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062: Grief, Heritage, and Mediumship // with Aaron Harris

• Clairvoyaging • Season 1 • Episode 62

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Join us as we chat with Aaron Harris, a psychic medium and grief companion, who shares his compelling journey from numbing pain with substances to embracing his calling as a medium. Aaron recounts the pivotal moment while editing a documentary about a young man named Tyler, where he received and shared spirit messages that validated his abilities and changed the course of his life. This transformation led him to use his gifts to comfort those grappling with grief, offering insights into the support and healing he provides.

Our conversation delves deeper into mediumship's fascinating intersection with brain science and intuition. Aaron shares how trauma might unlock psychic potentials, suggesting that everyone harbors intuitive gifts waiting to be tapped. We explore the enigmatic connection between brain lateralization and medium activities, shedding light on the universal nature of intuition and practical ways to engage the brain's creative side. With personal anecdotes, Aaron illustrates how overthinking can hinder intuition and offers creative approaches to harness these inner abilities, from music and editing to even building with Legos.

We explore the delicate dynamics of spiritual guidance and the unique roles of spirit guides and ancestral connections, and Aaron explains how cultural and ancestral influences shape his spiritual practice. Tune in to this profound exploration of how spiritual practices can foster personal growth, support in caregiving, and offer healing guidance through life’s challenging transformations.

To learn more about Aaron or to work with him:

Visit: https://aaronharrislive.com/

Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aaronharrislive

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Lauren:

Hello, in this episode we talked to Aaron Harris, a psychic medium and grief companion. We talked about his spirit guides, the work he does with clients experiencing grief and his journey to mediumship, which is a beautiful story. I'm Lauren Leon.

Frank:

And I'm Frank.

Lauren:

We are a married couple learning how to develop our own intuition, and this is episode 62 of Clear Voyaging our own intuition. And this is episode 62 of claire voyaging.

Frank:

Wayfeather media presents claire voyaging what's going on, hey everybody, how we doing today I hope you're having a great day I hope you had a great week thus far yes, I hope it's wonderful and I hope you are wonderful.

Lauren:

That's a lot of hopes and it's all for you we wish the best for you, and nothing less.

Frank:

Welcome back.

Lauren:

Guys, we have a good episode today.

Frank:

We do have a very nice episode, I mean they're all great.

Lauren:

All our guests have been incredible. Not a clunker in the bunch.

Frank:

Wow.

Lauren:

Do they say that?

Frank:

No, clunker, I don't think so.

Lauren:

Okay, well, I mean, we just have these. Guests are amazing, it's been great. Today it's Aaron Harris. But before we get to that, I want to remind you that there are some new little bits on our Patreon. Some of them are free for everybody and some are for the paid members, our patrons. How?

Frank:

much is that.

Lauren:

Are you sure you want to know? I don't, just I know. Okay, it's four dollars per month. How many of you are tired of hearing that?

Frank:

oh, he's gonna do the thing again oh, it's that one again that sucks. Did you? Did you know?

Lauren:

this is the worst part of every episode the intro no me, oh just frank is the worst part of every episode. The intro no me, oh, just frank is the worst part of every episode anyway don't talk about yourself. That way, frank's been getting notes from his dad. Don't talk bad about yourself.

Frank:

That's true. That's true. He's only been saying it for 40 years.

Lauren:

It's true, I mean you gotta listen at some point.

Frank:

We've got a nice episode today. Let's talk about Aaron.

Lauren:

Yes, aaron is awesome, like such a calming presence. Yeah, so kind. Just I don't know there was just like this, this sweetness to the way he speaks and he's just lighthearted and smiles a lot. I really enjoyed talking to him.

Frank:

And the gateway to his like psychic experience occurred in the editing bay, which is something that I can only hope for in the future.

Lauren:

Yeah, that was a cool. It's a really cool story, yeah, so let's just get to it.

Frank:

Yeah.

Lauren:

Cause we don't have any more updates for you, and sometimes it's just nice to not hear us chit chat.

Frank:

And yet here we are, aren't we cute?

Lauren:

Okay, play Aaron Harris and I hope you enjoy. Let her rip Aaron Hi. Thank you for joining us. On Claire Voyaging Hi, we love to hear everyone's backstory. Yeah, of course. Can you tell us how'd you get into doing mediumship and Aaron Harris Live.

Aaron:

Yeah. So let's see, I've always been super duper, like just into, I would say, like the metaphysical or supernatural aspect of um, ghosts and all those cryptid aspects. Um, and then back in 2019, my cousin tragically passed away and I was opened, I would say that way, um, curiosity just kind of pushed me into that situation and it really opened me up to spirit and what life and passing means and also, I would say, the cruelty that human can be to another human. And then, through that trauma, I started to cope with substances to kind of numb those feelings from spirit, because I didn't really understand the deeper anxiety that was like coming through and then I shut it off completely. I didn't want to deal with that other side of afterlife yet.

Aaron:

And then jump to 2021, I got into videography and directing and studio set type stuff and I was working on a documentary called Tyler and it's about a 16 year old who self inflicted. And as I was editing his documentary, I kept getting validation after validation and I was really confused. I was working on the memorial scene and I kept getting I hope they know that I'm okay, I am still here, I hope they know how much I miss them and I was like what the hell? And so I opened up a Google doc and I just started typing like everything I heard, because I was just like kind of there's a weird space to be in to not understand. I was listening to spirit at the time, yeah. So then I just started typing and typing and then I read it back to myself and I'm like am I talking to him? And I sat there kind of like what the hell. And I told my friend at the time I was like hey, like what is this? And she's like what the heck? That's weird. You should tell his mom.

Aaron:

So I reached out to Tyler's mom and I said hey, like just kind of this weird moment last night while I was editing the film I don't know what it is and I read it to her and then I asked Tyler. I said, well, can I have a validation? That would really like stand out. And he said said, well, ask my mom what Ducky means. So I was like, okay, amanda, what does Ducky mean? And then she's like no fucking way, like Ducky was my brother's nickname.

