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Pitch to Pro is the official podcast of Ozark United FC. This will be our platform to tell our story about the club and the special place that we call home, Northwest Arkansas. This is a journey. We want to bring you along for the ride. We'll share what's going on behind the curtain, help educate the community at large about soccer, Our league, and give updates on the progress of the club along the way.
Together, we'll explore and unpack our journey to professional soccer, the magic that is NWA, our community, and talk all things soccer from on the pitch to behind the scenes, telling the story of our club.
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Ep. 34 - From First-Generation Roots to Coaching Pioneer
Nelson Medina returns with more captivating tales from the pitch, expanding on his journey from a first-generation American rooting himself in San Diego to an esteemed soccer career with the Nomads, Oklahoma City University, and the Oklahoma City Slickers. As we sit down with Nelson, he opens up about the pivotal moments that steered him toward coaching, particularly the influence of his mentor, Brian Harvey. Nelson also takes us on a personal journey, sharing how love and career brought him to the burgeoning soccer scene of Northwest Arkansas, a place where he envisions nurturing local talent and creating a robust soccer future.
Soccer in Northwest Arkansas is blossoming, and Nelson stands at the forefront with his prestigious US Soccer A coaching license. His story emphasizes the rarity and importance of such credentials in this region compared to larger soccer hubs like Dallas. Nelson reflects on the challenges faced by fellow coaches adapting to international standards and shares his vision for the area's soccer landscape. With a growing community and infrastructure, there's excitement about possibly establishing a USL Championship presence, along with the goal of creating pathways for local players to shine on national and international stages.
Soccer's power to unite is a recurring theme as we explore how it transforms fierce rivals into teammates, drawing inspiration from insights shared by Matthew McConaughey. Our conversation shifts to the achievements of our local U20 boys' academy team, a melting pot of talent from diverse backgrounds, triumphing in the UPSL against seasoned competition. This episode celebrates these young athletes' journeys, offering a glimpse into their experiences and the vibrant soccer culture that continues to flourish in Northwest Arkansas. Join us in this celebration of community, growth, and the ever-expanding world of soccer in this dynamic region.
Pitch to Pro is the official podcast of Ozark United FC. This will be our platform to tell our story about the club and the special place that we call home, Northwest Arkansas. This is a journey we want to bring you along for the ride. We'll share what's going on behind the curtain, help educate the community at large about soccer, our league, and give updates on the progress of the club along the way. Together, we'll explore and unpack our journey to professional soccer, the magic that is NWA, our community, and talk all things soccer from on the pitch to behind the scenes, telling the story of our club.
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Speaker 2:Hello everybody and welcome back to the Pitch to Pro podcast. I'm your host, wes Harris, managing Director for Ozark United FC, northwest Arkansas' pro soccer club, playing in the United Soccer League Today. I am super happy to welcome back Mr Nelson Medina, who is the Director of Coaching and Player Development at Arkansas Comets FC local club here in Northwest Arkansas, coming back for picking up where we left off off of the last episode and conversation. Nelson, just first thank you for coming back, welcome, and I just want to give a quick recap. We kind of talked a little bit more high-level kind of your playing days coming over. Just give people a quick recap on you know you first-generation American Portuguese family. Give people a little bit of quick background on who you are, very high-level recap on what we talked about last time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, just born and raised in San Diego from a Portuguese family first generation and just kind of climbed up the player development ranks, from playing youth soccer out in San Diego with the Nomads and then worked my way through the ODP, back then the Nomads, and then played at Oklahoma City University and then a little bit of professional ball with the Oklahoma City Slickers. In spirit, hey-oh yeah.
Speaker 1:US ISL.
Speaker 3:Yeah, back when I was young, but um, yeah. And then I got involved in coaching at a young age. Even when I was playing, I knew that's what I wanted to do one day and so yeah, so uh here I am you know, like 30 years later still coaching. So yeah, so talk.
