24 - Kate Save - Founder & CEO Be Fit Food

If it was possible to change your life in 28 days, surely we would all do it? Kate is the Founder & CEO of Be Fit Food, an Accredited Practicing Dietitian and has a new TV series that helps people transform their lives in 28 days!

Expect to learn about Kate’s story and how she juggles being an entrepreneur and a mum, what makes a good GP and why you need to find one, why we have a sick care system instead of a health care system, how to make healthy food choices when you don’t have the time and how seeing the bright side of things helps you overcome adversity.

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Stephanie Slater: 0:00

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Unknown: 0:17

Hello and welcome to the b&b corner. We have another exciting guest episode for you today we are joined by Kate save. Kate is the CEO and founder of bee Fit Foods. A dietitian designed whole food home delivered meal program. She's an accredited practicing dietitian, accredited exercise physiologist and a diabetes educator. Kate has over 20 years in the health and fitness industry and she lectures in the fields of Nutrition and Exercise Science. Kate also has a new television series called 28 days to change my life and is a multiple winner of the Telstra Business Awards. On top of that, she is a mum to two beautiful little girls and has done a pretty good job of domesticating her husband, in today's episode expect to learn about Kate's journey and how she manages to juggle everything. What makes a good GP and why you need to find one, why we have a sick care system instead of a health care system, how to make healthy food choices when you don't have the time, and how to see the bright side of things and why it's key to overcoming adversity. You have a lot going on a Gila, you've got a TV show, you've got a business, which is hugely successful, I think you've got a second business as well that you've got a diversity health business on top of beef eat foods, you've just done a huge fundraising campaign, which we could talk about as well. And your mother to two children, two young girls, beautiful young girls, and married and married her husband. We've got a husband that you've got to deal with as well. How the hell do you juggle it all? Oh, the kids are pretty independent. I know we talked about this a little bit earlier at our coffee, but bringing up kids that really know how to look out for themselves as well. And let's face it, by the time kids are three or four, they can do the basics of spreading their toast or making their cereal and just fostering that throughout your free tasks throughout the home and getting them to help you want to pet you feed the pet. You change the litter and do those things, get them to help as much as you can. And that that helps. And I think maybe I trained the husband? I'm not sure you should take credit for that. He's a very domestic husband actually. So that helps he travels a lot as well. But he is unbelievably hands on. So I think that's a huge, huge help. And yeah, was it a decision? Was it a conscious decision between the two of you for you to go down the entrepreneurship path and knowing what that would mean for the relationship? But it was that was that we were both aware of that? Or did that just happen? It was a definite constant, negative magnetic force not to go down that path. But that was you know, we're individuals at the end of the day and we follow our own dreams and aspirations and neither of us will stop someone else doing something else we can try. But we're both way too

Stephanie Slater: 3:15

high headstrong delegate, all those all those wonderful words? Yes. Well, I do. I feel like we're kind of going deep, real quick. But how do you navigate that when you're both, as you said, headstrong Believe in your own journey, you know, fulfilling your own needs as well like being your own independent person and having your journey and what you want to aspire towards? And knowing that you want to foster that in your girls as well, to be the strong, independent women. That's my little tagline. How do you navigate that in the relationship because I imagined pre kids that looked one way, then kids come along, and it looks another way, I'd love to know because we're in the thick of that. So I think

