Have you ever wondered how Emily Whitehurst, fondly known as Agent M, went from the much-loved "Mushy Love Song" to a Twitch Streaming, cover recording, cookie baking, solo artist? Well, brace yourself for an intriguing conversation! This sensational episode takes you on the dynamic journey of Emily, from her days as the frontwoman of the eclectic punk band Tsunami Bomb, onto her latest release, Death Dreams (out October 19th)!
We promise you a fly-on-the-wall perspective into the punk scene as Emily reminisces about her time on the Warped Tour, how her experiences in LA led to the writing of "Dawn on a Funeral Day", and her decision to branch out, discovering a unique sound while creating The Action Design. We navigate the early years of Survival Guide, including her streaming on Twitch and how it built her confidence and helped shape her current music career.
In the final leg of our conversation, we get candid with Emily about the re-recording of old Tsunami Bomb tracks, the changing dynamics of female-fronted punk bands, and the exhilarating thrill of performing on stage. Not to miss, the pop punk trivia game after which the artist formerly known as Agent M wows us with her Lord of the Rings nerdom. Join us for a heartwarming chat with Emily, as we celebrate her remarkable journey from punk beginnings to solo successes.
Have you ever wondered how Emily Whitehurst, fondly known as Agent M, went from the much-loved "Mushy Love Song" to a Twitch Streaming, cover recording, cookie baking, solo artist? Well, brace yourself for an intriguing conversation! This sensational episode takes you on the dynamic journey of Emily, from her days as the frontwoman of the eclectic punk band Tsunami Bomb, onto her latest release, Death Dreams (out October 19th)!
We promise you a fly-on-the-wall perspective into the punk scene as Emily reminisces about her time on the Warped Tour, how her experiences in LA led to the writing of "Dawn on a Funeral Day", and her decision to branch out, discovering a unique sound while creating The Action Design. We navigate the early years of Survival Guide, including her streaming on Twitch and how it built her confidence and helped shape her current music career.
In the final leg of our conversation, we get candid with Emily about the re-recording of old Tsunami Bomb tracks, the changing dynamics of female-fronted punk bands, and the exhilarating thrill of performing on stage. Not to miss, the pop punk trivia game after which the artist formerly known as Agent M wows us with her Lord of the Rings nerdom. Join us for a heartwarming chat with Emily, as we celebrate her remarkable journey from punk beginnings to solo successes.
What's up everybody? Hello, hello, welcome. I am your host, the current reigning and defending third worst chess player on kick KD215, and this is the Bad Chess Podcast. Ah guys, the late Dick Clark often reminded us that music is the soundtrack of our lives. We use it to celebrate and mourn. It can relax us or pun plus up. Music is a part of who we are. It defines us as a species and as individuals.
Speaker 1:Over the course of growing up, our musical tastes change, oftentimes to fit the current season, but the bands that we feel connected to as teenagers and young adults seem to stick with us forever. Most people find themselves gravitating towards the pop music of the day, swooning over performers like the Beatles in sync or Taylor Swift. Others are attracted to outlier genres like hip hop or metal. For me, my love was punk music. I was raised on bands like the offspring, no effects and bad religion. Music in this genre wasn't always easy to find. Back then, to discover new bands, my friends and I would trade cassette mix tapes, and it was on one of those tapes that I first heard today's guest. Her music became such an integral part of many of my young adult memories and as I grew and matured, drifting from my angsty punk era to adulthood. So did she, originally known only as Agent M. For more than 25 years, emily Whitehurst has been the soundtrack of my life, and if you're unfamiliar with her work, here is a quick, mostly accurate introduction auto programme scenery.
Speaker 2:you hide you from his eyes.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the show. Sorry.
Speaker 3:I didn't. I didn't hear the random music.
Speaker 1:Oh well.
Speaker 3:I did.
Speaker 1:Good, I want you to know this. This interview is certainly going to be one of the highlights of my life. We we discussed that before in advance. You, you have really been, as I said in the intro, your music aged with me and grew with me. I think we're both very close in age. I don't want to, I don't want to spoil how old the other one of us are. So, you know, it's just, it's really cool to have you on. So thank you so much for coming and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thanks for having me. That video you put together was really awesome. You pulled out some super random clips there, so it's all YouTube. I don't even remember filming that.
Speaker 1:So you, you have a new album coming out this fall. It's called Death Dream, and we're going to talk about a little later.
Speaker 1:I don't I want to spend a lot of time talking about survival guide, but it would really be a disservice to everybody if we didn't talk about, you know, tsunami bomb and action design. I mean soon. Tsunami bomb to me was a very genre defining group in terms of female vocalists in punk bands. You know, prior to bands like tsunami bomb and it wasn't just you guys. Obviously there were other bands at the time. But if you remember the people, the generation right before you X-ray specs, for example, it was a lot of that heavy screaming music, and tsunami bomb was much more. It was. There was definitely screaming in the beginning, but it was much more melodic. You know, vocalists coming from female singers. How did you guys develop that sound?
Speaker 3:Well, the sound was very kind of all over the place. When I first joined the band. We had some like the earliest stuff is like spooky and almost like the original guitar player was like a rockabilly guy and the original drummer was just like a straight rock guy. It was just kind of this weird mishmash of music. And when we started writing for the first EP it just was like let's make this more punk, like let's get, let's get more, more punk. Just, I don't know if you're familiar with the really old material at all.
Speaker 1:Oh, like Invasion from within and prior to that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean Invasion was kind of on the border of that.
Speaker 3:It was like there's some songs that are like sound like pirate songs, which is not bad, it's not a bad thing, but yeah, it was just. It was just an interesting collection of sounds and I was coming from a pop punk like just a straight up like happy three piece pop punk band before tsunami bomb. So when I joined the band it was like the stuff that was already written was cool and we did. We we continued to do a few like interesting, weird things, but then we were like let's just get more, let's get more punk. But I've never been really much of a screamer, so I'm all about melody and yeah, so that that definitely was. I've always written all of my own lyrics and melodies, for the most part, so yeah, I suppose that was my influence.
Speaker 1:You talked about coming from another band and you and I spoke about this briefly before we started the stream. One of the songs that I think was the most people's first introduction to you is a mushy love song. I think a lot of people from our generation have heard that song and most people equate that with the tsunami bomb song, but it was in fact not a tsunami bomb song, correct? It was the Plinkies, or Plinky Plinky.
