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054: Authentic Spirituality // with Iva Svetliva

• Clairvoyaging • Season 1 • Episode 54

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In this episode, we welcome Iva Svetliva, a soul alignment coach and mentor who transitioned from a career in accounting to guiding others on their path to self-empowerment. Discover Eva's unique approach to authentic spiritual alignment and her journey of personal transformation, as she shares insights into embracing one's magick and personal superpowers.

The episode touches on the role of parents as influential teachers and how misunderstandings can lead to greater self-discovery. We explore the power of forgiveness in healing familial relationships and emphasize the importance of self-awareness in defining one's values. We discuss the balance between guiding children and projecting fears, highlighting the importance of recognizing parents as fallible. From emotional frequency scales to the power of authenticity, discover how to release negative emotions and find balance through body awareness. This episode is a lighthearted discussion with great insights for those seeking authentic living and emotional liberation.

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Lauren:

Hey there, friends. In this episode we talked to Eva Svetliva, a soul alignment mentor who uses her magic with a K to help people on their path to self-empowerment. I'm Lauren Leon.

Frank:

And I'm your favorite muggle.

Lauren:

And we are a married couple learning how to develop our intuition. This is episode 54 of Claire Voyaging, wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging All day, all day. That's how we play All day day. Ain't no other way? No, no, ain't no other way. What you gonna say? Hi and welcome to claire voyaging? No one asked for that a very normal show about normalizing your spiritual journey. Happy Thanksgiving If you're listening to this on Thanksgiving and Frank's 40th birthday, Guys.

Frank:

Thanksgiving and my birthday are the same day. Sometimes, this time.

Lauren:

This time, so Of all the days.

Frank:

So something to point out, yeah, something I worked out with uh gene, our daughter. Somehow, after 40 years I hadn't thought of it yet. What we both accidentally said happy frank's giving what did she come up with that? We both like, she like slurred, and I said, wait, what did you say? I'm like. Did you say I'm like, did you say Frank's giving? And she said no, but that's funny. I said, bro, that is funny.

Lauren:

That's incredible. So I'm so mad. I'm so mad that I've never said that I forgot to tell you about that. Happy Frank's giving everyone.

Frank:

No, no one needs that. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

Lauren:

All of yours.

Frank:

Every one of yours.

Lauren:

I never understood that and I don't really like it.

Frank:

Well, to you and yours it kind of implies ownership over your family, I guess, I don't know. Whatever?

Lauren:

Okay, guys, I don't have a lot of updates today. You know, sometimes I have like somebody bought us a coffee or somebody subscribed to patreon. I'm just gonna tell you, go see wicked if you haven't, because it's some like inner child healing. There's a moment that is that like reflects on inner child healing. I will say, yeah, I didn't get to see it and no, I took our daughter to see it.

Lauren:

Frank hasn't seen it yet. I've been like you have every day for the last three or four days. I've been like you have to see it because one I got our now musical theater obsessed daughter to become obsessed with wicked. I didn't like push it on her. She just she's very into it and I am too. But also I'm like she's going to be listening to the lyrics and the soundtrack and you are going to understand the entire story If you listen to the soundtrack.

Frank:

So so I'm not allowed to listen to it, but I, what I, what I am allowed to hear, what I can't escape from hearing is lauren singing just one line from one of the more popular songs over and over again, and or it'll be like one line from one song, then like two lines from a different song, and then gene is also singing a different line from another song.

Lauren:

So it's a wicked mess. But uh I, there was some crying. No one's surprised, um, but I truly felt like watching it with my daughter at the age she's at she's almost seven like it was such a magical moment and I feel like my seven-year-old self was sitting there watching it as well. So highly, highly recommend.

Frank:

Well, while the girls were out watching Wicked me and the boys, as in me and my two-year-old son just kicked it with Blippi at home. You know what I mean.

Lauren:

I thought you watched Spider-Man.

Frank:

Then we watched Blippi.

Lauren:

Okay, I mean some classics also.

Frank:

Listen, elder millennials who have children. We all have to decide what we're going to do about our children's innocence when they grow up and realize who Blippi actually is. Can we all just agree to either not talk about it or spill the beans sooner than later?

Lauren:

No, I'm sorry, Blippi will be a Blippi in time. Before we get to Eva, I just want to say one thank you if you've left a five-star review, also if you haven't. Those help us grow and they help get our podcast recommended to other people who might also like our show. So thank you in advance and also thank you in the past. We love you.

Frank:

So a quantum thank you from Lauren.

Lauren:

Yes, and now, with that rambling, we'll take you to Eva. What a breath of fresh air.

Frank:

What a nice lady.

Lauren:

Yeah, we had a great conversation with her.

Frank:

She has some gifts that you need to know about and you need to hear. Gosh, like every one of our guests, just a lesson in disguise. Yeah, she's fantastic.

Lauren:

Yeah, we had a great time talking to her.

Frank:

Such a nice time talking to her.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

We're probably going to be checking in with her time talking to her, yeah, and we are probably going to be checking in with her progress as we go.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

So yeah. So, saddle up.

Lauren:

Take it away.

Frank:

Who's taking it away?

Lauren:

You, when you click the edit, when you edit it all together and with that Frank roll it up Turkey day Circle the wagons. Isn't that about like being in a fight or something? Open the curtains. Eva, thank you so much for joining us at Claire Voyaging. We're happy to have you with us today. We're happy to have you with us today. We love to hear people's background stories of how they got to the work that they're doing now.

Iva:

So can you tell us about that? Sure? So, first off, thank you guys for having me here. Just the chat we've been having before we started recording is has been really fun and delightful to witness. Um, so I'm really excited for what's about to unfold with us three same here, um, so, uh, yeah, so I'll, I'll share.