Unknown: 3:57

my quicker learning here was when I gave birth to the first child. And I think this really set up for what working life was going to be I had my dietician business, and then they had 23 staff I had a gym and all these different health consultancies and 10 medical centers were working out of and so we'd gone to a checkup that morning because I said to my husband, I think I'm gonna have the baby today. He goes no, you're not it's a little bit early and they they told you you know, when you're having the baby I'm like, I think we need a checkup Anyway, go for a checkup and the doctor says to me, Nope, doesn't look like you're having the baby today. And I'm like, Oh, I feel like you need to check a little bit more. He's like, Do you want an internal and I was like, holding their right mind would want that. But I think you need to let me know anyway, goes off. You're six centimeters dilated. I think you'd be having the baby today. And I was like, oh, anyway, I'm like, I've got so much too. I've got to do 23 pays it was payday and I was there was no bookkeeper to do that sort of thing. And anyway, so I'm like, have to go back to work and Christians like why don't we just sit down Have a coffee first and we'll go to work, have a coffee and get up, walk back to the car. I'm in a bit of a rush. And then I just start long thing and he's like, what's wrong? And I'm like, think up with my pants. Oh, and he's like, What? Don't you can't wait your pants in the street and I'm like, I can start to walk again. All these waters will help them like, I've definitely wet my pants. And he's like he should. And I'm like, Ah, I know. It's my waters. My waters are broke. And he's like, what do we get to do? And I was like, Oh, you gotta get me to work. I probably need a fresh set of clothes. Do you have a towel? So we get to towel and whatever else. And so I go into work. And I'm sitting there for four hours typing away trying to get clear my inbox, get everything done in six centimeters dilated with what is broken? Yeah. Then go back home. And my husband's in the lounge rooms like are we gonna go? And I'm like, No, I'm not quite finished yet. I need to get this processed anyway. So he's sitting in the lounge room. He's got the gym. Stickney is doing all these exercises. I think he's just going crazy trying to get his heads to do that. It's not your day, right. And, I mean, they're typing away. And he's like, Oh, is that a contraction? I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, he could hear when I was having contractions. But I was just oblivious to it. Because I was just so focused on getting everything finished and shutting the laptop, that satisfaction of I'm done, and putting the out of office on so I put the out of office on do the office read. Oh, yeah, it actually was pretty hilarious. So the last message or email that went to the staff was your pays will be in your bank account tomorrow. I'm on my way to the hospital finally have the baby because they saw me four hours, five hours before and they're like you go to hospital on that note, and I've got way too much to don't allow. So anyway, and off we go and my contractions in under three minutes apart. So getting reasonably close. And I husband drives the wrong way. I'm like, Are you going and he's like, Oh, to work on. We're not going to work quick, enter the hospital. And I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm hungry. I phone. I don't know how much longer I can hang on. So that was the first introduction wake up the next day. And for the next six months, I was just so overwhelmed with work and baby that I remember when my daughter was six months old, I was breastfeeding in the middle of the night, finding one hand doing my emails, and I looked down. And I literally thought I was going to have a heart attack. I was like, what, what am I holding on my god, I had a baby. And I hadn't actually processed because I hadn't stopped for 10 seconds that I'd had a baby. And then I went off, something needs to change. So I sold the gym side of the business, reduced the team size from 23 back to sort of six or seven or something more manageable and had some breathing space fell pregnant again. And when the second baby was six weeks old, I started beefing. So six weeks, six week folds. So

Stephanie Slater: 7:51

can we say you learned your lesson?

Unknown: 7:54

I learned how to manage things and to know when to tap out when it's, you know too much. But yeah, at six weeks, I remember the very first meeting I had with my co founder. I don't think he really understood what a new baby, you know, newborn baby needs. And it was supposed to be a one hour meeting at his house five hours later, it's 11 o'clock at night. I've got all these missed calls and messages from my husband, uh, you What are you doing with that show up? Well, where are you and the baby with you? Yeah, the baby is eight. And because of baby newborn, it's feeding flat out yet. And I'm like, Ah, gonna have to put some boundaries around the length of these meetings like that was just intense. So that's all I've really known with kids. And that was some, yeah, just just happen on a story that is unbelievable, that you pulled that off. And that you're still upright. You must have some unbelievable ability to manage stress and chaos that most other people don't have. But that's a it's a high level of functioning, very high functioning whilst dealing with all of the chaos around you. The crazy in there, though, I must do. So when I woke up in the maternity ward. I was like, great. I stood out, looked out the door and I'm like, Oh, my office is two doors down because we had the contract for that hospital that I was in a hallway. So then I started having meetings from day one with the second child with the new business and I was like, oh, I need to find the boundaries again. So I didn't check out of the hospital early this time. I had the whole five days in the hospital being fed three times a day sleeping resting during meetings in between, but I definitely took that time to sleep and rest when they take the baby away. Whereas the first time I didn't realize that you don't get that once you leave the hospital. Yeah, so that was a good learning but then I had to have quite major surgery after the second child because when I was 20 I got diagnosed with the bile duct in a ball duct. He raised my bile ducts, and there was emergency surgery and a cause of that having the second child or even the first Child and exercising whilst doing it. I actually had all my stomach muscles were torn, which happens to a lot of people. However, I didn't recognize that they'd never really been put together after the first surgery. So I knew there was something wrong. And I'd gone to the specialist to say there's something wrong with my tummy. I can't work it out. But even if I have a glass of water, you can see it. And it hurts. It physically hurts the skin. And they like roar. Anyway, and they all just said, look, there's nothing we can do until your baby's 12 months old. I got another opinion. And I didn't tell them this time that I'd had a baby. And they said, Oh, we found your stomach muscles around your back. Something's happened. It must be from the surgery and I was like must be from that surgery 10 years ago. Anyway, and they're like all you need surgery to so the stomach muscles back together. They were 10 inches apart literally around my back. And that's why I was in so much pain because my skin was holding all of my organs in like it was so painful. I went to sleep on the table with the the anesthetic and I said to the neath the testers I was counting back from 10. I was like, Can I breastfeed when I wake up? He's like, why? I woke up in the maternity ward the next day, or how many hours later and with my baby next to me in the room where I'd given birth, sickly clearly only. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But they weren't going to do the surgery. So it's a bit cheeky of me, but I knew that something wasn't right. And you just know. Yeah.

Stephanie Slater: 11:28

But on that. Isn't that crazy? So you had two experiences where you had your gut telling you that that something's going on the first being I'm having this baby, you're not you're not you're not. And the second being something more is going on now. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. And you had to advocate for yourself.

