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042: Reiki Meets Modern Medicine // With LaTanya Hill

• Clairvoyaging • Season 1 • Episode 42

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Can you imagine healing chronic pain through the power of energy? Join us as we chat with LaTanya L. Hill, a remarkable Reiki master, teacher, and creator of KA Reiki, who transformed her life by using Reiki to conquer chronic pain. You'll hear about her challenging journey with traditional treatments and how reconnecting with her spiritual roots led to miraculous healing. LaTanya describes the potential of alternative healing methods, particularly her innovative work in bringing Reiki into healthcare settings for nurses and hospitals. LaTanya has made significant strides made in getting Reiki recognized as a complementary therapy in medical settings.

Discover how Reiki isn't just a healing modality but a profound tool for spiritual development. We discuss intuition and talk about psychic gifts that come in during Reiki sessions. This episode promises to deepen your understanding of the transformative power of energy healing in both personal and professional realms.

To learn more about LaTanya Hill or to take a class from her:
Visit: https://imreikinow.com/

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Lauren:

Hey pals, in this episode we talked to Latanya Hill, a Reiki master, teacher and creator of KaReiki. We chatted about her journey of healing her chronic pain through her discovery of Reiki and bringing Reiki to nurses and hospitals. I'm Lauren Leon.

Frank:

And I'm Alex Jones. We're a video podcast. Now, guys, we have a desk and everything.

Lauren:

Oh, my God, and continue. That's Alex Jones. We are a married couple learning how to develop our own intuition. And this is episode 42 of Claire Voyaging. Are you leaving that? Yeah, wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging. Way feather media presents claire voyaging. Claire, claire, claire. What, what, what? I'm sorry about him, don't be.

Frank:

This is directly to my people. They love this.

Lauren:

Oh yeah, yeah, this is right in the pocket.

Frank:

Is that what they say? This is the we're in the zone right now.

Lauren:

Hi, Hello friends, Hi guys. Guess what we're? A video podcast now and an audio podcast. So hi if you're watching us on video hi.

Frank:

We have the faces for radio, but we're making you deal with it.

Lauren:

now Speak for yourself.

Frank:

Anyway, people, okay, not everyone can see you. I know I was doing a little hair. She was doing a hair twirl, hair twirl Like a goddess. I'm giving goddess energy. Right, know, I was doing a little hair.

Lauren:

She was doing a hair twirl, a hair twirl Like a goddess. I'm giving goddess energy right now. That's good. Hi, welcome to Claire Voyaging. If you're watching this on YouTube, please subscribe.

Frank:

Yeah.

Lauren:

Welcome. I had a whole joke about smash the subscribe button and I hated saying it, even though I was saying it as a joke. It's on the cutting room floor, yeah, um. So there's that and fun update. We have some extra content from this conversation with latanya hill.

Frank:

Who she's?

Lauren:

amazing, really cool, and we're putting it up on our patreon. So if you like fun exclusive extras and you want to hear more of this conversation, hop on over to patreoncom slash Claire Voyaging Podcast and join for $4 per month.

Frank:

Latanya you might remember one of if you followed Lauren during her faded 30-day meditation.

Lauren:

Faded.

Frank:

I mean yes Okay.

Lauren:

Did I die at the end?

Frank:

That's TBD.

Lauren:

Yeah, I don't know.

Frank:

Latanya was one of Lauren's favorite meditations. She made one of them.

Lauren:

Yeah, she did a Reiki meditation. It's really good.

Frank:

on Insight Timer and that's how we found her.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

And she's a really like one of the sweetest people we've talked to, I think.

Lauren:

Oh, and just like brimming with energy and like so bubbly and sweet. So yeah, you guys are gonna love her she's great also just like little side note. I didn't know that you could make comments on spotify. I just saw like our first comment on a spotify episode.

Frank:

I had to approve it, so I might have been lingering there for a little while. Sorry if you're a fan and you're like, where, where's my comment?

Lauren:

yeah, my bad, but that's kind of fun. So if you want, to comment if you're like where's my comment? Yeah, my bad, but that's kind of fun. So if you want to comment, if you're listening on Spotify, if you want to comment I don't know if we can reply or not we didn't try that, we just were like approve the comment.

Frank:

New to us. Yeah, we'll figure it out.

Lauren:

We are older than we think, I believe.

Frank:

I think I'm pretty old, yeah, okay.

Lauren:

Anyway, let's get to the episode. Here's the lovely Latanya Hill the lovely Latanya Hill and learn a lot about her journey in to Reiki and also creating her own Reiki.

Frank:

Yeah, yes, discovering her own Reiki discovering Reiki and then discovering developing her own Reiki. Yeah, Anyway, Latanya Hill.

Lauren:

Yeah, go then. Discovering, developing her own reiki, yeah, anyway, latanya hill. Yeah, go, bye, latanya hill. Thank you so much for joining us on clear voyaging. We're happy to have you with us. Can you give us a little bit of a backstory, a little background on how you got here, like doing your reiki, master teacher, all the things? You're a lot more than that too. Can you talk about that a little bit? What brought you here?

LaTanya:

Sure, sure. So I was diagnosed with rheumatic fever over almost 10 years ago. For those who don't know, rheumatic fever is a condition that basically just causes intermittent pain throughout the body and your joints and it decreases your muscle and it also attacks the heart. So at the worst case scenario, you can, your heart could fail. At best case scenario, you're just living the rest of your life in intermittent pain, right? So, um, I basically was just OK, I don't.

LaTanya:

I was in treatment. I was getting like these horrible shots that they give you. They're the most painful thing you can have Giant needles and stuff, really thick liquid, and it really didn't help. Well, I'll put it like this it helped for one week out of a four week period, because it takes about a week for it to integrate into your body and then another week for it to start decreasing the pain, and so you have like basically one week of no pain, like a normal person, and then it starts back up again. So I was just like I don't see myself living this way forever. I can't do, I can't do it.

LaTanya:

And I just started getting back into my meditations, getting back into my prayers and, being a Southern girl, surrounded by healers and stuff. I remembered, like wait a minute, when I was a kid, we had, um, I'm a seal. She was like this healer that we would go to and stuff. So, um, I remember her telling my mom you'll be okay, she's going to be okay, and, like a lot of people when I was out here would come up to me and say, oh, you know, you're covered by angels, you have this gift. And I never really pursued it per se. I was just like telling people come to me and I can, you know, use my hands and I'll pull out the bad energy. I had no idea what I was doing. I'm going to be. Really, I had no idea what I was doing back then. I was just pulling out energy.

Frank:

Instinct.

LaTanya:

It was instinctual. Yeah, I could just feel like different like energy levels on a person, and some was heavy, some was light, and I would just pull out and balance it all. And so I said, well, let me start doing this for myself, you know. And so I would try and do it for myself to, you know, manage my pain and everything. And then I realized like I really need, like, um, a teacher, I need a mentor, I need a teacher, I need something, something that helped me to regulate everything. And I just was like praying and meditating. And then, um, one night, when I went to bed, and the next morning I woke up and I heard this voice, like literally like in my ear, saying you need to learn Reiki. And I was like what the heck is Reiki, you know? And I'm like first, and I'm like wait, first and foremost, who's talking to me? Because I'm looking around.

Lauren:

Great question.

LaTanya:

And then I was just like, ok, what's Reiki? I'm like, ok, this is a spiritual thing, let me just go with it. What's Reiki? And then I looked it up online and it was the same as what we did down South, which was laying on hands and energy around, and I was like, okay, I hear you, I hear what you're saying. So I immediately enrolled in a course, I became certified as a Reiki practitioner and I thought, oh, I'm just going to use it for myself.