Iva:

So I was on the path to be a cpa. I had just graduated with my master's in accounting, was studying for the CPA, and I had found a YouTuber, lior Alexandra, who talked about law of attraction and manifestation, and I was watching her videos and had started meditating. And I had a day where I was just out in nature by a lake, um, and something within me was asking me is this really the path you want to take? Like, does this really what you want to choose for yourself? And it felt it didn't feel like it was telling me like you're you're going the wrong way. It felt more like like it was really asking me, like to, and giving me the option to choose Um, and back then I had no idea what was going on.

Iva:

But now that I'm, you know more, um, aware of all the energy, spiritual stuff, I I'm like, oh, that was my soul speaking to me, um, so in that moment I realized that the path I was on was actually my father's dream for me, but it wasn't my dream for me, and so I walked away from building a career in that path, and I didn't know what exactly it was that I wanted to do. I just knew that I was, I had been exposed to Reiki, um, I had been exposed to crystals and um, so I had already kind of started the spiritual awakening process, but I wasn't, um, you know like fully immersed and I didn't yet have the resources. Um, and back then too, I feel like it wasn't as mainstream as it is now. Like I've been saying, you'd have to like drive by a house that says like psychic readings, to like discover someone who could, you know, had those kinds of gifts and and so yeah. So I didn't know what the path that I felt drawn to was going to be and what it looked like, but I just knew like something about energy and spirituality, like that's more interesting to me than all this like accounting stuff.

Iva:

However, I will say that for a while, I actually resented getting a degree in accounting, and if I could go back, I always say like I probably would have done like marketing or entrepreneurship. Um, I did do some classes in social entrepreneurship and I do blend that into my business right now. Um, but it's actually kind of unfolded beautifully because it's been able to support me financially as I am building my business. Because I so badly wanted my story to be like I left my nine to five and then spirit just helped me and then here's my business. But that's not how my story was, so I had to stick with having nine to fives for a few years.

Iva:

I just recently got released from my last job and it's really feeling like spirits, like, yeah, like we're done with that, like you're, you're going to be focusing on this now. So I'm a double entrepreneur now. I started a, I co-founded a tax and accounting business and figure, if I'm going to be doing accounting work, might as well do it with people that I want to help and, you know, have a little more flexibility. So I'm doing that to support also like spiritual entrepreneurs who, you know, not all accountants understand their nature of their business. So I feel like that kind of gives me an edge and then I'm continuing to do also my like more inner healing and soul work stuff too.

Lauren:

So that's really cool, that's great, especially like having the two combined. I feel like are super helpful because we are creatives. We don't know. There's a lot of times where Frank's like we have to do our taxes and that's on you, lauren, he's not good at math.

Frank:

Sorry, frankie.

Lauren:

No, no, it's fine but that's so helpful, I'm sure, and that's really cool that you're kind of like carving out your own space for like what you want to be and while you're chatting, you're like, oh, I didn't know what I wanted to do and you resented your skills in accounting and stuff Accounting right, yeah, accounting.

Frank:

I was like funny because the amount of people I've met in the spiritual space who, like, had such innate, powerful gifts and immediately knew that they had to get into that as their business, need people like you to help them through it, because it's not just about, like, connecting with spirit, it's definitely about like, also, I have to run a business. Yeah, and that's not always the most uh, innate thing I'm. I've helped a couple people so far. Same story, like, um, you know, I have. I I used my last being laid off from my last job to propel me into this work and I'm like, oh, I hope, I hope I'm led in the right direction and I trust in like the process and it's been a little janky along the way. And but along the way I've also met a bunch of people I'm like, wait, I can help you and I can help you and all this stuff. I want to work with people that I want to work with. So I fully understand that I love that so much. I love that so much.

Lauren:

Yeah, that's really great.

Frank:

How difficult was it for you to? I mean, you still managed to like. You didn't do a whole 180 and decide to like, ditch what, you've gotten your degrees and you're using it for good, according to you. But that period of transition when you were really second guessing and realizing that you're kind of living into your father's dream, how stressful was that for you.

Iva:

You're talking about when I decided to walk away from the CPA. Yeah, it wasn't stressful. I would say that I felt like, so I grew up as a people pleaser and say so, lauren. No, how about you, frankie? Are you? Are you in the boat with us? Uh?

Frank:

no, I was more of a like uh punk yeah, more of a of a rageful person, and I just turned inward and started wearing all black and I haven't grown out of that yet.

Lauren:

So but yeah, I, I I can relate to the people pleasing, like following a path that's like, oh wait a second, this isn't mine.

Iva:

The strongest emotion I felt at that time was I knew I was going to disappoint.

Iva:

Yeah, yeah yeah, so it was really hard to surprising. So I thought my mom, like I thought both my parents were going to be like oh my God, what are you doing? Surprisingly, my mom was actually really supportive of my decision. I think she could see that I like wanted to go do something else, and so she did support me with it. My dad still, to this day, doesn't really accept the path I've chosen and struggles with that and struggles with that. But what it's really gifted me is my parents have been some of my greatest teachers, because everything that I've moved through with them has supported me to really be like. Well, I'm really like me.

Iva:

And if you can't accept that, then like I don't know what to tell you, like that's a you problem then, yeah, I feel like you know, no matter like who comes up to me or you know cause I've had like some people be a little nasty to me on the internet.

Frank:

Um, and to me on the internet. People are so nice on the internet internet that's the place where there are no trolls yeah, in in that space, frankie, yeah, okay I guess I'll suspend my disbelief and continue with the story, whatever I I hope to one day get to the frequency.