Unknown: 11:45

Yeah, either. The first one was the worst really side been sick from 18 months old till I was 19 going in and out of hospital and they couldn't find anything wrong with me. They did testing till I was eight years old. Then they told me my parents it was in my head and I was making it up. My parents weren't she actually liked school should have liked being sick. When she sees she's violently throwing up crying on the floor rolling around pain, don't think she's making it up, but they listen to the doctors. So that's why I got so interested in nutrition and health. So I wanted to know what was making me sick because the doctors were saying what's something she's eating? So then I was like, What is this poisonous thing that I'm eating that's making me sick. And then they're like, oh, it's lactose intolerance. I had to learn about that as a kid or it's the so it's that. So by the time I was 19, going to uni, when I got these attacks once I was on the freeway and had to call an ambulance, take me into hospital, knock me out with Pepperdine, wake up, they send you home and this particular day, I'd been given a referral for another scan. And I was like, Oh yeah, I haven't had a scan in years. And I was Yeah, at uni working my casual job. Then I went to another job at a casino managing a bar finished at 6am in the morning, drove back to Roseburg two hours away, and went to wait for my scan when the clinic opened, had the scan went home to bed at my parents house. Woke up seven hours later, no one was home. They both worked full time. And these seven messages on the answering machine saying we need to speak to Kate, this is an emergency we need to speak to Kate. And for the first time ever. I wanted to be sick I wanted something to be wrong with me because I knew something wasn't right. Anyway, they call me in we need to do emergency surgery being 19. And pretty naive. I said actually, I'm really busy for that. I've got a birthday party that two weeks time and at the time I was doing some swimsuit modeling and I've got I've got a competition you know, I'm in the finals, I have to go to it. And my friends are all going to be there. So did those two things because they're going to hack up my stomach and they did I've got like this huge side to fight scar proud of it now. It's like a whirlwind. Yeah, and they did the surgery, it's a five hour surgery. 10% chance that it wasn't going to go well but 90% chance that it would in lots of other complications posted but that was the first time that I stopped sort of listening to just the first opinion or other people's opinions. I think you know yourself when there's something wrong and you need to advocate for yourself and did have one more at a health retreat that I went to. I knew something was wrong. And they told me my child might be the sugar because they've taken the sugar away and I'm like no, no, I feel like I'm going to explode. I actually feel like it Something's really wrong. They're like, oh, we'll give you some idea. I just still think it's a lot worse than that and they're like we can't have Penta hope we don't have Panadol I think I'm at the point of need go to the hospital. And I call that'll be embarrassing because you'll need to get an ambulance and that'll wake up wake up everyone. Oh so cool. My girlfriend who is intensive care doctor and said to her, I'm really sick. I can't breathe properly anymore. I can't do this and she's like you need to go to hospital like not until 5am Not until the birds get a lift out of here. So I went to hospital woke up two days. As late as they knocked me out, and I had stomach dilation, so I nearly burst my stomach and my poor husband because this was in Queensland. I told him I was going to hospital, but I didn't know what was wrong. I didn't take a phone charger. I didn't take any clothes. I fell asleep for two days, I was knocked out. Yeah, I woke up and far instead, I had no idea where I was. And he was left with a one and three year old. Wow, yeah. You've tried to do very well. for it. I think I think a lot of people would resonate with that feeling of not not being listened to or not being understood and having to advocate as you said, what? Why does it do you have any I mean, you've been in the health industry for so long, do you have any sense of why that is the case? I think ultimately how you present is how they assume things are. So if you present well and fit and healthy, it's genuinely assumed that if there's something wrong with you, we could see it and you can't see it. And I've experienced that many times with many people I know. And literally within a year after my surgery, there was a girl at my work who was complaining of similar things. And I said, You've got her just have a type yourself. And she wasn't interested in health and didn't really know the medical system or how to do that. So she tried and tried. And eventually they locked her up in a psych ward and said, it's all in her head. And she was scratching off all their skin, and that she was almost making it out. And it was a couple of months later, they found that she had pancreatic cancer. So that's a 90% death rate. And she was early 20s. She actually lived and she's had three or four kids since and yeah, I just yeah, I remember trying to get her to believe in herself and push forward and argue. Yeah, really tough thing for her to go through. Even when I was really I am good friends with her younger sister. And even a younger sister said I'm really worried. You know, they can't find anything but maybe the thinner hat and I'm like all you give up on her. But I get it. You know, we have

Stephanie Slater: 17:07

everyone around you is telling you. There's nothing we've investigated. There's nothing there's nothing. Yeah, you do start to I mean, not at all of the same extent. But I know even the diagnosis of postnatal depression it was so so quick to say you just had a baby, you know, you six months postpartum, you're ripe for that kind of thing. Do quick 10 questions. Yep, it's postnatal depression. And I was like, but there's more. There's more going on inside my body. Like I don't think my body is functioning as it should be. I think we're doing a blood test. Right? We're seeing what my levels are at my diet isn't great as in, it's not that I ate junk food. I just didn't eat a lot or I was breastfeeding. I just was exhausted

Unknown: 17:42

nutrients were level on nutrient requirements behind. Exactly.

