I can't believe. I still say blogs, but like we're gonna have to waste our time on that. We already know what happened she disappeared. She was alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I said like I even said before this season started that Ashley and Chris are gonna have to, or Ashley I always get so confused so I'm saying the wrong names constantly like that Candice and Chris are gonna have to leave the show. And like again when you have to leave the show too or I think. They're gonna have to go.
Speaker 2:I think the net I think in that girl was the person that came in to replace it's gonna be replacing Candice. The couple of reasons is Candice has been saying I may be the last year, two years, that her plan, their plan has always been like Get to five years and see what's next. So, and I think this is her fifth year or maybe next year.
Speaker 2:And that's good, that's good, and I feel like just the way these things are breaking down. She is not in any, she's not a part of any group scene. Thus far, the one scene that happened, her first scene, I think her first or second scene she was with her manager. I didn't see, I didn't actually see that full episode, but she was with her manager. She came in with Wendy this one time.
Speaker 2:She didn't go, she was at the I'm sorry, I forgot she was at the communion Branch but I just feel like she's not making a big splash in the group and you have to make a splash in the group, I feel like to stay relevant. So I feel like she might be phasing herself out or the show might be phasing her out with Ineca and If you keep a necker and Wendy on, I feel like you actually kind of have a storyline, whether there's a fallout of their relationship. Hold up, you know I like to produce a show there's a fallout of a relationship and then maybe next season it's a read it's them coming back together because, like in that cassette, we're supposed to be sisters.
Speaker 1:In Nigeria we're considered sisters, so I Saying that, like I was, so the sisters I mean like yeah, we can call each other, but like so that really is something they do say, like a lot in Nigeria.
Speaker 2:Like You're, like you're my sister and like that's how you, like you're supposed to my family, even though we don't know each other, but like especially when they come over here, like there's a, there's a community that they create when they come over here and like it's this their community and they're like sisters. They have ultimate respect towards their elders, their elders, even if they're not their family.
Speaker 1:They consider them like, like how they do it there, like shots, sunset, like their families are, so like they're all family because they all came over here together.
Speaker 2:You know right and they're, and you give them respect. Now I will. I will say not I probably it might not be every Nigerian culture and every, but some that I've seen, some that I've witnessed and some that I've been told to buy, like people I went to school with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, ashley's trying to get in the middle of them. I mean, you're like Ashley's trying. No, actually that's stupid. She lied on purpose, like she purposely started shit, like you know, like I Would. They knew each other. But see, they're trying to try to use this show. This show is gonna say, oh, ashley brought her in. Or again, I went, ashley brought her in. But really they should have had Wendy brought her in. Really yeah yeah, you're gonna act like Ashley know her. I don't think Ashley know who she was, did you?
Speaker 2:Right, cuz my thing is, even if a neck of new, cuz my thing is okay. First of all, nick, you cannot. If she ever comes to us and says I never watch a show, you're a liar. I are liar cuz a fetish if you don't watch. But told me you watch Miami, because I've never heard anybody say cockies that didn't watch Miami absolutely. I'm gonna leave that.
Speaker 1:Cockies that lose. It was my amy that said it, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Mark Marisol says it, and so I'm like either you watch Ultimate Girls trip to understand the the Candace I just sell dynamic maybe or you've been watching the house wise and you watch Miami just to get your Understanding of the show if you haven't already been watching it as a fan if she watches Miami, she watches all of them then too. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Come on, because Miami, by the way, that's good is becoming my ultimate favorite franchise right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This is which one is coming your fate other favorite.
Speaker 2:This is my least favorite right now really my yeah, and I hate to say it. Um, I Hate to say it, Potomac and Atlanta are becoming my least favorite. I hate to say it as a black girl who Potomac not to tell me, atlanta was not my first foray. I knew York was my first foray into the house, wise, and then Atlanta, but just to watch these shows just deteriorate. And I think you said it, it's because they don't have an actual friend group. And Miami has a friend group, that a Real friend group.
Speaker 2:And even the new girls that come in, they like they, they bond, they come in and they and they don't have that on this, in this circle. And you're right, why didn't Wendy bring in a necker Like, why didn't? Why was she the one? And I feel like they're doing that because they want to. I don't know if you were where last. I think you were like the whole colorism thing. I feel like it's because I have an issue with this dark skin girl. Um, and we don't have to like, see, when Wendy has an issue with you know, a woman of every hue, it's not just us.
Speaker 1:So she's like a light, like she's like Candice's color, like she's like really Candice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I and I hate that they're doing like. I hate to see that there's these two Nigerian girls Like. They're so similar similar in different things as far as you know profession, their lifestyle and everything like.
Speaker 1:I feel like they should not be fighting. No, you're right, they shouldn't be. And then brava is not doing them any favors by like, perpetuating it, or but you know what I mean, like they're, you know, robin is that they're doing they know what they're doing and I just feel like I'm just like what's gonna be the comeback?
Speaker 2:like there better be a half. That has to be a comeback to this, like how y'all gonna heal this, because we already see you. You shade Giselle once. She don't want to deal with you, no more. You shade Robin once and it's, it's, and that's the thing with Robin. I'm sorry, I just got to go back to Robin and Robin and what's the girls? And and Karen, karen. I want Karen to keep the smoke with Robin. Yes, because from season one to last season, that girl did not stop. She was relentless. Like you want to talk about raised taxes? You talked about raised taxes. Guess what happened? You had a tax lien on you. You have you want to talk about? Oh, karen doesn't live in her actual house. It took you forever to build your house. Like You're not here with that you're you want to talk about.
Speaker 1:Um.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1:He was the one that dressed up and did the pizza delivery. To right the pizza delivery.
Speaker 2:Like you go, you go that deep to get back at Karen or to go at Karen, but you have. You have a small issue when she, when you bring up a girl in Georgetown, your man is cheating on you girl Like don't be mad at her. Like, because your man is cheating, it's out there and really any woman that he's seen with somebody's gonna question. He could be seen with your mama, people gonna question you. So that's how I feel about that.
Speaker 1:No, it's true, Like she's. You know, like Karen had her issues at the very beginning, right, like they all had they at this point they've all had taxed it. Well, karen and Giselle and Rob, they both had tax issues. Robin to as now, has had tax issues as well, so it's like they went after Karen. Just, we know like oh, a delivery, like not, you know that she doesn't live in her house member. Even Robbins want to wear the t-shirt One time about the taxes. Like you know what I mean, like you're right, like she just, and like, oh man, I haven't seen right. I hope race all right, you think.
Speaker 2:All right, okay too. He probably also was taking a step back from the show. I feel like all the men, really, if you think about it. I saw um Chris in an interview and he was talking about he doesn't even want to do the show anymore after what happened last season.
Speaker 1:Right, and then and look what happened between seasons right, look what happens between seasons.
Speaker 2:And then he's in that same interview. He was saying how he talks to you know him and Ray are cool. He's cool with Eddie, like they all talk. You know, amongst the guys they have their own. I think he said I have a group chat. I can't remember. They all talks amongst themselves and they basically said they'll support him. You know they support them and what you know, whatever they decide, because they understood as well. So I think maybe he's not showing up because they're not gonna emphasize the men so much.
Speaker 1:I mean I wouldn't, if I were Chris, I wouldn't be on there either. I Mean honestly, because I met him. So he came, he was the guest at Zach Peter show and back in Philly last April Okay, he was one of the guests, I was. He was really freaking cool, like I knew he was a cool dude, like a down-to-earth cool dude, and it just, and that just happened to be the month that that chick said that she had met him.
Speaker 1:The just recently girl I don't even want to say her name, do you have or anything that like the chick, she's from Philly, she's like, yeah, I'm six months ago. It was like she said all kinds of stuff but that would have been the April and he was in Philly in April. But like he out the bar the rest of the night and like took pictures and hung out and like drank and he was cool shit, and like he said that he said it that night, like on stage he said I'm not, you know. He said, and this was before the other thing broke out he said you know he's, he's pulled, giselle, you know they forget, always forgiven. And he thought maybe like it was done in over with or whatever. But like you know, apparently she was brought it up again. So again, like I wouldn't be on there if I were him and they've they've gone after Karen too, like with Ray in the marriage too, like the last season. They said they told her if she was sleeping around giving blowjobs and shit. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I'm calling Ryan, asking Ray if she's, if you really knew about the driver or something I don't know, it's so disrespectful Poor Ray, like the disrespect, and I'm just sitting here like Because the men in your life have no respect for your relationships. Don't know that you can tear down other people's like Okay. Holy for like, oh my gosh, I can't.
Speaker 1:We got pastor holy whore. We got Juan who who knows he's? He's given random women money. Right they just happen to lose their wallet. But Robin didn't know about it, but it was so. It was so Innocent that Robin didn't know and she, you didn't tell her, you didn't bring her and did the girl pay you back? I mean right.
Speaker 2:Like, the girl paid you back, so she was so comfortable having conversations with you on Instagram that she was Able to come pay her hotel bill. You then tell me I asked why did you have sex with her? And I was first my girl why? You asked that maybe. Why did he have sex with you? And you said did you see her? So if she was beautiful, if she was lovely, if she was, if she smelled good, you was gonna try to highlight her like he was gonna go upstairs with her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't mess.
Speaker 2:I said Doesn't that tell us? That's that it's an open relationship on arrangement.
Speaker 1:She's trying to be cool, she's trying to act like she because she said we don't have an open relationship. Well, why are you asking him then why he didn't sleep with her?
Speaker 2:Did she say the she's okay? I Don't know that's an open relationship, I don't care. She says she didn't have an open relationship to Karen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not only because one wants it to be, not because I think, I don't think Robert wants it to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think one needs to be. I believe that yeah.
