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061: Conscious Parenting // with Carrie Lingenfelter

• Clairvoyaging • Season 1 • Episode 61

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Carrie Lingenfelter, the insightful host of the Heart to Heart Parents podcast shares transformative strategies to nurture children's intuitive abilities while addressing the inner child issues we may face as parents. Discover practical advice for parents as we explore the heart-centered approach to parenting highly sensitive children. Carrie draws from her personal experiences and spiritual insights, spotlighting the shift from fear-based to love-based parenting. Learn how letting children lead with their own rhythms can foster profound growth and connection. Carrie equips neurodiverse and sensitive kids with the mindful tools needed to thrive in today's fast-paced world. This episode is rich with personal stories and revelations, offering invaluable lessons for parents and non-parents alike.

Dive into the world of energy management and empowerment in parenting. We discuss innovative techniques for helping sensitive children navigate their emotions and surroundings, from visualizing protective lights to understanding energetic influences. Carrie shares her perspective on star seed and indigo children, offering insights into nurturing their unique gifts. We emphasize the importance of mindfulness and maintaining emotional balance as parents, exploring practices like meditation to ensure both we and our children remain energetically grounded and healthy.

Check out Carrie's podcast: https://hearttoheartlife.com/podcast/

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Lauren:

Hello friends, In this episode we talk to Keri Lingenfelter, host of the Heart to Heart Parents podcast and former educator and speech therapist. She is an advocate for conscious parenting. But even if you aren't a parent, I think you'll still get a lot out of this episode. I'm Lauren Leon and I'm Frank. We are a married couple learning how to develop our own intuition. This is episode 61 of Clairvoyaging. Wayfeather Media presents Clairvoyaging hey new track, how you like. That it's pretty good, right, it's a little upgrade, yeah how about this?

Frank:

how's it going everybody? How you doing? Hi hello, how's your drive time? Commute? I need a saga. Oh, oh. What's the saga?

Lauren:

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Frank:

It's Claire Voyaging.

Lauren:

Yeah, Welcome to Claire Voyaging friends.

Frank:

Welcome to it.

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Welcome back, guys. Frank, I have a nice little update for you.

Frank:

Let's hear it.

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Frank:

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Lauren:

It really is, yeah, but you know what? I love it.

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Lauren:

At least one of us does yeah.

Frank:

Hey guys, in addition to Patreon, if you're interested, I think we mentioned this, but we have officially received fiscal sponsorship from Fractured Atlas and that makes us technically able to receive 50 oh, one, c, three style tax deductible donations. Yes, and your donations are going to go to our documentary, which is going to feature Sarah Reeves from what? Oh, I said it, I'm saying he said it. Sarah Reeves from the night owl podcast and from metaphysical you and from MP unleashed.

Lauren:

She was, I think, episode 12 of our podcast.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lauren:

One of the top most downloaded episodes of 2024.

Frank:

Yeah, it's a good one.

Lauren:

Sarah Reeves. She's amazing and we're really excited to join up and team up with her team.

Frank:

We're heading out to Austin.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

If you want to know how to donate or if you just want to go check out our new, revamped website. There's a couple of new things on there. Go to Claire voyagingcom. Yeah, Lauren, what are some of the new things we have on the site?

Lauren:

We have some really helpful guides, so one. There's a directory of trusted professionals, which is just like. You can see a list of practitioners.

Frank:

All the contact info for the like psychics and mediums that we've had on the show.

Lauren:

Yeah, and that's really great. Also, we have a guide for parents raising psychic children. We have a guide for people who are needing help expanding their religious faith.

Frank:

Yeah, In case specifically for parents, if you're a parent and you have realized that your kid is psychic and you it kind of challenges your belief system, there's kind of a guide in there for how to how to expand your own faith system. And then we have one more guide in there for if you yourself are new, developing or budding psychic, just the basic ethical rules that we've picked up over. You know the past year or so of of talking to a very intuitive people.

Lauren:

Yeah, so if you or someone you know needs some guidance, it's just a nice helpful hub of resources.

Frank:

Yeah, so we're going to build on that. We're going to make some like more. All those guys are going to turn into videos. We're going to keep making more guides, so we want it to be a resource. For you know kind of kind of resource we're looking for when, when glenn was going through her thing before we met all these cool people yeah so because I did some extensive research and I couldn't find shit and well, it's like you know, you can find one book here and there you can find books or maybe some blogs or something, but I feel like there's something helpful about kind of having a more of a contained.

Lauren:

Here's this and here's this, and you can go to this person you know.

Frank:

Listen to this episode whatever it's a hub, yeah so go check it out so tell your friends speaking of our guest is really really cool. She is.

Lauren:

Carrie was. She was great to talk to. I got some you know what? I had some helpful guidance from her today that I actually implemented with our kids.

Frank:

Well, like as usual when it comes to information on how to help raise your kids to be healthy people, you inevitably run into some advice about how to just like take care of your own inner child stuff that maybe you didn't get around to or wasn't done for you. So, even if you're not a parent, there is advice in there for you.

Lauren:

Yes, enjoy this episode, check out her podcast, but first listen to this episode.