Iva:

Supposedly, if you're on the right frequency you can get to a point where you have very minimal trolls.

Frank:

I hope to reach that one day you know, I've gotten to the point where, like, I almost want more trolls because I want to be like I'm getting to people a little bit yeah, I was gonna say like maybe that means you're, you're ruffling some feathers, but in like a good way or or or just I don't know getting engagement Right, I don't know Engagement or at least getting people to like, especially in this space.

Frank:

If you're getting people to, like you know, question their their version of reality as it is to a point where they're getting offended by it, you're giving them something to think about. No, they have the opportunity to like either be mad at your proposal of how things might be, or, like, turn inward a little bit, right when they're falling asleep and they're thinking like, maybe I'm wrong.

Lauren:

That's the sweet spot yeah, but so we, we, uh, yeah, we went on, we went off track. What were you saying?

Frank:

I took a shot of red bull before we came on here just to be awake. So I am so sorry, trolls we, we allow everything.

Lauren:

So I'm trying to remember where I was going.

Iva:

You were talking about your dad and and and your parents being teachers, your greatest teachers, and what the lessons that you've learned and because all the challenges that I've moved through with them, with feeling misunderstood, feeling unaccepted, feeling feeling like you know, really it really gave me the space to really discover myself and to be like, well, who is Eva? And then once I felt really strong in that, then it was like the test was really, you know, them meeting me and you know expressing that they didn't accept, or and then me being like, well, I still feel like this is true for me. So then that showed me confirmation that I was being myself, you know, and really had like blossomed into who I wanted to be Versus. You know, growing up as a people pleaser, you're always molding and shapeifting to what you feel like the other person needs and to appease them. So that's why the self-empowerment and authenticity are like two of the pillars for me.

Iva:

I feel like your connection to yourself is really the very foundation of your life, because if you don't know who you are, it's hard to know what your values are, what kind of lifestyle you want, and then with that comes what direction you want to go in life.

Iva:

So that has really been the greatest gift and in the last few weeks I've been doing this forgiveness practice, which I resisted for years, but I've actually internally felt like I'm ready to forgive them and me, and that has been just so profound because I don't know if either of you have moved through anything similar any listeners have as well. But it's, I think, like, especially having those struggles with like the people that you know grew up with you, you like you almost kind of I don't know if anyone has had this moment where you kind of are like you. You lived with me for 20 years like how can, how can you say that about me? You know like, you almost feel like they know like, and that you're being yourself or like accept you more. But, um, I think Ram Dass says if you think you're enlightened, go spend a week with your family.

Frank:

Oh, I like that.

Lauren:

There are certain, especially with people pleasers, and there are certain uh like personality types, or or human, if you're into human design. I know there's certain people who I have this as well a lot of people project what they think I am onto me, oh are you a line five.

Iva:

I don't know what that is yeah, you do, you get.

Frank:

You get two numbers in in I forget what I am.

Iva:

Your profile line, I think I might be Because I'm a 5'1" and I think you're describing the five.

Lauren:

That sounds familiar. I think I might be a 5'1". I have to look. I should pull up my chart, but we're both manifesting generators. But I did Actually actually my boss read that, read my profile to me, which was about people project their beliefs onto me and what they want me to be, or what they believe that I am. Yeah, I totally get that because you're like, you've like the idea of, like I I live in the same household, household as you and like you, as my parents should know that like, of course, I would follow this path. But you, you are surprised because in your mind, you've been creating this other version of me, which isn't true.

Frank:

that's it yeah there's another thing too. There's another element, and and we have, we have two young children. We have a six-year-old and a two-year-old and, um, something that I find sometimes is like if you, if you see your kid doing something that you just know might spell trouble in the future, based on your own experience, which is limited, which is the first thing you have to realize as a parent, your experience is limited to your experience you have a handful of tools at your disposal to dissuade, and those tools are not always the most healthy. One of them is going to be like the gentle guiding and still trusting them, which is, I'd say, 90% of parents don't do that Right. Another tool is to just like, come down on them and and and try to show them the fear and wrath of of God for their clearly wrong choices. Right and like.

Frank:

In some cases it's come. It comes out of a place, most cases comes out of a place of fear. That parent just wants to see the best for their child, not recognizing that instilling that fear is the worst for their child. And don't get me wrong, at bad moments I do that shit to my kids too. I'm like that's an absolutely terrible idea. And let me tell you all the things that are wrong with it. And then I'm like, oh God.

Lauren:

You have to trust your kids.

Frank:

I'm like careful, you do stuff too, but anyway don't we all.

Lauren:

Yeah, of course, parenting is very difficult.

Frank:

Yeah, and so like part of and I'm sure you discovered this through your like forgiveness stuff, but part of that is just allowing of understanding that your parents are also people and that they don't know everything, even if they, even if it's our jobs as parents to present the world as if we know everything. We're that that anchor for kids reality, right? Yeah so it's protection and fear. It's just sometimes toxic, that's all but doing those forgive.

Lauren:

The forgiveness exercises are so powerful.

Frank:

Oh man, we did that. That kicked my ass. Yeah, real rough way same, so bad.

Lauren:

Like you, it kind of like I don't know if you felt this way, but it kind of like releases a burden from yourself because you're not. You're not like holding this angst and you're just like, all right, I'm gonna just accept all of the things that happened and just release it all so that I'm not. You know, it's like the cord cutting or whatever all the things that are like energetically tying you to your, your parents or your friends or your family, like whatever it is you're. It's quite a relief to be like I don't have to hold this anymore real quick.

Frank:

I don't know if you've mentioned cord cutting before. Can you explain that?

Lauren:

oh, have we not? I guess I don't think so um are you familiar with the concept?

