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The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
This podcast will share the world of physical therapy inside and outside of the clinic. We hope to create faith in our profession, change minds about access to healthcare and improve upon each provider in a meaningful way.
The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
Charting a New Course: From Military Service to Physical Therapy Assistant
Transition is the heart of this exploration as Vaughn reflects on personal growth, decision-making, and career aspirations post-service. His narrative serves as a beacon for veterans and civilians alike, proving it's never too late to redefine one’s trajectory. Vaughn’s advice to his younger self intertwines with the broader message that every choice, every experience, whether under the structure of military life or the freedom of civilian pursuits, contributes to one's lifelong journey of learning and self-improvement. Tune in and be inspired by Vaughn's unwavering commitment to excellence, a testament to the courage and adaptability of those who have served and those who dare to reimagine their futures.
You can now watch our interview on YouTube at AskDrHansonPT find us on YouTube @askdrhansonpt
Everybody, welcome to the as-. I was staring.
Speaker 2:Your host, dr Hansen. Somebody missed the queue again. You are not going to be in our band. I'm just saying I don't want to have past judgment, but somebody is off queue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Vaughn yeah.
Speaker 2:So welcome to the ask. I am your host with my peeps in the house today. Yeah yeah, on my far left we welcome none of the then the Philippines most accredited physical therapist, artikira, hello, oh there you go yeah. Yes, hello. That's how you get the party started, people. That's what I'm talking about. We don't skip on the sound effects here.
Speaker 1:Yes, I like this.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying you got to make it real, keep it real.
Speaker 1:See, isn't it? It's a different experience being in your ear.
Speaker 3:Yes, this is it First time. This is my first time on.
Speaker 2:So who's your first time? Who the heck are you dude?
Speaker 3:My name is Vaughn Hanuino. I'm a student physical therapy assistant and I'm doing my affiliation here in Grunewheels physical therapy.
Speaker 2:Who is our sponsor for this podcast? There we go. Shout out to Vaughn, sir. Yes, sir, and you all know me as Dr Hanson at the Ask here. That's wonderful. You got to change the name Kyra, because I feel like you need a name where you could just be like it's me, kyra son.
Speaker 1:No, I just like pop out of anywhere, like, hey, let's do a podcast today. Let's do a podcast today. Yeah, I want to be a guest today.
Speaker 2:So here's the thing we have on our podcast today. Our famous guest is Vaughn. Yes, sir, vaughn, the reason why I wanted you to get on this podcast with us today, vaughn, is because your story is just as interesting as any other story that we have passed through this, and you are not just a PTA student. Yes, sir, you didn't just roll out of bed and decide to come into this affiliation. No, sir. No, sir, you have done a few things before you got to this point and I really wanted to talk to you about that, because I don't know if you know, people actually take into consideration the number of veterans serving, who have served, who are serving and are currently out there taking on a career in physical therapy. So I wanted to have your take and have a conversation with you, and this, this, this is a new. This is a first. We've had veterans here before in the past.
Speaker 3:As students or students. Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:And always a pleasure to thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. And so my first question is I've heard mixed stories on this. Okay, how do you feel when people say that to you Like thank you for your service? Does it seem like it's like just a catch phase? That? You know, random, weird people say to you, and some stranger just pops out and says that or is there more to it than that for you?
Speaker 3:I feel like for me, since I did, I did two tours, so I serve seven years in the army. This is so weird. I'm not used to this, but I serve seven years in the army. I did six years in active duty and one year in reserves. Throughout those years when, oh, before my deployment, people would say, oh, thank you for your service. In my head I'm like I haven't done anything for my country, so you can't really just thank me, but at the same time I'm like, oh, I'm grateful I still don't that to this day. I don't know what to say back You're welcome.
Speaker 3:Like I don't like I don't know, I've never like thank you for your support, you know. But um, now it's like, since I did two tours, I feel like, um, nowadays, like soldiers, um, they just go in for like the money. That's easy, like you know, because it's easy to make money in the army, because it's always like constant, whatever. But um, before, it's like when people try to like serve the army, they actually try to like go do it for the country, right, and it's like the thank you for your service actually like means a lot when people say that to me, right.
