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Will and Stephanie delve deep into the heart of resilience, sharing personal stories of confronting and overcoming the fear of failure. From grueling physical challenges to the trials of entrepreneurship, they explore how failures shape us, the importance of perseverance, and the art of turning setbacks into valuable life lessons. Join this raw and revealing journey into embracing failure as a stepping stone to success.
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And maybe what life is all about is just a series of tests of yourself to see what you're capable of doing. And maybe the vast majority of those tests you don't necessarily succeed in in that moment, but that's not what it's about. Good morning.
Stephanie Slater:Good morning, everyone.
Will Slater:Welcome to Episode 13. Of b&b corner.
Stephanie Slater:I know you're thinking, Are we the b&b corner or the b&b podcast? There
Will Slater:might even be the b&b show.
Stephanie Slater:No, because I anyway, whatever.
Will Slater:I don't know. Yeah, cuz
Stephanie Slater:we just had a baby. But then someone said, the b&b corner and I was like, are we called? Or are we just the became a podcast? Probably should know that.
Will Slater:I think we were originally the b&b owner. But we might be the b&b podcast or the b&b show, or just the baby trying to figure out what to do with the b&b podcast whether it should be called the Bambi show or Escalade pod.
Stephanie Slater:That sounds awful. No, it's identity. We're trying to work out its identity. With ASCII the brand Yes, but it's a Monday morning that we're coming to you. Because Friday was interrupted by Will you have an interruption
Will Slater:to regular programming?
Stephanie Slater:Yeah,
Will Slater:yes. Love to say I'm fired up but
Stephanie Slater:he's not
Will Slater:dragging myself along.
Stephanie Slater:Literally.
Will Slater:Crutches at all. I hurt my foot.
Stephanie Slater:Alright, Arabella.
Will Slater:Now I had a run on Friday. And
Stephanie Slater:I've been talking about though, how about we haven't we mentioned that you were doing I think so. It'd be ultra marathon. Up in I think down in up in up in Mount because the Oscar
Will Slater:night kasi Oscar one? Will 00
Stephanie Slater:Listen, it was 106 kilometers 808 kilometers up a mountain down a mountain around a mountain through I mean, I wasn't there. So I'm talking like, this is based on videos and stuff. You've told me. I'm going to be carrying this podcast I think as in today's episode, because we'll be sharing a little bit. So my 60% my god to look at
Will Slater:me for a couple of weeks. Yes, we had the Kazi 100 was the run that we did my brother and I says about 108 kilometers through the snowy mountains up Matt because he Osco and around a few others. And it was pretty incredible actually, like it was yeah, it was phenomenal getting to the top of Kasi Osco. And up there, you're running through snow and it was like a gale storm wind and then one minute it was 35 degrees and super hot. And then the next minute it was bucketing with rain. And then it was 35 degrees and super hot. That's where I got some heatstroke. And then it was a storm with fog, lightning and thunder. And it was it was everything was pretty wild.
Stephanie Slater:So this summer was at the start. Yep. J so was that the hardest part or no?
Will Slater:The hardest part was probably the
Stephanie Slater:hardest part was at the end because you most likely fractured your foot. Maybe and you ran through how many case without telling anyone.
Will Slater:Now a couple.
Stephanie Slater:Was it like a 50 cake? No, I'm making that up was another big stretch that Ned didn't even know Ned
Will Slater:started going really sorry about the 40 50k mark. And you ran to 90 ended up withdrawing at 9091 on my watch
Stephanie Slater:about 96 Because you're 18k shy of the 190.
Will Slater:Yeah, I got to the checkpoint I had been for probably two or three hours feeling quite dizzy and lightheaded. And luckily I had my brother noodles with me. So if you're listening noodles, big shout out to you for dragging me along. Yeah, for a couple of hours was feeling quite, quite unwell. And he managed to keep pulling me along. And then so you
Stephanie Slater:had a bit of a pain in your foot. But you were trying to ignore it. I guess you had the adrenaline and the adrenaline
Will Slater:was helping you. And then we got to a checkpoint. And so the 90k Checkpoint. Yeah. And I just had to sit down because I was we were trying not to sit down at checkpoints because then it's time to get going. But then I sat down and was feeling quite dizzy and lightheaded. And yeah, almost felt like I was gonna pass out and one of the first aid people come over luckily I had mum and dad and my sister there as well. And they were trying to hit me up right and get food into me. I don't think I'd eaten enough. I think I had heatstroke and hadn't eaten enough because I was finding it really hard to get food in my stomach was just a bit of pain. And
Stephanie Slater:he said that your she said that your face literally went gray and your lips were like yellow. She said you were not. She said at that point. She was like you're dumb. There's no way.
