
Clairvoyaging
Normalize Your Spiritual Journey!
After a close family member experienced an undeniably psychic event that shocked believers and skeptics alike, Lauren and Frank (an open-minded but naturally skeptical married couple from the suburbs of California) decided that it was time to learn more about things that can't be easily explained.
Lauren and Frank Leon interview experts about the esoteric sciences. Through spiritual growth and trauma healing, they attempt to enhance their intuition and unlock their psychic abilities. They'll ask the stupid questions you've always wanted the answers to.
Clairvoyaging offers a glimpse into the couple's exploration of diverse esoteric subjects, with warmth, humor, and genuine curiosity, Lauren and Frank navigate these intricate domains, inviting experts and practitioners to share their insights, experiences, and wisdom.
Each episode explores the expertise of their guest. Topics include the vast spectrum of psychic abilities, mediumship, energy healing, divination, tarot, spirit communication, astral projection, remote viewing, auras, past lives, dream interpretation, intuitive awakening, spiritual empowerment, and channeling messages from guides and higher consciousness.
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Clairvoyaging
055: Moon Manifestations & the Power of Movement // with Jessica Diana
Join us for an illuminating conversation with Jessica Diana, a gifted Reiki master, psychic medium, and women's embodiment guide, who shares her incredible journey of embracing her intuitive abilities. Jessica opens up about the profound experiences that shaped her path, from childhood encounters with angels to navigating the challenges of fibromyalgia and career transitions.
From the transformative power of dance and sound healing to the guiding presence of spirit animals and loved ones who have passed on, our conversation explores the rich tapestry of spiritual integration. We reflect on how cultural heritage and personal history intertwine with modern spiritual practices, highlighting the ongoing journey of rediscovering ancestral wisdom amid contemporary life.
Our episode concludes with a focus on the cyclical nature of moon phases and their role in manifestation. By blending the energies of the moon with practices like Reiki and yoga, Jessica crafts unique healing experiences that support emotional release and personal breakthroughs. We share the magic of lunar retreats and the significance of aligning with astrological events, offering listeners a glimpse into the powerful impact these practices can have on one's spiritual journey. Jessica's dedication to spiritual growth and her inspiring story of transformation offer a compelling testament to the joy found in embracing one's spiritual path.
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Hello, in this episode we talk to Jessica Diana, a Reiki master, psychic medium and women's embodiment guide. She helps clear energy blockages to get you on your path to manifestation. She's also a friend of mine from my Reiki mentorship group. I'm Lauren Leon.
Frank:And now she's a friend of mine too.
Lauren:That's Frank, and we are a married couple learning how to develop our own intuition. And this is episode 55 of Claire Voyaging. Wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging.
Frank:What's up?
Lauren:Howdy partners.
Frank:How's it going? Hey, hope you're doing good.
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Frank:Yeah, also, you know what we had a lot of new listeners this month, uh, so if you're new to the show, welcome welcome, this is the show. Here we are and, uh, you know, I really would recommend starting from the beginning, but if you don't, it's okay, just just hop on board welcome and have a great, have a great listen. Much like life. There's no right way to do it.
Lauren:No, they'll try to tell you, but.
Frank:They always do. It doesn't work, they're always wrong.
Lauren:Okay, so let's get to Jessica. She. I adore her. I've known her since this entire. She's been around for this whole journey of this podcast. She's been around for this whole journey of this podcast. We started this podcast right before I went into my Reiki training, which she was in that class. Then she was in my Reiki masterclass and she's in my intuitive development mentorship group, which is a year long. So I've been watching her progress over the last year. She's been watching me and we are partnered up a lot and it's really cool. Also, she sent me a little note after our interview and she was like I forgot to mention that I manifested being on your show. She said she was looking at some of our videos on Instagram and she got a download. She heard a voice say they're going to ask you to be on their show, so be ready. And then the next day I was like hey, do you want to be on our Claire Voyaging podcast?
Frank:And she was like yes, I called this in and she was ready. She was, yeah, she is so she's so cool, like you know, I've heard about her but like instant friends as soon as we met. She's a cool gal.
Lauren:Yeah, she's doing really really cool stuff.
Frank:And she's put in the work, the development work. So there's a lot to. I picked your brain about a lot of it. Yeah, it's a very fun conversation.
Lauren:Yeah, so let's get to it.
Frank:All right.
Lauren:Take it away, roll it Roll it up Circle the wagons. Circle, the wagons, arts and stars. Jessica, thank you so much for joining us on Clear Voyaging let's. I want to hear from you and how like, because it's been really fun to watch your transition, your development, since I've known you for the last year. But I want to hear about before that and what brought you into learning Reiki and all of that.
Jessica:Where do we start? Do we have the time?
Lauren:Just a small question. You know a little question. Who are you Tell?
Jessica:me everything Well. Thank you guys for having me here. I'm super excited to talk about all things. Nothing's off the table here.
Lauren:All right.
Jessica:So I probably remember my first gifts, I would say, when I was like around five years old. I remember talking to people or seeing things. I saw a lot of angels which I still do. I think that's like my divinity connection is mainly with angels and had a lot of manifestation and like abundance, cold at that age. I remember that very clearly and I would always have like this reoccurring dream of my mother. My mother passed away about eight years ago, but I kind of knew that she would pass away not in like her super old age but like she was in her 50s, because I would always have this dream of her, like I would be sitting in a bench at five years old.
Jessica:I would have this dream and I would see her floating in front of me as an angel no uh, yeah so I kind of, and it was like happened for years and years until I was older and I kind of knew my mom was like gonna be my angel as well, which she is.
Lauren:I have chills already, okay yeah, yeah, um.
Jessica:So it started back then, but then I think nobody in my mother's side of the family because my parents were divorced were really kind of into that stuff. So I really didn't have a way to talk about it and I think when you're that young you don't really understand what's going on or what's real and what's not, and like what's okay to talk about. So I kind of just like put it in the closet and then every so often, you know, it would pop through and I would say in my early 20s I was living with my best friend and we had moved into this apartment and every time I was there by myself the doorbell would ring and I'm like I would go downstairs open the door. I was like nobody at the door and our doorbell never worked. Like the landlord told us, like the doorbell doesn't work, I'm like okay. So then I had met this friend through a friend and she was kind of into this stuff. So she was like listen, there's probably people knocking on your door to talk to you because you have some sort of light. And I didn't really understand a lot of it and I was just like she's like here are ways to protect yourself, and I just did a lot of protection stuff, um, and then, like it would. So I kind of knew I've always had gifts and then, as I got more into like my late 20s and early 30s, I started to develop them and understand them a little bit more, but not to the capacity of like what we've done this past year, yeah, um.