Frank:

yes, okay, yeah cord cutting.

Lauren:

I would explain it as, like an energetic connection that you have to a friend, a stranger, a family member, and it's, um, if you imagine a cord like between me and Frank, when you cut a cord that no longer serves you, it's something that, like, I don't need to be attached to this experience of this feeling, this negative feeling anymore and you like kind of just imagine literally cutting it with scissors or something. If you have a different way to describe it, I'd love to hear it.

Iva:

I think you described it really well. The only thing that came up as you were sharing is um, sometimes I like to invite archangel michael in oh, yeah, yeah, yeah to to be the one to cut the cord. Um, I work really closely with him, so he's kind of my my go-to. Yeah, um, that was the only thing that that came up for me as you were sharing.

Frank:

Yeah okay, let's use that. I have a question for you.

Iva:

You talked about the process of discovering who is eva and yeah I'd like to know who is eva oh my god, wow, okay, okay, you guys go really deep this is quite. This is, this is I love it.

Lauren:

Uh, surprisingly, uh, healing podcast that we did not expect. When we first started, we were like what are ghosts? And now it's like so let's get deep what?

Frank:

What is your childhood trauma? It's a real, potentially inappropriate combination of drinking a bunch of Red Bull and asking about trauma.

Lauren:

So and who are you at your core?

Iva:

Yeah, the word that always comes to me is magic, and I spell it with a K.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Iva:

Because magic with a c represents, like the illusion, magic on like stage stuff. Um, but recently, like literally within the last like two to three weeks, I got this from my um, inner being, where, because, okay, so hold on, let me give you a backstory real quick I, when I was at one of my like lowest points, I was like what am I here to do? And I was feeling very purposeless. Um, and and I've had those moments a few times, but this particular time I was like really low and I kept. I was like asking my inner being, or inner voice, or soul, or higher self, whatever people call it it's, it's all the same thing that divine essence within. I was like what am I here to do? And it just kept telling me magic, magic, magic. And I'm like, okay, but like what am I here to do? And it just kept telling me magic, magic, magic. And I'm like okay, but like what? What does that mean? And like how, how do I? Like I know what it means to me, but like how do I then translate that and share it with other people? Or what does it look like?

Iva:

Um, and then a few weeks ago, I got it's the magic of self. So it's that process of kind of. It's like coming home to yourself, yeah, to that, like to that deeper part of you that you know and and connecting to it, because we're like a whole being right, we're, we're like human and we have the spirit and we have our physical body and like the emotions that we move through, like we, we're like this whole thing, and and I always say that we don't even know what all it means to be human like it. We're still figuring that out, even though scientists will try to tell you they understand it all, but I don't believe that. So so I would say, um, I'm a human on a journey who loves to support other people to discover their magic that's all that's.

Lauren:

I would have never answered that question in that way, and I um am jealous so, yeah, that's a really yeah, it's a really well, well boiled down like beautiful statement.

Iva:

Yeah thank you. Well, now I have to turn the question around to you. So no, it's such a good question, frankie, you can't not go there oh no, oh no, you first.

Lauren:

Oh, that's Eva. I don't have these eloquent statements you really had. It was good I am. Who am I?

Frank:

Well remember when that question ended the entire podcast Good night. We made it to episode 54 or something, and that's it.

Lauren:

I am a creative healer in multiple aspects art or writing or physical healing touch. I I think that's part of that's a huge that's who I am. I'm a creative healer. I'll just it checks out. Yeah, okay yeah, I'm okay, let's, let's, let's cut that all together now.

Frank:

I'm going to make you sound amazing.

Lauren:

Let's make this sound Just kidding Me.

Frank:

Let's see here I'm a little complicated and I don't mean that in like a self-important way. I've done a lot of the work. I've talked to a lot of the people. I've pulled a lot of the work. I've talked to a lot of the people. I've pulled a lot of the tarot cards and everything says I'm a little bit of a self conflicting individual in that I like things to be, I like to stay organized and stuff, but I dislike organizations as an entity. So my personal thing is trying to help people identify their own personal powers. I guess not too unlike you, just in that, like you know, the things that you as an individual think are your weakness are probably the path to your strengths. And let's make fun of everything else along the way, because if we're here to be serious all the time, that sucks. That makes things such a an incredible bummer. So lauren is definitely more what so?

Lauren:

what's your? What does it boil down to? I just boiled it down. What do you want?

Frank:

a beautiful one-line statement, oh, okay, let's, let's, uh, let's slip into, uh, dungeons and dragons here. Now it's chaotic. Good, potentially I'm poking the bear, but I'm also saying it's fine, it's fine.

Iva:

What are your guys' astrology signs? By the way, I'm just curious.

Lauren:

We are both Sagittarius, okay.

Frank:

I am a Capricorn rising and Lauren is an Aquarius rising.

Lauren:

Yes.

Frank:

Right, yes. Thank you, you're welcome.

Iva:

I was just curious because Frankie was giving. I was thinking either Sagittarius or Scorpio vibes for Frankie. He's a little.

Frank:

In some charts I could be cusp.

Lauren:

His birthday is November 28th. Everyone sent him a gift. He's turning 40 download the podcast.

Iva:

That's good um, what are you? I'm an aquarius sun, an aries moon and a virgo rising okay, the virgo is the accounting.

Frank:

It's also like you're very chill in a way that I think so, in a way that I'm very jealous of. You're very calming, and I noticed that at first, and then you're telling me all this stuff about having, like you know, second guess your entire like field of work, and I'm like what you seem like you had it figured out, you, you give oh, now I do yeah yeah, I, I definitely feel like more grounded and aligned than I have ever in my life right now.

