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The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
This podcast will share the world of physical therapy inside and outside of the clinic. We hope to create faith in our profession, change minds about access to healthcare and improve upon each provider in a meaningful way.
The Ask w/ Dr. Hanson PT
Recap of 2024: The Transformative Power of Season One.
We dive into meaningful conversations about the experiences that shape our paths in healthcare, highlighting the impact of varied timelines and journeys. Through personal stories, we explore themes of resilience, mentorship, and the value of diverse backgrounds in enriching patient care.
• Reflecting on memorable episodes from 2024
• Military experiences shaping professional identity
• Unique timelines and the question of "success"
• Financial implications of pursuing physical therapy education
• The importance of mentorship across generational divides
• Celebrating different life paths and their contributions to healthcare
Welcome, welcome, welcome everyone. Welcome to the new season. A new episode of the Ask with Dr Hanson PT and Kyra. I have to say last season was really fun and because of that we're bringing it back again. But we're going to start this season off right by looking at some of our favorite episodes. It's not a tremendous list. There's some that just really stood out in 2024. And we're really excited to bring those back in this conversation today. So, if you've not done so, don't forget to like and subscribe to the channel. You can find us wherever you listen to your podcast. Listening pleasure.
Speaker 1:Once again, my name is Dr Hanson PT. Joining me today is Kyra and Diana. They're in clinic and we're having this conversation about what 2024 looked like. So, again, stay tuned for some episodes coming up. We have some special guests this season that you would not expect. Expect people from across the spectrum of healthcare, people who are not in healthcare, people from all over and all around to share their perspectives of the world around them. So stay tuned, some great conversations.
Speaker 1:I'm looking forward to hearing back from you. Also, don't forget to write us. We'd love to hear from you. Put some comments in the sections below. Let us hear from you. We want to hear your voice, your feedback, and we want to actually hear what are some of your favorite episodes from the 2024 season our first season and we'd love to hear from you. Don't forget to like and subscribe us on instagram at ask dr hansen pt. That's my time. Pay attention. Here we go. He started like the the first season of this, like we were having these conversations with people. What's your most memorable? Did you ever listen to the podcast?
Speaker 2:no, I never did you never I got to. I have to. I don't even know where it's going.
Speaker 1:Sorry, is it the ask? The ask? Of dr hansen pt and I need to see if I have a podcast thing I do on spotify on spotify.
Speaker 2:I don't have a spotify thing do you have apple music?
Speaker 1:I do it's on apple music.
Speaker 2:It's on apple music it's on apple music it's on all the streaming platforms, on all the streaming platforms everywhere but the last season. What's like your most memorable conversation in the podcast um, I don't really remember conversations very well, um, but let me try and remember. I think my most memorable conversation is probably the one with Vaughn.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and just his military experience and everything, and how everyone has their own timeline and how they start their careers, and those journeys and those experiences lead to who you are as a clinician and you know you can't get, you know, too disappointed or you can't be too down on yourself because you achieve like a certain job at a certain age, or like you did it later in life and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you're talking about the timing I think that was the most memorable one wow, I served seven years in the army.
Speaker 3:I did six years in active duty and one year in reserves. Um, throughout those years, um when, oh, before my deployment, people would say, oh, thank you for your service. In my head I'm like I haven't done anything for my country. You can't really just thank me.
Speaker 1:What's what do you? What do you remember most about? Like your first day of deployment. Like you, you, you. You get off that plane. The door opens and what is it? What's the first smell sound?
Speaker 3:Tell me what that's like. It was a crazy one, because we landed in what was the airfield called Kandahar Airfield. So, it's like south of Afghanistan. Yeah, and this is like the first week we got there. We like as soon as we landed, there was like a what do you call this? Um, like an alarm. I guess that we were like under attack. Oh wow, first thing was, as soon as we landed, they're like take, go to the bunkers.
Speaker 1:Wow, get covered so do you know? I'm over here nine years old.
Speaker 3:I'm like what are we doing? Where are we running to?
Speaker 1:so do you? That's what I was gonna ask. So you land you, like you know, like me fat, sloppy, lazy guy lands on my delta airline on an airfield in you know, podunk, iowa, I don't know, and somebody starts like blaring a horn and telling me go to the bunker. How do you find the bunker?
