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Ever wish you could eavesdrop on a raw, unfiltered chat about the tumultuous lives of your favorite "Real Housewives of New Jersey" cast members? Well, wish no more! Join me, Krista Marie, and the ever-insightful Mr. Downsorb as we unravel the threads of loyalty, love, and family drama that weave through the heart of Season 14. From Teresa's trials to Louis's controversial attempts at peacemaking, we're peeling back the curtain on the true complexities behind the camera. And let's not skirt around the darker shades of reality TV fame—get ready for a no-holds-barred look into toxic masculinity and the exploitation of vulnerabilities that has us questioning the ethical lines of our beloved shows.
This isn't just a recap—it's a deep dive into the emotional whirlpool where family feuds collide with the lure of the spotlight. Witness our unwavering support for Teresa as we dissect her navigation through personal battles and public scrutiny. Feel the tension mount as we consider the role of secrets and betrayals in the fray between Teresa and her brother Joe Gorga, set against the backdrop of Teresa's wedding. As we dissect the drama that ensues both on-screen and off, from legal entanglements to social media skirmishes, you'll find your allegiance to honesty bolstered by our commitment to keeping it real.
As our conversation flows, you'll get a taste of our musings on podcasting, the Jersey Shore's summer sizzle, and the enchanting beauty of Lake Tahoe. With Mr. Downsorb in the mix, expect a sprinkling of salty commentary that's as refreshing as a morning seaside breeze. As we wave goodbye, the remnants of traditional celebrations linger, reminding us that family disputes, like morning hangovers, might leave a bitter taste but are often followed by the clarity of a new day. So refill your coffee, and let's get this conversation started—it's one you won't want to miss.
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Linked below will be a link to the Podcast I referenced in this episode
Ever wish you could eavesdrop on a raw, unfiltered chat about the tumultuous lives of your favorite "Real Housewives of New Jersey" cast members? Well, wish no more! Join me, Krista Marie, and the ever-insightful Mr. Downsorb as we unravel the threads of loyalty, love, and family drama that weave through the heart of Season 14. From Teresa's trials to Louis's controversial attempts at peacemaking, we're peeling back the curtain on the true complexities behind the camera. And let's not skirt around the darker shades of reality TV fame—get ready for a no-holds-barred look into toxic masculinity and the exploitation of vulnerabilities that has us questioning the ethical lines of our beloved shows.
This isn't just a recap—it's a deep dive into the emotional whirlpool where family feuds collide with the lure of the spotlight. Witness our unwavering support for Teresa as we dissect her navigation through personal battles and public scrutiny. Feel the tension mount as we consider the role of secrets and betrayals in the fray between Teresa and her brother Joe Gorga, set against the backdrop of Teresa's wedding. As we dissect the drama that ensues both on-screen and off, from legal entanglements to social media skirmishes, you'll find your allegiance to honesty bolstered by our commitment to keeping it real.
As our conversation flows, you'll get a taste of our musings on podcasting, the Jersey Shore's summer sizzle, and the enchanting beauty of Lake Tahoe. With Mr. Downsorb in the mix, expect a sprinkling of salty commentary that's as refreshing as a morning seaside breeze. As we wave goodbye, the remnants of traditional celebrations linger, reminding us that family disputes, like morning hangovers, might leave a bitter taste but are often followed by the clarity of a new day. So refill your coffee, and let's get this conversation started—it's one you won't want to miss.
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hello am I recording? Are we recording?
Speaker 2:hello, we're live baby good morning.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the jersey shore good morning I'm telling you, your first night at the shore is always the worst, okay well, it sure is I, I'm hung over. I know You're lucky I didn't wake you up with Waking up in the morning feeling like so many things. Waking up in the morning thinking of so many things.
Speaker 2:I just want things to get better.
Speaker 1:I can't. All right, no shade, gia, we love you, you, okay, I'm krista marie. Reality, krista marie, I love gia. I love gia too, I do, and you know gia's come a long way. But this is our salty, bitter housewife, collab. And I've invited mr downsorb to. I think I'm saying your last name, right? And I've invited Mr Downsorb to. I think I'm saying your last name, right. Yes, okay, good To collab, so we can do a Real Housewives of New Jersey season 14 recap discussion every week. And it's exhausting. It is, and I know better because I realized yesterday why I have to do this on other people's platforms, even though you will be hearing this on the who Started you On podcast platform, and also Mr Downsorp is the host of the Salty Housewives podcast, very popular podcast is for Salt Lake City and Atlanta and in the Housewives community. So just let me introduce Mr Downsorp real quick. You want to talk to your listeners, since we're going to be on both our platforms yes, hello everybody.
Speaker 2:I decided to drink very heavily last night, so I'm dealing with that now. But if you listen to my podcast, you realize I'm drunk every time I record. Okay, hello, hi, my name is Dalin. My podcast is called Salty Housewives. Fun fact about it I actually started that podcast in defense of Heather Gay and now I despise that woman and her ozempic face, and she can go jump off a bridge for all I care. That's my introduction. That is the type of person I am. Also, for those of you who are bothered by pronouns enjoy, because I am a. They then. Okay, so good morning.
Speaker 1:Good morning, you're going to fit right in I am.
Speaker 1:We do not hold back here. Jersey is a place where we fight hard. We love hard. Jersey feels like home. It's good because I promise you guys like what you have just seen on twitter and instagram and I'm telling you I'm just as confused as probably down is. Um, I got a little caught up yesterday and, if you guys know me very well, my side um, I don't usually talk about Jersey because I'm allergic to seafood, for one, okay, and you know, if you notice, there's a lobster on that cast.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was a joke, that was funny. Okay, that was good.
Speaker 1:I was like wait.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like that's so sad. And then I was like never mind, that's shady, I like it.
Speaker 1:Listen if you watch my Okay. So yesterday I go live right and you'll see why I'm allergic to seaweed. I get so worked up and upset. I have my EpiPen, which is my weed. So I don't drink, I smoke weed. So we're like we fit in very well together. So that's my EpiPen and I decided yesterday, like I said, for you guys, we're going to recap season 14. But I feel like now everything I had planned for us is out the window a little bit Because it's going to wrap up.
Speaker 1:What is the online crap? The toxicity guys that we keep saying that we know is not our jersey usual. Okay, now down has gone through every season starting from season 3 to 13 decided to get caught up. I also went back and I watched it too, because I figured we're going to be trying to decide team gorga and judice because people have put us in that position, unfortunately obviously yeah, and I said no, guess what, we're team, not louis.
Speaker 1:Okay, I like I like louis, I don't care I know you like louis and you might I actually might like louis after this. You're going to be surprised when you hear me say this because, yes, I've realized that he has been saying that he needs to get rid of jim the lawyer. Okay, now okay, and I'm like why did he do that? Why would he want to do something like that? Well, because jim the lawyer has been corrobbling with theresa the wifey, with mr musterman to well, actually, they won't say louis name, that's what's getting me. They've all now have come out with the receipts on twitter of them paying content creators to drag her brother, the cast members, everything I've been saying for two years and the reason I lost my effing fucking mind yesterday. We're allowed to curse, right? I think we're allowed to curse.
Speaker 2:I don't know shit, fuck ass, cunt, slut ass, bitch, shit damn. Yes, it was all yesterday.
Speaker 1:It was all that for an hour and a half and I said, holy shit, this is why I don't do this, because, okay, I'm just gonna get, I'm gonna get down caught up. I don't get you all caught up.
Speaker 1:In about five seconds I'm ready a couple years ago, two years ago, I had a collab on another podcast called housewives and headlines. Please strike it from the world, please strike it from the universe, get rid of it. Okay, I don't know what her involvement is in this. I know she's about somehow. I'm just gonna. We'll take her out of the equation. But if you go on twitter you'll see her name is involved in all the receipts that this Melissa's old nose account posted. Who's now turned on? Teresa? Okay, yeah, these are the names. Okay, and the all true, all about the truth podcast, which is New Jersey obsessed, I believe. I'm not really sure, guys, I promise you that I stopped arguing with these people, these accounts, when it got toxic last year. Didn't know why I was getting toxic, just it. So my dumb ass decides to go on twitter. Yesterday I was like, let me just get a little bit caught up I see this.
Speaker 1:I see this podcast, uh link, and it is melissa's old nose who's now on teresa. It's so funny. She's now on gabriella who's chrissy balls, which is now the podcast with Balls. I believe I'm going to link it because I'm no shade to you two. I called you a rat too many times yesterday. I'm not going to do it again today, but just know I'm wearing my rat t-shirt, okay, anyway, wait wait, wait sorry yeah first off yeah how dare anyone be offended being called a rat?