Iva:

Yeah, but it it took like the. It was like a whole process. It was not an overnight thing yeah, yeah yeah well what did you say? Aquarius, sun fun yeah, so I like anything that's uh unique, and I'm visionary and I'm all for unity. That's how I describe Aquarius.

Frank:

Eva. Um, I wanted to know what cause you're on the spiritual journey of the spiritual path, as far as, like, intuitive abilities go. Um, do you have any clues to what, like your, your superpower might be or like what you're hoping to like, grow into?

Iva:

Okay, so two things come up as you ask that. The first is so I am really connected to people's emotions. So in my human design, my solar plexus is open and I think it's undefined. Actually, I think I do have some gates, so it's not completely open but I can really feel emotion, like to the point where I remember going to like movie theaters and I would be like crying when I'm like happy or sad tears.

Iva:

But at some point I realized I think I'm like feeling more than just my stuff, like I felt like I was feeling the whole room and, um, now it's, this is like a point of like laughter for my boyfriend, because we'll be watching a movie and there will be, like you know, an emotional or or something like a really sweet moment and I'll just start tearing up. Like you know, it just happens. And I turned to him I'm like are you crying? And he's like no. But you know, and growing up that was something that I was told like why are you crying? Like you're too sensitive, you need to have thicker skin. And now I'm like I'm so glad I didn't listen to that, because the way I can feel people's emotions is truly a superpower in my eyes, as people share things, I can feel when things come up without them even saying a word, like I can feel it you're you're an empath, which is, yes, part of the.

Lauren:

There's a little bit of the. The people pleaser in us, kind of like, makes us empathic because we're so aware of what other people need and what other people want. I'm just saying I am very similar. Our listeners have heard me cry multiple times because I'm hearing someone's story and I'm so in it with them or feeling like what they must have felt at that moment or whatever. I just I cry a lot and it's a, it is, it is a superpower, like. I felt very embarrassed by it when I was a kid. I had I grew up with two older brothers so they were like make fun of big emotions which it sounds like maybe your, your parents, were in a similar like, like you said, don't, don't feel that, don't, don't cry so much, or whatever. But yeah, at some point I just started embracing it. I'm like it's okay, I'm feeling this right now. I love that.

Frank:

I feel like I just started embracing that concept for myself Because same thing like too emotional, too sensitive when I was younger and, more than anything, this is probably why I am the way I am now. I like at some point got tired of feeling that way not feeling that way, but like hearing that. So I started. I started not just resenting the emotions themselves, but also resenting the labeling of it and just wanting to be left alone. I just want to be left alone.

Frank:

So then it literally was not until like maybe this past month, where I'm like, oh, holy shit, wait a minute Like I've been trying to suppress these sensitivities and this might be like part of my thing and I was just going at it the wrong, at the wrong angle. And now being like more using those sensitivities as a tool has opened up a whole thing for me recently that honestly has given me a little bit more like, but lust for life, yeah, yeah, and it's a yeah. I think growing into that could be a huge thing for anybody. I'm still very much in the middle of that realization, so I don't I have nothing else to say except for whoa, I am sensitive and that's not so bad, but when I?

Lauren:

watch stuff and I'm crying. I still feel embarrassed sometimes, even though Frank is like fully so used to it. But sometimes I'll look over at you like you're crying. It's so beautiful. Like you know, happy or sad.

Iva:

Well, that's, that's like the old patterning right Of constantly being shamed or called out for expressing in that way, um. I was listening to one podcast where they were talking about and I could send this to you guys um later if you're interested Um, but it was the heal thyself podcast by Dr G love him for anything like like holistic health, um, and they were talking about how women a lot of times struggle with expressing anger. So it's really easy for us to express our sadness and cry, but when you actually do deeper healing, there's actually anger underneath that got suppressed. And for men it's usually the opposite, where the anger was okay, you know, because then that was seen as like being a man and right, you know, and but then the sadness and the grief was suppressed and not okay to express.

Iva:

Um, and and I do like in my sessions, and one of the ways I love supporting people is showing them how to process the emotion, because emotions actually just need 90 seconds to fully process, if you allow it. But what happens is we start to create a story in our head about it, is we start to create a story in our head about it and then every time we think about it, we're like reactivating the emotion in the body and it just keeps like accumulating, you know, but if we just allowed ourselves to just process it, what Frankie was talking about, the groundedness I think that he's like feeling that's coming across, is all of that work that I've done to release this, like clear out the stuff and then, um, like be really intentional with my energy and I'm happy to do a demo with you guys if you want. I love sharing this practice with everyone.

Lauren:

Oh, yeah, yeah, what is the practice? Yeah, what is the practice, absolutely wait.

Frank:

Can I say one thing real quick? Sure, the. I think that's another thing that I wish I remembered. I hear so many things and I forget where they came from.

Frank:

So I don't want to take credit for this, but recently heard about like just the idea of like it was someone who we're talking to, the narrative that we build around our emotions creates this block and like things can't get through it Right, and over time that block becomes a dam and it becomes a big ass problem that you have to then like sort through when, if you just handle it in the moment, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. And then like also the letting, like, if you do experience an emotion that's making you feel uncomfortable, letting it flow through you and like it sounds like what you're saying letting that process in the moment to prevent a dam, a buildup that then will cause, at a certain point, a chakra blockage that could technically give you technically, future science, technically give you an actual like ability to manifest a physical ailment surrounding that, that stuff which I'm so good at making myself sick, but I'm getting much better at at this.

Iva:

So please, please, take us on a journey right now okay, um well, do you guys want me to do like each of you, or do you want to journey together? I, I usually do one-on-one, but I'm getting better at doing more than I want to see. Frank, no, no no, no on.