Speaker 1:What are, like the some of like the benefits, like you're saying that people used to? You know people now go to the army because of like the benefits that comes with it. Like, what are some of those benefits that, um, you know?
Speaker 3:right now, since I'm in school, I'm using my GI bill. That's one of the best like um benefits that you could get, even though, like I didn't retire, I still had that four years of them paying um me to go to school type of thing. I could have done it during my, you know, army days, you know.
Speaker 2:But school or yeah going to school as well.
Speaker 3:They would have paid me to go to school during my um time but, um, since I deployed twice, I didn't have time to actually go to school, right, but I had some like sergeants and like um officers that I worked with that when we were deployed in Afghanistan. Um, they were in like class in school and whatnot, which is so crazy because one was a pilot and he's in class for something for his degree.
Speaker 3:And I'm like how do you have time for that? Wow, Like you're out in the country, You're doing your pilot, like flying all that stuff, and then on top of that you have like like time for your classes. That like I don't know. And for me, like I was young, and the stress was like I was 19 or I was 18, I think 18 or 19 when I first deployed and I was like whoa, you know, it was so different for me. And then, um, from there, like obviously the stress, uh, being out outside California, you know, Um, it was just Like a very like crazy experience for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's um? What do you? What do you remember most about? Like your first day of deployment. Like you, you, you. You get off that plane, the door opens and like what? What is it that? What's the first?
Speaker 3:my first experience, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Tell me what that's like.
Speaker 3:It was a crazy one, because we landed in, um, what was the airfield called Kandahar airfield, so it's like south of Afghanistan, and this is like the first week we got there. We were like, as soon as we landed, you know, we were like. We were like. We were like there is like a what do you call this? Like an alarm? I guess that we're like under attack.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:First thing was soon as we landed. They're like take, go to the bunkers get cover. So do you know what I'm over here, nine years old, I'm like what are we doing? Where are we running to?
Speaker 2:So do you? That's what I was going to ask. So you land you, like, you know, like me fat, sloppy, lazy guy lands on my Delta airline on an airfield in you know, poe Dunke, iowa, I don't know, and somebody starts like blaring a horn and telling me go to the bunker. How do you find the bunker?
Speaker 3:It. At that point I joined in um rush kicks in, yeah, and you just like I mean bunker, it looks like a, just, it's like a cement. And then you just like a tunnel in the way, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you just look for people that are going in there and you're like you know what. Follow them Follow the crowd and at the same time, try to like see where the attack is coming from, or like shooting or whatever. Right, right, right and um, yeah, it was pretty crazy experience to me when I'm young.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, fresh out of high school, like 2011, signed up and then got deployed at 19. It was just like a crazy like ride.
Speaker 1:Would you do anything different, Like if you were given the chance to go back and be like am I going to make the same path or go through the same path? Would you do it again?
Speaker 3:I was actually talking to you about it. If I have like, out of nowhere we get like a World War three, right, I would sign up, I'd sign up again.
Speaker 1:Even though my friends this. Why is that?
Speaker 3:Um, I don't know, it's just the experience that I get from of it and then like, obviously for my country as well, like you know, yes, sir, but um, I don't know, I just like helping people and that's probably why I got into PT as well, like PTA, because my motto in life is I put people's needs before my own, which is good and a bad thing, but I see it as a good thing. You know. People say, oh, do you not love yourself?
Speaker 1:Like no, I love myself.
Speaker 2:I love myself.
Speaker 3:Right, it's just for me growing up, it's just, I guess my mom taught me.
Speaker 1:Like selfless, yes, and.
Speaker 3:I'm always like, I'm here for you. Like, call me if you need me, type of thing.
Speaker 1:Green flag.
Speaker 3:Wow Like that is my motto Green flag. What's that green flag?
Speaker 1:Like that's a good quality that most people should have, like they should yeah.
Speaker 3:Very selfless.