LaTanya:

But I kept getting these messages. I kept getting messages saying like you know, go help your friend, go do this, go do that. And then eventually it was like, well, start your own business. And then I was like, ok, but I'm not going to be a Reiki master, I'm just going to start my own business, I'm just going to help my friends and family and I'll just do it from time to time. And but it just kept going on where people are like, well, if you're like this as a Reiki practitioner, what are you? Will you be as a Reiki master? Cause I could feel all this energy going through my body and this and that. And next thing, you know, I'm a Reiki master teacher. And I was like, well, well, I'm not teaching anyone, I'm just gonna move to a higher level. And then people started coming to me saying, well, do you teach? Will you teach me, can you show me? And I was like, okay, okay, universe, I hear what you're saying. And I just kept having these dreams of me teaching people and doing stuff. And so I finally started teaching and certifying people.

LaTanya:

And then, the next thing, you know, I write a book about. Oh, yeah, I wrote a handbook. I oh, I think I might even forgot to tell you a handbook, um, about Reiki. Uh, it's called Reiki Vibrations, um, with 33 meditations and affirmations, and it's just a little handbook for Reiki healers to use. Because what I found when I was working with people, especially healers a lot of them just they didn't understand what they were honestly doing Some of the times, because they were just following the script instead of following their intuition and their inner spirit and their guide.

LaTanya:

Or there were Reiki master teachers who got scared about the level of spirituality that comes with Reiki as you go higher. And because then you start, yeah, you start hearing things and you start seeing things and on your, your gifts that you have internally, whether it's, you know, clairaudience, clairvoyance, clairsentient, whatever it enhances it. Reiki integrates with your special gift and it enhances it so much that it's almost like um, I mean, it's tactile, it's no longer like a intangible thing, it's really tangible and it scares a few people, but for me it was lovely, I loved it all. I was like bring it to me, give it all, give it all to me. And it did, it did, and so I love the dreams, I love the voices, I love the visions, I love the spiritual entities floating around my house.

LaTanya:

I embraced it all and I even used to send video to people and like look at this one, look at this one, look at this spiritual entity, look at this orb, and they're just like what is going on at your house. And I was like I'm healing in the spirit world, I'm practicing. They're just like. You need to get back over into this world, lady, quit messing around. But you know. But I wrote. I just said let me write a book about you know what to expect when you're a Reiki healer and when you're starting this journey. It's not just about healing, it's about the entire spiritual spectrum that can come and knock on your door. So just be prepared. And that's how that book came into existence. That book sounds really that sounds great yeah.

LaTanya:

Like me. It's to the point, like I know. No, no disrespect to anyone who's written a book and they like to give, like, a lot of information. I'm very succinct and to the point. I'm giving the person what they need to learn. I like that Practice Like I'm like it's too many details.

Lauren:

I don't need to know a complete history about from the time you were born till now, even though love it, but I I'm like I don't want to read a lot of that. Yeah, no, I'm the same.

Frank:

I'm like get, give me the information, like as plain as possible I used to work at a book publishing company and I can pretty, pretty confidently say that writers their favorite writing is their second favorite thing to do. Their first favorite thing to do is to love, love themselves and their ability to write. But, yeah, um, I'm down for a tolkien description every once in a while, but when it's too much, it's too much. Man, yeah, you, you, you are getting us to where we need to be and and I appreciate that.

LaTanya:

I, I. It is my gift, I feel, in the part of my spiritual contract, to just give what is needed, not all this additional stuff to fluff it out or make it longer so you can up the price.

Lauren:

It has 50 more pages than you'd expect. It should be worth more but, no, yeah, let me add another five $10 for those 50 pages.

LaTanya:

Yeah, yeah, no, no, I keep it because I really want Reiki and healing and people to utilize their gifts in everyday life. I really want someone who has the ability to walk into that dream world and take information and bring it back into this world. I don't want them to be afraid to do it and to know that.

LaTanya:

You know it is possible to do and um and to succeed and transmute whatever is over there into this world to help you. So, yeah, that that's, that's my um, my little contract that I decided in my spirit I should say decided that this flesh is going to do in this world. So healing just really segues into it, because my gift started way before the healing did. I used to have prophetic dreams when I was a kid.

Lauren:

Okay, yeah, I was going to ask you if you had spiritual stuff as a kid.

LaTanya:

Yeah, it runs in my family. My entire family actually has. Either they either have prophetic dreams, they either have spiritual visitations from old relatives or friends, or they have the, you know, just basically the gift of healing, or like multiple gifts. My grandmother was very much in a spiritual realm and even though we're like, okay, so we're down south tuscaloosa, alabama, small college town, right, and it's very, very religious, right, you know, they ask what's your name and what church you go to. You know sometimes what church you go to and then what's your name? Oh boy, yeah, okay, so it's, it's. It's sort of weird because you have that going but you have a lot of spirituality around you, a lot of people practicing natural arts and healing and putting salt down outside, they cleanse their house and stuff. So it's it's just too. It's weird because it's like very much intermingled but so opposite. Yeah, but once very religious, very spiritual, but then they practice natural arts and natural healing methods.

Lauren:

So the same person might be super religious and also do the like kind of spiritual practices. Yeah.

LaTanya:

Oh, wow, okay, so you have. Oh, oh, you might you might have eaten something wrong. Don't eat at someone else's house. We got to cleanse your body. You know they'll put like water in a glass and open the bible to a passage and burn a candle, a white candle, and say the lord's prayer, and to cleanse and purify your body from everything is. And that's how I grew up. This and that's that's like. So someone was like well, how do you combine it too? I'm like I don't know any difference.

Frank:

I don't know and, sorry, remind me what area we're in during this period.

LaTanya:

Tuscaloosa Alabama. Oh right, yeah.

Frank:

That's amazing. So in some areas of the united states, like that might have been something that was very looked or frowned upon, you know right, but like in your area, it was part of it, which is very funny yeah, that's so interesting it was definitely part of it.

LaTanya:

Like I I said, we had um in our neighborhood. There was a. I know it's sound really stereotypical, but it really is true. There was an old blind lady. Yes, those are the best.

Lauren:

Her name is Mama Seal, as I mentioned earlier.

LaTanya:

Okay, this is Mama Seal, this is Mama Seal, okay, okay, and you know we, you would go to her to get um blessings and stuff and bless coins or blessed items, or to bless something in your house, or if you're feeling sick and ill and no one at the doctor can figure out what it is, you go to her to see if it's a spiritual attack and stuff, and she would give you stuff, powders and things that to cleanse your body or tell you um things that you need to do to get release whatever it's been attached to you, or if you've eaten at someone's house and they fed you something that they shouldn't have, and stuff like that. Because it goes on. I don't. I don't know why people think it doesn't happen. It does happen. So so you have to.

LaTanya:

You know, and she was the, the healer of the neighborhood, and you just gave her a donation. There was no like, oh, this cost this amount, this cost that amount. You just gave her whatever, whether it's food, whether it's go run an errand for her, whether it's, you know, whether she needs a bill paid or something. You just do that kind of stuff and and that's that's I mean. Again, that's how I grew up, that's my life.

Lauren:

She really co-existed in that neighborhood.

Frank:

Yeah, like a community person.

LaTanya:

Yeah, exactly, I mean, I was just like I, even as a kid, though I felt like, oh, I want her to teach me, I want to learn. And my mom was like get out of there. You are too young, you know, you need to get a real career focus. Little did she know, I didn't know being a Reiki healer and everything. And she's just like so you're not taking the bar. I was like she's like so you're not going to be an attorney, like mom. Um, I have been moved into the Reiki world. This is my thing, I love it, I'm happy. I smile all the time. She's like are you sure? I was like don't ask about that, no more, okay, we're not doing the attorney thing.