Speaker 3:Yes, just one singular Plinky. Yes, yeah, it was. It was initially a Plinky song and when I joined tsunami bomb it was like they only had because they had another singer before me for about six months or so and they had maybe like six songs. So when I joined the band it was like, well, let's, why don't we carry over? What do you guys think about mushy love song? You know like it's, this could go, this is, you know, this kind of fits. So we started playing it in tsunami bomb as well, and it's interesting because we never released it as a tsunami bomb song because it was on the split that the first tsunami bomb release ever was a split seven inch with Plinky and I was on both sides. So mushy love song was was on the Plinky side of that seven inch and then we just played it live. So I'm actually curious where you heard it. Was it like a bootleg copy or was it?
Speaker 1:a video or it was definitely a bootleg copy was? No, it was on a cassette tape. Somebody gave me a cassette tape with mushy love song on it and then I remember there was a record store in New Jersey where I grew up called vintage vinyl and somebody had written in the line you know, on the cassette tape that it was tsunami bomb. And so I remember going to vintage vinyl and looking and they had a vinyl and I want to say the cover. And I don't remember what the cover looked like. Please don't ask. It was so many years ago. I'm sold. I feel like it was photocopied, like the cover.
Speaker 1:Yeah that was it.
Speaker 3:That was B movie queens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. It was cool I had. I had a like I think I had two vinyls of tsunami bomb and I also had the original, which we'll get to action design in a minute. I feel like the action design. There were a couple of different versions of that first EP and I had like a four track one and a five track. Am I remembering that correctly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we, yeah, we did. We did a couple of different releases of that, of that first action design stuff. So yeah, you're right about B movie queens, we photocopied that ourselves at King goes and cut them out and assembled them and so that I definitely had that.
Speaker 1:That is the one that I had. Yeah, so when tsunami bomb first started, you were in your late teens and, if I recall correctly, you guys were very prolific touring band Right. What was that like at such a young age? You were touring as much as you guys did.
Speaker 3:I mean, I loved it. I thought it was super fun. We didn't tour when I first joined the band, like I probably wasn't 19, when, or you know well, actually I don't know, I'm not going to try to do the math right now, but but yeah, I guess I was pretty young. It was like just a big adventure and I feel like it actually shaped me a lot as an adult, like going from, you know, being a teen and then traveling all over, just having to solve all kinds of you know dilemmas that come up as you're touring around in a van that's bound to fall apart and finding places to stay and figuring out what to eat, and a lot of that was before we even had cell phones. So we had, you know, we, when we were able to start printing out maps, we were like this is amazing. We started out with an atlas, that is. That is, showing how old, how old we are right now. Sorry.
Speaker 1:I would also like to point out some of your earlier music. I'm sure I got for free on Napster no offense, I was a kid. I didn't really, you know, have money to go spending on albums.
Speaker 3:I never had anything against Napster, I'm not, lars.
Speaker 1:So as a tsunami bomb progressed, you guys did a lot of warp tour and a lot of times when I mentioned tsunami bomb everybody always says, oh, I remember them from warp tours and I remember the band's that are very much iconically linked with the war. For how, how did that come into play? For how did that fall in the place? For you guys, like, how did you get linked up with the warped or ended up doing so many dates over over those years with them?
Speaker 3:We I mean, we started at the bottom. We started with getting on the smallest, smallest side stage for a week, and I don't remember how we even did that, how we achieved that goal. And that was like before. I think it was at the point where there were only like five stages maybe on warp tour and we got on a tiny stage and and it was so brutal but so fun. And then we just, you know, hounded them again the next year and they gave us two weeks the next year and then we asked for another you know round of it, and then they booked us for the whole, the whole tour. So in 2003, we were on it for the entire summer, which was so much fun I loved warp tours so much and then we did do once. We did it once more for another two weeks, I think in 2005. So it was kind of like, and then action design played it A couple times.
Speaker 1:My childhood I went to so many warp tours and when the first time I met you, I had mentioned that you were my white whale. I, no matter where I was or how many shows I went to, and you guys were always playing. I never got to see tsunami bomber action design and I can't imagine why I wasn't at that warp tour, but I just never was at a warp tour that you guys were at.
Speaker 3:That's too bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were always playing the last album that was released by tsunami bomb was the definitive act, and there was, I think it was, the single from it. There is a music video of it dawn on a funeral day. Yeah, when I first heard the song, it immediately struck me that you were writing about your frustrations with the business side of the music industry, and so I was not surprised a year later when tsunami bomb broke up. Those frustrations that you were singing about in the song were those part of what led to that breakup? I mean, were you kind of writing your own obituary at that point, if you will?
Speaker 3:I feel like dawn on a funeral day was kind of. It was somewhat about that, but it was more about just sort of the LA culture, specifically because we were spending so much time in LA and that's not where we lived. We were just constantly down there because we had managers and the label and everything happened in LA and I felt very it just it's like such a weird place because it's sunny all the time and you know, the weather is beautiful and whatnot, and all the people are. It's just it's a very weird culture. I feel like Now that I'm not spending so much time there, I can enjoy it more, but at the time I just it was really bringing me down just the way that the what I perceived to be you know, the people that I was working with it was like everyone just was trying to get a better place in life. Everyone was trying to get ahead, you know, at all costs, like, and it just is not. I don't know. It just didn't feel good.
Speaker 3:This didn't feel good, but yes, I would say that that all tied in together when we broke up it was just kind of like. It was kind of like everything was was falling apart at the same time Our bass player had quit, which I loved playing with him, like he was such a good friend and a really good person, matt, our bass player and and so we were going to have to look for a new bass player, and our tour manager had quit and Our there were issues with the label and there were issues within our management team and it just was like this is not, like there's nothing that's strong right now about tsunami bomb and about this. Like you know, the band itself was kind of in pieces and so was everything else. So, yeah, we just we decided to quit while we're ahead, kind of.
Speaker 1:Hey sense. But you weren't out of music long, right. So action design, pretty much, I feel like you took a little break and then, immediately on my space, you guys were like, check this out. I got a new project, action design, and, and I remember you were asking people on my space, you were looking for a certain synthesizer, if I recall correctly, and you're like, does anybody have one of these? And I was like, oh boy, this is gonna be a totally different sound. That I was. I was nervous, like I hope, I hope I like it.