Aaron:

Only really Tyler would know that in the moment, kind of thing. And I was like oh, okay, and she's like Erin, you're a medium. Let me put you in contact with my friend. I was like, oh okay, so I was just kind of thrown into this world of spirit and afterlife. I mean I watched you know, I would watch theresa caputo's long island medium and that's really only at the time, the only really mainstream medium that I really knew of besides Matt Brazier and all those others. And I talked to her friend, erica, and she told me about my spirit guide and that I'll be able to find him soon. And so jump, a couple of days later I was like really curious what that meant, because at the time I didn't know. So I started researching.

Aaron:

I am Chippewa indigenous.

Aaron:

At the time I didn't know this yet, but I looked into, I was just typed in, like because I had an image of what he looked like in my mind, and so I typed in Native American chiefs and the first picture that really drew me was Rocky Boy and he's a Chippewa chief from Montana and he has a really interesting backstory.

Aaron:

But as I was doing some research, I found an art gallery for youth and I'm really connected with bear and it's called Makwa, and so it shows a list. I screenshotted it all. I'll send it to you guys later, but I screenshotted the list of all the different animals and the spirit meanings. It popped up with makwa and next to it it said youth suicide. And so from there I was like what the hell? Because it was specifically rocky boy reservation art gallery for youth. And then to link those two together, I realized, oh, he put me on like this kind of path here to kind of click everything together. And now that I look back I see all the puzzle pieces have aligned and then jump to 2021. I found my birth family and it turns out I'm chipolo jibwe, african nation native.

Aaron:

So those puzzle pieces just all clicked in together, like with Rocky Boy. And then, through my spiritual journey, as I got in touch more with my Native roots, I knew I was Native. Since I was a child I've been very involved in Native culture, really loved and enjoyed the history points of it too. And then as I just kept getting into more spirituality it started to evolve into more of a Native American spiritualism and looking into like the culture, aspects of afterlife and then, working with my guides and everything, it just really kind of turned into that. And then the mediumship.

Aaron:

I've always had a caring heart. I've been a caregiver since probably like 13, 14 with my great grandmother and from there I started to work at facilities and I always got put in the dementia unit because I don't know, the men just work in the dementia unit. So I always had a soft spot for dementia and hospice care and I thought maybe going on to like hospice as a travel nurse or something with that. But uh, my path led me here. So now I work as a medium. I do this full time. I would say I do spiritual advising, so I listen to guides and get higher guidance. My main forte is grief, companionship and mediumship. So I kind of combine the two when I do my mediumship. So my main focus is grief. So everything I talk about and learn has been through spirit. I've never really taken any classes or mentoring. I just like to listen to my guides and I just kind of spew what they spew and that's what I do. That's me in a nutshell.

Frank:

That's great.

Lauren:

That's so cool.

Frank:

Real quick. I'm sorry if I missed it. Did your main spirit guide ever come through?

Aaron:

Yeah, rocky Boy, he does yes.

Aaron:

Oh okay, yeah, I have seven spirit guides that I work with on a daily basis and how do they come through for you? So I use Claire Sentience and Claire Cognizant so I'm able to. I would say I also the way that I listen to spirit. I channel on my left hand side. So when I do my readings and when I work I always look to the left. Don't know why that is. I have a couple of theories. But then when I channel I don't hear outside my peripheral. It's always comes through on the right and that's how I hear is on the inside.

Aaron:

The way that I hear spirit is I get names, numbers, dates, memory triggers, colors, auras and healing messages. If you ever watch my TikTok lives, you'll hear me say that a million times to get the message out there. I do get apparitions once in a while, but usually I will get orbs or colors a lot of the time. That's kind of how I hear spirit. They do come through very clear. I call myself telephone to heaven because the way that I listen it's just like a phone call. I'm very emotion-based when I do my readings, so I connect through emotions of spirit. I've been told well, and I've also heard other people's mention, spirit doesn't feel emotion, but I feel like this work is so emotion-based. How could it not be read through emotions? It's very interesting, very, very interesting.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah, that is funny. I've never heard anybody say that spirit doesn't feel emotions. It feels like that's maybe all they can feel. All this spiritual, spiritual work is all in emotions, are all vibration based and like so it's. It's funny that I haven't heard anyone say that before. So you should punch him in the face next time you hear that.

Aaron:

It's so interesting. It's so interesting. And then there's other aspects to mediumship as well, with with the emotions and energy and all that stuff.

Lauren:

Yeah, I mean yeah, Like getting the the emotions of how that spirit was as a human. You know, sometimes they're like, oh, they're coming in really angry, or yes, yes, yes, exactly. Like they were. They were a really happy person. So that's so yeah in. So that's so. Yeah, that's interesting. Did um, did your cousin ever come through to you like I know you kind? Of blocked you blocked that out a little bit, but did you ever get any?

Aaron:

so I've had him come through a handful of times, um, mainly with his energy. That's the hard thing I will connect with, but I haven't fully allowed myself yet to fully hear him. It's kind of the trauma and my own mind kind of blocking that energy from really coming through. I've had moments and blips where I've been able to connect, but for the most part I keep him more in the back.

Frank:

I haven't fully just allowed myself yet that is interesting, having you know the show where we talk to so many like deeply intuitive people. It's funny when it seems like when you're not quite ready to you know, dive deeply into that trauma, it seems like they still come through every once in a while, just give you like a quick tip of the hat, as in like we'll talk when you're ready kind of thing.

Aaron:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. I know that they're always around my cousin and then just other loved ones and family members as well, but for the most part I don't know. I try to keep that separate with my own journey of healing and sobriety and all that fun stuff.

Frank:

Yeah. Are you still close with the family that raised you before you met your biological family? Oh, yeah, yeah, so you always knew that you had Native American in you.