Jessica:So what got me to going into Reiki, I would say say is so three years ago I was diagnosed with a chronic illness and was like I can't, like I'm the type of person that tries to do everything as natural as possible and tries to get to like the root of actually what's going on. So at that time I was like I need to find out what's going on. So what I have is a chronic illness, is called fibromyalgia. It's when your nervous system and the part in your brain, your amygdala, gets stuck in fight or flight. So it always thinks that there's a tiger in the room, like okay, this is all stress related.
Jessica:And I've always done like project management, event management, like that's kind of been my career and been very like solution driven and I'm always that friend that everybody comes to to talk to about things and like I'm a vole and like I'm kind of like can tell people what's going on. I have dreams that come through and I'll share them. So, like it's interesting Cause I was just like like all right, what is going on with my nervous system? I started to learn that like while I am solution driven, my body was remembering all my traumas and stuff like that, wow yeah um.
Jessica:So while I was in this last job and my corporate job, I would say before I transitioned into this work, I was doing diversity work. I shifted during the pandemic from events director into more DEI focused work because I'm very passionate about working with all sorts of kind of marginalized communities, and during that time it got, I got more sick and I was really, really bad. So March 2023, like I started to get like really bad pain my brain like I was just forgetting so many things and like so around, like May or June, I told my husband I was like I've never not worked since I was 15 years old. I'm 43.
Jessica:So I've been like working all the time. I went to school full-time in college and worked full-time. So I've always just kind of been in that like hustle, like I need to work kind of culture and I was just like I need to take four months off, I need to leave this job and I need to take four months off of work and I need to focus on my health because it's not getting any better. I was doing a lot of mindfulness stuff to try to work with it, because that's what I know I've been meditating for 20 years and using like all these different beautiful things that I know. But it still wasn't doing the trick. So I was like I know I need to just save up some money and stop working and just focus on my health.
Lauren:So was there something specific with the four months?
Jessica:I don't know.
Lauren:I don't know why I said four months.
Jessica:I figured because I was like well, I can save enough money for like three or four months.
Lauren:OK, OK I start planning now.
Jessica:Yeah, so I was like I'm going to quit my job in November is what I told my husband. And then, like six weeks later, like my, my role got dissolved and they're like here's three months severance, here's three months of insurance, literally. So I was like manifesting this and I was just like they're like or you know, you can do something else if you want. I was like no, no, like they didn't know all this right, like they knew I had a health, a chronic health issue, but they didn't know that I wanted to leave or anything like that already. So I was just like yes, give it to me, I'm taking it, I'm out of here.
Jessica:Yeah, so during that time I was also planning to go to a retreat. At the end of August I got. My last day of work was August 3rd. This retreat was happening at the end of August and I went to this retreat and that is what really opened up a lot for me. And it's interesting because I was like the first three or four months I just don't want to do anything. So when our training came up was like October. So I was like out of August, september, october. So I was like, okay, like I'll do something, like dabble, but it started really to kind of about my health. It didn't start to help others, it started to just like have another way to help me in my health.
Lauren:Yeah.
Jessica:And during those attunements and placements, as you probably experienced or I don't know if we've ever spoken about this, but I, you know I got so many downloads and one of them was like this is not something that you're going to keep to yourself, this is something that you need to share with others of like now moving into like this architect, healer and mentorship and abundance codes and manifestation, and kind of like using all the gifts that I get. So so, yeah, that's a long winded answer, but that's how you know. I kind of got here.
Lauren:Yeah, I mean that's such a, that's such an interesting path and also, like so guided, I feel like I mean I was asking like what, what? You know what's what's up with four months specifically. But it's so funny that they gave you like here's the three months severance, here's three months of insurance. Like you called all of that in, you brought all of that in.
Frank:You brought all of that in it also seems to have like occurred right as you needed it.
Lauren:Yeah.
Frank:Which is so cool, and the fact that, like you are so intuitive, like you're getting the answers that you need when, when, when you need them there's not. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of waiting for you to see what's next, like you kind of have like your focus point and you move forward, maybe for you to see what's next like you kind of have like your focus point, you move forward.
Lauren:Maybe that's the solution oriented. You know part of your, your brain that just sees that, yeah, but that's so, that's so cool. Okay, jessica is very intuitive. We have been, we have been put together as like practice partners several times and we're like, okay, well, we're supposed to work on you know, we're supposed to work on, you know we're supposed to take like 15 minutes each or whatever to like work on this new intuition thing and I'm like intuition thing is a very low. Okay, our, our, so it's everybody.
Frank:It's time to practice your intuition thing.
Lauren:We're like in class on zoom and our mentor is like here's a new tool for your intuitive healing toolkit and it's like you know, use your own body as a kind of a map to feel what the other person might be feeling or whatever. Or we've done other like you know, just kind of listen to your intuition and see what the other person needs. And every time I'm with you I'm like I'm kind of, you know, in guessing not guessing, but like doubting myself a little bit, but you're like always right on. She's just like I'm kind of feeling like you're having this and maybe a little bit of this, and I'm like, yes, oh my God, so you are super intuitive.
Jessica:And then also but I also got to say I always tell her like you always doubt yourself, but you're actually more intuitive than what you give yourself credit for, because she's really good too.
Lauren:Yeah, you do tell me that and I appreciate it. I, I I'm working on my the confidence to be like, yeah, I'm pretty, not just I'm pretty sure but but are you having that?
Frank:I always tell lauren how like intuitive she is and it just so happens that I know part of that is a part coming from a lack of of confidence and self-doubt yeah but then, like, my particular way of encouraging her is like saying like, hey, lauren, you're so stupid for not using your gifts and I'm like damn it, maybe I'm not the right person.
Lauren:I need to adjust my language yeah, yeah, he'll be like in in a very loving way. You, dummy, use your intuition, yeah. You need to take lessons from Jessica, though, and she's like you're more intuitive than you know.
Frank:Yeah, I guess I'm just being kind, it's very gentle and sweet, but also okay.
Lauren:So our last class we had to do a, a practice like professional reiki session on a stranger. So people signed up and they showed up into our zoom like breakout room and we had to give them a session, right like my. My practice person was like I'm also a reiki master and I like I am also a Reiki master, and she was like super confident and I felt like uh-oh, like overwhelmed. But afterwards we talked about, like Jules, our teacher was like so what did you do during your session, or what did you do at the beginning or whatever.
Lauren:And Jessica, you had like all these things that you just like brought out every tool. When you were talking about it, I was like, oh no, I didn't think of any doing any of those things, I was just like you ready. She was like I called in their ancestors and I and I like I imagined a glowing light around them and like it was. So I was like I wish, I wish I was in her session because, oh my god, it was so like lovely. I just had to say that like, yeah, okay, hold on.
