ClearTech Loop: In the Know, On the Move
ClearTech Loop is a fast, focused podcast delivering sharp, soundbite-ready insights on what’s next in cybersecurity, cloud, and AI. Hosted by Jo Peterson, Chief Analyst at ClearTech Research, each 10-minute episode explores today’s most pressing tech and risk issues through a business-focused lens.
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ClearTech Loop: In the Know, On the Move
The CISO’s Financial Reality Check: Building Security That Pays for Itself
In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with Bil Harmer, Founder & CEO of Killswitch Advisory, to explore a topic every security leader wrestles with — how to make cybersecurity pay for itself.
Harmer brings more than two decades of experience leading programs for startups, governments, and global financial institutions. He’s blunt, practical, and focused on one truth: cybersecurity isn’t a cost center — it’s a financial model.
Jo and Bil break down what that means for CISOs under pressure to do more with less:
- Why security is a cost of survival, not safety
- How to redefine cyber risk as financial risk
- Why governance now starts with procurement
- What “acceptable loss” really looks like in practice
- How to spot hidden AI clauses in your SaaS contracts before your data trains someone else’s model
This episode cuts past the theory and gets into the business side of cybersecurity — where financial fluency is now just as important as technical skill.
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