Frank:

Yeah, let her rip.

Lauren:

Carrie, thank you so much for joining us on Clear Voyaging. We are so excited to talk a little bit about parenting in this episode. So can you give a little bit of your backstory and tell us what brought you here as host of the Heart to Heart Parents podcast?

Carrie:

Yeah, definitely so. Thanks so much for having me guys. I was raised spiritually. I'll start out with that. I was raised spiritually. My grandmother is from Argentina, and so my mom and my grandmother both were spiritually connected their whole lives, and I grew up going to psychics and healers and raised with a positive mindset, looking for how we can change our mindset from challenges into what are we meant to learn and grow in this moment, as well as living in the present moment, not focusing on the future. Having said all of that, we still come into life as a human, which can be challenging, especially for a highly sensitive person like me, and I definitely disconnected with a lot of it in my 20s as well as my teenage years. So when I became a parent, it really helped me to find that peace again.

Carrie:

I was trying to be this perfect in the box parent. I was trying to read all of the books. What to what to expect when you're expecting anything was one of them which I should have thrown out the window, cause it was really just fear-based, like it really just brought out that here's everything that could go wrong, and I didn't realize that I was such a person that would get into my head or trying to fit the mold of being this perfect mom. So, luckily, I had spiritual people around me that they said throw out the books, connect with your heart. Like stop trying to get your kid on a sleep schedule, stop trying to make him eat at a certain time. Follow your kid, connect with your kid. And I was bouncing on a yoga ball in the closet one time, looking down at my little guy and he had these bright blue eyes with his little binky and he was staring up at me like I'm not going to go to sleep right now. I have 85 sleep gadgets on. Right now. You're trying to make me go to sleep. I don't want to. And I realized, like, follow my kid, connect with him. He's going to show me how he, when he wants to eat, when he wants to sleep, um, and this kid really came in very spirited and it really just rocked our world.

Carrie:

I was a formerly an educator and so I thought I've got this parenting thing. Husband, you can just sit in the back seat. I've got this parenting thing, husband, you can just sit in the back seat. I've got it. I'm driving the car, you don't need to worry. I was made for this. I was a speech therapist and a teacher and so, um, but when our kid came in, he had these bright, fluorescent, blue eyes. They laid them on top of me and they said my husband, um, he connected with my eyes right away with these eyes, and I was like Whoa, what is this? What?

Carrie:

is going on and my husband said he's beautiful Carrie. And he turned and he looked directly into my husband's eyes and he was like what, what? He's so alert and he hasn't stopped being alert since. He's just um. And now our daughter is the same way. They both have this passion and this zest and this energy for life. So I started Heart to Heart Parents.

Carrie:

As a former educator, I originally started with wanting to teach our kids mindful tools, especially neurodiverse kids that are born with these amazing gifts but have a really hard time with the heightened sensitivity and being in the human form, but have a really hard time with the heightened sensitivity and being in the human form.

Carrie:

My kids were born connected spiritually and wanting to learn about the world, and I've watched them have a hard time being in the human form. Just putting on snow pants is a lot of screaming and a lot of this is hard, mom, I hate this. Why is life so hard? And so teaching them these tools including you know a lot of the sensory based tools but also integrating these mindful pieces of yes, your brain can get heavy, but I need you to hear your heart, I need you to stay connected. Yes, your soul can sometimes be like oh, this human form is why is mom feeding me this green stuff? I don't want to eat this and just wanting to disconnect from their spirit and their soul. So teaching them to reground themselves and also, as a highly sensitive mom, teaching myself to reground myself too. So it was a very long way of how I got here.

Lauren:

No, no, that's I mean. It's perfect. That's so great Also. So how old are your kids now?

Carrie:

Yeah, so I have an almost seven year old daughter and an almost 10 year old son.

Lauren:

Oh my gosh, we have a seven year old daughter too.

Carrie:

Okay, I love that era. It's very fun. It's one of my favorites. It's really fun yeah.

Lauren:

Yeah, when you talk about like how sensitive your kids are, what does that look like? Is it um, because I know everyone's talking about like neurodiversity or just highly sensitive people? Um, what does that look like in your household?

Carrie:

Yeah, definitely. Um. So there is definitely the label piece, the medical piece of getting that support, and I was a speech therapist so I understand the therapy and the insurance and all of those fun pieces, those human form pieces, and so in our house we have used labels to get extra support and therapies from OTs. So there is the label piece and then I'm finding oftentimes we are almost using an umbrella of labels to fit kids into because we do not know how to help these kids that are coming in. They're so gifted and talented, their sensitivity systems are so heightened, they come spirited right, they come on a mission. I recently had a sorry, this is a little story, but I recently had a family constellation session. I don't know if you guys have looked into that, but we were doing a it's.