Speaker 1:But, um, action design, I Felt, were some of the strongest songs that you know you had written and performed. I think that the sound that you created and it is a definitely a unique sound for the time was Was really great and I was always disappointed that it didn't go further than what it was, because I felt that you know that was a I you had. We had just left an error where Indy Rock was everywhere. And had you done action design, I think, two years earlier, I think you guys would have been significantly bigger it. Just when you develop that sound right now did you say to yourself I want to distance myself from, from that punk scene.
Speaker 3:I want to do something different, or Kind of, yeah, I, I definitely felt, at the end of tsunami bomb we were, we were about to be faced with writing our third record, our third full-length, and it just felt very Restricted as far as what it could be, because it's like punk is is punk, you know, at least that's what we were and it Felt like, and I mean part of this is is me, you know, perceiving that, or Historically seeing that people, you know, would get upset if a band did something out of the ordinary.
Speaker 3:I guess, like a punk band does something that's weird and people would be upset about it. And I, you know, maybe I should not have tried to Pre, you know, tried to guess what people would have thought if I wanted to do something different with tsunami bomb. But, um, yeah, I felt like branching out, so like action design, adding keyboards made it so we could have all different types of Music. You know, there's some songs where there's electronic drums, there's some songs that are like disco-y, almost. It's just a broader spectrum of what you get on a on an action design record, I think, as opposed to a musically, as opposed to a tsunami bomb record although I Must say I have nothing against punk I wanted to do more with music, but punk is definitely part of my life and it always, always will be.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, so action design it lasted five, six years and you kind of that. That went away and you went into survival guide and I feel like Action design and survival guide were natural evolutions of of themselves, right? So the keyboard stayed, some of the synth sound stayed and some of the certainly with the earlier survival guide stuff, some of the Harder drum beats when it was. Is that accurate? Am I? Am I saying that right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally it's. And it's because we you know, jason, who was the guitar player for action design, and I Started survival guide as a two-piece. So we were like let's not, let's just start something and not try to have a drummer and a bass player, because I don't know. We were at a. We were in a place where we felt like you know nothing, everything was totally Fine when we, when action design, broke up, like there's no bad blood or anything like those are some of the greatest guys that I've ever played with.
Speaker 3:But it was kind of like a Disagreeing on like where, like the trajectory of what we wanted the band to do and the goals and the amount of shows and that kind of stuff. And it's like In action design, if you have, if we had somebody who was like, oh, another show, like I can't, I that's, this is too many shows. Or our drummer got tired of touring and he actually was Like I'm, this is my last tour at one point, and so Jason and I were like, well, let's, let's not mess with this anymore, like let's just. You know, we know, we both know that we really want to do this thing and we can Do it as a two-piece and maybe it'll be good. We'll see what we can do, but the two-piece didn't last, right? I mean, it was only the first few years.
Speaker 1:And then you, immediately, you know, you transition to a solo and, yeah, you, you re-release some of the songs you did too as a two-piece. Right, it wasn't in live and alone, where you just recorded them by yourself again. Uh-huh, yeah, that I mean mainly.
Speaker 3:I just felt like at that point I, I wasn't sure what I was doing and I just Definitely was not confident enough to start writing songs by myself. I didn't know if I wanted to do that, I didn't know what I was doing. But I was like, well, if I want to do music, I should do something. So why don't I do an acoustic, some acoustic re-imaginings of these electronic, you know, dancey synth songs? So that was why I did that live and alone. But yeah it um. So I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like, yeah it um. Survival Guide became a one-piece For the same I like the same similar reasons as action design stopping. It was like Jason didn't want to do as much as I wanted to do With music anymore. So I was like, well, I'm not gonna replace him, I'm just gonna see what I can do by myself and just try to do this solo. Then I won't have to depend on anybody anymore.
Speaker 1:I'm fairly certain I saw one of your first performances, solo, right where you did a whole set in New York Right. That was very early on to going to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I spent a number of years not sure what I was doing and I still, I still am trying to figure out my live show, so I'm hoping that death dreams will be sort of a new era. I'm working with a, with a live drummer, which I have done in the past as Survival Guide, but but it was never like a. It was kind of like oh, this is a fun thing, but I don't want to depend on anyone else and I think I can do both. I think I can work with a drummer or other musicians whenever they're available, and if they're not, then I can play shows by myself.
Speaker 1:So no, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Oh, I was just going to say that.
Speaker 1:I, if I remember correctly too, the the, the show that I saw in New York when you were first starting to do the live acoustic stuff. That's when you started to branch out and do ad covers to your set, like you did. You did a little mermaid cover, yes, which did I do?
Speaker 3:Okay, oh, no, you go ahead. No, no, no, finish, I know I did. I also did a Lana Del Rey that night.
Speaker 1:You did do Lana Del Rey that night.
Speaker 3:And maybe Paula Abdul.
Speaker 1:I don't believe. No, so straight up you did an amazing cover of straight up and I believe it was raining and when you listen to the recording and like on really good speakers, you can hear the rain hitting and I think it adds something to the song. But I remember I kind of I think it was the, the version of straight up that you did that kind of brought me into survival guy in the first place, because I kind of you know, you had slowed down for that period of time, for a couple years, and then all of a sudden that came out and I remember saying wow, that's some really good. It was just you and a keyboard and it was really good. And then I was surely after that I saw you were playing in New York and I was like I have to go. And I remember to the New York show you were due, you were going to end with a tsunami bomb song and they were like, oh, you're out of time. And you're like, no, I'm doing this song, yeah, I forgot, I forgot it.
Speaker 3:That was like kind of a surprise that I did. I did a tsunami bomb on piano.
Speaker 1:But then you started twitch streaming. We're on kick right now. You know I brought her over guys. Just hey, remember that I brought her to kick first, anyway.
Speaker 3:I've never been here before.
Speaker 1:So you started twitch streaming, you started doing more covers, and that led you to not one, but two albums of just cover songs. Yes, and you know I'm sorry, I grew up in New Jersey and I've just I've had to. I've wanted to say this to you for a long time. You did a cover of Bruce Springsteen's no Surrender and you readily admitted that you had never heard the song before you covered it, and that is sacrilegious to people from New Jersey, I'm just saying I know I've realized that I should quit revealing, because all of the well, almost all the covers were requests from people on my Patreon.
Speaker 3:So I, I, you know the the reward was that I would cover, I'd record whatever song people wanted me to. So there are a lot that I had never heard before, which to me is like oh, this is cool, I've never heard this. I mean, it's a challenge for me, I'm going to learn it like from scratch. Uh, but I I didn't really think about how, how, that some people would be like what you've never heard, this Bruce Springsteen song, how dare you.