Aaron:

Oh, I had a feeling. Yeah, my adopted mom really really had this deep inkling that I was native American, and so we were just like, oh, I wonder. And then to have that revelation of like, oh yeah, you're Chippewa. I was like, oh, what the heck. And then I had registered family with a black earth nation out in Minnesota. So it's pretty cool. Yeah, really cool.

Frank:

So with your adopted family? Um, how did they react when you came out as as a, as a intuitive person?

Aaron:

Well, let's see, I've had a few coming outs, but the first one with the intuitive aspect there, um, I mean, they didn't seem to care. They kind of had a. My mom always kind of knew. I mean, I don't, I wouldn't even really say it was a coming out cause I just started to get to work Right as soon as I figured out this path. My partner, really I was struggling with jobs a lot of the time, so I didn't really have my sense of purpose yet. This is when I was like 26, 27. And she was like you know, why don't you try mediumship? And I was like, okay, so I really put myself out there from the get-go with my mediumship of this is what I'm doing and I'm going to just try to see where it goes. I started working on Facebook a little bit and that's where it snowballed into going into TikTok and all the other platforms. But for the coming out aspect, I mean my mom and my family, I don't know, they never seem to really mind. I don't think they do at all.

Frank:

So you would say that you're like fairly supported in that.

Aaron:

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, that's cool. My nana was super duper interested in this work.

Frank:

Yeah, you would say that you're like fairly supported in that. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Aaron:

Especially my Nana. My Nana was super duper interested in this work. I like to think that that kind of gave her some support with her passing and she'd always ask me questions about what I do and what clients I see and what spirit life is like and who I connect with. So I like to think that gave her some sense of comfort before she was.

Lauren:

Oh, that's really cool.

Aaron:

Yeah.

Lauren:

To be able to like give that, like sense of ease, like you know, transitioning out of human form.

Aaron:

So I like to think that that really helped her with the calmness before she passed. So that's one of the interesting, that's so sweet, that's huge.

Frank:

That's such important work you having your first real mediumship experience in the editing bay. I wrote down. I wrote down editing bay medium, being like in the zone sometimes and just turning off your brain. I could imagine how you would suddenly receive things that you might. How long were you receiving messages without even really recognize it before you finally decided to open up that Google Doc?

Aaron:

So, surprisingly, right away, as soon as I started to hear like these other, they sounded like because I didn't. I couldn't differentiate at first. Now I can, but I was kind of like it's not my own thoughts, because why would I be feeling the thoughts of what it was like to go through a suicide? You know deeper moments with spirit? And so I was like huh. And so right away I'm like let me type this down because this might be important.

Aaron:

I typed, I think I put timestamps on it too. I think it was like I channeled him for like two hours or something crazy. Oh, wow, I didn't realize, because time kind of goes away when I do this work. So, yeah, I have like six, seven pages of just notes in my google of just everything I heard from him. That's amazing. But I didn't know. I. And then the next day too, like I was telling my uh, the, the main producer of the documentary, and we ended up talking for like six hours about it because she was just so curious about him and and what I was doing. I didn't know. I was like on fucking adrenaline I guess. Yeah, at the end of it I crashed out. I was so tired. But um, at the end of the documentary. There's a little secret there. Uh anita, the producer asked me does tyler have a message for the film? And so tyler was able to put a message of his own at the end of the film that they typed in. Nobody really knows that, but now they do so, yes, that's amazing.

Frank:

What was the name of the film is tyler?

Aaron:

yeah, it's just called tyler, okay and this mediumship, just really I got so like absorbed by it because it's so interesting and I mean it's my life 24, 7, unfortunately not unfortunately, but you know I hear it 24, 7 now. So it's it really just is taken over in that way where it's more of even a passion than the film.

Lauren:

But eventually, I want to combine the two.

Aaron:

That's my next big idea here in my brain is to combine about that.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah when you get the calling for mediumship and any kind of like psychic work, like it's uh, it's not a silent, soft call. From what I understand, it's like this is happening now no, they throw it in my face.

Aaron:

They're like it's right here, you just gotta listen and connect with the right people. Yeah, no, that's, that's one of the things I uh. Yeah, I put a lot on my plate. That's another part of mediumship that goes into mental health and mediumship.

Frank:

I would say yeah, yeah, such an important part of it, so you said like it's kind of constant.

Lauren:

now, do you have have you figured out like your off switch?

Aaron:

Oh, yeah, yeah, so I call it my. It's like a red light, green light kind of thing, where it's like green light I'm working, red light I'm not. But the parallels are so thin with turning it off and on. It's just kind of like when I'm with my partner or just cooking or doing personal stuff, you know it will lessen lesson, but when I'm working is it's loud and and sometimes even that parallel will cross anyways. Um, so say, I'm shopping and I'll get like this really big pit here in my chest and I'm just like I know it's spirit but like I don't want to answer the phone call because it's like I'm trying to, you know, spend time with family or do stuff yeah I kind of have to force myself to disassociate almost, yeah, when I'm out there in the world.

Aaron:

Uh, so my partner knows, especially if I give her a look, she intuitively knows like, oh shit, he's feeling spirit. Feeling spirit Like we got to hurry up and go Cause it's going to be like I just get really anxious or snippy and I don't try to be, but it's just like if I don't find that right person, then it's like going to vomit out. You know, and I've done that before, where I've I've Teresa Caputo to a few people and it's been very interesting. Oh yeah, I love very interesting. Oh yeah, I love that term. I don't know, I just use it. It's easy, that's funny, um, but yeah, no, I've traced a few people and it's always been a hundred.

