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067: Elemental Spirits & Ghosts who Gossip // with DeeDee Hawk

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DeeDee Hawk, an incredible psychic medium and team member of Austin's MetaphysicalU takes us on a mesmerizing journey through the unseen world of elementals, spirit communication, and animal telepathy. A healer with Navajo roots, DeeDee shares how her deep connection with nature blossomed into extraordinary psychic gifts.

The conversation reveals fascinating insights into how trees communicate, and her descriptions of fairies offer a rare glimpse into this hidden dimension of our natural world. Her approach to spirit communication emphasizes respect, permission-asking, and reciprocity—a framework that has served her well across all her metaphysical work.

Ready to discover the elemental beings in your own backyard? Join us for this enchanting conversation that will forever change how you perceive the natural world around you. 

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Lauren:

Welcome, friends. In this episode, Frank and I talked to Dee Dee Hawk, a healer, animal communicator and psychic medium who works with elementals.

Frank:

I'm Lauren Leon and I'm inviting a gnome out for a coffee.

Lauren:

We are a married couple learning how to develop our own intuition, and this is episode 67 of Claire Voyaging. 67 of Claire Voyaging. Wayfeather Media presents Claire Voyaging.

Frank:

What's going on? Frank was rapping again. I always do, I know. Why don't you give us a little? No, it wasn't good, it'll damage my reputation it was something about coffee and lattes don't worry about it behind the scenes it'll make more sense later voyaging. Hello everyone how's it going?

Frank:

I hope this day finds you well, really, really having good energy out there let's get to it keep it up yeah, well, I hope everyone is doing great, because there are a lot of astrological things going on. This is not exactly an episode about that, but I'm just saying my tiktok's going off about the astrology stuff. Yeah, everyone's like do you feel?

Lauren:

what I'm feeling and the kind of the general sense is like everything feels hard and it's not just because of circumstances, it's also the energy out there, the planets, the moon, eclipse season, what the actual F? Hey y'all, we got some new donations for our documentary. That's right, yes, so here's a little shout out. Here we go. Here we go, thank you, tiffany. Tiffany, carol, carol and Lori.

Frank:

Lori, a little shout out here we go, here we go, thank you tiffany, tiffany, carol, carol and laurie, laurie, my laurie, a round of my laurie she's ours, she's our laurie thank you guys claim her. Thanks everybody you guys.

Lauren:

We only have 82 days left of this as of today oh we're recording this on monday lauren likes countdowns.

Frank:

Drives me crazy when we're on a road trip.

Lauren:

She's like you hate that.

Frank:

She's like oh, it's only 150 more miles left. I'm like, do not say that again if we're on a long road trip.

Lauren:

He just thinks that's a nightmare.

Frank:

I'm like no, no, 42 more miles no, let me, let me zone out and get there before I know it. Don't count it down the whole way.

Lauren:

Why did you have to bring it to my attention? We only have 82 days left of this fundraising campaign for our documentary and there are some great perks to donating, most importantly, helping us to get the thing actually made, that's a big part. But beyond that, some fun behind the scenes stuff shout outs, like you just heard. Go check it out and we can't do it without your support, so thank you thank you thank you for being the wind beneath our wings wow you know something about that song sounds um, it sounds a little belittling or something.

Lauren:

I've always loved that song, but it's like you are the wind. You let me soar. You are the wind beneath my wings.

Frank:

Yeah.

Lauren:

I don't know.

Frank:

I mean, I think that was a phrase before. It was a song, was it? Yeah, it's like you know, it's a wind, wind in my sails, kind of thing I don't know.

Lauren:

I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to consult google or chat gpt on this one. I don't like it uh I know you are I know it from I know it, you're more than that may we be the wind beneath your wings.

Frank:

We are.

Lauren:

We are just here to serve we want to help you soar like an eagle yeah okay, the document talking about the documentary brings me to today's guest, which is didi hawk.

Lauren:

uh, she is part of the team at metaphysical you, which was started by sarah reeves, and we've had sarah reeves as a guest before episode 12. She's amazing. The team at metaphysical you has their own podcast called MP unleashed, and they do investigations in Austin, texas, and they come from a place of knowing that spirits exist instead of trying to prove that they do. So I'm just saying that because if you hear us mentioned Sarah while we're talking to DD, that's who we're talking about Sarah Reeves. Uh, they work together and when frank and I go to austin to film our documentary, we will get to see firsthand how they all work how it works yeah, how the sausage gets made.

Lauren:

I hate that okay, so I'm not let's cut that part out.

Frank:

No.

Lauren:

Okay, so, frank, let's get. Let's just get to Didi.

Frank:

Let's get to Didi this was a great conversation.

Lauren:

She's just got like really calming, sweet, lighthearted energy and I just really enjoyed talking to her and talking about elementals which we've never talked about on the show, Really.

Frank:

Listen, there's this. I was just talking to Lauren about this. There's this. There's something going on with the Metaphysical you team. They know more than they're letting on, I'm pretty sure, and they're very calm about it. I haven't figured out what the secret is. There's a secret here. I will get to the bottom of it.

Lauren:

I promise all y'all, but you're all too too intuitive they're too chill, psychic and like just really awesome so I've got my eye on you I don't know what you're you're trying to uncover I have no real threats to offer not at all I'm gonna ask a question I'm gonna ask you so many things, um, but yeah, I mean, dd was an absolute joy to talk to, yes, so let's just, let's just press play well, let's just circle the wagons circle the wagons, circle the wagons.

Lauren:

Roll the tape. Dee Dee Hawk, thank you so much for joining us today. On Claire Voyaging, we are just tickled that you are with us. We love to hear people's backstories, and I know you've got a good one, so can you tell us a bit about yourself, how you got into doing the work that you're doing now?

DeeDee:

Yeah, I'd be happy to. First of all, thank you both for having me on your podcast. I really appreciate the ask. I was really blown away. So thank you so much for having me.

DeeDee:

As far as, like I would say, my journey, it really started with a deep connection that I have with nature and animals and that later blew up into understanding energy and spirit communication. I don't know if it's because I was born on a reservation, being part of the Navajo Nation, I was surrounded by a lot of nature and animals all the time. Eventually, what I ended up doing is I ended up moving to Austin back at the end of 99. And over the years I've just immersed myself in metaphysical studies. Thankfully, I've been able to go on a lot of like a better term ghost investigations. I've been on one with the 9-0 podcast, I've been on a couple with the Real Ghosts Of and then our own MP1 Leashed. So that has really helped my intuitive work really kick into high gear and use all my senses. So, yeah, mainly my work is all about healing, whether it's for animals, people or unseen energies in the space.