Frank:

You're an energy attorney.

LaTanya:

Yeah, she's like well, what are you going to use it for? I said I can use it for my business mom. I said she's like well, what are you going to use it for? I said I can use it for my business mom. I know how to do the legal stuff. How about that?

Frank:

Yeah, there you go. So did your mom eventually come around to like being supportive?

LaTanya:

She did. She let me once, she let me do Reiki on her. She got it magic. Yeah, yeah, she's just like our eyes were open. I said close those eyes, I'm still working. What is that? What is that? And I said, yeah, mom, that's, that's the energy. It's moving through your body, it's cleaning out all that stuff, all that trauma from your childhood. And and she was just like wow, she she was. She said I got a little scared, tanya, I got a little scared. Oh, I was like why? Because you know, she's older or whatever, and she goes. Because I just felt it just going through my body and I didn't know what that was and that's why I had to open my eyes and make sure you were still there oh my gosh, that's really sweet I was like oh yeah, mom, I'm here, don't worry, because I don't touch when I do Reiki.

LaTanya:

you know you can do, can do hands on and hands off. I and I and I'm gonna tell you every Reiki healer that I've met and I've talked to they are so scared when you first start to do hands off because you have like this doubt in your mind. You know you have to clear out what you've been taught in this world Like there are unseen things that can happen and you're just like, oh, I don't know if you're really going to feel it if I don't touch. I don't know. But the truth of the matter is like, once I stopped touching people, I felt more energy moving.

Lauren:

Okay, so I'm a Reiki master and I attuned Frank to level one and two and I learned hands-on. So I usually do hands-on and Frank he's like I feel like I can feel things better if I do hands-off. So it's kind of it's kind of interesting and sometimes I will as well be like let me just I'm you know, scanning or whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's interesting.

LaTanya:

Yeah, and my and my um who is it one of my students? Well, she's a reiki master teacher now, so so she's at my level, yeah, and she has a great gift, like she has a um. She can see, like all kinds of things that are happening with the body and get these, uh, visions and stuff oh, wow so she, she definitely likes to touch, she's very tactile.

LaTanya:

I'm like do hands off, do hands off and she goes. No, I need to feel and I wonder if it's because she can actually visualize what's going on and she gets vision Sometimes, I wonder. I was like I would love to do a study on that, but I'm like I have so much going on, I can't, I can't add more to my plate because I have so much going on. I can't, I can't add more to my my plate because I have, like a way too much I'm doing right now.

Lauren:

Yeah.

LaTanya:

And and segwaying into like as a Reiki, like as as a Reiki master teacher. You know how we really want to start working in hospitals and get stuff done and patients and stuff, stuff done and patients and stuff. And so, yeah, I, um, I went ahead and got I'm ricky now certified or approved, I should say, by the california border, registered nursing.

Frank:

Oh, I don't know you can do that.

LaTanya:

That's amazing wow I don't think a lot of us knew we could do that. Yeah, again, this is where the legal part comes in. Yeah, hey, like I'm working for the government. This is why I tell my mom hey, you know, when you work for the government and you have a legal background like certain things that other people don't recognize or think about you, you figure out.

Lauren:

Yeah, it wasn't for nothing, mom it wasn't.

LaTanya:

Yeah, she's so proud of me.

LaTanya:

now she's like like you did that. I was like, yeah, mom, I didn't, it was hard but I did it. It took a while, took months, but I got it done. Yeah, I got it approved. So so my, my next big thing is to get like nurses and clinicians um into the class so that they can start practicing reiki and working with patients for patient care. It's it's using reiki as a complementary therapy for patient care. And the manuals and everything like they just went out last month online and stuff and the teacher's edition and trainee edition, and I already have like a few people calling me asking me you know, to one, get in the class or two to get certified as a healer, as a healer to train. But you have to. I keep telling them I'm sorry, but you have to train through me. It has to be under I'm Reicky now, that's one thing about it. You have to be a contract employee. You can't do it under your own business, right? That's the only thing. Um, it.

LaTanya:

So it's like a a system through the government it's through the california board of registered nursing as an approved provider. The whole course I created.

Frank:

Wow, that is just for the company and and her as the practitioner is like certified and, but everyone who does work in the hospital they have to be like basically an employee under you to move forward with that certification. Is that? How is that correct?

LaTanya:

yeah, yeah. So if you're a reiki healer, you want to train other like clinicians and nurses and give them the contact hours anyone in like those people in the medical field, then you would have to work under I'm reiki now as a contract employee yeah that's so cool.

Frank:

I had no idea that you could do that. Yeah, so hold on. Can I ask you a question? How um are you running into a lot of like standard western medical personnel who have bothered to attempt to comprehend Reiki? And if not, how do you explain it to them?

LaTanya:

So let me tell you how this started. I'll even tell you how this course came about, because you're going to be surprised. Everything, honestly, is spiritually divine for me. Like I go whatever my spirit tells me, and everything in this particular area has come through spirit because I started getting a lot of people in the medical field doctors, therapists, um, neuro divergent scientists and stuff, uh, social workers who wanted to become certified as Reiki healers and, um, it was just like, huh, this is so weird. Okay, sure, I'll certify you, no problem, are you going to practice? You know, some people want to use it in their practice and some people wanted to use it at home with their family and I was just like, oh, okay, Because they might have had a kid or someone who may be autistic or who have the medical condition and they wanted to, like, put in alternative healing Because nothing else was working Right, and so they were getting signs and they actually found me a lot of them.

Lauren:

On insight timer where my Medicaid with you, yeah.

LaTanya:

So they found me there and they were just like, and I kept feeling stuff and I just kept hearing like I need to contact you, I need to contact you, so I'm contacting you. I found you and I was like, I was like, okay, and so, by teaching them, they kept saying, well, you know, I'm going to use this with my patient, I'm going to integrate this in my practice now. Or, and I just kept thinking about and I kept hearing you know, you should do a course, you should do a course. And you know that one little voice that said you need to do Reiki. I was like, look, you got me doing a lot of stuff. Right now I'm trying to keep afloat, I'm trying to write. You know, you have me writing. I'm writing, doing freelance writing, I'm trying to write a book. I'm trying. I'm like you know I'm doing, trying to get build up this practice. I have clients, I have a lot of stuff.

LaTanya:

I was like, oh, at that time I had a Reiki house out in Yucca Valley which now is like full-time rental. It's not even existence anymore. I had to take stuff off my plate where I was doing healing stuff and and um, and I and I was I can't. But then the last person I think was a neurodivergent scientist out at UCLA. When I went up there and certified her and she, she was the one who had the child who was autistic and she said her child said that, mommy, I know you can do it because I can, it's in your hands, you need to help me.

LaTanya:

And I was just like, okay, all right, that's a big one, that's a big one, yeah, and she was like I don't even know how I'm gonna explain this to my peers because this is so opposite yeah where you know what, my belief system, what I'm taught.

LaTanya:

but I just know, I felt all this energy and my, when my son said that I had to be certified, maybe, and she kept saying, maybe you're the one who will bring it to the masses, maybe you're the one who will help everyone and learn. Maybe through you, more people will start practicing and doing it and you will make it something common and and it'll be like scientifically proven eventually and people will understand how energy works. And I was just like, wow, you know, that's a big ask, you know that's really yeah, but but I was also really like um, honored, because she's uh, you know she's, she's really up there as a in her field. And so I was just like, wow, that's, that's great. And she's like anytime you need help, let me know.