Speaker 2:Do you know that a rat father raised the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and they grew up to be crime-fighting superheroes?
Speaker 1:Look, I didn't coin it. You've got to guess the Sopranos, or maybe like Tony or what's like the Godfather. I don't know who coined the word rat. We could call it snitch if you want. But listen, the snitches are snitching on each other. Now what do you expect to happen when you hire a snitch to do a snitch job? A snitch is eventually going to snitch on you. So what's happening now is the snitches are snitching on Jennifer, aiden and Teresa and Jim, and they're not naming Louie, but they're saying Bitches, bitch, naming louie.
Speaker 1:but they're saying just bitches man these bitches. I swear in jersey leave teresa and jennifer no, no, no, because if you go on twitter now, now, what I've been saying for two years is now now, the receipts are out. There's now proof that they drug john food is girlfriend, ex-wife, whatever out of the woodwork. There's now proof that they've. I I'm there, hey, I, just I, personally.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:This loyalty of Teresa is beyond me. Okay, now listen. Okay, let's just cause. This is all going to be relevant. Unfortunately, unfortunately, just like Salt Lake city season, it's going to be fucking irrelevant.
Speaker 1:There's been such collaboration behind the scenes to make the fucking season. Because you know, because you're loosely involved with the cast, just like I'm loosely involved with Jersey, we both know what goes on behind closed doors and what's happening right. And that's just unfortunate for us, fortunate for the viewers. Unfortunate now because they all snitch on each other. So now we're seeing how a season has been made not real now because producers and other people, teresa want to create narratives because they don't have a storyline. My question is why do you need one, teresa? You're the head bitch, right, you are. She really is.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to deny that Teresa is the head bitch in Jersey. She has been from day one. I don't know why any longer. She has no friends. She made it clear on the reunion last season 13 that she was no longer going to fucking film with any of them, and she made sure that she was.
Speaker 1:And I'm telling you, dallin and everybody, everybody listening she was positive that joe and marlissa were not coming back this season, so she wanted to drag somebody else to make a storyline. She drove, she drove you're like I can't even speak. She drugged the foodist. So that's where the britney thing can't came in and I said and they said, on the reunion, season 13, you guys will see it, you saw it, you saw it. They said they both screamed fluey, you hired, you found britney, you had to drag us.
Speaker 1:Frank goes you. You know, you hired this one, then that one to drag us, no, us, no, what, how dare you? We would never. Okay, theresa, I believe you. Okay, fine, let's go shake hands. Louis wouldn't shake his hand. Food and frank. Look at him and I'm like you know what I actually believe. I really believe that. I believe that he did it. I believe they did it and I said I screamed it. I'm like I know it's true. He has to believe me, though. Right, well, now guess what? Go to go? Just go to x twitter, wherever you want to call. Are we calling it twitter's x's? I don't know, I call call it garbage.
Speaker 2:Garbage, it is literally garbage, it's just a social media site where most people go to look at porn. But pretend they're talking to their friends.
Speaker 1:And guess what Reddit is? It's evil twin, oh.
Speaker 2:I hate.
Speaker 1:Reddit X is evil twin, all right. So now that like now, so like that is literally going to make our season 14, that we're going to know.
Speaker 2:We wanted to honestly recap look like a piece of poop so okay, but I I want to tell people my introduction to not just new jersey, but like also theresa um yes, go ahead, because I need to take a breath.
Speaker 1:Go, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, you're good Like, go go breathe, go like do you? My first glimpse into Teresa was on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, and I entered that whole show with many preconceived notions because I at that point had never seen the Housewives franchise, oh and. I was watching it and I was watching it and I thought, wow, I'm like Teresa really is not this big, scary, terrible woman that people make her out to be, and it was my introduction to Kenya and I was like, oh, I love Kenya too.
Speaker 2:Ramona should have been drowned on all of the events, but I digress and then I think, all right, let's watch New Jersey. So to sum this up very quickly, my interpretation of Teresa and why I'm always a team tree, I just I won't waver, I won't falter. Watching her in early seasons just kind of broke my heart. And it broke my heart even more when her brother, her piece of shit, oompa Loompa brother, came on. Oh, by the way, I'm salty. That's the point of my podcast. So if that offended you, you need to listen to, like Barney and Friends.
Speaker 1:They're used to it.
Speaker 2:Okay, good, great yeah.
Speaker 1:I love him.
Speaker 2:Teresa, unfortunately, has been around men and I'm emphasizing that on purpose who treat her as someone without a brain. Now, theresa is a very intelligent woman. Obviously, she's on the show and we see how successful she is. Not only that, now that her daughters are grown wow, they have grown into some resilient young women. Yeah, so kudos to that. Um joe judice judas. Triggered by every last nerve, he made me feel uncomfortable. He was, he's, very loving to his girls, but as far as when it came to theresa, he was very rude, misogynistic, absolutely vile, insulting. I could not stand that man. And then her brother comes on the show in the first intro. I don't care what kind of family history there is, right when I see a man A man, because these guys are so hung up on being men.
Speaker 1:Right. At a family event.
Speaker 2:the christening right, yeah you are going to choose to react the way you did. Nah, fuck off from that moment on. That guy was nothing but scum to me, and and I say that knowing that I've seen people in my life as a child and adult who've acted that way I see you act like that. Nah, you can't be trusted. You're dead to me, you're unhinged, something's off with you. That's not safe behavior. Yeah, sorry. So my introduction with Teresa was a little backwards. And then, obviously, the newer seasons and I see her with Louis. And now here's my problem when it comes to Louis. Right, it's not with Louis, it's with the people of the show, oh no, and it's with the people that the show and it's with the people that view him and judge it. Because you see Teresa and you see what she's dealt with and put up with, and you see her brother and you see this lifestyle. She's around. Let's go to this video with.
Speaker 2:Louis of going to this thing. I don't need to watch the video. I'm not going to watch the video. I don't need to watch the video. I'm not going to watch the video. I don't care to watch the video. They they explained it pretty well great a bunch of guys like ooga booga and like punch oh, that video, that video so yeah, what I may or may not been wearing pants.
Speaker 1:May or may not been on the beach with a bunch of nigga guys. May or may not been wearing pants. May or may not been on a beach with a bunch of nigga guys. May or may not been at a guys retreat for men to abuse women. May or may not have, allegedly, I don't know. But okay, that video.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here's my thing with Louie. Yeah, were the women there? No, no, was he there? Yes, is it a place for the women to go? No, is it a place for him to go to work through things? Yes, okay, everybody deals with things in their own way. Yeah, at least he recognizes how he is. No, I'm not. I need to really say I don't agree with anything. However, I'm just trying to look at this through a lens of understanding these people, because I'm just a gay 35-year-old living in Salt Lake City, utah, watching this going. Oh, new Jersey and Salt Lake are very similar. At least he is man enough to recognize he needs to change a behavior in himself and do what he can for it.
Speaker 2:However, one thing with Louis that I appreciate. I did hate watching him in the most recent season when he went to talk with Melissa and then Joe came over. Joey came over and tree came over. There was a moment he talked to tree. That really just unsettled me, made me mad. But the more I watched I realized, okay, you're not mad or upset with her, you're mad at these two fame chasers. I mean, they're all fame chasers, but those two anyway. I mean they're all fame chasers, but those two. Anyway, louie is the only man in her life, other than maybe her father, who puts her needs and her safety very high.
Speaker 1:By wearing no-nose pajamas, sorry. Do you know he wears no Nono's pajamas. Sorry, do you know he wears Nono's pajamas to make everybody feel safe and warm at night. Good, nono is her dead father. Okay, just letting you know. Did you miss that part where he said I wear your dead father's pajamas?
Speaker 2:I honestly think that's adorable.
Speaker 1:Oh my God what. I honestly think that's adorable. Oh my god, please, what, dallin, if my father ever passes away and we're ever back at the Jersey Shore, please don't wear his pajamas well, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I'm not close to you, well, just but like, if listen, no, no, if my father passed and someone I'm very close to did that that would actually be very sweet.
Speaker 1:Wait, can I just can I give you a scenario real quick? Imagine that, where those pajamas, where the bottom part of those pajamas, where all no, no, okay. Then imagine that your new husband wears them, imagine them where your mouth is going. Just put that just. Can you just sit with that for a second?
Speaker 2:But if I'm blowing somebody, I'm not blowing the pajamas. I'm blowing somebody. I'm not blowing the pajamas, I'm blowing them. I don't care they can.
Speaker 1:They can wear a paper.