Speaker 1:And I want to say I think it's the best track on that first album you. It is a great reimagining of the song it's. It has become my favorite version of that song and I'm not the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan, but that's a really good song. But your version of it is it was really good and I think you were able to do that nice reimagining because you weren't overly familiar with the song, so you weren't trying to hear the original song and what you were doing, you were just trying to make it your own. That's. I think that's why it ended up so good. Well, thank you.
Speaker 3:I remember recording that one, uh, feeling like I was really feeling those lyrics actually, because I was like that was when I had first started my Patreon I had first decided like, okay, yes, I'm going to do that, I'm going to do what I can to continue Survival Guide on my own, even though I'm scared. Uh, and the lyrics to that one are just like it's literally talking about how his you know he he's got friends in a in bands and they Hang out and play music and then people drop off and, and you know, people disappear after a while. And I was just like I'm really feeling this in my closet singing this song.
Speaker 1:And then when you, when you did the second album, um, the first album was a lot of just you and your, your keyboard, but in the second album you got much heavier with production Right. And then you got a version of um, a happy ending right, which I mean is really great and very well produced, yeah, Everlovine. So what made you decide to add all the additional production for the second album?
Speaker 3:Uh, mainly I was just gaining more knowledge about recording myself and I was branching out with different instruments and sounds and getting a little bit better at recording myself. Like the whole project was, um was so beneficial for me. Um, I think it was a really fun project. I mean, I'm still I'm kind of still doing it because I do there are some songs that I still owe to some patrons, um, so, but it was just really Like I'm so thankful for that whole project because I not only did I get to create music specifically for the people that were helping me stay in music, but I also had to learn I I use it as a learning opportunity, um, and I also had to really overcome vulnerability too, because at first I was like, oh, these are just garbage songs that I recorded and I didn't even know if I wanted to share them with all the patrons or just the one person who requested it, um, but then, as I continued to work on them, I was kind of like you know what I should?
Speaker 3:Just, I should just release these. Like they're not perfect, they're so far from perfect, um, but they were really fun to make and, um, I don't know I should. I just need to let go of. You know the the worry about being a musician.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:It's been. It's been a really big part of my uh of my journey was doing all those covers.
Speaker 1:Obviously, you know we were talking about the evolution, you know, of survival guide and hearing it through those albums, but you brought up your Patreon so many times, so I just want to point out that you have one of the more interesting patrons I've I've seen. You are very interactive with everybody on your Patreon. You're very interactive with everybody when you stream and on your discord. You you were always doing the lyric sheets and sending them out to people and so many personalized things that you give to people that support you that you don't commonly see that with artists and so I always thought that was cool that you did that. Thank, you.
Speaker 3:I just I really value the people who, um, who are here to listen to me. You know, make music, so I want to give something back, more than just the music.
Speaker 1:So where do the chocolate chip cookies come into play? They are a staple of her stream. If you guys have never seen her stream, or chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 3:So what does that come from? Um, I just, I just, you know, when setting up my Twitch channel, it was like I was so overwhelmed because there are so many bells and whistles. It's like you have to have little badge. You can, you can customize your, your badge icons, you know, for different uh sub levels, and you can customize your emotes. You can customize pop ups and like there's so much that I just felt like I wanted to have a cookie emote. I just was like I want to put some treats as emotes and um, and that it just has been a really fun feature of my. I mean, I love baking, I love cookies, so that was just I couldn't, I, I felt like I needed to include that in my channel.
Speaker 1:Uh, Paco Jacor in our chat, is uh filling the chat with cookies right now?
Speaker 3:Oh, yay Paco.
Speaker 2:I can't see the chat.
Speaker 1:No sorry. It's okay Um and it's not just cookies, by the way. You guys have expanded to all sorts of baked goods. Get sent to people as they pop in your Twitch.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, we have a treat command on Twitch.
Speaker 1:We have a, we have a dance command on our, on our stream. Oh yeah, um. So, as you pointed out, back to survival guide. You know, you, you, you grew musically and you know, you kind of honed your survival guide style as you were going through the two cover albums and now that kind of brings us to to where we are today over the. You've released quite a few new singles recently, yeah, and they are all hugely different than the original survival guide and still all really good, and I can hear influences of some of the artists that you covered. I hear influences of action, design in it. I hear influences of of everything. How did you get to this, to this sound that you're at now? What made you decide? This is it. This is what. I'm feeling positive, I'm feeling confident. These are, this is the sound I want, going forward.
Speaker 3:Well, I first off, I love that you're hearing all those influences in there, because it really like it's true. It's true, there's some songs where I was thinking what would, what would Maddie Dirtbike do on bass in this song? Um I, how did I gain the confidence to write these songs? Was that the question?
Speaker 1:Sure, if that's the question you want to answer.
Speaker 3:Or was it how?
Speaker 1:did. Usually, I'm way more to the point with my questions, but oh, no, it wasn't you.
Speaker 3:I just got stuck on how you heard the influence of action design.
Speaker 1:It's definitely me a misinterpreter, I hope. I hope at the very least people can see or, if you're listening to the audio version, only can hear the joy in my voice as I've been interviewing you as. So I'm much more nervous than I normally am, but it is coming from a place of pure joy and elation. To have the opportunity to do this, it's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Well, you seem, you seem completely put together. To me it's all good, um, so the, the sound, so, so the confidence, let's, let's make it a two part. The confidence was really that covers, all those covers that I did, like that really, really led me to feel like I could make some decent demos, like that I, that I could do some stuff with instrumentation, because that's been my, my block the whole time is like, wow, I, now I have to write all the music. Before it was like I would write some of the music and I would write the lyrics and melodies and vocals, but now it's like I need to start a song out of thin air, Like I need to start with a blank, with silence, and create a song and my goal is to create an entire album. So doing those covers really laid the groundwork for that.
Speaker 3:Um, and I did take a couple of classes.
Speaker 3:I took like some online Um, I signed up for masterclass and I did like the Timbaland uh class and Alicia Keys, and like I, I, you know, I, I gathered some confidence that way. Some little bits of you know, be true to yourself, you know stuff like that and um, and the sound of it. I did not have any specific direction that I set out to go in. I would sit down and write a section of a keyboard and then I would think of what should I add to this? And it just ended up the way it ended up. The only thing I can say that I did want to do was I wanted to get back to some more strong vocals not necessarily punk rock vocals, but I love singing loudly, and when I hear the first Survival Guide album, I did have to listen through that record recently because I had to order some more CDs and I was like, wow, I sang all of these so softly. I was working on my soft voice, so in this record I combined that with some more strong vocals as well.
