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Who On Earth?
Who On Earth?
Threading Sound & Spirit: Arachai on Music as Medicine, Ritual Craft & Following the Spiritual Path
Some people make music. Some people make art. Arachai Haorang makes portals.
He loops sounds, ties knots, builds talismans, and somehow turns it all into a kind of magic that doesn’t take itself too seriously — even if it is a bit otherworldly.
I first saw him perform at Ignite Festival and immediately thought: who on earth is that — and how do I get more of them? Fast forward to this conversation, and we’re diving into how he ended up making sound journeys, running all-night healing events, and travelling the world with a drum as a backpack, full of everything he owned.
We talk about music as medicine (without the guru voice), the intentionality behind the jewellery he makes, and how his life ended up being shaped more by intuition than spreadsheets. There’s humour, honesty, and a healthy dose of awe — but no preaching.
If you’ve crossed paths with Arachai before, you’ll know. If you haven’t, buckle up. This one’s got range.
Connect with Arachai
Website | www.arachai.co.uk
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Spotify | https://open.spotify.com/artist/6Jsys3TSO0T9RAEnYKcvdr?si=KfwXM9PMTzWd_p8IOl_lXg
YouTube: m.youtube.com/channel/UCiJQH1pbcj-QpFSH8ninimA
Connect with Michael Hill
Website | www.meditationwithmichael.co.uk
Linktree | https://linktr.ee/meditationwithmichael
Instagram | @meditationwithmichael
Facebook | MeditationwithMichael
TikTok | @MeditationwithMichael
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SPEAKER_00:Then the shaman comes up to me. He's like, you've got a free ceremony today. And I was just like, oh. And I was like, am I ready for this? Like actually. Two puffs and then he's like. All this stuff. And then all these colors are coming for me. Like, whew. Like, felt like a peacock. It was like literally like a fucking exorcism, bro. I'm not even joking. Just got to a peak, you know, one night where a knife came out and then called the police, locked the door and loads of stuff happened. Yes people, welcome back to Who on Earth Season 2 and with Episode 12 I've got a different kind of guest, such a relatable guy but with a depth to him and you can't help but like him. He's Arachai and he's a multi-looping conscious musician, yeah, one of them. Also makes his own jewellery as well and he does his own sound healing journeys. Fantastic musician. I first saw him at the Ignite Festival in the West Yorkshire Hills and I didn't get a chance to talk to him, I got lost in the music. so I reached out to him and he was very kind he let me come down and we went down to Bridlington and we had a beautiful conversation he'd actually been a little ill and he'd had to cancel a few things but lucky for us he wasn't too ill for this conversation and it's funny we've got some mad experiences but we'll leave him to tell you them now for those who are actually watching rather than listening you may see we've got some new bottles here that's a new ether spray And a new ether drop. I know I just pointed at the wrong ones through what people were watching. We've been improved. So we've improved the recipe for the ether drops. So the Dream Healer. So now I've got a little bit of agave. A little bit of sweetness just to help it go down. You know, a little bit of sweet for the medicine. And then the new and improved Aguada Florida spray as well. 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Thank you. and i was just listening to you in the car and well the van on the way here i'm looking for getting more excited for it thanks for joining us on who on earth brother so for those who don't know i met ara chai well i didn't meet you actually did i no i saw ara chai when i had my little store actually and with the dream healers that you guys can see on the video and um I was like, oh, this guy's got skills. I really wanted to meet you. I was telling you, you know, I really wanted to see you. And then I was like, you started doing didgeridooing for the northern poet and i just i lost you and but you graciously decided to come on anyway after i messaged you on instagram so thank you very much sir thank you brother thank you michael so it's very much going to be just like the guys know the gist and i sort of gave you a heads up where have you come from and you go on anecdotes you tell us on these like little stories and my job's to keep you on track yeah Obviously, we're in Bridlington right now. East Yorkshire. You weren't always there. No, I wasn't always here. Tell us, where are you originally from? Yeah, well, I was born in Beverley, which is near Hull. And then lived in Hull. Beverly Hills. Yeah, kind of. Different kind of style of Beverly Hills. The hills are there. More like the Yorkshire Hills of Beverly. The bottles. And yeah, grew up in Hull. Lived there a bit. And then we lived in Thailand until I was about eight. And then we came back to Hull. And then... um the last three years we've been in bridlington so yeah it's been a nice journey well what was it like let's rewind then what was it like when you were growing up what did the what did it look like for yourself so a lot of music then yeah well no actually we wasn't really i would say a creative family okay yeah i wouldn't expect to hear that either because your sister was singing as well yeah yeah okay so a lot of people look like surprised at that before the creativity then yeah like what did it look like yeah i mean with I've always been open because my dad and my mum met traveling. They met picking fruit. they used to call them mushavs and kibbutz in Israel basically when you was travelling I keep moving this mic I'll just keep my hands down yeah so basically they met picking fruit and so we've always been a bit open and but not in the creative way I would say just in living you know and the food we ate we always had Thai food my dad would always cook Thai food yeah my dad's from Thailand my mum's from I'm whole. So, yeah. But she's got a bit of a... My grandma is like half African. So there's a bit of African there. There's a bit of... Loads of... Yeah. It's like that shit mix you make. Chuck it all in, bro, and see what happens. You're making me a tea and he's like, I've got lavender, I've got... Plantain. Plantain, yeah. It's nice. It's very nice. So you're a bit of a shit mix from a load of people. Yeah. Is that a nice way to describe someone? It's a mob. yeah exactly i do i do describe it like that sometimes so yeah traveling when they had you um i'd be faced up in hull by this point yes they were kind of met in israel and then my mom went to thailand kind of as a like she didn't really know she said to me she was like oh i'll just go and see what's like but she didn't know it didn't have electric in the village she didn't know she was going to be the white the first white person first white woman in the village she didn't know that to go get your water you had to walk like a few kilometers to the well you know she didn't have this idea in her head do you know good old England no then she went there and she's like oh shit this is different like what did she think though she was quite overwhelming at first because all the village came out and was like touching her and because it was that like fresh you know to them yeah and they were like oh like the hair and yeah but after a while she kind of settled in started to speak the language and the people started to she was there for a little while yeah a few years yeah yeah Yeah. And then my sister was actually born out there. So is she older than you? No, she's younger. So basically... We went to England, but my dad couldn't actually get into England, even though my parents were married, because of visa bullshit. So he had to stay in Belgium, where my Thai auntie was at the time. She helped my mum and dad get that visa. So my mum had to have me here alone because of visas. Yeah, which is bullshit, isn't it? You know what I mean? And that probably happens a lot, to be honest, that we don't even know about. So even if you're in love and you want to have a child, you know, sometimes these... yeah country and it says no bullshit bureaucracy in it and people thinking that you know this is theirs and this is that and whatever anyway but yeah so that was kind of the the childhood and always felt a bit on the outside also i was gonna say yeah yeah you got any examples for us yeah i mean a lot of bully you know bullying uh yeah fighting with people just because of my skin you know like and we grew up on a council estate at one point called orchard park in hull and that's like one of the biggest ones in apparently europe and they just named the street one two three four we were on 28th of you know and there wasn't even any no this is it so because they couldn't you know there were just that many or whatever yeah it's actually not worth it yeah there you go and i remember literally people scratching my dad's car flattening tires because because he was from Thailand. One time though, like someone put like a message on my dad's car saying, on my mum's car saying like, nigger lover. And we were just like, I was just like, I'm like, my dad's from Thailand. He's not even like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But at least get it right. Yeah, yeah. It would really hurt us if you got it right. But actually, I mean, obviously. It's like calling me a black woman. I'm like, give me a few days. But from a young age, I could see how like kids were influenced by stuff that, they were saying stuff they didn't even know, you know? So yeah, all the parents have said something and they're just repeating it. So I kind of, Things didn't touch me so much. I could kind of get through it. And I was just like, oh, these are just fucking mad people off the estate. Because when I go to Thailand also, they would say Phalang, which is a foreigner. So even in Thailand, I was a foreigner. Did you not feel home anywhere then? Not really. When I was younger, no. How did that make you feel? It made me travel a lot when I had the chance and just go, you know, and then I went for years and then that's kind of brought me back to this whole journey and brought me back here to feel the connection. What about when you were a kid and you couldn't travel? Yeah, I mean, I feel the connection came through like speaking to God in a way. I grew up in a... My family in Thailand are Buddhists and my uncle's a monk and they're really... traditional Buddhists, you know, and really go to the temple every day, the prayer, they give the offerings. So there was that influence. But then I went to a Catholic school in Hull called St. Mary's. You've been proper shook up, haven't you? And before every class you did, before you sat down, you had to say the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Before you actually sat down, every class. And then you had the Sunday service, you had the Friday service, and then you ate the bread and the blood of Christ. So you went in. Yeah, and I found connection through it, to be honest with you. And I did speak to Jesus, or who I thought was Jesus or whatever, and God and... It got me through times. I'd often think like, what the fuck is this life? Just guide me, help me. Well, who am I? Why am I here? I'm a foreigner here, I'm a foreigner there. That answers your question of how did it affect you. It makes you feel that, yeah, you're a foreigner, you're an outsider, but in a way that gives you a certain power because it brings everything back to yourself and that actually you're only here for yourself anyway and that we're all foreigners or we're all, to one person or to another thing we're all mongrels aren't we depending on perception