Lauren:

So were you like was this like a thing when you were a kid? Like, was this like a thing when you were a kid, like, oh, dd has a sensitivity, or is it just kind of um in your family like everybody? Or, you know, like a lot of people have it?

DeeDee:

yeah, it's, it's. It's something I've already had always had in my life, but I didn't really start to explore it until I was much older. Um, there'd be little things here and there. For example, we went to my family and I went to go look at a house to rent and I remember walking up to the house and everybody went inside, greeted with the real estate agent and everything, and had a great conversation and, of course, as a kid, you're not going to stand there and listen to the real estate agent, you're going to run around. So that's exactly what I did. I went to the kitchen, I went to the living room, I raced to the bedrooms and I was like okay, and then I realized through the kitchen there is a basement and I started to take a couple steps down into the basement and I just I'm like okay, no problem, and I backed out and I waited for my family in the car because something in there just did not set well with me wow

Frank:

oh, I assume you didn't end up with the house no, thankfully my parents did not choose that house.

Lauren:

Yeah, yeah it could have caused some unnecessary trauma. I would imagine the fear of that basement.

Frank:

Wow so let me ask you, did you? You said you were born on a, on a reservation, did you? Were, you like, raised on the reservation too?

DeeDee:

no, I was not raised on the reservation. I was adopted uh pretty young. So um, I was adopted. Both my parents are white.

Frank:

Okay, okay, do you, I mean? So I've heard so much about people who have. Recently we interviewed someone, Aaron Harris, who same thing, actually, which is really funny, yeah founded that so much of his psychic intuition was so linked to his heritage. I guess my question to you is like, how much of that Navajo heritage do you kind of tap into when you're doing your thing?

DeeDee:

Well, I would say all of it, all the time.

Frank:

That's what Aaron said too, yeah.

DeeDee:

I don't really think I can say like a what piece or portion of it is, because it's so a part of who I am that I just I don't know, it's just a part of who I am so. But you know, I'm also going through the journey of finding out more details about my adoption and how all that worked. So as we speak right now, I'm finding out more information and finding out my bloodline. So it should be pretty fun to figure out all those details.

Frank:

Oh, wow, so this is ongoing.

DeeDee:

Yeah, it's ongoing. I decided to jump into it and explore it. I didn't really have any interest for a long, long time and then now it's a. I'm like you know what? I'm curious, you know.

Lauren:

I want to know what's in my background.

DeeDee:

I want to know, like you know, do I have? Do I have healers in my background? Do I have healers in my lineage? Um, you know, do it? Is there a medicine woman in my, in my bloodline? There's lots of possibilities. So I figured.

Frank:

I'd rather dig my heels in now and find out. Yeah, yeah, that's really cool. So let me ask you the, the like, energy and spirit, the way you tap into stuff. How does it present to you? What is it? Or, if you want to use typical terms, what are you? What are the Claire's that you tap into?

DeeDee:

Well, I'd have to say, for me, animal communication is more telepathic. It's about tuning into an animal's energy. They carry a lot of emotions and they have so many thoughts. I feel like sometimes, when they're speaking to me, they speak to me in emotions. They also give me images and sensations rather than words. I would say this one's kind of funny, but one of the most recent ones that I got was from the point of view of a very small, small, petite dog, and what he was showing me is he was showing me from his point of view of a very small, small, petite dog, and what he was showing me is he was showing me from his point of view the refrigerator open, so basically looking at like ankle high up into refrigerator, and he's showing me the back of a bottle and it's specifically red on top and white on bottom and I'm like what are you showing me? And he had a request for what that was and then I realized it's ready.

Lauren:

Whip.

DeeDee:

I'm like. So he's showing me from his point of view. He hasn't been getting his ready whip and she goes. I forgot that was in the refrigerator.

Lauren:

That is so funny, gosh, that is so amazing, oh no these little dogs.

Frank:

Oh, finally someone, someone who's listening to me and it's like can you get the ready whip?

DeeDee:

already exactly, I just want a little whipped cream yeah, and I'm like this is the weirdest image I've ever gotten and I'm like, is that Ready Whip?

Lauren:

That's amazing oh my gosh, that's so cool.

Frank:

So that was just like imagery, that kind of popped in your head. Did you know this dog, or was it just like a friend's dog or something?

DeeDee:

This was for an animal communication reading.

Frank:

Got it.

DeeDee:

She just asked. The owner was like well, you know, I feel like I just kind of want to do a gut check, see how things are going and, you know, make sure that we have a strong communication. I'm like that's great. I love that. So let's dive in deeper into that. And at the very end I had asked the dog I'm like well, was there anything else that you wanted me to communicate to your owner? And that's the final image. Was the ready whip bottle? I'm like okay.

Frank:

That's amazing.

DeeDee:

I will do that. I will get that communicated right away.

Frank:

So it was straight up. A last but not least.

Lauren:

Yeah, I'd like to put in a formal request for my ready whip.

DeeDee:

I am lacking ready whip in my life. Can you please help me out?

Lauren:

That's so funny. Oh my gosh, I love that so much. They have so much to say and we're just like. They stare at us and we're like what? I know? Our dog has like a specific time, two specific times of day, that he comes and harasses frank and like follows him to the kitchen, like, punches him in the foot, like, and he's like staring at him and frank's like what, and then he'll like bark at him.

Frank:

It's like that's his treat time it's treat time and it's so specific but I'm like lately, I'm like, dude, I haven't gotten you out for walks enough. I gotta, we gotta, lay off the treats. I'm sorry I don't, he does not like it.

DeeDee:

We, we argue yeah, I, I can. I can totally understand where frank's coming from as far as like the animals, because the first thing in the morning we have, uh, an old maine coon, his name is tokyo, and he purposely waits yeah, he purposely waits until I get up and actually show up in the kitchen and as soon as I do, he starts talking and I know exactly what he wants. He's like give me food, give me water, give me food and water, yeah, and I'm like, and I have what we call a toll. I'm like the toll is a body bump where he bumps his body against my legs and then I do what he wants.