Speaker 1:Do you feel that streaming and you don't just hop on stream and do a request show you also do your live learn streams where you're like, hey, I'm going to learn this new song today and I have no idea how to play it, but I'm going to figure it out in front of everyone, in front of an audience. I'm going to learn how to play a song in front of people. Do you feel that has helped your confidence in music?
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. I mean doing the Twitch streaming is another piece of this puzzle that I'm so grateful for. That I started doing because I was so unsure and scared about doing it and performing. I think I also. I'm still working on it. I definitely don't consider myself an instrumentalist as much as I should, I think, and it's hard for me not to talk about that on stream, just like oh, I'm terrible at this, you know. Like just sort of talking myself down, I want to get better at that while getting better at performing and playing instruments while singing. So, yeah, it's really really helped me with the whole like vulnerability thing and just being like hey, whatever, you know, like I mess up a song so bad that I have to stop and start over. It's not, no one died, you know. Like it's, it's fine, it's totally fine.
Speaker 1:And I just want to point out to people, you play more than just the piano. On your Twitch stream too, you pick up a bass and you know you pluck through that and it's kind of cool to watch and I remember the first few. I used to be in your stream way more earlier on and you were always nervous when you switched to the bass and you would always panic. I feel like you got more comfortable as time went on. What is your streaming schedule? By the way, if people want to watch, you do the. It's the same. You do the live learn and then your regular request stream pretty much the same times every week. If you want to share that, with everybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I do the live learns slash practice. Sometimes it's just a practice stream, but I'll do that on Tuesdays from two to four central, so in New York, so three to five for you. And then Fridays I do the request stream from four to seven central, so five to eight.
Speaker 1:On on Twitch, not on kick.
Speaker 3:You got to go over to the other brand. Yes.
Speaker 1:I don't, by the way, I don't, I don't have any.
Speaker 1:Affiliated horses in this race of which platform is better. I just picked kick eventually because I got banned too many times on Twitch for no reasons at all. Oh no, yeah, well, I used to have. Not that I want to talk about this on my podcast, but I used to play chess. I used to play chess on Twitch and I would have, occasionally I would have streams where I would bring on an adult entertainer, if you will, who remained fully clothed at all times, and it was more a social experiment, because people who play chess care very much about their ratings, and so I would play viewers. And here was the thing If I, if I won the game, the adult entertainer would come out and dance on a pole.
Speaker 1:If, I lost the game, no dancer. So you had to decide how important your rating was. Do you want chat to hate you or love the fact that you lost the game? And out came great. But it was very, it was very clean, it was all in good fun. I mean, there was nothing that was inappropriate or anything like that, and Twitch just would come with the ban hammer and I finally I just gave up and I was like this is, and there was a whole category on Twitch at some point of pole dancing. Oh, really, yeah, because it's. It is an art form and an exercise and I understand that you need to keep it clean on the platform and I would never put anything out there that I felt was obscene or inappropriate or anything.
Speaker 1:that wasn't what we were trying to do. So I never understood why, why I would get the bands and eventually I just kind of gave up. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:So that's really annoying.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I came over to kick here, so here I am, but you are going to. You want to play something for us now, right off the off the new album coming up. Yeah, I was going to play you a song, this is exciting.
Speaker 3:Play you a blood perfume, blood perfume.
Speaker 1:Was that the first single that you released, coming yes, with?
Speaker 3:the serial killer music. Serial killer music video.
Speaker 1:Which I think I used a clip of in your intro video.
Speaker 3:Yes, you did. I saw it in there. Should I play it?
Speaker 1:Absolutely we would. I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 3:Okay, let me do this. Let me do this original sound for musicians thing, this weird thing, just in case.
Speaker 1:By the way, guys, it's because her and I are communicating on zoom right now and zoom. We've learned that zoom has all this compression protocols in there. So when she's going to play music, if she doesn't change the setting, zoom might start to gate or compress her in weird ways and you probably wouldn't hear her have the song.
Speaker 3:All right, here we go. Blood perfume. You can't see my keyboard, but it's right here.
Speaker 2:All you gotta do is believe me. I love the way that you trust me. I love the way you're putting on above me. It's your turn to prove that you love me. My words become your scriptures, got the best evidential pictures. I know you better than you do. You know how much I'll protect you. Oh, to the brightest teeth in the room.
Speaker 2:You can't say no when I slip a little bit in your blood, into my perfume, into my perfume you still learn all that. Into my perfume. I'll fit in your mind. You wake first thing, want to see me? I make it so, so easy. Just kneel and kiss my feet, please. That's all you gotta do to appease me. So go and play the part now. I'll allow you to feel smart. Now you think it's your decision. As you execute my vision, you can't say no To the brightest teeth in the room. You can't say no when I slip a little bit in your blood into my perfume, into my perfume, just a little bit Into my perfume. I'll fit in your blood. I will keep you safe. If you take my hand, do not look away. Give me all you have. You can't say no To the brightest teeth in the room. You can't say no when I slip a little bit in your blood into my perfume. You can't say no. You can't say no when I slip a little bit in your blood into my perfume.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, thank you, so good, so good Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:I'm going to clip that at some point and that's going on kick. So now, your performance will forever be enshrined, not on Twitch, awesome. So one of the things that's different about this podcast and a lot of other streams is, you know, we give the viewers in chat, the live viewers on kick, the ability to ask questions, and we do this a little differently than oh, I have my botricks window open, hold on one second, that's my bed. We do this a little differently than a lot of other podcasts where we're a bit nerdy over here, and so, as I've explained to you, we play this game with a d20. And we do a traditional Dungeons and Dragons style knowledge check.
Speaker 1:If anybody has any questions for for agent M, for Emily, for survival, the solo survival guide is left. We will ask her the question and we will roll the dice. If she gets an 11, if we get 11 or higher, she can answer the question truthfully 10 and lower, and she has to make up an answer because she doesn't. She doesn't know the answer in her own question and I was. I was asked a question in advance and I am. I'm going to pose that question to you now, but we're going to roll the the. I'll ask the question first and then we'll roll the dice. Obviously, if you guys don't know, tsunami bomb has made a resurgence recently. In recent years, without Emily as the singer, and they have re released a lot of the original tracks, including stuff back from the original vinyl all the way up through. Have they done definitive act tracks? I'm not even sure. I honestly I don't really I don't think so.
