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The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
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The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
How To: Pursue a Debt-Free PT Degree & Doctoral Program with Kyra PT
Now, we promise you some astounding revelations in this episode. Kyra shares the jaw-dropping cost of her five-year degree and transitional doctorate . This prompts us to compare the time and cost of traditional PT programs, and the staggering differences serve as an eye-opener. The discussion evolves into the current state and cost of education and the potential for alternative, more cost-effective routes. Don't miss out as we delve into this fascinating journey with Kyra, striking the perfect balance between work, life, and education without accruing massive debt.
Hey everybody, it's Dr Hansen here with the Ask. Listen. I just want to thank you for joining us on this. First, on our introduction to our podcast, the Ask with Dr Hansen, pt Outpouring has been incredible and I'm so forever grateful, listen. So today we launch episode four and our upcoming episodes they're either in production or in development. So I wanted to reach out to everybody who's out there right now and ask them the simple question what would you like to hear on the Ask? Any topic? There's no topic that's off the radar. We're going for it. All you ask, we're going to put it on. We're going to try and get somebody to represent whatever you're looking for. You just write in the comments section below. We'd love to hear from you. So I got to ask you something else, because you're out of school right now. So you are now. You've graduated, you've finished all your requirements. You're licensed to work in the state of California.
Speaker 2:Yes, debt free too.
Speaker 1:Debt free. We're going to get to that and just listen if you think that this thing is over. I'm going to show you some numbers when this is all said and done, but you are now enrolled in your doctoral program at College of St Scholastic. You are enrolled in College of St Scholastic and you are doing.
Speaker 2:The doctorate program for the PT program, like the transitional doctorate.
Speaker 1:Transitional doctorate. So once you finish this, I'm almost done.
Speaker 2:I finished five classes, I only need one more but, I'm taking a break right now.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:And then January, I'm back at it. I graduate in May 2024.
Speaker 1:And then, what will your official title be?
Speaker 2:Just Kyra, just kidding, no, not just Kyra. They always tease me and it's like Dr Kyra.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh no, I want to hear you say it, so I have it on record so I know exactly what people should call Kyra once she graduates with her doctorate. You got to say it. Once you say it enough, then you can so cringey, I know, it isn't it?
Speaker 2:Like Dr Kyra Savannah DPT. Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1:You said it really nosebleed, though Sticking with the nosebleed thing, you cannot be nosebleed with that. What do you mean? You got to go full Filipino with it. Shout out to the same politicians.
Speaker 2:Dr Kyra Sabando.
Speaker 1:There you go, full Tagalog. Don't be a nosebleed. You know what I'm saying. Don't be a nosebleed. Keep it real. Dr Kyra Sabando, they call me doctor. I know it's really cringey when you get to that point. I know, You're getting to that whole. Somebody's going to actually call me doctor now. It's weird.
Speaker 2:I know and they look at me here and I'm like, eh, I'm seeing Taylor Swift's song, like Dr Kyra.
Speaker 1:Dr Kyra Dr.
Speaker 2:Sabando.
Speaker 1:So this is the great reveal now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because now you've gone through your bachelor's program, you're in your DPT program. What's your total time invested into this PT degree Total?
Speaker 2:time. So let's see 2014, and then I had the five years of my PT degree, and then I decided to stay an extra year to get my license in the Philippines.
Speaker 1:You didn't have to do it, but you did go ahead and get it.
Speaker 2:Because I was stuck there for COVID anyways. I was like okay, well, at least I'm studying, keeping my mind fresh. So then let's say six years of that, but that was also part of the processing with my credentialing, and then so that's five years.
Speaker 1:Just to clarify. Sorry, you didn't have to have the license in the Philippines to come to the States, though.
Speaker 2:Not if you're a dual citizen, but I think if you're a Filipino citizen. Right now, I think they require to. I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I think it's like two years that you have to practice in the Philippines. So you do have to get your license, and then that's when you can decide to go out.
Speaker 1:But if I'm Maddie from Queens or Maddie from the Bronx, what I could do is I could just take my degree come over here to the States apply for my credentialing and take the board exam.
Speaker 2:I think it would be the same amount of time too. And then the thing what's nice about my I guess my route is that it was five years, and I am taking my doctorate right now, but I'm already working. I'm actually able to pay for my transitional doctorate.
Speaker 1:So we're getting to that point. This is the big reveal coming up now. So you're five years into your program, and then all the time from the time that you graduated to the point that you got licensed, that total time is added an extra year, or you got delayed because of COVID, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did. I did like six months because I was supposed to take it like July, and then I took it into October.
Speaker 1:So is it safe to say this is a five and a half year process?
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably yeah.
Speaker 1:And then now, at the five and a half year mark, you're working. And then now, how long is your DPT program going to take you?
Speaker 2:It was supposed to be two years but because I'm taking like a break this fall semester, so about like two years and two months. So, like eight, so total would be about eight.
Speaker 1:It's about eight years it took you. So most DPT students take about that amount of time to finish anyways, from pre-rex all the way to the end. So the time is about exactly the same.