innit so it's like we're all a mixture of many different things and it's a lot more within us I imagine that connects us than separates us exactly don't worry about the colour of my car yeah exactly have you looked at the engine yeah exactly innit that shit does not matter I know it's aesthetics innit but for you obviously that's the only way people were taking you surface level so you wanted something deeper yeah exactly yeah exactly when you're a kid Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I was quite, You know, I had a lot of different friends and a wide variety, to be honest. I would be friends with- You weren't ostracized, you weren't- Not really. I mean, there'd be the odd time people would be like, oh, fucking Pachini. You know, using, but back then it was kind of, except Tidmore, I would say. I'm 30, so- Because I'm 34, so- You're 34. You know, it was kind of, it was one year, you know, and for me- The internet- I can laugh about that, to be honest, and I can joke, but some people can't, and I get that as well, because it's, but for me, it's like, you're just a spirit in a body, man, like- Fucking, like you say, your skin colour. Yeah, it's important in one sense and your lineage and your ancestors. You've got to honour it, but also, you know. We're here for a little time. What you're saying is like... like if you a load of little kids you put them in a room and none of them are paying attention to colour yeah exactly eyes or hair or anything they're just having fun together yeah they don't see that do they they're just beyond that I mean I get it the ego wants to understand somebody's different to me I might understand them less therefore fret but we've got the ability as human beings to step back reframe the moment and then you realise my mind's funny my mind's this my mind's that and he's not just the colour of his skin but you had friends that was sort of senior for who you were so it must have felt nice to feel accepted by them yes it was yeah and I had a lot of good Yeah, all different friends, to be honest. I was going to say, were they like a ragamuffin? Yeah. A shit mix of friends. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like Indian friends, Chinese, you know, the Polish. Because I could relate to them in one way, but I can also relate to the English people. And I've got loads of English mates, you know, proper just English lads, you know. You are English. Oh, yeah, that's it as well. So it's also... You get a label. Yeah. So I could relate to it all and... Yeah, it was also nice growing up. You know, I'm not going to paint it in this mad picture, but there were them dark times, but there was also really beautiful times. There's always beauty in terror. Like, you're very elegantly spoken, but you also keep hitting the microphone. Yeah. I'm like, what's going on, man? You're expressive. He's a creative. He's making up for the lack of creation. It's all the rapping I've been doing, man. So, obviously, you've got this little group of friends that you're going into.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So you've kind of got the beauty of that and then the terror of the other side. You've got the thing balancing it out. So was childhood generally happy for yourself? Yeah, I would say it was. Did you have any interests? Anything you were into? I was very sporty, you know, more than the creative side. I was in the rugby team, played a few football matches, volleyball team. I was in all that. Athletics. Yeah, we got to the national finals as a school team. Yeah, I know. A fist bump from there for the listeners. Yeah. So, yeah, I was very sporty and then it's kind of flipped a bit now. I'm like, I need to get back, you know, I'd go to the gym, but not as much, you know, and I'm like, right, I need to get back on that balance now. I've gone too far the other way. I used to be small and then I would literally go to school, wag English and maths, go and do something else, like not even go to school, come back for PE. And then we're excited. I just came to the footy. But now, and I got, like the last few years, I got quite physically fit. But then I was getting this illness that kept reoccurring, like chronic fatigue. Do you know what you're talking about, the Vipassana? When I sat with the fatigue, it was like this hot smoke was inside myself. And when I paid attention, it dissipated. And I've had it since. So I can work out again now. But the point being is I've gone quite skinny. And I don't know about you, but like when I sort of started accepting who I was the energy behind wanting to get fit well it used to be to look good you know what I mean and when I got rid of that need to look good and accepted myself I didn't have the fuel anymore so it's now about actually I care about my body I care about taking care of my vessel this vessel is how I interact with this reality as Michael so I don't know about you what was it about the sports that called to you I think it was more you know connection Well, yeah, I felt good. You know, it just felt good. And I was good at it. You know, I was quite good at running and javelin and hurdles. And, you know, I was always on the school team. You seem quite tall. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. So it was something I was good at. And then that gives you inspiration. Oh, I'm good at something. And then you do it more. So it was more like that. And then I got, I did have a period of that going to gym to look good. You know, like, I think it was like 16, 15 with a lad to the bro, you know, chinos and and Toms and shit like that. You know what I mean? Like that period, bro. And then now it's gone to that point. Like you say, it's like, right, I just need to look after my body now. Like whatever that is, if it's going for a walk one day, that's fine. Or going in the sea, cold water, whatever sauna, gym. Because how close are you to the beach now? It's about two minute drive, bro. Might as well have to stay overnight. It's worth it, brother. Manchester, it's like...
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's a nice sea here. There are nice places to walk around Manchester, but when you go further out, you realise what else. That's why I'm conveying the fans a little bit, but it's about you. So that might have helped the popularity then. The kids at schools generally seem to like the sporty kids. Yeah. See, I was the guy who wasn't getting picked. Yeah. So I wasn't popular. I wasn't good at it. I just liked doing it. Yeah. So... Where do you look, have you got any vision for your life when you were younger? I think the first visions I remember, I remember like, yeah, I remember meditating in front of this statue, this Buddha that we have. And was that normal for you, meditation? It was almost to look for something, yeah. I would always sit there and be like, what, like, something's going to come. Like, and I didn't know why I was meditating, like, And I'd look and I'd be like, has anything changed? Had it come already from your mum, your dad? I think it was the Buddhist influence going to Thailand and seeing my uncle as a monk and seeing the monks there chanting and going to the temple because every time you go on holiday. Exactly, yeah. Did you decide to meditate or did somebody instruct you? No, I just was like, right, let's do what these monks do and see, like, something's got to happen, hasn't it? You know, and then I'd be there like half an hour and my eye, nothing's like, you know, like, there's a kid like wanting something. I've had students like that. I'm like, there's nothing to see here, mate. Closer. Like, when's the awakening happening? No, I'm joking. Am I enlightened yet? Am I enlightened yet? God? God, is that you? Jesus? So I had a few times like that. But I didn't really think about the future until I was like, I'd say 16, 17. Yeah, 16. My mum and dad had a divorce. It was quite a heavy divorce, you know. How was that for you? That was deep, you know. And... As a result, I didn't end up seeing or talking to my dad for like 12 years. Yeah, and that's only re-circled the last few years. So, been a journey with that. You know, it was an alcoholic. It built up over years, alcohol abuse. And then it just got to a peak, you know, one night where a knife came out. And basically, I had to pull my dad off my mum, you know. And I was only 15, you know. And then... called the police, locked the door and loads of stuff happened anyway. But after that, my mum had a carpet cleaning business and she just couldn't wait because she was so depressed and she was taking what the doctors had given her. And then one day I was trying to talk to her and I could just see like a spirit was somewhere else, you know? And I was like, I need to like quit college and help my mum. I just started college. What were you doing in college? I was doing PE, and art, PE, and something else. So you had a little bit of creativity. Yeah, it started growing. And then when I got my GCSEs, my art teacher was actually like, you're good at art. And I was like, oh, actually. And then it was like, yeah. So it kind of grew from there. And then on that day, when I saw my mum like that, I was like, yeah, mum, I'm going to stop college and I'm going to work with the carpets, you know, fucking clean carpets. Not that I really wanted to do that. Well, this is it, isn't it? You know, family's family. Your dad's not there anymore, taking care of her. Exactly. I can't speak for you of that obligation to sort of take care of the mum. That's it, isn't it? Because if your mum's not there, you know what I mean? We're not entertaining that. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? Because I lost my dad to a heart attack and it's like, now my mum's like... the main G that's left. I remember my previous partner was like, but who would you choose? And I was like, you don't want to know. You don't want to ask that question, darling. Yeah, exactly. Wipe my arse. Yeah, exactly. Change my nappies and we'll talk. So go on. So you decided to to sort of so your dad's had issues with alcohol yeah I imagine that's played out in that family household it's like you said it grew yeah it grew over years my dad used alcohol as a crutch as well one of the reasons why like lovely person but struggling to deal with reality so then using the medication that they're provided with which is bullshit alcohol or cigs
SPEAKER_02:or