Will Slater:Yeah, I felt pretty unwell we had a decade ago. So I was thinking I'd surely just walk. Walk the rest of it. I think we'd been going for about 13 hours. And I think the cutoff was 26, or something. So I thought you could
Stephanie Slater:still surely to do a 10k on my Lord.
Will Slater:But then, after I'd stopped, and then I tried to stand up again, because I think the adrenaline had gone down a bit, my foot was, it was pretty difficult to walk. Yeah, it's pretty difficult to stand up. So, anyway, this show is not about the run, per se. But I think it is an interesting point about failure and resilience. And I was certainly sitting in there, like it was seven or eight o'clock at night, it was bucketing with rain, it was a mad storm, I was feeling probably the worst I've ever felt physically. And all I could think about was what a useless failure I was. And, obviously, everyone, I think, I think I mentioned something like that to dad, and he got pretty upset that I was, you know, consider myself a failure. And I think I said something like, Oh, it's just another failure. Oh, and, obviously, he was a bit upset by that. But that's how I was feeling in the moment was like, you know, you've, you've come all this way, you've done all this training, you've made all this sacrifice, like the amount of things that we've sacrificed over the last six months to enable me to train for this thing and the time away from family and you know, the few days away time away from the business to go up there. And you get to that point, and you and you're feeling like I couldn't make it was just a sense of complete and utter failure. Like, you're not, you're not good enough to get there, you're not capable enough to get there, you should be better, you should be stronger, you should be able to do it. And I mean, every part of my body had been screaming at me for probably six hours by that point to stop. And, you know, just push through. And then I just sort of, I don't know, started to think about it a little bit differently, and started to realize that, you know, maybe in this situation, and maybe what life is all about is just a series of tests of yourself to see what you're capable of doing. And maybe the vast majority of those tests, you don't necessarily succeed in in that moment. But that's not, that's not necessarily what it's about. Maybe that run for me wasn't necessarily about getting to the finish line. It was a way of testing myself and putting myself in unfamiliar territory and seeing what my body was capable of doing. And it wasn't quite capable of getting there. But but maybe it's only a failure if I don't, if I stop, and I don't go back and try and do it again. Or, you know, if I give up. I certainly felt like a failure in the moment. But I think having reflected on it now for a few days, it's about yet taking the lessons and trying again, and it would have been easy to have never tried, of course, and have you know, I mean, it's bloody scary thinking about it in the lead up. I was thinking this is I didn't necessarily think it was possible. And then to get out there and get almost there. But now it kind of feels like it's possible. Yeah. And so, you know, maybe by doing something that was scary and was felt unachievable? Maybe that was where the value a
Stephanie Slater:good monologue. But truly, Oh, yeah. That's probably the nicest I've ever heard you speak about yourself.