Speaker 1:Because why did she marry him? But you know what, though? They gave me a hint though, because one of her confessional she says he's 100% Not guilty. I know he did everything right. So that you're implying that you know something about what happened. Yeah, that goes to court, you have to testify, but if you marry him you don't. So that's the only reason I think they got married, because I she Let the judge, let the prosecutor, prosecutor see that I'm sure she's, you know.
Speaker 2:Gaster, she, she, she can't say anything. She, there's nothing there.
Speaker 1:She can't, and we'll be married if she can't testify against him right, Right yeah but you're sitting there implying that you know something, so apparently they think you know. You know what I mean. Like Don't say like, like, like Lisa Renna used to go. I know Erica didn't know. I know it's like, if you, how do you know Lisa? How do you know that? For sure, lisa, you know what I mean. Like you're gonna have to go to court and maybe testify, if you know that for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Right, that's when you become larsa and be like how do you know? How do you know?
Speaker 1:How do you know that cancer? What? How do you know that doctor? How the doctor know? How's the doctor know you have cancer? How does the cancer know you have cancer?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bring back to Miami. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:This episode because I honestly skipped a couple. I skipped through a couple scenes because it was like so, not like I didn't really. Yeah, I like you know, I'd like to watch him to sell what her daughter Cool like, but we need more of it. But she still brings it back to how she always is. So I'm like, whatever, we don't get much of that. I did appreciate her, jason, where's he at again, I don't know. I guess he's not back. I don't know why you there.
Speaker 1:I thought they had chemistry. It looked okay, like a good relationship. I don't think her daughter would have met him if it wasn't a kind of a relationship. I don't think she does that. So I do believe that it's a real relationship, but I don't know why he's not back. But they did break up, though, right ever since then. Maybe.
Speaker 2:I don't. I think it's a situation ship. I feel like it's a business arrangement. I do feel like there may have been um times had I feel um, but I don't think it was of Of a serious relationship, because I feel like if she took this relationship seriously, yeah. He would not have this random guy. I feel like he's a random and if she was really in a relationship with him he wouldn't have met her kids so fast.
Speaker 1:Well, that's right. But well, that's the thing though. That's what I thought. Like I thought she let him meet the kids because she did really like I don't know because like again, think about though, too Like does he even want to have kids one day, you know? That too like that, but like.
Speaker 2:Right, but I don't again. I don't feel like. I feel like this is just a fun time to be had, but him. Right, I mean for blip and I also feel like for him. This is publicity like there. I don't feel like there's a lot of people who watch winter house. I don't, I know I don't watch winter house. Yeah, I don't know a lot of people who watch it, so I feel like it could be trying to get more eyes over on their show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like well see, I didn't watch it when it was the mix of summer house and whatever. Now I just noticed they had family karma people on there. Right being other reality. So I might start watching it, but I don't when it. When it was, I remember him on summer. I stopped watching summer house when when desert hannah were disgusting were on there. And then I know, like I you know I missed the whole thing carl on lindsay, but like I don't even know him from either show, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know of him from the. I didn't realize he was the same one that got lindsay pregnant. Um, yeah, yeah, yes, so yeah, like she had a miscarriage, or, of course, miscarriage Um, great, great in the beginning, right before her and carl got together and it was. Poked up with that guy, jason, who was in the summer house, the the summer before and that, and then somebody last um weak, reminded me that that's the same jason. I was like, oh my god, that did not catch on to that.
Speaker 2:But there's my come over here. I get some news I didn't know about christa.
Speaker 1:Thank you, A lot of stuff, I just I got a lot of stuff I can tell you what. Um, I saw another show. Huh, trying to get dana walkie to do. I actually presented to her. I said let's do a live once a month and because I'm always teasing the information she has, because she has so much of it. But you have to go. Get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she has a lot of information.
Speaker 1:Yes, I said let us do and like it will spill, like the four major things you know, because she does give a lot of a way too, and um, so she didn't answer me back up, but I think I want to start because I mean I it would give her a lot, you know, more people going to her patreon because she lost some people. She lost, like, oh, people, yeah, we have a podcast where we're not podcast wars were going on, people podcast, people were breaking up. A situation happened and now yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, there was a lot of that going on because she was talking about another one the other day. I was watching her. I was like another one.
Speaker 1:I love her, though she's, she's um. Let me say hi to Aaron Aaron. Hello, aaron, used to be my who started you on co-host, like on my um, if you go my channel, I go my chipping under the the podcast part. Oh, we have like a whole probably like 30 or 40 episodes of her and I Um, she's always here. I have, like I saw already in the chat, but there's a lot of people but I don't see them talking.
Speaker 2:Right, I was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like there's people on twitter watching us and everything. But, um, yeah, like, I just I don't know, like I, I don't know, I feel like this is going downhill. Definitely, like, if this is what we have to look forward to, it's a lot more of the same shit, of Ashley Trashley, robin and Juan playing in our faces, her saying she doesn't care, her trying to switch Again Robin. At the end she is trying to like, switch everything, like everything. All eyes off of her. She doesn't really. Why are they trying to make her and Robin be friends? Not getting Robin? That's weird.
Speaker 2:Because to bring her over to point her at Wendy, that's when I really feel like just to bring her over to point her at Wendy. I do not like this show anymore. I hate to say it.
Speaker 1:I can't just say it Because. I used to like something else at this point.
Speaker 2:Right, because I used to actually love this show and even when it came out that it was about the premiere, I was like I don't care, they're going to give me the same thing, they're not going to like each other, there's not going to be any resolution. I don't care. Do you watch, mary? Wait, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:No conflict resolution anymore. We used to get conflict resolution with all the franchises and it was like candy cotton, candy drama, throwing wines in people's faces, and we didn't have to go three seasons of the same argument and I feel like when the criminal stuff started to happen and we got really addicted to that and we were like oh, we were like we thought, oh my god, oh my god, we couldn't wait.
Speaker 1:The ratings are up at then now. And then we figured, after the criminal went away, the shows that didn't have the criminals weren't going to be successful anymore. And you got to remember we had 13 years of no criminalistic behavior and we had cotton candy drama, no toxic behavior like Jersey.
Speaker 1:And everything was perfect, the ratings were amazing, so we can do that, but this is just like. What do we do? This shit is just. Not only is it toxic, it's like dark, no, like the Osu stuff, apparently. That's really really, really bad.
Speaker 1:So to say something like that about my family on camera, knowing that rumor was already out already and it was like put to rest or whatever, but then I didn't hear about it, so now probably a million people never heard about it I don't think I got shot down, but then like to bring it back up on camera, it's like to me again, that's just some shit. That like, what are you doing? And like Wendy was, she played like you said. She played it cool and thank god, because I feel like, too, they want her to be angry, they want her to get angry and react. She knows that, because I think Garcelle knows that as well on Beverly Hills, because she's been called angry Like I feel like she is not going to let them see her. She's not going to let them call her the angry black woman. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean Like.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to get a reaction out of Wendy as well, and it's like dark. I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't like it either.
Speaker 1:I don't and I really believe that if Giselle and Wendy I mean I'm sorry if Giselle and Robin and Ashley and even Mia Mia is like irrelevant, if they don't leave I think then Candice then like they can't all come back together, like Wendy and Candice need to leave, take their families and go.
Speaker 1:Wendy does not need the money, you know, she really doesn't, and they're just going to leave this and Chris, because Candice is very successful their singing career and is getting more successful and that's like they said. You said this is I. Hopefully this is her fifth year. If not, I think they should go because I don't think like Michael's now going after her Like come on man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Michael, you piece of shit. You got caught your pants down. You wanted to suck at Wanzi. You grabbed people's butts Like what are you talking about? This ruined your Ashley, because I really do think he lost business over it.
Speaker 2:She was commenting on what she saw on this TV that he put for like and what everybody else was commenting. And it's not and I think Karen even said it, it's not anybody's fault that she just know how to make it sound worse Like. She know how to make it just make it sound worse Like hurt your feelings. That's what she does. She hurts your feelings, candice does Like.
Speaker 1:Still Well, michael, hurt your feelings.
Speaker 2:Dude I mean. But he, I mean, yeah, he did it himself, he did it to himself.
Speaker 1:He has fucked himself so many times and I really too, like I think this, I really believe this. I think that there was cameras in the basement when he grabbed the butt of what's her called, and I think that's a name. I think they actually did him a favor by not whatever, I don't know. But then the turn it, and then I think what happened is they turn around and screw them over. I think, right, what's their name, chris, and who? What was their name?
Speaker 2:Monique.
Speaker 1:Monique and Chris, yeah, like, and then I think Monique and Chris did them a favor and then didn't they turn around and just screw them over somehow. Like, I really do believe there's cameras, because how do you have cameras everywhere in your goddamn house, everywhere you know they have cameras everywhere and that's a real reason Except the basement Right and then brava, I mean come on, and it just I feel like that, you know, did they do them?
Speaker 2:I too think listen, I'm not putting things out there, I don't know, because I know what that man's name, Chris, has a lot of business dealings my understanding in that area. Maybe they ran in the same business circles, him and Chris and Michael, and, like you said, he did him a solid. I feel like the payback from Monique to Ashley or Ashley to Monique, was her writing that statement against Candace. I'm going to go back to what you said about the darkness of these shows. Yes, there is a darkness where there's criminal aspects of the show that I feel like that takes over these shows. But then there's also an aspect of the fighting that takes over these shows, because with Housewives I'm going to go even farther back With Andy. I remember one of the things that he said, like one of the things that they tried to give the vibe of. It's not a VH1 show, it's not the love and hip hop Atlanta shows that they fight. They might, you know, get into tussles or whatever, right. So they get into tussles and I feel like, since the Monique fight and people in the chat don't get mad at me, I'm going to come back to what I think some people are thinking.