Frank:Let's back up a little bit here, because that brings up a bunch of questions I have I want to go back to. I want to go back to five-year-old jessica. So you said you knew you had gifts. Um, I'm assuming you didn't have a label for them when you were five. But uh, specifically I want to talk about because I always have a big question around angels. I wasn't I just talking, I literally said I think it was last night are you sure it was last night?
Frank:I swear we talked about angels for a second, like last night I thought it was like an hour ago where I was like, oh, something, something angels, and I'm still confused about that. Yeah, even though I'm, you know, 50 something episodes into this show. So for you, like what, give me your definition of an angel, or at the very least how they present to you so for me a definition is like a divine connection to source energy, universe.
Jessica:I I say god as well, but I I don't believe in god as like the ultimate, because it's just a lot of duality in that. So it's just kind of the way they show up to me, um is always in a peaceful um, white light, not white skin, but like white light, energy, gold, radiating um, and I can just feel their presence is it's like a lot of happiness and joy. And if I had to say God was in the room, I would say it's just that like it puts a smile on my face and it just feels really good to be around. Yeah, and that's how they kind of show up for me. And I would say my strongest, claire, cause you know the way they speak to me is my audio. That's the first, strongest one. So there they talk to me and then I would see it's a knowing and a feeling that I get afterwards and then I see them Like I would say vision is probably like the last one.
Frank:Oh, but you do see something that's yeah, that's cool.
Jessica:So when you were five, did you just sense or see like a glowing light and you were like that that I'm not scared, cause that's pretty cool, like what was sometimes I would get scared, cause I would also get non-angels coming through, um, I would say like entities, or I've had the devil show up or devil like, um, angels of those sorts come through. But ever since I was little, yeah, and but ever since I was little, like I and I'm not a religious person I do believe in source God energy, but I just don't follow religion. I'm very spiritual. But I would always say to them, when they would come through like entities, I would say, like, I'm a person of God, I'm a person of light, I'm a person of love, like you, don't come looking and knocking on my door. You're not going to find what you need, you need to go, need to go.
Jessica:Um, I've always done that since I was little. So, yeah, I've seen both. Yeah, but I would say, um, a lot of stuff comes through my dreams as well. So that's like probably when I get the most visions. But if I'm just like day to day, just now, like I would say, the audio and the knowing and the feeling is the strongest okay, that's really.
Lauren:that's so cool. You didn't have a family member that was kind of like coaching you or helping you, and you would just have that ability to say that kind of thing. That's awesome.
Frank:That is very nice.
Jessica:Yeah, yeah, I mean, I grew up like when I was 11 years old I decided I didn't want to follow a religion. But prior to that, I grew up Catholic. My, my, my mother was Catholic. My grandmother was still is Catholic, but so I kind of knew about God and his essence. But yeah, when I was 11, between like nine and 11, my mom was going through a phase where she was, I guess, like figuring out what religion she wanted to follow. So we went to like every religion under the sun. So when I was 11, told my mom, I was like listen, I know that you're like on a spiritual journey, but this is religion isn't for me. Yeah, like I believe in god, but I, I just don't really even like organize religion because they're all talking bad about each other.
Lauren:It's not what it's about yeah oh my god, that's, another awesome, but what?
Frank:a cool education about that a lot here. Frank grew up catholic and what a cool education to be able to like be just at the very least, exposed to all those different forms of belief when you're, when you're that young so real quick because you had mentioned like darker entities.
Frank:We haven't talked about that a ton on the show and you know, mostly because we try to keep things like light and I don't want to scare anybody. But also I have, I have a a theory that there's like again, this is kind of I'm, I'm, I'm a muggle I I I'm a non-magical person so, but I have a theory that's not true.
Frank:um, but so I have this theory that even entities that like are presenting as dark are made are probably just angry post-humans or like, and probably, yeah, like, because you know, if you scroll through reddit, every time it's like oh, cool, like I just. I just commented on someone's red. Someone posted a picture. I was like they thought they got a picture of like deceased mother in the background and I was like, oh, that's so neat, right. And then someone was like oh, demons are known to like take forms of people you used to love.
Jessica:And I was like come on man, it's just yeah, that's just rude, that's a mean thing, that's just rude. I know that's very mean. I think one of the big things that we learn in our intuition too is jewels is like you have to be very discerning about what you share, and I kind of always been that way too. So like yeah, that's really mean to say to somebody, but it is possible I'm sure it's possible, yeah yeah, I mean I from other shows that I've listened to, I've heard of again.
Frank:They're just, I think I think 99 of the time and I'm I'm hoping if you know better, please correct me anybody, any listener, but 99 of the time it's just a dude who's still angry and just wants to, like, you know, be beefy and like machismo and like think they're awesome, so like, oh, yeah, for sure, I I'm following you everywhere you go and I'm waiting for you to make one wrong move. But but in your experience, like you got like a negative sense of that kind of thing and you told them to bug off I tell them to bug off.
Jessica:Yeah, I'm like I flip them off and I'm like no, like I'm not the, I'm not the one, like I I always welcome, like even when she was saying welcome ancestors. I even say sacred ancestors, because all of our ancestors are not nice like you're saying, like they're just some mean ones. I'm only inviting in the ones that want to come through in a loving way. You know so. It's always like divine beings of that serve light and love only, because when you also invite angels, you can invite all sorts of angels. So you have to, you can ask them if they're an angel. They say yes, but you have to ask them are you serving love, are you serving light?
Jessica:then they'll tell you no or they'll tell you yes got it then it's kind of like how you you'll know, I like this discernment?
Lauren:yeah, this fits into my venn diagram that I've been building yeah, yeah okay, okay, makes it make sense to me I mean, jessica is really like you've got some.
Frank:You've got some like guidelines which I, which I appreciate, like you serving the light, nope, get the f out man exactly so you're able to energetically did like parse out like what's a say an ancestor versus like an angel, like they feel different to you or how do they present yeah, they feel different, especially if I'm working with somebody.
Jessica:Um, sometimes they'll be very clear and um about what they're saying. So the other person will know. I'll usually know. Sometimes they'll be like I'm the grandmother, sometimes it'll be like it feels like a female and she's saying this, this and that. So it kind of resonates with the other person, cause I also am a psychic and a medium, even though I don't work with people in that capacity. I'm not reading anybody's fortune or like kind of doing any of that. But I do keep my channel open when I do an energetic healing session, so those will come through as well.
Lauren:Are you wanting to develop your mediumship, or like do you think you'll do that One thing at a time?
Frank:She's in a Ricky class.
Lauren:We're almost done and and and. Jules also has a mediumship mentorship class.
Jessica:It's interesting, I think I I don't think I'm going to take that next year, cause I kind of need, I think I need time for integration, but I think I want to take it to understand it. But I am a very highly sensitive person and very empathetic. So I don't know if I'm ready to go down that rabbit hole yet with people and like dark things come through and like all that kind of shit and I'm like nah.