Will Slater:Because I you guys to get to that point. It definitely wasn't nice in the moment. No. Yeah, I was totally beating myself up in the moment. Well,
Stephanie Slater:I feel like I know you very well. And when because obviously, washing said obviously, but I didn't go with the children because I felt like it was going to be quite a difficult thing to watch. It would have been Yeah, meander. Like
Will Slater:there were some people that was young kids, but didn't look like fun. I just
Stephanie Slater:think also that's really unfair to the children. Why should they be exposed to like insane elements for 13 and a half hours like it's crazy. I
Will Slater:kind of I think it's, I think in that situation, but I do think exposing them to things like that is really good for them. Yeah. When
Stephanie Slater:they're older, not two and three and a half friggin scream and dealing with it not you while you go car and I as
Will Slater:an eight year old, who that's different. It's
Stephanie Slater:completely different age. Anyway, but so we didn't go and then on the Saturday night, like I was your mom was keeping giving me updates and your sister was giving me updates and was trying not to be annoying, but they looking looks like because it was just huge, as you said the amount of sacrifices that we've made. Yeah, the impact that it's had on our own little family and how much we've Both given up. So I felt very invested obviously and wanted you to achieve and whatever. And then at like eight o'clock, you called me. And I said, Oh my gosh, are you done? And I thought, well, you've done it in 30. Like, I was really proud of you that was, you know, and then you're like, No, I'm not going to finish. And I was like, stop. Now you're talking nonsense, like, you know, and you know, I'm not gonna finish and my heart, I actually I knew, whenever I told you, I was crying, I like couldn't stop crying. Even after I got a phone with you. Every time I talked about it. I just even now I feel emotional. Because I just think it's hard. It's just been a very big milestone that you've been working towards. And it has, what has come with that is a lot of as we've said, sacrifice and not to make it about me, but a little bit, you know, I've had to do a lot of this, I've had to take on the load of the household and the kids a lot for you to be able to do this. But also, I knew what it meant to you. And I know what it would have meant not finishing it. And I said to my mum was a kid, but he's done 90, I thought wasn't only 691. Okay, so mums, like he's done 90 Why? Who the hell runs for 91? That's amazing. And, and I was like, I know that I know all this, but I know exactly what he'd be thinking. I know exactly what he had, how he'd be talking to himself. And there was a line out can't remember it. But mum when you came home yesterday, and mum said something to you and you answered and the way you answered was exactly word for word. What I said you would say, and mum looked at me and I was like, What did I tell you? And it was that? She said you should be proud? Yeah. Oh, no. You said something. Like
Will Slater:I said, I'll be proud when I do it. She said,
Stephanie Slater:But you did it like you know your body. That's right. She was like that your body could have done it, it just and you're like, well, it didn't. And I didn't finish. And I said to Mom, that's exactly what he'll say to you. And then you said it. And she looked at me like oh my god, like you're in this man's head. Because I know you're so all or nothing in so many areas of life. And you just have the most awful negative self talk a lot of the time, which drives you, but it's pretty ruthless. So I'm really proud that you're now looking at it in a different way. And you actually said You're so what's after millennial Gen Z. i We joked about that whole deal for the plot. Because that's like what they say, you know, spill the tea, plot all the little lingo, but I love do it for the plot that's like one that I resonate with, because it's that whole thing of make your story your life, make your story interesting, do things that create, you know, challenges and stories to tell and all that kind of like, as you said, failure, but it's only failure if you stop. Same with the business. We've talked about that this business will only fail if we quit, you know. So yeah, you'll live in. Yeah, lucky me means you'll just train again, to do another round. But the point is, it's just you have to just keep doing things. And you're I mean, imagine if every time you did something, and it didn't work out the first time, you're like, Oh, that's it. I'm shit. I'm worthless. Can't do it, man. Like you'd never, you'd never start a business. You'd never push, you'd never push any back. You'd never grow, you actually would never grow. You'd be you would be the same version of yourself that you were 10 years ago, 20 years ago, if you'd never pushed yourself and challenge yourself and said, Yeah, I've reached that point. And now I want to reach the next point. And I'll fall over and I fall over and awful over and as long as I get back up. I'll be good.