LaTanya:

I never, like you know, went back and, hey, I need you to do X, y and Z, but I did hear what she said and I kept hearing it again and again and I kept dreaming about it. And then, next thing, you know, I was moved from writing stories and books to like, okay, let's write this manual as a Reiki, as a complimentary therapy for a patient care. There you go and it just load, load, load. I mean I was just like, wow, this is crazy. I love this, that's awesome.

Frank:

So in your manual, are you like oh man, I imagine you've had to develop like different language that you use, as opposed to what you might learn in like a reiki class because of who you're interfacing with all the time. So do you like have to avoid like any kind of woo woo language or I?

LaTanya:

I do. Actually, you really have to stick with the healing part and how it can affect patients. And, um, I practice well as you. I was certified as a Holy Fire 3 and Karuna Reiki Master Teacher, but I actually once again divinely sent to me started practicing Ka Reiki, which is my style of Reiki and it's more earth center, it's more nature center, it's more individualistic, it's more towards the healing part of like someone like me, with conditions and stuff. It really is. It's weird because it's what it changes.

LaTanya:

Every single person has felt like a heaviness, like almost like a blanket or a shield around them and they felt like a cleansing happening and occurring. That's what that's been like. The commonality with using kawariki. Wow, and even when it started coming to me, I felt like a blanket on top of me or a shield or something protecting me and then my body just being cleaned out and stuff like that. So I, you know, I kept like having these dreams about it and stuff and I said, okay, okay, this is a Reiki that's going to be for this particular practice, this is what I use and that's all I do now. I don't even practice anything else, I just practice my style of Reiki and I put that Reiki out.

LaTanya:

And then, when it came to the book, I, yeah, I have to use like, like things that are specifically for nursing and for clinicians that they would use in their practice. I would have to use their language and I did have a nurse One of my friends is a nurse, um, so I had her like review everything and double check everything and make sure my verbiage was correct and stuff like that, and, and she helped do that for me, um, and then I you also have to put in, um, you know you have a natural bias, biases and stuff that you have to like overcome, sure, so you put that in too there you have to like overcome Sure, so you put that into there, you have to integrate it within the actual course.

LaTanya:

So I had to do that part. Luckily, I already had training on that and I used to teach that a while back and stuff, because I used to be. I am still. I am still like a court appointed special advocate for children and dependency.

Frank:

Okay, you are busy, yeah, you're not kidding yeah. Yeah.

LaTanya:

I have to. You know, yeah, I have to regulate some things, I. So, my, my girl, my, my. I've had her well, she's been my, my child since she was 16. Now she's like 22. So she's off now in the Philippines, grown and everything, and taking care of her life and business, and I even certify her as a Reiki healer. Oh, that's awesome, great, and stuff, and um and so. With with that you get all these types of trainings and stuff and, and inherent bias is one of them, you know. So, um, I had already taken that class, I had already done it, and then I used to do trainings and stuff and working for the government and helping them. So it was very easy for me to write up about that particular thing and how to integrate reiki principles into, uh, clearing out and acknowledging and recognizing your own personal biases and then overcoming them and stuff. So that's a part of the manual too. That's like a whole section that I put in. That's awesome.

Frank:

You're so uniquely qualified to do this specific thing too through the nurse thing, all the government stuff like reiki to the masses here you are, I mean, it's true like yeah, so it's so great as far as, like the, the, the, the more medical, based, like personnel that you're working with, how are what in?

Frank:

let me bake my question here what are you telling them you're affecting, like? You know what I mean. Like what is the? Is there like a physiology that you can explain to them, or is it just like are you, are we still expecting them to kind of take a leap of faith until they experience it on their own?

LaTanya:

Mostly I tell them that, I remind them that we're all energy because they know they, they understand the biomechanical and all this kind of stuff and they understand that we're all energy and that they understand that stress and all those external factors can affect your health. And if you can alleviate stress and if you can relax, then it helps the medicine come in and help you. It helps you prepare you for surgery. If you're tense and scared and anxious before surgery, you know it can affect your outcomes after the fact. They understand that. So they're like, if you can, if we can like, just calm them down, if we can make them not anxious, if we can de-stress them, if we can relax them before they go into surgery, before we give them anesthesia and everything else, then everything their whole medical outlook in their recovery will be quicker, it'll be better, they'll be healthier, they have a healthier mindset, mindset they won't be such in a negative zone afterwards with all the pain alleviate the pain if we can get them in a state of relaxation where they don't feel as much pain.

LaTanya:

We don't have to give them as much medicine because a lot of despite what people may believe a lot of the nurses and the medical people, they don't really want to give as much medicine. Oh, I believe that, yeah, yeah, you know they're forced to because they have to, but if they find a way where they don't have to and it works, there they're 100% in, especially the nurses.

Frank:

I think that's why this is funny to me, because the I always, and maybe I'm wrong. Someone, because the I always and maybe I'm wrong, someone's going to yell at me for this, which is fine, I deserve it if I'm wrong. But I always feel like, in the medical field is always like mechanisms over. I don't know results first, but this seems like you know, like they want to know how it's working. For the most part, actually, that's not. Maybe that's not entirely true, but that's what I'm accustomed to. And in your case you're saying like hey guys, this is, this works and it gets you the results that you need. So, uh, let's use it more.

LaTanya:

And I think that's. That's really cool. 800 hospitals are, you know, are using Reiki practitioners and have volunteer Reiki staff on call.

Frank:

I didn't know that. That's awesome. I had no idea.

Lauren:

Yeah, I didn't know that statistic.

LaTanya:

Yeah, so I've done the research. Well, with the book you know I had done the research, that's pretty solid.

LaTanya:

It is and it's a lot, and they're all over. They're all over. By the way, all over the nation, different hospitals and some have even certified their nurses on staff as Reiki. Their alternative, um, uh, like division within their hospital that it's an option for the patients to go to. The problem is like we need them the insurance to pay for it. You need. The only way the insurance will pay for it is if a medical provider is offering it. That's how. That's why I said that's the only way I that's why I designed the course. If we can get more of them doing it and working with their patients, then eventually I feel like there will be enough data, because they have to do their notes right, you have to do your nursing notes and everything, and so once you put that in there, that's cumulative data to show how Reiki is assisting or maybe not assisting certain people and then eventually, eventually, you know.

Frank:

But probably assisting.

LaTanya:

No, it will assist, we know it will. We know it will, yeah, we know it will. And then I feel like that'll be enough research to like start with maybe the argument of hey insurance company, can you pay for this? If we just bring in a regular rate too, yeah Right.

Frank:

That's awesome that's awesome that's awesome.

LaTanya:

You, you're really leading the charge here this is yeah this is all news to me I'm thinking I'm I see, I know I'm not new to try to get this done. I know there's someone who and I I can't even remember her name. I'm so sorry to her, but I know if she's listening, if she's still alive she'll definitely let herself be known. But she started this whole medical Reiki terminology and stuff and working in hospitals and everything a long, long time ago and, um, like I think over 20 years ago, and then, little by little, you know, a lot of us are a few of us have, you know, went in and some of us work with hospitals exclusively and and everything.