Speaker 1:Yes, selfless.
Speaker 2:I think that's I mean great profession for this Cause. I mean it is about being selfless, right? We talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3:It's like I'm.
Speaker 2:You know what do you do it for? Why do you? Why do you do this? Is it for, like, being super famous on a podcast? That only my mom listens to, or is it?
Speaker 1:Everyone of my friends listens to this. Every one of your friends listens to the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:All two of them. All two of them.
Speaker 2:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:People in Elow. They like, comment on, like, like my Instagram when I share it and they're like oh, like, I saw your podcast, like you guys are so funny.
Speaker 2:See Shout out to Elow Elow and shout out to the MI and JA and UK Cause I saw some people from the UK.
Speaker 1:They're like we don't get any love for listening to this.
Speaker 2:No man, I gotta listen, I gotta shout out all my people and and you know what you are- Hi mom. On Gemrock. My mom listened to the podcast, my wife listened to the podcast.
Speaker 3:Everybody who?
Speaker 2:listened to the podcast. Shout out to you and that makes what a total of 12 people.
Speaker 1:Yes, and my little, my little brother, he was telling me earlier, not earlier, but like when we first released the first podcast. He was like can you like say hi to me on your next podcast?
Speaker 2:And I was like yes.
Speaker 1:Hello to my little brother.
Speaker 2:Like hello. We didn't shout out to your little brother last time.
Speaker 1:Not on the.
Speaker 2:Oh no, but on the first one that we released.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he was like oh, like I'm on, I'm on the podcast, Like that's so cool.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a good podcast. I thought it was fantastic. Um, so it also like so. Now, how was that adjustment? Like you, you've been out of, you've, you've done your service and after you finished, when did you decide that this is the route that you wanted to take?
Speaker 3:It was actually during my um, or actually before my service my grandma. She had a stroke and I was still in high school junior year, and she had a stroke, her whole right side paralyzed, right, and I was like like dang, like I feel so bad. My mom works, my, my dad wasn't here yet, my grandpa had worked too, so it's just me and my sister was already in the army as well, my older sister, right Right. So me, my younger sisters, we try to like take turns, take care of my grandma when, um, um, she had the stroke. And then at first I was like I didn't know if I was going to go to college, so that's why I went to the army. And then, a couple years later, after I got out, I got out of 2018. I was like, let me pursue like physical therapy, like kinesiology path, you know, pathway, whatever. And then, um, that's why I got into PTA, because I really wanted to get my grandma motivated enough to like go back to getting better.
Speaker 1:But you said you got your bachelor's in kinesiology. Oh, no, no, you were planning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was trying um trying to get my degree.
Speaker 2:Gotcha Okay.
Speaker 3:But I heard the program from ACC Ontario I was like, let me sign that Nice, so it can be a shout out. It was convenient, it was very convenient.
Speaker 2:Ontario their new program that's in Ontario. I mean, he shouted them out, so I got it First cohort.
Speaker 3:That's why, right here You're the first cohort at the ACC campus.
Speaker 1:So I want to know, like, what got into, like what was the factor into determining, like, what school you're going to go into for, like PTA, and it was just like the closest one for me in a sense, because my I had two friends.
Speaker 3:That was when I was working. One went to a Suza Pacific oh okay. And then one went to Loma Linda, right To our like. Loma Linda would be like closer to me compared to a Suza, but it was the cheaper, cheaper route in a way in a sense.
Speaker 3:But um, and it's this one's. I was just going to do like PTA for now, cause at first I wanted to do PT. But my friend was almost done doing her DPT degree and she was like you should try PTA first, see how you like it, you know, if it's it's actually your route that you wanted to go to, I was like, okay, let me try that.
Speaker 1:Would, um, would would the military cover your like, if you ever just decide to pursue like a PT degree, like after trying you end up like liking what you do? Do they pay for that, or part of it, I believe like you were talking about, um that one place in Texas right, uh, baylor.
Speaker 2:I realized what it was. It was Baylor.
Speaker 3:And they're free program for like um military personnel.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard of that.