Speaker 3:at that point, adrenaline um rush kicks in yeah and you just like I mean bunker, it looks like a, just, it's like a cement. And then you just like a tunnel in a way, yeah, yeah, yeah and then you just look for people that are going in there.
Speaker 2:You know what.
Speaker 3:Follow the crowd, follow them, follow the crowd and at the same time, try to like see where the attack is coming from, or like shooting, or whatever right, right right and um, yeah, it was pretty crazy experience to me when I'm young yeah you know, fresh out of high school, like 2011, signed up and then got deployed at 19. It was just like a crazy, like ride, would you?
Speaker 2:do anything different, like if you were given the chance to go back and be like am I gonna make the same path or go through the same path, would you do it again?
Speaker 3:I was actually talking to you about it. Um, if I have like, out of nowhere we get like a world war three, right, I would sign up, I'd sign up again I've even told my friends this.
Speaker 2:Why is that?
Speaker 3:um, I don't, it's just the experience that I get from of it and then like, obviously for my country as well, like you know. Yes, sir, but um, I don't know, I just like helping people and that's probably why I got into pt as well, like pta, because my motto in life is I put people's needs before my own, which is good and a bad thing, but I see it as a good thing. People say, oh, do you not love yourself?
Speaker 1:No I love myself.
Speaker 2:I love myself.
Speaker 3:It's just for me growing up, it's just I guess my mom taught me.
Speaker 2:To be like selfless. Yes.
Speaker 3:And I'm always like, I'm here for you. Like call me if you need me type of thing.
Speaker 2:Green flag yes.
Speaker 3:Like that is my motto Green flag, what's that?
Speaker 2:That's a green flag Like. That's a good quality that most people should have Like that should be yeah.
Speaker 3:Very selfless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, selfless.
Speaker 1:This is a question that we typically ask every student that has come to our clinic. But are there any suggestions, uh, recommendations, thoughts, ideas that you would give to baby von? That's baby von, like when you graduated from high school what's the number one piece of advice that you would have given to baby von, based on all your experiences? Because it's it's one thing to give somebody else advice, but it's another thing to learn from all the things that you've done and to be able to go back and say, hey, like this was my experience, this is what I would have told baby Vaughn what would that be?
Speaker 3:find the right career at an early age? I'd say I think so. I feel like right now I'm 30 years old now, by the way what is that? A death sentence? I feel like if I had chosen the right career like, and found that path at early age, I feel like I would be more successful in a way or more, um, what you call this. Um, I mean not that I'm saying that I didn't do anything, like you know, throughout the army and now that I'm in school, but I feel like if I had, like, that career in mind already, that mindset, I would have been, like, I think, set in a successful way, you feel like, in some way, that your experiences have taken away from your, your, your, your, your path in life careers like military, and then now like the pta career.
Speaker 3:I felt like I should have been more like on the pta side or pt side because, like I said, like learning from you guys and just in general, like um, learning about the body and whatnot, it's just like so interesting to me, very interesting, and I wish I learned it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1:So I will say this one thing, right.
Speaker 2:So, and this is, I guess, well, I'll ask Kyra, because I'm like my comment on that your comment on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just curious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I for me, I think I don't know if I'm kind of getting this from from this conversation but I think you spending also to tours on the military is not something that should be taken for granted. Like you should also like applaud yourself, because there's some people that can't do that, and I think that people sometimes just have different timelines, like like you say that and then I immediately that comes to my mind, like I think of Olivia, like someone who's. How old is she now? Like five, I don't know, I don't know 21.
Speaker 3:Okay 21.
Speaker 2:She's 21 now and she's got her like her path and she's thought of this. And then I think of myself also, although like I'm 27 and I'm also like, oh, also. Um, although like I'm I'm 27 and and I'm also like, oh, wow, like I wish I had my career like that put together and and I consider myself to had, like I already knew kind of my plans. And then I, I meet someone like Olivia and I'm like wow, wow, like, oh, like good, good job to you, but I do.