LaTanya:

And I feel like the door is shut. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like when they get that in with the hospital, yeah, they don't really want to help anybody else get in because it's so hard. Yeah, and that's what reiki is about. Right, you know, you're, what you have is what you have and what you share is what you're supposed to share with everybody. And so with this particular course, with the way I'm doing it, I want, like everyone to be involved and I want I don't want the doors closed, I want them open. I want nurses doing it, I want physical therapists doing it, I want Reiki healers there. If the hospital says, well, we, our nurses, are busy, okay, well, can we bring in some healers and they, you know, they get paid for it and they get get it done because you're, you're still working.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah. That is interesting Cause there is a I think this is awesome and what. Everything you're doing is incredible but there is like that small fear that like it's going to get into the medical system and like the whole thing's going to be Reiki in in a medical system is going to be like more of a corrupt I don't know not corrupt, but like adulterated or slightly tainted with like like the westernized ideals of medicine and stuff.

Frank:

I don't know, it's very funny, like it seems. Like you, I don't. I don't want the you know medical community to like start doing any kind of gatekeeping like that, where they're keeping it to themselves, or like closing the doors, like you're saying, but at the same time, if we don't let them have access to it, we are gatekeeping, aren't we?

Lauren:

yeah, that's yeah complicated yeah it's tough.

Frank:

It's like when you find an indie band you're like no one else can listen to them. I found them first, but they're so good you got to hear them and then they get on the radio and everyone's like they sold out yeah and you're like no they're still out that's very funny I have a question how much is the chakra system mentioned with anyone in the medical field, like I have it in the book.

LaTanya:

Yeah, I, I actually because I'm a chakra healing master too, so I definitely had to put in the book. I couldn't leave that out. Yeah, um, about the chakras and your energy centers and stuff, because if we're all energy and we have, there has to be an energy center. So this is where our energy centers are and this we're going to work with and I describe them and I even, you know, put in a brief little translation about like where what affects what in the body and stuff, so that they can go into it. But we both know I mean we all three know right that you don't necessarily have to know all the chakras to do. Yeah, because if you're naturally intuitive and you're doing it, you're, it's going to move you wherever it goes right yeah, it's, it's natural.

LaTanya:

But, um, I did mention that because I feel like you know it gives people somewhere to start and to work those areas in conjunction with wherever the healing might be, because you might have pain where in the, let's say, your arm, but it might be originating down in the leg. So I've had that, even with clients where they have pain up in the upper body but then I go to their feet and then they feel the pain being released up here. So that's why I added in the chakra system, just so they can, just the major ones, just so they can get. I'm sort of giving them a little of the woo-woo kind of thing. Yeah.

Lauren:

You can't really leave it out, know, like yeah, yeah, and I think that's a good point the chakra.

Frank:

If I'm ever gonna like woo someone a little, I always talk about chakras first, because I'm like, listen, this has been around for a very long time, yeah there's a lot of history to this yeah, you, you can't, you can't deny the chakras, that's one thing for sure. So that's for sure that that is 100 can I ask you a couple questions about, like, your personal intuition yeah, I love you too, I have.

LaTanya:

I had a dream last night. That was all crazy.

Frank:

Go ahead let's start there go on I'd love to hear more latanya, yeah I, oh, should I say this dream?

LaTanya:

okay, I don't want to scare anyone, I don't want to scare anyone. So, yeah, I had this dream that me and my I like to call it my my teacher, but it's like my master teacher in the spiritual realm, sure. So he's so freaking tall, right, so huge and tall compared to me, and always in this, either a white or black robe, and never the face shall I see, but always I see the arms and everything because he or she is so tall, the arms and everything because he or she is so tall, but just talking to me and telling me about, like my next part of my life journey. And, um, I was just like, oh no, that's a lot of work. I was like, are you kidding me? Like saying, well, because, and when I say talk, I mean like he she gives me like visions right in my dream.

LaTanya:

Whoa, so in my dream I have like these visions going through my head of me being up and talking to people, and I actually I was talking to another Reiki master teachers and they were like, oh, I would, I think I want to do the course. I said, well, if you're going to do the course, why don't you learn Ka Reiki and you have to learn it through me and you have to put it out there and you have to do this. And I was like negotiating and willing and dealing with this person and they were just OK, ok, I'll do it. You know, how much are you going to charge? I'm like I don't know, I haven't even been told the price yet.

LaTanya:

And I'm just like, and then I pop back into my body in the dream and I and I'm talking to my teacher'm like why am I? Like what are we doing? I like no, this is what you have to do and this is a part of it. And and then when you pass like it has to continue, you have to. You're putting down the roots and it has to continue with other people, so you have to go. It's like you know the tree. I always saw a tree, even when I was a kid, and with all these limbs and branches and every single one has a different thing on it, and I was just like, oh, the tree again, the tree again so, so your dreams you are, you like um, I'm assuming there's a element of lucidity to your, the way you dream.

Frank:

Do you go into the evening knowing that it's going to be like that automatically? Or do you do something or like have some kind of like mantra or ritual that you do to like get into that state where you're just so open to communication?

LaTanya:

My grandmother God rest her soul is the one who taught me how to be awake in my dreams, to do lucid dreaming. It's so weird you say lucid dream, but back in the day she's like um, because I used to have nightmares all the time as a kid, really bad nightmares where I was fighting demons and monsters and and I would wake up with bruises on my body oh my god yeah, it was really.

LaTanya:

Uh, it was deep and um, and my grandmother was like you know, you need to like, learn how to be awake in your dream and fight in your dream and when you need to leave, when it gets really dangerous and you need to leave. You need to learn how to be awake in your dream and fight in your dream and when you need to leave, when it gets really dangerous and you need to leave. You need to learn how to switch your dream. And I was just like how do I do that? And she said, well, before you go to bed, you have to tell yourself exactly what you want and how you want it done, and then you have to keep imagining that as you go and drift off into sleep. And so I just started doing that.

LaTanya:

So whenever I would have as a kid, when I would have like a dream that would start that way, and then I'd veer off into the nightmare, she said you have to turn around and face whoever it is. You can't run. You have to stop and face whatever's coming after you and say no. She said just shout, no, go away, I'm in control. And I was like what? I was like I can't you asking a lot of like a 10 year old but um, and so I mean, obviously it took a while for me to to figure it out and get it done, but eventually she was right, like I, I would just be like I'd stop and I'm like no, no, in my dream.

LaTanya:

And and I was able to like control, and I was like, wait, if I can say no and stop it, then that means I can detach. And so I just practice detaching in my dream and watching myself in my dream as I go through things. And then if I didn't like it or if I felt like, ok, my spirit said OK, this is a danger zone, you got to get out of here because the area you shouldn't be in, or something like that, yeah, then I would just switch over into a different dream and I don't even know what's going to happen. I just say this is dangerous, I have to leave, and then my, my whole body and mind would just switch over into something that's nice and light and fluffy, or I would wake up completely, like, like that wow, it's amazing sleep.

LaTanya:

So yeah, it's a lot of dream walking, a lot of. I realized like I was walking in my, you know, doing astral projection, and didn't even realize it. Um, I was in someone's house one time, this guy's house. Um, I met him here in la, weirdly enough, and this is when I was like really like well and out in my twenties and we were just friends, nothing else, just friends. I met him here. Wait, are you?

Frank:

suggesting that you did an astral projection. Walk of shame right now.

LaTanya:

Is that what's going on? Nothing happened. I just saw his house. Nothing happened. I just saw his house, nothing happened. I just saw his apartment Weird.

Frank:

Maybe if he was with me he knew how to do it.

LaTanya:

But I was just there by myself, nosy little girl. Yeah, I met him here and he's like oh yeah, if you come to Germany, you know you can stay with me in my place. I was place and I was like, oh no, I have family in Germany, I can stay with them and we can just hang out and um, you know, and see what happens and whatever. And, weirdly enough, like the week after I met him I was, I saw myself like just rising up, going all the way to Germany in his house, in his apartment, but I didn't know at the time where I was. I just went into this apartment, I looked around, it was really like a really nice place and stuff. I remember the pictures. I remember the like the piano he had a baby grand piano in the house. It was like these big bay windows and stuff, and like up on the higher floors and everything. And I was like, wow, this is a great place. And then I remember seeing him walk out and I was like hey, and then it shocked me because I didn't know where I was Right. And then when I said hey, and then he looked at me and then boom, I was back in my body, right.