Speaker 2:You know we talked a little bit more about kind of your background, the game at large in the us, how it's evolved, um, and all the great slate of amazing, incredible soccer tournaments and events that are coming to the US over. You know already started last summer with Copa America, all the way through to potentially Women's World Cup here in 2031 and obviously the Coup de Grace in 2026 with the FIFA Men's World Cup. But you know I want to take this conversation and kind of bring it down to Northwest Arkansas, bro. Bring it down. You know the lens in the funnel a little bit and talk about our area. How did a kid from San Diego, growing up and playing some incredible soccer, make his way to Northwest Arkansas?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a really crazy story and I don't think we have enough time.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so my, my wife is from Prairie.
Speaker 3:Grove. Yeah, it's a really crazy story and I don't think we have enough time. Yeah, so my wife is from Prairie Grove, okay, born and raised, you know, graduated from the U of A Sumuka Miladi. Yeah, there you go. She's a speech pathologist and I actually met her in Vegas years ago when we were very young, okay, and then we lost touch and somehow she actually found me on the internet for the club I was coaching with in Vegas and we had just one stay and we were going to regionals in Hawaii and next thing, you know, she ends up coming out there and, wow, we're married a year later and nine months later we have a son, jackson.
Speaker 1:It was a good trip to Hawaii. It was a great trip to Hawaii. Good things happen when you're away. It was a good trip to Hawaii. It was a great trip to Hawaii.
Speaker 3:Good things happen when you're away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:So that's awesome.
Speaker 3:That's what brought me out here a few years later. So this is my second time out here. Okay, yeah, I was here from 2010 through 2014. Okay, and so I was the technical director with the Comets back then. Okay, and it was a little different back then. Yeah, a lot of growth since then. And, yeah, went back to Vegas, was there for for almost 10 years and we just came back a couple of years ago. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:So how did you get you know you transition from player to to coach? How did you? You said you knew you wanted that's what you wanted to do from a young age. Talk about how you kind of found your way and got into coaching. I know you had some great coaches growing up, but talk about that journey.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think my biggest influence was really Brian Harvey, my coach that coached me professionally at Oklahoma City University, and so he just took me under his wing and I knew that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be involved in the game my entire life. Just have so much love and passion for the game. It's just been in my DNA my whole life coming. Just have so much love and passion for the game. It's just been, you know, in my DNA my whole life, coming from a European family. So you know he did say, hey, you're not going to make a lot of money doing this, but if it's what you want to do and I knew right there and then.
Speaker 3:So he gave me my first coaching job when I was in school and then just kind of worked my way through the ranks through US Soccer Federation's education, so started getting all the licenses at my young, early career and then, you know, finally got my license back in 2013.
Speaker 2:So talk a little bit about that, because there's probably people that may not know about the different classifications within. Yeah, I know there's a whole other organization, but within us soccer, what are the different levels, what do they mean at each level?
Speaker 3:that then, once you're credentialed at that level, you can go and do yeah, it's changed over the years, so when I first went through it, you know, as everything does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly the runaway freight train, if you've listened to the last episode.
Speaker 3:Exactly so it originally was where you would start off with an F and then work your way all the way through up to an A, and then those classes were more of a weekend, you know, you'd spend some time with an instructor and they'd have a class, and then, almost like you know, soccer for dummies type thing, you know at a young age, and then you'd have a lot of dads that would just get involved in the game and had a daughter or son that played and wanted to be able to coach through rec and whatever. So that's how it starts off with those lower license. And then obviously the first national was the D. And so you know, back in the day, if you got a D license, it was actually a national license and that gave you the opportunity to travel out of state with your club team. And then the big one came in is with the C, the national C.
Speaker 3:And so you know, universities over the years have kind of changed their ways, but at one point it kind of got you into a university, you know, having that kind of education in the game, which they got a lot more functional training, specific detail training, you know, uh, working on a topic, whatever it was, if it's, you know, building out of the bag, switching the point of attack, you know, um, you know, link up, play in the final third, what, whatever it is, um. So that's kind of where you start to learn your, your training session, how to run a functional, specific session. And then the B, you know, really got you into more professional, you know, and how to deal with professional athletes you know that are making way more money than you and the egos and all that and how to manage that. That was more like a manager position People manager that's exactly right, yeah. People manager that's exactly right, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then the a license really, you know, gave you um how to be a leader of the club, um, maybe even coach a national team. And that's how it all started, you know, back in the day. And now it's changed, where they've gotten rid of the e and the f, yeah those are more like the grassroots, if I can speak 100 yep, and they're online now yeah, which is different, yeah, although, because I'm literally in this position now.