Frank:I love that you're talking about A loving Abuela comes through, I'm like fine. I love that you mentioned like taking time for integration, because I know we've mentioned on the show a few times, but because we're talking to like highly intuitive people every week and we learn all these lessons, it's like, oh, I want to do all this stuff, but then we don't have a chance to like settle in, so there's so much on the back burner.
Frank:and especially, you guys have been in class for like a year, right yeah it's been like such a an intense time and like intentionally intensely, like learning your, your trade, it's, it's very cool, but yeah, I think that's a great, that's a great note what type of like work are you doing now?
Lauren:because you you talk about like female embodiment and movement, and I remember, oh wait, and I remember like, um, one of our exercises we had to do was like, wasn't it like asking your higher self I was, we like had to practice seeing the your partner's higher self and I was getting images of you, like I was like she's, I was like she's dancing, she's got a drum and she's just like free, like flowing with music, and you were like this was like probably eight months ago or something like one of the first few classes, and you were like, oh yeah, I like want to start teaching female embodiment and like movement and I want to work with a drum. And I was like, oh, that's crazy.
Jessica:I got something. I got a drum after that. Oh, that's so cool. So one of my outlets to connect to, like energy and like also to release energy for me has been dance my whole life. My mother said, before I can even walk, I would pick myself up, you know, in the crib and just dance. And dance and music have been really important for me on many levels. So, so, yeah, so what do I do now? So I feel like I'm like a multi-gifted person, like I, and it's also hard for me because I'm like I have so many things and it's so true. It's like you see all these things and you're like I want to try all these things.
Jessica:So, um, what I'm doing now is kind of integrating, I would say, uh, healing Reiki, but I know that I'm not like my codes, my soul codes, aren't just for Reiki, like I. I love Jules, cause like that's kind of what she does, but she also does sound and crystal healing. So for me I know that like embodiment work is important, um, kind of helping people move things out of their body. Just because of my personal experiences with um, with my health issues, you know things are getting stuck in my body and I'm not even realizing. I wasn't. Now I'm aware, but I wasn't realizing that was happening. So I'm like I love to dance and I love to help people move out of their body and out of their minds. So basically I'm integrating somatic practices, embodiment, energy clearing, so through Re, reiki and sound I'm doing a little bit of sound as well and then, as well as my psychic and mediumship gifts, to kind of work with people on like an energetic alignment is what I'm calling. So kind of it's very, very customized to the person and what they need. I'm kind of using all the tools that we've also learned in our class to kind of get them there.
Jessica:I've also been hosting women's circles every single month where I combine all those things and kind of a more vulnerable, you know, just women. But then I've also been hosting these events with my cousin who is a yoga teacher and educator. He's been for about 12 years and him and I decided to collaborate and call ourselves La Frecuencia, which means the frequency. So my family's from Colombia and English is not my first language, so Spanish, so we decided to just use the word in Spanish because we just felt connected and basically what it means the frequency is we're combining both the modalities that we know for him is very yoga, movement and um, sound healing, and then I do reiki, sounds, um, and then, uh, combine that together to host these like frequency events, events around the new and formal. So I do those kind of in-person experiences.
Jessica:And then I'm also working on launching like a program, like a mentorship program I don't want to call it coaching, more like a guidance mentorship program, where I'm combining kind of helping people achieve their goals, because I know that, like abundance and manifestation codes are coming through to me in terms of helping others. So basically, let's say you want to go through this program, lauren, we would meet together, figure out what it is. That is this thing that you want to me in terms of helping others. So basically, let's say you want to go through this program, lauren, we would meet together, figure out what it is. Is this thing that you want to call in? And then we are going to work on some clearing. So we're actually going to do some energy clearing and bring up all the shit that you probably don't want to talk about.
Lauren:But I kind of talk about it.
Jessica:I'll cry about it, get it all out of here yeah, um, so call kind of that in, because we want to like identify what's also blocking, because a lot of these things are just blocks that we have. Yeah, so I want to kind of bring up those blocks, help you clear them, give you some strategy, and then, um, also kind of call in the manifestation. So that's kind of where I'm leading to, in addition to, like, everything else that I've been doing can I?
Lauren:I want to. Can I be one of your first clients?
Jessica:yes, freaking awesome, yeah what do you mean when you?
Lauren:say codes, can you?
Jessica:code so cold. Yeah, so we're all born with codes. Our gifts they're pretty much that we all have and um, so, before, like it just depends on your belief, like I believe that we have multiple like reincarnations and we all have these contracts, that our soul decides to pick a family to go and like live this human experience, right, yeah, so we go and live this human experience. So, like, our traumas are a part of our learnings and they're part of, like, our ways to kind of move through life as well. But our codes are our gifts, like things that innately we are just so good at, and sometimes they just get activated in different ways. Sometimes it's through trauma, sometimes you just know what they are, like some people just like think of, like a creative musician or something it just like gifted, you know. So it's like those are soul cold is what they call them. They're just our gifts.
Lauren:Oh, okay. Every time I've heard people say codes, I'm like don't know what. I don't know what they're talking about.
Frank:You want to know what my code is.
Lauren:What's your code, Frank?
Frank:My code is one, two, three, four or five. Oh wow, when you.
Lauren:I think that's a pin, that's your pen.
Frank:Secret. So when you talk about like clearing energy blockages and stuff, like are you, we've we've learned a lot about, especially in the past couple of episodes, I'd say, like the past five, we've been learning about how trauma you go through or feelings you're going through that aren't processed, like they get stuck and like let's say, like you're, you're, you're one of your chakras, and like what initially starts as a knot can become a dam and then can become an actual physical ailment, Exactly so I'm assuming you're talking about clearing blockages like that. That's like okay, so I'm assuming you're talking about clearing blockages like that.
Jessica:That's like OK, so exactly, you're right, it's. Sometimes it shows as a shoulder pain or like a headache that you're constantly getting no-transcript not working through them.
Frank:They're just gonna stay there right so like yeah right, okay, and you are using audio and dance and stuff as a as a way to just get the body moving and what? What did you feel, these feelings afterwards?
Jessica:yeah, so, so, yeah, so, like, let's say, you come for an energetic alignment session, I'm definitely have a playlist and I'm usually I create one sometimes, depending if, like, I'm called to like this person needs to go through this journey. Like and I'm usually I create one sometimes, depending if, like I'm called to like, this person needs to go through this journey. Like, usually I'm already connecting with people before they come?
Frank:is it just 100 lmfao? Okay, exactly, it's just. It's only everybody's party rocking everybody's just like party rocking, that's it.