Speaker 2:I think, as I've gotten older, I've also thought to myself like someone uh, people just have different timelines and I think that, um, you're just meant to be where you're supposed to be. Um, and all those um experiences that have led you to where you are, we're always meant to happen. So, um, you know, you've made many um, what do you call this? You've made a significant, you know, effect on us, as you know, being in the army, you have helped us and protected this country, and you shouldn't take that away from you.
Speaker 3:Yeah exactly Accomplishments. Yeah, yeah, that's the word that I was looking for earlier.
Speaker 2:I feel accomplished, even though, like, like, I wasn't in school yeah, absolutely, and I think, moving forward it's just like you your journey just changes. Or, like your, the chapter changes yes um, and you just make an effect on. Uh, you have an effect, uh effect on on something different now.
Speaker 1:But that doesn't mean that what you did before or just because you did it at a later stage in your life, um, it doesn't mean that you weren't as accomplished if you had known it earlier, you know, so yeah, um, I think the one that stands out to me the most, anyways, the one that I thought was most compelling, was your conversation about how much you paid for pt, like the whole, like through and through, and it's huge going to the Philippines, like I know that you have family there and everything, but still like it's a huge step for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah it was just me and my brother. And then, like in the Philippines, like when you're in middle, when you're part of like the middle class, you have like somebody at home with you. That was like when you're in middle, when you're in part of like the middle class, you have like somebody at home with you. That was like kind of like my nanny ever since I was like born. That still stayed with us even like even now, until like that we're here. She's still the one that like takes care of the house and everything. But it was just the three of us. Family was kind of further out, like two hours away. It was a big step and I thought, like being born there, I was like this is going to be easy, like no problem, and then I got there and they're like why do you have like an accent to your, like, your?
Speaker 2:local dialect and I'm like what, I have an accent, what, and then everything like just culturally. Culturally, like the culture shock that I thought I wouldn't go through. I was like whoa, but then it really did change who I am. I felt like I became more mature, more independent, more financially like aware of things, um, and yeah, I just wouldn't trade that experience for for anything else. I would do it again in a heartbeat. I started 2021 and then I've been here for two years for two years, almost two and a half now two and a half
Speaker 1:isn't that crazy that time flies, though, so here's the reason why you got here, though. So I'm just gonna read some facts, because I told you I did my homework today. I really did my homework today, so OK, so the average cost of attending a university and college in the United States can vary depending on multiple factors, right?
Speaker 1:So what I did was I actually looked up to see exactly you know the round ballpoint average average of what it costs to not just attend physical therapy school but attend just a general university college, right? So, um, the first fact was uh, there's an organization here, where is it um? The american association of colleges of physical, the American Association of Colleges of Physical Therapy, aacpt. They say the average cost of completing prerequisites to go to physical therapy school ranges anywhere between $3,000 and $10,000.
Speaker 2:That's not including the undergrad. No, that's the undergrad.
Speaker 1:That's just completing your prerequisite program $3,000 and $10,000, that's just completing your prerequisite. Oh, gotcha program. Three thousand and ten thousand dollars? That's just the range of it. Um, I don't know about those numbers because I've seen some of the numbers that some kids go to school and, granted, they did say it depended on whether once you went to a private institution, a public institution. So that does make a difference. Now that let's. So let's just take that at face value. That, roughly, they're saying an undergraduate prerequisite requirement is about $10,000, right, they're saying that, depending on in-state, out-of-state fees, it can cost anywhere between $30,000 and $40,000 per year for a student to go to a DPT program right now, and let's see. And then, on top of that, the entire combined, not including prerequisites again, can be anywhere between $70,000 and $110,000 for a graduate PT program. That's a doctorate, yes, that's a doctorate.
Speaker 2:That's a doctorate. Yes, that's a doctorate, that's a DPT.
Speaker 1:Now I didn't look at going to school and becoming a PTA.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Right, so you have public-private institutions. That price range is going to change, dependent. Now, the reason why I bring this up is because that is the price tag of going to school in the United states, right, to complete, go out into the world and start making a living now, and and with all of that, it takes roughly anywhere between five to eight years. Okay, so about, yeah, five to eight years to complete everything. Yeah, right, so let's call it 10 years, just to round up, for good numbers, right, okay, including like I didn't get in the first time whatever, or a gap year or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I bring up all those big numbers to ask you you took a different course when you hear this number. Now, mind you, we're talking about roughly about $120,000. And some of you are out there nodding your head like, yes, some of you are nodding your head like I wish I had 120 000 in student loans. But tell me the route that you took. Tell our viewers the route that you took to go to pt school okay.