Speaker 2:Remember we were talking about this when we talked about the cost of Pete going to PT school and Baylor. Is that school that? Um, if and I do believe it's the army, I don't know if any other- I think that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's the one that's like military and then they cover the cost.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think. I think it's the one in in.
Speaker 3:Texas. That's in the future, right now, yeah, never know.
Speaker 2:Never know how this all works out. I have to ask this question because I'm compelled by duty to ask this question as a whole, and I apologize in advance for anybody who served in the army, but everyone who I know that was in the Navy and the Marines.
Speaker 3:I think I know where this is going Okay.
Speaker 2:And the Air Force. In all fairness, they're going to ask why didn't you ask him? Why did you pick the army? If I don't ask the question, I do not ask this question. I am. I know I'm going to get mobbed later on, so I have to ask that question, so I apologize.
Speaker 3:No, you're fine. You're fine because I have actually a good reason.
Speaker 1:Well, not really a good reason.
Speaker 2:It's just like not really a good reason, a reason that's not really when.
Speaker 3:I first. But as soon as I graduated high school I my mom asked me do you want to do? You know what you're trying to do, you know, are you trying to go to college? I was like I don't know yet. She's like why don't you join the military like your sister? It's like I'll think about it. And at first and then actually she was like try Air Force, since your sister's in the army, try Air Force. I was like no, I'm not that smart. I don't want to do that because I heard so many things about like Air Force. It's like kind of hard to get in because like you have to go like at least a higher as bab score or something like that. So I was like let me try Navy. I didn't want to go Marines.
Speaker 2:I just didn't want to go. Why is that? Marines?
Speaker 3:Okay, marines.
Speaker 2:I've asked the question. I don't even want to hear they're probably going to hate me.
Speaker 3:They're like, oh, just die.
Speaker 1:That's why you never get a job. Why not Marines it?
Speaker 3:wasn't. I just I don't know, it was just not my thing, I guess.
Speaker 2:Okay, ask an answer. We're going to move on.
Speaker 3:And then I was going to do Navy and they kind of took forever to let processing and Navy recruiters yeah. And then the in the pause that I was at. Obviously there's like the Navy, the army, Marines.
Speaker 2:They're all. Where was this Plaza that you went to this?
Speaker 3:was in Southridge, south Southridge, or not Southridge by Sierra slow versus.
Speaker 2:Sierra, I think oh, like Montana area, montana area, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Um, and then there's the recruit, recruit recruiter, that army recruiter, and then I was like, let me go and check them out.
Speaker 1:And I was.
Speaker 3:And then they welcome, welcome me, and they're like what are you here for? I'm like we're to sign up, and then they're like come on in, so what you're saying?
Speaker 1:is to summarize everything that you say. The only reason why you chose the army was because they were the ones that welcomed you right away.
Speaker 3:Right away, I mean. On top of that, my sister was already in the army for like a year already.
Speaker 1:And then I asked her.
Speaker 3:I was like so how is the army Like, is it easy, is it hard? She was like, just do what you're told you'd be fine. I was like sounds easy enough. So I signed up. I asked my mom to sign me up because I was 17.
Speaker 2:Oh, you were 17 at the time when you graduated from high school. You were 17.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, me too. Yeah, me too, me three.
Speaker 2:I couldn't even get money out of the bank to pay my school tuition. Yeah, it was terrible.
Speaker 3:It was absolutely so. Yeah, I asked my mom, she signed me up. She's like okay, you're gonna do good. I was like okay, cool.
Speaker 2:How was that? How was that going to the military and being deployed? Yeah, on your, on your mom, because I. I. I think that's like any parent. I, you know, I have kids around your age. Any parent would sit there and wonder to themselves like what the heck is my?
Speaker 3:kid doing yeah, it was the first deployment, was really tough because I was there for 10 and a half months, almost like a year. You know, Um and throughout that deployment we would get attacked, like especially the first two months, we'd get murdered. You know those like you hear in the movies, like the whistle, that, yeah, yeah, that it happens in real life.