Speaker 2:They can wear a paper bag from the grocery store and like banana pills on their feet.
Speaker 1:As long as my dad saw there's balls burning it okay I don't care.
Speaker 2:like we're not getting sexy in the clothes, I'm taking them off you Okay. Wear like little house on the prairie attire for all I care. I don't care what you're wearing. You're naked when we're doing the deed.
Speaker 1:so Okay, sorry.
Speaker 2:Wear my mom's wedding dress, for Christ's sake. No, no, no, no, no. You do you boo. I'm not going to tell you to not dress how you want to dress.
Speaker 1:I had to throw that in there. You, matt, you admire him for making her, want him to feel safe. I get that part.
Speaker 2:I do so. Watching this, watching the recent season, it was messy. I honestly season it was messy. I honestly come at me, all of you, I'm ready for it. Hello. The fact everyone is so up in arms with this Teresa, melissa, drama, get real. It's actually not that intense and it's not that interesting. Right, I mean, it's drama for sure, but I don't know. I think for me, because it's such family stuff, I'm not so thrilled to get a jump on Like I do. I feel sad for all of them, everyone involved. I do too.
Speaker 1:But I don't know, it's a very bad place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I watched, I just I don't know. I feel like I just relate to Teresa and her family more Cause I feel like I've been her children on that kind, that end of that kind of a situation. So, seeing Gia and all of her mostly Gia, though, but all of her daughters how they stand up for their mom and how they're not afraid to speak up, they make me so proud because I know, being that young, how scary that is to speak up to someone that much older than you and someone you saw as like a caregiver and a safe person who no longer is a safe person anymore. It's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the traumatization of when you're a child and you watch your parents fist fight or like imagine being like I know how, like watching them fist fight and cry, like just the trauma that they have to be scared now, every time that you are all around each other, because you can't get it together and they're right, because it kept happening. That's freaking scary and that would like put my wall up to like have something against my uncle going forward, even though I'm not I solely like so going in, like I understand exactly, like I see where I can feel for Teresa, like I see where I can feel for Teresa. I can't so I can feel for Teresa, but I just I feel like so, like, if you have a sister, right, oh, sorry.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, this is important, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1:I interrupted.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, you're fine, I acted like I was done. I'm sorry, no, you're fine, I acted like I was done. One thing about Teresa and everyone around her that really pisses me off, and I've noticed it from early seasons up until now the whole, the whole, treating her like she's stupid or treating her like she's dumb. But specifically because she just says things wrong or like pronounces words wrong, get the fuck out of here. No, first off, we all do that.
Speaker 1:I do too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, second off, why wouldn't you just help somebody specifically, specifically one of them that sits with me? When she was at that one photo shoot and she was in, it was the first time she said ingredients.
Speaker 1:Oh, my yes, okay, ingredients yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm sure people were laughing watching that, like I get that. But when I saw those two women, she was saying that too and they're just like laughing and no one's trying to help her. Oh my gosh, I was filled with rage. And then any time watching that show after, if she says something wrong or doesn't know the word to something and everyone just laughs at her, makes fun of her mocks her yep those are not friends.
Speaker 2:Those are not friends, those are not good people, those are not nice people. It's one thing. If you like someone says it and you laugh at them, you're like that's not the word. Right, and then you tell them what it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you help them say it, but you choose to just sit there and laugh at someone. Nah, fuck off with that bullshit, stupid little bitch. Be nice, help them out. Oh, I hate, I that yeah everyone does that to her and everyone still does that to her.
Speaker 1:It's like up in lives. They make a joke out of it. They make a game out of it I hate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because, like sure, and she laughs along like ha, ha, ha, like no, that that doesn't feel good. I know that doesn't feel good, like that's. I hate that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I had to say that because, no, I I understand Like, I see, like, so I really did Like I have always been, team Teresa. Now to go back to what you saw in the very beginning with Joey I don't know where, before season three. I don't know where the anger comes from, with him and her. From what we hear, it's Joe Gorga feels like Jude Ice took his father from him. Oh, I know where it comes from. Where, where, like I don't.
Speaker 2:I watching Unfortunate. Okay, I'm judging this based off personal relationships within my extended family. Okay, so when I watch them Joey specifically, but also Melissa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When I say this, I don't mean it in such a malicious way Like maybe tree means that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Obviously she's more hurt by it. We're just viewers, Melissa, even though on camera she was very conscious to say, Joey, go talk to your sister, go talk to your sister, go make up. She was aware, but she was almost aware to a point it put me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I'm like I know why you're saying this, but it also seemed very obvious how I get how Tree says she's the one trying to take the brother away because her attitude her personality.
Speaker 2:In Tree's eyes, I see it as, yes, she's taking your brother from you, but in Melissa's eyes, I see it also as I'm protecting my family, which are two very important clear yeah, um, but in my opinion, when it comes to whatever family drama we're allowed to see, whatever social media stuff, that's super messy that people put out in my eyes. First off, they're both wrong in many things, but melissa and joey could have, and should have, done more to keep that relationship intact, because I think what the two of them really wanted for a long time and what they finally got was a solid reason to sever the cord with that relationship and when that happened with the wedding it made it very easy and with the wedding, one thing I, one thing I really want to say yeah
Speaker 2:because for a while, the whole time watching that season, I'm like Teresa, just like I know she invited her the one time and Melissa said no, and then, when she was inviting other people and could see Melissa was hurt, right, I'm just thinking, just one more time, just one more. But then I thought you know what, okay, it's Teresa's day and it's for Louie. She's been married, he's been been married. They've never been married together.
Speaker 2:They're trying to make this a day for them and their guests, the people that they feel good around, the people they know. I was like it. It is a sad fact. Unfortunately, Melissa and Joey haven't made things better to a point where you could look past the bullshit and be like, hey, I know we're not getting along great, but we'd love you there. That's not how it's going to work. But when Teresa said like they were just involving people, that like championed the two of them, Mm-hmm. My brain just went oh well, no shit, you're not inviting them, I wouldn't either, Right? Just say that.
Speaker 2:Like sorry you've had a problem with me and Louie. We don't feel comfortable with you there, but it's not like we wouldn't have you there if circumstances were different. Sure, but this is how we want to do it. Great and also get real. You're throwing a bitch fit over the fact she didn't invite, she didn't invite my mother. You're you're the fucking sister-in-law. Get real, you're lucky. You get like brownies. Everyone's sister-in-law, do you know? Sister-in-law you, you're lucky, you get brownies every once in a while.
Speaker 2:Sister-in-law, sister-in-law, you're not a blood relative, you're a relative by association. Get a grip, melissa. I will be dead honest From day one I've never liked Melissa or Joey, their kids are adorable and they do raise their kids very well. But Melissa and Joey just like go on X Factor, go on like who's Line name, that just go on a game show. Like you want fame, the other okay the other thing with the two of them.
Speaker 2:That really pisses me off, and I only noticed this because my best friend does a lot of film acting yeah and I've done acting and producing for shows for a long time what turns me off with melissa and joey and it turns me off with anybody on a reality show.
Speaker 2:When they're filming they're hyper-focused and they're hyper-aware of where the camera is and when the camera's around and nothing they're really doing is 100% genuine because everything they're doing, their body language and everything they kind of feed, they're doing it purposefully to the camera, but not like staring at the camera. They know to film and do and deliver everything to what's picking them up. And it really irritates me because if you want to be genuine, if you want to be genuine and really put your life out there, you're not going to instantly be like sucked into the camera and being so hyper-focused on it. That drives me. You're in a reality show, You're not filming Modern Family Season 8. Get real.
Speaker 1:We're definitely not Modern Family. Okay, can I respond?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't realize how much I had to say.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's good because it's honestly, it literally I have, I because I I. I had a feeling that you were going to say all that because by all looks you're right, by all appearances you seem to be right.
Speaker 1:But just let me ask you some couple questions okay, go for it would you ever allow your all right so say you say you're your sister, your sister, your family member, their enemy wants to sit down with you and your friends and have a powwow and talk about you know they want to reveal something about your sister and you might not be getting along with your sister and you might not be the one that wants to reveal something about your sister and you might not be getting along with your sister and you might not be the one that wants to reveal it, but you're okay with somebody else revealing it On national television. Like is that something that you would be okay with? Like what would you? Because if you wanted, we can go back to stripper gate season three All the way up.
Speaker 2:I mean when that guy comes in. Hey, melissa, remember me. I think I know you. She's looking at him like, excuse me.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, your sister-in-law allowed that to happen, though, like and everybody's supposed to be like okay, teresa, just cause you didn't say it, that's okay, but'll get over it, we'll move on here and joey say right I know, I know this is bad, but you don't care because she was a stripper.