Lauren:

Hold on, mr. I block my emotions and I'm good at creating sicknesses in my body.

Frank:

Stand by. I just said how much better I am at this now.

Lauren:

Yeah Well, I don't want to prove it.

Frank:

I'm looking, I'm hunting for good content and I want to make Ellen shoot a cry. So, whatever you want to flip a coin, no, I just want you to do it. Okay, fine, I'll do it. That's the coin. My wife says happy wife, happy life.

Iva:

You know so I want you to bring it to your mind a situation or a person you know it doesn't matter, but something that feels pretty fresh emotionally that you want to release, and let me know once you have that sorry, like an emotion that, like a negative emotion that I had recently, or yeah, so like, are you guys familiar with the emotional frequency scale?

Iva:

no, and I can't wait to hear about it oh, so they can measure the actual frequency of emotions. And when people say, like you're manifesting, that's actually how you're drawing that to like oh, like you're in this like one frequency, but in reality we're probably like like this, you know like throughout our whole day.

Iva:

So but the basically, you know, they've measured and more recently it's come out that authenticity it used to be believed love was the highest frequency, but now they're saying that authenticity is actually the highest frequency. My theory with that is, if you're living authentically, you're more connected to your divine self, and so that's like the highest. And I think why love was like the highest vibration before is because unconditional love is also part of that lesson.

Frank:

Oh, I like that.

Lauren:

Yeah, that's great.

Frank:

Yeah, it feels like authenticity is a better definition of that feeling.

Iva:

Yeah.

Frank:

Because if you're feeling authentic, living into your own authenticity, and you see someone who isn't living into theirs, like you, it's hard not to feel a certain amount of compassion for the difficulty they're going through yeah that's a. That's a pretty high frequency, you know. So, okay, all right. So I'm supposed to think of something that made me feel shitty, uh yeah was it me?

Iva:

no, am I to express this out loud if you're comfortable, if whatever you're comfortable with I can't call anybody out um but you don't have to to share if you don't want, because we're gonna work more with the sensation of it in your body and so that's like the the key to releasing. So the actual story doesn't matter, which is ironic because as humans we get so caught up in the story, like that's what we want to go and tell everyone is like how badly we were hurt or upset by this person or this thing. But really, when you are able to tune into it as a sensation, you strip away the story and then you're able to actually release it on the energetic level and with your body.

Iva:

So okay.

Frank:

I thought of a good way to share. I want the story had someone recently try to use an insecurity that, uh, that I have about myself for their own personal gain. I saw I was. I was, uh, an attempted. They used my personal like weakness as an exploitation for their benefit. I don't know, and how did that make you feel?

Frank:

That made me feel very. It was. It's almost like I almost felt like suppressed or backed into a corner in a way, where I wanted to like suddenly defend myself. Right, you don't want that kind of stuff to be true, you're already working against your own insecurities, Right? So, like I wanted to like kind of lash out a little bit, but I didn't, but I wanted to, and that made me like immediately resentful of that individual, because it seemed like a game was attempted to be. They were attempting to play a game using me, but I was onto it and you know, when you're smarter than someone else's con, it's like what are you trying to do right now?

Iva:

So, yeah, yeah, does that explain? Does that explain enough? So you shared, um, you felt kind of trapped or like backed in to a corner and then resentful Are those the two?

Frank:

Yeah, and then I will also say that it like makes me backtrack and think about how I feel about myself, like it was like, oh, someone else is noticing this, is it true. Is what the bad thing I feel and think about myself Like it was like, oh, someone else is noticing this, is it true? Is what the bad thing I feel and think about myself? Is that true? Because now someone else is using it against me? Like is it that obvious that I have this insecurity?

Iva:

Okay, so, um. So then the third one it sounded like is um, almost like uh. Uh. It sounded like is um, almost like a, uh, like a questioning, if it's true? Like, do I believe that? Is that really me right? Okay, so hold on, I'm just tuning into which one to start with. Let's start with the resentment. So tuning into your body. Have you done this before?

Frank:

no, like body scan or tuning into your body oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of just seeing where that emotions rest, kind of yes, yeah, okay.

Iva:

So where do you feel like the resentment is?

Frank:

this is funny because this is similar to what we did with Michelle.

Lauren:

Sort of yeah.

Frank:

In a way, and, like I just realized, it's the same spot. It's solar plexus for me, yeah.

Iva:

Okay, so now? And does it feel like it has like a shape or a texture? There's no wrong answer.

Frank:

Yeah, Lauren always tries to get me to get my emotions into shapes too, and I'm not great at it, but in this case I do feel um it doesn't have to be a shape, it could be like a texture. I haven't had anybody asked me that before. It feels like Ripley almost. Ripley Like uh, oh, like if you dragged your fingers over a computer keyboard which is weird.

Iva:

Okay, yeah, that visual is helpful. Okay, so do you have a sense of like about how big it is in your solar plexus? Is it like encompassing the whole chakra? Does it expand out? It's kind of just there yeah like just about as big as the chakra and maybe like just slightly into my, my, my heart a little bit okay, okay. So so connecting it's kind of like a bridge, like connecting both of them.

Frank:

Yeah.

Iva:

Okay. So now all you're going to do it's really simple practice You're going to just focus your whole awareness on that resentment, that ripply part from your solar plexus to your heart chakra, and then you're just going to bring the breath into it so as you inhale, if you're visual, you can kind of envision the breath flowing down to that area, and if you're more like kinetic or kinesthetic, whatever that word- is feeling the breath flowing down, but all you're going to do is just focus on that, that whole area, and just breathe, breathing in, breathing into it.