DeeDee:

So, I'm like body bump.

Lauren:

He's like ugh, fine, oh my gosh. We had a Maine Coon. He was 17 when he passed and he was a talker Like just he was just, you know, big guy, Like lovable, but so quirky, like just the weirdest cat in the world.

Frank:

Oh man, that's so fun. So. So, what were the? What were some of the things that you did? To like start developing your, your sensitivity to your, your, your abilities your sensitivity, to your abilities.

DeeDee:

Well, we had a female cat show up on our porch and just decided she was never going to leave, didn't know her, and when we would walk out of the house she would rub up on our body and love on us. And then, eventually, we couldn't help it. We started feeding her of course yeah, yes, of course.

DeeDee:

And then she eventually had a litter and of course we watched those babies. And out of her litter, um, there was one particular cat by the name of brando. And brando made it very clear to us from the very beginning I refuse to be an inside cat, so you better let me out. So we're like, all right, all right, we'll let you out. So we had a routine of him going out, fighting whatever was in the neighborhood, coming back people torn, ripped, you know, a chunk of fur gone, a chunk of you know skin missing, and he would come home and he would sit there and be real pitiful and this is kind of like semi during the cooler months here in Austin. And so I would have a chair I was sitting in and I had a blanket in my lap and he'd wait for me to get situated, he'd pop into my lap and then just pass out. He'd wait for me to get situated, he'd pop into my lap and then just pass out.

DeeDee:

Um, and then, when that would happen, I'm mindlessly watching television, but at the same time I was putting my hands on him and eventually this, we became in tune with one another which was not at all what I expected, um, but then I started realizing like I was helping him heal and he would sleep in my, my lap, um, until I started to move, so probably like an hour or so, and then I'd start to move and he'd he'd be out, go back out, and we'd have this cycle over and over and over, um, for the longest time, where he would just come in and be like fix me heal me.

DeeDee:

So he'd get my lap and we do the same thing, and it just became a routine for a long time. And then I then once I started getting in tune with him and I could start hearing him, and it just was a slow progression.

Lauren:

Wow, Were you like what is happening with?

DeeDee:

my hands.

Lauren:

Did you like know, okay, I've got something. Or did it take a little while um?

DeeDee:

at first I think I I fought it because I didn't want to have to really dive into it. I didn't want to have to like, really be like, okay, is this really happening? And then there was a party that we had gone to, a mutual friends party, and there was a guy there who kept saying you know, I I got to go see the surgeon, I've got this hole in my hand. You know, I can't, I can't get it to heal. And I was like, well, let me take a look at it. And he was like OK, and in my head I started Basically kind of picturing like his skin moving towards the center of his hand and pulling it from every angle of the wound and just moving it towards the center.

DeeDee:

And I just kept doing that and that was my quote-unquote party trick um and eventually uh, he said he didn't have to go through surgery, anything like that, and he didn't have to go see anybody else, and I was just like, okay, maybe this is a little bit more than what I think it is. I'm like, yeah, well, you know. So I think there's just been little things here and there that have kind of developed over time and have been my sign. But for a while there I didn't want to read the signs, I didn't want to read that I could do this, it, it, it. It really put me in a weird space and for acceptance. But eventually I was like, okay, I can't say that I don't have this any longer, like it's just going to be part of me now.

Lauren:

Yeah, what do you think that hesitation was?

DeeDee:

Oh man, there's so much I would say with my faith, I think, with my faith was the biggest one. I think with my faith was the biggest one, wow, because my, my, my birth, my, my, my adopted mom. She knows I have gifts. So like that's not any any kind of new thing to her, like she knows but, my mother-in-law not at all Interested in hearing anything about my gifts.

DeeDee:

Whoa, yeah, totally, totally juxtaposition. So that was really hard because it's like well then, who do you tell, now that you have admitted to yourself that you have these gifts, who do you tell, who do you share this with? And that became a very cumbersome, I guess, reveal. Yeah, of course my husband knows um and um, my immediate family knows. But sharing that, even with my mother-in-law, uh like say, for example, there was a moment where she and I were just in the kitchen together and we were just hanging out and this is early AM morning, nobody's up, it's just her and I, and we both have our cup of coffee.

DeeDee:

And down the hall comes her mother, her mother-in-law, and I'm like oh, and she comes in and she's standing behind my mother-in-law in the kitchen and I'm just looking at her and I'm like I don't know who this is.

Lauren:

Oh boy.

DeeDee:

And she said can you, can you, can you deliver a message for me? And I'm like yes, ma'am. And she said can you tell? Her that nobody takes as good as care as my boy, of my boy, as she does, and I was like yeah.

DeeDee:

I'll tell her oh wow, and I I didn't know it, but, um, my husband later told me that, um, when she was coming to the end of her life, she actually stayed in one of the rooms downstairs, in that hallway that she came from. Wow, so she spent her last days in that house, wow. Yeah, how did she take?

Lauren:

that Like, did you blurt it out or were you like I gotta tell you something, yeah.

DeeDee:

Cause that's the one thing about message messages you have to deliver them. So I was like, oh, this is going to be uncomfortable and awkward, yeah, so I. So I was like I took a sip of coffee and I said, um, that morning good courage, right yeah and I'm like, can I share something with you?

DeeDee:

and she's like, sure. And I'm like, uh, I see this woman coming down the hallway, so she's got a nightgown on and she's got a, a robe and, um, she wants me to tell you that no one takes care of her son as well as you do. And then it was just silence. Oh my god, nothing was said. You could just tell it was very uncomfortable for her, yeah, and then it got uncomfortable for me and then, as if it wasn't enough already yeah, yeah, and then, um, it just felt awkward so I didn't.

DeeDee:

You know, I didn't pursue or ask her any more follow-up questions or anything like that, but that was that was. That was it, and we haven't really talked about it since wow, so she never, she never really came around, huh.

Frank:

No, wow Does she have like her own, her own faith that that conflicts with her.

DeeDee:

I, I do, I do believe it probably does conflict with her faith.

Lauren:

Yeah.

DeeDee:

She's old school she's she's in her eighties, so I don't know how much of that she would be accepting of of um, but yeah, it seems like there's a very defined line there. That happened with that was unspoken.