Speaker 2:Since the Monique fight, I feel like they have constantly been going so close to that, but pulling back but not fighting. Does that make sense? Like they are so mean, so vicious and I'm going to even put Candace in it too, because I mean, candace has a vicious mouth. Mouth is vicious and sometimes people want to. Sometimes people get to the point of wanting to physically attack people. But you're supposed to be so above like these women are supposed to be so above fighting, that they're not supposed to lay hands. They're only supposed to be verbal with each other. And I feel like they get so verbal with each other that they don't want to even be around each other because there's no level of even liking this person to begin with. They're just like I'm just your coworker and the minute your coworker disrespects you, like I can work with you and not like you and give you the cold shoulder.
Speaker 1:But in real life though. If somebody came after you in real life like that, would you be friends with them? That's not. It's not realistic to be friends with that person in real life Like you know what I mean. So to force these people again they'd be on shows. Now they're not friends anymore. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:They're all screwed each other Again, like with Miami. They are all still really friends, like and they do get past their shit. You know, look at the dynamic that shifts and they're all still friends last year, this year, you know what I mean and just recently, honestly, with Beverly Hills. I know that they're not real friends, but did you watch Beverly Hills? Yes, yeah. So see how much nicer it was that when they all got along.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And it was fake with Erick, but like it was enjoyable to watch. Yes, I actually enjoyed watching that. I enjoyed art faking it, you know yes.
Speaker 2:It was so much and the whole leaf and run of it all. It made it so much better without her. But go ahead and take it.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine she was there? She would have ruined that entire thing. Even Sutton couldn't ruin it Like.
Speaker 2:Rashmi Sutton gave us more stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1:I said, oh my god, I got through the entire thing with my notes and not one negative thing. I said not one negative thing and I couldn't believe it. That hasn't happened in years and it's because of Erick. Erick has taken 20 years off my life, same as Jen Shah, but, like you know, it's more with Miami, like now you see how they all are rallying around Gertie, except for Larissa. Larissa makes it better. So but I mean that's what we need. And these shows like you're pitting families against each other. You're trying to get people to come out of the war and say your husband's cheating on him, or you know, he smiled at me, he smiled too much, or you know what I mean. And now that didn't work. So now you got this girl saying that my family's O'Soo, or you know, like bringing up the O'Soo thing, like and it's because they have it.
Speaker 2:I feel like they haven't even tried to cultivate relationships, like they haven't even tried to, because my thing is like they don't work. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I think Karen's tried with everyone. Like Karen's, I think is the only one that does try to really have a real friendship with people.
Speaker 2:I do, but I feel like they also need to work on a friendship, even when that camera is off. You know what I'm saying, like, even if it's like I'm trying to work on this alliance, like work on something, even when the camera is off. So when the camera does come up, like we do have some stuff to like dig into, like you, yeah, I just, I just go ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Because even the beginning of the last season, when it started off, I'm trying to think what the no, no, no, no. I take that back when the way it started off if I did not know what was going to come during the season, the way it started off it was promising. It was almost like the girls from the beginning are getting back together just to see how everybody's doing, just to talk about what's new in the news and everything as far as within their group, and then it just goes downhill from there. It just goes downhill from there and I feel like they need whoever is producing these shows, especially the Potomac's and the. Oh, I think the same person, I think the same company, produces Potomac, atlanta and New Jersey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the thing is evolution.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel like they need to go back to the drawing board and if you want to keep any of these women, you need to find interesting women that's already in their lives to bring to the front. So it needs to make sense and it needs to matter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly that right there, that right there Because Giselle and Robin I don't feel like it matters, because this is just an alliance, this is just y'all working together. Y'all get along, because I feel like Robin just goes along, whatever you say, and if Robin disagrees, you acquiesce to Robin because you need her in this situation.
Speaker 1:That's what it's about for you, and I think Robin and Giselle set them scenes up. I don't think Giselle was really questioning Juan's stuff. You know what I mean, because you mean to tell me that they've been doing podcasts together, that these two women haven't talked about this shit already, so you mean to say you're going to have this intervention for it. This is also to act like you have to act like you care what Juan did. You know what I mean when you know that Giselle and Robin have the same male and like, when you confront me about this, it doesn't look like it. Make it look more real. You know what I mean, because then Robin with Juan coming down, and then their scenes are fucking made up and fake too.
Speaker 1:They try to prove to me oh, we have a real marriage. It's not coming. Nobody believes that your marriage is, I don't know, maybe real, but it's not traditional. Nobody believes that, Robin, Like honestly, it's not like. Oh, we have a traditional marriage. For people to question my marriage, Robin, stop acting like you're manning us. She's manning us, everybody else.
Speaker 2:We've lived and we just see what they show us, and what we see is not nice to you. This man said on camera that he wants to be met. He wants to be with somebody I think he said he didn't love her. He wants to be with somebody that he cares about. Like this was years ago, maybe season one or season two. Like he was not there for Robin, Like he was literally there for their kids and I'm just like did you wear him down, girl? Is it just like he just trusts you with the life insurance? Is he like holding on to you because you got the money after you lost all y'all's money before?
Speaker 1:Well now he said, don't have no job.
Speaker 2:Don't have no job, nobody going to hire him. No no way. For multiple reasons. You had a losing season. You had losing seasons multiple, and you was involved in that court case. Bro, who going to hire you?
Speaker 1:No, and your head coach is fucked up and you fucked up with him, right?
Speaker 2:Unless Cherise X has been hired him because he's a coach somewhere, isn't he? Is he still coaching?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I think no, I don't think so, but could Chav maybe hire him? Maybe Chav could hire him.
Speaker 2:He needs to learn how to do football. He needs to transition from basketball to football.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there you go, but still, I mean, like in his life as a criminal he is not the horse and her, so obviously he's OK with criminals, so hire him on. I mean, I just came up with that, that's pretty good, huh? Yeah, I mean listen, and again, I don't even feel like we can move on to other.
Speaker 1:We can talk about other cities actually, if you want, because I didn't watch Salt Lake yet, so I didn't watch Salt Lake, yet I always purposely don't, so I don't start talking about that because I save it for Friday. But do you watch Jersey, right?
Speaker 2:I'm in and out of Jersey. I told you the last time, so you'll probably be telling me about stuff with Jersey, what's up.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think, because I said I was going to talk about it, but I won't talk about it live to airing. I'll just say this I'm trying to think is there anything interesting? I mean, everybody kind of knows everything, I guess everything that was going on. But that was going to say too but Jersey, what you see on camera is the reason that it's so real, even though it's very toxic. It's got very toxic because of Louis, it's because they really hang out in real life, everybody on camera, except for Theresa, because Theresa made it so that everybody won't be friends. You know what I mean. That's why I went on this rant on Monday, but that's why that show works with the guys. But so well, because they really do hang out off a camera.
Speaker 2:But they're actually. Let me ask you that question. Let me ask you a question because I want to ask this earlier. Do you watch Mary the Medicine?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:OK, if you can, if you have time in your days, I would say, put Mary the Medicine on your list, because I feel like Mary the Medicine has that level of everybody hangs out outside of the filming, and then their men, their husbands, are also very involved.
Speaker 1:How many seasons has married men? Is it like eight right now?
Speaker 2:They're on 10 right now. I was right. I would say the season to start, or it was good all the way through, I think was a season. Six is really. There was a season when they literally saved a marriage Like they were about to get a divorce, wasn't like five of them about to get divorced, though Like it was, yeah, one of those one couple.
Speaker 2:And then the wife's best friend, her husband. She found her husband was also cheating and it was like really bad. It was out in the street, it was public, and then About it like from here, like from here yeah. You know what, or even maybe I don't know. I see Mimi Rhee's answer is talking about Mary the Medicine because, like right now this current season Kwa, she's a regular on the show. Her ex-husband's new wife is coming to the show.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Are they friends?
Speaker 2:Well, on this last episode, on this last episode, she showed up to her Bachelorette party out of nowhere. She just popped up on her Bachelorette party and Phaedra, from Atlanta, she's on the show now. Yes, phaedra is messy.
Speaker 1:She's really with a doctor right.
Speaker 2:She is, but they don't show the doctor. They put like a little clown face over the doctor's picture, so you don't know. And then like in real life, she just wasn't real. Just recently she said she quote, unquote broke up with the doctor but she's saying that she's dating somebody else. Now. I don't know. I don't know her spager.
Speaker 1:But then how she even able to stay on the show then, like she's not really married to medicine, right?
Speaker 2:Like Mimi Rhee. Neither is Kwa Neither Like a going line after Kwa divorced her husband. Like some of the while she was like you're not even married to medicine, my dear, You're not even married to medicine.
Speaker 1:Why are you here? Because she wasn't. She wasn't at one point. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1:What did you get on the show Like, did you lie about this guy or something?
Speaker 2:I am convinced that Andy and Phaedra are like best friends and I feel like Andy is probably her oldest son's godfather or something. I just have this conspiracy theory and he's always going to look out for Phaedra whenever he can because he feels like Phaedra is good TV.
Speaker 1:Somebody else told me I wanted to start watching Love and Marriage Huntsville too. Like I started watching it like just recently because my friends, you know a couple of the people, they all cover it. But like I wanted that and never they've ever told me that. And married to medicine, I have to watch with a two. I don't watch like.
Speaker 2:Matt, I will put marriage to medicine before. I love a marriage, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like it's just like Vanderpump, you know, but like seriously, they're like it's just as messy. You'll love it.
Speaker 2:You know it's just and their friendship they like. They really have friendships and their friendships have been divided because of certain things that have happened New girls coming into the group. It's a mess, but yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean Like, but it's not. You know, like I don't, I don't see. Sometimes I don't really mind the little bit of the criminal stuff because I mean I can't believe how stupid they are and like just how dumb of a criminal you are to go on TV and like. But like you know, because it was kind of funny with Teresa, because at the time I was also committing more Like I also committed mortgage fraud, like back in 2008.