Aaron:

But I just sometimes inside me I'm like I don't want to share because you don't know how someone's going to react to hearing. Yeah, hey, your grandma's here, she tells you she loves you. I know she passed last week. You know, like that type of stuff, you don't want to just someone who's working or doing their own thing, like that type of stuff, you don't want to just someone who's working or doing their own thing. But I've done it a few times and it's been very positive. I'll usually give a business card. I don't have them on me right now, so I'm making more, but that is one of the big things I try to keep on hand as a business card, because I don't want to interrupt someone's day. I just want to be like hey, if you want a free session with me, here you go. So that's what I've done a few times is I just give my card out. But it is really hard to not listen to that call of the void over here on my left-hand side.

Frank:

It's so interesting See, Lauren, every time I'm being kind of mean to you, it's just because I'm feeling something.

Lauren:

That's it, thank you. Wink, wink, it's spirit, it's spirit. Huh, all right, I know who to blame now. I guess I'm getting tips here. It's interesting, the brain thing. We had a.

Frank:

What brain thing.

Lauren:

Well, he said that he channels on the left.

Frank:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lauren:

Right.

Aaron:

I have a few theories. I loved it, yeah. Yeah, I have a theory of why that is.

Lauren:

Oh, theories I loved. Yeah, yeah, I have a theory of why that is. Oh, we had a um. One of our guests, jeff tarrant was, is a brain. He studies brains. I can't think of interesting brain studier studier um and he studied. Do you know, laura lynn jackson?

Aaron:

I feel like I've heard of them. Yes, Okay.

Lauren:

Anyway, she wrote a really cool book called signs, but he studied her brain. When she's doing psych, psychic work, it's on one side, and when she's doing mediumship, it's on the other side.

Aaron:

Oh, how interesting.

Lauren:

There's something to that. I don't have more information than that, cause I can't remember exactly what's your theory?

Aaron:

my theory with oh, oh boy, I did this the other night with my friend because we were just getting into it but, um, so my theory is with the right, left side.

Aaron:

So I know that the right side, this is all the creative. Our right side of the mind is creative, open, um, so that's where, like you, can go into that meditative space. And the right side is very logical thinker math. You have to make sense of the world. So I like to think that the reason why I look to the left it's also kind of like a little funnel here so my creative, open side is open anyways, all the time, 90% of the time, 99% of the time at this point, 99% of the time at this point, and so I'm thinking that with the theory is that because this is always open, my right side doesn't really have time to process the logical, analytical side of it. So then, when I'm doing mediumship, the reason why I look to the left is that is the easiest point for me to study and focus in on using my right, but the left is open anyways. Does that make sense?

Frank:

Yes, wow, make sense. Yes, wow, it does yeah.

Aaron:

So the right side is hyper-focused and really using my mathematical side to listen and like focus in on something, but I'm hearing it on the technically it's on the right, but I don't look to the right at all when I do my reads, it's always the left. Yeah, okay, so interesting.

Frank:

Yeah, this is making me. I felt the brain tangles for a second. Yeah, I know I am not. We don't want to say we're not psychic. We say we're practicing because we've been, we're practicing, we're practicing on getting better, because we've been scolded by certain mediums, because everyone's psychic.

Aaron:

Everyone's psychic, everyone's like okay, sorry, that's one of the big things that I teach my clients and my students is uh, there is no um there, it's a spectrum. There's no level of like, you're not completely closed or you're right open. Everybody, every single person on earth, has some intuitive ability to some degree, whether that's instincts or intuition or even psychic medium. Everyone has this gift. It's just opening it up and being around those like-minded individuals as well. Um, I've noticed there's also another subject here. Uh, the correlation of trauma and mediumship is also super interesting to get into.

Lauren:

Oh, there's so many subjects, and that's that's why I love this work I love the sponge, so yeah, we talk a lot about trauma healing on this, on this show.

Aaron:

Yeah yeah, big correlation, oh my god, really, yeah, it's so fascinating so hold on, let's actually I'm sorry I give you so many subjects. No it, it's fantastic. I love it Fantastic.

Frank:

So, oh, what I was going to say about my brain is that I realized that because I always talk about how heady I am and that I know that it's causing like roadblocks I'm overthinking stuff Roadblocks to connecting more deeply with my level of intuition. Intuition, and you made me realize just now that I'd say, 90% of the time I feel maybe I, you can't, you can't feel your thinking, but it feels very on the right side. You know what I mean, and I look to the right a lot just when I'm thinking, and I never like look to the left and even just doing it right now to think it feels super awkward and uncomfortable and I think I need to start firing up. I all my creativity comes in the form of, like you know, music or editing or whatever it might be, and I haven't used my left, I don't think I use the left side of my brain just when I'm existing, and I wonder what would happen well, when you're editing, you're using the left side of your brain, cause it's a creative.

Aaron:

Yeah, anything that uses your hands like building, editing, you know that opens up that left side as well.

Frank:

I do that enough. I have some things to try. You gave me some ideas, yeah.

Aaron:

Good, even Legos, even legos, even legos anything that just opens it up.

Lauren:

You know, I'm big on.

Frank:

You were a lego kid. I was a lego kid in a big way, something. So let's talk about trauma for just one second, but let's talk about trauma in the direction that you're um working in more frequently, and that is you're talking about, uh, dementia care yeah so this is always, you know, I feel like at a certain age, everyone's brains start falling apart and like in the final phase of things.

Frank:

But many, I'd say like 90 of people experience some form of, like you know, lowering brain function. That could like be just, you know, dementia, and like alzheimer's is almost a blanket statement at some point. Oh yeah, the doctors use that pretty loosely. Um, from your experience, yeah, what is going on with with dementia patients?

Aaron:

that's an interesting question. So with dementia, I know that it's like the cognitive function slows and and just the brain function just kind of turns into uh, again a puddle. This is the best word I can think of, unfortunately. Um, there is like a really interesting aspect working with dementia people where I'm like huh, I I wonder if there is the veil between spirit world and the dementia is very thin and so that's why they have those. I know that hallucinations are a scientific aspect to it, but I also wonder in a spiritual aspect if the hallucinations are actually more of them getting closer to spirit world, and I kind of wonder about that as well.