Frank:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and just out of curiosity, not that it matters, but what faith is that? Because I've got a little scoreboard going here.

DeeDee:

I don't necessarily know what that, what that is, I'll have to. I'll have to ask her.

Frank:

I don't really know let me know it's heavily weighted in some directions you work with elementals, right, or do you?

Lauren:

okay? Can you talk about that a little bit? We've never had someone on our podcast that works with or sees or senses elementals I think we only talked about it once, and I think it was with alexis okay, yeah, we had alexis and eric and eric on yeah uh, from some alchemist um they're so they're so cool, I love them.

Frank:

We didn't talk about it that much. I love this line of questioning yes.

Lauren:

Can you tell us what that is? What elementals are? The first time I ever even heard about it was Frank listening to the night owl podcast. He started listening to it before I did and he's like, yeah, did you know? Supposedly fairies are real and also tree spirits, yeah, more. But I'd love to hear you talk about it.

DeeDee:

Yeah, totally so for me. Um, in pioneer farms there's this great tree, um, she's massive and huge, um she, um. Basically, we went to pioneer farms gosh, I don't know, we've been so many times um, but I went with a group of people. That's a place in austin, yeah's a place here in Austin. It's called Pioneer Farms. It's one of where one of the episodes on the NIDAL podcast was uh made and they also had, like uh, repeat, uh tours of the area on the NIDAL um. So I went and um I, there's this huge tree.

DeeDee:

You, basically, when you come into her area, I knew that I had to, like, introduce myself first before I could even get close to her. Um, it's just like this feeling of royalty, like you're in the presence of this elderly knowledgeable, seen everything, tree, and so before I even got close to her, I had to ask her permission to walk into her space and I waited and I waited and I waited and eventually she gave me permission and I went up to her and started talking to her. Um, we eventually returned and I did the same thing. Before I approached her, I asked her permission and she let me come close, and one of her requests was um. When I see you next time, can you? She's like it's been a very long time, because Pioneer Farms was actually Native American land.

DeeDee:

And so she had said to me it's been a long time since I've had anybody sing to me. That's Native. She's like can you come back and can you sing to me? And I'm like, yeah, not knowing what I was singing, but I did. Yeah, not knowing what I was saying, but I did um. So that second time I came to see her I had an offering for her, um and um, as I had the offering, I also sang to her as well and um, standing close to the tree was my uh friend jack's wolf. Uh, who was originally a part of mp1, leashed um, right, he was.

DeeDee:

Yeah, he was standing there, uh, listening to me and he's just crying and I'm walking around the base of the tree singing to her and just pouring as much love into her as I could. And it was after that, that visit, that I could start to see things that were in the woods, things that were up in the trees. They first started off as shadows, and so I feel like in my gut, like that gift came from her. I didn't have it before that oh, that is interesting oh my god okay, okay.

Frank:

Well, I have a couple, a couple of questions real quick about this.

Lauren:

Go for it also that made me feel emotional, like that's so beautiful it was very emotional.

DeeDee:

I I was trying not to, I I was crying, but I was singing, but at the same time I was like crying. I was like because every time I looked at Jax I could not get emotional.

Lauren:

Yeah, oh my gosh, what were you singing?

DeeDee:

I sing to her. It's a. I'm trying to think what song is it? It's a I'm trying to think what song is it the Sweetest Gift by Sade?

Lauren:

Great.

Frank:

I guess it's better than Highway to Hell, which is what I like. The tree's like get out of here the tree says I made a poor choice you don't have permission anymore okay, let me ask this. Okay, what was the sense you got? How did you know that this was like, like you put it, royalty of a tree?

DeeDee:

I could feel the boundary before I got. I felt like the boundary of, like a threshold, basically around her and I wanted, when I sensed that threshold, I wanted to honor that before I went any further.

Frank:

Okay.

DeeDee:

Wow yeah.

Frank:

So what are the other other trees? Just a bunch of dorks hanging around like saying I don't care.

DeeDee:

I, you know, I don't know exactly, but they, they are, they all are connected.

DeeDee:

So, but for her specifically, like she has seen everything. She's the oldest tree there. She is by far way completely full of a lot more knowledge than any any any other tree that I've interacted with, and she's full. She's full of so much love and she, she loves the land that she's on, she loves everything that happens there. She just tries to, you know, know, reach as many people as she can, um, so, yeah, I, I just really love being around her. Her energy is just amazing that's really cool so this is why the giving tree?

Lauren:

like kind of pisses me off, because oh, the giving tree like does that. Does that bug you? That story, like this tree is just like oh sure, boy, I'll give you everything you ever wanted.

DeeDee:

But like I don't know, he's not honoring that tree at all you know, I hadn't really thought about it, but you're right, he isn't no, he's not singing songs to the tree we stopped around here.

Frank:

It's like no, this book sucks yeah, our daughter got real sad.

Lauren:

We read that to her like once and it's like no, this book sucks. Yeah, our daughter got real sad. We read that to her like once and she's like it's really sad. We're like you know what it is. It's messed up.

Frank:

I get the message, but still.

Lauren:

Okay.

Frank:

Sorry. So what would have happened if you didn't ask for permission to approach?

DeeDee:

I don't think I would have had the same interaction with her. Okay, I don't think that would have been a possibility. I feel like when you come to a tree, you have to pay attention to the cues that they're giving you when you approach, because not every tree is going to, you know, ask you to ask permission. Some are just like hey and they and they just want to gossip. A lot of trees gossip.

Lauren:

No, really. Yes, oh, please, please say more about that.

DeeDee:

Right. So I we went to uh one investigation and there is a tree that overhangs basically like splits the fence between one property and the next. And so I'm walking around the perimeter of the backyard and this tree is like hey, hey, come here. And I'm like what's's going on? And basically telling on his owners like do you know what he's doing over here? And I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not here for this house. I'm like please keep whatever he's doing to yourself. I'm like I'm here on this side of the fence, I'm like I'm here for them. And uh, he's like, oh, I could tell you all about them. Spilled the beans, talked about an energy that was walking back and forth on the top floor, just consistently Talked about the people that lived there before. I mean, they just know the tea.

Frank:

Neighborhood watch? Yes, I mean if you're going tea. Neighborhood watch yes, that's wild. I mean if you're going to stand around all day long. I'm sure you're just looking around waiting to be entertained by whatever nonsense is happening.