Stephanie Slater: 17:46

And there was none of that it was just yeah, like in my head. It was you're just not coping. And there's definitely the mental aspect. I'm not denying that. The psychologist helped me through that immensely. And there are always other things that should have been taken into account. But again, as you're presenting, it's like, well, it's just that you're not coping. Absolutely,

Unknown: 18:04

yeah. And I think, too, I've had a similar experience with knowing something was not right in my head going, I think I've got some sort of condition or deficiency or something. And they think, oh, dietician always thinks it's food or, you know, and I'm like, No, something's not right. And my doctor actually did testing outside of the normal scope of testing. And she found out I had clinical zinc deficiency, and I've had it twice since. And what happens in my brain is I feel like, the clouds coming down over that analogy over your head, and everything's foggy. And like, you're in a, like, you're up in a plane in the clouds, and you can't see where you're going. I just, my whole brain was so frazzled both of those times because it causes neurological disturbances. And I just, I knew something was wrong. And I was like, Ah, they're like, are you sleeping this year? So I'm like, God, nothing had changed a lot. And I get that you need more sleep, and you need this and need that and take stress out of your life. But I'm like, There's something else. Those things I know about. This is something that I can't pinpoint. So

Stephanie Slater: 19:12

what's your advice? Is it obviously to advocate yourself for yourself? Is it seek different opinions? Keep pushing. Why are we saying to especially women I feel like women listen to in many in many ways, but I know definitely as moms as well, like there's a there's a law in Queensland that it's called a hammer. It's the name of I think the trial like not Riley's law, but something like that where it was a mum that was pushing that something was wrong with the child, the doctor saying, no, no, no, no, it turns out there was something wrong and say, Queensland have this law that you go with what the you keep investigating until the mother is like comfortable with that. Why it's not nationwide? I don't know. But yeah, what's your advice, I guess then, as to how to do that.

Unknown: 19:51

I think all the things you suggested, speak to lots of people too, because you'll find out somewhere somewhere else would have someone else would have experienced something similar. So I think that's really important. The more people you speak to, the more you learn, and then maybe someone else has gone through it as well. Yeah, seeing lots of different professionals and there's not one even there's not a one GP for everyone different GPS for different things, whether it's women's health stuff, whether it's got health stuff, whether it's whatever it might be, but I think there's different doctors and a better for different things, too. And I wonder how many people are walking around, having just accepted this low power health, that mediocre health, the fogginess that you talk about the walking sick, they functioning and not functioning very high? And there is I guess, in our society as well, unless sure we have a sick care system, not a health care system. So if you're healthy enough to get around every day, then that's good enough. And then your blood tests, as long as I hit the bare minimum, then that's good enough, but that's not what ultimately is the optimal is well above what the pathology sort of writings, those little, those numbers that you need to be between are really just the percentile gaps, and it's where do you fit in here and what's your normal, this is just the average for the average, it's not totally where you need to be sitting there. Secondly, today's episode is brought to you by Escalade, our very own health tech startup that's redefining wellness for moms. If you're trying to juggle everything in life, like oh, yeah, and want a simple and easy way to stay on top of your health. This is for you. Imagine a daily scoop of wellness crafted based on your unique health needs and delivered right to your doorstep. ASCO makes it easy with bespoke supplements tailored to your needs. Ready to transform your health, visit escalade.co and book a brief consult with one of our health practitioners. Stay tuned until the end of this episode for an exclusive offer. Ask lay made just for you. And my assumption would be that most people don't know what optimal health feels like so so that they don't know what they're aiming for. At the end, it's just this is good enough, I accept it. I feel average most of the time I wake up feeling pretty shit most days, but and

Stephanie Slater: 22:13

your doctor saying no, your levels are good. And you're in the range. And you're like, Oh, what if I'm in the range? or so is it by the range

Unknown: 22:19

I made the right is as good as you're gonna feel. If you say that we've been your point about women not being supported to, you know, have their instinct accepted by the doctor or GP, whoever it is, I think most men don't go to the GP. And you were really pushing for me to go to the GP and I said, I'm feeling fine. Like,

Stephanie Slater: 22:38

oh, hang on, let's give some context. You'd had shingles, you were getting sick, a lot like the cold a lot. And I'm like, Well, you need to go and get blood tests, like let's just see. And it was just a standard GP who wasn't going to investigate further than the very standard Medicare, you know, rebate type pathology.

Unknown: 22:54

But I told him that I wanted to get a blood test done. And he literally laughed at me. And was like, why? I said, well, because you know, shingles and etc? I'm just not feeling 100% Basedow? Is there anything wrong with you? I said, Well, you know, not particularly, but I'm probably just not 100%. And he literally laughed at me as if it was a total waste of his time.