Speaker 3:I don't think they did definitive act. I don't think so. This reminds me. I wanted to say something about Mushy love song, though, if we have time at the end.
Speaker 1:Go to Whoa say what you want to say about the song first, yeah, sure.
Speaker 3:Well, I, I learned that it came out. They re released, they, they released an unreleased demo, like tsunami bomb demo version of Mushy love song and I feel like since we're you know you're talking about it and how it's the first song you heard, if people go and find it on Spotify and listen to it, it's so bad. It's so bad. I listened to it because I was playing the song on Twitch and I was wondering about a part of it, like I can't remember what we do. You know what the arrangement was here. So I found it on there and I was like this is awful. I can't believe they released it. It sounds so bad, that's all. It's not the plinky version.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I would like to point out that the version that I used to listen to, which was the plinky version, was it? Do you remember back when you used to record a vinyl to a cassette and you would have the needle sounds on the cassette? Yeah, that's the version that I've heard through the years and I think I would rather the demo version than that.
Speaker 3:Yes, but oh, you'd rather the demo version. Oh maybe, maybe you should listen to it and report back to me, because I was like, wow, this is so bad.
Speaker 1:So the question.
Speaker 3:Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, no, you're fine. The question that was asked was how do you feel, knowing like, hearing songs that you originally recorded and made famous with your vocals being recorded by somebody else who isn't you? With some of the members of the original band, we're going to roll the D 20. And I already know, listen the high number. Oh, no, it's a three. I don't want to make her lie about this answer, so go ahead, you can answer it, okay, yeah. Because somebody asked this as a serious question. Yeah, we'll break the rules for this one.
Speaker 3:Oh, we will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, go ahead and answer it for real.
Speaker 3:Are you sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I don't want to put you in a bad, in an awkward, position. Well, I saw that they had re-recorded some songs that I sang on and I did not listen to those because I feel like that would be really weird. And I, yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a weird experience, the whole thing. Only because being in tsunami bomb was a huge Part of my life and those are songs that I wrote. So I have seen some footage of them being performed by the new singer and I have nothing at all against the new singer of tsunami bomb, but it is definitely weird for me. It's like it makes all all these weird Feelings that I've never had come up in me. So I don't really seek out their material, their new, their new stuff. So that's my I, just my non. That's my 11 and higher answer. I.
Speaker 1:Just want to add it's very strange. Tsunami bomb is not the only female fronted punk band that changed singers and then re-recorded stuff. Uh, go betty go did it for a while when nicolette left and then she came back, and you don't really see that with a lot of male fronted punk bands, where they're just like we're gonna replace the singer and no one's gonna pay any attention. Everyone's just gonna keep showing up, and I think that's. I Wonder if anybody's ever looked into how many Bands, how many male singers have been replaced over female singers been replaced. It's just something that always struck me as odd. You know, not just with tsunami bomb and, as I said, go betty go and I think there were two others that I used to know too, but they're just escaping me at the moment- I know there's a couple of, uh, a couple of, like Metal, more metal ish bands that were female fronted, that had various vocalists, I think, but I can't remember the names of them either.
Speaker 3:Maybe, maybe nightwish, maybe, I don't remember.
Speaker 1:I mean aside from van halen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't see it, there's van halen.
Speaker 1:With male singers. Anyway, uh, there's some. Ponex pond wants to know. He asked what is it like on stage? It has to be insane having all those people out there helping you sing and we're gonna roll the dice to have a knowledge check to know if you actually know what, what it feels like to perform on stage. It's a three again, guys.
Speaker 3:She does not know, wait, so am I, am I just, is my answer.
Speaker 1:I don't know, or is it? No, you know you have to make it up. It's. However, you know. Okay, it just has to be on playing a game. It just has to be on, true.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, uh well, it's Really boring actually uh, I kind of hate when people sing along to my songs while I'm trying to sing them. I'm like hello. Uh, how am I supposed to sing if you're singing like I'm? I'm on stage, so you Stay quiet, because the last thing I want is for people to be singing along to my music.
Speaker 1:So can someone clip that and put that on tiktok and youtube?
Speaker 1:She's usually the most she's usually the most wholesome person in streaming. She's always so positive, so to Um. So just to move this along, because I don't want to keep you that long, we also play a little, a little trivia and on this stream and um and um, I I was trying to think of what trivia to do with you. So just so everybody knows, I had did not have a lot of time to prep this, uh, this guest, because the guests we were supposed to have on this is the week that the writer strike officially ended and a bunch of people went back to work. So my original guest had to reschedule and I said you know who I'm gonna ask to be my guest is is Emily whitehurst, because she has never let me down in my life. Any time I have struggled emotionally and physics, she has been there and she's gonna be there for me again.
Speaker 1:So I reached out and asked by the way, she didn't know, she didn't know most of the times that she was there for me, but she was and uh, so normally I would ask in advance, you know, if you had any fandoms, like in nerd culture, and most people have some type of fandom, but I didn't know yours, so I figured the fun one we could play first is it's a pop punk buzzfeed quiz, and, and if you get enough questions correct, uh, boom, boom dawn is going to win a great prize. So I I briefly skimmed this. It didn't seem that hard, okay we're gonna.
Speaker 3:We're gonna play the game boom.
Speaker 1:Boom dawn.
Speaker 3:I'll try. I will try for you.
Speaker 1:Uh, all right. So who sings? Welcome to the black parade. Wezer, pierce the veil. My chemical romance afi.
Speaker 3:My chemical romance, for sure it is.
Speaker 1:It's definitely my chemical romance. Oh my god, buzzfeed has too many ads. Uh, which celebrity made a cameo? And fallout boys. Thanks for the memories. Music video parasol, kim Kardashian.
Speaker 3:Uh, boom, boom dawn. Uh, there's 50, 50 chance here. I'm gonna go with parasolton.
Speaker 1:You know, I would have gone with parasol too, but I, it was kim Kardashian. Oh, it was, oh it was kim Kardashian who said nobody likes you when you're 23?.
Speaker 3:Okay, blink 182.
Speaker 1:Who sings ohio is who sings ohio is for lovers.
Speaker 3:Uh hawthorne heights.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that one. Which song is an all-time low song? Crush, crush, crush. Dear maria, count me in Halena, the great escape.
Speaker 3:Oh, uh, well, I know it's got to be one of the two on the right. I feel like this is not pop punk, this is like emo.