Lauren:

Do you know?

DeeDee:

what's going on here? Yeah, pretty much, and I'm like I'm not here for that house, I don't want to know. Oh, that's so crazy, my God. Okay, okay.

Frank:

So is it like they are recognizing that you are receptive to them?

DeeDee:

Yeah, um, when I go out to a property, specifically, I'm usually the first one to be in the backyard, like it usually is calling to me. Um, so I'll jump in the backyard and check it out. I'm touching everything.

Frank:

I have to touch everything I was gonna ask you about that. I you were talking about having to touch stuff, and that's, it seems like an important part of your practice yeah, I gotta touch everything.

DeeDee:

So I gotta touch the trees, I gotta touch the earth, I gotta touch, um, just everything I can get my hands on, and that's pretty much where they're like. It's kind of like hearing like a familiar song. When you touch them, their energy just passes to you and you can hear it. That's the best way I can describe it.

Lauren:

That's so poetic, that's so cool.

DeeDee:

Yeah, it's very cool, yeah, it's very different, it's very different. But yeah, um, and in that, uh, seeing the elementals has been definitely interesting. Um, sarah laughs, because every time I see elementals or if she knows that something's going on in the backyard, she's like all right, let me, let me let Didi check it out. She's like. She's like I know you're going to be over the moon and go in the backyard.

Frank:

I'm like, yes, Like, what kind of a spirit is a tree Like? If you know we're always talking on the show about, you know how we as people are here and like what we're playing at and what we're all trying to do. But, like you know, I'm assuming trees are non-human entities, right? Or are the more gossipy ones? Were they once?

Lauren:

Were they once human.

Frank:

Yeah.

DeeDee:

I would love to tell you that I know the answer to that question, but I honestly don't know.

DeeDee:

I've met other people that have been to Pioneer Farms who have said to me at the base of the tree, like within the tree itself, they're seeing Native Americans in each one of them.

DeeDee:

That's what I heard when we went to pioneer farms, um, and I said, can you draw that? And they're like, yeah, um, and they drew it. This is probably, I don't know, four or five years ago, but they drew what they were seeing and it it looked like somebody who was sitting crisscross applesauce, um, as like the base of the tree, and then as it went from being thicker on the bottom to like the, to the taller portion, that's where, like, their upper body was um, and so, yeah, they kind of drew it for me and I'm like that's something I need to ponder that is such a trip, yeah, especially with, like you know, native American culture being so tied to the spirit of the land and how everything essentially has a spirit, like I wonder if there's just a choice or something like after death, to like just fuse with that and be a part of it, or something.

Lauren:

I mean.

Frank:

I don't know I'm the last person to be commenting on this, but that's so interesting to me.

DeeDee:

Yeah, it's fascinating to me still. I'm I'm still learning a lot all the time. They're always teaching me something new.

Frank:

Yeah, all right, all right, real quick. Circling back to the whole the elementals thing, like, how many different types of elementals have you encountered or are you still like discovering new types?

DeeDee:

oh my goodness, there are always new types. Um, I feel like depending upon where you go there, you're gonna see different things. Um, I haven't really counted. How many have you encountered like fairies or gnomes? Yeah, specifically, there's a property that we've gone out to Gosh, I want to say south of Austin, where they have both fairies and gnomes. They're more.

DeeDee:

We've been on there at this particular location on two different occasions One when there was water running in the creek bed, and again when there wasn't any water running in the creek bed. When there was water running, they were everywhere, really congested in this wooded area, and you could actually, if you were, if you wanted to, you could basically call them to you to like light up, um, because they were filled with light and uh. So at some point we we purposely made a point to break away from the rest of their group to see if we could get them to light up for us and give us a light show. Um, when the water was there, totally no problem. But when the water was gone, that totally no problem. But when the water was gone, that was their source of energy. So they would try to come, but their light was very dim and very, very bland, but they would try to light up, but they just didn't have a way to pull that energy, so they couldn't really do a light show for us like they could when the water was there.

DeeDee:

So, like running.

Frank:

I've heard before like running water is like is like a big you know, everything needs some kind of power source. Yeah, and I've heard running water before.

DeeDee:

Any idea why I think it's just where they pull their energy from yeah, what is the light show.

Frank:

Yeah, was that light show like in the physical or in like the like, uh like psychic sense.

DeeDee:

And the physical. They would basically, um, come from out of the woods and then, uh, we'd ask them, we would start talking to them and be like hey, you know, if you wouldn't mind, you know we're here and we would introduce ourselves. Um, we would be, we would love to see, you know, a light show, can you? Can you, you know, throw some lights on and let us see what you look like? And, um, they would either comply or be like eh, I don't have it, I don't have any energy to do that. So, uh, they would just basically show like, show up like balls of light Um, is the best way I can put it. Yeah, like balls of light is the best way I can put it. Yeah.

Frank:

What Is this?

Lauren:

What Is this more? I want to come, I want to see that.

DeeDee:

That's so cool. Believe me, tell Sarah and she will bring you.

Lauren:

Okay, well, we're coming out there. Yeah, when do you guys get out?

Frank:

I think sometime in fall, yeah, so I don't know, is this at any of these? Okay? First of all, are these locations like very? Do you find more elementals in very desolate environments, or not desolate necessarily, but like more um rural? I said it right you did.

Lauren:

I have a really hard time with the word rural.

DeeDee:

It's hard to say I say rural, I try not to have a twang in my voice, but sometimes it sneaks out. I would have to say if it's land that hasn't been touched, you can get a lot of good elementals in that area. If it's land that's been messed around with, elementals in that area, if it's land that's been messed around with, they might relocate to a, to a less, to a spot that's not quite, as I guess, as touched or invaded right the word they use is invaded, so that's why I'm thinking invaded invaded wow

Frank:

oh they're not wrong yeah yeah, yeah, um, something I always notice with your team is that you guys always walk into these spaces with like you come in confidently, but you also come in very politely and respectfully of the existing anybody, any things that might be nearby or residing there. Yeah, I always think that's like just really cool. Can you like speak towards that a little bit as to what your practice is in that for anybody who wants to go out and maybe try and connect with the elementals of their land?