Lauren:

Yeah, um, yeah, one foot in, one foot out yeah, yeah, exactly yeah but also if, like we've because we've talked about too how we always wonder if trauma that is unhealed like kind of makes part of your brain like a lot, if you're locking away memories, I would say so process you kind of your brain kind of protects itself and starts, but without that protective layer of cognitive thinking, you know, because our brain constantly is like working hard to mask that trauma.

Aaron:

I'm wondering also if that's a good point too, that dementia maybe thins that, so then the trauma becomes more prevalent as well, I would think yeah, so what do you?

Frank:

so what do you do with patients, like, what is your work, like with them?

Aaron:

well.

Aaron:

So I haven't worked with dementia in four to five years now okay but when I was working with them, um, I would say very intuitive based, because I could understand, like their erratic and complex emotion to a t so I was kind of able to maneuver myself as a helper and carer, caregiver of them, a little easier, I would say, because I understood their wants and their needs more, where you know she can't cognitively say like I want a hug or love or affection, but the signals in my mind would be like, oh okay, she wants a hug. So kind of like that, using my own intuition of understanding what they need as a caregiver. Though mentally, emotionally it was a lot of physical work that I'm glad I left that field because it was just destroying my, not just my back but just my also. The emotional side of it was just very heavy for me and I think that's part of the intuition because we constantly had to deal with the physical passings and physical death.

Aaron:

That's kind of what I also mentioned too with, like working with spirit. Now is I get to be a caregiver with human, earth, plane people, but now I'm almost a caregiver with the aftermath of it as well, where now I get to help those who've passed um find the care and the emotional support and the healing that they need. Not not saying that this work is any tiring, because, oh lord knows, I can sleep for 12 hours and still be. But there there is that really interesting aspect to it where I see the, the same similar here parts of the healing journey, for both physical and non-physical, if that makes sense.

Frank:

Yeah.

Aaron:

Yeah.

Frank:

So you also mentioned grief companionship. Is that yeah?

Aaron:

So for grief companionship, it's more of a newer concept that I'm kind of putting into my work. I mean, my work has been grief focused since the day I started this. Just with what I've gone through in my life and knowing that community and grief support is one of the biggest things that we can, you know, build communities is really the foundation of what I'm doing. Aside from mediumship and grief help, with my grief companionship my focus is more shifted to working almost like a personal liaison for someone who's really going through that heavy grief journey. Whether that's one month, I break it down into one-on-one sessions one month, three months, six months, 12 month and 15 month, and that's kind of how I break it down Again with kind of numerology focused in there a little bit. Yeah, just a sprinkle.

Aaron:

So then the way that I work with the grief companionship is that I'm there pretty much five to seven days a week, one session a week, depending on what their needs are, and this is where I involve spirits. So with my spirit guides there is one specific for grief, her name is One who Heals and Cries, and so she does transmediumship as well as Leon, but I haven't worked with transmediumship in a while. But anyways, back to the great focus. So One who Heals and Cries really helps with the healing messages and spiritual connection on what they need in the moment. So we go through a list of goals that they want to focus on throughout the month or whatever plan they choose and then from there each session is kind of tailored to that specific goal and we could even do like a bi-weekly goal if that's a really big need.

Aaron:

But I always try to do incorporate like worksheets or journal prompts and sometimes it's just talking. So a lot of the times these clients sign up for grief companionship and all it is is just us really just hanging out talking about spirituality and what it means to grieve. And then we go through a little bit of mediumship sometimes, because when I connect with um, when I connect with them, no matter what spirit's going to come through, so our conversations always have a little bit of mediumship thrown in. Uh, it's it's really interesting to do grief.

Lauren:

It's such a really beautiful service to provide someone Like I'm just thinking about. I mean, I lost my brother 20 years ago and that's such a powerful thing. You said like sometimes it's just talking and sometimes that's all you need, you know, and going through that grief process is so lonely. It's so individual and just having someone that like is literally just there to support your grief journey is what a gift that's, so that's such a great service to provide.

Aaron:

That is really cool, yeah, and that's kind of where, like, that line really splits between mediumship and grief, because the way that I do my mediumship, I want people to know like I'm not just a medium, I also can be, you know, a companion or a friend as well. Right, yeah, right so they. I like to blend those two. Sometimes it's a little difficult to build the boundary because I I'm just, I'm friendly and I'm talkative and I love to laugh, so finding that boundary is a little difficult sometimes.

Aaron:

But for the most part I really enjoy the community aspect and really helping someone from start to finish in their grieving path. And I have people reach out to me even when I first started and I see the major shift in how they view the world and how they are going through their grief. And that's what I love to see is when they come reach back out to me and I see just or just changes on Facebook, you know, I see them going through life and they're healing and doing a lot better than they were from point A. But there are those clients that are so deep in grief that you know the changes are as apparent, you know, and that that's kind of the harder part I would say you might be the only person doing beneficial work on facebook.

Frank:

I left, I left a long time ago because I'm like this place is vitriol but I used facebook first.

Aaron:

When I got into this I was burned real bad. But facebook is a little competitive. I've noticed just groups and all that. So I don't work on facebook as much. I want to get into it again because that's where my foundation started and I built community first. But I really try to utilize all social media. I mean I have people from facebook who follow me to tiktok. I have people from Facebook who followed me to tick tock. I have people from tech talk who followed me to Facebook and now I'm trying to implement YouTube. But you know that's a whole beast in itself. So it's just. I'm just trying to get all the check boxes and and get everything set up for my plan B over here. So it's just getting these little steps to plan B is is the hardest part right now, from what I've noticed.

Lauren:

I'm very sorry. How do you energetically protect yourself from these? Like I mean, this is really heavy emotional stuff. Do you like any kind of process to just empathically kind of protect your own emotions carrying this?