SPEAKER_00:shit fast food whatever we've all got a million addictions we can use to suppress how we feel so you're seeing that probably getting worse and worse yeah and how's that for you are you is it feeling a bit unsettled in yourself because of it like yeah i mean every time like every weekend it would be like as it got to the peak of it anyway it'd be like it up in a can And me and my sister would go upstairs straight away. Because we knew that he'd either start saying something about what, just bullshit. You know what I mean? And then it gets to points where then it gets a physical and then that's when it's, and then it's like, no, it's not right. You know, you can't be shouting at my mum or whatever. And we'd hear it all upstairs, you know? Did that ever get you used to having it out with your dad or was it? No, just that one moment where... So that was when it... That was it. Basically, my mum was like, like, I screamed my name and I ran downstairs and he had the knife on her throat like this, like behind her. And I just like 15 and I just, something came in me, man, like spirit, like a fire. And I grabbed him and I flung him across the living room. Literally flew. And I was like, what the, is that me? Yeah, I was like, literally. And he just went like, literally. And I just dragged him out the house, locked the door, and he started trying to smash the windows in and everything. He's just done a mad thing. Just like a red mist. Yeah, man. Yeah. Letting up all the pain within him to come out unskillfully. Pretty much. And so that was that, bro. And then didn't see him for like 12 years. And like I said, it kind of come full circle where I'd accepted things in my life about three years ago now. And then kind of come to the point where I was like, I don't want to die not seeing my dad, actually. So then I messaged him off Facebook and I just said, hi, Papa, you know, hope you're well. It'll be good to see you one time. You know what I mean? And then he was like, yeah, it'd be good to see you. And then since then it was kind of built this relationship. You're still your dad, innit, at the end of the day. Exactly, innit? This is it. It's a horrible... thing to happen. But if we can't forgive people for the worst thing they've ever done, we're all fucked. This is it. We're not just the worst moment. Exactly. And I come to that point in myself and it was like, yeah. I can go to him, I can look him in the eyes and I can say, I love you. Truly, you know. Well, that's true love. It's unconditional, isn't it? Exactly. Unconditional love, that divine feminine essence that runs through everybody's cells. It only doesn't turn up when it doesn't feel safe to. Yes. So if you don't feel safe with the other person to be your authentic self with them, then of course you've got blocks up to them. And that's where you can't be present with how they make you feel. So the love can't go to those parts. You've clearly decided to sit with your shit. Yeah. Which is meditation with Michael condoned. It's what I teach people to do. Like just sit with it and everything will come back. So we'll go to there. I want to come back. So you're now helping out with the carpet business. Yes. So you've abandoned PE and art. Yeah. So abandon all that kind of just, yeah, went straight into grafting basically, cleaning people's carpets. And it was hard in the beginning. There wasn't much work and it was like winter time. and my mum didn't have a website and certain things, it was that time things were coming in, Facebook was kind of, so then I kind of got on all that, you know, I was like, right, we're going to make a website, we're going to make a promo video, we're going to get Facebook page, and then it took off, you know, a lot more. I could do with you. Can you come and help me out, bro? Past life, that, bro. I'm a musician now. Yeah, fuck that. And yeah, so it kind of took off in a good way and then that kind of supported my journey Like I probably did about a year or two and then it was like, right. And then, no, I did about a year. And then my mum was like, I want to go to India. Okay. Yeah. And I want to take you and Blouse and I want to go for like three months or two months or something. What's your sister called? Blousey. Blousey? Yeah, yeah. My mum's called Diane. So then we went to India and that was like, I was 16 and Blouse was, Blousey was about, 13 or something or 12 and mum just went backpacking South India Karnataka go Hampi you know all the Karela all the beautiful spots you know Gokarna how was that for you oh man that just opened it up then that was like obviously at the time is this a moment yeah for all of us I think we've been grafting at Carpe yeah dad's not here anymore exactly mum's on these tablets mum's like right I need a fucking I need a new yeah you know a recalibration sometimes the chat so it just needs to be turned literally and she came off all the medication on that trip like we read Rich Dad Poor Dad I don't know if you've heard of it yeah yeah Robert Kiyosaki Robert Kiyosaki yeah the Japanese American guy yeah and we got a plan in our head of like right we're going to go back to England I'm going to where it graphed and I'm going to buy houses and rent them out, you know, and then use the mortgage, the equity to buy another house. And I keep moving the mic. For those who aren't watching the video, my eye just, my eye just switched. Stop knocking me mic, yeah. This will be a story, like next, next part of you will be like, yeah, I had this one guy who just kept touching the mic, man. I get it a few times. There was one where I hadn't typed so we had this idea anyway to build So we could travel. That was the goal, to be free, basically, not to become a millionaire. It was to be financially free so that I could be in India and live off the rent or whatever. And anyway, we did it, got three houses, and the plan was 10. But got to that point, and then I was like, I don't want to be in this system. I'm like, fucking accountants, mortgages, banks, contracts. getting new mortgages, all this, putting everything on. And I was just like, you know what? I don't really want to be this. Yeah. And it was like, actually, I don't want to be, you know, my goal is to be out of this system, but this is just dragging me in to try and get out. But actually you can't get out using the thing. Yeah. I mean, you could do, I feel, and people do it, but it's not the way I wanted to go, you know? And then anyway, ended up, yeah. getting rid of those. And then I invested in my van, my instruments, you know, went travelling. So we started getting into the music then, have we? So, this was the... When was this again? Sorry. So you were in India. You decided you were going to get the properties. You started doing the properties. We haven't mentioned finding love for music yet. Yes. So this was when I was 16. So I'd come back. I grafted until I was about 19. That was it. The three years there. Saved some money. Grafted like cleaning 10 houses a day. Like literally getting in at nine o'clock at night. Dark. stinking of piss and shit because it's people's fucking animals and that. And then, you know, and then... I thought you just hadn't had time to go to the toilet yet.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not,
SPEAKER_00:no, I'm joking. I swore enough here. Didn't have time for a break. And then when I was 19, that's when I went to Nepal alone. Right. And that was my first trip alone. And... How was that? That was amazing. And I was only had a month... like in my head. And then it just went on for like a year and a half of traveling. It started in Nepal. climbed like to every space camp and that was sick you know I was only 19 and just in the Himalayas like whoa this is mad seeing all the temples all the villages and then because you've had this link to the sacred already yes I feel it was always there yeah yeah yeah and you think you manifest what you put your energy into but your energy only goes what you're focusing on that's why people who focus on what they don't want manifest more of it exactly your energy's forgotten so you've clearly had this focus on yeah and you've manifested the Himalayas literally and then I went to Thailand after that and then that's when I went back to the village for the first time yes there we go lad thank you very much carry on and then I went back to my village where my dad's from without telling my dad and not seeing my dad for I think it was like seven years now. And then, so I just rocked up. I knew where it was though. I knew the name of the village. And it's like in the sticks, you know, called Ban Cao, which means house of rice. Cause everyone's a rice farm around there, you know? So anyway, I rocked up at the village. I'm like a bit hippie, you know, like rips in my t-shirt. My hair was long. Rocked up in my grandma's house. My grandma like opposite door. She's like, it's like, wait, like, I can't fully communicate with her, but I got what she was saying. And she was like, what's going on with your life? You need to sort it out. She's like, go to the temple. That was the first day I'd seen her in seven years. Yeah. Go to the temple. She knew. You're a mess. Yeah, basically I needed to find something, you know, I needed a bit of guidance and I did. We don't get ritualized into manhood. Exactly. There's no more ceremony into like this transition. Like it's just, you're a man now. Go and have a drink. Literally. It's like, what do you mean? Like, that's a man. Literally. So I went there. At the time, my uncle was a monk in the temple. So I went to him. And I said, you know, my dad's one, so on, and you know, you're my uncle. And then he was like, oh, and then he kind of like looked at me and was like, oh, you're different, you know, you've had a different life, you know, and like, do you want to, are you interested in Buddhism? Like the first 10 minutes and all that. Yeah, yeah, I am. He had his friend on the phone translating the whole conversation. And then he was like, oh, well, you can Google translate then. Well, not really. It was easy to just do the person. I think no chat TV to you or anything like that. Yeah. And then I ended up just staying that night at the temple and ended up being there a few weeks actually. And then being immersed in the Buddhism and chanting every day, I was reading mantras off books. How was that? That was awesome, bro. It was a beautiful experience to just be sat there. And there was only about seven monks in the temple. And you would just sweep up every morning, like do chores. You can't use electric after like 12 o'clock. You can't cook after then. So all the food that you have is like offerings from people. Why can't you? There's probably certain philosophies behind it, but I didn't go that deep. But there were just the rules explained to me. And I was like, oh, fair enough. I'll try that out. I'm in your house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of thing. That's it, innit? Kind of. Yeah. So it was just like that. And then, yeah, that kind of realigned me a bit. And then I just kept traveling after that. Went to Mongolia. All different stuff. When you said realigned, what felt like it was out of line? I think... Something in my spirit, more than even me being conscious of what was, you know, I was just on this journey to find something. And how was it manifesting? It was manifesting in me going to these places and going to Nepal and then just keep... Yeah, and it had been built up, I'd say, over the years, like through childhood and not feeling that connection. And then, yeah, you know, going to look for it in a way and going to be like, well, if it's not here, it must be out there, right? And then... Finding summit, but then realizing, you know, you come full circle anyway, and it's always here anyway. But I needed that to see that, you know. Yeah, it was like that, bro. And then that was the first time traveling. And then I come back, work like six months. And then I went again, did another year, two years. You said work six months, you went down on the property. That was grafted. That was back carpets because my mum kept the business. And then my sister then... had gone onto the carpets because it's like a family business by now we've got a website you know it's good money and can support our family so my sister was there when I'd come back I'd just work a few days and then earn my money and then I went back the next trip I went to Jamaica spent two months there that was awesome met the Rastas and yeah just really immersed there with the music so we're getting into the music now Not fully yet, to be honest. So yeah, this was still discovery mode. Yeah, which is mad. Because I must have been... I was about 20 then. So then I went there and... And then, you know, in Kingston, there's like reggae parties every day and it's in a different sport. What's a reggae party look like? Man, it's like a load of Rastas. I mean, it depends where it is, but there's like Kingston Dub Club, which is on the hill. And then all the Rastas are there, like 150 people, all full like Rasta outfits, everything, man, like chalices out, like bamboo bongs, everything, massive joints, people walking around. Bamboo bongs, you know.