Speaker 2:for anybody looking to go get their d license, I think unless you can get an exemption from someone at US soccer, you have to have to go for your d license. You have to have your four grassroots completed, which are available online, but you have to have two of them completed in person to be eligible. So even if you've done them that's what Nelson and I talked the other day off camera, offline about my coaching journey and me potentially going to get a D license and this started to come up where I was like, okay, I can just knock out the other two online really quick, but to go for your D you have to have two of your grassroots in person now, which I know that that changes the whole dynamic of the course and is important Especially. I mean all of these are most of these are 99% in person from D through A right.
Speaker 3:That's right. And then once you get up into the A or I think even the B, where it's more of a like a six month education to where you have to do field session, videotape them and then send them in to US Soccer and then they'll send out an instructor to evaluate you. So I think that way is more beneficial for the coach and now you have more time to study when when I did it you crammed it in like seven to nine days. You know, crash course it was and you were up all night long and it was.
Speaker 3:It was pretty stressful and I think at the time, um, what the number was was like 25% of of classes. You know, whatever, you have 50 kids there, you know would would, uh, coaches would, would pass. It was just the stress and I I mean there's great coaches out there that I was with that would go through the course and I mean they knew it inside and out and they did well. And then they got on the field session and they just got nervous and bombed it and they didn't get their A, which I thought was uh was wrong on how they did it back then. I think because of that is why they changed it. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, give people a little bit more time to get comfortable, absolutely Understand and practice and ask questions.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's about educating people and giving them the knowledge and all that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You're not there for the grade right, You're there to further the game. That's exactly right Ultimately, the more coaches that you can develop.
Speaker 3:That's right, and the more high-level coaches you have on those green grass fields across this country, the more you're going to develop period. Yeah, absolutely, With the right education absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I found that out and I was like, oh man, now I got to go find out where the grassroots in persons are in North or anywhere close to Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 3:They don't make it easy. You know what I mean. They don't man.
Speaker 2:I tell you what some of that and you know what we're not sharing too is. You know, especially as you get higher, towards those B or A licensed coaches. I mean, you're talking about one or two a year and, yeah, they're six months, but you're going for four, five, six weekends out to San Diego or to Florida or wherever it is that they're holding it. It's a real commitment. It gets costly A real commitment on the coach's side once you start going down the pathway of D to A. If that's what you want, yeah, 100%. You know a lot of clubs and even tournaments now and leagues will require, you know, at the higher levels will require a D license at minimum, because that's the first national standard right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think that's important because you need to have coaches that have an understanding of the game and all that. Yeah, that know what they're doing. Oh, 100%, and then it elevates the game. It elevates the event, the tournament, the showcase, whatever it is. I know, at one point, before ECNL had branched off with the boys and all the different pathways that popped out, at one point I think they were mandating to have a minimum P at one point. You know that's what they were yeah, striving to go. Yeah, I don't think they got there because of of when covet hit and all that right, and the and the da went when crumbling and then the ga popped up and yeah, all the next um pathways. But I think that's what they're trying to do, you know, and they're really good about educating the coaches and they have their own coach education that they have the coaches do every year and upgrade it every year. So I think that's important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's definitely something that we hope to continue to build and elevate here in NWA as part of our mission, so hopefully there's going to be some more licensed coaches. I don't know about A man. You're one of few in Arkansas. I don't know the exact numbers so I don't want to get caught out here.
Speaker 2:but few, yeah, few, not not that, at least that I'm aware of um, but then you get into an area like dallas or southern california yeah, no, there's, they've got a lot of them out there, so that that's why the quality is so high yeah, and just like this isn't a job interview, nelson, but uh, for for our listeners, the fact that he is an, a licensed coach, us soccer a licensed coach that makes him qualified to coach professionally in the highest levels of the game in the united states, and I think even there's some transferability with uefa, right, yeah, if you have an, a license at a certain time that's a.