Iva:

That's all you're going to do.

Frank:

I can actually feel that dissipating. Yeah, it's funny, cause I wasn't feeling it in this moment until we started talking about it, and then I emotionally remembered that moment and started feeling it again, and now it's like just breathing through it is clearing it.

Iva:

And you can use other elements too If you feel called to use, like fire or water. I just always start with the breath because it's just so it's easily accessible, but can you continue breathing into it until you feel like it's just so it's easily accessible, but can you? Can you continue um breathing into it until you feel like it's cleared? Because everyone this happens every time when I guide someone through this the first time they always want to stop before, like we're it's fully cleared. I'm like no, like we gotta squeeze all the orange juice out, like halfway yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna mute.

Iva:

So no, here's me mouth breathing yeah, taking your time and just breathing into it or using whatever element, and with the exhale too. I don't know if I described this, but the exhale is is the releasing of it, but your awareness, like bringing the awareness to the sensation in the body, is what's helping it kind of get unstuck.

Frank:

That's a very interesting way to put it, because it does feel like an unstucking.

Lauren:

Unstucking.

Frank:

I'm unstucking myself.

Iva:

This is a great practice too, to like support your kids too, like when they they feel like emotions and, um, when they're feeling emotionally activated the thing I've been learning because I'm not a human mom. I do have a younger sister who we're 13 years apart, so I kind of was like her, her mom, pretty much growing up but um, but I'm like preparing.

Iva:

I'm an aspiring mother and I have two fur babies. We've got two dogs. Um, but the like, you regulating yourself and being that in the moment when your, your kids, are emotionally activated, I've learned that that's like the best thing we can really do.

Lauren:

Um yeah, when I talk, when I talk, one of our kids through like a big meltdown and I show them what to do with like let's take some deep breaths and I do it myself, it helps me be a better support for them too, because I'm not like stop it, you know yeah, you get, not to call you out on the show, but you get real if things are too chaotic and the kids are being wild, because kids are wild sometimes all the time go ahead you get worked up.

Frank:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you get really worked up, yeah.

Lauren:

If I keep myself in check, everybody's, everybody's calmer. But yeah, this is empath in me starts going.

Frank:

So this is funny, though, too, because what Eva just demonstrated is that you think, in the moment, you just have to hold onto that discomfort and process it later. You just got to get through the moment and hold on tight. And hold on tight when, like, it only takes a few seconds to do what we just did, and like is it unstuck? Oh, I feel completely unstuck. Yeah, no, that was a very helpful.

Lauren:

Did you squeeze out all the orange?

Frank:

The orange juice is is empty or full, I don't know, and so now here's the test.

Iva:

Though, because you mentioned hold on, let's check in real quick.

Frank:

Frankie.

Iva:

You mentioned. We started with the resentment, but there was like the backing up in the wall, like the feeling kind of cornered sensation. Is that still present or has that also released with the resentment?

Frank:

I think when I initially, when I worked through that, I just felt like a complete, like opening, so that feeling of being backed up and like locked into a corner or like a very particular I guess it's being labeled, I don't know, like um, for lack of better terms, after a certain amount of breathing I realized it felt like I didn't give a shit what anybody thought, which is a great default for me. Um, so, yeah, like I, I have to say like it's, it's, it's dissipated in this moment. Now I'm trying to like I can recall the feeling of feeling that way, but it's not how I feel in the moment. Yeah, so I think that is such a simple exercise.

Iva:

Yeah. So the test then is you bring up the situation in your head again. And now, how are you feeling about it?

Frank:

I'm feeling a little bit more empowered in this situation, where it yeah, it doesn't affect me in that way and actually there's like zero solar plexus sensation whatsoever.

Lauren:

So how's the ripply keyboard?

Frank:

I don't even know what you're talking about.

Iva:

It's gone, it's gone.

Frank:

He squeezed all the orange juice out. We haven't done this particular exercise before. It really is just giving yourself time to feel it.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

And I didn't even think like this was just a random part of my day. I didn't think this was something I was going to like process later and I chose something that had, like you know, relatively low stakes, but still like I had emotions on it that I was holding on to and no longer.

Lauren:

Hey.

Frank:

Hey, it feels like you're very much like on a journey, too, of you've done so much work already for yourself in terms of like spiritual development and like finding your authenticity, and you've built it into your daily life, which is the hard part, right? I always say like you've built it into your daily life, which is the hard part, right. I always say, like you can, you can develop spirituality in isolation, and but everything gets really shitty the second you you try to like plug it into daily life. Right, I used to.

Frank:

I'm an, I'm a, I'm a post, I'm a recovering Catholic. That's how I grew up and I immediately, just looking for something else to fill that void, jumped into Buddhism and I really liked Buddhism. But like the culture and like the culture and practices of Buddhism. When you also have to go like have a nine to five job was like I can't balance these two things. This is so bizarre. You're doing an incredible job of like really finding the sweet spot and like making it work and not in like a weird way where it's like this is the exception. You're like really showing people that you can do this. You're taking your practical skills and your spiritual skills and blending them and that's a beautiful thing.

Iva:

Thanks.

Frank:

No, thank you.

Iva:

I call what we're talking about right now this is the second time it's come up grounded spirituality Because, to be really honest with you guys, when I first started this journey, I was like because I have a lot of air energy in my natal chart and so in the beginning I was like really like up in the clouds. And then I think that's why, like it was so hard, like marketing for my business, because I was using all this language that like to me it made sense, but then like it wasn't grounded, so it wasn't like really connecting to people and and and then I was like but I want to be unique and I want like to use the words I want to use and they're like what are you saying, what are you talking?