DeeDee:

Yeah, I would say just like you would to another person you don't know be sure to introduce yourself, ask permission. Permission is a strong way to get communication started and it also lets them know that you're there not to hurt them, and I usually will say something along the lines of like, I'm not here to change anything, I'm just here to ask questions. If you're open to answering those questions, fantastic. If you're not totally understand, this is your area, I'm the one who's coming into your space and I usually will come with an offering. So they know that I'm not here to take anything away from you. And it seems like with that happening together, all those things happening together, it's a great way to then start communication. What kind of offering? It depends, um. It depends sometimes, um, this is really weird, but, like before we go on an investigation, usually the night before um, someone or something will visit me and tell me what the offering should be. So in the past it's been um coffee, specifically coffee grounds, not coffee beans.

Lauren:

I don't know why yeah, like you, just like put them in a cup or like throw on the floor.

DeeDee:

Well, I basically, when I get there, I listen to them how they want it. So sometimes, like for example, the great tree, she wanted coffee grounds, but she wanted them. She wanted them spread around her roots, so I spread them around the base of a tree roots, so I spread them around the base of a tree. Um, I've gotten questions for a request, for we see tobacco singing songs, um, dude, hold on.

Frank:

I just gotta point out real quick even when, even when you're in spirit form, you need to wake up, you need a cup of coffee and a cigarette. It's just the way it is. It's it's not limited to a los angeles starbucks. That's so, that's so. I'm like, yeah, of course, that's the thing that gets me up in the morning yeah, why not?

Lauren:

why not? Or a song?

Frank:

yeah, or pop on your favorite song.

DeeDee:

You have time to wake up but on your favorite jams, yeah, man sorry, what else? What else um flowers or something else. It was like in pill form, but I ended up taking like a little. It was like a gel capsule and I ended up taking like a little um puncturing the capsule and then using whatever it was in there. I think it was like vitamin E or something specific that they wanted, that's so specific.

DeeDee:

Yeah it was. It was very specific and I was like, well, I'm not going to carry that whole bottle, because what if it gets loose in my bag? I'm like that's going to be a mess. Yeah, let me go get capsules. I think it was vitamin e or something like that. It was something something oddly strange that I've never been asked for before, but I did it and they were.

Frank:

so you have you have a rep. Come to you, a messenger. Come to you the night before and say you know, you know, what we'd really like is that is that, is that messenger person like a, also an elemental or in the form of something else?

DeeDee:

um, usually when they come to me, it's in my dream, so sometimes they don't look like anything and sometimes it's just a voice.

Lauren:

Wow, it's like a backstage writer list. They're like bring M&M's. Only green M&M's yeah exactly Pink Starburst A bottle of whiskey, three bottles of red wine, some Fritos.

Frank:

That is so funny.

DeeDee:

So, Frank, let me ask you what would be your list, what would be your offering request?

Frank:

Oh, if I were to make a request, let me think here Just get like tacos. It's Just get like tacos, it's going to be tacos, I don't care what kind. That's the most unhinged request you can make.

Lauren:

What about you, Lauren? What would yours be? I feel like my first thought was like it's just like sprinkle some like marshmallows.

Frank:

Oh, my God, lauren's would be marshmallows, just like basically unadulterated sugar, that's it.

Lauren:

Yeah, just get it straight in there. Yeah, maybe roast one if you're, if you're really feeling up for the task. What about you, deedee Um?

DeeDee:

I would say my offering would probably be gin gins, because I'm so in love with those right now, I don't know why.

Lauren:

Wait what.

DeeDee:

Gin gins. They're ginger candies.

Frank:

Oh, the little ginger candy with a little ginger candy on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lauren:

Oh my God.

DeeDee:

I love it. I would say gin, gins, mushroom coffee and some brisket.

Lauren:

Oh, yeah, oh, the Texas brisket. Yeah, now, you're really, now you're doing it, yeah, you're doing it right.

DeeDee:

I know I love brisket. It's my kryptonite.

Lauren:

We enjoy a good brisket over here.

Frank:

But also all that is to say that I was just trying to not say coffee, because, yeah, coffee, I do that. I have some of those. What do you call it? It's like a mushroom coffee. It's similar, but I put it in my regular coffee.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

And boy, that's how I start my days. Yeah, and I like it a lot With your. And boy do I? That's how I start my days. Yeah, and I like it a lot with your mud. Yeah, I call it. I call it my morning mud. Lauren's like that's not coffee, I'm like it's my morning mud.

Frank:

Let me have it literally matcha, and coffee yeah, I'll throw a scoop of matcha in there too, it's not good. I have not done that yet, but I'm gonna it's not great, but I like it, but also yeah it's a weird combo it's earthy it's not bad.

Lauren:

It's just like what is going on in that cup listen he doesn't sweeten it at all. I wouldn't expect the marshmallow.

Frank:

Yeah, I wouldn't expect the marshmallow queen to like my mud, my mud, joe well, I can, I can, I can see where frank's coming from.

DeeDee:

I don't sweeten mine either, and and it drives my husband crazy, oh my.

Lauren:

God.

Frank:

Sometimes, if I'm feeling fancy, I'll throw in a scoop of like one scoop of coconut sugar, which is like the least sugary thing you can do Get wild. Yeah, that's wild for me.

Lauren:

Yeah.

Frank:

That's so funny.

Lauren:

Oh man, I'm like I. We have to. We have to go talk, we have to see a light show in Austin.

DeeDee:

I know I have so many more questions, but I think we'll just do it in person yeah, we can have a round table with you guys there with us and you can ask all the questions you want that would be fun.

Frank:

let me ask you one more question then we'll wrap it up. Yeah, but like, if anybody encounters an elemental or any kind of like nature-based spirit, that and they say that they feel like their space has been invaded, what can we do to, kind of like, rectify that?

DeeDee:

What I'm finding out is that elementals really enjoy shiny objects.

Frank:

Like leprechauns or raccoons.

DeeDee:

Yeah, like they really love shiny glittery things. So if you want to be like, hey, you know, I know I pulled up that shrub, you know, in the left corner of the yard, you know, and I know I disrupted like your whole vibe back here, so I'm going to put down like a little gnome home and a little, you know, disco ball planter thing and just kind of show you some love. That is helpful because they love shiny glittery things, they love little houses, they love. Oh, they love.