Aaron:

So a lot of the time it's, um, I would say it's compartmentalization a little bit Um, but I also, I paint a lot, I draw a lot. Oh, cool, I would say, um, kind of spirits, funny. So sorry, again, it's, it's always here, but I paint a lot, I draw a lot. Uh, you know, the devil couldn't catch me but he gave me the gift of creation through copying. So I love, uh, creating art that's already been, you know, characterized or done before. So that's kind of what I do is I just love to paint and that's already been, you know, characterized or done before. So that's kind of what I do is I just love to paint, and that's really a place where I can escape. Uh, I'm with my dog partner. Uh, I'm not really outdoorsy. I probably should be um video games.

Frank:

There's no window in this room so I know it's like out there.

Aaron:

Sleeping is a really big escape. That's kind of my emotionally de-attached and I can really breathe. Yes, I do burn out quite a bit, though, and I I think that stems mostly from my own depression and my own healing that I'm doing. But the emotional impact of what I hear every single day, I don't know. I just kind of live alongside it and cope in my own ways. You know, I don't know. It's just what I go through, I guess. But that's what I would answer to that question. That's my thing. There's really no definitive. You know, I cut it off, I don't talk to anyone because my work is 24 7, so it's like right, I don't know, this is just how I'm living.

Frank:

I don't know, that's the healthiest, but it's working great now you mentioned that during your like grief companionship sessions that you kind of help people set goals sometimes. Can you give me an example of like what a goal would look like?

Aaron:

yeah.

Aaron:

So one of the goals let's see one of the goals that I've had for my clients um, and this could be grief in any way, shape and form, so this could be even someone reaching out for like, uh, they lost their job.

Aaron:

So I had a client who lost their grandmother, lost their job, was going through all these changes all at once and they really just wanted someone to help them find that purpose in life where they can move on to a different path. That would kind of almost shape their new life. I would say, you know, after loss and so like a pros and cons list of like what they enjoy, and then that's kind of how I would help pinpoint, but then also connecting with spirit, I also do Oracle cards a little bit too, but my main focus when they're like, oh, I need help with career, I'll listen with spirit, and then from there, when they're like, oh, I need help with career, I'll listen with spirit and then from there, um, like again with like the creative aspect. So a lot of the times spirit says like getting into creative mindset will help them find what they need to do in life.

Frank:

So it sounds like almost like a you help them ground themselves again.

Aaron:

Yeah, yeah, bounding and anchoring and then helping them figure out what they need to do next, that's awesome.

Lauren:

How does the one who heals and cries? Is that your guide? Yeah, how does she support this? How does she support your clients, like, how do you?

Aaron:

is it like, oh, she's coming in and like she's gonna give me a little guidance on what to say, or yes, so when I work with my spirit team oh and that also kind of goes into the protection aspect a little bit too so when I first started this and just in general, I always have asked them to bring me people of love and light and who need healing, and so that's also kind of like that protective buffer there. Yeah, so I know what I'm doing is to focus on healing. So, like how I know she's here to support the journey of healing. Um, I hear her voice, so I I definitely can hear an elderly woman speaking when I'm really tuning in to listen. A lot of the times when they're here, they're here 24-7 and they're just up in the space. It's not even that I hear a specific guidance from either, or it's just like in my soul I know, okay, this healing message is from one who heals and cries, or I know this message is from your brother, or I know this message is from Rocky Boy, and then that's kind of how I work with spirit.

Aaron:

Uh, the guidance that one who heals and cries gives, it's usually I want to say it's more of like I don't want to say healing messages, but just the way and I read in the way that I read it's just more of. You can just tell it has a higher guidance to it than just like my own self and the way that I talk and the way that I speak. Sometimes the way that she speaks will kind of be reiterated through the way that I speak, and then that's kind of where you can tell the difference in who. I'm working with.

Aaron:

Rocky boys that's not working with Rocky boys. That's not my language. Rocky boys, we're stern and harsh, but so is one who heals and cries. They tell it like it is and there's really no sugarcoating. And that's also kind of a hard part for me where I want to remain professional and also friendly, so I don't like to say the harsh words or cussing even. But you know, loved ones have their own personalities and that's who they are here, is who they are there, and so that's where that's where it's kind of difficult for me to blur that part when I do readings and connections.

Frank:

I hope that answered your question.

Aaron:

I went on a tangent and then it did Okay.

Frank:

Can you describe?

Aaron:

your, your relationship with rocky boy, oh yeah, oh boy. So he is more of, I would say I'll tell you each one. So, um, I have rocky boy. He is more of a uh, I would say more of like a protective fatherly type. But even then when I listen, I don't. I honestly I don't. That's an interesting point there. I don't fully like, hi, rocky boy, like I will do that, but I won't. I haven't in a long time. They're just all collectively here. But Rocky boy is again more of the protective nature. When I do connect with him, he does speak more gruff and more like this is what you're doing and you need to knock it off kind of feeling, whereas one who heals and cries comes through with more of the um, softer tone, healing, more of the softer tone, healing, more of a sassier note when the way she speaks oh, I do, she's so funny and she's always on Nayeli's side, my partner, she's always on her side. I'm like come on here and they all go against me when I'm, but I'm usually wrong when that happens.

Aaron:

That's funny, of course. And then and then Leonon. He's more quiet. He usually comes through with healing, through song, so he'll channel in through trance mediumship. And then there's tyler, and he comes in once in a while.

Frank:

He's not really a guide, but he's there still uh, is that the same tyler as the the doc? Uh, that's awesome.

Aaron:

He's just kind of stuck around in that way, um, I think, because it was such a, it was like the cataclyst of my spirituality and the mediumship that he just kind of stuck around. So he'll come through, um, and then I have jericho and kinetic. Uh, they. So this part is kind of where, like it gets a little woo-woo and that's even like, oh, for me a little bit uh, but jericho and kinetic, they are my celestial guardians.