Speaker 1:That is scary.
Speaker 3:Right, and then when that happens, we can't really tell people right away. We have to wait till, like, we're cleared to, like you know, message people from you know home and whatever. And when I first messaged my mom about it or skyped her, I scyped her and she was like so worried about what happened and she was like no more, like can you please go back, like I don't want it anymore. That was scary because my sister, even though she was in the army, she hasn't been deployed because, she um, she had a kid before her like her deployment, like her base, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 3:So and then when I got deployed the second time, my mom kind of got mad at me but I was like I can't really help it, because you know, if our station is going to go, we can't just like, hey, I can't go, I don't want to go, you can't which a lot of new soldiers nowadays.
Speaker 3:Well, when I was still in, they would try to get out of it and I'm like what do you sign up for the military you know you're going to either deploy eventually. Right, you can't just like well, I signed up because I want money, not because I want to serve whatever but like that's why, that's one of the reasons why I got out to this soldiers man Nowadays is like not the same.
Speaker 2:And when you finished your service? What rank? What was your highest?
Speaker 3:I was a Sergeant E five Sergeant E five.
Speaker 1:And for us that um don't really have a lot of um knowledge regarding, like the ranking, like what is, what is that Um, pretty much like a supervisor, like a, you know, in a sense like a squad leader type thing, Um, I had like soldiers underneath me like uh from private, private first class to like specialists.
Speaker 3:And then cause I was a mechanic, but during those deployment, uh to deployments, I was a black Hawk gunner, which is pretty cool. Oh, I got to see Afghanistan.
Speaker 1:I think you showed us a video of you like on the on the helicopter, Was that yeah?
Speaker 2:It was cool. Wait, I didn't get to see this video.
Speaker 1:Oh, you can't see it. Oh, do you still have that on your phone?
Speaker 3:It's going to be on my Instagram, oh wait, that's right, your phone got stolen. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it had all of that on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's lost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's gone.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 3:Back up your phones, y'all.
Speaker 2:You getting back up your phone? No.
Speaker 3:I didn't, I didn't think.
Speaker 2:I know to back up my phone. Well, I didn't think that I was going to ever get my stuff stolen, you know, on January 25th, not that I remember the day 26, 26, no, no way Right after Christmas December 26.
Speaker 3:Oh mine, was January 26th of 2023.
Speaker 2:Oh, some, some. Yeah, people who have a not very Jesus friendly name walk and broke inside of the clinic and stole my stuff. Not very Jesus friendly words going through my mind right now. No, not at all. Let me tell you how it's pretty. No, I know it's rough, so pretty annoyed, I know, to back up my stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, I can say it. I never thought of like, oh yes, I'm gonna steal my stuff whoever stole his stuff.
Speaker 2:Did you put the message on there?
Speaker 3:Did I ever tell you how to put the message? No, you just told me about it. I just don't know how to do it, which I'm gonna figure it out later on.
Speaker 2:If your phone. If your iPhone ever gets stolen, do you know that you could put a message on there for anybody who turns it on?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:So I put a message on there with not very but it's not gonna do anything. I mean it's not, but at the same time it's very cathartic.
Speaker 1:It just makes you feel good that you sent a message that with not very Jesus. Like just feel something, like I'm pretty sure they just laugh and then you can locate it and they, they know that, they know you're, they're located, you know they're their location and that you can't do anything about it. Listen.
Speaker 2:I had the location and I kept sending it and I was like, let's go squad up. Let's go get the SWAT team, let's go get my stuff, and yeah, go. And they were like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1:We've got. We've got bigger problems to solve.
Speaker 2:My cell phone was a big problem to solve. I'm sorry, my cell phone is a big problem.
Speaker 3:It was me and two other friends.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 2:Three-four. They got three phones.
Speaker 1:That's why we we have trust issues, because you just never know. You think you're just playing a good All game of basketball and then there you go, go back to your bag and your phone.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I have a question. Oh, how'd you doing that game of basketball, though on top?
Speaker 1:Did you win at least? My team lost that day.