Speaker 1:I'm from Jersey. I was doing the mortgages and you had other people that were, you know, the lawyers that were doing the mortgages. Then you had, like the realtor that was giving us the mortgages to do, like in 2008, hit, we all committed mortgage fraud. So, like when Teresa got caught and Joe got caught like I last, because I'm like wasn't the first time I did it Like they were just so dumb about it, like they go on on the show right, and then they don't pay the thing they don't. They get caught right and the people go. Well, you know we're not going to prosecute you because it was his partner. You know, just pay it off. You know, make sure you continue to pay the mortgage that you put in my name or you know, or like I'm going to you know, we're not going to have any choice.
Speaker 1:Well then, they decided not to pay it. So that's how they got caught. Like you know what I mean, like, how, and they're on the TV. Like, how are you that stupid?
Speaker 2:Like I don't know, like let me ask you this question, krista. Let me ask you this question and I hope I don't offend you If back then Housewives was in your neighborhood and they was like we want you, krista Ray.
Speaker 1:No way. Well well, no, well, well, well, I would. I'm more of a Jersey Shore, you I would.
Speaker 2:I'm more of the Jersey Shore type, actually, you know you mean the part of the party for the party at the Jersey story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if Jersey Shore asked me to be on it, I was definitely because that I was the drink. No, that's what we did. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:But see, to put that shit on camera. I said there's no way. When it was filming or when it was on Jersey Shore I was also on drugs, like I was going through the whole pill thing. When Mike was like you know, I was like, wow, but I would in my, I didn't know that, right, but I would watch them and go. Man, I could never be on any shows, some a drug addict, they would never have me. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I had no idea that he was struggling like that. You know, I love him for that and I, you know, because I was like and then with Teresa too, like I always felt like such a loser, a piece of shit, like because I got caught. You know, I'm like, I'm honest about it. You know I would never have one on TV, like I definitely Would not have one on TV and I like no way because I was so afraid to get caught. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I Should never, you know like a level of shame, like I feel like that's one thing that some of these people they don't have.
Speaker 1:I hate my dude like I thought of them.
Speaker 2:Right, but you, you're doing what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1:You're yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, do you know anybody from the cast?
Speaker 1:Not personally. No, I live closer to like, like the housewives people.
Speaker 2:I feel like you and snooki would have had like a great time, like honestly.
Speaker 1:That's what we did. Like I, I watched him and I, like I still love the show. More money this time around doing family Jersey, foot the family, what I call it, I forget whatever they call it now. They're making more money now than he did the first time around smart. Perfect group of people. They, how their chemistry, they're like it still to this day is still amazing and they could not have picked a better. They could never recreate that. They've tried it. It can never recreate it.
Speaker 2:Sammy harsh, sweetheart, come back. Yes, yes, how did that go? I didn't watch it All on Bravo. How did that go when she came back?
Speaker 1:It's just good, like her dudes with her, okay. So so they say everybody welcomes her back, and you know they have their little fights here and there, but not with her. And I was like no, it's not gonna work with her coming back, it's gonna feel weird. I just kept, I don't know, I kept thinking this one's come back, it's gonna be weird. Ron left, ron's been gone. So Ron, he's gone, right, but like so then they're on vacation and then Ronnie comes back for like a day, but like Jenny didn't I mean, I'm Sammy, didn't see him, but he's not coming back on the show, her, only her. Her issue was when he leaves, I'll come on back on. So she's permanently back one. So he's not gonna come back on. He got a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna take that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's still struggles. I feel big because, I get it, I was an addict. I still struggle, like not with what I did before, like I speak weed now, but like you know, I get it, I get that sucks because when you do have to, when you're on a reality show, you just have that microscope. So much more on you, more pressure and he's, you know, and I feel bad. Like you know, I watch Mike. He went through and I was in present to like I know how hard it is to quit pills, first of all, like I was doing it for 27 years, you know, or 24 years of my life and it's just only been like 10 years, you know. So it's watching him just do so well and still be on the show and like you know. And then I watch other people struggle. It's hard to watch.
Speaker 2:I feel like with Ron I don't know his life, but I just feel like, even looking at him back then, I feel like he looking at him back then, being older now, I feel like he had demons that maybe were just too big for him to like fight alone. So he kind of what's the word Like? Kind of leans on drugs maybe. Yes and I get that on a level too, like my drug is my one or so. It's fine, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Like you know, it's a way you yeah you understand what you need for yourself, but I just but something that I just feel I just want. I just hope he finds something that he can lean on.
Speaker 1:That's not the lesser of all, the two equals. I call it like yeah.
Speaker 1:Because his drug of choice is cocaine?
Speaker 1:I have to say, largely I don't think, because it's on there now and I struggle with that at one point, like I kind of did everything at one point as addicted to whatever was you know cocaine and it was like ends up really bad at the end. But like so you know I do, like I, I meth was never a problem but like a kid didn't hit Jersey until like about eight years ago and you know I was on Adderall so I was abusing as like it all became like it's just like a cycle, is like addiction transfers. So unless you figure out, like the lesser of all the e-mails, are you figure out what is causing you to be the addict? Because even before, like I was addicted to like shopping, like I didn't realize what addiction was, addiction transfer. And so you have to either fix the problem.
Speaker 1:Like people fix the symptoms when they go to like rehab or they go to you know detox but they don't figure out why they're gonna be there's still, you know, an addict or an alcoholic. So you know. And also, like I went to rehab 17 times for other people when I Parents made me go or the courts made me go. I never went from until I went for myself is what.
Speaker 1:I find you know they're like these guys, like you know they're. They're John Ronnie has kids but, um, he's a daughter and everything. It sucks because it's like, if that doesn't stop you, what will like? You know, like I said to my girlfriend and she's an alcoholic, it's really bad. I said, okay, so what is your? What is the bottom line Like, what will make you stop, like if your kids didn't? You know what I mean. And then that, and that makes me really sad because it's like then I feel like you know.
Speaker 2:It's bigger than this is bigger than you.
Speaker 1:While you know which I was, so not Jersey with John Fuda. Okay, allegedly oh, not legit. He was, um, you know, cocaine dealers addicted. He had to cocaine back in the day. You know he ended up getting clean and fixing his wife. He met his wife and you know he has his son. But his girlfriend at the time, brittany, who has his son, she didn't. She's still in prison and you know, just recently she just happened to come out of the woodwork, which obviously Louie went and found her. She was in prison, you know, and all the stuff came out about him being, you know, cocaine addict, whatever, and just recently, just because he got in an argument.
Speaker 1:So obviously, if you bring up Louie to somebody who's drinking to, especially John Fuda, the night is drinking he's gonna lose his mind If you side with him. So everything now, every time John Fuda goes and loses his mind over something, they're gonna say, oh, you, you must be back on cocaine. And now they're accusing of being on. Then, oh, he was at this party and he got all crazy and he did, he was doing cocaine again, like it's like, okay, were you in the bathroom with them like Doing cocaine, unless you were in the bathroom with them doing it like you know what I mean. The people say oh, he had, he was doing cocaine. Listen, he was probably drinking. And now, because you know, somebody went out and found out what he used to be, it's like come on now. So now he's doing interviews like defending himself. It's like that she shouldn't even have to right, he's an even have to.
Speaker 1:Like Louie fucked with his family. Don't bring that dude up. Like you see how I say I get over that dude. Imagine being John Fuda. It's like Like intimidating your son and like calling his mother and like making him her come out and embarrass herself and then embarrass him like that and embarrass John, who he has a family and a business and, like you know, it doesn't matter if John had money because, like, addiction doesn't discriminate and sobriety is free. So Brittany chose not to get clean John did you know and Unfortunately she also chose to speak on your speaks, like on some shit, and got in trouble to go back to prison over it.
Speaker 1:Like you know, they brought her back out of the woodwork, out of her prison cell. She was in halfway house and because she spoke at the on this stuff, she had to go back and finish her time, which is fucked up, you know she did. She did it herself, but like it's because you know Louie had reached out to her. But do you think there's people had her back when it came down to like that? No, they don't give a shit about her.
Speaker 1:No they just wanted her out there just to embarrass her.
Speaker 2:Baris down yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the shit that Louie does, and that's why I don't like him, because it's beyond just what you see on the show. Now you know he's not a good person.
Speaker 2:He's not a good person and it's, and I'm like You're. I feel like he's shooting shots at people who Is not even really in it, because what was John food? And even in this whole situation, when he started firing these shots? I mean they're part of the cast, but I mean, you're, is this your tactic to keep everybody? Um he's on bay on guard.
Speaker 1:I don't understand. That's what we don't get. He's a fucking weirdo. That's the weirdest part, because nobody understands why he decided that he was. Everybody on the cast wasn't cool when you hired a pi Before you were even cool with these, so these people were cool with you.
Speaker 2:So did Teresa say something like because now okay, so now I'm looking at Teresa. So, teresa, did you say something to the fact? Margaret always has a? Margaret has something on everybody? And then he goes back and said, well, fine, I'll get a pi.
Speaker 1:I think the thing with Margaret is when Margaret was the one running her mouth, the first season of Louis was on Then. That was the first season and I said Margaret needs to shut her fucking mouth.
Speaker 1:Because, Teresa has told her two or three times now and I understand it because I'm the same way. I agree with Teresa on that. So ever since then she has not. Teresa doesn't let shit go right, no matter how many times she will on camera will forgive Margaret. Now Margaret is our enemy. So that gave Louis the add-em-out you know, the a right to go after her entire content creators.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to tell you something because you probably don't realize this, but I had another podcast called housewives and headlines recently, last year, and the person I was co-hosting with got a cease and desist from the Gorgas because I didn't notice time. Allegedly she was getting paid by Louis to have a smear campaign against the chaos and that's frank. In March In Louis Stoneness with more with multiple people other podcasts I'm not going to say who they are, but people know what I'm talking about. So I he she also fucked me over, like because that happens, and I didn't realize that she was working for Louis and I'm not going to drag the Gorgas because I don't agree with it and I don't agree with the tree stumps.