Speaker 2:So I graduated in 2014 and I was part of the IB program I was getting ready to. Actually, I only applied to one school that was going to take me to the PT course. I guess I had applied to Cal State, Long Beach.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Cal State Long.
Speaker 2:Beach. I was lucky enough to get accepted to the only school that I applied to. I was getting ready to go and it was, I think, around April or May, and my parents brought up an idea, because at that time my brother was going to nursing school in the Philippines. I think he was a junior at that time and my mom was like okay, you have two choices. You can stay here, get your PT degree here, but you have to take out your own loans. You have to pay for that in the future. Or you can take yourself and go to the Philippines, where we will pay for your school. You will have a car that we will provide for you. So you are all all set. You can just do that and you don't have to pay anything. And I was like let me think about this oh, wow, um, because that's a big decision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how old are you at this time?
Speaker 2:I was 17 wow I've always been somewhat of an independent like person, but when you move from one country to another that you can't just be like, oh mom, I miss you, I need to come back. I'm like you're stuck there forever. I mean maybe not forever, but I would come back every six months and stuff, but that was for me, I think, the biggest.
Speaker 2:I wasn't sure if I was ready for that at that time, but then financially it was just the right choice. I really thought about it and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so cheap, I do not want to be paying for my student loans like $110,000. I'm like you know what, I'll just go.
Speaker 1:The other episode that stuck out, which was kind of like it was like a hangout conversation. This one wasn't even published. Actually, it was one where you had a conversation with Olivia. Oh, yeah, and it was just the two of you kind of bantering back and forth. That one was never published.
Speaker 2:I would just be like, hey, hey, everybody, it's kyra here.
Speaker 4:If I won the toss, I should choose nope like you know, when you play football, you flip and you get to pick whether you're receiving or kicking a rolling camera? Yes, I do, you know we've got another one going this way, just make it not so serious, because it doesn't have to be. Yeah, it does not have to be, and I think. But I think it's a great balance though, because I feel like you guys also make me more professional not more professional, but I think that you know, you guys kind of balance me out.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, a little bit, just a little oh yeah, is it hard to work with people that are a lot older than you in a clinical setting, sometimes actually like, yeah, like actually, sometimes, I would say more times than not, it is more difficult, because I feel that way sometimes, yeah, because it's see, that's a hard question. It's hard, yeah, it's hard, but I don't think it's a bad thing, I don't. I don't think it's a bad thing, I don't think it's a, I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's definitely different. It's definitely difficult. I would say more of like the. I think I like the approaches I take in in treating are like, I think I'll try to make things more fun or, you know, very specific to that person, but I think that may be like someone who may be a little bit older. They just kind of like get down to it, like what are we working on? This is, which is not a bad thing, it's not bad, though, and they just I feel like it comes from experience too.
Speaker 2:They're like oh, this is what this person is presenting, or sometimes they're just like I'm too old for this. I know what to do. This is it.
Speaker 4:I think in treatment it could be difficult, but I think it's more of a personality thing. But that's with anyone at any age. You're going to you. Know, I mean, you and I get along so well. We're not the exact same age. We get along super well. But someone who I don't know maybe is my age. I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 2:I didn't think I would get along. Didn't you know that?
Speaker 4:I didn't think I would get a, didn't you know that? I didn't think I would get along with you. Let's just confession. No, let's take confessions.
Speaker 2:Student and you're like you're, like you hear them 19 year olds come into your facility, like I didn't say that okay I did not say that. Stop lying okay so it's making up stories now because I did not say no, because I okay, first of all, I did not say yes, you did, okay, what did not? Say it. I did not say it. Okay, first of all, I did not say it.
Speaker 4:Yes, you did. Okay, what did I say? You were like maybe it wasn't that exact those words, but you were like you're a 19-year-old coming to your facility like you don't really know what to expect.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, okay. Maybe yeah which is not bad. It's not bad, bad.