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They call them steamers out there. Yeah. And everyone was steaming. Yeah, pretty much. And then the music, it was like a prayer, man. You know, and now they dance to it. Now they chanted. It was like, it reminded me of being in church and like in the, back in childhood, the Catholic school and singing the hymns. But it was more like enthusiastic and more colorful and more spirit like music. it was actually flowing. Yeah. It felt like that. Yeah. It felt a bit more like that. It's like, no, it's gone. That's it. And the people are dancing and that's the prayer. Well, I told you that I did that. You know, I could do those meditation journeys, like the, like immersive meditation stories. One of them was returned to Zion, which was all about coming to remembering jar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It was like a cultural appreciation of the Rastafari. The fact that it comes through the reggae and that, and I thought that I'd make a mint journey. Yeah. I can see how you mean it's like prayer. Cause if I'm, I can't, I can't really have hectic music in a meditation. It's like their music is, I don't know. It always spoke to me. Yeah. Like not just the words, but you say it's like the vibration. Yes. The frequency. Yeah. There's something about it that really has always called to me. So I kind of get an image. Yeah. You know, I feel like it was born out of, like seeing the system and like a rebelness, you know, that's, that's the essence of reggae music. I feel like to talk about the current situations and what's creating it. So that's the essence of this music, which is literally empowering. You know, it's, rebel music. It's soul rebel. You know, you're a soul rebel when you listen to this music because your soul is a vibration and you're taking these vibrations that are making us see this life for what it is really, you know, instead of the wall that's being pulled over our eyes most of the time, you know. So that was beautiful. What do you mean? What do you mean? Are you saying they don't care about us? Maybe she's truing it. This isn't for my good. And then, yeah, I travelled all around Jamaica. That was awesome. And then I went to Nicaragua Yeah, I followed my ex-girlfriend there, German girlfriend. That's why I ended up in Australia. That's how I got into it. I followed Isabella. She's fit. She says we're going to go dance and share in a circle for sure. Yeah, that'll do. So you were chasing a girl to Nicaragua? Pretty much. Well, she actually came to Jamaica to meet me and then she was like, oh, I've always wanted to go to Nicaragua. So I was like, oh, never really heard of it. I didn't even know it was a country. Yeah, I'm never really... Central South America didn't really didn't look at it so yeah I was like oh let's go rocked up and then it was like huh this is interesting country like very felt like you're in a you know them gang films where everyone's got like tattoos and skinheads it's like that you're like oh shit man it's rough here like well i went to you know dominican republic yeah it's like the size height yeah like maybe we went to just go for a walk and people walk with like shotguns on the shoulders and that and i was like yeah let's go back full power in it bro those places because you used to like how it is in say manchester ridlington hall and um It's just, we don't even have guns. Never mind seeing people casually walking around with head tattoos. It's quite interesting. Did you feel a bit intimidated? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I actually got robbed there. And my passport, my money. We all got robbed actually. There was about four of us. We just slept on a beach on Ometepe, which is like a double volcanic island in a lake. So it's two volcanoes that meet. on an island inside a lake. That's mean. Surrounded by bull sharks. It's the only lake in the world. I thought you were about to say surrounded by bullshit. What? Surrounded by bullshit, man. Literally, right. It was a mad place. Bull sharks are all around. Yeah. That's mad, that. And the reason why the bull sharks are in there, because it used to be connected to the ocean, and then obviously over time it's dried up, and then there's a thin line between the Pacific Ocean and Ometepe Lake, and then that. So obviously he got landlocked and the sharks stayed there. And then this howler monkey's there. So you're rocking up on this boat. You're seeing these two volcanoes, sharks in the water. And then you just hear these like, and it's like sunset. And you're like, where the fuck am I going? Is this like Jurassic Park shit? I'm like, oh man, something's gonna happen here. And lo and behold, you know, my girlfriend cheated on me on this island. in front of me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was mad,
SPEAKER_00:bro. It was a mad island. It brought up a lot. First time taking acid with her. First time got robbed altogether. What was that? Yeah, so we went on the beach and just like slept as you do, you know, and then... Yeah, we woke up and all our bags were just gone and we were like, oh shit. Also, it wasn't like at gunpoint. It wasn't like a bad, you know, it was just like. Casual. Yeah, like some locals just seen us and been like. Yeah, that's mine now. It was just like, cha-ching. When the sun goes down, I know where I'm off. Shoes, you lose. And then we were all just like, oh shit. So we had to make our way back to the capital. Was there anything in Bolton? I mean, just money and passport, you know. Oh, only that. Only that. Fair enough. So pretty much, yeah. She cheated on you in front of you. You're going to have to let us know. So, yeah, it was a bad one, bro. It was a really, I can't really, I still don't really know. But basically, she'd come to Jamaica. Then I went to Nicaragua with her. And then we'd made our way down to this island. And then that's where we were on like this hippie commune thing. Right. That's where it all turns. No, I'm joking. When it starts saying free love. No, I'm joking. Love and light. Oh, is it? Yeah. Not with my girl. You know, I was just a young boy. She was a bit older than me. And I was probably, yeah, I was in love with her. And then I feel like. Were you a bit wet behind the ears? Yeah. I was, I got took for a ride, but it was a good lesson. I love you. And then there was this like Argentinian guy that came and you know we all did acid together and then something like happened i don't know if it was the acid or what and then she just started talking about him like yeah like when i speak to him i feel like he's like an alien or not like it's real random shit and i was like okay and i was like what but because you love someone you just go along with it don't you yeah all right and then anyway one day it just seemed like kissing and i'm just like like hugging and kissing and then i'm just like huh Like my heart just sunk, obviously, you know, you're like, what the fuck? And then, but also I kind of just observed it for a while. Cause you're in this setting of like, like a festival, you know? Yeah. It was like being at a conscious festival, this commune, fires, pizzas, music, you know, and you're just there at the festival. And then you just sit there like, how can someone fucking do that? You know what I mean? And then, and then it went on for a bit. And then at one point I just, I had enough, you know, after like literally a week. Cause I was also like, are they going to say something? I'm not. gonna be like what's going you know you've got to fucking come and tell me if you're doing I'm too hot playing this bullshit I must have some sort of like Latin blood in me I'd have already been over straight away maybe I should have done that because I had to do that anyway because that's what happened because at the end I was like what the fuck's going on I was like do you love me or do you love him and then she's like I cried and then she's like well I love you and I love him and I was like alright I'm not having this bullshit I'm off so I don't share yeah yeah I'm not sure it's caring, but you must be a patient guy. I know there's some listeners going. I want to be waiting a fucking minute. Yeah. Anyway. So Michael's the name meditation is the game and meditation with Michael has now launched its very own website. Everything I'm doing is going to be on there. from meditation classes which you can join in person catch up if you missed one or just join online from the comfort of your own home one-to-one sessions we've got loads of freebies like the chakra meditations and we've also got a new 10-day beginners course so if you really want to build that strong foundation i've suffered with anxiety depression suicidal tendencies i've lost family members i've been an addict unhealthy relationships coming out my ears meditation was the panacea learning how to sit with any sensation that rises really just helps you to master that patience and those who master patience will master everything else so i want to pass that on it is my purpose to alleviate my own suffering show us how to do the same and we can all live more peacefully it sounds all right that done it so this website is a lovely little hub for you to find everything i'm doing from the ecstatic dances to the floating meditation journeys and awaken the power within. Peace and love, guys. And I didn't speak Spanish, you know. They could speak Spanish. And then they were like, look, we want to take you back to the capital. Like, we can't just fucking leave you. You know, it's like hundreds of kilometers away. You don't even know where you're going. Yeah. You know, and then she robbed me again. And then... Robbed his heart. Yeah. And then, so they took me back to the capital, which was nice, I felt. And then after that, I was like, goodbye. And then that was kind of it. And then I just... I had a tent and I camped in the car park of the embassy. Well, it was actually a consulate. They didn't have an embassy. The nearest embassy was Costa Rica. And embassies is where you can print your passport. So they had to call the... Embassy there. I had to talk to some guy and explain my story. And then that was all good. But I just slept in the car park. And then, yeah, after that, my mum paid for my flight out of Mexico. I had like$50 she sent me. And I had like two weeks in Mexico, though. And I was like, let's just see how this is going to work. I was already on the floor, you know. And I was like, life's going to work out. Couldn't get anywhere. Yeah. That's the good thing about rock bottom. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? It doesn't go any lower. And I got to... Cancun and I just started brushing my teeth in the airport ate a biscuit for my breakfast and then kind of just walked out the airport saying singing everything's gonna be alright you know and then stuck my thumb out and then as soon as you know someone comes up beautiful Mexican family mother and daughter hey where you going I'm like ah beach you know I don't know yeah and then they were like okay come in come in and then I was like cool I got in and then they were like then like the first thing they said they like turned around they were like but one thing we have to ask are you gringo like are you American and I was like er gringo and then they were like American and I was like no I'm from England and Thailand and then they were like oh we love England people they don't like Americans in Cancun because of the spring break and you know it's like Was it spring break? Yeah, like drinking. And the locals are probably like, fuck, get out of my town now. You know, so that was the first question. Aaron, just chill. To the beach.