Carrie:

The idea is the energy that is brought down in different generations of family and it can cause like, for example, one of my kids had some anger that they were going through and it just kept coming up in all these situations and then it would trigger some anger in me, and so during our session we worked on some anger that was in my family that was coming down. It didn't even necessarily have anything to do with me, but it was coming down to me and then also my kiddo, and so we worked on healing that during that session and that was helpful. In now, my son or my kiddo and myself are getting so we stay grounded and calm during situations that we may explode in normally. So that's the idea in this family constellation. So the facilitator, she was telling me that these kids that are born today in the family constellations idea, right now, in this era, they're coming in with so many gifts and these lives and souls missions that we cannot control them. We can guide and facilitate their journey, but we cannot control them. And I feel like that is. So my kids like, yeah, go clean up right now. Ah, my system is not ready. Like, just this explosion of like I can't handle that right now, mom. I had a long day at school. I had, you know, this explosion of like. I can't handle that right now, mom. I had a long day at school. I had, you know I'm. I have a scratchy throat right now. Whatever the reasoning is, that's the sensitivity piece that I'm talking about too is I have to monitor my kids and what energy level they're at If they've had a long day, if they have been in school, usually right after school for my kids is not the time to ask them to pick up their toys or to ask them to clear off their desk. So the sensitivity piece is definitely in the sensory system.

Carrie:

Being a human, but also I've been working with my kids a lot to understand that, although there are labels for these sensitivities, which I do not share with my kids ever the labels I'm working to empower my kids. These heightened sensitivities so, um, like things can take food, food can taste stronger to my kids. My husband has a really strong sense of smell, so when we were looking at going to buy a house, he was like this house had a cat, I can smell it, and they really like I don't smell it. So in our house, these heightened sensitivities. We call them superpowers, whereas, like an OT or somebody in the therapy side, might be like well, your system, your brain is overworking, you're being overstimulated by this, but we're looking at it as these are gifts that that spirit, god, universe, has given to me so that way I can connect further.

Carrie:

I can, I can use these extra heightened sensitivities to understand my world, to connect with myself further, to acknowledge when I have this feeling or this instinct about careful on those stairs, when you're walking up them, carrie, you might trip, and then I slow down and I listened to those, not sure if that answered your question, lauren.

Lauren:

No, I mean it more than answered my question. And also like it's such a respectful way to treat your kids in in regard to like not, you know they don't want to be controlled, so you're not trying to like override it with more control, because that doesn't work.

Frank:

and what do you mean? I mean, I heard every parent has that that struggle, right like that's yeah, no, it's so relatable and as soon as like close to bedtime strikes around our house, oh yeah oh, it gets real, it is.

Lauren:

It's a nightmare.

Frank:

Yeah, and I always say like I hate that time and it's the same thing with, like the we, we are just trying to keep everybody on track so that they don't. You know, as a parent, I'm like I don't want you guys to have a bad day tomorrow because you're tired and grumpy. Trying to get them to move in the right direction. Yeah, trying to get them to move in the right direction without an argument is close to impossible. So hearing that like having to let go of the control element of it, what do you do? So what do you do?

Carrie:

You look at what is causing you as an adult to want to control your child. What were you not able to control as a child in your own childhood that you wish you could have controlled? You know, is there healing For me? I studied Reiki, so I love Reiki. I'm going back to level two and so for me, I try to connect deeper during my meditation. Sometimes I do intuitive journaling, sometimes I do Reiki and then I work on trying to figure out what age it was when something happened. Or I just picture a little carry and I give myself Reiki to heal myself. In those times, what was it that I was trying to control? I'm trying to control. Why do I get upset when my kid is like well, you said bedtime was 730. Why can't I do eight? I'm almost 10, mom, why?

Frank:

do I have to be like, oh God, like what is it in?

Carrie:

me that erupts. What is causing that? That control piece?

Frank:

I know and then, like you're talking about, with the kids these days, our kids too being super sensitive, you know, like that, that anger, that too being super sensitive. You know, like that, that anger that you are feeling. You know they're picking up on that before you even say a word or make a sound. I can feel it yeah, I know it. Yeah, and it triggers them and I.

Carrie:

I think it's interesting because, right, we have the neurodiverse labels, we have the highly sensitive child, we have the gifted and talented. Sometimes my husband and I have received labels for our kiddos and then sometimes we just sit down and we go are they just gifted and talented and quirky?

Lauren:

Is this what a?

Carrie:

gifted and quirky kid looks like Like that. That was probably us as kids. We were quirky, introverted, gifted kids and, um, you know, that's that's how our spirit really shined was, um, looking at these pieces, these—yeah, I'm not sure where I'm going with that, but when we're talking about these pieces, I've really learned that my kids, they really need to understand where we're coming from. So I explain a lot like this is why, like you said, we have to go to bed early. Because of this, but also like— Because they are empath kids, there's so many tools that we can be using with them.

Carrie:

My favorite lately has been doing guided meditations with my almost seven-year-old. We've been doing like last night we did an aligning chakras guided meditation, wow. The week before, we've been doing exchanging energy, sending the day's energy down through a green tube into the earth, where the earth absorbs it, and then we saw that Kauai or not Kauai, the big Island was exploding and I was like, joking around with my seven-year-old, like, do you think that it's all of our energy we're sending into the earth? Like she has to get it out. That's what the earth is doing. It's bubbling up. So, yeah, that's what the earth is doing. It's bubbling up, mom. So, um, yeah, you know, like, like, um, actively talking about their energy levels, actively saying to them, drawing boundaries for ourselves. Mom just took you to get new shoes. Now you're asking me to do this other thing with you. I'm not energetically there, but I'm super tired. Give me 10 minutes to lay recharge and then we can go and do that with you. So monitoring our own energy levels and teaching them with being the example of that.