Stephanie Slater: 23:12

And I was there with you. And I and you didn't get the blood tests. But when I said we'll call up like, See, he's like, No, they'll just call me says anything now. And then. But you need to investigate this, you need to see because you are a very again, what you're saying, You look healthy, you look strong, you eat while you're hitting all the marks. So I'm not going to investigate further. But you weren't well, at that time and your stress levels were really high. And I would imagine there would have been a lot of deficiencies there.

Unknown: 23:39

Probably, but I guess a routine blood test is not going to pick up on things like zinc deficiency or any other sort of vitamin or mineral deficiency deficiency. It's just your very basic standard. And maybe it's just having those upfront, you know, chats with your doctor to say this is the level of health I want to get to this is my expectation. Are you the right person to work with me on this? So my 81 year old dad actually said to me at dinner last night, I put him on to a new GP. And he goes, this GP is amazing. It's like the third time that he's seen Imperial. And he said, he doesn't wait for me to ask for questions. What's this? Like? What's this? Like? He's constantly telling me what I need to do checking in on everything. He said, he spent 35 minutes with me and he goes, I don't think I've seen a GP for that long, then years. And it was all to tell him how well he was in everything else. And but he got him to get a bone density scan. He'd got him to do other things that outside of the general checks just to keep him well. So dad's really independent. We lost mum seven months ago. So he moved out of home, we sold the business, all that sort of thing. So he's literally by himself and we go and visit him obviously every day with the grandkids and my sister, but he knows now he needs to look after himself and so he walks every day, he's got such strong routines. But he wants to be well for a long time. So he's loving seeing a GP that is making him do things to check on his health all the time flat out, and he just never experienced that. I feel like I'm yet

Stephanie Slater: 25:17

to experience that. And we've had a family GP before. And she was good. But I don't know, again, it's that pushing the boundaries and saying, Hey, let's go a bit deeper. And let's check here. And let's also

Unknown: 25:29

time issues and they'll let you go and sit there in the waiting room for 45 minutes, your appointment was at 9am. It's called detained, you get in there, it's like what's wrong, let's quickly get you in and out in five minutes. And I've got, you know, 20 other people waiting. There's no time to actually investigate and figure out what's going on. That's not what they're there for. Do you know my own the other analogy to this my thought they said that the kids school, there's teachers, and then there are humans are devoted to making education fun, better. For kids, I bet and the teachers that my kids have had over the years, and particularly this year, so invested, you go to these teacher information sessions, and they are just obsessed in being the very best teacher and getting the very best out of every single child. That's what you want GNU GPL, the GPL that wants you to walk out of there, you know, singing and rainbows and it's all good and happy and striving. And that's, you can see that in different occupations. But that for me, when I saw that with the teachers and Dad told me about his GP, I was like, that's what I get from my GP and I, I'm used to that level of service, but she had had an experience that and I was like all that said, you know, a taken fleek versus the real I want to change someone's life and and

Stephanie Slater: 26:50

who aren't jaded by the system. Because when you said the teacher analogy, as a teacher 15 years, I so get that because you can get so bogged down in all the other stuff. Yeah. And then it does just become more I just go and teach a class. You know, I saw so many teachers that way. And then there's those that it's their vocation. It's like, I've just, I live and breathe this. And yes, there's all this other crap. You know what, I'm actually going to push that to the side, because I know this kid needs that. Yeah, so I'm going to go in for that. And then I'll just deal with the repercussions after. And this is definitely like we're

Unknown: 27:17

saying that with not just GPS, but also allied health practitioners mean we're meeting with practitioners on almost a daily basis to, to bring them into the business. And they're constantly saying to us that they're just so bombarded with administration and managing whitelists and doing all of their clinical notes. And it's taking away from the time that they actually want to be spending with their patients. But there is so much of that in the background that, yeah, reduces the significantly the time that they can spend. And that's so true. So it's not necessarily the fault of the doctor. Yeah, this system that's letting everyone down. I think we're, you know, this is employee, employers as well, that what you need to do to keep a workplace going just to meet the the absolute bare minimums of your obligations to run a business is so much administration outside of actually doing the job or the staff doing the job, you've got so many strong responsibilities that it can take you away from what matters most. Like, do you think we're moving closer towards a health system? And further away from a sick system? Or is that? Maybe I'm a bit blinded by it, because we're sort of, you know, there's so much about longevity, and, you know, preventative health, but I guess we love that. So we stopped as well. Exactly right, writing the one or two books that exists that are out there. But that's probably it. Yeah. So I think we're getting sicker as a population. However, we are becoming more aware of wellness. So there'll be a transition point at some point in time. But I think, knowing that up to 70% of the Australian population that are either overweight or obese have a chronic health condition. Nowhere near it, we're probably at the edge of the cliff where people are falling off. 70% of people are going to, you know if something's not done fall off. So we're managing the sickness, and the 30% of people that are not going to fall off are probably able to access what they need to access to stay well, unless they're self motivated. Do you think we've hit the trough yet? Or is it still to come? Yeah, I don't think it's getting better when you look at the chronic health disease rate, particularly you and I don't know a lot like you guys will about fertility, but you certainly keep hearing a lot more about it. I guess it's spoken about more, but