Speaker 2:Well, no, strip away anyone who shames strippers or sex workers, y'all can fuck off I wish. Yeah, I did it, you know but yeah, if someone came to my blood sister and did that yeah I'd have a problem, right if if my sister in this scenario now was a lesbian, had a sister-in-law did it to the sister-in-law, I'd kind of care, but I wouldn't really care well, they kind of because, I don't know in my brain.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I will always think this my only family that actually matters.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Are the four people I'm like bonded to, which is my mom dad? Four people, oh, my God, I'm bonded to myself. Well, I am Okay. Me my mom, my dad, my sister.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, there's. Joey but Joey is your brother. You know what I mean. Joey's her brother. So, okay, you're going to allow my, my wife, to be drug on television and then also on a reality show. It's going to actually be questioned now for the rest of her.
Speaker 2:I am because I see, as Teresa, I see the trauma and the pain and the disappointment in my children and if someone can cause my children, to feel this way, I don't care how they feel.
Speaker 1:Okay, how about this one? Okay, let's see. Would you allow people or say you have family secrets, say that's a family secret, but then there's another family secret. Just say you have family secrets, say that's a family secret, but then there's another family secret.
Speaker 2:Just say you have family secrets.
Speaker 1:The last MF-er that should be revealing it is your sibling, like, say she was a stripper. Say she is a cheater. Say she did hook up with that guy Nick whoever the heck his name is and somebody named Laura Lee Jensen. Some loser decides she's going to go against her best friend, marge, who we should probably get into those guys soon. Marge, I'm gonna. You got this best friend of yours right, this 46 years best friend of marge's, who's a cast member. You know she's gonna come and say hey, I know all marge's secrets. And guess what? Your sister, your sister, will cheat on your brother Some time ago and I'm going to reveal. Is that okay, teresa's like sure, go ahead. I didn't say it, just like Strippergate, I didn't say it. I just knew it was going to happen, didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 1:And then, it happens and you're like Jesus Christ. Did you not learn anything, teresa, from like way back when, 13 years ago, when we said, okay, let's move on, then this is my thing Teresa has done for okay, say, say all the toxic AF up until the wedding I'm talking Louie's wedding. Right, she still was willing to have her brother in that wedding. She cried. You saw the look on her face when she's crying. I just want brother peace. I just want peace. And that fucking guy goes. I'm not going to share air, water or camera flash with Joe fucking Gorga. And it's like Louie. And she's like babe relax, babe relax. And you see her get scared and she's like, all of a sudden, now she doesn't want him at the wedding. She just wanted peace. A minute ago I was peace. I want my brother at my wedding, crying, trying to get a hold of joey, trying to get a hold of joey, and then you got wooey all of a sudden. Dude, you just fucking got here. What are you so mad about?
Speaker 1:first, so so mad about I I forgive him why?
Speaker 2:definitely can see. Okay, there's a few things there to address okay families, these families that are so close with each other, these families, and they have all these secrets fuck off with your secrets. Really, you're close and you have secrets.
Speaker 1:That's bullshit why do you have secrets? You know, even if there was, there, wasn't, say there is or isn't.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying you know me and me and my close family. We're not a secret family. We're not a secret family. We never have been. Okay, grow the fuck up and just tell people stuff. That's how I feel, so like theresa, telling people to air it great. Air it like. Get a grip on reality and just face what the truth is like, deal with it. That way can everybody handle it better, absolutely but, are any of them going to?
Speaker 2:no, um, no, no, as far as louie goes, I I kind of teetered on a light of being uncomfortable and not liking what was happening to, also respecting and understanding where Louis was coming from.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Mostly because when I watch the show I'm kind of watching it through a lens of relating to everybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And this goes to my whole thing of Teresa's not really ever, ever. Wow, what kind of an accent was that?
Speaker 1:What was that I?
Speaker 2:don't know. Teresa has never she's never really had anyone in her corner before, and especially now that her parents yeah gone. That's something very important to her. Even though louis does get very passionate with a lot of things he says and a lot of things he does, I did appreciate how bothered and how upset he was getting on behalf of the woman he cares for, and especially on a show like this where they really just love showing this toxic masculinity and this like macho bro stuff with Louis. He does get that way, but at the same time he really gets passionate for the people he cares about and that's not, that's not something that's familiar for an audience, it's not something people are used to seeing and I've seen stuff like that. So when I recognize that in him I'm like, okay, he's a little, he crosses the line a lot. But when he gets like that and he's more upset than the person, it involves meaning Teresa yeah.
Speaker 2:I understand the emotion behind it and how it's like. If you don't understand how you have to care for yourself, I don't want to be the one to do it, but I'm going to do it. But now I'm going to tell you why this is terrible. Like he did, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I appreciate that she has him for that yeah, okay, now say all that, okay, I'll even give her all that right, even though I don't agree with all of it. But say now, right. So now we're going into season 14 and people have been saying, suspecting, for a long time that louis was paying content creators to drag the cast, to drag cast members, to drag everybody on the cast. He actually even said it at one point and then took it back. Come to find out now that all these um people are stitching on each other and showing receipts on instagram and x and twitter x, whatever, my mistake went on the list of this podcast yesterday. They're showing proof that jennifer, eden and Teresa have been, and what's the worst part about it is the Jim the lawyer. They're not mentioning Louie. So, like I said earlier, I heard Louie was trying to get rid of Jim and I didn't know why. I thought that was a huge mistake. Now I'm thinking he might be right, you might be right. Louie might actually be, might actually be going. Damn, dude, like you have really been paying you. Actually you have been getting my wife to pay these content creators. You two have been going. Because they're literally saying, like these three-way calls with theresa, jennifer, aiden, jim the lawyer and like all about the truth podcast, and like the people in melissa's camp that have now I'm sorry theresa's camp that have now, um, that now they now turned on.
Speaker 1:Theres Teresa. But before they're like, yeah, we did all the dirty work, we're the ones that did it. Here's the receipts. Here's Teresa asking us. Here's Jennifer Aiden asking us. Jennifer is sending out screeners. Basically, strix is going to get Jennifer Aiden fired, but this is the thing Teresa now is showing and it's proof now that she has been trying to destroy her brother, his name, his reputation For storylines. John Foote is the same thing. Whether you're digging up old shit or not, the bottom line is, teresa, you're the fucking felon on paper, you're the fucking liar on paper and you're the one who fucking went to prison. And all these people. We all might have fucked up and did drugs back in our past and you might think, pulling Britney out of the woodwork, john food his ex-wife and you think, oh, getting her to say John's likes it in the butt or whatever the heck he is Like, who the fuck cares? He's married.
Speaker 2:I like it in the butt.
Speaker 1:It's like she like really thought that this was something big about him and, like you know cause, he's married to Rachel. Whatever. You know Brittany, you know britney comes out and says these weird things. Guess what? She gets up getting sent back to prison for violating her ipad, which I don't know I got you can violate your ipad, I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2:But like they try to blame john, I mean, if you try hard enough, you can violate anything I mean my tv. My tv is looking pretty sexy right now no, no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1:My ring light looks pretty sexy in the room. You know what? What?
Speaker 2:I mean, look at those bed sheets Right.
Speaker 1:He's like I violated my iPad. I was like that sounds so strange, but okay, but like no, they literally blamed John for it. They destroyed him on Twitter, but like. The bottom line is I could have everybody had moved past. Okay, people were saying at the end of season 13, there's no way to come back from this. Teresa and Joey are done, they're never going to speak again.
Speaker 1:But again, why is it always on Joe and Melissa to make it better? They've been trying to make it better from day one, but how can you make it better when you first you find out? We can go back to what we can blame Louie I was trying to blame Louie, trying to blame Louie, trying to blame Louie for influencing Teresa. But when it comes down to being Teresa and her lawyer had been doing this and I don't know if Louie was in the background being Mr Puppet Masters, maybe not getting his hands dirty, I don't know. But how dumb of Teresa and Jennifer to put things in messaging and to have things recorded and not think that one day the snitches you hired are then not going to snitch on you.
Speaker 1:When you hire a rat, you get a rat. A rat is a rat is a rat. So these bitches on toxic who have been literally, like literally, slut shaming me, krista Marie, calling me fat and ugly which I'm not fat or ugly, have you seen me? I mean like, come on, I'm just saying you bitches, show your faces. You got people, you got. You're calling people fat and ugly, like they're literally. You've seen how toxic. You only got to see a clip of what goes on on between these two camps.