Speaker 1:I don't agree with any of it. I don't agree with the negative. You know this person. I don't. I don't want to say her name, but somebody else in the chat can say her name, if you want. She's still a content creator, she still has a channel. Still, she still has a podcast, but we don't speak Because we had five episodes or four episodes, because this season says that had to be trashed and I and she also only um decided I don't know it was the whole thing, but anyway, like he, just the things that he does I hate. Like he just that's something that he did that was like so fucked up and that's like one thing, but like the things that he did, the Margaret, it's all vindictiveness and nobody knows why. Nobody knows why he was so hell-bent on on like Smearing people. It doesn't make any sense. Like everybody was trying to be cool with him Because he was. People were happy for Teresa.
Speaker 1:You know, when Teresa's happy, everybody's happy right the fact that she has now no relationships left in her life None, not a one man, except for her kids. Like, why do you think that you're gonna film with me and be my friend if there what you said on at the reunion? Remember you don't fuck with any of us, remember?
Speaker 1:Right quite clear. She's fucking scream like a banshee and everybody and said nobody's, really she was not friends with anybody except for Jennifer Aiden and and and like maybe, and like you know the loris, because the loris is so jersey loyal to her when camera and in person, or you know, but like behind her store she tells Teresa when she's wrong. That's what a real friend does, you know. But you know that show, like, unless they switch the dynamic there, nobody's gonna want to watch that shit anymore. I'm not gonna watch it. I can't stay watching it. Oh, so you're gonna, are you?
Speaker 1:gonna review it when it comes back?
Speaker 2:Fuck no, because it's all bullshit, because everything that's filmed late see this happened last season everything they filmed Before they started filming.
Speaker 1:They already knew about that sit down. I knew about, everybody knew about the sit down with loralee that Teresa had with Jennifer Aiden and loralee that was going to have Melissa exposed as a cheater and Teresa knowing about it and wanting it to expose the Melissa. And you, joe, knew that they had Joe. It was a Joe's house, they had Joe. I'm sorry, had Joe come over and try to get him to leave his wife, leave Melissa, you know, trying to say he's, she's. You know what I mean. Like to tell your brother to leave his wife after 20 years. What the fuck like?
Speaker 1:So then, when they film there, that's why they did nobody like knew they were not going to become friends and I'm like watching it, I'm like this is bullshit. We all know with, like you know, because by the time they got to the finale, well, this is said, I knew the whole time. That's why Joe wasn't coming to this and that's why we weren't doing this and that's why you don't see me and Teresa being friends. We had to go through a whole, I had to watch a whole season of filming of stuff and I knew what's fucking bullshit.
Speaker 1:They knew it was bullshit and I was like I'm sorry, they knew it was bullshit and I knew Teresa was setting everybody up and I knew she wanted that cheater gates come out and it's all a crock of shit and learn these. A fucking piece of shit. Because that's Margaret's best friend. How do you tell? Of course you know all her secrets, you're her best friend, for why are you telling on her asshole? What kind of fucking friend does that?
Speaker 2:and for what she was gonna be on the show. I thought she was gonna get on the show. That was just her wrong play.
Speaker 1:How stupid is she? Robbo said no to you four fucking times. If you want to be on the show, you stay friends with Margaret asshole. Yeah, you become one of her, but you do what you're doing. We know who um Fucking the other chick is and she's not on the show her assistant, lexi. We all know who, lexi is.
Speaker 1:After us. Because you know why? Because she's a whale, margaret. No, you decide to call the two people that are gonna laugh at you in the end, because what they did is laugh at her. They're like huh, you're not gonna be our friend, you're, you're snitch, but thank you.
Speaker 2:So we're on the street. I think we talked about this on Monday. We're on the street is jen fest. There's no longer friends with Margaret too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like Margaret did something, I don't want to talk about it, but like Margaret did something nobody's, and like I don't know. Okay so to do with, like her messiness or her, having an or an or so against arsenal.
Speaker 2:Okay. So my question? Because my thing was at the end of last season, I just thought there's no way they're going to keep these girls together and the logical thing to me, the logical thing was to go ahead and spin off. Because I didn't, because the thing is, I was just like just take Teresa off, because when they start touting this, this boldness of this is my show.
Speaker 1:Right there, you called it. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it's still going on, still going on, but anyway, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So Bravo has a tendency of, when a housewife gets too big for their bridge to stay, kind of stroll them off into the sunset, like Vicki Gumbel's been in a sec. So I thought they were going to kind of do the same thing to Teresa, like at the way she was talking, like this is my show, I'm not going to talk to you guys anymore, almost like you're gone, bye-bye, yeah. So I thought, well, just sit her on her way and let's see what the ones that are here gives us.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:And at the same time I was just like I don't want to leave her alone with Louie. I don't want to leave Teresa alone with Louie.
Speaker 1:We can't have. We need eyes on her. I thought I believed that what they did, because they did not want Louie back. They don't want him. We had the shit that he even did with, like this security at the reunion and everything. First of all, nobody's going to film with them. Okay, so that's a problem. And nobody and the Melissa like Melissa and Joe. First of all, they would be fine If they lost the show. They would still be okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, the lores will always feel with Teresa. The lores never goes against Teresa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I feel, like Daniel.
Speaker 2:Well, daniel and Jennifer Daniel.
Speaker 1:Cabral, she went against Teresa, yeah.
Speaker 2:Who.
Speaker 1:Daniel Cabral, the new girl.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because she realized that she knew she was being used.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she knew.
Speaker 1:She did it anyway. She did it and she became the minion and she literally made her shirt, or as it looks, stupid as hell, because I don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't know if she knew she made herself. She made herself. I feel like she didn't know she was making herself the minion until she made herself the minion, but I don't know she. Right, because she was like I'm so sick, like girl, get over it. Like this is like just.
Speaker 1:And your brother? Do you know her brother sent a cease. The reason why we'll never find out what the deal with her brother is Because when her brother found out she was talking about on the show, he sent her a cease and desist. That's why she couldn't tell the truth about her brother.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, they didn't look nothing to do with her. What did she do? It can be just.
Speaker 1:Because she's a weirdo. She's such a weirdo.
Speaker 2:I feel like she just wants to be a star.
Speaker 1:I feel like it is very much so, very much so. Yeah, her Instagrams are weird. They really are, man, her TikToks are fucking weird. I can't get into them. I just couldn't get, I couldn't understand what she was doing. And now, but look, but my brothers and sisters, they think I'm a joke too and I would block them too. If they were laughing at me and if they were constantly joking, like making fun of what I do on my, my social media, I'd block them too. You know what I mean. So obviously, like that wouldn't be a main reason to like kick you out of my wedding. But you know, obviously there was like way more to it, but like I don't know, it just so how would you feel about a Teresa spinoff?
Speaker 1:That's never going to happen. They because they listen. Tracy, when you give Andy an ultimatum and that's kind of what she was doing you lose. And Teresa is not smart. You guys have to think about this. She's not like, she's like me. She can't finish sentence, she has ghost writers. She does not answer questions. She doesn't know how to have an argument. She doesn't have to have a discussion. She can't speak like. You know what I mean. Like I can't speak, but like. So who am I to say? But I'm just saying like Teresa is not smart. She's not a housewife any longer. The way she fights with people is just stupid. She's just dumb.
Speaker 1:And I'm sorry, teresa, but like you sound stupid, trying to sound smart, like when you sign. It's trying to sound smart. You put your foot in your mouth. You're trying to have Louis parade himself on your podcast and further abuse Vanessa riser emotionally and, like you know, all kinds of ways, cause I don't know what that judge is thinking, because you know he did hire a fucking patient that has been proven to go into her caught into her practice and ask like you know she was a patient and to see if Vanessa was talking about him, to see if he was obsessed with her.
Speaker 1:So, like what in the? And what fucking I'm sorry I got to say this real quick what FN judge? It says that's okay. It says you're the problem, vanessa, you're obsessed with him, vanessa. And then then let him go on and then like Melissa, five fees or fees there was not going to have that hat on her podcast because you know, and like for Teresa to think that's okay. What the fuck is wrong with you? Like your brain, what is fucking wrong with you? Like you know better, but you're not going to say shit because you're so loyal to him and it's like crazy, the shit that he does is fucking wacky. He's still doing wacky shit and why do you think it's like? Why does she think it's okay for him to hire somebody to do that?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, thank you for bringing this back, because it reminds me. I feel like he makes her feel protected and I feel like I'm really thinking back to how Joe I feel how Joe for her man. I don't know if I miss Joe for her. I just don't feel like this guy is the right guy for her. Fuck, no, yeah, no way.
Speaker 1:Cause the universe said you didn't learn the first wall.
Speaker 2:Maybe she's the right guy for her.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we are in here. The universe said you didn't learn the first wall.
Speaker 1:Maybe she didn't learn the first time and it's like he knew how to play her and I just fucking knew how to play her, like it. Well, louis is. Listen, he is a true Nars. Listen, vanessa, but I was not lying. His partners aren't lying. He's thought his partner has done interviews with Dana.
Speaker 1:Listen, there's so much stuff about him. It's so horrible that people there's more stuff coming out now like so bad about his company, like he prayed on her. He's a narcissist and abuser and like that fucking thing on the beach. We forgave him for that. But like, this is what Theresa does. She brings his random dude to dinner table and look what's fucking happened. Theresa, now done the way you did Now. We're never going to get rid of him. He has severed every relationship in her life. He's not the protector.