Stephanie Slater: 29:40

I think it's healing one in 10 Children IVF Okay, he's now which is still that

Unknown: 29:47

putting do with health or is that

Stephanie Slater: 29:50

I don't actually have the answer for that. We can reset from lateral Yeah, but I do know I was wanting 10 Because I was chatting with someone and we were saying we were equating it to a classroom, you know, like there's two to three in every classroom that would Be IVF Yeah,

Unknown: 30:01

I think there's no doubt that births are decreasing significantly. I mean, right across the world, and probably part of that is health related. Yeah. fertility. I mean, if you're if you're obese and unwell I imagined it's a lot more difficult to have a child or have multiple children. Yeah. In my world, I guess with food, I just see a lot more people with more complex conditions by the time they come to get help. So, you know, that's my short sighted vision is that people by the time they come to be fed food to change their diet, they've already had so much go wrong. And you think where were you 10 years ago, when we could have prevented all of this, and it just would have been easier. But you're here now, and we can work with it, it's gonna be really hard for a little while. And you just have to be prepared to do the work or really intensely. And once you get through that, it'll be easy. But if you've come 10 years ago, it wouldn't have been this painful. What are you doing with with either beef it foods or what do you think should be done more broadly, to interject at the right point, you know that that time 10 years beforehand, before it gets really bad? What are the one of the things you're doing? What do you think we can do to prevent that using the media, particularly social media, I think is really powerful. And that's why we've come up with the YouTube channel 28 days that changed my life, to showcase to people that it really is that simple, that appears can change your lifestyle with your food and your movement, then you can change your health in 28 days, but you need to give it 100%. And I often say to people that are thinking about doing beef eat food, they say, Oh, I think it's going to be hard, do you think I'll be able to stick to it and I go, No, you should try everything else first come back when they don't work. And then it'll work. But it won't work if you don't give it 100%. But 100% of people that give it 100% It works for and that's why we've made the show that when people are committed, it works. If they're a bit lacks in their commitment, then they'll get some results, but they won't get the ultimate results. And in this digital series, you see that too. But life happens. So we wanted to show it as it is it's not edited in any way to show people getting better or worse results. The results just are what they are some people lose 10 kilos, some people lose two. But the people that lose 10, put 110% in. And then the other people they may have put the effort in but had other complications that stopped them being able to give it 100%. But it's still better to change something than to change nothing at all, when, you know, having birthdays going through IVF having, you know, child commitments with school or kids being sick and COVID One of the ladies had like you can't avoid that lie. It's not to say they didn't put in the effort. But sometimes things get away you see, you need to not let that stop you and start again.

Stephanie Slater: 32:53

And knowing what I was gonna ask was a similar question. But just knowing what you know, and how to take care of yourself. And, you know, diet lifestyle, which we know are the key factors that influence us. If we can get that 100% But for mums who might have either a pregnant or have newborns, how what advice would you give to them to take care of themselves? Because sometimes 100% feels hard. Yeah, because you think I want to have my beautiful green salad tossed with a green goddess vinegar, retin you know, all these kinds of thing, but I'm lucky to eat like, totally, totally, especially when we went from one to two and I had a toddler, and my kids are 20 months apart and our kids. And you know, I was already in the crust and maybe the cold coffee, or I will just have coffee throughout the day. And I want to I wasn't I've never been an obese person. But you know, when my weight was fluctuating terribly more so getting lower because I wasn't eating well. I felt awful. What advice would you give to them as to how to get through her not

Unknown: 33:52

about her fiction through I think so a lot of people will aim for that Green Goddess salad, you know that they think they need to do that then they think they've failed when they ate the cross. But in actual fact, I'd be saying just get that spring deputy in the peanut butter and put it with the cross just don't have the cross without the peanut butter, or without that brown avocado there. If you cut that up, there might be a good bit in there, eat it and throw the rest out. Find the nutritious things that you have around as a parent even if it means sacrificing the Green Goddess salad for the stellar celery stick or the piece of carrot that you got out that tastes really rubbish really boring on its own, but eat it anyway. So it may not be as delicious if you don't have the time to meal prep, but it doesn't mean that you don't need to do the work and eat the food. Anyway. So that idea of sometimes your body and nourishment needs to come before flavor. You know, we I think we often want leisure out of everything that we eat, which we should be able to do that but if we're time for you know what you still need to eat and the pleasure can come next time you get to eat out or when you do have time to prepare the meal. But it's clear when you get to the end, I think that's the thing that we put the pleasure before our body's needs. So I just think sometimes that boring thing that you have to eat is still worth eating.