Lauren:

Um, the shinier the better oh, just wait till we tell our daughter about this oh, that's right up.

Frank:

Yeah, making like a gnome discotheque is going to be perfect, that's my weekend activity now yeah, like, and she's going to be like.

Lauren:

yeah, I mean, she created a fairy house over the summer. She's like I don't think we had shiny things in there. Maybe we can actually get some activity. We need water. We need a water source.

Frank:

I should ask one more question before we go, related to what we're saying right now. There's so much lore about fairies in particular and like how I know, like the, what is it like? The, the irish or the scottish fae are such a thing that are like respected but also feared, in a way like have you experienced anything like that?

DeeDee:

that would be indicative that they are like something to be afraid of um, I've only met one character that I that I thought was pretty, uh, intimidating. Um, it was also a character that sarah saw as well, and she actually drew him. He kind of looked like he had, he had legs, he, so he looked like a human and he was very muscular, he had horns and he had like a, a very decorative breastplate, and it was basically. He was basically on the outskirts of a house that we were looking at and we had asked can we go beyond these gates? And she's like, sure, go for it.

DeeDee:

And we had gone beyond the gates and I had sensed him immediately. But Sarah saw him and I was like I don't, I'm not a fan of his energy, woo, he's a lot. And so she took some time, set some time aside and she actually drew him and, uh, I would have to say he's probably the only intimidating one that I've come across. But also, too, I felt like in that area again, this land hadn't been touched in a long time. It's pretty, um, pretty much, um, I think it's several acres that hadn't been touched there's trails back there there to walk, but as far as that nothing's really been done.

DeeDee:

I feel like he is the head honcho there. He is the main guy. Like whatever happens he he has it has to be run past him before anything can happen.

Frank:

And did you sense that that was actually like an elemental spirit or that it was maybe something else? Cause I've heard a lot about Native American. I don't know what to call them exactly. I think they've been called like egregores or something. But is that the right word? Or it's like a thought manifestation, like a thought spirit, like something you manifest in your belief in it?

DeeDee:

I feel like he was more elemental than anything, wow.

Lauren:

Wow, I wonder, does Sarah still have that photo or that drawing? Because I want to write to her and see if she could send me a picture. I'm sure she does.

DeeDee:

But this woman has tons of notebooks of drawings. I don't know if she's able to find it. She has lots of notebooks of drawings that she's done. So that would be the hard part. It's for the notebook it's in because she has a lot.

Frank:

Okay, notebook gets in because she has a lot Okay. So it sounds like the basic protocol when you step into some natural space is to show up with respect. Don't act a fool.

Lauren:

Introduce yourself. Introduce yourself.

Frank:

And you know what? Leave it better than you found it, even if better than you found it involves a disco ball gotta show the love, love that that's so funny oh my gosh that's awesome. Okay, alright yeah, dee, dee is amazing this is so cool, dee, you're really cool.

Lauren:

Is there anything.

Frank:

I never asked anybody this, but is there anything that you wish we would have asked you in the interview?

DeeDee:

There is one thing I wanted to talk to you guys about. So there, well, there's a couple of things. Healings is something that I do and I noticed on your questionnaire is is, uh, you asked, do you work with children? Um, and, with my healing work, I do actually work with children, Um. As far as healings, um, yeah, I, I work on kids. I have, uh, two or three clients right now, um, that are processing some trauma right now as we speak and they, you know, basically come with their parents and we kind of do like a gut check and have conversations and then start doing the energy work and they sleep a little bit better that night and then we just meet up on a consistent basis and touch base and if they've had a really rough week, say lots of tests and things of that nature, they'll be like, hey, can we squeeze in an energy healing? I feel like my levels are at a 10 and I need to be at a five. Can we get together?

DeeDee:

And like yeah, so I have a mobile healing service that I go out to their house so that when I leave, they get to stay home service that I go out to their house so that when I leave, they get to stay home, chill out, decompress and I cruise on home, but they're in a space that they're safe in, that they know they're fine in, and I love being able to do the service at their house and then bounce and that way they can just chill out in their house, not have to worry about driving or going to Smarty.

Frank:

That's so great. It's probably so much easier to like integrate, reintegrate what they've learned or the healing if they're already in their space. It's not like out of their environment, where they're just in the healing mindset, when they're just, like you know, with you in, like an office or something.

DeeDee:

Yeah, yeah, yeah that is really smart. I have a kiddo that she purposely like will eat her dinner, go take her bath and everything like that. So when I show up she's in her pajamas.

Frank:

And so.

DeeDee:

I do the work while she's in her pajamas, and then she goes straight to bed.

Lauren:

Like she she doesn't do anything.

DeeDee:

So she like makes sure she's ready to go. So like, yeah, when I work on her, she's on her pajamas and we crack up, and she's like her pajamas and we crack up and she's like next time can you come in your pajamas?

Lauren:

I'm like, I absolutely can and I will. Oh my god that's so cute. Oh, that's awesome I love that that's so cool is your healing, um? Is it? Is it reiki? Is it? Does it have its own? Have you created your own like modality, have you incorporated multiple different, like energy healings or like what is your style?

DeeDee:

um, I get it. I hear a lot that it's compared to reiki. Um, I haven't personally sat down with somebody who does reiki to know that if it's the same thing, um, I just know that, basically, when I do my healings, the healing comes from source and it just filters down through my head and it comes out through my arms and then out of my hands, and that's something that, like I said before, is one of those things I struggled with in the very beginning that I could do that, but it seems to be something that just speaks to my spirit. So, um, I I really don't enjoy doing it for other people, um, and and being there to help them on their journey, because a lot of people are like well, I'm curious, so I'm just going to dip my toe in. So, you know, I'll schedule a session with you and then later on they're like well, I'm still a little curious, so I'll schedule another session.

Frank:

That's so cool that you like, developed your own, like it's just an intuitive, like healing that you're, you've, you've created, like you just know how to do it.

DeeDee:

Yeah, it's basically when I do it. Um, sarah said that when she's when she sees me do it, she says there's a whole different team of divines that come up behind me and they're there and present while I'm doing it. I haven't seen them because I'm focused on what I'm doing. But she says she's seen them and I'm like, wow, that's fantastic that a whole different group of divines come up behind me to watch me do exactly what I'm doing. And so I'm like, okay, very cool, very cool that's awesome, yeah amazing, y'all are so cool over there.