Speaker 4:But then when I came in. You're all. Okay, that's just me. Okay, knowing me like, that's just me, it is just you. It is just you. But I didn't think that you liked me.
Speaker 2:But I didn't think I would like you. I didn't think I would like you and I was like, oh, like, this one's actually like really good. It's like this actually this person actually knows her stuff, like just take some time, because you just, you know, if you hear like 19 year old, you're like oh, this one's like brother.
Speaker 2:No, it's like oh, maturity, like, especially like because I consider myself like super mature for my age and I usually don't get along with people. I wouldn't say I don't get along, but I don't, I don't mesh with people that are a lot younger than me and I was like, oh, I actually liked this one.
Speaker 4:That's good. Yay, yeah, I think it's. I think it's hard, uh, being I, cause you just don't know what to expect. But I also think that I mean obviously different things come with age, like it's just, it's human life, like obviously you're going to have your strengths and weaknesses. But I would say that I, I don't know, I think you just as a student, I mean there's always so many things you can focus on. But I think just being open-minded, just right, being humble and, you know, open to learn and stuff, and I feel like you bring in like fresh air well yeah, it's okay, just the sun shining I feel like for because before you came in it was just like matt and I like it's just like.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's just me, matt, yeah. Different energy, different approaches, different mindsets, different perspectives. It's always nice, yeah, and like different generations too. Although we kind of fall under kind of same generation, I feel like it is different yeah, even just for, like you know yeah that's what I'm saying like like just the the three, or and everything like the the three different the three different therapists. We're not even gonna go in generation.
Speaker 4:No, we don't need to do that, but the three different I mean. But it's very interesting to see all that play together because I think it creates something like really beautiful, like as a clinic, just to have all that, because I I mean there's only a few places I would say that are able to to mess, and I feel like people see that when they come in.
Speaker 4:I feel like they see that we're like a family and we bond very well and with all the staff and the students. I think that we really pride ourselves on making that like family bond, very important, cause I mean I would say at some clinics it's not, it's just, it's strictly business.
Speaker 2:Is that like something like you're saying out of like, like out of experience?
Speaker 4:Yes, out of experience. Yes, yeah, some clinics are just it's business and but it is I mean it is business, yes, Respectfully, yes, but I mean life is too short to just keep things business, like have a little bit of human connection here and there. Wow, you're really speaking deep. I am because I life is too short to just wish that every work day would just go by because, then that work day goes by, then the week goes by, the month goes by then the year goes by might as well have quality people around you and quality conversations with your patients to be able to connect, to make it meaningful and worthwhile.
Speaker 2:I'll die on that hill. But what if you come to a clinic and you don't really know the environment?
Speaker 4:you make the environment really you make it. You make it because why I? I am not going to just conform to just being all like cold and you know, get to the point and stuff like that. Like you have to, you know, shed some light here and there, crack a joke here and there, and if it, if it, if it, you know, resonates with someone, if they laugh, and they laugh, and then boom, now you have like a, you made a connection, like awesome, you, you, you can't just go into work and be miserable every day.
Speaker 3:I miss you, Olivia.
Speaker 1:So once again, I want to thank every one of you for joining us and becoming a part of this family of conversation and opportunities to learn, develop and grow. Once again, we invite you to like and subscribe to our channel at the Ask with Dr Hanson PT and look out for more episodes. I mean, there's a lot of conversations coming up with a lot of guests that will be here on the channel. I'm ready to just provide you some insight on things that we just kind of talk about in the clinic. I mean, it's a, it's a playful banter, a comfortable conversation with old friends. So don't forget to like, subscribe and listen to wherever you subscribe to your podcast.
Speaker 1:That's my time, I'm Dr Hanson and I'm out. We look forward to having this conversation with you again down the road and stay tuned for the next episode where I speak to one of the most, I guess, famous PTs in my life, my mom. That's right, stay tuned for that episode. My mom, who had been a physical therapist for over 30 years, joins us on the podcast where I have a conversation with her and once again, we thank you for being a part of our family. Sit back, kick back, listen and ride.
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