Speaker 2:We'll say trees, oh yeah, it's disgusting I got death threats over salt lake city opinions like it's crazy but guess what?
Speaker 1:you also found out what happened on your franchise. They were getting paid. People were getting paid or not paid. What do we call it, von Teese? Can we call it the same thing? I don't really call it the same thing, do you?
Speaker 2:Well, okay, here's the thing, Like with with salt.
Speaker 1:Good Heather, teresa Heather.
Speaker 2:With salt Lake. I think here the difference is the fact salt Lake the women are just, they're only concerned with themselves and their appearance and like them, them, them, Whereas on New Jersey it's more elevated, because I really do feel genuinely all these women want to coexist with one another, Like they want things to be fine but at the same time, they're all so dead set on getting their point across that instead of focusing on what can we do to make this work, they're focusing on look at me. Here's why I'm right. Listen to me now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:True, which is sad. Sad because it's like, at one point or another, they all make good points, but none of them listen to each other. That's true that's true.
Speaker 1:I mean poor monica at the end of your assault, like that finale, that poor girl tried to speak but she couldn't even say what she wanted to say. So, like that's the thing, we're gonna watch a season of jersey where now we know that they've created horrible story lines against each other, toxic stories, and it's like not real now. It's like hard to be real about it, because it's like, because even with jersey, this is real life. Like a lot of these franchises, they're not friends off the shows and that's why it never works, because castmates.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's it. I've tried. I've tried explaining this to people. It's like whenever I'm in a show, it would be like while you're on that show right. During the whole process you're being filmed with the people you're around.
Speaker 1:You don't like everyone. You're in a show with no and it's not normal to just make up the way they want you to right.
Speaker 2:No you won't do that real life, no, like if you actually film the show with people's friends groups.
Speaker 1:It would be so boring I don't know that, though think about it, miami no it was good to watch, don't you think miami's? Do you watch miami? Yeah, I love miami because you know why you love it, because they like each other. They still, they still love each other. They still hang out off the show they're still cast mates though.
Speaker 2:It's not.
Speaker 1:They're not yeah, they don't it's.
Speaker 1:It's different than if someone just came to me and my friend group and we're like, hey, we're gonna film you guys and make a show about it, it would be boring it would be great if Jersey could do that, if they could put the goddamn swords down when the filming goes down and just fucking love each other in between and not fucking pay content creators to drag each other in between seasons. That would be wonderful, but unfortunately they don't do that and what we're finding out now is that, like they were, this is what I don't get. I don't understand why. Why do you have to have a problem with every single person? Do you have to have a storyline, theresa? Because you're fine. Like I said, you are the queen of probably the entire housewives franchise as a whole. You've been there since day one. Jersey was maybe the second or third franchise to come out. You've been the queen for day one. Nobody, nobody was coming for your seat. Your brother was never coming for your seat. Nobody on the cast was ever coming for your seat. I don't know who put that in your fucking head, but nobody was ever doing that. Everybody wants to just love you.
Speaker 1:And to get to your point about Louis, they did accept him in day one. The only thing that Marge said was let him talk about it because it was coming out. It was all over social media and I agree with you. I said there's digital proof of me saying I'm on Team Teresa for this one because of who started you on. I said when somebody tells you to shut the fuck up, margie, shut the fuck up around here or I would have punched you in the fucking face. If I were Teresa, I would have fucked you up if you didn't stop talking about my goddamn boyfriend, and Marge wouldn't shut the fuck up. So I agree, but we got past it all. We got past all of that, joe and Melissa also. Before that season, pizzagate had already happened, but they weren't allowed to talk about it. Actually, wait, no, I'm sorry. We meet Louie. We try to get along with him. Marge, don't shut the fuck up. We go through a season. Teresa's angry at Marge because now she blames the entire toxicity on Marge, creating this rumor about him being on a beach. No, it was already out there. Whatever, we have Vanessa coming out of the woodwork. He's married. He's engaged to get married January 2020. His runaway bride, vanessa, runs away. Good for her. By mid-2022, he's married to Teresa. What I think he does is he sees a vulnerable woman who just lost both her parents. Unfortunately, her husband, who ex-husband now, is getting deported after just spent five years in prison. You, by all appearances, her and joey and melissa were fine. You said you saw them on ultimate girls trip. Her and melissa were fine.
Speaker 1:She got a little upset in season eight before no, no, died their parents and I believe her misplaced anger with Joey comes really from that Him not spending enough time with Nono, the father, before he passes away, because they'd already lost the mom. Teresa spent a year in prison because of her ex-husband away from her mother. Her mother passes away. That's awful. Her father now is here. Joey, please spend time with dad. Please spend time with dad. He's sick. He's sick. He misses mom. Joey's busy. He's got a family he sees she sees that as a betrayal, disloyalty.
Speaker 1:No, no dies and yeah, she's angry. I get it. Okay, she has this misplaced anger, but then what does this asshole do? He comes in, he sees a bent, a bunch of bench relationships in her life and breaks them severely. But come to find out she of behind the has been fucking her castmates up the asshole with no lube for fucking years, and I don't know how far back the stuff with Jennifer Aiden goes.
Speaker 1:I don't know if she was doing this before Louis came along. I don't know if Jim was always doing this I have yet to get into the Twitter receipts, I just know. When I looked at it I said, oh my God, oh my God. Like Teresa, I was so angry yesterday I said I have tried to literally see this as Louie is the problem, not you, teresa, that you want to be friends with these people. You would be. It would be much easier on her and everybody else if they all got along. But guess what? They've all tried to get along with her.
Speaker 1:She made it very fucking clear she wants nothing to do with anybody, but doesn't have a reason why. You tell me why she's so mad at Joey. Why is she so angry at her brother? She wanted him in the wedding. She hugged Melissa before the wedding hugged him. We went, oh, let's draw this thing on the wall showing our family. And no, yes, hug, hug, hug, hug, kiss, kiss. Fake it. I don't give a fuck. Pick the funk. Fake that you love each other. You did it every fucking season. Every season we were able to refilm and be fine. Everybody hugged. And you know you could fucking sprinkle cookies here. By the way, you're getting sprinkled cookies for christmas. In case you didn't know, these sprinkle cookies you will be getting for christmas, okay wait, you know what's so funny about we had some.
Speaker 2:We had some sprinkle cookies in the kitchen and my mom's like oh my gosh, dylan, try these, they're so good. I took a bite and threw the rest of the cookie away and I was like this is the most disgusting cookie I've ever had.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna send you both and I want to see if you were between the sprinkle cookies from the shop right that she brought them from, or the I forget I'll have to find that, the bakery that she brought them from. Or I forget, I'll have to find the bakery that Teresa says it. Oh wait, Can we talk about Marilyn Manzo too?
Speaker 2:Nah, fuck her. She deserves none of my breath.
Speaker 1:They are. The Sopranos basically were made from her and her husband.
Speaker 2:I know Caroline Manzo deserves the worst life for the rest of her existence.
Speaker 1:She's the reason we'll never see that ultimate girls trip rocket. She is the reason and you know what. Can't even blame it on Brandy.
Speaker 2:Caroline Manzo. I'm going to say this directly to her. You know what? Caroline Manzo, if you or your little cronies listen, fine, take a hit out on me. You know, what If I die? I know it's because of you, so go at it.
Speaker 1:Go at it. I'm not at the Jersey Shore, by the way.
Speaker 2:Go at it, sweetie.
Speaker 1:Look.
Speaker 2:Caroline Manzo, I'm confused.
Speaker 1:She's probably in diapers somewhere. Like I am confused by her, like I just never thought that she was that afraid of her family, her husband, or like she would one go against dina write a letter in support of somebody that tried to murder her sister twice on a life not alleged in the in court filing he just got. He just got off on the charges. See, this is the thing about Jersey. We have Louie, who just was in court with his ex-fiancee, vanessa, who he was engaged to in 2020, who he hired a fake patient in 2022, after he's married to Teresa, to go into her fucking work, and that's as a patient with a fake name and everything.
Speaker 1:Oh, you were a mother of a narcissist, now you're a therapist. Oh, did you ever get back with louie? Now I can't pay. Now I find out who you're a fake person. Then we find out you're hired by bo diddle. Then we find out that you literally on behalf of louie, and then trace is like oh, it's okay, teresa, why is it okay for him to stalk his ex-fiancee when he's supposedly in love with you? Or did he fuck with you to get back at her and make sure it was in the public eye?