LaTanya:

So then when I went to Germany actually went to Germany physically on a plane, in real life, and I met up with him and stuff, and I was my uncle, was like really weird at the time, so I didn't get a chance to go into his the guy's house. He's like you better not go in his house, we don't know these strange people. And I was like, ok, fine, and the guy was so scared of my uncle, he didn't want me into his apartment. But he did like, okay, fine, and the guy was so scared of my uncle, he didn't want me into his apartment. But he did like I said, oh, I said it's so funny because I, I, I saw you in a dream and I explained it.

LaTanya:

And then he, his face got like really red. He was just like, oh my god, that's my place, he goes, I have a grand piano, that that you just described my apartment and I was like no, he goes, like that's my apartment and I I do go out and I walk out and I play the piano. At that time and I was like, no, he goes, like that's my apartment and I, I do go out and I walk out and I play the piano. At that time and I was just like it. I was like wow. I said, don't you tell me I don't have any second yeah, no kidding holy cow.

LaTanya:

He was just like laughing and he was just like he's like yeah, I'm not taking you in my house, wait, so you didn't get to go like see it in in person no, he was like. No, he was so freaked out, he was just like nah, I'm like, he's like yeah, and then he invited friends to come hang out with us because he didn't know how to handle you spooked him.

Frank:

Oh my god, oh my god. Oh my God, what a wimp.

LaTanya:

Come on, man, I really. But you know, honestly, here's the thing about this particular gift Like I would have dreams about people and the situations that they were doing, and I would like warn them. Um, a friend, oh, I hope she doesn't see this because she doesn't know who she is. Her family, um, uh uh, an ex friend, we're not friends anymore because of this situation. Actually, because she'll know who she is with her family. An ex-friend, we're not friends anymore because of this situation.

LaTanya:

Actually, I dreamed that her father, that her brother, was talking to this woman with a kid and it was just like they were surrounded by darkness and there was light immediately around them, but everything else was dark and she was standing in front of him, the kid was beside her and they were just having these secret conversations. Now, on the outskirts of the light and the darkness was her mom and on one side and her dad on another side, and then I just got a sense that there was something wrong. And that's the vision, that's what kept coming, the dream, the dream, and I kept hearing oh, she has to say these prayers, she has to do these prayers, her mom needs to go to church. She's very, she's, you know, very church-oriented, she's Catholic, she must go to church, she has to go to church. And I kept saying I am not telling my friend that I am saying my friend, you're no, no, no, no, no, cause I was just, but it just kept coming. So I finally said, look, um, let's give her a fake name.

LaTanya:

Uh, julie, julie, julie, I keep having this dream about your brother and this lady and and your mom is there and she's on the asker, she's crying and the dad is there and he's looking really angry. And I keep hearing that your mom has to go to church and say these prayers. And I don't know what's happening, but I feel like your brother should not be talking to this woman and that there's some problem. And then she tells me that, like she's, like I think you're a witch. I was like what?

LaTanya:

Oh, wow OK oh, wow, okay, he's like Tanya. My mom just found out my dad has a secret family over in another country I'm not gonna say the country because then in another country and this woman has a kid and she wants to come to America and she's been secretly talking to my brother oh man, and my no one in my. He told me he told our family he was never going to have anything to do with them and whatever. But she's been secretly talking to my brother, trying to get him to talk to my father, to get to pay for her and her son to come over and live with us in our house. And my mom is like so upset they almost divorced and she's been going to church and she doesn't know what to do.

LaTanya:

Talking to the pastor and I was just like, okay, well, in the dream she has to say these prayers and whatever.

LaTanya:

She has to do this to get this woman back, because if in what I saw is if she comes in over into your house, that's the end of your household, like everything was destroyed. She has to stay where she is, I said and your dad has to reconcile and like take care of her and still take care of you guys, because he has divided his responsibilities in the spirit realm, so now he has to do both. And she was just like I will tell my mom, I'm going to tell my mom today. She told her mom, her mom did it, and then, like the brother stopped talking to the sister, like he just, or whatever she's like, I don't know what happened, but he just stopped talking, immediately stopped talking after she started going to church and doing what you said. And then the dad just decided like he's not going to try to bring her over, he would just help her financially, and so he just started working more jobs and stuff and I was just like she goes. But how did you know? How did you know?

LaTanya:

and I was like um, because no secret is safe from latanya I was like I, I didn like I have no control over this spirit realm. Okay, what they show me, they want to show me. What they want to tell me they want to tell me and it plays out into my healing. When I do Reiki healings with people, I might have a spiritual download and I have to tell them immediately what's happening and what's going on and that helps them in the healing part.

Frank:

So hold on, let me ask you a question about that real quick, because so much of what we've spoken about wait wait really quick, I need this double interruption interception.

Lauren:

I need the. I'm just super curious. You said she's your ex friend. I needed to just like close out the drama. Oh yeah, was she like?

LaTanya:

okay, well, latanya is a witch and I can't be friends with her anymore well, she became the ex-friend because she was doing something she had no business doing with a certain guy who was about to get married to somebody else. And I told her okay, I said I, I had a dream about her going to vegas with him and his friends, with the soon-to-be not knowing but then finding out later, and then a lot of drama between the families and the household. And I told her. I told her this is what I dreamed. Don't go on that trip. I know that this is the love of your life in high school and everything, but do not go on that trip.

LaTanya:

He made a choice. He's going to choose this other woman. Doesn't matter what you do, he's always going to choose this other woman. Don't go on that trip, don't go to Vegas. And she was like how do you know? How did you know? I didn't tell anyone. It was between me and him. She's like you're just a witch, witch, witch. I can't talk to you anymore. And I was like look, I'm trying to help you. You're my friend, spirit is giving you. I'm trying to help you. Do not do this. It will be horrible, don't do it. I saw the outcome and um, and then she never talked to me, she didn't take my phone calls what a bummer and uh, I wish her well.

LaTanya:

I hope she's doing well in her life. I hope she didn't go on a trip. I don't know what happened.

Lauren:

What a shame Listen thank you for for humoring me and on that and and I'm sorry that's so like days of our lives over here once in all the I wanted to know what, why, how we got to. We're not friends anymore because she's here. She is like a lovely person investing a lot of time and energy in her dreams to provide like this has no impact on you. And then you're like I'm just delivering the information, do with it what you will and I hope you, you know, make the right choice.

Lauren:

But listen to be like, yeah, I don't know, just to be punished for anytime someone gets weird, just lie to them, say you know what?

Frank:

I can't. I can't have these spiritual uh knowings or visions if you just wear a tinfoil hat and you'll at least have one more friend, um. So what I wanted to ask you was before you continue, you're talking about how the uh? Do you describe yourself as a medium or do you just have like let me tell you I don't.

LaTanya:

Let me tell you why. Why I won't do it. Because I used to have a lot of people who would, before I even like I wouldn't even describe myself as that but they would still come to me and ask me so many things about like their personal life. Got it, um die, am I gonna get this raise? Can I get this money? It's very materialistic, right? Yeah, yeah. And I I told them I said that's not how my spirit works and they're like what do? I said that's not how my spirit works and they're like what do you mean? I said that's not how my gift works.