Speaker 1:It is definitely emo punk.
Speaker 3:Go with. I'm gonna go with the great escape.
Speaker 1:It's, it's, dear maria, count me in. Oh no, this is how emo it is who asked. Who asked the lila what it's like in new york city? The all-american rejects boy like girls, plain white teas metro station.
Speaker 3:I know this it's plain white teas because we toured with them.
Speaker 1:Did you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, yeah, tsunami bomb.
Speaker 1:Fun fact, he did. He did not get the lila in the end. Who is the front man of 30 seconds to mars? Billy joe armstrong. Jarred lettow. Jarred way brendan urie jarred lettow. That is jarred lettow, not a jarred lettow fan.
Speaker 3:I I'm not either, really.
Speaker 1:Which blink 182 song goes we can live like jack and sally if we want adam song down. I miss you always.
Speaker 3:Hmm, we can live like jack and sally if we want. Are, are. Are those all blink 182 song titles? That's my question for you. Do you know this one?
Speaker 1:I do know this one, you do, and I don't know if.
Speaker 3:Well, I think they are all blink 182 songs. Okay, I'm gonna go with. I miss you.
Speaker 1:I miss you. Where are you? And? I'm so sorry, it is absolutely. Who sings a song called until the day I die. Story of the year. Newfound glory cartel, brand new.
Speaker 3:This is 100% guess. Uh, until the day I die, uh, I'm gonna go with um Newfound glory. Well, what was it? Story of the year?
Speaker 1:story of the year whose album is this?
Speaker 3:Oh, uh, I do recognize that, is it wait, I don't get boys like girls.
Speaker 1:the academy is yellow card all time low.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I just wanted you to get a good shot of the picture. Oh, that's okay, that is. Is that the academy is? It is you got seven out of ten correct.
Speaker 2:Seven out of ten.
Speaker 3:Oh wait, is that?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's funny for me. I'm gonna be done, okay good, that's funny.
Speaker 1:I'm ever shifted chesscom. We are the bad chess podcast after all. But Listen, I want I, you are. I want to usually, believe it or not, you did the best on any trivia that we've had so far.
Speaker 3:That was hard too. I feel like it was harder than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1:I prepped a second. Might the second chance trivia, which um Is, is you, you enjoyed cooking and baking, baking more than cooking, correct? But I couldn't find a baking trivia, so we went. We went cooking, which I thought. Some of these questions were great. La Cordon. Bleu translates to what in English.
Speaker 3:The blue ribbon.
Speaker 1:The blue ribbon. Soaking food in a liquid, usually acidic, prior to cooking is known as what?
Speaker 3:Soaking food in a liquid Pickling no prior to cooking.
Speaker 1:Oh, marination, marination what device became life as George George's barbecue kettle?
Speaker 3:Uh, the George foreman grill no.
Speaker 1:I I can say I believe, if I remember recall correctly, they first asked hulk hogan to be the supposed person of the george foreman grill. It was almost the hulk hogan grill and he passed on it. That was a mistake, hulk, that was a mistake.
Speaker 3:It was, it was.
Speaker 1:So what's the?
Speaker 3:george's barbecue kettle.
Speaker 1:That's the Weber grill the Weber grill.
Speaker 3:Oh Dang, I'm terrible at this cooking trivia.
Speaker 1:Someone is a pescacherian. What type of animal can they eat? Fish? It is fish, okay. What dishes served with rice, sauces and seafood such as squid, eel, tuna and salmon?
Speaker 3:A lot of dishes Are served like that. Uh, I mean Squid, eel, tuna and salmon um sushi.
Speaker 1:Of course I want you to know, you, you were gonna lose your california card if you didn't get sushi.
Speaker 3:Well, I was just like, I mean there's, there's like don burry, there's like all these different japanese foods. Then I was like just scale it back here.
Speaker 1:Train pigs are useful in rooting out what valuable food truffles it is truffles. In 1893 the us supreme court ruled that one food was a vegetable potatoes. Tomatoes tomatoes. Though botanically speaking, it's a fruit, specifically it's a berry, that's give you the fun answer. What french canadian dish consists of french fries cheese, curds and brown gravy? Poutine is poutine. What variety of candy contains cocoa butter, sugar and milk, but no cocoa solids?
Speaker 3:Uh, white chocolate.
Speaker 1:It is white chocolate. Okay. What is the proper name for bowtie pasta?
Speaker 3:Oh, how did you.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that one.
Speaker 1:I think that was the only one I didn't know. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:It means butterfly in italian does it really? Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Those are our games. They weren't that bad right.
Speaker 3:No, they weren't wait. How many did I get, though?
Speaker 1:Yeah well, the second chance. One didn't matter as much because boom, boom, don already won the prize.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, okay, I see.
Speaker 1:Feel like you got like seven of those correct too right.
Speaker 3:It was not too bad.
Speaker 1:You missed uh tomatoes. You missed the Weber grill and marination. I feel like everything else she you got Me. You got, you got, you got, you got, you got blue ribbon for for cordon blue, the soaking the food in the acidic, liquidless marination. You didn't. You didn't get that one. The Weber grill which was, you thought, george foreman grill, pescatarian was fish, sushi, pigs smell truffles, and then supreme court was tomatoes, and then poutine and white chocolate and far farful, far farly far, farly. Are you italian?
Speaker 3:I am italian, well, listen.
Speaker 1:This has been great really. I'm usually way, way more poignant with my questions, but tonight was, uh, was fantastic. It's just. You know, I really appreciate you coming on. I I know you're very busy. You're trying to prep something, um, and you can get something edited to get it out. So you, you took time out of your very busy night to To be here and I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3:Well, it's great. Thanks for inviting me. I'm really glad that it worked out and that, um, that I was able to Uh fill the slot. So, um, I wanted to say also that, if I ever come on this again, if I don't know, if you have, if you're gonna have repeat guess, but if you ever have me on again, we should do my. I think probably my most nerdy uh fandom is Lord of the Rings, so I can say how much lord of the how nerdy lord of the rings, can you get?
Speaker 1:Well, I have not read the books.
Speaker 3:So that's that cuts me to you know, down to a certain level, but I have watched the movies, uh like a million times.
Speaker 1:So what's your, what's your favorite? Lord of the rings movie.
Speaker 3:That's tough, that's really tough. I I kind of like the fellowship the most. I don't know there's such good parts in all of them, um, so I don't know that's.