Carrie:

Yeah, and then yeah, when we were talking about the, the sensitivity piece, there's one that I love using with my seven and eight year old before they go to school. Uh, school is an intense place.

Frank:

Yeah.

Carrie:

These, these amazing kids, are trying to stay focused, trying to I don't know if yours is or your kiddos or other kiddos are people pleasers, but they're trying to be good in their seat, not disrupt anything. Um, it tends to happen with these hypersensitive kids or super sensitive kids. So I love to do a white light. We picture it at the top of our head and it spirals around our body all the way down to the ground, and then we picture a gold light spiraling around. And then I've taught them. They now recite it. But we say no negative energy allowed, only positive energy. And so now when the kids are leaving to go with dad in the car or my husband, I'll say say it white and gold light. And then I'll hear them repeat no negative energy, only positive energy allowed. We do that at night, at bed too.

Lauren:

But if you practice these things at bed like it gets.

Carrie:

it gets shorter yeah.

Frank:

You know, like for a while there, especially when we were dropping off our daughter at school, who's like very, very sensitive we were doing like a little bit of a, like a protection mantra for her yeah, well, and also I had just learned reiki, so I would have her repeat with me like on the way to school.

Lauren:

Just for today, I will not be angry, I will not worry, um, I will be filled with gratitude and I will um, and I will do my best and I will be kind to every being, including and especially myself, and there's something really empowering about that. Also, just paying attention to your energy, I feel like adults who don't even have kids, that haven't done as much energy work Like I've. I've posted things about it on social media and had, like you know, adults like I'm 65 years old and I'm going to do this, this thing too. It's really important because we don't pay it as much attention as we should.

Frank:

We do a car wash. I love that one. Energetic car wash, yes, yeah.

Lauren:

And and yeah, just anything that you can do to like have your kids be aware of what's going on in their body, cause, like I mean, I wasn't as aware when I was a kid. I was like just I would go inward and like not understand why I was feeling upset or why other people's energy was affecting me so much. At school I didn't have any of those tools, and I think that's really helpful.

Frank:

This is really interesting to me right now because you're making me realize now that also when I was cause I'm also an introvert, and definitely so as a kid when you were feeling kind of off because of my lack of awareness of, like you know, energetic influences, what you do naturally as a person, as you turn inward, you make it about what's wrong with me.

Lauren:

Right yeah.

Frank:

And and you're, I'm going to jump into full woo for a second. You know if we're talking about how on the show, we often talk about you know your higher self and all this stuff. We have a mantra that we say every night here outside energies to say, hey, I know these little humans, they look old to you energetically, but they're just, they're babies and they need to have a full night's rest. So please kindly bug off. And yes, and. But now you're saying taking that same like lesson into parenting. I can tell you that I have not been respecting my children as aged, eternal beings, you know, and and when there's no reason why they can't, wouldn't be able to understand. You have an energetic thing going on right now. That's why you feel the way you do. I have an energetic thing going on. We're clashing, we're on different frequencies.

Lauren:

Like we can make this work if we all just take a second, you know yeah, the the thing that you and I heard you say it, I've heard you say it on your podcast um, that do you. I've heard other people say this too, that the kids, kids that are being born now or in the last, what I don't know 15 years maybe, are more uh, not special, are more sensitive. They're more like connected. Where they're more connected, almost like people have said, like they're here to kind of help, like, yeah, us dumb, dumb adults like ascend and understand, like we remember our connection to yeah, I don't spirit world or whatever I don't know if you guys have heard of star seed.

Carrie:

Star seeds um, yes, or um, indigo children people can take it or leave it, because it's an idea. I think Dolores Cannon wrote a lot about it. She was a hypnotist and so she started to. When she was doing the hypnosis on people, she would start to hear some of these messages, and so that's where I think Starseed has come from from her, and then other people too, but also new earth children there's many terms for the same kind of thing.

Carrie:

I was recently watching a presentation on YouTube. I might have to send you guys the link for it. It's kind of interesting. It was describing star seed children. If you're drawn to understanding the universe, if you feel like maybe you don't belong on earth, if you have dreams of being on another planet, that's the idea of star seed children. And then indigo children. I believe Dolores Cannon had mentioned the waves had started coming in the late 50s, early 60s, I think was when original indigo children were coming and they are coming with a passion to help save the Earth. Basically, they can be very passionate. They oftentimes, I think, have like blue eyes or bright round eyes is an idea I think.

Carrie:

I've heard about indigo children and then crystal children is one that I feel like might be me, and it's more of the light worker, healer pieces of wanting to spread love, kindness, connect with others and help people to raise their energy vibrations. And I am wondering now this is my idea is our people like us? Maybe Indigo children, crystal or star seed? Or new Earth? Maybe our era? Born in the 80s, 90s? That's me. Maybe we were here and we have been on this path in our own way so that way we could raise these kids.