Speaker 2:But they're not working until at the end of that eighth year.
Speaker 1:And so you're still ahead of them. So at five and a half years, you're already earning an income at that point, and then you go on to the rest of it. So now this is the big reveal, this is the drumroll moment. This is the moment where you say tallied up, including living expenses, by the way I have to think about that one.
Speaker 1:Right, I remember the number because it kind of sits with me in such a weird way, because this is just incredible. I think I paid the same amount for my just my PT program and I got a batch as a PT graduating from FIU. I just had to sneak that in there in 1999.
Speaker 2:Ooh, I was three. I need to sneak that in there too Wow. I was three.
Speaker 1:I was three, but that was a way long time before that. When Kyra was three years old, I paid, I think, $10,000 for my entire PT program. Okay, all right, what did you pay for your BS PT program?
Speaker 2:I'm going to round up.
Speaker 1:Okay, round up.
Speaker 2:I would say $8,000.
Speaker 1:Wow, you paid $8,000 for your entire five year degree. Okay Now let's move this forward because, at the end of the day, we're looking at real hole numbers. Okay, you have now completed your bachelor's degree, you're working, and how much is it going to cost you to finish your doctorate?
Speaker 2:My transitional doctorate is gonna cost me rounding up again about $12,000.
Speaker 1:So in total, we're talking with the $12,000, plus the $8,000. What you're telling me is it's gonna take you $20,000.
Speaker 2:Without living expenses.
Speaker 1:Without living expenses to complete your entire PT education.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Wow, and, by the way, just out of curiosity, not to get all up in your wallet and financial information are you paying for your doctorate degree out of your pocket?
Speaker 2:I am.
Speaker 1:I'm proud of that cause.
Speaker 2:I am. I am Wow so that's why I'm cheap right now.
Speaker 1:But you did pay for Taylor Swift tickets.
Speaker 2:I did, and I will willingly pay for it again.
Speaker 1:Wow, look at that, Take my money. Wow, Taylor Swift, you have to come back in concert just for Kyra cause. She will pay for you to come back to California. Wow, especially if you sponsor this podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, please yeah.
Speaker 1:I will be a Swiftie too. Yeah, there you go. So that's incredible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very, very. I think it was like, looking back now I was like man, I don't think I would ever have changed that way or like that method of how I got my PT degree and I got to learn about my culture. In the process, I got to explore my country, I learned things you know about being humble, and just the humility and compassion and there's those things are, I feel like, just as important as the actual PT degree, because especially compassion, I think, is one thing and I'm so grateful. And now I'm like when I I'm about to complain about something here and I'm like, uh, yeah, look, I'm just gonna stop right there.
Speaker 1:Relatively speaking. Yeah To that. Yeah, wow. What would you advise somebody like you know, kevin from pork and beans in Florida?
Speaker 2:like Kevin from pork and beans.
Speaker 1:Yes, Kevin from pork and beans. That's a real place in Florida.
Speaker 2:Hi Kevin, hi Kevin from pork and beans.
Speaker 1:He wants to go to PT school in the Philippines. What would you advise Kevin? From pork and beans.
Speaker 2:I would say it doesn't matter what school you go to, whether it be here, whether it be a small college, a very, you know, very popular college Sometimes it's all about the name, it's all about learning the concepts and really studying it, because all these schools will teach you the same things, because you know they. There's a you know that equivalency thing that they do and the credentialing that they do to make sure that you are entry level and you have learned all of the necessary information to become an entry level physical therapist and all that really matters is you pass your, your NPTE. That's all that matters. Nobody tells you what score you're going to get, like asks you what score you got. Nobody asks you what school you went to and I think sometimes the name of the school sometimes can be overrated, and I went to a very small, not very known school. But I think that if you just work hard, regardless of where you go, regardless of what school you went to, you're going to find the right place and the right job for you eventually.
Speaker 1:Well said, kyra, and I thank you again for being on this podcast. You are an incredible inspiration to so many. So many of the students look up to you as being like gosh. I should have done what Kyra did, like everybody's like second thoughts. Thank you again for joining us at the Ask with Dr Hansen, and my guest host today is soon to be Dr Kyra.
Speaker 2:Kyra.
Speaker 1:Sabando D-P-T-P-T.
Speaker 2:P-T-R-P.
Speaker 1:P-T-R-P.
Speaker 2:P-T-Registered comma Philippines.
Speaker 1:Oh, P-T-R-P. And also a special shout out to one of our favorite Filipino P-T's, Rachel. That's what's up, Paul.
Speaker 2:Out there.
Speaker 1:Rachel. Anyways, that's my time. I'm Dr Hansen and I ask Dr Hansen P-T Don't forget to like and subscribe to our channel and we're out. Listen, everybody who's been out there and showing the love and support. I truly, truly, humbly appreciate it. Mom, thank you again for always liking and subscribing. If you need some friends, they're out there and I would love for you to join on to the Ask. It's the Ask with Dr Hansen P-T. I'm so forever grateful. So, to all you out there, thank you again. We love you. God bless, stay safe. That's my time. I'm Dr Hansen and I'm out.
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