Will Slater:Yeah, I don't think it should be understated how much of a sacrifice you've made. So I'm very grateful for that. Stephanie. Thank you understand that and I didn't want to skip over that. That should be that's worth mentioning. But I do think in the, in the context of doing something like that I like someone I love is Jesse Itzler who's married to Sara Blakely. Oh, who did Spanx. And he has, he's quite famous for having a massive calendar like he will. He literally has like this life, like a literal massive cow that he carries around with him everywhere carries around with him. Three meters wide by two meters high. It's the same phone. He doesn't believe in it. Oh, so if you look at if you look at Jesse, Jesse Itzler calendar, it's like a 12 month calendar that he carries with him everywhere. There's massive, massive thing. But he has this idea that you do, like do one crazy thing every year. Yeah. About You know, I can't remember exactly what he talks about it but he talks about having like a, like creating your life story to do if you try and do one crazy thing every year. You know, by the time you're 50 you'll have a pretty incredible story to tell of all these things that you've done. And I was even thinking about that when I was sitting there and coming to the realization that I probably wouldn't be able to keep going and thinking this was the one thing this year that you know, yeah, man and mostly I mean we're doing the business women are mostly sort of physical challenges. That you know, my one thing for the year I failed at but but I think I'm a I think I'm a fob for a number of reasons, but I think I'm afraid are a better person specifically for having done this run and this training that I was prior to doing, because of the lessons I've learned through, you know, pushing myself and challenging myself and getting up there and, you know, doing as much as I did without getting the whole thing done. But yeah, it's not necessarily about achieving the specific thing, but the journey to get there. And I think that's true of everything in life. You know, you listen to successful people, and they say, you know, it's not necessarily about the big reward at the end. It's, it's about the journey, and it's hard to really comprehend or understand that until you do something really difficult and realize for you, the journey was a big part of it.
Stephanie Slater:Yeah. Well, isn't that a saying? Like, it's not the destination? It's the journey. Yeah. Which is a
Will Slater:cliche thing to say, but I think having yeah, I've certainly felt that. But yeah, I think it's, yeah, that's only failure if you stop. And I think that's, that's probably the lesson I've taken from this is that there's been there's been a lot of things in my life that haven't worked out the way I would have liked them to have, both in business and physical challenges. And yeah, if you stop your die maybe I think it's good,
Stephanie Slater:though. Like for the kids to see this as well. For sure. Yeah. They were so proud of you. And it was really sweet because your mom had sent a few videos and they just wanted to see pa running. Like whisper Pa was Papa. And there was one video where you were it was like a narrow track. So you were in front of Ned. And Sebastian is like Buzz winning uncle noodles is losing and I did not have the heart to tell him. That was the next morning that you didn't finish. But then when you because it's Sebastian missed you. So I'm probably going on a tangent here. But Sebastian missed you so much like he he was a bit cheeky. He was quite challenging. Like it was five days that you're gone for. And I would say that from Friday night. I mean, he also did three days of childcare, which was no that awful after childcare. But probably the Friday night was when he he was saying good night. And then as he walked out, as I walked out, sorry. He said Mom, mom, and he called him back and he did the Shaka sign to me and that's your thing. You do that with him. And I've never done that with him with as if I'm going to throw a shock as he should. Anyway, and then I just thought all he's missing Papa. Like that's definitely and then after that, the Saturday he said to me, where's pa pa? Why isn't like it's been a long time. Why isn't why simple PA Home now he couldn't understand because obviously when you go for a run, he's used to it being even say a day, you know, and I think they're quite used to two nights. I think they can do two nights away. But then, you know, four or five nights, what was it five minutes or four night? Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, four nights, four nights, five days? Is a long time for them. And yeah, I think Sebastian was really really missing it anyway. So they were just both really proud of you, though. They were saying you know, our pals going around, proposed running. And then when he saw the video, and you were drenched, it was after I think you'd been caught in one of the storms. You would net were drenched. And he said, Oh my gosh, Papa's gonna be so tired. He'll have to have a big sleep that was just adorable. And then yeah, when you came home, he didn't want to let you go. Like he just held on to you and how do you and I just think he was yearning for that time with you. But back to the point of you know what it shows them and teaches them you know, you went out and you had this goal and you try to achieve it and you got 90% there and unfortunately couldn't finish it. But that's okay. Because as you said, it's how we get back up and you know, try again and that's what we foster in them. We always say that's okay, just try again. Okay, how could you do it differently? Okay, what could you do this time around that you didn't do the last time like always when we talk to them that's how we speak that's our language. That's what we try and nurturing them so yeah, I think it's brilliant for them and I even see in their language now. Even though I sometimes I'll see Sebastian talk to Arabella I mean Arabella just mimics whatever you say. So you could say anything she'll copier But Sebastian will say to Arabella that's okay Arabella or I'll help you do this or put your foot up here like to help her get up or whatever it might be. So, and they both say I was really proud because the other morning, Arabella said, Arabella, I'll go for a run like mummy and I was like, yes. Carmela said that. And then because we've got which we actually probably need to still share on our Instagram because we haven't done that. But we've done our manifesting board but our board is our mirror in our bathroom. So it's, you know, this huge double double vanity mirror. I will share that tonight. Yeah, and we've we've got I haven't actually put up my new ones though. Because typical Sorry, just again, I know we go off on tangents, but whatever. It's organic, and we'll just go with it. But typical me just in who I am and whatever will like printed out his photos and he made them you know, pretty much. Well, what's happening? Yeah, pretty much most rifle. So you know, beautiful big and you see it like it's in your face, but i love it i and you're drawn, the kids are drawn to it the amount of times Will's got this photo of what's the turtles represent? That sounds really random. Like you want a pet turtle?