Stephanie Slater: 35:16

That's actually has really hit home for me because I get Willies very much like I eat the same thing every day. And so I eat that, and I know it's a source of fuel and what I need, whereas I'm like, Oh, look in the cup on Blue Moons crab. I don't know if you want to put that with that. And then I just weren't ate. And then I kind of forced myself to eat a meal. But I think it's just saying I need the fuel. And I love that you said the peanut butter thing because I think a lot of people are scared of fats and I use inverted quotes for that. Because I like I love peanut butter. I didn't I make a little tidbit for writers.

Unknown: 35:47

Maybe you love them to tell her but I do

Stephanie Slater: 35:49

love Nutella. I never mind that ally. They good for you. Hazelnuts. Yes, I mean, I love I love walnuts. But your mum wills mum has started making the scene which I now make and I love it's mash banana, then you put a layer of peanut butter and then I use the no shoe chocolate melted and you put it in these little pods that we've got in the freezer, the most delicious little dessert. But I will go for peanut butter and these healthy fats. But I spent a long time looking for the fat free options. Yeah, because I thought that that was better than you realize, oh my gosh, it's so high in sugar. And that's just why I'm getting these peaks and then crashing because I'm not eating their fats that are serving me. And so I think reminding people to not be scared of good fats.

Unknown: 36:28

Yeah, and I think something at home for our food is super boring most of the time, but it's there and it's available. So you know, the big packet of raw nuts, nobody loves them. They want salted cashews, but I felt like that container every week and without without fail it's eaten. It's because it's the only thing that Aaron accessible and that you can grab. And because the other snacks aren't there. If you're starving, they're better than not having anything. So when you really hungry, you'll have those things and the punter the cherry tomatoes, like when I'm starving, I'm like off, that's the only thing that's quick and easy, then I'll just eat the whole 100 of those because the only other option, there's you know, if you put things strategically there that are quick and easy for when you're time poor, grabbing that carrot out, or that the baby CUCS make it easy for yourself some of those little snackable veggies are really handy and you pay a premium for them. But it means that when you are time poor, you can just grab the little bits and pieces that you know will get you through and even the small bits of fruit, apricot send apricot, some really high and high in as well. oil fields, things like that. That is just one mail for that you can just pop in you don't need to peel it, you don't need to cut it, I can

Stephanie Slater: 37:40

attest to the snack veg because we if I buy just usual carrots, they sit in the drawer, but I've got the snack carrot and I'll just wash them all sit them in a container and then I just pull them out for Sebastian and he just chews on little carrots and he loves that they're small and he eats like four in a row because it is small. And then I've started just grabbing that cuz I don't have to sit there chop them cut them up.

Unknown: 38:01

Many times. I mean, that works because I can't I mean times their four year old stands at the pantry and open with the door open and just looks and goes, Bobby I want something to eat. Like Well, there's something healthy here something healthy is I want something else. There's nothing else buddy. So take it back. You can have whatever you want. Because the pantry is there. And yeah, the good thing about the fridge if the bottom drawers are fallen, there's not much else there then it kind of be something and I do think a lot of parents are really guilty of buying lots and lots of berries because they're quick and easy and snackable which is great for kids, but cash their expenses are so expensive. And you know, you get the kids on Do you want some raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, whatever it is, and they the whole planet and 30 600% or them in my bed goes$7 I know this as

Stephanie Slater: 38:48

a $7 pilot like that, like the Arabella will smash them she's got Rossville ever face and I'm like, actually the more I'm like, Honey,

Unknown: 38:54

they're gone. Get a job. And

Stephanie Slater: 38:58

I know I know. I feel like we could talk forever.

Unknown: 39:01

I wanted to ask one more question before we wrap up, Caitlin, it's sort of related to the first question asked, but you've, you've done so much. And you are doing so much currently. And we will you've given so much great insight and resources. And we'll link to those in the show notes as well to be Fit Foods and to the television series you're doing because I think people get a lot of value out of that. But I wanted to see if you had any insight around managing the stress for you either you're robotic, and you just don't feel it. But you then went on and explained about your mom who sadly passed away seven months ago and even the way you talk about it you just seem to have this attitude of get on and do and I think for parents who have who listen to this show. It's it can be really hard when you're in the trenches trying to see that there's going to be light tomorrow and to get on and do and can you share anything about how you manage that because you seem to do it better than anyone I've

Stephanie Slater: 39:52

met seem to really have your shit together. And I like to go out going on quiet listen