Speaker 2:And lost the phone. On top of that was it Double whammy.
Speaker 3:It was pretty sad that day I'm never gonna forget, december 26th.
Speaker 2:So you're gonna be like me. Everybody says, are you over it? And I'm like, yeah, of course I'm over it. I'm over it, I'm not worried about temporarily.
Speaker 1:Back up your phone, see even I Paid for for, like the iCloud, wait a second, hold on a second.
Speaker 2:Oh, the phone tie road.
Speaker 1:Kyra paid for extra services look, I pay ten dollars every month Just to make sure I can back up my phones and my laptop. Like I get so scared that like because I'm very sentimental, so I feel like if I lose any one of those, and then all the files that I have on their videos, pictures, I'd be hard, I feel like I'd be heartbroken that I lose those rather than the actual phone itself. Yeah, no, that's, that's how I feel.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, that's how I feel like. That's all my memories from like again, my Afghanistan pictures videos, memories from that I'm tough and then like just my, you know just childhood stuff you know, that's really.
Speaker 2:Tough very tough. Well, you know, it's always here, my friend.
Speaker 3:They can't take that from you.
Speaker 2:It's in at the top of your head any um, any parting comments, commentary ideas or thoughts that you would like to leave our listeners with, or shout outs it. I mean, this is your platform right now. My god.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're the, you're the star. Right now I'm in, we're just, we're just here.
Speaker 3:I'd say go watch the podcast. They're pretty cool. They're awesome people, both Kyra and Dr Hansen.
Speaker 1:Do you have like a special message to your, your clinical instructor? Is he like the most horrible person in this whole world?
Speaker 3:He's very funny. You guys are great. You guys are great. You guys have taught me a lot. So so far, within my three weeks being here and I've already asked I'm like if you guys want to hire after I'm right here, oh.
Speaker 2:So any, any Recommendations that you this is a question that we typically ask every student that has come to our clinic, but are there any suggestions, recommendations, thoughts, ideas that you would give to Baby Vaughn? That's baby Vaughn like when you graduated from high school. What's the number one piece of advice that you would have given to baby Vaughn, based on all your experiences? Because it's it's one thing to give somebody else advice.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm but it's another thing to learn from all the things that you've done and to be able to go back and say, hey, like this was my experience. This is what I would have told baby Vaughn.
Speaker 3:Find the right career at an early age. I'd say I think so because I feel like right now I'm 30 years old now, by the way I Feel like if I had chosen the right career like and found that path at early age, I feel like I would be more Successful in the way or more, um, what you call this.
Speaker 3:I Mean not that I'm saying that I didn't do anything, like you know, throughout the army and now that I'm in school, but I feel like if I had like a that career in mind already, that mindset, I would have been like Things set, you know, in a successful way.
Speaker 2:I guess in a way Do you think that, if you Do, you feel like in some way that your experiences have taken away from your, your, your, your, your path in life?
Speaker 3:Since it's two different Careers, like military and then now like the PTA career, I felt like I should have been more like on the PTA side or PT side because, like I said, like learning from you guys and just in general, like you know, learning about the body and whatnot, it's just like so interesting to me, very interesting, and I wish I learned it sooner Rather than later.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll ask Kyra, because I I'm like, like my comment on that, your comment on that yeah, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I for me, um, I Think I don't know if I'm kind of getting this from from this conversation but I think you spending also to tours on the military is not something that should be taken for granted. Like you should also like applaud yourself, because there's some people that can't do that, and I think that people sometimes just have different timelines. Like you say that and then I immediately that comes to my mind like I think of Olivia, like someone who's how old is she now? Like five, I don't know, 21. Okay, 21. She's 21 now and she's got her like her path and she's thought of this.