Speaker 1:In the very beginning she probably felt very protected. I even believed in him in the very beginning. I did. I said okay, she's happy. I didn't know all the stuff about him. I really didn't. I and I have digital proof Me and Aaron talking about it when she was.
Speaker 1:I was on her side with him in the very beginning and then it's just, I couldn't when he said the no, no pajama thing and just things that he was doing. And then I found out about the, what he hired her and I'm like, and then she fucked our podcast and I she left me hanging Like she, oh my God, he. The last thing I needed was an issue and have more like bed the karma on my name or bed bed juju on my name, because my brand only got fucked in the very, in the very beginning cause I was very like I ran my mouth too much. You know the harsh reality that was my evil twin. You know she got me a lot of trouble. I am the good witch. Okay, like you don't need to be shit on my name, since it's been like two years, three years now I haven't had harsh reality has been out of the picture, like you know. And then she brings like the smoke to my our thing and I'm like what the fuck are you doing? Cause everybody found out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Everybody found out what the spirit came in cause. Dana doesn't want to crack the case and then she made up a bunch of lies. Louis had to make up a bunch of lies, a bunch of shit that wasn't true, and put it out there, and that's where the seasons assist came from. And then fuck our podcast Like, oh, it's so horrible. And then thank God that happened though, because then this I would have never turned this back around.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was so discouraged that I did bullshit all summer and did like bravo news and I re recycled news like everybody else does. It was kind of boring and I'm like I need to make a decision. And then I was like, fuck, what am I the turn who's starting one back into a podcast and put on podcast platforms and make it something. And that way I'm not sitting around going, I need to put pockets. I'm not doing it, I'm not doing this. Instead, like that way I could do this and that this is the podcast and this is also on the platforms.
Speaker 1:And I'm also a reality with Kristen Ray, because I mean I talk about other shit too, but I should be doing who's starting one, like I said I would, but like it's kind of hard to argue with, like Potomac, because I'm not like it's Robin and like no, like who's starting my number on any of their sides. It's like those girls against the other girls, you know, and I think, like the, I think Candice and Wendy need to leave because if not, I think they're going to take their families down. They're going to keep trying to take their families down. And then you got people like Tasha K that'll give you an interview before she even knows the full facts. You know and people watch Tasha K yeah.
Speaker 2:Tasha K, she just uh, for me Tasha K is a shock. She just throws things in the air and there's, and I don't, and I don't necessarily want that type of journalism, I guess you could say, because my thing is, I want my. If you're going to be a shock, give, give me the shock and facts.
Speaker 1:Real facts.
Speaker 2:Real facts right, or things that are, can be substantiated to. Substantiated Like. My favorite shock job of all time is Wendy Williams. That's my girl.
Speaker 1:I miss poor Wendy.
Speaker 2:I miss Wendy so much these last two weeks. I'm just like, oh my God, if we had Wendy Williams, it would be amazing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Could you imagine her taking not to over the stuff, but will?
Speaker 2:She would have with, with Will, with, uh, sean Cones, with all of it. It's just like one of the first people who was talking about it back in the day, Like so she would have been like I told you, I told you, guys, I told you. Replay the clip.
Speaker 1:Yes, play it back yet I don't think she's doing all right. I don't think this is my theory. Okay, and everybody knows I I don't call them conspiracies because they're facts. You know, the CIA did make up the word conspiracy.
Speaker 1:They made that word up but, I feel like you know, maybe she got caught up with the Illume and you know they got taken out and now, like, like Brittany and her, and they're all mushed, their brains are all mushed, like Justin's mush, brittany's mush, I mean the binds as much poor Wendy's mush, like their brains are mush, it's, it's. I don't know if they clone them and like now the clones are are failing because they're not the same people. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:Brittany's not just saying people.
Speaker 1:It really is like.
Speaker 2:I know people who believe in that. I don't, because I feel like it really is like a testament of like, what is it? Brain health, like brain health and your mental health are, like can be one and the same. And like, is it like it's drugs? I feel like drugs, and whether it's prescription or over the counter, and alcohol, like all of that I feel like is a part of it. And then also, yes, people around them Like, I feel like there's I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was talking over you. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, I, but I feel like that would like. But see, wendy was a functioning addict for a long time. Right, something else is wrong. Like I don't think it's just drugs and not. It's not like I feel like it is drugs, but I feel like there's more to it, like I don't know, like I feel remember she passed out the one time.
Speaker 2:She passed out that one time. I feel like, okay, did you see? Did you see her gosh? Her lifetime movie.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And then the little after thing that they had, like the one on one conversation they had with her.
Speaker 1:With her feet. Was that the one with her feet?
Speaker 2:Her feet up, like I feel like I want to say it started then, because like no, yeah, I want to say it was all starting then and I feel like she was also becoming an inside person, like she always said, like she didn't have to go out the outside the house, she liked being inside by herself. And then also and they also at the same time, like knowing her divorce settlement, like how her divorce settlement was set up I was just like girl, was this a plot? Like, was this all set up?
Speaker 1:I mean, I forgot to like. I think that that affair probably broke her too. Yeah, that could have broke her mental health.
Speaker 2:The baby, the baby. I think the baby she knew about the affair Is. She knew about the affair. But I think the baby also set her off, though she made some quips that she made some learn that were like so funny. It's journey's birthday. I'm like, oh my God, wendy.
Speaker 1:I know she'd be like I'm fine. Now I'm fine, guys, See, I'm good. I'm good, I'm like Wendy.
Speaker 2:Wendy.
Speaker 1:Jesus, wendy, are you good, like I mean, look, I mean I'm kind of like that too, like I'm like I'm here for it, I'm like I'll be great with her. I'd be spray-pain the fuck out of that house. I know all day long bitch, let's do it. Just don't tell. I mean like what's just good behind the scenes. Don't tell nobody, you know like.
Speaker 2:I hate the fact that she's not. This is. I hate the fact that she's not around. I really want her to get. Well, I love the fact that, the fact that that man signed that divorce agreement where, like, he only got his alimony as long as the show was going and the show was on, like you were an idiot, sir, well, thank God, thank God, but thank God. You are but um.
Speaker 1:But he was like the creator of it, right or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he likes to claim, yeah, he claims creation of it. Um, but I mean it's Wendy, like without her.
Speaker 1:I mean it's Wendy fucking Williams.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:I got pissed when they tried to buy. I was pissed when they were doing all this, bringing all these people in and like, trying to like, trying to see who was going to replace her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Mara, what do you mean Like?
Speaker 1:it's not Wendy Williams. Show without Wendy Williams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Wendy passing out was strange. You were right, mimi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like that didn't sit right with me. That's when I got alum. I got an illuminati vibes. I'm like, oh man, what are they doing? Like what's going on with her? But like I do believe, maybe like her mental health because of what Kevin did to her and then, like we said, she just never really got over it. Like how could she? How could she?
Speaker 2:How could she, but I was like he fucked her over again. Yeah, like my dream would be for her to have a podcast. Like for her to like turn back. Well, have a podcast once or twice a week, you don't?
Speaker 1:have to be on camera.
Speaker 2:You don't have to be on camera, you can just come through every once in a while. Just tell us, talk to us for a good hour, hour and a half and be out Come on YouTube.
Speaker 1:But come on YouTube, wendy. Hopefully we're all whack the fuck out over here. Like Wendy, like honestly, like at YouTube she would make listen. I think she was a little bit like Bluetooth is not as you know what I mean Like I think that we understand that she's going through stuff. Like you said, come talk to us, like we can have a real conversation with her. You know whether she's watching us, or not, we care, we just love her, you know.
Speaker 2:But I just feel like she doesn't have the right people around her. I just she just doesn't have genuine people who want. I feel, like the best for her.
Speaker 1:You think her son does Like? Do you think her son is?
Speaker 2:Well, the last time, the last thing I heard, the last thing I remember, should I say, was she didn't want him around or she was pushing him out too, but that was a while since, I've heard I wonder if, like because I wonder like who does really have her best interest with her money and to like really take care of her because she can't take care of herself.
Speaker 1:I wonder now, who's taking like? Who is really doing that? Like I hope that somebody is, and maybe she's not around right now. Maybe she is getting better. I heard she was staying like with her son at one point and doing really well down there Eating doing foods and stuff. But then something happened like she came back up this way. I don't know, Right.
Speaker 2:I feel like when she comes, because her most of her family is now in Florida, right, and like her, like I mean I don't know how her sister's relationship with her sister is she had a best friend who lived in Cali I'm like where are they? Where are the women to cover this woman? Where is the? Where are the women?
Speaker 1:Exactly. And that's the same thing with, like, britney Spears. Like that's why I don't believe it's really Britney. Where in the fuck is the people that have been in her life that would protect her girl? You gotta have security. You know, at some point, like where are those people that should have been watching your house or like for your whole like you know what I mean your career like where are all your people?
Speaker 2:Krista, I just said I don't believe in the clone shit. But, Krista, I believe that somebody has cloned Britney.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I swear to you Somebody has cloned Britney. We have not really in the proof of life her speaking in a British voice, going after a basketball player you really believe would think that we believe that Britney Spears is that stupid. If real Britney Spears would never bust through security talking in British to say hi to a basketball player. Like I feel like it's like a you know, not a clone, or like, if it's not her clone, it's like the person trying to like that has, like green eyes, not the blue eyes, or like it's just weird, Like weird.
Speaker 2:And like she's constantly dancing in the like.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, what are we doing, britney? Why are you in that I?
Speaker 1:don't know where that is. It's a different plate. It's like nobody who's doing the camera? Who's holding the camera Like? Who is it Like? Why are you not doing interviews for your book, like you know, is that.