UNKNOWN:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I got there anyway, dropped me off. And then I'm walking. And then I see him again next to me. And then I'm like, oh, hello. You know, final goodbye. And then I see him again. And then I'm like, oh. And then the bib. And then I'm like, okay. And then I go, are you all right? we're thinking you can actually stay at our house, you know? And I was like, oh, okay, then that'll be nice. It's me trying to find somewhere, you know, I've got$50 anyway. It's not going to last me long in Cancun anyway, you know? Got to their house, fucking security guards, like they're fucking like gates and shit. And I was like, oh, shit, man. No, I'm joking. No, it was beautiful. They cooked, like, quesadillas for me, bro, like, proper, like, with a cactus inside and everything, cheese and bread. And you're, like, down at the bottom, so you're, like... Bro, it was proper, like, you know, I really remember those times and still have contact with them. Oh, dear. Areli, Areli, the daughter's called, Alexia, one of them's called. They took me out to some clubs and that. It was really cool. Yeah. And then that was, like, a week and then another week left. So I said, oh, can you take me to Tulum? Well, the... hippies are or whatever. So I went down there and they dropped me off on a beach and I ended up just staying there for like three, four nights by myself in a tent, you know, not much food, just water and the stars and the beach and it wasn't anyone's land. It was just on the beach, a bit past Tulum. And then I got a bit bored, you know, I was like, right, let's see what's around, you know, there must be some cool things happening. So I started hitchhiking and then someone took me to the town Tulum, away from the beach. I got to this like hostel, kind of like a house run by a Czech guy. And it was full of artisans, like macrame people, musicians that were on the street busking. Then they'd go there and that's where they'd stay. But from Argentina, Mexico, like that's when I first saw how these artisans actually travel, especially in South America. And then they all put the stuff out on the floor and they're all, that's how they make the money. And then I was like, oh, this is cool. And then in that place, that's where I met, A shaman from America, and he made his own DMT. A gringo.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he made his own DMT from the plants. And he'd been there like 16 years and all this. For people who don't know what a DMT is? Yes. It's, I don't know the official diamond. That diamond from Mephistopheles. Or whatever. What he said. Basically, it's a very psychedelic compound that's found in certain plants and plants. We release it when we're born and we die and when we dream sometimes. I think that's it. Tiny little doses. And when people make it, they make it in far more concentrated, a far higher dose. And it's also known as the spirit molecule. Yes, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. We're not telling you to try it. Yeah. This is not financial advice. No, don't call it spiritual advice. If you are called and it's legal. Anyway, what was it for life for you? Yeah. So, I mean, it was pretty mad. because basically I said, look, I don't have any money, you know? And then he started trying to like promote and saying, you know, they're only 10 pound a ceremony. And I was like, ah. 10 quid? I was like, oh,$10 or something. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, man. Like, I don't have money you know I've just been robbed in Nicaragua and he's like oh I'm really sorry man like he's about 60 you know he's like oh well you never know like some guy might come in like a richer person and pay for your ceremony you know and I was like bit of American accent by the way I thought that too I didn't practice that in a long time and then I was like nah that's not gonna happen I've got like three days left you know and then I'm off you know no chance next day comes fucking comes in with this guy old English hippie giant And then the shaman comes up to me. He's like, you've got a free ceremony today. And I was just like, oh. And I was like, am I ready for this? Like, actually, aren't I? Jeff turned up. Hey, Jeff, I'll pay for it. Oh, okay. And anyway, I just went along with it. I was young. I was about 20. And then my Mexican friend came with me. He was only like 18. And anyway, I went to the jungle in a cenote, they call them, which is like a cave with blue water. And that's where we did it. And he said, right, I'm going to, pass the pipe round then I'm going to do the sacred tongue the chanting and I was like yeah cool alright whatever man so I sat there and then the lake's like the water's about three metres away and then it kind of drops in and I'm sat here Jeff's like sat there my Mexican friend's here and then the shaman's like stood up we take two puffs and then he's like all this stuff and then all these colours are coming for me like whoo like It felt like a peacock. Kaleidoscopic colours like leaving my body and it felt like I was going somewhere. And then in this time, I had like this ruffling, like leaves. And then my Mexican friend kind of hit me and he's like, hey, Ari. He's like, what the fuck? And then Jeff's there next to me. He's like, having like an epileptic fit. But he's hitting his head on the rocks. This is the guy who paid it for you. Yeah, and he's like 70. He's fucking bleeding on his head already. Going like this. On the floor though. Probably shouldn't have had rocks. Like laid down though. Like this. And then the shaman goes. Like full on like. Yeah, I've seen it. Going into it. And I was just like, look. I was like, what the fuck? And then my Mexican friend's just like. And then I'm like, well, you know, like, okay. And then I swear down. on my life that he just like went into the water like a snake like he was on his back and he like literally this is Jeff this is Jeff the 70 year old man yeah and he went like that on his back so he went like you know it was like literally like a fucking exorcism bro I'm not even joking I know you're not and he went and he just twisted in and I was just like and then the shaman just followed him like and then I was just like what the fuck so I ran up to the water and he's just under it and the blood's just going like that and he's just like floating like that and the blood's just and it's crystal blue water but it's beautiful but then you just get this and then my Mexican friend is just like holding his head like what the fuck the shaman's there going like full on screaming and I'm going to the We need to fucking help him. What the fuck are you doing? Like screaming in his face. And then he's just not there. He doesn't even hear me. Do you think he's like dying? I thought someone needs to help him basically. Is he in a bad state? Yeah, I mean, his fucking blood on his head is under the water. It's a bit like a fucking snake. He's like 70, you know, it's a bit like, yeah. And then so I was kind of trying to, and then he wasn't listening to me. So I actually jump in the water at this point and I'm holding him. And he's just bleeding on me, you know? And I'm just like, Jeff. I'm like, and all I could say was love. And I was like, I give you love, man. Like, you're going to be all right. Like, you're going to be all right. And I wanted him to be all right, genuinely. And then he come back however long, I don't even know. And he was like, am I back? Am I back to earth? And I was like, yeah, yeah, you're back, bro. We've got you. And he was like, thank you. He was like, thank you. You were the white light. You were the angel. And I was just like, what the fuck? And I got him out. My Mexican friend's just like, what the fuck? We got him out. And then Mexican friend's like, I'm off. Like these guys are crazy. Like, yeah. And I was like, I don't know these guys. Had you done it yet? No, it's his first time. Had you not even had the DMT? I'd done it. Yeah. So that's when the colours were coming. But that sobering moment, I think just my mate hitting me there and then seeing that just sobered me up. I still question it, you know, and be like, was that the trip? But yeah, coming to the end, Anyway, we ran back to the hostel, me and my Mexican friend, and we were like, these old guys are fucking mad. What the fuck they're on, man? We got back to the hostel, told everyone. You ain't ready for that level. Yeah, yeah. And then everyone just started laughing at us like, we told you not to go with the crazy shaman. And then I was like, well, I can't understand Spanish, you know? No comprende. Yeah, exactly. No entiendo amigo. And then anyway, they come back about half an hour after us. And he had this massive bump on his head. So for me, that was like confirmation. I was like, that did happen. Because I was fucking like, was this trippy? Yeah, I was like, what? Yeah. Had you done any psychedelics before? Well, I'd done the week before, or about two weeks before the LSD, Californian, which was also a full trip. That was... I did mushrooms before a few years ago in Indonesia, but not like, I mean, that was a trip, but not like a full, like, you know. Not that. Yeah, not that. Not snakes. Yeah, exactly. Snake back
SPEAKER_02:over
SPEAKER_00:it. And anyway, I got back and I said to Jeff, are you all right, man? Like, yeah. And then he was like, yeah, yeah, I feel amazing. Like, I feel the best I've ever felt in my life. Like, thank you for helping me on the journey. That was just surface level. Yeah, exactly. Summer happened and I was just like, huh. And then I went to the shower and said, what was that about, man? Like, what the fuck? He could have died, like. you know and then he was like it kind of was a bit like took a bit of I think offense to me saying that because he's like oh that was nothing man like I deal with exorcism you know got in his ego a bit I was like oh I do exorcisms and you know it was just a bad spirit attached onto him that needed to be released in the water and I was like okay that could make sense and I was like and then he was like but I've got some you know will make you feel better and I was like oh what's that I've got some opium and I was like alright then fuck it you know I've already done I've already gone this far you know so I saw the old people over there fucking woke up like a full 36 hours later like everything's great you know just like literally bro ultimate pain relief so that was that that's why people like it literally bro blocks out everything more than anything what was that like It was great at that time, actually, because I think I was thinking a lot of stuff and like, what's, you know, what's this? Yeah, and just like made me just shut off and sleep. Didn't matter what the rest was. Exactly. Shut down, have a break, have an off. That's it. Again, we're not condoning opium. No, not condoning any of these substances. This is just our experience. Yeah, that's it. So yeah, that was that. And then I flew back to England after that, but that was one... Tripping. I feel like we need to cleanse this, mate. For those who can't see, I'm doing the new Aguida Fullerida spray. In meditation with Michael still now. Link in description. So we've had that mad experience. And then did we do anything else in Mexico? That was about it. And then I went home and then, yeah, after that, it was like, yeah, even coming back in a way more lost. well that's what I think happens when you first have these moments which shake your systems to the point that your core truths are like what the fuck is everything at first you've got to have that sort of discombobulating moment where you're not grounded in this new reality it's stretched you beyond what you were used to so you've gone out of your comfort zone now in the discomfort zone and it's about learning no that was reality and I know a bit more now I've seen a bit more
SPEAKER_02:And