Jessica:yeah, um, she's like I don't know. I just felt intuitively called yeah, like yeah, I just listened to my intuition for that and I'm just like what, let's do it. She's like I don't know. I just felt intuitively called to yeah, like yeah, I just listened to my intuition for that and I'm just like, well, let's do it. And then, yeah, so, and then if it's movement, you know, I'll either drum over their body I have an ocean drum, I have a Buffalo drum and then I have the audio playing as well. That'll help people just think a little bit more into kind of like that beta state where they can relax, um, and then movement. Like if I'm doing virtual, I can do the movement stuff more, I can guide them through like a movement session. That'll help them clear whatever is being like stuck there that's really interesting yeah, okay, that's so cool.
Frank:All right since. Um. How has your fibromyalgia been since?
Jessica:I was gonna ask that you've been on this spiritual journey a hundred times better, I gotta say, yeah, it's a hundred times better. Um, I also you know, learn that part of like who I am, if I like, I don't know if you guys answer astrology, I am we try to be an astrologer.
Frank:We're not good at memorization, so it could be better, but we like it.
Jessica:I always say I want to be better big fans, yeah, yeah. So when I read my birth chart, like I'm like why did I read this shit 20 years ago, like going into college?
Jessica:maybe it would have like influenced me, but I know a big part of like my, of who I am, I have, like it says like you're going to be a healer and also like you need to combine your passion with your purpose. That's so important for me. So I feel like as soon as I also shifted into this, transition into what I'm doing now and it's more in alignment with who I am as a person, a lot of that stuff has cleared. But also, like I've been doing so much work on myself. My husband's been traveling for most of the year, so I've been like alone and I've been like doing some heavy, deep shit in my house by myself.
Lauren:I'm glad he's back. You don't want any of this.
Frank:Let me speak for Lauren that sometimes you got to boot your husband out to do the real work Exactly.
Lauren:Yeah, spend some time. Dark night of the soul you know exactly.
Jessica:So I think I've gotten deeper with my practices. I've learned a lot more tools through our intuition, um, intuitive class, through reiki, um. There's just so much more tools I've added to my tool belt. And and also being able to express myself and my most authentic self, I think, has like released a lot of stuff in all parts of my life, not just in my career, but yeah yeah, yep, I feel that yeah.
Lauren:Frank is Frank Frank. Our listeners know this, but, um, frank has moved out of his like corporate life like one month after we started this podcast, and so it's been like it's been a slow transition, but I think you should try.
Frank:I think the transition isn't slow. I think daddy's slow. That's the issue right here. We're speeding up, though.
Lauren:We're speeding up. Maybe you should try some, some dance.
Frank:I think I have some very creaky parts of my body right now that I need to work up to dance, but I don't disagree you have to yeah. Get some movement, get the stagnant energy out that, in mine, a lot of it was needing to make the decision to stop living a life of. With such a severe dichotomy between this is my work and this is my pleasure, and what's funny is learning all that around the time that the podcast was created and this.
Frank:I love this so much and like it integrates all of your skills well, yeah, but also like it's just fun to connect and like talk about this stuff, which is something I've always had an interest in, and then well, and recently, out of sheer laziness and slight curiosity, um I allowed my my. I used to like get severe anxiety, like panic attacks and stuff. I have allowed my prescription for Prozac, which I claim saved my life at one point, expire and I've been sitting in this and feeling my feelings over the last few weeks. How long has it been now?
Lauren:Yeah, a few weeks.
Frank:A few weeks. I'm feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty great. Good. That's good to hear, but at the same time like not to say that there haven't been some bumpy points, but sitting feeling those feelings and like kind of working through them, especially with the support of Lauren, which has been amazing I feel much better than I used to and I also feel like having to live that dual life was giving me a lot of internal tension. Same yeah.
Jessica:Same.
Frank:Yeah, so I feel that.
Jessica:I love that. I love that for you. That's amazing.
Frank:I love that for you.
Jessica:So that's good to know, but it's true, like I, you know I've that's what led me to like breath work and meditation 20 years ago was my anxiety and like I also have a lot of like sleep issues. Like I have a c-pad machine, like I have all the things um and breath work and meditation, like I meditate and do breath work every day, I'm like without it, like I'm just like a mess, but it's helped me like not, you know, stay clear of like the anxiety meds as well.
Lauren:so what's an example of breath work?
Frank:let's just yeah we haven't really talked about that on the show no, like what do you do?
Jessica:so there's, there's like light ones. I mean there's when you think of probably what you've seen on socials people doing, like the holotropic breath work, which is like really okay, you haven't seen it.
Jessica:No, breath work could be like a box breath. Let's just like four parts in four parts hold out four parts. Hold like there's so many different ones that you can do. Um, you could do breath of fire where you just kind of rapid breathing, um you can okay, I, I have seen that what is breath of fire, because I'm always like that's crazy like you're like breathing in and out and your stomach is just and that's just to kind of clear any dense energy in your body.
Jessica:Oh, yeah, yeah it looks stressful though well, that's the point, because your body is kind of fighting for air and you're kind of moving it in this uncomfortable feeling. So you're you're helping it clear, because a lot of times we don't breathe.
Frank:Oh yeah, I know that.
Jessica:Yeah, so it's just kind of activating yeah.
Lauren:I get like breathing issues or like I mentally feel like I have breathing issues. I don't have asthma, at least as far as I know, but my anxiety comes in the form of like. But my anxiety comes in the form of like I can't take a deep breath and I like so the four seconds it. If someone tells me to count for like five seconds in and then breathe out five seconds or like hold it and stuff, I start getting anxious. That's just a. That's just a comment. I guess I don't really. Yeah, which one is? Is is the breath of? What's it called breath of fire?
Frank:it's very funny like I've seen people do it where they're really utilizing, like their stomach muscles.
Jessica:It's really yeah, they're like yeah, um, that's very intense.
Frank:I'll show you, lauren. But for me the box breathing works very well, because I have a tendency to not breathe at all. So that make forces me into a very calm cycle of breathing, but that's because I don't breathe and you feel like you can't take a deep breath. Maybe you should try the crazy fire breath thing.
Lauren:Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I've always said you're a goddamn dragon.
Frank:You're a dragon waiting to happen.
Lauren:It's dragon time, that's it Dragon time.
Jessica:I love a good dragon.
Lauren:Okay, so you do that every day.
Jessica:Yes, I meditate every day in the morning and do breath work. I mean, yeah, I'm morning and night, I do breath work.
Lauren:Is the point? Just the point is to like, regulate your the point of breath work is to regulate your system, it's to help you.
Jessica:There's so many different ones and they all have like something that will trigger something in your brain or your body. So you know, you can look up like breathing for anxiety, and they'll probably give you a few examples of ones that you can try. But yeah, there's different ones. Yeah, and I do the 487 to go to sleep, which is like four, and you hold for eight, you kind of release for seven and I love just taking deep breaths and also just like hot, what they call it in yoga Um, you like breathe in and then you just kind of let the power out and just Hmm, oh, I think you would like that.