Speaker 2:I feel like some of those videos are old videos as well. I feel like it was an old video that she might have, you know, bought back her clip or didn't show or something like that, because she might have been dancing all day long that day. Who the fuck does that?
Speaker 1:No, he does that all day long. She misses me when I'm sitting. I don't know. Come on like the fuck out of here. Like that's not you, britney, and I'm like the popcorn planet guy. He's like come to my studio. Like Britney, we love you, we are the ones who will protect you. Please come to our studio. You're safe here, like you, can you know? Like you're. Obviously you're not safe with your parents. Obviously you're not safe with your friends, like you know what I mean he was calling out. He really is, effectively, I feel the same way.
Speaker 1:I'm like where is Britney? And what is wrong with you? Where is the person protecting her? Why is her mother not protecting her? The book is weird as fuck. You read the book, no, but like I heard, like, like Dana did, she covered the book so she was reading it to us, basically, I guess, and like the main parts of it, and I'm like she wrote that she was like, come on, like she can't even fucking put a sentence together, and you mean to tell me she wrote a book.
Speaker 2:She was definitely helped, for sure, but really helped.
Speaker 1:Really helped. She was helped for sure, and I believe that that person what's her name? The one that's the, the with the Kardashians, the manager lady she took 600 million of Britney's money and then funneled it through the Kardashians the lady, what's her name? She's Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor, she's like literally like Justin's manager of Britney's. She's not Britney's, she's all the famous people's managers and she got all their money and somehow, allegedly I don't think I think it's like you know, I think you can say allegedly, right, I have to say allegedly because it's not proven yet Apparently she funneled 600 million dollars of Britney's money for her dad through the Kardashians. Yeah, and I actually can probably get the data's links, the links that were that the guy was talking about it, and Dana has some a little bit of proof too that it was happened. Yeah, the Kardashians are bad man. They're not good fucking people. I had to. I knew something was wrong. There was no way that we cared that much about, like. There's no way that we were like that, like obsessed with these people for so long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was go ahead, I'm there. They had some guy who I was watching Heather McDonald's podcast yesterday and she had the guy who proposed to be on the documentary with her. Like I'm just like, oh, maybe you want to watch a documentary, you watched it right.
Speaker 1:He said it all, didn't he?
Speaker 2:He said it all. I was just like I believe some of that stuff before, but I really believe it now.
Speaker 1:Is he about the sex tape stuff?
Speaker 2:Yes, like she has them all and she and Ray J, Like he had like the stuff they've already seen. I'm like, oh, like, like we're just like producing shows. We're just producing more content and more shows make us seem interesting and if anybody who gets in our way of making us seem like the angels and make us coming up like Rose is like I can't like roses really smell like boo boo.
Speaker 1:I watched Heather McDonald's interview. Yeah, jerry Winechub was on there, guys.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Stay on fucking. You'll know, I knew exactly when I see him I was like, oh that fucking guy, he, he spread, he just laid it all out and he explained a lot of stuff. Yeah, we were probably a little confused about. Maybe we thought it would be true.
Speaker 1:And how it works with like porn stuff, and maybe did they know or did they not know, solomon, and like you know Kim, and like Paris, but to find out that like you can't really leak it you know now you can't leak it but like they obviously find out they shot another one just to fucking release it. Right, that part. Oh, this is one of the bed for Kim right now.
Speaker 2:She had a plot and a plan and her mama was in on it.
Speaker 1:Like I wonder why I think that shit no, but like for real your mom letting it happen. Yeah, Wow Well done with this shit, Conne. What the fuck are you doing, man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that part I mean, and I feel like Kanye he knew there's another tape he knew it. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:He's not crazy. Kanye is fucking right. Everything he said, he spells it. He says it. He says the Luminati. He says that he said they're trying to kill me. That's why he married his girlfriend, because they were trying to get him on their conservatorship.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:That's the course, man. Every man that gets involved with them, bad shit happens to them.
Speaker 2:Bad shit happens.
Speaker 1:Where's Corey? Where is Corey? Where's Corey?
Speaker 2:She probably sent him to an island somewhere to lift his best life, corey.
Speaker 1:Guess who Corey Gable's mom is, guys.
Speaker 2:I think I know this. Who is it?
Speaker 1:Mary Kay Cosmetics. I am not fucking with you, guys.
Speaker 2:Are you serious?
Speaker 1:I fucking swear to God. Sorry, I'm cursing, I can't listen. This was on.
Speaker 2:I can't even Google it.
Speaker 1:What? Yes, google, who Corey Gable's mom is? You're going to die. He's been rich as fuck this whole time. Yeah, dana had had. Dana had a fucking Dana had. Yeah, dana, listen, I permanently linked Dana Wilkley's Patreon to my description Ellen the Patreon, and on the podcast side too, because everything that she's telling you comes from her stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, Dana said that. Yes, and it's all, I don't have to Google it.
Speaker 1:I don't have to Google it Seriously because I think it's all right now, but I will when I'm off. I'll do it. Hold on, I forgot my friends are here. I'm an idiot and just get back in it. But like I was shocked and like, like apparently, like I don't know why they there's a whole story about why they got together. It's like very dark and weird and like and oh my God, like thinking about everything bad that's been happening. Like it's like that guy said Scott's screwed for life. They were recording. Like he messed up with. Like with yeah.
Speaker 1:And now look how she's. Oh my God, it's weird. I didn't watch one whole episode, not one. Because I started to believe, like a couple of years ago is I guess I started to believe more in everything, all the other stuff like real I say this, reality TV and the other realities, but I know everything about boot. That's it and I don't know anything else. I know everything about reality TV, bravo stuff and reality, but I know everything about, like the reality of the universe and how it works and all that. I feel like I'm, like you know, a genius at it's shit. I don't know how, but like that's all I've been doing for like three years is figuring it out and like believing in that stuff.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, so when I heard I for some reason, the Kardashians, I was like there's something up with them. They're they're not that. Like why are they this famous? Like that's something they're paying people, it's something's up with that. And then, like I kind of looked into, like you know, like Femme Tarot, she does a show and she explains a lot of the stuff. Like you know, she really believes in that stuff too, and she talks about like how the family curses on it and for the men to get like screwed. Look at, like what happened to like the dad he defended OJ Simpson and then he died from cancer. And then look what happened to like all the guys, all the guys, all the men, even Rob like dude, like.
Speaker 1:Bruce had to pretend to be a man because he couldn't be himself. For 25 years they fucked him over big time. They still fuck him over.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Look what happened to fucking Chris the dude the Humphreys. Look what happened to fucking lot. What's his name? Chloe's husband.
Speaker 2:Omar, uh huh.
Speaker 1:Or whatever. Yeah, Poor Lamar man.
Speaker 2:Lamar. That's it, Lamar.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, man, I got odd. This is what got me. Listen. This is really bad. The two things. So, right before our podcast is became a thing, we're blogging. Still, podcasts were about to start.
Speaker 1:What got me in trouble is when Facebook started to ban you for cursing and threatening people, and you know you couldn't really say things but like you know so I'm not a blogger, but I would go on other people's, like you know, facebook groups and I would talk about reality TV, like I don't talk about it, right, but I was my run my mouth. But what got me the fucking ban for life was I did the Kardashian curse and I added my own thing to it and I put it on Facebook and that was my last. I basically knew better and that was my last thing and it banned me for life. It was I didn't. I was like you know, when I fucking said thank you Chris, I just called Chris the fucking I did. I should find it. The funny thing about this is is I stream live right now right on YouTube, on Twitter and on Facebook, and you hear how I talk, right.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I get away with it on Facebook streaming on Facebook now, because I cannot type this shit. I am fucking really like. The harsh reality is a stutter ban for life from all, from everybody's Facebook. I'm saying we're reporting these. Peter's Facebook reported the shit out of me. I had to change my whole name and everything.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, Change my.
Speaker 1:Instagram. Like I'm from the harsh reality to I was the unpopular opinion.
Speaker 2:Dana's like be the unpopular opinion I'm like no the issues with the videos, but no issues with the videos.
Speaker 1:This is fucking weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Stop cursing. It's really bad. I really have to stop cursing. I have to say stop saying F? Yo, my eye is fucked. Can you see how bad it looks? Guys, I don't even want to see you. It's embarrassing. It's getting worse. Look at my fucking eye. Do you see how it's closed?
Speaker 2:When you point it out, I see it. When that one you don't want to, I don't see it.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, guys, it's fucking really bad. Oh my God, it hurts bad. I really fucked my eye up.
Speaker 2:I like what did you do?
Speaker 1:I've been putting eyelashes on for like a year now. Somehow I've managed to have glue get stuck like somehow underneath my eyelid, somehow weird, and clump, and they got all clumped together and I didn't realize it for like, but for like the last week or two I'm putting my eyeliner on and I'm like this is weird. There's like lump, my eyelid's lumpy. That's fucking weird. Oh, my eyelashes are like I don't have any eyelashes. I'm like sometimes weird with my eyes, right, I didn't realize what was happening. And then I'm starting to look and I'm like, oh my God, my skin and my skin was glued, kind of clumped up and clustered my real eyelashes and I must have not been really washing it off every time. I take my eyelashes off and put them back on because it's bad and I have to really probably go to the eye doctor because my dumb ass put them on again. Today I keep putting them back on. That's fucking stupid of me, right? God forbid, I don't have to go.
Speaker 2:I'm saying you might have to like just leave them off for like a couple of days.
Speaker 1:Happen to anybody else? I don't know. I don't know, I'm not very, I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, I did tell you.
Speaker 1:Terry, I think it's because I started to use the bonding one instead of the glue because it works better, and I kind of bonded my, so my eyelashes got like clumped underneath on my eyelid. My skin's like it's fucked really bad. It's really fucking bad. So I'm trying to rip it off but I'm bleeding and then I have to make them want to do this Not bleeding.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you don't know I'm just being a fucked up person. God forbid, I don't wear makeup. I'm an asshole. I won't come on camera without my shit. I'm an asshole.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm not on camera right now.