SPEAKER_00:that's why these people who psychedelic hop, next thing, next thing, next thing, you're fucking with your mind, man. Your body's not a chance to process and integrate the lessons. You're just going, like we said, you're looking for the next source outside yourself that can solve it. And the master medicines aren't to be used in that way, are they? So the fact that you've gone home and you're feeling a bit discombobulated, how was that for you then? Yeah, it was all right. I feel like having a good family has always helped me, you know, mum and sister and that place to come back to. And I could always... That Fred. Yeah. That Fred you can always hang on to. That's it. And I can always share with them everything what I've just spoke about. So there was... Well, your mum was getting down to your shoes and she's like, pop a light. I was like, yeah, that's cute, that. Because my mum comes to all my... Not the dances. She won't come to the dances. She comes to like the journeys and the classes, the workshops. Oh, that's cool. So you had your family. They sort of... How long were you feeling a bit... um probably a few months and then i kind of just booked a flight to india after that okay and then that's when the music came and everything you know that's when it came almost an hour in and the music here's the thing though that's why i like people to get to know that like they might like you for your music they might like antarma or cushiony love carry tree whatever but there's a person who, what led to this. If you love the art, what led to the art? I always love the story, man. Like, so you've gone to India and we're finally finding the music. Yes. Do tell. Yes. So yeah, on that journey, India, and then didn't know how long I was going to be there. And, and then kind of found a teacher, a Gemma teacher in Goa, in Arambol called Dov. And, um, I ended up staying with him for about two months, learning djembe and percussion and rhythm, and then just fell in love with it and had that connection straight away with the drum. Did you feel like it was natural then? With the djembe, it was like... That's what Kushney was saying. He was saying it was literally like, it wasn't like he'd learned something, he remembered how to play it. Yes, exactly. So that's how it was for you then. Yeah, especially with the djembe. Yeah, it was beautiful and it made sense. It all like aligned because it was like, well... Yeah, my grandma's like half African. I've got this African in me. Makes sense. Yeah, of course. Not that anyone that doesn't have... like we're saying just the lineage of things the djembe is an african yeah west african you know i said i do those trips well they're all at a place in town i was telling you about called transmute studio they sponsor this actually and they have a whole djembe selection and they have classes every week west african drumming classes and then people do west african dancing to the drummers and it's there is something about the djembe yeah i there's different drums you can use like and i just always found that was the one that yeah it's a powerful tool and i'm still trying to learn the difference between a tap and a slap no is it like tone tone and slap tone and slap that's it yeah so we've got bass tone slap and i always just tone and slap at the same thing still right now but for you it's come naturally yes yeah it did then yeah and what still does i feel and after that i kind of bought a synthetic djembe and then just traveled with it, put my clothes inside it. And that was my backpack, you know? Yeah. For about a year and a half. And I just jam with anyone and everyone in airports, bus stations, like busk on the street and just for the music, you know, just to connect and, Yeah. So how was it being like that then? That was beautiful. That was just living free and yeah, young, wild and free in a way, you know. And then at that time as well, I went to Nepal, I spent six months in India and then five months in Nepal. And then that's where I picked up the macrame, which is the jewellery. I also make jewellery with crystals. Oh, okay. Coming soon to the meditation. You never know. Let's check it out. So they kind of came at the same time, you know, the music and the art so it was like what jewellery are you making then I make like macrame like weaving with crystals in yeah do we have one pieces here I've got some upstairs we'll show people we show people yeah so yeah that's another beautiful art form we'll put all the links that people can find you at the end anyway so anyone who's interested in seeing an Arachai made what you say it's like It's weaving, yeah, with string and crystals. Yeah, basically to hold them in place. I'll have a little look after the show. Yeah, and then started just making stuff for people. People started randomly asking me. And then come back to England after about a year and a half again. And then I just started like busking on the street in Hull. Okay. And selling my jewelry on the floor, like as the artisans do, because I had a teacher from Chile also in this time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he taught me silversmithing. So I learned silver, but I connected more to the weaving anyway, but I learned that. come back here and he told me how to live on the street in a way and how to sell you know and so i did that made some money a good money and then that paid for my next trip and i was a bit lost again and then my mum was like oh why don't you go to new zealand and i was like oh isn't that where like first-time travelers go you know like i've been all these you know a bit in my ego like yeah you know all this cool and then but then i was like no you know that sounds true actually i mean i don't know new zealand sounds like i think it's like lord of the rings yeah yeah bro and i lived in australia and i should have gone yeah it was magical man is it oh man so i went there and then ended up staying three years there yeah oh three years yeah three years ago six seven years ago you must have our story yes so yeah i mean First day I started busking on the street, selling my jewellery and then someone just come up straight away like, do you make these bro? And I was like, yeah, yeah. And then I had my silver and that and he was like, can I have this one, that one, that one, that one? And I was like, yeah man, it'll be like$400. And he was like, yeah, yeah, sweet bro. And then we went to the ATM, just got the money out and paid me and I was just like, First day, literally. First day. Packed up my shit, went back to the hostel, told the people, I just made$400. And they're all like, what the
SPEAKER_01:fuck? Like,
SPEAKER_00:I have to pick fruit or I have to work in a bar and you just get, and all this. And it was really cool. And then- Yeah, but that was your art. It's a bit different. Yeah, that's it, isn't it? Yeah. And then, yeah, another day goes by and I was selling also. I didn't really know where I was going. I just rocked up. I didn't know. I didn't do any research. And then- set my stuff down and then I see for the first time like a Maori guy with face tattoos they call them tamaku full like face tattoos and real long dreads grey dreads he was like 70 man he looked like Bob Marley Maori Bob Marley you know and he's like walking like strong as fuck everyone's in suits and that this is Queen Street like the most office street in Auckland I've got a little Bob vibe yeah people say that yeah I've got a little Marley vibe and he was just walking you know I was like, fuck, this guy's different. And then he just like sat next to me and I was just sat here and there's people just walking past. I had my jewelry out and he's just like looking at me and I'm just like, and he's like, and I'm just like, okay, he's not saying anything. So I'm just kind of doing my thing, like talking to some other people. And then he kind of whispers in my ear. He's like, I'm looking for something. And I'm just like, and I just kind of like go inside myself and I'm like, And then someone's like, just go in your bag. There's something in there. So I open my bag and I put my hand in there and I was like, yeah, that's it. So I go, that's for you, man. And then he just started crying, like bawling. Like, I found that I'm free. Oh, I'm free now. Blah, blah, blah. All this stuff. And I was like, what the fuck? You live quite a boring life. Yeah. And it was this stone I'd found on our coast here. Looked like an asteroid to me. I'd never seen. And I look at stones a lot, you know. So I was like, oh this is different and I made a necklace out of it and I took it there and it was that was the stone and anyway I just walked off and I'd never seen him again he just gave it him yeah but he said he was from Napui tribe which is the north tribes and anyway I ended up hitchhiking and blah blah and anyway someone took me to this Maori guy's house a carver because they knew I was a jewellery maker and this guy I'd also had full tar mocos called petara and yeah He did like this crazy healing, like energetic healing, mad carvings, like amazing man, like the best, most inspirational man I've ever met in my life. Yeah. And what were they called? He was called Petra. His wife was called Karen. Yeah. And in the north of New Zealand, the part of a tribe called Ngati Hine, Petra's passed on now to the other realm. But yeah, I... Ended up actually staying with him for about two years, him and his family, and learning carving. It was deep then. Yeah, and going to their temples, they're called Marais, and seeing all their carvings, and yeah, just seeing how they live as a tribe, and how they do things as a community, and really inspiring, you know. Is there anything that you learned from that time that you can pass on? Yeah, I mean, they have, so they have the temples, they're called Marais, What did I just say they're called? I was listening. No, that's house. Sorry. Oh, no. I've just forgot the word. They've got their temples anyway. We know what temples are. Yeah, yeah. And basically inside, they've got all these carvings and the photos of all the deceased ancestors, like hundreds of photos, bro. It's pretty trippy. And these tribe anyway that I was with, they would do this like, They call it wananga, which is like a spiritual meeting, basically, every Sunday. And basically, you come with all your offerings, like massage. They call it miri-miri over there. Massage, crystal healing, music, whatever. And you sit in the temple under the carvings that all the ancestors are watching. And you've got your own stations. And basically, they just offer the healing to whoever needs it for free in that time. And it's a... That's how they do things on a Sunday, you know? And that was fucking beautiful, man. Community. Yeah. And no money, no like, oh, it's£10 for this massage. I'll give you that for this. It's just, yeah, you're part of the community. This is it. Literally. That's lovely. So that was really inspiring to me. And it was like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I mean, they're so strong. They know the, Another good one that I really got inspired by was how they know the, they call it Faka Papa,
SPEAKER_02:which
SPEAKER_00:is a lineage. So they know their ancestors and every kind of kid is taught to know, like at least far back, you know. That'd be cool, man. Literally, bro. I never knew my granddad on my dad's side. He never even knew his dad. So we don't know any of that side. I never knew the gran. I only knew my gran and granddad. And I only know their mum and dad. I don't know them that well. So I wonder, I am curious. So they're actually taught that. They're taught that. And what they did, the name, how they lived. Because this family that I was with, Petra, his daughter, Laken, she was only 17. She could tell me her ancestors like, eight generations back so like almost a thousand years you know literally oh this is my great great grandmother she's called hinny blah blah blah she lived here and she did this and it's like
SPEAKER_02:whoa how the fuck