Speaker 1:And and then I think of myself also, although, like I'm 27 and I'm also like oh, wow, like I wish I had my career, like that, put together and and I consider myself to have, like I already knew, kind of my plans. And then I meet someone like Olivia and I'm like wow, like like good job to you. But I do. I think, as I've gotten older, I've also thought to myself like someone. People just have different timelines and I think that you're just meant to be where you're supposed to be and all those experiences that have led you to where you are were always meant to happen. So you know, you've made many what do you call this? You've made a significant effect on us as, being in the army, you have helped us and protect, protected this country and and you shouldn't you shouldn't take that away from you. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:I feel accomplished, even though, like I wasn't in school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and I think, moving forward it's just like your journey just changes or like your, the chapter changes and you just make an effect on. You have an effect on something different now, but that doesn't mean that what you did before or just because you did it at a later stage in your life, it doesn't mean that you weren't as accomplished if you had known it earlier, you know. So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean enough said. I mean that very well said out there.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 2:I will tell you that this is one of the things that there is no set plan necessarily for doing it the right way, the wrong way, right In your career. One of the things that you have to always remember is you are always learning. Yes, I love, I love looking at samurai culture or whatever Like martial arts. Essentially is that you are always working towards a perfection that you'll never reach, and every thing that you do, working towards that, is just a process, right. So there is no right or wrong way, it's just the way and you just have to keep going. It is just about the mission. It is about evolving as a person. It is about learning. It is about everything that we talk about all the time, which is you never really accomplish the end goal. You just constantly work towards getting better at what it is that you're doing and who is it? Who it is, you are becoming every single time and and everything is a lesson. So we get students that have texted me recently and said you know, my internship sucks.
Speaker 3:You know who you are. I think it's funny.
Speaker 2:My internship sucks. It is terrible, filled with terrible people. And then later, and everybody says the same thing, even some of the people who you know, even me.
Speaker 1:I've had some bad internships.
Speaker 2:But the thing is, is even your worst internship is a great opportunity to learn something, and so, no matter what I mean outside of like killing patients and doing something like that's morally objectionable right you will have the opportunity to learn. Opportunity to learn something out of that. And so take it for. Take it for what it is, learn what you can Continue to learn, grow and develop. That's it. Always room for improvement, always room for improvement and every experience is a good experience. Just survive it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Survive it, survive it.
Speaker 1:Anyways, that was some good, wise advice from Dr Hanson, who's been reading the book for 20 years, I have to bring this book.
Speaker 2:Listen, I am going to post a picture of Musashi the thickness of the book.
Speaker 2:I'm going to search that and the text in that book is like I'm telling you, it's God awful, terrible, small. And when you have you have stuff to do. Musashi is not like a weekend read, and if you can read Musashi in a weekend you are something special because You're a friend in two weeks, yeah, but he would read books like that, like in a day he'd go buy a book at the bookstore and just read and like, wait a minute go.
Speaker 1:It was released July, july 11th 1939.
Speaker 2:That's how? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, this book is crazy. But the story. Look how many pages the book is, by the way. It should show you how many pages are.
Speaker 1:Three hundred fifteen. It's taking that 20 years.
Speaker 2:That's the wrong book.
Speaker 1:It's taking 10 years to read three hundred fifteen pages. Oh no, that's why. That's why.
Speaker 2:It is not. Three hundred and fifteen pages, that's what it says. It does not say three hundred fifteen pages. No, it's saying no, come on, that's the only amount that they have to bring the actual book.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm going to bring the actual.
Speaker 2:Listen, anybody who's ever read Musashi it's like half a page.
Speaker 1:I have a page per year or something.
Speaker 2:Florida man takes 20 years to read.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I got. I have to bring the book. Now I'm bringing the book so that I have proof, so that they don't start making the Florida man comments about me again. That's just terrible. That's just so terrible.
Speaker 1:Anyways.
Speaker 2:Musashi, get it in a local bookstore near you. There you go, anyways. Well, thank you again, vaughn, for joining us. Again for the Ask Heaven.
Speaker 3:Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Thank you again for joining us. Yes, I'm your host and we are out. Until next time. Don't forget to like and subscribe, and subscribe to our channel. Stay tuned for more interesting guests that will be here present to have a conversation. Kara's over there choking. She's aspirating speech therapy Activate and we're out.
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