Will Slater:Yeah, I want a pet turtle. That's my goal. In turtles, it's a photo from Kona in Hawaii, where they held the well, they've changed it now. But they used to hold the Ironman World Championships every year. Right? And that's what I want to do. Okay,
Stephanie Slater:so anyway, it's such a beautiful photo, and the kids are drawn to it. And then there's this holiday one. And they, you know, they always say that's where we're gonna go on holiday yours, because they're big. You can't help but be great, you know, be gravitated towards it. And then Mars
Will Slater:is really strong, like, you know, strong dude, who's really fit there who's kind of like, yeah, it's a bit aesthetic. But that's kind of a goal. And it's awesome. Because professional, I say, oh, that's you, Papa. Bless.
Stephanie Slater:They just say the best. But then my side, I like such a such an idiot. But I'd like put them I was trying
Will Slater:to forget postage stamps.
Stephanie Slater:I was trying to be really practical. And I was like, I'll try and get as many as I can on one page. And so I put like four images on one page. And, and then when we're putting them up, I'm squinting to see my board. I'm like, Well, what? What was that image? Again? I think that's got a woman talking to a crowd. And so we actually went and printed them again. Did you do them? So cool. Because again, it's I think, Wow. I feel like it's a little bit of a reflection of mums slash who I am, which is, be small, everyone around, you can be big. And just what's practical, and I don't need to take up that much space. And I'll just, I can still see it. And all these kinds. I'm not I'm not trying to victimize myself. But I think that's just my personality. I think if I'm like, truly, you know, speaking, Frank, that's yeah. And I think it was just this tangible reflection of how I see myself and my goals and that kind of thing. So I thought I had them there. And I thought, I've stuck them all out. Now I'm not gonna and then I was like, No, I need to be gravitated towards my images. And my goal is because even as you're talking about the one scary thing that you do every year, and you know what you get for the plot, what are you doing for your plot? Like, what am I doing for my plot? My plot is just I'm a mom, I'm a friggin mom, like, I'll make a new broccoli pasta force.
Will Slater:I always push you to think of something. Yeah,
Stephanie Slater:I know. I think, well, I am. I'm doing my I'm trying to do my 5k which will then lead into my 10k. Yep, I need to well, you know, someone decided to come home with friggin broken foot.
Will Slater:So that's doing that with you? Well, you probably know
Stephanie Slater:and you also it also means I can't leave early in the morning because there's no way you can get this is to say for two weeks, it's probably going to be two weeks where you're going to be rather useless.
Will Slater:Well, I could Arabella out of bed this morning. You
Stephanie Slater:got Arabella up? Yes. And then you got to change and then you put up like, I don't think you're gonna be able to do both kids and get them down and up and around. Take a bit longer. Anyway, I think it's just going to be a bit tricky for the next few weeks. I'm just gonna have to fit my runs in at some point. But so that's, uh, yeah, I guess they're my goals that I'm trying to do Smash. But
Will Slater:it's just so true of, of life and what we all experience so who, who succeeds in everything they try? And if there is someone who succeeds in everything they try, who fucking wants to be mentored them? Like, you don't want to be friends with Tulsa, who is good at everything.