Carrie:

This next era coming in and I've been seeing it's getting stronger with every generation, every generation like my mom was definitely a change maker in her own way and did it. Worked with kids and pediatrics as a nurse, and so she guided me in her way to create me as who I am, to help guide me in who I am, being open to spirituality Right. So now I'm open, now I am understanding how to help my kids stay connected. I've been hearing I do a lot of intuitive journaling. I love doing that and I've been hearing these kids coming. Today we give them labels because we don't know how to describe them.

Carrie:

We don't necessarily know how to help them, even with labels. I've been to therapists and I've done a lot of OT and stuff with my kiddos. Like let's help them be in their bodies, let's teach them tools for when they feel over reactive in this world, when they feel their impulse control challenges, how do we help them? And I've gone through it so much with my 10 year old and my almost seven year old that people are now saying like well, I think you've hit all the therapy tools you've done. Like you know some of the cognitive behavioral therapy, some of the OT. Like I think you've hit all the therapy tools You've done. Like you know some of the cognitive behavioral therapy, some of the OT. Like I think you have all the tools in your pocket. I don't know what's left. I'm like, well, okay, thank you, universe for telling me it's now up to energy work, energy healing. You know these, these holistic techniques.

Carrie:

I'm looking at a classic records and um, all these pieces to help my kids to connect and I keep hearing from the universe we need to help these kids, neurodiverse or not, highly sensitive, empaths, born gifted and talented and quirky, help these kids stay true to who they are by teaching them how to stay connected, teaching, empowering them with the gifts that they're born with, because otherwise, when they're so sensitive, it can be easy to put these layers of protection on us as we're becoming adults. I did that myself. I put these layers of protection and then it was through, like what I call my parenting spiritual awakening, that I reconnected with myself to then become a better parent, and now I'm parenting my kids from my heart, and my kids are so much happier when I'm not my neurotic self.

Lauren:

I feel like that's some part of masking, though, too right, Like we learn to. How do I?

Frank:

fit in. We learned how to conform.

Lauren:

Yeah, how do I fit in Our generation to conform? Yeah, how do I fit in, how do I seem more normal?

Frank:

I just turned 40. You're 43.

Lauren:

Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm adding up.

Frank:

The world knows now You're how old Roy?

Carrie:

80s babies?

Lauren:

Yes totally and masking.

Carrie:

that's a neurodiverse term. But yeah, yeah, how but? Yeah, many of us are just sensitive and masking, because that's what this world wants us to be. That's the box of a human that I'm supposed to smile right now and I'm supposed to put myself out there to make friends, even though I just want to like lay in my corner and drink some chai tea. A cozy blanket, connect, an intuitive journal.

Frank:

Like yeah, that's a form of masking. Yeah, so like 100 like definitely feels like the lesson right now in raising kids in this, in this period of time, is is helping them connect to their, their innate authenticity and whatever they're all about, and showing them how that can fit in anywhere. Um, god, the I we talk about so frequently, like how the guardrails from when we were growing up it was that you must stay in your lane and do not deviate. And now, like the way we're raising our kids, it's like you like that. Let's go try it, let's go do it. I don't know the first thing about it, but I'm going to learn with you.

Frank:

Like that kind of thing, it seems so important.

Carrie:

So one of my phrases is change makers, raising change makers right we're helping them to feel empowered enough to make a change, and there's so many of our 80s babies that are making a change, breaking free of the box yeah, stopping the, the generational trauma, you know, and almost like reparenting ourselves.

Lauren:

I've heard that that term too. So, for people who any of our listeners because this isn't a parenting podcast um, I know some of our listeners aren't parents how would you what's like a good suggestion for people who are like on the precipice of like having kids? But maybe you know if there's any suggestion or recommendation for those people who maybe need to do some of the inner work?

Carrie:

I mean being open to, to receiving challenges too. Right that I know that sounds crazy. Like my term for this year is light me up. It's taking my challenges and then being okay, seeing that I need to learn, heal and grow from these challenges. So being okay with things being hard and then accepting that we are always learning right. We're never like I thought when I was becoming a parent, like I have this, I've got this, I've already studied six years for this, I'm ready. No, no, no, no, carrie, you were just starting out Like this was a huge transition and no matter what transitioning you're going through right Getting a new job, buying your first house or, you know, moving in with somebody, like whatever path you're in and those in those transitions in your life noticing your mind, body, spirit connection.

Carrie:

How am I feeling in this moment? Do I feel like this is a good change? Am I completely fear-based in this change? That mind-body connection is something so helpful to understand and that's something I've been teaching my kids too. Is that mind-body connection piece and I can go into that further. But if we're focusing on the younger generations right now, journaling has been so amazing. I had a person on my show that really specialized in inner guidance and it was amazing to hear like or not inner guidance, sorry, inner child. It was amazing to hear it's not going to be a one and done, fix it. It's learning to heal, grow, change. It's learning to accept those challenges and then also seeing how to tune into yourself. Do you feel, do you feel a sacral? I don't know if you guys have heard that term. Do you hear a sacral, yes or no?