Speaker 1:do not mess with me, so I don't know that's do not meddle in the affairs of who, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
Speaker 3:Oh no, you just pulled up a quiz right now. Do not meddle in the affairs of? Oh no, for they are subtle and quick to anger. Do not meddle in the affairs of Dwarves wizards wizards.
Speaker 1:What do the elves call Gandalf?
Speaker 3:Um mithrandi.
Speaker 1:That's andre close enough. What is?
Speaker 2:pippin's full name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't notice uh, pippin.
Speaker 3:Um, I know his last name is took, full of a took. Uh, pippin, pippin, pippin took. He's probably got a middle name peregrine took peregrine took. Oh, I knew that.
Speaker 1:Uh, what is the name of sam's pony? I think that's a book thing when, geographically speaking, was Frodo stabbed geographically.
Speaker 3:I mean he was stabbed in his no, no, where.
Speaker 1:Where in the world?
Speaker 3:On weathertop on weathertop.
Speaker 1:Who composed the music for the lord of the rings films? Oh no, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I should, I should know that, but I definitely don't know that.
Speaker 1:Howard shore.
Speaker 3:Howard shore.
Speaker 1:Who is gimley's father?
Speaker 3:gimley, son of gloom.
Speaker 1:Look at the almost smitten with aragorn, who does erwin marry in the end.
Speaker 3:Faramir. It is faramir who is next in line, after theodin, for the throne of rohan uh well, it would have been Theodrid, his son, but his son died During the movie, so that's kind of a trick question. Uh, aomer, that's his nephew.
Speaker 1:Who took the ring from sauron?
Speaker 3:uh, uh. Why is now I'm blanking on this? I can picture him. Uh, the names who took the ring, the shards of Narsil was his sword, eregorn, son of Erethorn, uh.
Speaker 1:The wheels are spinning.
Speaker 3:I'm so sad that I'm not. It's not coming to mind because I know, I know it. I was there when.
Speaker 1:You were present when he when the ring was cut.
Speaker 3:It was. It's a line from the movie. I was there when he took the ring. I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Isildur, isildur.
Speaker 3:Isildur's heir.
Speaker 1:That's right. So, by the way, the questions only get harder. That's a dorky, geeky nerdy provided that quiz for us, but that's a. I had to do it. When you said I can do Lord of the Rings trivia, we had to we had to try it.
Speaker 3:Well, I feel like I did okay on that. You did great on that you did.
Speaker 1:You answered questions that I didn't think you were going to get, so you are officially a Lord of the Rings nerd. So so listen really. I repeat, guess you can come on anytime you want. You know, my goal is eventually what I want to do, which is different than what everybody else is doing in the streaming and podcast world is I want to. My goal longterm for this show is to build it out like a set and do it variety show style, where you know we actually have a host that will host the trivia segment. We have a house band that could be you, but you get what I'm saying, like I want to. I mean my, my roots are in television. I produce, I've actually been a part of a huge prime time variety shows hosted by Neil Patrick Harris Best time ever. It really wasn't the best time ever but that was the name of the show.
Speaker 1:I think that that is something that nobody is doing in this online space and something I would like to bring to it. So you are always welcome on and I'm sure we could find if you want to keep coming on in the future. I'm sure I could find a thousand things to talk to you about.
Speaker 3:Awesome, I'm into it.
Speaker 1:Survival Guide Music Spotify, itunes. Survival Guide Music on Instagram right, so it's on screen right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if you search I mean on on Spotify and Apple Music, it's just Survival Guide, so it's there's only one artist called Survival Guide and that's me.
Speaker 1:And if you guys want to hear, I mean I know on YouTube music the cover albums are there. I'm imagining they're there on Spotify and iTunes too, so you can really, if you start with the first cover album and move through the second one and then the newer singles that have come out, you really will hear that progression that we were talking about. Also, the older bands, you can find them everywhere Action Design, tsunami Bomb you'll find them everywhere. Just look for the older Tsunami Bomb stuff, not the newer ones.
Speaker 3:Yes, 2004 and earlier.
Speaker 1:Right, the band broke up in 2005,. Right, yeah, but you guys didn't record anything in that window. That's definitive act. Yeah, Look, next week's guest I'm going to tell you too. I'm breaking the news right here Leslie Carrera Rudolph. She is Abby Kedaby on Sesame Street. She was in Johnny and the Sprites a bunch of shows. She is really fun. So she's going to be on next week. It's going to be the same time, 8 pm Eastern time on Thursday, right here on stream. If you miss it live, you can watch the VOD here. You can check it out on YouTube. You can download it wherever you get your podcasts. This show will be available immediately on kick and later tonight on YouTube, as well as everywhere Spotify, iTunes, everywhere you get your music. Really, thanks so much for coming on. You were the first person to perform live on the show Music, so it was fantastic. What do you know? When the album's coming out? Do you have a date?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's October 19th.
Speaker 1:Oh, so it's like a week and a half.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:And switch.
Speaker 1:It's real soon. What?
Speaker 3:are you on switch? Survival Guide Music Survival.
Speaker 1:Guide Music Guys. Really, if you're on switch, give her a follow. Check out her Her request. Streams are amazing. They are so much fun.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:And what I like that you do, by the way, as we're just connecting, is I like the fact that you save the hits for later, like you know the songs that people are going to request all the time, and you block that part of your list out so it can't be requested until you have a bigger audience later. I think that's very smart.
Speaker 3:I mean that's partially because those are just all the loudest songs and I'm not ready. In the beginning of the stream I'm like I cannot. I cannot just like blast my head off as the first few songs. But that is a good. That is also a good way to look at it. What are your, they're reserved.
Speaker 1:What is your favorite song of your request list? Just?
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:I don't know Like my favorite one to perform.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on your request list.
Speaker 3:That's a really hard question. I'd probably have to look at the list. It would probably be someone else's song. I bet doing a cover because I've done all my own songs a bunch and I'm like this is fun, but it's not. It's not, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll have to think about that and answer that next time I'm on.
Speaker 1:Well, really, this is the longest episode too, so thank you so much for coming on. Everybody, followers social media, check out our music October 19th. I can't wait to listen to the whole album. The first three single, three singles, are out. It's pie, it's Blood, perfume and lady. Yeah thank you.
Speaker 3:I drew a blank there, which, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1:I was saying lady and I couldn't come up with the second word. So thank you again. So much for coming on. Thanks everybody for watching. Have a great night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thanks for having me.