Speaker 1:I should probably just leave my. I should probably Friday leave my eye. I should probably not come on camera Friday, but I have to do Salt Lake in Beverly Hills because I'm team Monica guys and guess what? She follows me. She reposts my stories. Oh, yeah. She laughs about the stuff I say about her mom and I come team her and everything. I'm so dumb. I know mama bear. There's mama bear right there yelling at me. I know, I know, mama, I have to.
Speaker 2:I'm interested to see what you say about. I'm interested to see what you say about the argument at the end of Salt Lake City this week.
Speaker 1:Lance, did you watch it already?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I watched it already. I'm just interested to see what you have to say.
Speaker 1:I kind of give me a hint of what it is. You can tell me what it is, because I kind of jumped ahead already I think last week with it, but tell me what it was about.
Speaker 2:Well, oh, wow, Wow, oh wow, no, it's not bad. Ok, so it's more like for me the issue raises I understand where Monica comes from, because there's one point where it does feel like Lisa is the one who started the fight, but everybody is mad at me yet again, and so and that's how I feel about it pretty much they ask a question, Lisa responds and she makes the first jab and it's just like what do you want me to do? You want me to be like, oh OK, Lisa. So now let's cool by a moment. I'm sorry, say that again.
Speaker 1:You're Monica, right, you're saying like I'm Monica, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2:Monica, a question is asked, a game question, because you know these games are not, so I'm going to ask you a game question. The first person they ask to respond to this game question is Lisa. Lisa's negative response is towards Monica, me, monica, At this point you want me to be cool by y'all with her. Now, like you know, monica is going to respond, she's going to respond, so she responds in the situation and when she responds, everybody gets mad at Monica. Monica, calm down. You're being lethal, you're being vicious. What she started it, what she started it.
Speaker 2:And surprisingly, should I keep going? I don't know. Surprisingly, Lisa actually apologizes.
Speaker 1:To Monica.
Speaker 2:To Monica yeah, lisa apologizes, ends up apologizing to Monica about the situation, because she literally sees where she's wrong in this whole situation. She literally sees and, yeah, heather started by asking the question what does she expect? Like, what does she expect? And then now you want to cool by y'all moment, and then now you want, and now, after she's apologized, like her whole energy is down and I feel like now it's almost like what are we going to do now? Because Monica is so upset about the situation and I think I probably would have been as upset as she was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but what Lisa said?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry by what Lisa said. She, I think it was, they were having pioneer games and pioneer games and they had a pioneer game question and the question was our wagon is heavy, is overloaded. Who first are you going to throw off the wagon in the group? Who are you going to throw off the wagon first?
Speaker 1:What a fucking question. What?
Speaker 2:a fucking question and I really wish that I lost you.
Speaker 1:I lost you.
Speaker 2:I'm here. I'm here. I have to go in a minute because my husband's on the way home. But it was a fucked up question. I agree, but I really feel I hate that Heather started with Lisa first. She knew what she did when she started with Lisa first. And Lisa said Monica, she knew what she did when she started with Lisa first. And now they're about to go on a trip and Monica doesn't want to go.
Speaker 1:I don't blame her Would you?
Speaker 2:I don't Exactly. I don't blame her, I don't blame her.
Speaker 1:I mean, and the fact that it's going to come out too. They get mad at her because she's the one that, if she didn't say her real name, and Heather finds out oh, you're the one that was suing me.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's make a big deal out of that and that also makes me sad watching it now, because I actually like Heather and Monica's dynamic. They are so fun together. They actually have fun together.
Speaker 1:I feel like it was a real friendship that was developing Heather had to ruin it, because I did feel bad for her and understood what her mom was doing to her. That was going to be good for Monica, and to see her turn around and do this shit to her it's like, heather, you're a fucking piece of shit. You are such a fucking disloyal cunt.
Speaker 2:She is disloyal, but she is disloyal. I like Heather, but she is disloyal. I'm going to try to come back and talk with you on Friday, but I have to go. My husband is probably because he's worried about me. Our dog just passed and he's really worried about me, so I have to. I know, yeah, I was so sad, but, krista, thank you so much for going live today and talking to me, because you actually brighten my day. This is the first time I haven't cried in over two hours, so thank you.
Speaker 1:You're loving me too, please. I love you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:I love you too, Krista. You're great, Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you so much too. Really honestly Like you made my day.
Speaker 2:You do the same for me I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, guys, we all know how that feels. You guys know I lost my dog last year and you know that Dana's dog just got. Dana had to put her dog down. I think she said she looked at her dog that just passed. Because I got to go. Look at my eye. I can't keep it open. I must have really fucked it up and it hurts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, as you hear what she said, that makes me feel good, like I'm not monetized. I don't do this for money. Like, I love talking about the stuff and I love the fact that somebody that we I didn't know watched me is watching me in one of the questions. She's been spent like a couple hours the other day on here and we just spent on here for two hours. I didn't even realize two hours had just gone by, you know, and we're just talking about different stuff, like you know, potomac's OK and everything, but there's not much we can fucking say about it. And, guys, I got to go fucking put my eyes on my eye. Oh, ok, yeah, I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it because you'll see me go nuts about it on Friday, because I am T Monica and, yeah, I love, I love and like to her and like, yeah, I'm glad that we can like, honestly, like, if anything, bravo it's, it brings us out of whatever we're dealing with, you know, and honestly, and I feel like when we're going through stuff like we relate to the ladies and the stuff, like that's what we say, like I'm not perfect, right, like I'm fucking for real. You know that I talk about it. I'm an open book, so when I see what people go through on here, I have a different perspective and I can explain maybe some things. Like don't always agree with it, but like I can understand why people act. Certainly you know, or you know like, like with Monica, people don't see her side, but I see her side of it. Like I, you know, I don't know it's crazy. Like like, especially with the criminal stuff, like I try to explain it, I just don't understand why you would go on camera. It doesn't make any sense to me. But, like you know, it's like I don't know I really fucked up. You guys know what I mean. I love the fact that we have people that have different perspectives and opposite. I like I welcome opposing opinions. I say this all the time because we're not a cult. Definitely we're not cult people, nobody. I don't expect anybody to agree with me and if I do disagree, I like to hear other sides of perspectives.
Speaker 1:But Jesus Christ, my eyes killing me. I gotta go. I will see you guys on Friday. I like, literally I could see, like I can't take a day off. I might not wear makeup on Friday. Maybe you'll see me without makeup because this has to be healed, so I can't see and I lost my glasses and I see everybody that's watching on Twitter and Facebook and all that and I love you guys. I can see you guys and nobody else can, unless you guys talk in the chat. But, yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 1:My eyes fucking killing me, but I love you guys. Make sure you. Oh my God, yes, please hit the notification bell, please hit the like. You guys do hit the like, but please hit the notification bell and please hit the all as well. If you hit all, even if I do get shadow band from my cursing, which I'm probably gonna have to edit the way out I say that when I want, but if I do like, you'll still get the. I don't know, do you guys get the notification? Please let me know real quick If you guys get notifications when I'm live.
Speaker 1:I know, mamiar, I love it. I know, thank you, I did. It was. This is great. Like, honestly, I love it that you guys show up every week and I know you don't have to have every. I'm happy Thanksgiving guys.
Speaker 1:Thanksgiving, erin, love you, miss you, erin, please call me so we can talk. Oh, michelle, yes, yes, yes, yes, you did say I thought what you said was what you said. We love you and thank you so much for like. It makes me feel good that, like you know, I was saying I'm not monetized so like. Even this is what I do this for, because I love this so much and they're never like and somebody sucks the joy out of it for me. It makes me angry, but then I always come back to it and the guys, I never gave up. You know I don't ever give up as much as as much as I talk, and I can't deal with Jersey and it affects me in a certain way. I know better. I'll talk about it off this off season and I won't make a live about it. But if somebody wants to bring it up, I will talk about it. But, erin, I will call you. Okay, just let me go take care of my eye and then I'm going to call you if we're up, if you're up, right, and everybody that was. I love you guys. You guys always come back and I guess, if not happy Thanksgiving and Friday, I will be back Because we were happy to talk about Salt Lake and I'm so excited because I told you that, like, I'm really enjoying Beverly Hills as well and these lives are getting fun because you know I have somebody.
Speaker 1:You know people are calling in and I'm welcoming everybody to call in. I drop the link for everybody. It's an open panel. I say it all the time. I'm going to keep it that way because you know I don't. I probably have to get a monitor or whatever a mod soon, but not yet, not up there yet.
Speaker 1:But if people have notifications, even the replay people like God forbid, I'm getting all these like subscribers but I don't think they're getting notifications and, like you know, they watch it afterwards. But I love to interact with everyone. That's why I say like, if also on who's on the wrong side, the chapters and the titles, even though these are long episodes on the podcast side it has chapters and titles and, I'm sorry, chapters and timestamps and it goes through everything we talked about and there's also transcripts on there. You don't even have to, you know, listen to everything. Go to like wherever it literally breaks down. Ai breaks down the entire thing for me. Even when I talk about my eye and I curse, it breaks it down. It's funny, but it's really cool.
Speaker 1:And that's the podcast side. That's going audio and if you're over there, please give me a five star review. It doesn't make any sense. All my downloads and nobody's hitting rating me I only have like five ratings, but I love you guys. You don't have to do all that stuff, but I love you and I will see you on Friday and I will promise you I will come. Listen, I will come on camera without makeup. It'll be the first time ever and the only time ever, but I will do that for you guys and I don't know why I'm saying that. Look, you guys, give a shit. I love you. Goodbye, do all that stuff for me, bye. Happy Thanksgiving.