Carrie:

Do you, you know, and then using those sacral yes, sacral no, to understand, like is there something I need to work on from my childhood that's making this worse is is there, um, something I've learned to make, to heal and grow from in this moment? Um, and then a huge piece, especially for those 20 year olds that can get outside. Nature is huge, huge. I mean, we don't have the resistant 10 year old not wanting to go out in the snow so you can connect so profoundly when you're in nature, and my highly sensitive kids, when we can get them out into nature. I've had my kid go from. Oh, life is so intense. This body, just mom's making me get outside and put shoes on and I just want to lay here and watch TV. And then he's outside, walking along a river, going this is the best day ever.

Carrie:

Yes, nature, that connection. Take your shoes off, stand in the sun for three minutes and just breathe like connecting with ourselves. You need that now and forever. And once you learn it, yeah, you could be a spiritual guru. You're still human, you're still going to come back to that brain, you're still going to get caught up in those moments. So, understanding those pieces of what can bring you back your spirituality, nature, saying affirmations and prayers, looking at tuning in? When do I need to work on some of those inner child healing? When do I need to use what modalities do I like to help myself reconnect?

Frank:

yeah, it's such a good point, great. Just keep saying that, like, even if you're a spiritual guru, you're gonna. You got it, you got a human brain yeah, it's a. It's a it's a sloppy, wet meat thing that you we used to think out of and it's not great and, like you're never going to have all the answers, it's a journey You're going to mess up, especially when you have kids.

Carrie:

Man, you're going to mess up, it's rough, yeah, and each phase that that kid is going to go through it can bring up, like we said, that inner child pieces. Each phase, you know, you think you get through the baby phase You're like, oh God, they're sleeping through the night, like I can recharge, and then a new phase comes.

Frank:

Let's say you don't have kids yet, but you're really, you want to have kids one day. You're preparing, um, those moments that you have that make you feel uncomfortable, that you just ignore those, those during your, your personal challenges, that you just you push off to the side, right that that stuff and I'm telling you everybody, from my perspective now, that stuff that you've pushed off, that you think you don't have to deal with, those little things are going to come back in the form of issues with your kids, and not because of some, like spiritual, like crazy, like you gave them your problems you might have, but like they're going to go through the same things from a young age and you are going to have to confront those. And now the stakes are higher. It's way better to deal and get yourself right in the moment. So you've got to have that that. What I've learned is called interoception. You've got to have that inner awareness of your processes and work through them Love that?

Carrie:

Yeah, it's that. I mean interoception. I haven't heard that term. I love it. Um, and I. It's something. The mind body connection is what I call it with my kids mind body spirit. Um, I've been teaching my kids. I started to do some little clips on YouTube for a while because I feel like parents need like ideas of how we can bring it down to a seven and a 10 year old level.

Carrie:

And you know, even just when we're outside playing with chalk and drawing in the driveway, I'll be like what color are you drawn to? Which one does your body feel like it needs right now? And then I'll use an example like green. Really I'm going to use the green.

Carrie:

Green makes me think of trees and grass, the breeze in the summer, like just you know, relating it back to a spiritual version, being in that moment and also teaching them that mind, body, spirit connection and making choices and connecting ourselves. And then prayers and affirmations has been one I feel like a lot of my listeners have been really drawn to lately and a lot of my prayers I've been teaching for parents and for parents to use for themselves, for parents to use with their kids or for adults to use for adults is, um, connecting ourselves back to universe, spirit, god, whatever source, whatever we believe in, connecting ourselves back so that way we can see whatever challenge we're going through in the, in the positive version, we can switch our idea into. I'm seeing this happen in the way that you help me make it happen, but feeling ourselves realigned and reconnected and trying to help kids so that they don't have the subconscious programming that a lot of us have as adults.

Lauren:

So what's it like? Do you have a? Do you have like a few prayers or affirmations that you that are go-tos?

Carrie:

And I don't actually. I pull them up each day as I'm going through and you know my favorite place to say them, so I'll come up with my own. So you can use that structure like thank you, god, universe source, for helping me to reconnect with my heart's desires so that I can pick my kids up and stay grounded today after school.

Lauren:

That's nice. Yeah, that's great.

Carrie:

Something like that. And you know my favorite place to say it as a parent this might not reflect for everybody, but at pickup. So I get there a little bit early. My kids, I have to drive there to pick them up. I sit in the car, I meditate for a few minutes with my sunglasses on so nobody knows what I'm doing in the car. And then I texted texted myself that affirmation. So I pull it up on my phone, I read it out loud and then, you know, I say it a couple of times and then I meditate for another minute and then I am empowered energetically. I'm ready for whatever comes out of those doors, right? Sometimes it's hey, mom, I want to hug. Sometimes it's oh, mom, why are you like? You know, you don't know what's coming out after that day at school.

Lauren:

Yeah, that's great.

Frank:

You know man, okay, the. You were talking about, like you know, the backing up just a second. You were talking about backing up just a second subconscious programming. I was realizing that in that moment, when she said that, that I sometimes refer to my subconscious programming as being realistic. But, in actuality, it's a deep pessimism. I'm going to hear about this later in this one.