Stephanie Slater:Do you think anyone though? Like, I think that would lead for very boring life. If everything you set out to do you just did. And it was that easy. How to have again, I feel like you wouldn't grow. Everything's just on paper. What about Elon Musk? Didn't you say that something fully failed? And then? Probably not. Yeah. And then he ends up couchsurfing on his mate at different people's houses. And so I don't really believe that anyone. I mean, Michael Jordan, his famous quote, you know, he missed the show.
Will Slater:Didn't even get picked for his high school basketball team. But yes, everyone probably has. Exactly. And I think, but I think a lot of people don't try things because they think they won't be able to do it. Totally fear
Stephanie Slater:of failure, though. Yeah. You're comfortable with failure, though. People aren't comfortable with saying, Yeah, didn't didn't work out. But that's okay. I'll just get on and do it. Again. I think it almost comes back to that other story we'll talk about on our one of our recent podcast around you know, in America, failure is seen as such a positive thing in the entrepreneur world. Whereas here, we cut people down really quick. We think failure means failure. That's it like it's done. So I just think it's also a cultural thing as well. And then we have tall poppy syndrome and we were not comfortable with that I think I was listening to actually is their last name Wilson. Sarah Wilson. I don't know if you know who she is. But she had the book I quit sugar and that's what kind of made her famous And then she became like, a broadcaster and a journalist or as you might even have a journalism background. But she was interviewed actually on the project. And she talked about how, which I find very interesting, I think you would agree with, but she said she had to leave Australia, because she found, particularly as a middle aged woman, any kind of, I'll say controversial opinion. And when I say controversial, what when she says, She's meaning that that doesn't align with the norm of how people think and feel in Australia, and she was just being terrorized by people being shut down, called out all this kind thing, because she was, she was bringing up things that people just want to put their head in the sand about. And she has, she's actually moved to France in Paris. And she said, it's so much easier. First of all, she's respected as a middle aged woman. Secondly, it's so much easier to have a different point of view over there because they're comfortable with talking about things that they don't all agree with. Because that's, again, how you learn and grow and change and your eyes open to the world that's in front of it. You're not just going oh, it's this way. And she said that Aziz have this larrikin attitude. We're so easygoing was so chilled, nothing fazes us. Oh, and if you counter that, and you say, Well, I am fazed by this. And I don't like this. And I'm not just as easygoing, because we need to do something about it, whether it's climate change, whether it's what's going on in the, you know, Palestine, and Gaza, and that kind of thing. She said, that's almost seen as an Ozzy, and people aren't comfortable with that. And that was just her story. But I think that that's really true. I actually resonated with that I thought, you know, you talk about especially feeling uncomfortable with sharing things that aren't necessarily, then yeah, the norm of thinking. And the only way to learn though is through talking is through dialogue. So,
Will Slater:yeah, yeah, it's hard to have a dialogue when everyone's so quick to be offended. Yeah. And polarized in their views. And so quick to disagree with people based on their political views, or they take
Stephanie Slater:it so personally, but actually, my girlfriend, she shared this thing on Instagram, which I love. And I have seen it before, but it said, I can't remember the full thing. But you know, it said, Talk to someone who isn't your age, you know, have a coffee with someone from another country, work with someone who, and it was all these just different backgrounds, because that's the way you will evolve. And people gravitate towards other people that look like them speak like them sound like them. But you're not about that. But I actually haven't even shared this with you. But we had the childcare Christmas party yesterday. And there weren't really any of Sebastian's friends there or anything like that, because I just don't think many people came in and it was the whole center. But he's one of his educators was there. And she said to me, oh, you know, Sebastian, like, he's, he's really great, and blah, blah, blah. And she said, he's made friends with this boy, and this other boy said, but he's made friends with this little boy, who's from Korea, and he's only down for a few weeks, and he doesn't speak any English. And she said, and all the other kids kind of find it hard to play with him, because obviously, he doesn't speak English. So that you know, but she said, he and Sebastian