Speaker 3:That's funny. You said that because I have a really good friend, um, good buddy of mine that um coached, coached me in vegas and and, uh, he's portuguese as well, and so he went. He went back to portugal and he went there with his a um and he was coaching for a pro team and once they they realized that he only had his uFA B, he actually was suspended. Oh no, yeah, because they want you to have UFA there, which is you know, it's the granddaddy of them all.
Speaker 3:Right, that's the granddaddy of them all and the global game. You have that you can go anywhere in the world, absolutely, so he's working to get it now. Okay, but interesting that so RA doesn't translate, but they're in it but there it is.
Speaker 2:It makes sense right. Yeah, yeah yeah, okay, I guess for now. Maybe, one day it'll become a global standard somewhere, but at least in the US Mr Nelson can coach professionally.
Speaker 3:It's pretty cool. Yeah, that's awesome. It's a good certificate to have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, it's got to be. You know that means anything, that you're a part of man. You know that the kids are getting, you know, a great education from someone that's, you know, been trained at the highest levels of the game within the U? S. It's very rare, you know so, to have that, uh, you know, here in NWA fantastic. So you know, appreciate everything that you're doing. So let's, let's translate into that. I mean, you've, you've been here. You're a boomerang like me. You were here for a period. You were part of the game and you went away for a period and then you came back. Did you kind of go Holy cow, stuff has changed here now. Yeah, uh, when you came back, even in that short amount of time, it was, it was massive.
Speaker 3:Um, we would come back every year to see my wife's family for Christmas, yeah, um. So you know, we, uh, we got to see some of the, some of the development, but to actually be back living here again, it just it blows my mind still. I mean, just driving through Rogers and seeing the development Rogers alone is just in the 10 years I was gone, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean even, even a town like Farmington.
Speaker 3:The growth there, you know, is just, it's just insane Um, so it's, it's happening everywhere. Um, it's a beautiful place, as uh, as everyone knows that comes out here. I still think it's a kept secret, hidden gem, yeah, definitely, um, just absolutely beautiful, um, but a lot of room to grow still. You know, yeah, and I just think that you know, as you're building those houses out here, you know that means families and that means kids and that equals soccer players to me.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right it does Right you know.
Speaker 3:So I like to tell some of my friends back home that you know, northwest Arkansas kind of reminds me of, of dallas when I was younger, you know as a youth player going out there and playing the dallas cup. Um, it's got it's got that that that you know. Southern bell, country charm to it, right, and just tons of land, and look what happened to to dallas out boomed, um, and so I'm hoping that's going to happen out here. So that way, uh, you know, we can get a national champion out here, we can have a USL championship out here. We can put kids and players overseas across the pond right here from Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 2:The talent's here man, and you see it, absolutely, you see it. I mean there's talent here and you know that's part of what we were doing with the U20 boys and helping provide that solution. But I mean the talent's here, yep, just undiscovered, that's all. We just need to build a pathway. We need to give the right infrastructure and the resources to help drive it and elevate the game and help bring the level of competition that's going to allow them to iron sharpens iron right, that's right. That sharpens iron right, that's right. Uh, that allows them to continue to get better, to take that next step right in a little bit more bigger, you know, bigger way than just one every, you know, couple of years. Um, but the talent's here, man, you see it.
Speaker 3:Definitely, it definitely is. Yeah, I see it on the field, especially on the boys side. It's, uh, especially spring, dylan rogers is saturated with yeah, with with talented players really really do so, and we've and we've had, we've had some really good players. My first time around here, we had some really good players. We were with the comments that went on and and and played abroad. So so, yeah, it's here.
Speaker 2:It's here. It's here, it's been happening for years and it just you know. Hopefully we can continue to be additive and elevate the game and and continue to just raise that level and make it more of a possibility for all those young players right that we talked about in the last episode. If you're a player and you're playing World Cup or whatever it is, and you're pointing to your back and saying the name and you hope one day that can be you, we hope to provide that here.