Speaker 1:Because that's what a narcissist does, I don't know. I'm just saying it's one or the other, like, think of it, think about either way, it's bad either way. How do you excuse it? But I'm not even mad at louis anymore because now I see that she's just as dirty as him. I'm sorry to say like I know we disagree. That's the best part about this, because our viewers, our listeners are not going to be oh my god, they're only team this one or team that one. Because it's so much deeper now, because now we got like we got to start after this week we're gonna have to get into the jennifer raden of it all, the margaret of it all, the dolores of it all. How could you be thinking dolores is boring by the? Do you not think her and Frank's relationship is fucking the best? And watching them navigate, I love it.
Speaker 2:I love it Okay, because you asked.
Speaker 1:I did.
Speaker 2:Frank.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Frank needs to grow the fuck up. You are no longer married to this woman. First off, leave her alone. Okay, do your thing, cope. First of all, he acts like these kids are, like toddlers. Fuck off, get a grip. You've got a girlfriend. Go live your life, stop being so emotionally attached to your like, yeah, it's, it's honestly, it's embarrassing To watch I know I wasn't there. Dolores, though, like she's so cute, holy crap, she's a sleeping pill.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You don't think that that whole dynamic Is fucking Fantabulous?
Speaker 2:There is nothing About Dolores that belongs.
Speaker 1:On reality Dolores that belongs on reality television, Not even as Teresa's loyalist friend most loyalty, friend, if that's a word.
Speaker 2:She's so boring Like, oh my gosh, for a minute. For a minute I thought there might be hope and she's like we're going to.
Speaker 1:Ireland.
Speaker 2:They talk about this castle. I'm like, first off, not only how are you the designated host of the trip, but you're the worst host ever. Nothing is happening, you're not contributing anything. You're so boring, you're I? Just no, there's nothing about her. Like when I think of Dolores now, all I can hear are one of two things. I just hear Frank, leave me alone. And I hear Paul your house is too hot Like that's it. That's all I think of Dolores.
Speaker 1:I hear Dolore, dolore, that's Frank. Dolore, Like what, although?
Speaker 2:I don't despise her. There is one person on this show. I cannot stand at all.
Speaker 1:I know it.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. They need to go. I don't understand those of you that, like her, margaret is the worst human being on the planet. She's fake, she's an absolute. Forgive me, but don't forgive me, because I don't care like dolores says in the little trailer and yeah, she calls her a fucking cunt no yeah I don't know what that's.
Speaker 2:Honestly, margaret is the worst all season, all last season long. She complains about people, she complains about this, she complains about that, she, she complains about this, she complains about that. She's the fucking cause about 80% of this bullshit. It's like you know what, woman, if you were so happy in your marriage, you wouldn't be causing all those problems. So what's really going on with you and your so-called husband, who's apparently loving you so much that you can't stay out of other people's business? Who's he fucking?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean Margaret, people's business. Who's he fucking, I don't know. I mean margaret, little margaret little little. Oh my gosh, and I don't understand how how she just doesn't get the fact. Margaret, no one's denying that jennifer's husband cheated on her, no one's denying it. Hey, you dumb, vapid little bitch, guess what? You don't have a family. That's super young. So when someone says it and someone calls you out for being a cheater and saying and doing besides, I'll be honest she seems proud about it and it's weird, it's weird no I?
Speaker 2:why? Why would you be proud margaret, get a grip on reality. But then you bring that out about jennifer. She has fucking young kids and the way that jennifer's youngest daughter has been affected by that. It just fills me with so much rage when I see margaret that I cannot believe anyone supports that woman. She is vile. She's disgusting. Like you actually altered the brain chemistry of a child. You altered the brain chemistry of a child because you brought something to light and it's like that is no better than what Joe and Melissa did to Gia and those girls when they were little and that's why I hate those two. You altered the brain chemistry of a child who's now so traumatized that that is something they are hyper fixating on and you can't fix that now because it's out there. It's like you know what fuck you. That's why you and melissa are such good pals at least give it.
Speaker 1:See, like jennifer's daughter at least wants to be a doctor. Like she's mad at her daughter for wanting to be a doctor. Like you could thank Marge for her. I know you're upset, but like you could thank Marge though. Like her daughter wants to be a doctor. Like I don't think it's a bad thing that her daughter, like I don't think her daughter seeing it as a bad thing. I really believe that it would have came out eventually because on that show, like whether now see, I don't agree, I agree with Marge. I've never brought it up.
Speaker 2:She's not saying a doctor. Though she's not saying a doctor, the child is being very specific. She said I want to be a couple's therapist. I want to help people who are falling out of love, because that's not a kid just saying they want to be a doctor. There's a reason she's saying it.
Speaker 1:It's that dumb little blonde, barbie, bimbo bitch, margaret, yeah did you see, like when she, like when she went with her ponytails, her pigtails, and then like her, like I don't know, I, I don't dislike marge, I just I realize now that, like the things that they do to her, like I, I wish tracer justin would never face being friends with her again because it's like not, you can't. They're never going to be friends. Like march, she's never going to forgive marge.
Speaker 2:Like I don't, she doesn't care everyone wants to make like theresa or melissa the villain. No, I'm sorry, marge is the actual real life villain. She's a piece of shit and I hope she listens to this. Hi, marge, my name's Dallin. I don't like you because you're a terrible woman and I bet you yell at service workers.
Speaker 1:Um, she got caught saying something off. She did a hot mic moment and didn't realize it was mic'd See, see.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know that she just exudes such a bitchy energy that I just knew, and it was about like one of the uh camera people.
Speaker 1:She said something about him, maybe not being all mentally yet, like not mentally able. Basically fuck off, marge right. And I'm like, oh my god. And then she tried to say I, I did it it was an?
Speaker 2:a. That's my mess. That's my message to her everybody. Anybody, feel free to send it to her. Hey, marge fuck off.
Speaker 1:well, hopefully, like when we tag, I'll tag food and all them, they'll get to, they'll eventually they'll hear this, they'll hear these episodes. So that's awesome because, honestly, like, like as podcasters, or like we're not real journalists, we, we just play them on TV. I'm just saying like we, literally we're being fair, like I feel like we're giving our booth, we're giving our honest opinion, like, and we're giving our, like, our emotional opinion because, like it is real, this is real life.
Speaker 2:And if you didn't want it, you wouldn't sign up to be a part of the show.
Speaker 1:Right, people don't go to cnn or like abc news or fox news to find out what's going on with the housewives. They go to podcasters, they go to social media. We matter, we're important, our voice matters. We keep them relevant between seasons, correct, we just don't have to make it toxic relevancy, you know. Yep, so I think we did a pretty good job of like pre pre gaming this.
Speaker 2:So before I want, I want to give my opinion on everybody real quick.
Speaker 1:Go ahead.
Speaker 2:As you can all tell, I love Teresa. I just I feel like I relate to her a lot. Yeah, Dolores Boring, I don't hate her, she's just she's boring for the show.
Speaker 1:What about Pauly?
Speaker 2:We've not seen him enough for me to form an opinion. Okay, margaret, if you weren't paying attention just now, what were you doing? Right, rachel, I like Rachel. I'm still. I don't have an opinion on her husband. I like her. I like her kids, rachel and Daniel's kids. I love both of their kids. I like her kids, rachel and Daniel's kids. I love both of their kids. Danielle has the cutest kids on the planet. I agree, I love Danielle. I know we didn't talk to her at all, but I feel like in that group if I were a person. Right, I'm her.
Speaker 1:Really, oh, I would love you, I would love it.
Speaker 2:I am Danielle.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I love that. Let's see, see, who am I forgetting I?
Speaker 1:know, so easily forgettable, so easily forgettable who am I forgetting? See jackie judas, jackie judas gold slater uh, jackie can fuck off. She's a piece of shit, I don't care about her. Yeah, me neither fuck off.
Speaker 2:No, there's someone else. There's someone else.
Speaker 1:There's someone else. Oh my God, who is Wait Melissa?
Speaker 2:Oh well, that's fitting, she's a try hard anyway. Fuck Melissa. Fuck Melissa and fuck her husband.
Speaker 1:And Jen Fessler, which I don't think she's not in any of the arms.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's weird because, like I don't like Jen Fessler, but I do like Jen Fessler, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1:I think she plays both sides of the fence right now.
Speaker 2:She's such a boring, weird fit for that group of women, but she's so necessary. Yeah, she's randomly necessary. It's like with jen. I feel like she's trying to be the dina from beverly hills or dina, oh my gosh, never mind. Uh. When she's like see these, see these 25 000, 25 dana. Yeah, I feel like she's trying to be her and and I'm like Jen, it's not working. Yeah, you'll never be Dana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fetch is not happening, just like no one will.