Frank:

Yeah, in Texas, well good did you have anything else that you wanted to throw out or mention, or?

DeeDee:

I totally thought of you guys and I had to. I wanted to share the story with you, with both of you. Um, so my friends and I went to a restaurant and we're having, you know, a lovely, a lovely lunch, and, um, behind me I can't see cause they're directly behind me there's a couple, it's a guy and a man, a guy and a girl and, um, they're whispering to each other, blah, blah, and they're whispering to each other, blah, blah. The next thing I hear is I hear as if someone took their hand and slammed it down on the table that they were at, and I was like, well, and I'm the only one who jumped. So I'm like, oh no, so I just stayed.

DeeDee:

I stayed facing my party. I didn't look around, but I could hear what was going on. And there was a lady yelling at the couple and I was like, okay, if I turn around, she knows I'm going to be able to hear her. So I'm like, let me just stay, not just stay at the direction I am. And my friend goes are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give me just a minute the direction I am. And my friend goes are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, give me just a minute. And listening to this lady, it turns out she was the wife of the guy that was there with her best friend and they just left the wife's funeral.

Frank:

Oh my God, they'd been seeing each other.

DeeDee:

They'd been seeing each other for months and she didn't know until she passed no, so she was letting them have it. Um, but I'm the only one who heard the bang on the table with her, like her hand, because she was like what? Oh my god and she was so mad, so I got up and I excused myself and I went to the ladies room and I came back because I I knew I couldn't turn around and look at her because then she'd want me to like relay everything and I was like yeah, no thanks.

DeeDee:

So I left, went to the ladies room and came back and when I did, she had, you know, quietened down quite a bit, but at least I could see her. And she had, you know, quietened down quite a bit but at least I could see her. And I went, I sat back at the table and my friend goes, are you okay? Like do we need to leave? And I'm like no, no, no, no, we're good, we're good. And she's like you sure, like yeah, I'm sure. And so this lady is behind me, is going how long has this been going on? Was this happening when I was alive? You two are awful. And then she just lit into them, but they can't hear her. So it just looks very like casual no one's like Ooh, that's insane, holy cow.

Frank:

How often does that happen to you, where you're like you're just seeing that kind of thing and no one else can can pick it up?

DeeDee:

I'm sure it happens all the time, yeah well, I I make an effort to not go into a lot of crowded places unless I have to, yeah, so it doesn't happen that often. Um, but yeah, that was surprising. I wasn't expecting that at all, I mean that's some juicy that is wild, that is some tree worthy gossip, holy cow.

Lauren:

Okay, that makes me wonder, though, like, like is the? I know, I'm just grunting we have, we have, like some people say like, oh, like once you, once you cross over, like it's all good, like you're just full of love. Was there an imprint or something that was like left with the husband?

Frank:

this sounds pretty active.

Lauren:

This is a good question, though how does that work, where, like because there's such a difference between like now I'm just one with everybody, but or are you still like pissed? Yeah, that was a lot of questions, yeah, one, but um, I just get like, how does that work?

DeeDee:

what it sounded like to me is that she didn't know any of this until she died, right because they'd hidden it so well. So to me it just sounded sounds like once she crossed over, she got the real dish on what was happening yeah and then came back to like lay into them so to to to like double down on your question.

Frank:

Yeah, in a way. Then, to be more specific, I have noticed that people that come from the uh, the spiritualist tradition, they often, uh, we'll say that, like once you pass, like there's nothing but love and light, and like, but then I'm like, well, I've seen Sarah and DD and the whole MPU team go out there and have to deal with some like not so healed people in spirit form.

Lauren:

Yeah, I'm trying to understand where you evolve as a spirit, where you just become like back in the collective and you could be anywhere all the time, or where you're just like wait. But first I have to process this very earthly thing where I'm pissed off because I just learned something about my stupid husband. Yeah, best friend, yeah, I friend, yeah.

Frank:

I guess. I guess we're just pointing out the the division between these two different like schools of thought, I suppose. Yeah.

DeeDee:

Yeah, I think she had to handle business first before she ventured off to do other things. I think, that was her, her goal.

Lauren:

That makes sense.

Frank:

I mean yeah, yeah.

Lauren:

Just like have to like. You know, I think also, part of it is like for our, for our earthbound brains, where time is a thing I'm like well, she had to like this is a thing that needs to be addressed right now. Yeah, that's so, it's so. That's so fascinating to me it is it is.

DeeDee:

And then I was like this you know what this is worthy to share with frank and lauren?

Frank:

I need to tell you oh what a crazy story incredible I love those two are just carrying on.

Lauren:

Yeah, the funeral, or like the day of the funeral, or after.

DeeDee:

Oh my god yeah, after their funeral, because basically she said they had enough decency to go home and change their clothes and then they went out to eat together yuck yeah, that's so crazy it was a really bizarre situation

Frank:

name names. Let's call them out right. Let's stick our viewership on this. Oh my God, that's so funny.

DeeDee:

You're in the Austin area, have you seen this couple eat together?

Lauren:

Yeah, you like cracked a case.

Frank:

Yeah.

Lauren:

Didi, where can everyone find you if they want your services or just learn more about you? Give us all your plugs.

DeeDee:

Yeah, so if people are interested in personal intuitive readings or animal communications or healing hand sessions, definitely feel free to reach out. I'm going to be available at hawkhealinghandscom. You can also find me on Instagram and Facebook under DD Hawk. That's D E E, d, d E H A W K. And yeah, feel free to reach out to me and we'll start the journey together.

Lauren:

Love it.

Frank:

Is is. Is that a chosen name or is that your actual name, cause it's like the coolest.

Lauren:

I was going to say how cool your name is.

DeeDee:

It's actually given to me by by sarah. That's oh only cooler. I love that dd hawk by sarah that's amazing, that's awesome all right yeah, perfect.

Frank:

Beautiful. Thank you so much for talking with us today and taking your time with us Like we asked ridiculous questions and thank you.

DeeDee:

I'm so glad you guys asked me. I'm so honored to be on your, to be on your podcast and, yeah, I can't wait to for you guys to get here to Texas so we can meet in person.

Lauren:

Yes, us too, thank you.

DeeDee:

Vicky.

Lauren:

Yeah, have a good one.

Frank:

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