Speaker 3:Just to touch on that, like talking about that Springdale Rodgers, I'm sure there's players in Benville, they're all over Fayetteville, but it's a hotbed in this area of those two towns and I've always told all my friends back on the West Coast that that area, this area in Northwest Arkansas, is a perfect area for an academy, just because of the amount of talent we have out here that's undiscovered, which gives them a pathway, you know.
Speaker 2:And there's not a real close one. Like right now people are driving to KC, that's right. Like if that's the path and they can do it, like that's such a commitment. Three hours, one way for practice, man.
Speaker 3:Well, and then being away from home too, yeah, when you end up signing over there and you're away from your family and friends, and so that's tough too on a young kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean, hopefully we can again try to develop that pathway. So I mean that kind of dovetails a little bit into I mean, what do you think about USL Championship and Super League trying to come to Northwest Arkansas man?
Speaker 3:What's that going to do for the area? Like the players, what do you think? I think it's awesome? Um, like I mentioned before, it's prime. It's the perfect timing for it and, uh, you know, it's so diverse out here. You know, I think it's like 60, 60 percent, if I'm correct, with um.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not international, from the area. Yeah, yeah, and so you know, with the Fortune 500 companies we have out here, what they bring in from a standpoint of the diversity, I think definitely have the fan base to support it. You've got educated fans out here that are hungry, they're craving it, they want it. Why drive to Kansas City when you can have it in your backyard? And why drive to Kansas City when you can have it in your backyard? Absolutely, and I think all of Northwest Arkansas is going to rally behind Ozark United.
Speaker 2:So it's pretty exciting times. It's kind of that. You know, what I love is about the beautiful game in general Is it such a just cut through the anything in life and it's a unifier. You know, I think it was actually like McConaughey when he started getting involved with Austin. I think he said it beautifully. It was like one of the most globally universal handshakes in the world is dropping a soccer ball at your feet and saying kind of like a head nod, let's go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember that quote and he's just saying it just brings everybody together.
Speaker 2:It's the one game that brings everybody together.
Speaker 2:You don't need to know any kind of language Like I could be in the middle of Africa and not know anything and drop a round ball object on the dirt grass wherever I'm at on a pitch and not know a language anywhere and just hey, let's go, that's right, and you can just start playing and having a blast and you're connecting and making those connections already. That's right. So you know, that's, I think, what I love about what the game can do for this area and bring together all the different. You know we're a community of communities and everybody comes together as a region, but you know, play in our own sandboxes a little bit. So this can be something one of the things right that occasionally we come together and have something that unites all of us. Yeah, I agree with you. Well said for sure.
Speaker 2:So, and we see it I mean, you know, we saw it with our U20 boys. We had nine different high schools represented on the U20 boys academy team from five different club teams in the area. That's pretty awesome, so cool, so cool to see. I mean you had kids that had maybe never really spoken to each other and they played against each other like fierce rivals. Right, like club soccer can be tribal man. You get some rivalries going, which is great, right, that builds that competition. But then now they're teammates. I mean, your experience is at the professional level, right, like as your, your career goes. You may just have this arch rival man and you just go up against this player constantly and then one day you're finding yourself on, you know, in the locker room with them. You know, did you ever experience?
Speaker 3:anything like that. Oh yeah, absolutely. It's some guy. You look across the field and you want to get your studs in there, right?
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, then you end up being one of his best friends later on because you're teammates. You know what I mean. Right, it's the player that you know you may not want to play against, but you love to play with. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely unifies. Everybody really does so. That's very cool, yeah, so I'm sure those guys were pumped up and they had a good season this year too. They did.