Speaker 2:No one will ever be Dana.
Speaker 1:No one will Dana's too good. I love you, Dana.
Speaker 2:Dana needs her own reality show Because.
Speaker 1:I watch it, thank you.
Speaker 2:Every day, every week. All the time with time she would like you say that, just just film her sitting on her couch eating chips and I'll watch it and like giving commentary because she knows freaking everything about like like I want her looking out the window, even like, look at that fucking bird. Do you know that that bird went to target yesterday and was stooped out on the roof and it was shitting on everyone? I've got the receipts right, I've actually got this video. Look at this. Look at this bird.
Speaker 1:But I talked to the bird's friend and like here's the real shit, like it gives all the receipts with their 25,000, our sunglasses, isn't she? I told you, told you she's awesome, but so, wait, wait, so we have, that's it, I mean. So I mean there is a new, there's somebody new? I don't I heard. Is there another new person? Like how do I not know this? I don't think I'm a new person with jersey, but we did good for a long time with no new, yeah, and then jackie came along and she barely fit she's barely fitting now. She went, had to be friends with theresa. Just I for what? I don't fucking know. But do you know right now, listen I, we all make mistakes.
Speaker 2:Well, I get it she's gonna get fired.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Do you get fired for settings? I don't know you. You might know, like I know, you could get fired for setting screeners to people. I think you signed a release or something. That's the thing like I don't know with. If they're gonna listen, you're gonna fire monica for being a part of bontese. That's like that broke thing. Like I don't know if they're gonna listen, you're gonna fire monica for being a part of bontese. That's like that broke my heart.
Speaker 1:I didn't sleep for three freaking days remember we were like mind for three days after the fact that they kept heather this those women in salt lake when you like look at other stuff like uh, this potomac miami, these women in salt lake are so fucking fragile, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1:It's embarrassing it is like I was like what the fuck am I watching? And how did I not say what dana told us? Dana told us and me, and you were like what the fuck are you doing, brother? Why are you? Are you lying? You knew about Von Teese, you knew, you knew, you knew. Poor Monica, poor Monica.
Speaker 2:I had a theory the other day. None of you know why.
Speaker 1:Because, like we talked about it, all Well.
Speaker 2:No, it's actually. I'm giving the producers a lot of credit here why? Because I'm trying to make it make sense It'll never. Season 4 was great. We all know that. Okay, that was a Jen.
Speaker 1:Shaw, one right Went away.
Speaker 2:No, season four was with Monica, okay, but even though Jen Shaw was gone, it was very Jen Shaw centric. Well, that's not Monica's fault, but I think and I'm judging this on with what they went with and I feel like they're possibly trying to get Jen out of the picture and Jen out of the story. And since Monica even said like it's a it's a bye for now, not bye forever, right Kind of thing. It's a bye for now, not bye forever, right kind of thing. Potentially set her up to bring her back on to be the show villain instead of having jen shaw back.
Speaker 2:So like, give her a season or two where she's away right establish, establish a new kind of vibe with it, get the memory of jen shaw gone right and then bring Monica Cause. Monica can come back. Cause she also has other friends that have connections to some of the housewives on it now. So it's like it's something that would organically fit.
Speaker 1:She fit organically anyway, because she came with her own bag of shit. She didn't have to create bags of shit with other stories, like you know what I mean. They didn't have to do what they did, but it came under the caveat of jen shaw so if you get the gen.
Speaker 2:If you get the gen out of it then, it can just be something more yeah I hate.
Speaker 1:by the way, guys, I am a solid. I hate jen shaw. I have videos of me screaming at this woman like you are a loser piece of shit. And I made monica the victim and she did not follow my goddamn lead. And if she would have followed my lead we would have been okay, because she was the victim of jen shah and heather and heather knew about bonties and heather had the hairdresser and heather, like it, just made me like we were traumatized, traumatized, extremely traumatized, by the fact that they tried to lie and bravo, lied about saying that they didn't know about Fante's when they fucking did. You're going to ignore an illegal letter? Go ahead, ignore an illegal letter and then try to sell it on us that you didn't know about it when Heather fucking knew and then said we're states, tie mines. Like you're not a red bitch, like that's an inbred thing. We thought we were going to believe you.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Bravo lying.
Speaker 1:Right Can.
Speaker 2:I just mention how angry I am that they let Brandy Glanville suffer for as long as she did before they made a statement.
Speaker 1:I know, I know.
Speaker 2:Holy crap.
Speaker 1:I know, I know and you know what else Bravo did, because, no, had they had balls to do that to brandy, like they literally filmed ultimate girl's trip with the rooney people and they showed sonia's naked body so many times. It's disturbing that bravo cameras laid on her like that. They laid on her naked body when she was getting naked. She's clearly not stable mentally or able to leave drink or anything, sonia. They brought up cameras and those producers are focused on her naked body like like what the hell is that? I kept saying this is weird. Guys, cut it out this, cut the scenes out. Get her help. Why bravo cameras focusing on her swimming in a pool with her like literally fucking naked and then like sit on the shit with Brandy and make it seem like she's like you know Brandy, screaming. Like this is happening, this is happening.
Speaker 1:And again, nobody was denying what happened with Caroline. She wasn't denying it. She's just saying you guys are pushing me to do this. Well, guess what? Now I believe her. I believe a lot of things like. Believe a lot of things like. And I think bravo has a lot of fucking issues with their showrunners getting involved, which I never knew what a showrunner was.
Speaker 1:I just I heard the term, I didn't know, a producer that creates storylines, or I don't know. Maybe they go back and forth, right. Well, whatever they did, laurie, whatever the fuck your name is that fucked with salt lake? And I find out you're the same one with jersey. It's like, it's like that's not real to watch to me, because if I literally him halfway through salt lake, I'm like wait a minute, dana said it, they're going to try to use von teese as a storyline, but we already know who it is. And blah, blah, blah, like no, that's not really going to happen. There's no way they're going to go against my like. It's like wow, okay, like yeah, if I was like traumatized with um, how can we watch it now, knowing that they kept heather, knowing she protected jen shaw?
Speaker 1:One more point about that this black eye thing that she joked around about for two years made it seem like it was a joke, alluding to jen doing it. Alluding to jen doing it, joking about it, okay. Well, if you were so scared of jen shaw, so afraid that you didn't had to protect her, then you should have just said from day one that you got hit in the head with a door and fucking called it a day and never said a fucking word about it and nobody would have questioned you, stupid black guy, for two years while you kept joking maybe you did it, maybe the producer did it, maybe you did it. Oh, like you were not afraid of jen shah. You fucking liar either. You're so inbred, stupid, that you were listening to the showrunners and you really thought we were that dumb that we were going to leave you.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, eat up this thing again because it suited her. It suited her need to make Monica look like oh, we can't protect people anymore because look what I did, I protect the gen. No, you didn't. You alluded to her doing it for two years to me. I don't need your protection because I can't wait for jen shaw to get out and really fucking punch in the eye. I can't wait for that day, both eyes, seriously, like you bitch. Like you you know I'm on probation, whatever the fuck, I'm on some kind of shit, and you're going to literally tell them I committed a violent act out on bail, like, and then say you tried to protect me, how.
Speaker 2:You alluded me to doing it for two years, like the fact that the fact that no one understands that if someone was actually scared of someone, you wouldn't wait until they're in prison to say that what like you'd say that. You'd say that when they were out to make their punishment more harsh, you would say when they're put away to be like I'm so afraid. No, you're not afraid, because what?
Speaker 2:you did was low and dirty, and now they they're going to be extra mad at you If you were afraid and you just said you hit it on the door and called it a day.
Speaker 1:You would have just never said anything. You would have said, oh, I hit it on the door last night, you would have protected her for real and never said a word about Junjia. Oh, I was drunk and I was drinking for 24 hours straight, heather, and I hit it on the door Because even if you were that drunk listen remember she starts drinking at five in the morning. She didn't stop until five the next morning and that goes on and on every day. So yeah, like you literally lied, heather, for a very long time On Ultimate Girls Trip, on the seasons, you tried to say, oh well, the producers did it, maybe Whitney did it, maybe this, like you really made everybody, but jen shaw then then you wait till she's away, go, I don't know, she might have, she might have, but then you say you're afraid of her.
Speaker 2:You should just say and I I know everyone says like, oh, I believe her. Now I believe they believe her because they want to believe jen punched her.
Speaker 1:I believe that you had to believe it I.
Speaker 2:I believe that heather had some work done at her place. That got punched and it bruised her and she can't say that, especially after Monica is like oh, I got some services. Done that botched.