Frank:That's yours, that's you.
Jessica:Yeah, yeah, that's the one that throat chakra. Yeah, get it out. Ha ha ha.
Lauren:So when you used to have the this is going going back for a second, because I forgot to ask you this when you had these visions or these dreams about your mom, did you, did you tell her or did you just keep that to yourself? And there was just like this kind of deep knowing of like she's, I don't, she's gonna, she's gonna pass, like young yeah, I was a deep knowing.
Jessica:I never shared that with her, actually like you asked me that, yeah, no, I didn't. It was a deep knowing, wow, and it's interesting because I just had like a sound bath that I did with a friend and, um, she's like I saw you sitting on a bench and these angels were flying in front of you and I was like, oh, you know, I told her about the dream and she's like, oh, my God, stop. But yeah, it was just like a deep knowing, a deep knowing that she was going to pass and yeah.
Lauren:Wow yeah.
Frank:I did want to ask you about that too. You said that your mom is now one of your angels, so how? I did want to ask you about that too. You said that your mom is now one of your angels, so that that. How does that work, cause, from what I've understood, like you're an angel or you're a spirit, can you transition?
Jessica:I was going to say, yeah, so she's, she's one of my spirit guys is probably the best way to say it, but I call her my earth angel. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, she's one of my spirit guides, along with my dog. It was like my soul dog. Yeah, she's always with her and she shows up all the time, like anywhere, and if there's somebody there that, like is a medium, like she shows up, like she's always sending messages, yeah, and she's also sending messages to me, but to others as well. So she's very strong, that's so nice.
Jessica:Yeah.
Frank:I love that I was listening to the other day. Someone was talking about how like animals are, from the angelic realm and always just there to like, guide and help and they're the best. They're the best. Is your grandma still with us?
Jessica:Yeah, yeah, she's 92.
Frank:how does she feel about all this work? You said she was pretty catholic yeah, she doesn't really know what okay are you trying to tell me that your grandma's not a subscriber to claire voyaging podcast?
Jessica:she's not following you on instagram 92, though good for her yeah, and it's interesting because it's like I've learned now that, like a lot of my aunts on my dad's side, I grew up with my dad but like I lived with my mother. They're all like I have an aunt who is uh, two of my aunts are reiki masters, like things. I've like known now that I'm just like I think it comes from that side of the family probably, uh, that they have a lot more gifts on that side of the family than my mom's side.
Frank:That's so cool. Wow, your family's neat. I have a lot of supposedly there's a lot of magic stuff on my father's side of the family, but they're all they're Cuban. So I've got either like a uh, you know, like a language barrier, or they're like just long dead because they have a tendency to not live too long. But but my aunt knows all about this stuff and she's all into it. But I haven't had a chance to like talk to a lot of people with like on my in my family who have the deep, intuitive gifts. It's so cool that you have that.
Jessica:Yeah, yeah, I wish I would have had it when I was younger.
Frank:Right, yeah, that would have been so helpful.
Jessica:Yeah, it's so helpful. I also think like and don't mind me, I'm like getting into some like immigrant stuff but let's do it you know and call it colonization stuff.
Jessica:But you know a lot of like my family is very indigenous. You know, when Columbia a lot of us are, they call them mestizos, where it's like mixed with indigenous and European blood and all these kind of things together. But, like you know, a lot of that got stripped away, you know, through colonization from Spain and Colombia and like all these practices that my family had for years and things that I do now and I've had to kind of read not I don't want to say learn, but but remember, remember kind of that those codes in me that already been there, passed down, you know ancestrally. And then you come and move to America. I'm first generation American. You know you kind of try to live the American way and also kind of keep the values of like growing up Hispanic. So it's kind of like this push and pull of like remembering everything again.
Frank:Yeah, yeah, the american way doesn't like this stuff that much, or at least there's no place for it yet. But it feels like it's developing a little bit it's developing, absolutely yeah, so as far as, like your, your like ancestral um culture has gone. Is that? Did that play into the drum? What brought you to a drum?
Jessica:I think so because I've always had visions of me being an elder indigenous woman in a tribe. I saw an Akashic record lady and saw somebody else and they both told me that same thing. I just feel like, even in dance, I love a good bass and a a good drum in like any kind of music.
Frank:So yeah, I think definitely, it's definitely there so this is all just very slowly getting to a joke where you are literally dancing to the beat of your own drum I love that and I don't know why it took me too long to put that together. That's really awesome. I love that.
Jessica:Yeah, definitely. I really love all of all of these things. It's just like I feel like I'm a student. I'm always learning, so I feel like next year the integration for me is going to be so important to kind of really take in everything. Lauren, how are you feeling? Are you going to?
Lauren:do psychic medium. No, with Jules, no, I'm kind of I'm with you on like I need just to integrate, I need more time to like meditate and do dragon breath work and meditate and do dragon breath work and yeah, I don't know exactly where my. I think, I really think that I learned Reiki for the most part, like at least for right now. I think I learned it for me to heal. I needed to do some like deep, deep healing, and then I think I also learned it for the our family for sure because it's like helped our kids.
Lauren:it's helped frank and I attuned frank and we're both able to give reiki to our kids and I think that's been like the biggest tool just in like this big, the bigger umbrella of like healing and deep like trauma healing and all this stuff that I don't think I would have done otherwise. I mean maybe I would have had I gone to like 10 years of therapy, but I say I was on like the fast track to Reiki master because I was like I like the deep meditation and like the attunement and I've never felt that like connected and all that stuff. So I think I think that's at this point, that's where that's where I'm at.
Frank:I'm going to go ahead and call you out right now in the nicest way possible. Great, I still think that the thing that would help you the most into really diving fully into this world is to release some of the control that you're holding on to the fear of what's going to happen if I go full immersion.
Jessica:Okay, I kind of agree with you. That's the same. I got control. That kept popping in my head before you said it, even when you were talking about your breath. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Lauren:That's a big control thing, yeah, yeah.
Frank:You are afraid of full spiritual immersion, where I think that's where you will be explosively powerful suddenly in all of your gifts.
Lauren:I don't Okay. See, this is why I need to. I need a session with Jessica. I need to get in there with more clearing.
Frank:Clearly, I need more blockages, cleared blockages yeah, cleared, and then and then the, the uh manifestation codes.
Lauren:Yeah, but you know, I like, I didn't. I think, when it comes to like reiki or healing, like there's some, I think there's some part of me that's just like, like you, like I'm not, I don't want to. Just I don't want to be a Reiki practitioner like this. It just doesn't. That's not what I'm here for, or something. So I yes, I like to give it to you or my kids.