SPEAKER_00:do you know that like to know your ancestors like that man that's power you know because you know where you come from man and that's your roots into the earth energetic innit you know that's your energetic you know the vibrations that are flowing through you echoing from the past literally rather than looking blindly yeah floating around without roots and so that was I can see I feel that a lot more in myself wanting to know what my roots are more and more never really give a shit when I was a kid yeah I think you do as much as you as a kid but as you get a bit older you look into it yeah that's it so yeah that was yeah good times there and then and then I actually met my ex-girlfriend there who's kind of... Did she get off with you in front of you as well? No. He's done his obligatory every half an hour mic hit. It's going to have to be a padded one this one next time around. Just don't hit this mic. Don't hit this mic, yeah. And yeah, she got me into all the kind of the sound journeys and that because she was a yoga teacher and first did our conscious festivals in New Zealand, played at New Zealand Spirit Festival. So you got good enough to, you're carrying your drum, you've been doing it for quite a few years now haven't you have you picked up any other instruments or just the djembe just the djembe at this time but she already had her songs and like so i was just basically on the drums on a cajon and a djembe so you were the side yeah i was yeah and it was it was good man less pressure then yeah exactly and yeah so she kind of got me into that and And then we bought a van together. Okay. Traveled a van for a year. You know I like the van shout. Yeah. So you can give me a few tips. Yeah. North Ireland to South Ireland, travel all that. West coast. Any stories that stand out? Stories that stand out? Hmm. In the van?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I would say... Yeah, there's a few, but I'd say a good, a funny one is... Once I was in a place called Golden Bay, which is the top of the South Island, where all the hippies are. So New Zealand? Yeah, this is New Zealand. And we're in like a dock, campsite, department of conservation. And we're the only people in there. And then some guy is like knocking on our door, on our window, and it's cold and that. So we're like opening it and he's like, yo, he's like, yo man, do you want any weed? And I was like, yeah. Yeah, well, what you got? You know, like, he's like, I've got some weed. I was like, well, I've only got$40 on me. And he was like, oh, well, I'll give you whatever for that. And I was like, all right, man. And he just started piling a pile of weed in the van, like an ounce. And I was just like, yeah,$40, 20 quid. And I was just like, whoa. And at that time I was more stoner, you know, so it was like, fuck yeah. So it was a good time, bro. I had some funny times, yeah, but nothing too crazy either. Just going to the campsite, staying a lot of time in nature. Are you making money by doing the music? Yeah. So we'd have a gig every weekend or two. And you're selling a few jewellery pieces as well. Selling jewellery. I had shops that I was in in the north and they'd give me commission and just send me the money. So I'd make like 20 pieces, give them to them and then they'd put commission on and then just send me the money. So yeah, did that a while. And then... covid came and um yeah yeah everyone's just swimming along and then covid came yeah everyone so what happened yeah well basically i got a call off my sister one day crying in england i've been there for years and then she's like i've had to send mom to the like psychiatric like to send her somewhere and i'm like fuck like oh so she'd been like basically she had a breakdown yeah during COVID and yeah, was like tripping out, like didn't sleep for four days and said she'd killed me and stuff to Blousey, my sister, and my sister started getting worried, you know, so she had to call the psychiatric unit and get a section basically, voluntarily though. So that happened while I was there. On that day, and then I was like, fuck, I've got to go home. I really didn't want to. During COVID, I was in paradise. I was living on land in a tiny house and doing our gigs, doing our music. Well, your mum's your mum. This is it, isn't it, bro? So got the next fight, basically, and got to England. And yeah, it was like, we need to get her out of there. So we got her out as fast as we could. And then... As soon as she come out, I'd seen, she was like, I looked about 60, 70, and I was like, fuck, like, great. And like, yeah, I was like, fuck. Do you know what brought it on at all? Probably accumulation of different... I feel it was accumulation. And there's a lot of stuff in everyone's life that some people haven't seen or talked about and looked over. Well, that's their story, so we won't walk into that. That's it, innit? So, yeah. And... Yeah. And in this time, Petra, who was my teacher, carving teacher, which is crazy. He was like a head of a psychiatric unit in New Zealand for Maori people, him and his wife. So every day I'd be in their house and they'd come back and they'd tell me stories of the work. Oh, this guy, yeah, he fucking done this today and we had to do this. And yeah, telling me their experiences of how they've got through things with people, you know? that are on meth and that are seeing, hearing the ancestors all the time that can't explain things. So he was guiding me when I was home. of how to get through this you know that's a bit helpful yeah so it all lines up you know life you know everything's training for the next spot I feel well it's like oh this horrible thing's turned up oh I just so happen to have exactly the right people and tools exactly innit as if it was provided yeah serendipitously by something yeah and then he was like you know you need to take it to nature to balance her out and then what's medication she on? I was like, she's on this, this. And he's like, right, that's okay for now. But after like a week or two, slowly wean it off, blah, blah, blah, and all this. And I was like, yeah, okay. So we drove up to Skye, Isle of Skye, Hebrides, Scotland. And we camped near the fairy pools for like two weeks, which is a crystal blue waters from the mountains. And yeah, just ate food, just spent time with our mum. And she started coming back, balancing. Were you a bit desperate when you first went into it? Of course, yeah, man. You're like, Is she going to come back? You think you've lost your mom and that's the person that holds the house, everything together and all that has. I suppose it's quite a threat to the egoic structure of everything's been a certain way for so long. She's been a constant in your life and all of a sudden that's been shaken. So your whole psyche has technically been shaken plus your care. Yes, exactly. So then... that's been a journey since then. And that was about four, five years, four years ago, I'd say, getting on five. And since then, she's just been getting better and better. And we all have, and we've all, stuff's come up for all of us and we've got closer by sharing our shit and sharing our traumas that's happened to us and things we didn't know about each other, you know, and it's really made us closer together to, yeah, to be able to just live who we are, you know. in a better way. That's it really. Live more in your true authentic self and in your light. So we've been on that journey, bro. And kind of that kind of took us to here. That was the me coming back and then connecting with England, going to our stone circles. I was going to say, yeah, because you've been away from England. Yeah. This partner we had. So basically I got to England and then she was like, She hadn't been home in seven years either. She was from Ibiza. But she was like a resident in New Zealand and all this stuff and lived there. But then she went home and then she called me and was like, yeah, I think I just need some time by myself and with my family and to reconnect with who I am and all this. And I was like, yeah, okay. Like it was a heartbreak, but it was also like true. And I was like, yeah, that's it. Sometimes you gotta let it go, man. Yeah, that's it, innit? You know? and so that was that so you from what I know you're just doing a company in the Gem Bay yeah so have we picked up a few little things oh I'm sorry man like so we have to go back to New Zealand when we started the sound journeys and that and that's when I picked up the didgeridoo again my mind's a G when you and the Northern Poet and a few other people like the Vegan Queen and you were like doing that bit where it was like a tribal mate yeah there's power on it yeah I gotta get that yeah so you got the didgeridoo how was the didgeridoo because i love the didgeridoo it's power that done correctly yes exactly um yeah and because we were doing the sound journeys that's how it kind of started me using it oh it's more like yoga and sound so there would be in positions and then i'd play the didgeridoo on them while the i don't know I was telling you about Ruben. Ruben, he won't be doing yoga, but he'll be doing the sound activity. But he'll put that right up to you whilst you're doing the tone. Yeah. So you're like... You know what I mean? Nice. Shit. That's it, innit? And then, yeah, I started seeing how the sound affects people there and, like, how people release stuff through the vibrations and how it makes... the body move and yeah, just started really observing and being like, huh, right, there's more to this then. Can you expand on that just for the people then? Because you aren't just doing tunes. Yeah. You're not just rapping. There's a depth to it. Help us understand why you're doing what you're doing. I feel like at that time it was more like, let's see what happens, to be honest. But it felt right, like I'm on the right path. But it was like, yeah, let's see, like the hand panel work at the beginning, then we'll do the didgeridoo and, you know, that'll flow nice. So it was a very naive way of going into it in a way and not understanding the power of it. And then I think at one point it clicked at a festival. We were doing like a group session and there was this one girl that just started like... convulsing you know from the didgeridoo and then she's going like that and full on crying and then we're like looking at each other like whoa this hasn't happened before this is new and then that's when it kind of clicked that this is deeper than what you think it is you know and you've got to respect it and respect everything around it and yeah and then it kind of went on from there and then we kind of i went back to england and then she went back to ibiza and then i just carried it on here you know and started connecting with other yoga teachers or doing my own sound journeys and then going on retreats people asking me and slowly building that and then because from what i understand you are sat vibration You are what? You literally are vibrating. You are energy vibrating at a certain frequency. The sound is a corresponding way of that frequency expressing itself. That's why if you use sound, you can change the literal composition of your own DNA just through the frequency. I feel that. And each frequency... It's just manifesting in the body as an emotion or a sensation or whatever, but that can be changed. Almost unlocked, you can have certain blocks that are removed because it was just frequency beat, or in another frequency, does that make sense? And yeah, by the end, you have obviously learned what tones have certain effects on people. Yeah, in a way, but also in a way I... I go off intuition a lot, you know, and I trust in that more than what I think is right. Yeah, more than what I think. What you know is right rather than what you think is right. Yeah, because at the end of the day, I know things can change. And even when I try and plan, every time I try and plan a song journey, it's like it ends up different. So it's like, right.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:The lesson there is just know that you can do anything at any time, but... listen to the guidance basically and i suppose the practice gives you muscle memory yes and the structure gives you some sort of framework to bounce off yes in this place yes i know this crowd aren't a heavy metal crowd or whatever yeah they're gonna prefer this vibe but generally it's just intuitive flow state yes right but certain tones like you'll have a tone on the dids like a like a it makes like a very powerful and that's like push that pushes it sound more powerful when you've got a It's not like a wet fart. Yeah, so, you know. And then there's the, like, the noises, like the whoop, that also is different, creates different vibes. Yeah, so, yeah. Like you say, observing them. Because that's one of your, like, you have, like, a certain technique where you're like, gee. Something like that, right? I guess so. It's a certain technique. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then... Yeah, I mean, since then, there's been all sorts with the sounds. Like, I've had mad experiences with it. Like what? I mean, I've had people, like, one time... I've done like overnight sound journeys, like 12 hours non-stop. Just you? Just me, but also I've done them with my sister and my mum. And so this one was with my mum and sister down in Milton Keynes and there were about 30 people there. Did you get your sister into it or did she? Yeah, pretty much. But she also played music before me, but more just music. Yeah, in a way, but also, yeah. More conventional. Yeah, exactly. Is she still doing that or has she gone into it? Well, no, she's doing her own music. More alternative, more her unique expression. exactly yeah yeah so um what was we talking about then that's my bad sorry we're talking about the fact that you you and your mom and your sister they're doing like 12 hour yeah yeah so one of the things that has happened in these sound journeys is one woman she couldn't get pregnant for like a long time like 10 years and she'd been to doctors and like Private doctors spend like£30,000, all this stuff. And I was like, oh. And anyway, I didn't even know this, but did the sound, did everything. Didgeridoo, blah, blah, 12 hours finished. And then the next time she come, she's like, I swear you've got me pregnant. And I was like... It's like a few months after. I didn't even remember. I was like, nah. And her partner's there, you know. You're like, actually, nah, I don't know this girl. I don't know this girl. And I was like, what? And she's like, honestly, I've tried this, this, this. But when the didgeridoo was on the room, she says that was a moment. That reminds me of the DMT sounds. The Ayahuasca sound. That sort of vibe. It's like this. It's like this consistent gloopiness. Does that make sense? It can really get into the depth of what you are. I think that's why it resonates so much with the didgeridoo. I used to just think it was a funny sound. Now it's like, no, I get it. It's hard to play. I thought it was as simple as just blow it. A lot of people do. But nah, it's like... It's a full workout, man. It takes skill, man. It does take skill. And the hand palm When did that turn up? That also turned up in New Zealand. I bought one there. And then we were doing the sound journeys with that. Yeah, but it was a very cheap Chinese one at the beginning. You've got to start somewhere. You've got to start with your Nissan Micra. Yeah, work your way up. So the sound journeys, people can book you for that, can they? When I have them on, yeah. Do you ever do a private one if someone rang you and said that? Yeah, I do private ones. I've done private ones in the past, yeah. But recently... The music's kind of like the performance kind of taken more spotlight in my life. So kind of just be focusing on that. Would you come up to Manchester? I would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Transmute Studio is the one in Northern Court, the one who sponsors this. He'd love a bit of that. Oh, yeah, nice. So we'll talk about that. That'll be cool, yeah. Stay tuned, guys. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so then that kind of started in New Zealand. A lot of stuff started there and then come here and then I've really been able to, last few years, put... my own expression around it and that's when I first started singing was in New Zealand with a handpan unlocked the voice the vocals and we can find your music where you can find my music on Spotify under Arachai you can find my CD on my website arachai.co.uk I'm on Apple all the platforms and all that you can find us on Instagram Facebook so yeah where can I find you where would you have it on Bandcamp or would you have Bandcamp I do have it on Bandcamp too I've got it on Bandcamp. Just for those DJs who are listening. Yeah. I'm going to get it on the flash drive. I've also got it on Audios, which is a cryptocurrency one. Oh, okay. It's all like community. blah blah blah I've got a mate who's into crypto yeah so you might know that one maybe I don't really get it still he tells me like the market is bad now and I go okay okay bro yeah don't do anything right now I'm like I wasn't yeah when I've got when everything blows up properly I'll get him to be my crypto advisor do you feel there's anything about your story that you haven't quite expressed that you think is quite important. Yeah, there is actually. I feel we missed some when I was younger and that was being sexually abused. Right. And I forgot to mention that, not just from the conversation, but when I was about seven, eight years old in England, yeah, being sexually abused by some man, just playing out, you know, and then You know, it wasn't like intercourse, like intercourse, or however you want to fucking call it. Yeah, yeah. It was more like touching and stuff like that. So, but yeah, that had a big effect on me life and how I kept that in for like so long, you know, like 18, 19 years. And then it was like, when I told my mum first time, it was like a big release, you know, so yeah. Yeah, I feel it's important to say that for other people, you know, not that, you know, it's not a bragging thing for me. It's not like, I don't think anyone thought you were bragging. I pulled. I don't think they thought it was that. But I feel just to say that for others to know that, you know. Because how did that, you said it played out in your life. How did it play out in your life? It played out in sexual relationships, I would say, with people. Okay. In relationships. in myself maybe not like understanding everything fully or being able to give my full self to the thing because part of me wasn't there you know already wasn't there you know something or i wasn't fully being transparent with myself or you know stuff like that yeah but when owning the stuff that happened yeah so you weren't owning who you were and therefore yeah How's it going, man? I love you. If you're not loving that part. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, that was about that. And then I feel after that, being able to talk about it to other men, that was really powerful, you know, and seeing how many other people have been through it, you know, it was crazy. At least like, oh, I mean, somebody touched me or someone gave me a kiss that he shouldn't have and it doesn't always have to be the full-blown like you said penetration but still that's gonna mess with your head isn't it at least your intimacy with men yeah yeah i don't know about i mean that's what i'm assuming anyway yeah it can definitely yeah definitely affected that yeah how so trusting i think yeah trusting and yeah I was more trusted women I think yeah still doing away but I promise I will not I'm not going to do anything to you yeah I mean it is important that people talk about it because these things if they're left in the shadows they start to come out I almost imagine it as this like passive way of it being expressed like because it wants to be known and if we're not allowing it to come out in that way it'll start playing out in sort of just unconscious behaviour patterns, like you're saying, in relationships with other people. So, I mean, if anyone has had anything happen to themselves, what would you advise? I'd say it's going to be all right, you know. It's not the end of the world and that doesn't make you who you are. That doesn't define you, you know. The things that have happened to you don't make you who you are and you can change your story at any time. And speaking is one of the most healing things you can do. Right. Yeah. To just let a brother know, a sister know, a mother know, a father know. Or even spirit first. At least somebody. To say it out loud, yeah. And what do you mean by spirit? Because obviously I want people to know exactly what you're meaning when you're saying stuff. What is? Because you've got a song called Great Spirit. For me, it's just the essence of life. God, Jah, you know, all the things that come under that. It's just the encapsulation of life. Yeah, so it's like, oh, great life, you know. Okay. Yeah. And is there... like any way of people finding you that we haven't mentioned you said you've mentioned the website what was that again that was arachai.co.uk and then the music's just arachai on spotify apple band cam wherever you want any other way of finding you on instagram instagram arachai harang and facebook also arachai harang we'll put all the links all the stuff youtube as well arachai so yeah we'll put everything in the description he is it's like obviously i've not heard him live and then thought he's shit let's get him on the show he's clearly very good at what he does I didn't even have a chance to speak to you but I knew I wanted to I could feel the sort of like essence of value as well which is quite lovely and I appreciate it so thanks for coming on the show was there any last words you want to just leave people with I think I'll leave them with a song leave them with a song beautiful we'll just cleanse the space one more with the Agua de Florida ether spray there we go no demons your sins are gone cheers brother Mmm, does smell good that. Feels good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, even with this song. So guys, if you're not driving or operating heavy machinery, feel free to close down the eyes. How about we just take a few breaths because that was a lot to digest. So once the eyes are closed and we're happy with position, in through the nose. Release with an audible sigh. Ahhhh. It feels so nice. Let's do it twice. In through the nose, breathe into the tension. Ah. And here's a little last taste of Arachai expressing himself.
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SPEAKER_02:Let your soul
SPEAKER_00:receive
SPEAKER_02:these sounds You are calling yourself back home No need to hide in fear, no You are the one you'll be looking
SPEAKER_00:for
SPEAKER_02:Oh, new friend So spread thank you for having me
SPEAKER_00:thank you very much peace and love everyone how much of a legend is arachai i think he's min and not only is he a very talented musician jewelry maker sound healing expert but also he's just proper nice innit don't you think he's got a lovely vibe to him and that's him ill You know, that's not him at 100%. So I really hope you got some cool little stories that have helped you just realize a few things about yourself. If you want to follow and find out more about what Average High is up to, he's about to be at the festival I'm going to. So there's a Soul Revolution Festival. He's going to be there. So I'm very much looking forward to it. Actually, if you enjoyed this episode, why not check out the one with Antama that we had another conscious musician. He's going to be there at that Soul Revolution Festival. So is Carrie Tree. Do you remember Carrie Tree and Kushner? Some other guests that we've had on, conscious musicians. So if you like that kind of vibe, go check them out from season one. Now for Arachai, I'll put all the links in the description so you can find out what he's up to. Also for Transmute, because I do my floating meditation journeys there. We've got the next one coming up as well, Whispers of the Great Spirit on the 24th of August. So that's just been released. And we've got the Ecstatic Dances. So if you want to come and check out Liberation that I put on, the next one's Insanity. And that's all going to be at Transmute. So go check them out. They've also got West African drumming, loads of other cool stuff as well. And then for myself... I really, really believe in the power of presence. That's what meditation is. It's the divine masculine container for the moment. And then it allows this unconditional love of the divine feminine to touch all those fragmenting parts or inner child parts that just need a bit of love. So if I can show you how to do that more skillfully, the moment's no longer overwhelm us. We no longer get put into this defensive system, using addictions or people or whatever it is. I know I've got destructive behavior patterns. I'm sure everyone's got their version of it. I'd love to help you be more skillful in life just so it doesn't feel like a burden. Enjoy it, less suffering. So the links for myself, courses, classes, the events, one-to-ones, whatever it is, go and check it out and see which one works for you if you feel so inclined. It is really important to help this grow show. That's not, to help this grow show, to help this show grow. Just if you haven't liked it and you're here at the end and you haven't liked my episode that I did with Aaron Chai, what's going on? Why are you being so snide? So please, a little like goes a long way. If you want to see all the next guests that are coming up, I have got some pretty cool ones. Subscribe, you won't miss any. And then if you want to share it with somebody else, well, you know, sharing is caring. Anything that might have helped, you might help them. Even if it's just enjoying our child's lovely presence. So that would all be really appreciated from me. Apart from that, the next episode, guys. Do you remember Leo Oppenheim from season one? If you haven't seen that, by the way, I think it was episodes 18 and 19. Go check them out because that was one of my favorite episodes. Split it into two. We're not doing that anymore. But yeah, it's a catch up. And it's a very interesting because you remember he was going off to India and And then it's what he's learned. He's met a partner and she's about to have a baby since the last time. So there's a lot of stuff come up for him. And I think you're going to get a real buzz out of this conversation. But go watch 18 and 19 from season one and you'll see why I'm excited to share another episode with Leo Oppenheim. Apart from that, I'm off to festivals. Going to go festival hop for a little bit. Soul Revolution and then Love Jam and we'll see what cool guests I can get for you along the way. Otherwise, guys, you take it easy. Rest well. Follow your purpose. And remember, everything that you do can come from a balanced state if you're just presence. Be presence. Everything else will get processed. And then you can enjoy things a bit more. Peace and love.