have this little, like Silent language they are and Sebastian is she said that they'll literally look at each other and either point or, or do something, then they go off and play and they play with each other. But without actually speaking, they've got this little secret language. And I just love that I thought the innocence of children and they don't care, they don't care. And they, yeah, they just take everyone for who they are as a person, not what you look like what you say, whether you agree with me. Because all of those things, and it is coming back to the failure is because it makes my life easy. So if my life is easy, then I'm comfortable. If my life isn't easy, I'm uncomfortable, and I don't like that. So sitting in discomfort is really hard. Being comfortable, I'll just keep going with that. So that comes back to that fear of failure. Well, I'm not going to do something that I'm uncomfortable with because then I have to sit with that. I have to sit with the feeling of I got to 90k and I didn't make it pass up. That feels awful. But as you said, you sit in that and then you recognize what it taught you. And I think it's really important for kids to be able to do that. Like I think children need to be comfortable with sitting in those emotions of Yeah, I didn't you know, do that but I think it's a real driving motivating force then for the next time. Like this I'm gonna sound like the biggest nerd but I remember in in school you know if I didn't get the grade I wanted that just pushed me to work my ass off to get the grade I knew I could could get say Okay, fine. I mean again, nerd burger, but in year 12 My e 12. English teacher because I English was my thing. I mean, I became an English teacher and psychology teacher but I was always like a straight A student in English. And then so she she said to me also, at the start of the issue, sort of sussing everyone out and you said to one on one, also, you're probably like a b b plus student. And I was like, what? Baby plus?
Will Slater:No way I'm taking a B plus anything No, no.
Stephanie Slater:No, I was like, I'll show you. And it was like, for me, my driving, motivating force. And then at the end of the year, she actually said to me, and I love her for this. And she knew he knew she knew who she could do that, which isn't gonna do that with a kid that has no confidence and whatever. And she said to me, I had to say that too, because if I didn't, you would have just rested on your laurels and not pushed yourself and you've pushed yourself and you end up getting this incredible score. And you did so well. Because you were proving to me There you go, you know that you could do it. So anyway, I think, I
Will Slater:think we just have to model that to our kids and show them that having a crack is what matters. Totally, not necessarily the outcome, because because otherwise, you just, you don't do anything in life that's difficult to do the safe thing, the easy thing, the thing that you know, you'll succeed in and by doing that, what do you really learn? You know, there's, there's nothing to be gained from doing something that you know, you're capable of doing? Yeah.
Stephanie Slater:Because what was it Sarah Blakey, whose dad said, every day? Yeah, what have you failed at? What an incredibly powerful question. I love that. Because that's showing that you're doing things outside of your comfort zone, and that you're trying to grow and evolve. We should start Yeah, we should start asking the kids that when they're at school, every too little to understand right now.
Will Slater:But it's not easy, because you get like it's already started. But I know. For the next few weeks, every time I bump into someone, it's like, oh, you had your own head. You go. It didn't make it. And even, you know, everyone's great about it's like, Oh, I'm so sorry. But you know, you did so well.
Stephanie Slater:pity party, for
Will Slater:out of not making it. There is obviously that moment where not that they're judging you. They're not trying to be rude to you. But it's like, Oh, you didn't get there. That sucks.
Stephanie Slater:I think that's your internal narrative that I don't think anyone goes on. You didn't get there. I think it's almost more. What do you say to that? Because you know how heartbreaking it
Will Slater:will be? How awkward to be the other person that's like, oh, sorry, have a
Stephanie Slater:bit. I'm saying I think the people that know and care about you wanted you to do it. So I think if anything, it's like, shit, that would suck. Like, yeah, probably. So you are so incredible. And everyone thinks, yeah, but you've also
Will Slater:got to just like, I think we're building that resiliency around doing things and you say resiliency, is that wrong?
Stephanie Slater:Just resilience? It's like, I think we should have a word recession.
Will Slater:With there are these little buttons on here. Maybe we'll press one of them. If that doesn't work. Maybe we'll have a little button for every time we introduce a new word to the Oxford Dictionary.