Lauren:It's part of it but and I have been like, oh, it'd be cool to do like a. I like to give it to you or my kids. It's part of it. It's part of it, yeah. But and I have been like, oh, it'd be cool to do like a workshop or something. But like I'm also not, I'm not putting it together, so obviously I'm not super excited about it or something I don't know.
Frank:What do you mean? You're not putting it together.
Lauren:I'm not like organizing anything to be like come to my workshop or come online to do this. You know guided meditation or something. So I don't know.
Frank:But I think a lot of that is because you have you, you have learned this all in parts and you need you need yourself as the guiding light that your authentic, like spirituality and your authentic power to actually reinforce all of it. Okay, so you gotta, you gotta, light up.
Lauren:I gotta light up you gotta light up. Welcome to our marriage counseling therapy session.
Frank:Yeah, we found the best this whole thing is actually just about marriage counseling. We found we just need anybody to sit in front of us and listen. So all the stuff we're asking about you is just a nice. It's nice of us, but you're here for us, God.
Lauren:And then we'll just tell you like what are you getting? You know, clear, audiently, Just throw me a bone every so often.
Jessica:Give me some thoughts for Frank.
Lauren:What does Frank need to hear?
Frank:I have a question about some of the other stuff that you do. Do you call them workshops? Some are workshops, yeah okay, you had mentioned doing like new and full moon work. What is that? What is that? What is that? What?
Jessica:is that? What is that? I love a new moon and a full moon because the moon impacts you know so much our earth, our tides, our water and we're made up of what? 70% water, so it also impacts. You know the way we move and stuff like that. So, combining the frequency and the energy of a new moon or a full moon, so the new moon, what you're doing during that time is typically you're calling in something.
Jessica:The new moon is not an illumination, it's just a new cycle, because the moon cycles every 28 days. Right, it's just like a new moon that's coming through, so that usually you're calling in. You know you're working on your manifestation practices on a full moon, it's when the moon is its illumination. And what I love about the moon, too, is it's like us, like we go through our dark cycles and then we we got to go through the dark to get to the light, right, and that's like when, then, when the full moon is at its brightest, and that you're working on like releasing, like what are you, what are you going to release, what are the things that you want to work on? So we're using the power of just like mama gaia the earth, right, like the moon, along with combining reiki, sound healing, uh, gentle yoga movement, all together to kind of move things, move that flow that's happening in your body and, um, helping people kind of clear. So everybody comes to. We usually have around smallest class has been five, it's usually around 15, 20 people we usually have in our classes and it's just this beautiful dance, um of all these modalities working together and some people come in and like leave crying, like coming giving me hugs and like oh, like I just moved through this thing I needed to do and and it's beautiful because we also were. My cousin and I are not in astrologers but we are into astrology. So we'll give people a little bit like astrological forecast of what's happening in the month of the full moon and the new moon and we usually tie in the music Um the theme.
Jessica:I also kind of think of it like a little Dharma talk, like a yoga Dharma talk, where I talk to people about like whatever the topic is based on that. Let's say there's a full moon in Pisces. Pisces is about water, so usually I'll tie in water elements to kind of what the Pisces theme is and I'll create like this whole just kind of discussion around, like moving through things, letting things flow, discussion around, like moving through things letting things flow, so kind of that's what kind of guides our conversation. And then it kind of moves into the different practices that we're doing. And then I go around the room and do hands on Reiki and I do that intuitively, so I'll be intuitively guided. Obviously I can't do a full session on everybody, because I usually have like five minutes. If it's like a group of 15 to 20 people, then I'll just like target like whatever I'll do the bio scanning on their body and just target whatever area and usually people come to me.
Jessica:They're like I know that, like I tell myself, like I know she's real, she's gonna get to like, and you usually go right to wherever I need, like, the support. So it's really interesting but also very hard because there's so many, sometimes there's so many energies in the room right, I'm like trying to work through them, Um, but I go home and I I pass out and I sleep so good. There's so much clearing and different things that are happening. I sleep really, really well after those events.
Lauren:Oh man, that sounds so nice.
Frank:No, it really does.
Lauren:Yeah, the um you come to the LA area. Yeah, yeah.
Frank:Do you um? So you, you obviously time your your workshops and stuff based on the moon cycle yeah exactly so.
Frank:This is funny because I've never thought, I've never. We're always like, oh, I need to do some like healing work, or you know, I always know, like you do a little bit of um, I don't know a little bit of trauma work, a little bit of shadow work, and then, like you need to take a break. I've never thought of timing this out to be like, oh, what's the moon at? Oh, I should probably do my, my, my shadow work next week and then take a healing period and then get. It feels like a 30-day cycle is like the perfect amount of time to do a full, a full cycle yeah, exactly we are not.
Frank:We're just the timing's right here. It doesn't have to be about your motivation or your there's a new moon today.
Jessica:Actually, a new moon in Sagittarius is today.
Frank:Ruh-roh, uh-oh, we're both Sagittarius.
Jessica:Oh, I love that I'm a Sagittarius rising.
Frank:Oh fun.
Lauren:Okay, it's time to party, hey, okay, so so. So today is a day for.
Frank:Oh, we should mention what the date is, just in case.
Lauren:Today is December 2nd. Okay, cause this is is gonna come out in 24. There you go, all right, and so today it's a day for manifesting, then, right, yeah?
Jessica:embracing sagittarius. Y'all love to like learn religion, theology, like free spirited um. So it's like kind of diving into well, you're sad, you know yourself, but like diving into that kind of worldly embodied person that you guys are and kind of tapping into what that looks like from a manifestation practice. So yeah, today's a new moon, okay.
Frank:Yeah, very fun. Let me ask you real quick when you do your um your bio scanning, how does someone's like point of uh, where they need attention? How does it come? How do you, how do you feel it?
Jessica:I usually hear it, um, and it's usually words Like it's the weirdest thing, and for me it's a lot of mute. I told Laura this before like I'll get like a song that pops in my head and like it'll, you know just, it'll be like, or the word will repeat many times, or like all here. So it's sometimes it'll be like heart, heart, heart, heart. Like you need to work on her heart. She's something is going on with that person's heart, like go and work on the heart. So something like that is usually what comes through. Or sometimes with my hands, I get tingles on the bottoms of my hands. I'm doing bio scanning, so I kind of listen to both my hands and what my hands, but I also they're like screaming in my ear. I have like a little voice in my ear, okay.
Frank:So your, your clear audience is like next level.
Jessica:That's like your top. It's very strong yeah.
Frank:That's wild Cause. When I do that stuff I feel, I just feel heat, like I feel a little. I feel very strong patches of of heat. I'm like oh, I do feel something, but I've never heard of anybody hearing during Reiki that's.