Speaker 1:Sorry, heather you got botched and I have a picture of me after Botox. I got a sty in my eye for wearing makeup the next day and my face swelled up just like hers, and I'm going to have to send you a picture. If you put it side by side, my face looks awful. It looks like I got punched, but it doesn't look like a black eye. It looks like a swollen eye from, like a bee sting or like a right eye in your eye that you don't. That's what happened to her.
Speaker 2:It's not a black eye, black and blue, and enough people at this point have posted the pictures from that trip, or like a day and two before she already had something starting on her eye so it's like she didn't punch you.
Speaker 1:She made. She played a game around it and then tried to make like she was traumatized and just see all those bitches. Oh my God, heather, oh Heather, oh, I understand now. It's like fuck Monica, though right, like Monica is the one who tried to expose the criminal, she protects them and you're all hugging her at the reunion.
Speaker 2:Make it make sense it's dumb, it's dumb.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm excited to watch the preview, the premiere tomorrow may 5th may 5th, sunday, and it's on a sunday night and I guess we'll have this released. Well, on saturdays or sundays, you guys, you'll be getting a new episode every week. We're not going to edit it, so this is you hear. What you heard is you guys, you'll be getting a new episode every week. We're not going to edit it, so you hear it. What you heard is what you got what you heard is what you got.
Speaker 2:Waking up in the morning thinking about so many things. I just want things to get better. I wish I knew the whole song.
Speaker 1:I know I'm going to have to. I haven't, but I realized this whole week it was a learning process, but this is cool. I hope this sounds okay. So you're going to send me just a video copy, like you did when you texted me the one, right? Yes, okay, all right, guys, well, hear me talk. We already hung up, but you know where to find both of our podcasts talking like, we already hung up, but, guys, you know where to find our. Both of our podcasts are on spotify, apple, iheart, right, all that stuff, right, yes, yes, and our links. I'm sure we'll link them all in our sides of that. Please, please, five star. Review us on our podcast, please, even if you don't like us, you can send us a review. We will customize.
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Speaker 1:We're not asking for money, right, I'm not. You know, like, listen, like we're honest, we're not. We're not saying one side's better than the other, we're just giving our, our perspectives, perspectives and everybody, just as long as you realize, in the end of the world we write, that's okay, it right now, but I mean I'm only right. But whatever, I mean we'll see. I mean you're at the jersey shore. I mean it's like very hot out this week, so it's gonna be hot tomorrow. Just prepare everybody, wear their sunscreen and, uh, we'll see I live in a desert.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, so much it's. You know what. We have really bad heat here. We have like humid heat. Do you have dry heat there?
Speaker 2:yeah, you know what dry heat does to you no, I've never had.
Speaker 1:I don't leave jersey. I have never left jersey shore. I hate to say it like it's so bad listen.
Speaker 2:The thing I hate about humidity is it affects my asthma oh no compared to dry heat. It's fine think, think of dry heat and think of the word dry.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Think of dry. And then you know, it dries you out, it dries you up. So, like the inside of my nose always has sores because it's dry, my skin's always dry. My lips are always chapped and cracking and bleeding because they're dry.
Speaker 1:We're basically snakes oh no, I would not. Yeah, I mean, I would want to come to the west coast. I think you're in the west, I don't know, my time zone's all messed up what do y'all prefer?
Speaker 2:do you all prefer humid heat or dry heat? You tell us, tell us, because honestly I just like heat in general I don't.
Speaker 1:The cold can yeah, the cold can really fuck the fuck off, because when I think of salt lake, I think of mountains and snow, and you have, like you're in the desert though.
Speaker 2:So no listen. What they do on the show to us is so unfair. They make me and megan say this all the time. They make Utah look like it's just bitter.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:It looks like a tundra and I'm just like in my brain I'm like it's hot here. I'm like we get to summers. We go through like stretches of like 25 plus days, over a hundred.
Speaker 1:What? Why do they show mountains and snow all the time like?
Speaker 2:like if you saw, if you saw how green it gets here and it's probably pretty. I and I've been on the east coast and I've seen like east coast trees and all that yeah nothing compares to what the mountains look like here and the greenery and the water and just everything, nothing like that no when you say salt lake city, I think.
Speaker 1:Now I think of snow, but when you sit down I really think about you're right. It is like the nevada desert, like so wait. So where is wait? Where is that lake? Like what is it a real pretty lake? The blue lake? Is that nevada's not? Powell tahoe, like tahoe. Is that near you? Yeah, I want. Oh my god, it's not like beautiful, like blue water, I've seen only like a four hour drive from us.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I saw that and I think I would live there. I would. I love the jersey shore. I don't ever leave. I staycation here. I'm eight blocks from the winter, but I would go and live on lake tahoe. I saw that on the vanderpump kids. I was like, oh, I've never seen it like that. I've never seen a lake that beautiful. Like, oh my god, is it really that beautiful? Oh yeah, person.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, if that's what I just like, I don't know it's so funny because, like they do, they make make Utah look so cold and so snowy.
Speaker 1:They're always in snow boots. Heels Literally Jen Shah. They're going to events in snowstorms.
Speaker 2:Honestly, we hardly get that much snow.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. We don't get any at all anymore.
Speaker 1:We hardly get any snow and yeah, summer is just the hiking here is unreal see, I do like, see, I love when it right now, like when it when the jersey shore season hits, like right about now. As long as I've been here 46 years I still get very excited, very nostalgic when shirt, when housewives comes on jersey housewives it shows them at the shore because they start filming in like july. So very like, it's very you have to experience it really cool. But we're just a very like I feel bad because the rest of the world looks at us so hard, like jersey lish, us jersey shore. All we do is scream and yell at each other, but like literally the next day, we love each other, even like the next five minutes. That's how we, that's not that's not unique to new jersey.
Speaker 2:Everyone does that, and people who just peg that on there are stupid and ignorant oh mean, you guys are so toxic, you're so violent.
Speaker 1:It's like, well, I'm sorry, that other fucking show I mean, but it's for real, but we love each other. The passion comes from love. It really is. It's like it's. That's what it is. We don't put that much effort and passion into somebody that we hate, unless we've loved you for a long time.
Speaker 2:That's the other thing that frustrates me with people. People confuse passion with aggression.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like you. Really, if you don't know the difference, you need to go find yourself Right.
Speaker 1:Joey screaming at that christening was love, passion like that was love that was hurt in his eyes. His perception that's not like you know. I mean the way that Teresa screams when she cries about him are you?
Speaker 2:are you saying that, joey Gorga, that was passion? Yes, because he's no no, no, let's let's let, no, let's be so real right now. No, seriously, that man is so unhinged. There was so much rage and violence in the way he reacted. That was terrible.
Speaker 1:I don't know where it comes from. I really forgot that they started that season with that episode.
Speaker 2:He's disgusting and he's always been disgusting.
Speaker 1:Bad look, really it's a bad look. And they say that he took that from her season one with her flipping the table, and they're like that's not, it's not that, like he really has that in him, like I don't know, we just fight, it's just so. It's a shame that that's what the impression everybody got.
Speaker 2:Well, I fight, it's just so. It's a shame that that's what the impression everybody got. Well, I'm gonna leave everybody on a final thought, and my final thought is melissa and joe gorga can go fuck themselves and that was so much fun. It was fun yay no, I agree.
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel the same way when I tell, like I say stuff about I don't know. Okay, I'm gonna leave this as my final thought is I was team, not louis. I don't know how to feel. I'm going to leave this as my final thought is I was team, not Louie. I don't know how to feel any longer.
Speaker 1:Yesterday threw me for a loop. Teresa, I love you. I always have. I want the best for you. I'm just very confused on where your brain was. I would like an answer on where. Where it went wrong. Where did we go wrong? And to start having to pay people to drag family members and stuff? That all I want to know. Maybe we'll get there, I don't know. I don't know if I'll ever get that from her. I don't want to blame louie anymore at this point because I'm not sure. So I'll just blame jennifer. Aiden has that fucking bitch. That's how I think, that's how you feel, that I'm gonna tell you, jennifer aiden fuck the fuck off, bitch. Where the fuck are you from? We ain't drinking the same water. You ain't cut from the same cloth. Like the lawyer said, you and Jackie fuck the fuck off. Okay, all right, guys, we love you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it was so much fun. I'm going to go get ready for work now.
Speaker 1:Okay, I know I feel good. You're hung over. Sorry, it's a Jersey short. You know it's a tradition.
Speaker 2:Bye guys. Bye.
Speaker 1:Bye, are you still there? I don't know if we both hung up. I guess I had to hang up. Bye.