LaTanya:

My gift is not going to win you the lotto. It's not going to get you that man or woman. It's not going to get you that job, that promotion. What it does is it is really 100% your authentic spiritual life to help you elevate spiritually, percent your authentic spiritual life to help you elevate spiritually. So if you're going to do something that would damage your spirit or that would bind your spirit or hold it in, then my spirit is going to converse with yours and it's going to say it's going to tell my spirit exactly what it needs to be free within the house and to control the house. It doesn't exist on this claim per se. It exists at a higher level, so it's going to try to move you up to a higher level. It doesn't care about the man, it doesn't care about the female, it doesn't care about the job, unless that's going to advance you spiritually that's interesting, that you're describing it as something that like binds you to this, what like vibration or this level of spirituality.

Frank:

That's. That's a really interesting concept and yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so so the reason why I even asked about mediumship is you're talking about in a reiki session here, when something comes through like and you share it with someone to assist with their healing. Um, almost everything we've spoken about so far when you, when it comes to your intuition, is in your dreams, so how does it present to you when you're awake and actually in a session?

LaTanya:

it comes as a um just knowing, like immediately, almost like I'm that person and I've experienced it with them oh, wow or I can see, like I used to be able to feel people's pain, and then I said, okay, this is too much. I'm gonna need you to shut that down, spirit, you, you just let me know where it is. Don't don't. I don't want to feel the pain, because I have enough with my own condition. Yeah, yeah.

Frank:

Just enough to know. Just enough to know and then go away, Not to go deep into it and stuff like that.

LaTanya:

You know so.

LaTanya:

So now it's like a okay, I get a picture, like a really quick, vivid picture of where it might be or what's happening. I was just talking to a fellow client, slash someone I certified as a Reiki healer, who's going through some stuff right now and she's doing a cleansing, like her body is doing this whole. You know how it is when you become a Reiki healer, everything cleanses out, right. How it is when you become a Reiki healer, everything cleans out Right. And so she's doing a cleanse and she's like her mind is not quite in sync with the spiritual stuff that's going on because she like wants to explain it scientifically or analytically and I'm like you can't. Sometimes it is what it is, you just have to accept it and be okay with accepting it for being what it is. So she was, was she's like saying, like you know, but I just keep having this dream and this, this, I keep seeing this, this snake come into my stomach and whatever, and I was just like I said okay, so you know, she's like I don't know what that is. I said that's you, you know it's I, I it's you and she was sorry, still talking, and I was like you can't, you're not listening to me. I'm telling you right now you have to hear me. Stop talking and then she goes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What are you saying? I said my spirit is telling me what to tell you.

LaTanya:

Right now I'm hearing your spirit say it's you, you're, you're the snake that's going within yourself and on your right side there's a black hole that it's just. All this energy is coming in and out. I said so. You need to transmute the negative into a positive. With your Reiki you have to do that and then you have to seal up that hole. But before you can seal it, you have to use your Reiki to push all of that out and that snake that's coming in, it's just all the energy.

LaTanya:

That's how your spirit is manifesting and talking to you, letting you know For you snake is danger. So therefore, it's telling you that this is all negative energy coming in and and you're allowing it. And that's where your, your hole is in your body, that that part of your chakra, your solar plexus and your sacral is where you are energetically weak. So you have to build up your strength there and know that, no matter what, if there's something negative coming. It's coming from there. That's where it's going to start for you. It's different for everybody, and uh. So she was like oh my god, she's like how did you know it's the right side?

Lauren:

I said girl why are you questioning me?

Frank:

of all the things to ask, you're gonna ask that one. This is really interesting to me because, like I've heard and maybe I'm not, I mean, I do respect the practice of reiki, obviously, but like I've also heard so many people describe it as like, oh, you want to work on and develop your intuition or your, your healing abilities. Like reiki is a great place to start and you're really you're really showing me that, like, first of all, reiki is so much more a useful tool than it is just in the, in the laying on hands. Like you can do a bunch more stuff with it, which is awesome. So, like I don't know, I I think I would, next time I hear that it's just like a great starting point, I would push back a little bit and say like you can use it forever, no matter how much you develop.

Lauren:

That's exactly right. I'm in an intuitive healing mentorship program right now, a little bit more intuitive Like we're. We're diving into our intuition in this mentorship, because it's a little more than just like learning Reiki methods or whatever. It's like learning how to blend your aura with someone else's so that you can tap into your intuition and say what does this person need right now? What do you, how can I help heal you in a deeper way? It is it's not just a starting place, like Frank was saying and how you've described it, Like it can be deeply intuitive.

LaTanya:

It depends on your teacher.

Lauren:

I'm going to be honest.

LaTanya:

I'm going to put it out there and let's put it out for the world. Don't at me, people, because I am a spiritual warrior too. So don't at me. But I'm going to tell you, it depends on your teacher 100%, because everyone who's trained through me and has learned through me has gifts that I can see and I can recognize. And, with the Reiki, I teach them in the class how to enhance and integrate Reiki within to their gift and how to control it and use it and utilize it. Classes with my teachers and I was trained by the same person.

LaTanya:

I was, you know, my ranking master was with you know, william Rand, and everything and um, and even with my practitioner, julie Russell. She I certified through her and, and it was strictly healing. It was strictly healing period. But and I asked him in the class, I said, hey, you, hey, you know. I said, well, I get this pain throughout my body, I get these dreams, I get these visions and I'm like I feel like, you know, reiki is a part of it. So what's going on? And he said it. I mean, william said it himself. I don't know if he'll remember it, but he definitely said it in class. He said that you know, oh, it's just reiki integrating with your gift. And I said, okay, that's what I thought. He's like, yeah, you're right, it's just integrating with your gift. And I said, okay, good, that's all I needed to know. And so after that I just let it flow.

LaTanya:

I was like come on right in, give me everything, let's make it happen, every single gift I have, let's do it, let's use it, utilize it, and so that's how I teach that's so great oh yeah so I feel like I've met a lot of people who are reiki master teachers, who are who've been doing it for way longer than I have and they're strictly still at healing. Honestly, I'm gonna be honest, I feel like there are two. I didn't feel like there's still a practitioner getting real with latanya I do. I feel like they're.

LaTanya:

They could be at a higher level yeah yeah, but they've stuck with the method instead of allowing reiki to take over and control every aspect of their life. And we know it's only going to be great and good. And I feel like they get scared about the spiritual part. They get scared when it comes to the dreams, and then you wake up and that dream comes true. They get scared when you hear something walking in your house or a voice talking, giving you instructions and stuff. They get scared when you see like spirit orbs floating around and light splashing, little spirit orbs flashing around your clothes and everything. They're freaking out. Yeah, me. I'm like come on, can you, can you manifest into a physical form so we can have a real conversation?

Frank:

I have to keep seeing you just float on by float on by yeah, don't at me, but for people who, people who suck at Reiki, who aren't doing as much as they they can do with it, the twos of the world, the twos, the twos out there, we know who we are. What, what practices. The master twos, thank you. What, what can they, what practices can they do to like really start firing up their full, the full range of reiki intuition?

Lauren:

and by that you mean we, what can I do?

LaTanya:

dear god. I really think that that's when they have to go internal and do that, those Reiki meditations that I love doing, that I tell everyone to do, and to start talking to their spirit and saying what's my gift, what really truly is my gift? Show it to me and then let me start using it and show me how I can use it in my everyday life. And then, as they're doing this, you're using your Reiki, right, you're still doing self Reiki, using your Reiki to open up those channels of communication, and then you go with what your spirit says. A lot of those people they're not honestly, spiritually connected. They don't want to connect the two, they want to keep it separate. But you have to combine them. If you really want the full effect of everything, if you want that full gift that you've been given from the universal God of this world, then you have to combine it, because there's no such thing as separation, it's all togetherness.