Unknown: 39:57

to someone the other day who said just let people know you don't Have you shipped together first don't have my shit together. And but I do feel like and this is my husband's analogy and it's it's a really almost Dumb, dumb thing to say. But he goes, it's like you've got this little blue bear on your shoulder just going dead to do it. He did do. And I'm like, oh, that sounds really dumb lon and really not a nice thing. But I actually only see the bright side of things. And even with mom's death, like horrific, tragic, no known cause of death was supposed to pick up my kids from school, two hours of aerobics a day, 50 Something kilos, had her own business, all the things, even after the autopsy, no heart attack, no cancers, nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with teenagers. So no body, no known cause of death, I have no idea. But I can still even look at that experience and go Well, at least she hadn't picked up the kids from school because I have my kids there. They weren't in a car accident. They weren't with her when she passed away. She had a pre lab clothing shop. So she passed away in her shop she had had for 35 years around her clothes that she loved. And I'd spoken to her on the phone a couple of hours before saying well, you don't need to pick up the kids. I'm going to be there. I was doing a nutrition workshop at the school. So I know I got to speak to her. I know that I have my kids and my kids haven't been traumatized, because it would have been traumatic, I imagine. And the best thing about it all is there was some paralysis by walking past and mother, grandmother and young daughter and they walked a block or so passed to the patient chip shop or something like that. And the moms had just made a walk back I think saw something. And she didn't say what it was and she walked back and she thought Mom was a mannequin on the floor on the on the ground of the shop. And she realized that it was a person. So she got on the Good Samaritan app. And actually an off duty fireman came down and they did CPR on her and kept her alive and they got the ambulances there. But the ambulance unfortunately got lost. And he was they were like a kilometer away. So they could have been there in sort of 30 seconds but though 30 minutes, but everything happens for a reason. And Mum because she's only known health. She's never been sick or anything like that. She wouldn't have wanted to come back with any illness or sickness or, you know, brain dead if she'd been there too long and that sort of thing. So as hard as it is to process I go you know what, I've got my girl still and it could have been so much worse if it was a car accident or if anyone else. Yeah. So yeah.

Stephanie Slater: 42:41

I love I do love the blue bird. And Jean. I actually think that's really sweet. Because it is yeah, you come across as such a bubbly, positive, full of spirit kind of person. And I think to look at your mum's death as tragic as it is to know also what she would have wanted and know that she kind of went out her way.

Unknown: 42:59

Yes. Oh, absolutely. Her funeral. We did a spring carnival so no black hats, handbags dress up. We hired bands, or Gore 200 plus people. It was a celebration of her life. And it was everybody just said it was not only the best funerals was like the best event Soiree. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how she would want to be remembered. So yeah, I know a lot of people are going through really, really hard times, and particularly with fertility and postnatal depression. I know a lot of people going through that. My only thing that works for me is living in the moment today, because you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow that like tomorrow isn't guaranteed for anyone, and not in a negative way. But if you worry about things that haven't happened, then you're leaving a negative experience. So it is better to think about positive things that could happen. It doesn't mean they will but at least you're leaving a positive experience. So a lot of people around me, I watch worry. And I'm like What is the point of worrying because it hasn't happened yet. So why sitting this negative state or feeling low when this thing that you're worried about hasn't even happened? It may not even happen so worry about it when it happens. And that's something I learned from mom. She always would say to dad much dad's dislike that heart. Do that tomorrow, get on to it tomorrow. So tomorrow never came so she never it's like nothing she didn't want to do never needed to be done anyway. Wow.

Stephanie Slater: 44:32

That's beautiful. Wow,

Unknown: 44:33

that's a great man that I love the it says oh, here's the bridge that we said we'd crossed when we get to it. But in that example, maybe the bridge doesn't ever have to come. You know, just keep pushing it down the road and live up to optimistically I think that's beautiful. We've

Stephanie Slater: 44:46

had we have a thing, a motto that we try to live by now that you found recently, which was instead of saying ah, what if it all turns to shit or what if it goes wrong? We say what if this goes exactly how we want it? What becomes the super six This whole thing we said, what does that feel like? I know you're starting that

Unknown: 45:04

life and I vibrate at that if you live right at that energy, I actually got that from Mel Robbins. So you owe us a bit of detail replica of Mel Robbins as well, if you're familiar with her, but she's blonde, and she's gophers. And she said that the best way to reduce anxiety is just what if it all works out? Because we live in this world of what if it doesn't, oh, my God, how are awful but what if it does? You know, that's really inspiring. And I think good for us. We the entrepreneurial character journey is full of ups and downs, you have a great day you have an or you have a great hour, you have an awful hour, and be able to laugh at it. I laugh at everything all the time, for better or for worse. And I've got a handful of girlfriends and my sister we do the same if there's a sad part in the cinema or in a movie. We start gathering and people start looking and it's like, I don't know what's going to love the show. This is really wrong. But we are not really finding a penny. But maybe that's how we cope with not feeling the negativity. Yeah, totally. Why not? I love it. Just laugh. Yeah, it's beautiful. Thanks so much. This has been wonderful. You've shared so much great wisdom and knowledge. And it's I mean, some of your stories are unbelievable. So thank you for sharing with us and it's been a pleasure.

Stephanie Slater: 46:14

Thank you for having me. Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Kate. Bye bye.

Unknown: 46:20

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