Carrie:

Um, I think having affirmations to do. Yeah, I mean.

Frank:

I mean deep realizations in front of my wife is very dangerous sometimes, but it's fine.

Lauren:

Um later like a little yeah.

Carrie:

A little witch Deep dive later. Yeah, It'd be like taped on your bathroom mirror.

Lauren:

Yeah Well, Frank have you said any affirmations lately?

Frank:

Anyway, the, and then you're talking about like, like doing these, these preparations for your yourself to like basically have the, the energetics room to be available for whatever your kids might bring into your energetic field, right, yeah, you have to at least give yourself, at the very least, like a windows of like 10 minutes at a time just to set yourself straight. If you feel like you got to do this now. There's no time for anything. You have no time for your kids and their emotions. You're gonna, you're setting up a tower of cards that will fall.

Lauren:

Yeah, they can feel that. They can feel that. They can feel that, man, you're like, you know, kind of in your head or you're in a rush and they're like what I just had my own day what's up with you, you know, and they're not even saying it. They don't even know how, how, how to say it, because they don't understand it yet, and especially with kids, we're like, you know, for various reasons.

Frank:

People say that, like you know, the older you get, time seems like shorter right. But, with kids every moment. You know, relative to the length of their lives, every moment is the most important moment and just it only takes a second to connect and I realized when I, when I slow down and just take that second to do what you're saying, putting myself in the right mindset to address and connect, it, can change the day.

Carrie:

Yeah.

Frank:

It can change the day.

Carrie:

Understanding your energetic space and then also like teaching like it's a Dan Dr Dan Siegel, it's one of the child psychologists. He recommends name it to tame it right Naming naming where you are energetically sharing that example with your kids and then also naming where they are energetically being receptive to where they are. Sometimes you have to let things go, like maybe you don't go to ninja tomorrow, ninja class in the afternoon and yes, it's costly. As a parent You're like, oh God, it goes 30 bucks. But yeah, letting things go when you see your kids need to recharge and they don't have the space for it. One thing somebody taught me recently which was really cool was when our kids sometimes have those moments of eruption, you can ask them is this your energy or someone else's?

Frank:

yeah, yeah we say that all the time. That's a big lauren question, these kids I learned about for myself.

Lauren:

and then I started realizing, like you know, if I'm empathic and frank's empathic, our kids obviously are too. So you know, having them be really aware of like wait, am I carrying somebody else's stuff around, it's been super helpful and just empowering, especially our daughter, because she's older, our son's three, um, empowering her to say like this is not, these are not my emotions or I release anything that doesn't belong to me, and that's like a really helpful empowering mantra to say Are you guys?

Carrie:

I um, I don't know if you guys have read psychic psychology. It's, I'm, I'm, oh gosh, I'm been dreaming it right now, and it has a bunch of um guided meditations and it talks a lot about energy work, and one of them is returning your kids energy to themselves from you and then pulling your energy from your kids for yourself, and it's recharging each person in their own way. It was really cool.

Frank:

That's great. Oh, that's interesting.

Carrie:

Yeah.

Frank:

Psychic psychology.

Carrie:

Yeah, they use the idea of imagining a rose in front of you and you picture the person sitting across from you and they have a rose in front of them. The rose is the opposite. So, like my rose is in front of my kiddo, if I'm imagining my kid and then I picture the energy going on to that rose and I picture my energy coming back onto the rose that's in front of me, and then each person picks up their own rose that's in front of them, right? So I pick up my rose that's at my feet and I hold it and I absorb my energy back into me and my kiddo absorbs their energy back into them. And some people are like, well, I'm supposed to be connected to my kid, right, like you're still connected, but it's important to understand our own energy and for them to understand their own energy and how you know to to separate that at times yeah, yeah, that separation has to occur, especially when you are not being your best self and, in certain moments, well, yeah, we also say we have, we have our daughter.

Lauren:

repeat, I call my energy back to me, but I really like this visual of the rose. That's so cool.

Carrie:

Yeah, yeah. And then they said you pour golden light back in to recharge each person. You picture it on them and on you, so you're recharging every cell in your body. And then they always have you tip and invert to let out any extra energy.

Frank:

Like a cup or something.

Carrie:

Yeah, like you're tipping the cup to pour out the extra energy that you don't need. Like you filled your body up. Every cell in your body is filled again and they don't use that term, but my friend uses it in Qigong and I love it so filling every cell back up and then you pour out the extra energy because you don't need that. It was interesting.

Lauren:

Huh, I like that there's some happening in this conversation.

Carrie:

I love that book.

Lauren:

That's so cool.

Carrie:

Yeah, so yeah.

Lauren:

I mean, I feel like I'm going'm gonna, I'm gonna really be thinking about the control thing. How, like certain kids just our daughter is like real, um, oh, how do I not label it? She's spirited, she's, she's strong-willed. A bad thing to say yeah, is that?

Carrie:

a bad label. I say gifted, spirited and highly sensitive is how I okay, yeah, she, she likes to know the rules.

Lauren:

She's, she's a little capricorn, so she likes to know what the rules are. Yeah, and she follows them really well, especially at school. At home, she's like why?