Frank:

Um, so the term alien we just had a whole series of episodes about the galactic federation.

Aaron:

So yeah, so we get it so, jericho kinetic, I would say those are the. They are just so fascinating, but they, I keep those ones. They're like. You have your spirit guides here. And then I have my celestial guardians. I, they're the same, but I, I keep a definitive line. And then I have Lillian, who's a spirit guide. She's of my Celtic Irish descent. One who heals in cries is also native American. I also found her last earth plane life as well, so I have photos of what she looked like, what Wait, could you send that to us?

Aaron:

Yeah.

Frank:

I've always wondered about that, If you were able to like backtrack that kind of thing. It seems like a boy.

Aaron:

Rocky boy was also a person in history, so I have his photos as well, please.

Lauren:

Amazing, yeah, a person in history. So I have his photos as well, please.

Aaron:

Amazing, yeah, so cool, um leon. He was more great plains native american, I want to say comanche, but I don't. I haven't found any. I haven't done research on him yet, uh, or at all. Um, uh, who else?

Frank:

william. These are incredible names. These are good names. It's a good team.

Aaron:

Oh, I know it's beautiful work too. Oh, duh feathers facing the sun, um. So I went through a very big transitional phase when I moved back home to california and it was like just this end of a cycle where I was like, um, moving home and finding my place back home here, um, and she came through as, uh, the Hopi sun God. Uh. So I got my cousin has a tattoo of the other half. Oh, neat.

Frank:

Oh, that's awesome.

Aaron:

Yeah, and then I work with spirit animals. So I work with bear, and then I also work with bison, um, and then my dog, bucky. He is my grounding magnet here to earth plane, so he keeps me grounded and he'll help me with my spirit work as well. Whenever I need like a little energy boost, he'll always come over. He's always by me when I'm working to like just reciprocation of energy. That's fantastic, it's quite nice.

Frank:

So this is actually a really good point. I have a question. This is a good time to ask it, because it seems like a lot of your, your spirit team, are like a native American. How much of your personal culture, of our personal cultures, is, is an important part of our, our, our spirit team, or our spiritual guidance moving forward.

Aaron:

I would say almost every aspect. Really I would. I would say almost every aspect because when you look at past lives or just, uh, also just the lineage that you have, or heritage, there's going to be some sort of influence in your spirit team from your ancestors at any given point. Does that make sense? No, it does. It's interesting to think about it does.

Frank:

I don't know why. For some reason, maybe this is my like toxic individual individualism or something but I always like kind of kept that kind of stuff separate separate. I am half Cuban and like basically half Scottish Right. So, uh, but I don't super identify as being Cuban because I grew up in a very white culture. I mean, look at me, hear me, but I have family who, like are still very much steeped in that culture and that tradition. So I've always been like, oh, I always. I guess I'm just unnecessarily disassociated from that heritage element of it all. And then, same thing, my, my very white Scottish side of the family, like I don't have a lot of connection culturally to that because they came from Chicago. So I think, oh, cool, chicago. Like I don't think much beyond that.

Lauren:

Yeah, but I bet once you learned the names of your spirit guides, you'd be like oh, okay, I mean, I'm so jealous of your spirit guides' names.

Frank:

at the very least, every single one of them could be a band name.

Aaron:

There's a really interesting teaching point too, with learning your spirit guides' names. It's not as complicated as you would think. If you need help, let me know I.

Aaron:

I there's, it's super easy, so what I'll teach you real quick sure yeah, yeah you guys could do it also with like after the podcast or whatever, uh, but what you do is you close your eyes and then you just do really three big deep breaths and then you can ask in your mind's eye or out loud can the first spirit guide who's followed me from birth to now, can you give me your name and then the first name that you hear you can attach to your spirit guide, and whether that evolves or changes later on, at least now something you have, something to call upon when you're working with spirit or wanting to connect in meditation and sometimes it could be a family member who's passed wanting to connect in meditation, and sometimes it could be a family member who's passed. And that's kind of where the ancestral or the heritage or culture aspect come into play a little bit that is very interesting I did one meditation one time frank knows this and I.

Lauren:

I said I was like just about to fall asleep and I said is anyone like in here with me? And his male voice said or I was like just about to fall asleep and I said is anyone like in here with me? And his male voice said or I was like what's your name? And he said Stefan. I said okay.

Frank:

Now remind me, did you hear that? I heard a male voice. Like with your ear.

Lauren:

In my brain.

Aaron:

Okay.

Lauren:

Not outside my ear.

Aaron:

In my brain. That's how I hear.

Lauren:

A male voice said Stefan.

Frank:

I don't think he likes you doing the impersonation.

Lauren:

I don't know. Sorry, stefan, that's just a swing, I don't know, and I said what do I need to know? Or something like that, and he said, keep going. I was like there's no way.

Aaron:

I made that up because I didn't even. I had never heard that. That's how I feel about my mediumship when I connect with clients. So I do a majority of my readings on tiktok live. Uh, about 99 of them. They want that's the, that's one of the other things. Uh, with the right now theory and also like our attention spans are so blip, so I do all my readings on TikTok. That's just been the easiest way for me to get clients. And then I do private session, but the ratio is not there. But with TikTok live, it's just crazy how you can get validation just through a chat. It's really mind-blowing.

Lauren:

Do you do spirit-led or are you doing like I'm going to choose who's in the chat?

Aaron:

Yeah, so with my way that I work, spirit-led is just too loud, because it's just too loud for me to really pinpoint who's here, because I my chat depends it and the most people I've had was 600, but it's been very little. I get like 50 to 100 people in my chats at a time and that's and it jumps. So it's like it could be less or more in like a minute and spirit led just is so difficult. So what I do is I build a list. Whoever wants to pay gets on my list, and that's how I do my readings. I'll only do maybe five to ten clients uh, live, just to make it a little easier on me energy wise and then I'll go through that list and each one gets about 10 to 15 minutes. Sometimes it's more because I can't just stop at the vibe.