Speaker 2:They made the playoffs as a U20 roster in the UPSL. I mean that's great competition. There's a lot of you look at some of the resumes of the players that they played against and there's some like legit pro teams that are on these. You know some of these other players like Wolves and Tulsa Athletic and some of these other teams out there bringing some former pros out there still playing at an extremely high level, I mean, and to have our boys out there at U20, most of them are still in high school or just graduated Incredible, yeah, it's a great experience. So you know we're going to share more about their experience here now that they're done with their season. We'll have a couple of them on the show here. But talk a little bit about how you've seen the game change in NWA probably from you know, I'm imagining you know from your first kind of time and then now coming back and being here a few years and kind of where we're going and what you're seeing from the game and the growth there in the area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the biggest change is obviously more players are playing the game. Yeah, yeah, so you know, my first time around there was really only two clubs in the area and now it's grown to, I think, nine clubs, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, don't quote me on that, but I believe that's what I heard. And then I think, from a standpoint from coaching, you know, um, we've got some, we got some good coaches in the area. We got some, um, some young coaches that are upcoming, um, great passion, really good people, really good people. Um, and then, um, the other thing is just a standpoint from you know, basically doing your two days a week for an hour and a half, you know. And then, um, the other thing is just a standpoint from you know, basically doing your two days a week for an hour and a half, you know, and then playing in the state league and then taking the summer off and taking the winter off, you know, because of where we're at in the weather.
Speaker 3:Um, that's changed, like now we're an all year round program. It seems like all the clubs are now all year round. Um, we're out there training in the cold, you know, um, you know, and then, um, and then, with the pathways that we have here, you know. So, um, now we're training three days a week, sometimes playing three games in a weekend, especially if you got a showcase or you have an event out of town, right, um, so now it's, it's, it's. It's changed things. You know, we're trying to develop kids, not to say that we didn't have really good teams back then, because we did. We had a team here and there. You know, maybe one in Little Rock, a couple up in Northwest Arkansas did some good things, some really good teams, but it seems like we're producing better players now, and so it's just evolved, you know, yeah, and it's going to continue to evolve. So I'm pretty excited about where Northwest Arkansas is, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the level. You know I wasn't as involved coaching as you were, but I did referee in my first stint here and even from that standpoint, you know watching some of the level that's grown. And I think your point earlier about making it more of a year-round thing, I think the level of commitment, um, from some of these players, which just helps, you know, grow the, the talent base too, um, and the level right, oh, 100, you know. So you're touching the ball more, you're, you're just natural coming to you at your feet and and ability to dedicate the time. It's just only going to make you better. So it's great to see, it's awesome, what you're doing at Comets, especially on the girl side. I love the development there in the ECNL. It's incredible to have that pathway started now in NWA, man. But if we could close with one thing, man, what are you looking forward to with the with the club coming?
Speaker 3:I'm looking forward to going and seeing the game and being in that. That's shiny new stadium.
Speaker 3:Maybe in the supporter section you know what I mean and and just seeing the talent and yeah and uh, we got to start somewhere, but uh, I'm real excited about that and just seeing the passion of the community come together and all that it's pretty exciting because it's like in Vegas. I spent a lot of time in Vegas. I probably spent about 20 years in Vegas coaching, and when the Golden Knights came in the NHL, yeah, it was, it was vegas born was a motto and that's what I kind of feel like. What ozark united is, it's, it's, it's uh, northwest arkansas board. You know what I mean? Yeah, so it's not like a transplant, it's not a, uh, a usl club, that's that's, you know, moving, it's it's the community's very own professional club. So I think that's really really cool and cool.
Speaker 2:And at this level too, and you've seen it, you've been around if you have the Vegas Lights out there in the championship, they're so grassroots based and just so embedded in the community. So I know I keep saying it, but people, I'm a broken record at this point. So it's fun to hear we always ask people what are you excited about? And I think it's fun to hear you know we always ask people, you know, what are you excited about? Um, and I think it's just that connection to the club as a pro soccer is just different, yeah, as a as a fan than than these other sports, and I love them, but for me, I mean, I'm biased, I'm a son of a nut, but you know I can sit here and say that all day, but uh, well, man, thank you so much for just your passion, your dedication to the game and growing good human beings on and off the pitch. It's incredible what you guys are doing over there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you for having me. It was my pleasure and you guys are doing great things. You know you and Warren and Chris, so we're behind you man, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, nelson. Well, that's it for this episode of Pitch the Pro. We hope you enjoyed it. Be of Pitch the Pro. We hope you enjoyed it. Be sure to catch all of our episodes at pitchtheprocom or look for Pitch the Pro on YouTube, spotify, apple, wherever you get your podcasts for more content.
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