Lauren:

and like I don't want to do that right now she likes to look under the hood like, yeah nothing, nothing at face value yeah, but the idea of like, trying to rethink about it in terms of like, how do I follow your flow a little bit better as opposed to yeah? Because when she was younger it was like oh, we're, you know, we're trying to like standard parenting, things of like, well, if you don't do this, I'm gonna take away this toy or whatever.

Frank:

And she it's so easy to fall back on too.

Carrie:

It's easy to go back to how. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you guys have done the choice of two, so, like you, are the parent is the choice yeah, and then also one that I've done is like the roomba is going to be coming around today.

Carrie:

I'm going to set it up this afternoon, so I really need you to pick up your room by the time the roomba gets there. And you know, it was interesting because I was like you need to pick up your room, I'm turning on the room button. He was like, and then 10 minutes later, I'm like I'm going to try this again. Um, can you have your room picked up by the Roomba? Yes, sir, yeah, mom, sure, okay, well, the Roomba is going to come. I'm going to turn it on this afternoon, so you have that time for you to get it done. And as soon as I took off that, off that, it was like that power, right, or yeah it was like do it.

Carrie:

Like yeah, I challenge you to pick up your room. And as soon as that was released it wasn't that resistant. Like, oh, I have to beat mom down, yeah.

Lauren:

I was like oh yeah.

Carrie:

I can do that, mom. Yeah, whoa Okay. So not having like you have to do it immediately, but like some flexibility, like you are in charge of when you pick up your room.

Lauren:

today it's so I love that.

Frank:

Here's here's like. The big conundrum is that, like the majority of our trauma as adults comes from our lack of autonomy that we had as kids. And now that we are adults, we get to make certain choices and then you have kids and like you don't. What's the balance between expressing your own autonomy and controlling them? You know?

Lauren:

what I mean.

Frank:

I'm always, constantly, especially with the way the things are going in the States right now. I'm always like, oh, I really don't like authoritarianism, and yet my house is. I'm always expressing. There's a clear hierarchy here, kids yeah you know what I mean right, who are we?

Carrie:

a spirit to say that they are not here to teach us too, yeah, that we know more than them? My kid can spout 85 facts about orcas. I do not know. So you know what ego? Right, where is that ego coming from? I'm powerful than more powerful, because I can drive a car and you can't. So maybe you've been reincarnated way more than me, maybe you know more, maybe you know. There's this idea of yeah. And then I think there's one other thing I forgot to share with you guys is I really love letting our kids find their gifts and helping them to try different things and helping them to find what resonates in their heart.

Carrie:

Yeah, so that was one other thing I forgot to share today.

Frank:

No, I love that. That's great, that's amazing yeah.

Lauren:

That's so funny, the soul thing. Like our son is three and like it's just he's so funny and he's so. He has so much personality and we're like you have been on this planet so many times Like he's just one of those you know. They say old soul and we're like, yeah, you know more than I do.

Frank:

Clearly three years old I mean, we've talked to a psychic who let me know that in our family of four, I am the youngest soul, which is funny because, yeah, but, and the oldest being our youngest, our youngest son is supposed to be the, the oldest of all of us yeah, that's beautiful I swear the my daughter.

Lauren:

like when she was like two. She would like have her her like sippy cup of milk or whatever and I'd lay on her chest and she'd like pet my hair and I was like I swear she was my mom in another life or something. Oh, it's so true.

Carrie:

Those those um what is it called Soul families that? Have been together for and when I met my husband, it felt like we knew each other forever. It was like it felt like I came home when I met him. I've always had this feeling with my daughter, who loves animals, that we lived on a farm and I love one room schoolhouses and I was a teacher, so I always was like we must've been on a prairie at some point. Oh, that's fun.

Frank:

He loves farm animals and horses and would always yell nay prairie at some point.

Carrie:

Oh, that's fun. She loves farm animals and horses and would always yell nay, nay, when she was 18 months old. So like it comes in. But yeah. I'm going to send you guys that YouTube that talks about like star seed and all of those. I played it for my kids, and both my kids and my husband. All three of them were like I was a star seed. And then I said what do you think I was? And they're all like everyone said Crystal, you're a crystal child. Oh wow.

Frank:

Oh that's fun.

Lauren:

Oh, that's yeah, We'll check that out.

Frank:

Maybe we'll post that for free on our Patreon too, so everyone can see what we're talking about?

Lauren:

Yeah, we'll link it.

Frank:

Cool.

Lauren:

Yeah, carrie.

Frank:

Go for it, babe.

Lauren:

Listen to Carrie's Heart to Heart Parents podcast and follow on all of your social medias would tell us all of your links.

Carrie:

Yeah, yeah. So on all the social media YouTube, instagram, facebook I'm heart to heart parents podcast and then my website is heart to heart lifecom. You can get to Apple, spotify, youtube Through those.

Lauren:

Amazing, awesome. Thank you so much.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for hanging out with us today.

Carrie:

Yes, guys, I hope you have a great rest of your day.

Lauren:

Thank you, you too, talk to you soon.

Frank:

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