Stephanie Slater:Yeah, you build resiliency, good road
Will Slater:builders, anti resilience, resiliency. build resilience around the public's perception of you doing like Thanksgiving. Yeah, exactly, you know, during the run and not making it. Okay, that builds a bit more resilience than with the business, though. Well, that's right. That was the point I was making is just getting there is that if this business doesn't work, like how long is that going to be? Like, there will be very few things that will be embarrassing is that and like, obviously, neither of us fully believe that that will happen. But clearly, it's a possibility. It's probably far, you know, if you look at it logically, it's far more likely that that's going to happen, given the sheer volume of businesses that don't work out than it is, but
Stephanie Slater:don't put that out to the universe.
Will Slater:I'm just, I'm just saying you've got to, yeah, that could that could prevent us from doing it in the first place. Absolutely.
Stephanie Slater:How many people have said to us, like you guys are a little bit mental, but also, wow, I would I just don't think I would have the courage to do that to give up everything, quit quit stable jobs, you know, well, earning jobs, and hope for the best.
Will Slater:Kids are one of the main reasons that we're doing that, to bring it full circle to what you were saying is we had a conversation early on at the start of this where we said, how can we possibly try and tell our kids to see something and do something about it or see a problem and try and fix it or, you know, try something different or be creative what they believe in or whatever it might be if we're not doing that? Yeah, we have to do it ourselves. And this is our opportunity to do that. So let's do it. And who knows what the outcomes going to be? Yeah, but we have to do it. It's scary. It seems almost impossible to pull off, but you've got to have a crack. Yeah. And yeah, I think that was the same on the weekend with Ron Phelps. seemingly impossible. And as it turned out, it was for me anyway.
Stephanie Slater:Just slightly, slightly impossible. The end It was impossible you wouldn't have ever started. That's true. And lucky we read for I'm not okay. I just I know but but that you ran for 91 You write for 13 hours? Like I yes, no, you didn't finish. Let me just call your bloody softy. But you know, you're 13 hours 91k You're already in the top percent of people who would even try that. So cut yourself some slack. Yeah, you failed, if you want to call it that. But you'll just get back up and try again. When are you planning on doing it again? Please don't say next year? Or is that what you're thinking next year?
Will Slater:I don't think I'll do next year. Yeah, I don't think I'll do the 100. Again. Yeah, here's
Stephanie Slater:enough. What are you thinking of doing William? Yes, you do. I already know. Because you told me share it with the people. I I am like a godsend to you. I honestly don't think you realize how phenomenal
Will Slater:earlier to say thank you. And you were lucky. But it was like,
Stephanie Slater:whatever. You want to do the what is called the Milea.
Will Slater:You're a godsend.
Stephanie Slater:I am. Now genuinely, is it the Milo
Will Slater:that we've been making? I don't know, if I were to go out and do what I tried to do again that that doesn't seem as impossible anymore.
Stephanie Slater:I know. But why don't you 106k Before you go into is it called the Milea. For the millionth time. Yes. Yeah. And what's that? 160 something? Yep.
Will Slater:That seemed impossible. Yeah. So
Stephanie Slater:can you just get through the first impossible before you then
Will Slater:the first thing doesn't feel that impossible anymore. That's the point. It feels somewhat achievable now, so that feels not worth it.
Stephanie Slater:Anyway, story of my life kids.
Will Slater:Anyway, the b&b corner is not a running podcast. So for too long, but I think there were some important lessons learned. And I yeah, having felt like an immense failure in the moment, to reflect on it and feel like it was just another just another chapter. plot point. And I think, I think we should all strive for that we should all strive for having experiences in our life that give us a story to tell. Like what the hell else you gonna do standing around at a barbecue when you're 70 years old? 80 years old, you may as well have a few good stories doesn't matter whether, yeah, they turn out the way that you wanted them to turn out. Well, I
Stephanie Slater:think it's that beautiful poem, which is a bit sad, but also so beautiful, called the dash, which is how it's about how you lived your life between the years of being born, and then the year of passing. You know, it's a beautiful poem, so if you haven't heard it, how did you spend your dash? How did you spend your dash? Yeah,
Will Slater:having a crack 100
Stephanie Slater:Oh, okay. Rado, Rado. Happy man, well know you'll be listening on Tuesday. So Happy Tuesday to you all.
Will Slater:Yes. And I'll see you all next week. Thanks for joining us. Ciao. Ciao.