Lauren:I hear little words. I told you I hear I'll hear a word every so often and I was me listen. It's hard for me to like filter out your own self-doubts. You're like I think I'm hearing something but I'm like I don't know. I can't help you there. But I'll tell you, like, like you know, I was doing a reiki session with someone and I was like I heard the word resentment.
Lauren:You do say, I heard yeah yeah, or like with you I was doing something and I was like I heard sad, sad boy just kidding sad boy oh my gosh.
Frank:I don't know that's so interesting though.
Lauren:Okay, yeah, you're right, you do say that but not to that level that's really cool and again the doubt, because I'm like, I think my brain is just like saying it's just popping up with stuff.
Jessica:Have you been able to figure out the difference between your own voice and the clear audience. Yeah, you should do a little practice.
Lauren:I have not really. Yeah, I heard one different voice. Every so often, when I'm falling asleep, I start hearing. I feel like, oh, I wasn't quite asleep, I'm not having a dream and I'm hearing. I feel like, oh, I wasn't quite asleep.
Lauren:I'm not having a dream and I'm hearing like voices, I'm hearing like people talking or someone talking, and then I either wake up or I just like whatever. But it's only been a recent thing that I'm realizing that. And then one time the night before our Reiki class, I went into a deep meditation right as I was falling asleep and I said because we had just started this podcast, and someone was like you can ask your spirit guides to like you can invite them in to your space or whatever while you're meditating, or you're meditating. And I said is, are my spirit like? I said something like are my spirit like? I said something like is anyone with me right now? Or something Like who are you? And I heard this male voice say Stefan. I was like I didn't make, I didn't make that up, like that's too random. And I was like what? And he just said keep going. I was like okay, but that keep going. I was like okay but that was it.
Lauren:But that's the only time it's ever been something different from my own voice. How do you discern?
Jessica:the same. Like I, there it I. It took me a while though to be like am I fucking crazy? Am I hearing voices, you know? But like, I think, when you start to deepen into that state of like, being an open channel and allowing yourself to kind of connect and just clearing any doubt, removing any judgment, removing any fear or control, you're able to. That's why meditation is great, because it removes all that and you're able to receive information. So I think when I remove and just surrender is when I can hear things very clearly and when I'm at my events, I'm usually in a very surrender state and in a connection state, so I'm able to understand that it's not my voice coming through and it's more of a knowing. I can tell the difference between my voice and the voice which sounds like me, but I know it's not me, right, if that makes sense.
Lauren:Yeah, yeah, no, that does All right.
Frank:Well, let's not have Lauren learn to discern too much, because sometimes, right as she's falling asleep, I'm like in the morning you're going to make a three cheese omelet and it's going gonna be so good that's great.
Lauren:I love that and I'm like stefan, is that you?
Frank:and I'm like, yeah, yeah, stefan for sure it's interesting.
Jessica:Mine happens in the morning time when I'm waking up, right before I wake up is when I get all my downloads, which I hate sometimes because then I wake up and half of it I remember and half of it I don't. I'm sure you experience that when you're falling asleep yeah, where I'm like picnic what?
Lauren:I just hear some random lady talking about a picnic. I'm like Frank, it's all just Frank finding different ways to mess with me this entire show has been a farce.
Frank:Just to get more omelets in my life, yeah and picnics keep going, keep making the omelets you're doing so good Stupid.
Lauren:Sorry, Jessica. Thank you for putting up with our garbage.
Frank:Do you have anything else?
Lauren:No, I wanted to, I want to. I want to see if Jessica has gotten her website up and running yet, cause it's been a it's been a topic she keeps bringing up, and how are we doing?
Jessica:Oh, we're almost done. I think I should be done in the next, whenever this launches, I'll have the website. All right, yes, it's all it's at the tail end. Yeah, okay.
Frank:That's amazing.
Jessica:So tell us what it is so everyone can find you. Yeah, jessicadianaco, and yeah, just simple. And then my Instagram is JessicaDiana Sol.
Frank:Oh that's nice.
Jessica:Like sun.
Frank:Oh yeah, yeah, that's even nicer.
Jessica:I decided to just keep my first and middle name because I still haven't changed my last name. But let's not talk about that. No judgment here. Nope you know I'm like, this is my God-given name. There you go.
Frank:I only call Lauren by her maiden name when she's in trouble.
Lauren:Yeah, yeah, not like my mom, if I haven't made the three cheese omelet yet, I'm Lauren Lanning.
Frank:She becomes a Lanning real fast, yeah, he doesn't.
Lauren:He doesn't claim me. Um, you know, I'm just really it's been so fun to just to get to know you over the last year but also to see, like how things have developed in the last year for you and like how you've shifted into like this is what I'm doing now and cause it was when I first met you like kind of having these like ideas I don't know what I'm doing with this and like it's so amazing what a year can do and seriously watching you like have all these like workshops and classes and a full moon thing, and now you're going to do coaching or guidance you don't want to call it coaching Like that's so cool and I'm really excited for what the next year will bring.
Jessica:Yeah, I appreciate you saying that Because actually today, a year ago, is when I started my Instagram account and it just today. I've just been doing a lot of reflection of what the year has brought. And you know, because sometimes I'm sure you feel this, frank, things move slow, like transitioning out of corporate, like. For me, I feel like it's been a slow journey, yes, but all in divine timing, like everything is right where it's supposed to be. But, um, I appreciate that and it's been so fun having class with you and you know, yeah, the rest of our teammates. I love when they pair us together, honestly, because her and I always talk through things and not every, not everybody in class I could do that with. So it's it's always fun and we always keep it light and laugh a lot yeah, that's so fun.
Lauren:That's part of it. You can't take it too seriously.
Frank:No, it's like. That's something that I've been paying attention to a lot lately is like you know, you gotta be here, you gotta have good humor. It's an important thing that we're all doing here, but at the same time, it can be fun, and absolutely it should be fun yeah, and that's a big thing.
Jessica:Also, like in my program is like one of the things are also like on my website. You'll see it's like I am grounded in joy and laughter and you know love, because otherwise you can't take yourself too seriously yeah, yeah, so boring otherwise.
Frank:So yeah exactly we're too dire yeah, yeah thank you so much for hanging out with us today. This is so much fun yeah yes, and as your like, website launches and like anything else, any big developments you have, please like, let us know so we can tell you know our listenership that you're doing this now, or any new offerings, because, yeah, we want, we want to send the people.
Lauren:And I want to do your guidance. It's energy clearing and abundance manifestation. Yeah, absolutely, we're going to do it. Okay, nice, yay, good about it.
Frank:All right, Jessica, we'll talk to you soon.
Jessica:Absolutely. I appreciate you both. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, thank you so much.
Lauren:Bye Jessica, take care. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, thank you so much. Bye Jessica.
Jessica:Take care.
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