Frank:

Is it just fear that's keeping them keeping that partition?

LaTanya:

It's fear, it's 100% fear. I tell them, like I said, you can't be afraid. You can't be afraid to hear the voice, you can't be afraid to hear the noise, you can't be afraid of your power and your authority in a spiritual realm, because it transmutes and transfers over into this realm and you will see the difference. You, you just will. Yeah, and whatever, whatever choice you decide whether you want to stay as a garbage man and work and do that, you're going to see the difference. If you want to run a Fortune 500 business, you're going to see the difference when you add both of those together. Because every job, everything you do, every walk of life, there's a design. It's important. If you're not doing the full effect of everything and integrating it, then you're, you're allowing other things to take over and come in and control you right right, because there are outside things.

LaTanya:

Besides all the goody goody there are, there are the negatives, there are the. There's a negative energy that manifests, there's a negative beings and creatures, and there are people who practice darkness as well as those who practice light, and they are both equally powerful.

Frank:

Right in the you know, we haven't really we haven't talked about that a lot on the show. We've like touched on it for like seconds. We've had a few people just like mention that kind of thing. We have so many people also saying like they, they don't even address the fact that there might be anything but like just love and spirit.

LaTanya:

But that's crazy, we've had yeah.

Lauren:

But also you can do yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

LaTanya:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah are people who are trying to use the gifts that we have to help people as much as we can. There's got to be people out there who are trying to do things for selfish reasons and that would elicit some other types of energy or yeah, or like negative energy can almost like manifest into like a little like just cluster, like yeah, we've learned that from from ricky, do you like? When you do your ricky practices, do you like also have to clear the room when you're done? Yeah, yeah, okay.

LaTanya:

I do. I clean the room. I've had people and this is why I say that's crazy because I've had people come to me with negative attachments. Even William Brand does negative attachments he does.

Lauren:

Yeah, it's part of the master. Oh, is it?

LaTanya:

Yeah, does it. Yeah, it's part of the master. Yeah, yeah, he. I mean and I'll I'll be honest he does it in a way that like it's very nice and gentle, because he's a nice, gentle kind of person right he's a nice gentle, his energy is that.

LaTanya:

So he does in a very nice and gentle manner and not to scare anyone. You know he always wants, like peace, tranqu, and it's a beautiful thing, you know. For me personally, though, I have seen that ugly side. So I've seen people who come in with like really like dark attachments that I can feel and I can smell sometimes, like the putridness that's attached to them. I have to. You know, it's a spiritual battle.

LaTanya:

This is when you go into, like how I was raised as a kid, with Mama, seal and stuff, where you put on your full armor which is why I say like I only use Ka Reiki now, because I feel like that's the armor you put on your full armor and you go in and you like literally have to detach and remove that entity, that energy from that person, person, and then you have to give them things they have to continue to do for a while to keep it away, because it always wants to come back, because they have to seal that area and and build up a like a shield around wherever it's coming, but also remember it'll attach to you too. So so that's where the shield comes in and you have to, like take that energy and transmute it. That's the higher level of being a reiki healer and your spirituality putting out those gifts together, understanding. You have to transmute that energy and release it to your spiritual guides and your masters in the spirit realm because they are able to take it and cleanse it for you.

Frank:

Oh, that's interesting. Okay, yeah, so I've heard I've definitely heard of Reiki being used as a like, almost like a protective barrier. I think more so at the master level. But you know, it seems like some of the some of the symbols they teach you are like would potentially be good for that kind of thing.

LaTanya:

But again, I'm still learning, so if I'm saying something stupid, please interrupt me. No, no, no, no. I mean for the symbols that they, they teach, are great like, but for kawariki you don't need symbols, okay, this is 100% a spiritual thing. That's why I love, I love kawariki. There's no symbols utilized or needed to do what you need to do and remind, remind me you developed Kavareki, right, yeah, okay, yeah, that's awesome. It is trademarked. Let me for people who are out there yeah, sorry, the law the law. She's an attorney.

Frank:

It seems like the process of developing your intuition is very much based on. Here's your entry points, here's what you. Here's your entry points to learning a practice, but then you must make it your own, and it seems like you've done that expertly with this, which is really cool.

LaTanya:

Oh, thank you, thank you.

Frank:

Just to wrap up our conversation here. You opened up your story talking about rheumatic fever.

LaTanya:

Yeah, I didn't close that up, did I? No, sorry, yeah, actually it, within the first three months of me using Reiki with my treatment, I was out of treatment.

Frank:

I have been in pain for three years now.

LaTanya:

Whenever I have a flare up, I just sit, I do a Reiki meditation and I just calm that part of my body down and accept and release that energy. And I think that's the thing you have to accept the pain first and just accept it as part of your being, a part of your body and don't fight, like so I tell my body, don't fight this pain, let's just take it and insert it and just spread it out and then just release it through our chakras and just let it go out into the universe. And and that's how I've done it, that's how I released my pain, that's how I worked it out.

Frank:

That's really interesting because, you know, I feel like usually when people have pain just to get through the day, they spend a lot of time trying to ignore it, pretend like it's not there, waiting for waiting to be distracted enough for it to go away. And I feel like we all know now that if you don't address that kind of thing, or at least feel the feelings, it gets bottled up and presents in a different way so like you're acknowledging it, accepting it and then dissipating. It is a really cool approach that clearly has worked for you.

LaTanya:

So yes, and I'd like other people to do that too.

Frank:

So, people, you start doing that for your people she says and she'll know if you haven't she'll start having dreams about you.

Lauren:

I will, I will, I'll come into your dreams. Show up at your house in your dreams.

LaTanya:

You're actually knocking on your door.

Frank:

Yeah, oh my gosh Latanya. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Lauren:

You are just a beam of sunshine.

Frank:

Where else can people find you Give us your plugs? What are you working on?

LaTanya:

Okay, so I am, of course, my website, you know, imright, reikinowcom. We'll have all my information on it. It has every class, every my up and coming stuff with the Reiki clinician course and things like that and the many different ways I can give Reiki with mommy and me, baby and me Reiki like in your house Reiki cleaning out the negative energy, all that kind of stuff. Also, of course, all my social is at. I'm Reiki now and it's not I apostrophe M people, it is I M R E I K I N O W. I'm Reiki now. One word, and pretty soon I'm working actually on my own learning center online. So I'm doing that right now where I'm going to have all the Reiki meditations and I'm going to have the courses and certifications that free to low, discounted price versus being in live, because, again, I'm following suit to get it out to everybody. So that's that's up and coming. But when it is ready it'll be on the um website and everything and that's where all the stuff for the clinician work will be too.

LaTanya:

Yeah, that's it, that's it and then you can of course buy my books. Buy my books, get all the books.

Frank:

I'm like legitimately like uh, I don't want to say impressed, because I feel like that's some kind of like reverse judgment, but like I can't believe how much you're involved in and I'm so excited for you and it's inspiring and super inspiring yeah. Super inspiring.

LaTanya:

I have no life other than ranking and work. Don't try to hold down.

Frank:

Thanks again for talking to us, and Lauren's got that spark in her eye, so I'm certain she's going to be reaching out to you yes, I do come on kai reiki for everybody. Yes, you have a good rest of your day. We'll talk to you soon thank you so much this was so much fun, thank you so much.

LaTanya:

I enjoyed every bit of it Us too.

Lauren:

Bye, us too. Thank you have a good one.

Frank:

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