Aaron:

Yeah, I like to ramble and so they really get, you know, more minutes than allotted. Um, as a little secret tip there. But when I connect with spirit, yeah, the validations, it's just crazy. Um, and the definitive of who's who, I really try to keep it to one person, like one spirit entity, because it's just too much if it's like they have like a list of like four people they want to connect with or they come through with like a. I have clients who will come through with, like a grocery list of who they want to connect with. In those 10 minutes I can only pull as much as I can, you know. So, yeah, yeah, sometimes I'll speed run it and I'll try to get validations for each, but it is so difficult and that that's the other part too.

Aaron:

I wish people understood how hard this work was. So my focus on my tiktok. I'm gonna start to try to just do like daily vlogs of day in my life or like this is what I'm doing today. I don't know how to do that yet. Content is very difficult, but yeah, I want people to see like you know, I'm not just a medium, like yes, I, I do connect with people who've passed, but I also go through my own emotions, my own mental health, my own healing, and so that's also one thing I make very clear with clients At least I try to and the community I'm building that, hey, I'm also a human too. I'm not just a telephone.

Frank:

Yeah, you've got to respect the person too.

Aaron:

I think that's one of the hard parts with seeing mainstream mediums working is they get all the expectations and the this is what you're getting and this is who I am and very showboaty. But there is a person behind that as well, Right.

Frank:

Right, yeah, important to note. Yeah, for trying to figure out like your spirit guides, names and stuff like that. You know, I just zero percent trust my imagination. My, my brain's always firing and I, I will come up with. Oh, my, my lead spirit guy's name is carl's jr and I'll be like I'm gonna call you carl's jr now, and of course, on east coast that's hardy's. So like, how have you been able to develop, like your ability to separate, uh, your imagination from what you're actually receiving, or do you just go with it and if there's a course correction later on, you just accept that?

Aaron:

I just go with it. I don't know, they've just kind of come to me and I'm like, okay, that's who you are, all right oh, frank's gonna be like it's Carl's Jr, it's Slim Jim that could be like a cowboy figure or something. That's a good question. Yeah, I mean, I honestly my imagination, that's that's. That's interesting, because I don't I have imagination, but this is, it's too real and grounding and anchoring to be just my imagination at this point. Yeah, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Frank:

It's so interesting.

Aaron:

I'm not saying it's your ability, I'm second-guessing my ability, no, no, but it's a good point though, because how do you know that it's not you being crazy or kooky, or you know? Congrats, aaron, you're bananas, but it's, it's interesting. That is an interesting point, but no, I mean, I just go with it If that's what they're giving me, and that goes into how to build your intuition. Uh, there's three aspects there of um, trust, self and pain, pain, and those three things can help you open up with spirit. Uh, when you trust, you just have to trust with what you're hearing, and that's that's what's. That's what it's going to be, you know that's yeah and pain.

Frank:

Trust self and pain. Can you. Can you go through that real quick?

Aaron:

yeah. So with uh, trust, self and pain, uh, three ways to open your psychic or intuitive abilities. So trust if you can't trust yourself your instincts are your own power then how would you trust another person or the messages that you receive? So that's lesson number one is trust. So just trusting the voices that you're hearing here and trusting here with your heart. So it's just like you know, you can't go into a medium reading with expectations. You just really have to go in with an open heart, open mind to what you're receiving. And that's how I do. My mediumship is, you know, but I'm, and I used to be very anal about that too. But now I've learned, like I can't, I just have to give them what I hear and hope that it sticks, because at some point it will. If it doesn't right away, in the next couple days, it will.

Aaron:

The next one is self, and that's self-care, self-reflection. When you love yourself, care for yourself and truly at the center of self, not necessarily self-centered then you'll start to heal from grief, have a more joyful life and open spiritually. So one of the second teachings especially big in my grief teachings is self-care, and that's not just, like you know, cooking or watching TV or taking a bath. It's like that deep soul self-care that you're taking care of yourself and that's what's going to help with grief and everything. And then pain that would necessarily be working on trauma, shadow work. It could also be a little bit of physical pain, if you think that would also fit there for you. So you have to sit with your pain and get to know it. Yes, it's uncomfortable to face it, but physical death, addiction and own mistakes, actions are all counted as pain. But you can also grow and work with it. And holding on to pain can lead to anger and so on. But with pain and with grief.

Aaron:

One of the other big teachings that I teach is you have to learn to live alongside grief. People say that they want the closure. They're coming to me to get closure with their loved one, but they'll never. They're not gonna. You're chasing a unicorn with closure because you're not gonna find it. You just have to learn to have, learn to build a new sense of normalcy with the grief in your life and how to move forward. And that's where a lot of people lose that stepping stone because they're so hyper and especially the society very focused on closure basis. But it's you're not going to find closure. Yeah yeah, there's no end to that. That's. That's one of the big things I try to teach people whether that lands and whether that that works, and you know people want to listen Then, and whether that works and people want to listen, then that's kind of what I teach with that as well.

Frank:

All important things. Aaron, please give everybody your plugs.

Aaron:

Tell them where to find you, oh yeah, so you can find me on TikTok at AaronHarrisLive. You can go to my website, AaronHarrisLivecom. I also offer free grief support once a month and I'm also opening up an LGBT grief support group as well once a month Hopefully that's in the works. Classes found on the website, Private sessions found on the website Everything is on my website pretty much YouTube, pretty much all social media YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, all the same. Handle Aaron Harris Live.

Lauren:

Thank you so much for spending time with us and telling us your story.

Aaron:

Thanks for having me.

Frank:

We'll definitely talk to you soon. Keep in touch and send us some of those cool things that you collect?

Lauren:

Yeah, I'll send you some more. Thank you, Aaron. Talk to you soon Good one Bye.

Aaron:

Bye.

Frank:

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