Iva:

about yeah, and then they were like if people are confused they're not gonna buy, like I can't tell you how many people told me that, and that's kind of what I feel like I'm in right now is like the you know the tax and accounting business and then like the spiritual healing business.

Lauren:

And like together, like that blend, have a client. What do they come to you for?

Iva:

Okay, so the best way I can describe it is I'm a life coach, even though I don't like that term.

Frank:

It's okay.

Iva:

It's just, everyone uses it and I want a unique term. So I call myself a soul alignment mentor because ultimately, I'm connecting you to that divine. We didn't do it in the demo. I'm happy to come back and do that Great.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Iva:

It'll be Lauren's turn.

Lauren:

Yes. Soul alignment practice. Yes, please yeah, soul alignment practice.

Iva:

Yes, please so, but like the soul alignment, because it it's like that foundation piece, right like to the authenticity, to like who you are, so you know, like what's your north star. Once you're clear on like who you are, um, a lot of people will come to me. We've done like energy work and soul alignment stuff on money, on conscious parenting, on entrepreneurship and business. Usually it's anything that you're feeling stuck in that you really need clarity on. I like to say that I don't have the answers for you, but you do have the answers and I'm happy to help you get there and discover them.

Iva:

Yeah, um, in the beginning of my journey, I, like, when I was first developing my intuitive abilities, I was doing more like sessions where it would be like, oh, like this is what your like spirit guides are saying or this is the message that's coming through. And then, after doing that for a bit and after doing Reiki sessions for a bit, and animal communication, I discovered there was like something that wasn't feeling right, like it felt like there was something missing, it felt like it wasn't quite where I was supposed to land, and so I just kept going, I kept exploring, um, and then I discovered this type of work and I was like, this is really cool, like this could help so many people, like, and and so then, um, it went from like me being the middleman to like okay, how can I empower you to have these tools and to be able to connect yourself, because ultimately that's going to support you with going out and fishing for yourself and having something to eat. So, like that, that's kind of like my mentality. I actually had a? Um, a client earlier today, um, bringing up, you know, like, oh, like, like some self-doubt about, like connecting to her intuition. Um, and I was like, and then she was asking me like can we connect to your spirit guides? Like can you ask your team and stuff? And I just said, you know, are you open to exploring the self-doubt? Because if we can help you with that, then that's going to help you get that stronger connection and that trust to yourself and that's going to support you more long term to yourself and that's going to support you more long-term.

Iva:

So I really try to like encourage and support clients with that self-empowerment piece and like really walking them kind of through that and and like just being there to support along the way, cause I know it's when you're first learning it, you know like you're, you're like oh, like I kind of want, I want to make sure I get it right. But it's not about that. It's about like the connection to yourself and, um, when you're talking about the Buddhism, so I actually um, I don't have like a religion or particular practice. I I like like like religious practice that I follow. I listen to them all, like it's usually like the more like spiritual, esoteric, mystical ones, like the Jewish Kabbalah and and Buddhism and um, but I'll listen to them all and then just kind of take whatever resonates.

Iva:

And also I like to say too that, like nature is my religion. I just connect to mother nature, discovering your spirituality, like what that looks like, because that is so unique to each person. Right, one size fits all, but it's not, and life's not, a one size fits all. So how could we think that like something like spirituality is, um, I, I'm like stepping into that more where there's more people like expressing that, like there there was a woman who had um, walked away from her religion and then was like I feel, really feel really lost, like I don't know what to even believe or you know where to go. So, yeah, I'm happy to support with that kind of stuff as well, because my core message is that I want you to live your life your unique way. So, whatever that looks like, whatever success looks like, whatever the lifestyle that you're wanting to design looks like, and then whoever you are at your core, like, let's bring that out so that that's in all areas. Did that answer your question?

Frank:

Yeah, it's also beautiful.

Iva:

Yeah, that's so nice.

Frank:

That's so cool yeah.

Iva:

Thank you. I've been talking about all this for a while, so you guys are like, oh, wow, like you say it so well, but like I've been, and I've been like thinking and refining too throughout the years, so it's not. This is not how I would have said it like three years ago.

Frank:

Just so you know oh, I'm sure, yeah, no, that's. But you've done the work and you know how to do this and it's so cool. I don't think you could possibly say it better than you the way you are, I guess. On that note, where can people find you?

Iva:

Yeah, they can find me mainly on Tik TOK. I'm also building out my um. Youtube. Um. I've got a lot of ideas of videos, so come hang out with me there. Um, and then also instagram. My username is the same on all platforms, so it's eight and then the. The business name's that leva eight, um, and we're connected on there. Yes, yeah, through instagram, and I can send you any links. I'll put all the links in our in the show notes.

Lauren:

Yeah, thank you so much for talking with us, eva. You have been awesome and you just have this beautiful spirit and glow about you, so thank you for joining us.

Frank:

Yeah.

Iva:

Thank you so much, Lauren and Frankie.

Frank:

And please stay in touch and let's get some updates as soon as we can. I want to hear how the biz is going. I want to hear all of it.

Lauren:

You might hear from us for some accounting help at some point.

Iva:

I was just going to say if you guys need help, I'm your girl.

Frank:

Now you know.

Lauren:

Careful, Alright. Thank you, Eva.

Frank:

We'll talk to you soon. Have a great one. Talk to you soon, we'll talk to you soon.

Lauren:

Thank you, have a great one. Talk to you soon, you as well. Take care, you too.

Frank:

Bye-bye. Thank you for listening. Visit wwwclairvoyagingcom for show notes, merch, or just to say hi. If you'd like to support our journey, visit wwwbuymeacoffeecom. Backslash clairvoyaging. This has been a production of Wayfeather Media.

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