A UK Army Vet on the Carnivore Diet Beats T2D & Recovers from the Gulf War Syndrome

Mission Carnivore Episode 1: How a veteran on the carnivore diet completely reversed Type 2 Diabetes and put his Gulf War Syndrome in complete remission. Join me in this important carnivore diet interview with UK Army Gulf War veteran George Goodenough.

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I'm a retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer living the carnivore lifestyle since March 22nd, 2023. I lost 30lbs in the first 90 days, and continued my weight loss beyond that losing another 14lbs in the following 60 days. I have become much healthier, both physically and mentally in the process. If you’re seeking a sustainable and effective weight loss method, the carnivore diet might be the answer you’ve been looking for!

Join me as I give a military veteran perspective on the carnivore WOE, find great recipes, learn tips and tricks, review carnivore movies, and gain insight on practical ways to fit the carnivore diet into your life! If you follow me, I'm going to be your "Battle Buddy", setting you up for success!

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DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and am not giving medical advice. This is simply a channel about my experience. Please consult your own physician if you have questions or concerns about nutrition, weight loss, or your conditions.

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All right. All right. All right. Carnivore soldier coming at you from Austin, Texas. This morning's the first video in a series called mission carnivore, where we focus on veterans and first responders and how the carnivore diet has affected them. My first guest here is. George Goodenough all the way from across the pond over in the UK, a former soldier. And we're here to hear his story and how carnivores affected his life. So I'm going to bring him in here. Hi. Morning, George. How you doing, man? How's it going? I'm doing very well. Yourself? Oh, fantastic. It's early morning here. Zero dark 30, but I'm used to that. And I know you are too. Why don't you just do a real quick introduction of yourself. Tell me about yourself. Okay, so my name is George Goodenough. I'm a former soldier. I served just over eight years in the army. I'm a veteran of Desert Storm. The cap, the barrier that I'm wearing is the intelligence core from the British Army, which is what I was in. I was a Middle East specialist, so I speak Arabic and also French. The reason that they sent me to be an Arabic linguist was because I had a high qualification from school and college in French. And they needed a linguist at the time, and it's basically because of that that I ended up in Desert Storm as an Arabic linguist over there with the 7th Armoured Brigade, the Desert Rats. And then, when I left the army I spent about 10 years as a private military contractor in high end diplomatic security. Not for the British government, but mainly for the Arab governments, the Saudis, and people like that. And then I did six months in Beirut with the European Commission. So that was quite a... A, a good time, if you like. But then after I got married, I've been married 20 years now, so that wasn't the life of a married man. So I settled down, , settled down in the, in, in England little bit of low end security for a while, and then discovered the construction industry. I now work as a traffic management specialist in the construction industry. So that's, and I'm, I'm 58 years old, just turned 58, so we're about the same age as well, Larry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So we have a, yeah, we, as you know, we, we've spoken before. We share a few interests. I'm a former rugby player and a John Wayne, John Wayne fan. So hello to Duke. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Duke's right here next to me. I fed him early so he wouldn't be bothering me during this conversation because he usually eats about zero 500 and I got him up zero 400 and fed him at four 30 so he would not be on my shoulder. There's a slight danger we might get interrupted by Angus if he turns up, I have a cat called Angus. Oh right. Yeah, so if he turns up I'll apologize, but I'll introduce him as a fellow carnivore. Angus sounds like a maybe a Scottish name though, huh? Yeah, there was there was a film many years ago, I think it was called Angus, Angus. Something and it was basically a film which, which my, my, what my wife liked and yeah, he was a Scottish wildcat. So she named Angus after, after the Scottish wildcat. There you go. Cool. I've been to Scotland and England. Now, where in England are you? Right. I'm down in the Southwest. I'm in the town of Bridgewater in the county of Somerset. And from what I understand, you have a, you have a Bridgewater Township in Somerset County in New Jersey, I think, or something like that, from what I was told. Possibly. It's a big country. I don't know. I mean, Jersey is one of the places I've not really been very often. Yeah, I was, I was, I was in the Big Apple, I was in the Big Apple many years ago, and I bumped into a a guy in a bar, unusually and he told me that he came from, he, he was from New Jersey, and he lived in Bridgewater Township in, in Somerset County. So yeah, there is a place. Yeah. So to just to put you in the picture where I'm on the M5 motorway And I'm halfway in between the city of Bristol and the city of Exeter down here in England Both of which are big rugby towns as you met mailman. Oh, yeah. Yeah That's awesome My first introduction to rugby was when I was in high school We hosted a guy named Mitch from England He came over as a student in high school and he was from Sheffield If you know where that is and that he was a big rugby player. So he, he introduced me. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. All right. So let's get into your carnivore stuff. I'd like to know what were your reasons behind trying carnivore? Okay. So my why is basically what we're talking about here. I had to go back to really the Gulf war and you're probably aware that there's something out there. Mr. Mystery illness called Gulf war syndrome. So I got to about 40, 40 when I retired from The diplomatic type of security and really, I guess I took my foot off the gas in many ways as we all do and my weight just shot up and I started feeling really ill and I had all the symptoms of Gulf War syndrome. Now, at the time, I'd never heard either the term insulin resistance or of metabolic syndrome. So I was barking up the wrong tree for many years and basically the national and the British government doesn't like to talk about golf Or syndrome on account of the fact that they're not prepared to pay out anything So they I basically got fobbed off onto an organization called combat stress Although I didn't bother with them because I think I told you I remember the national Golf Veterans and Families Association here in the UK. They were very helpful and things got so bad in the end I reached 291 pounds. I could barely walk and do my shoelaces up. I had to sit down to get dressed. Basically. I was, I was seriously ill. I was, you know, a heart attack waiting to happen. So again, the national health service, they tried to put me off all the time. They, I could see in their eyes when I spoke to them that they had nothing but contempt for me because they, they were blaming me basically. Right. And then. The National Golf Veterans and Families Association got involved. They wrote a strongly worded letter to the NHS and eventually I got some sense out of them. But it wasn't until I had my blood stump that I discovered that I was type 2 diabetic. I was morbidly obese. My triglycerides were 4. 7, which is high in the high range. And my hypertension was up. And obviously I had low HDL and, and everything that was, so that was, I'm a, I'm a year ahead of you, Larry. That was on the very beginning of March of 2022. Okay. So now again, I, nobody, nobody, nobody called it metabolic syndrome and none of the, the, the medical people referred to insulin resistance at all. But the, the one clue that I did get was from an excellent nurse called Kathy Moran. She told me that savory carbohydrates starch. In other words, in terms of glucose in the blood, just as much as the sweet sucrose and fructose does. That gave me a start point. So now my wife and in January 2022, when I I sent you the full picture and also December of 21 on Christmas Day, I lost two very good friends, both of whom have put on a lot of weight in recent years. and both of whom dropped out of a heart attack. One was 69 and he was very fed up at that time and the other one was Tommy who was drinking an awful lot of those energy drinks. The monster energy, Red Bull, and that sort of thing and again, he put on a lot of weight. Yeah, and literally they both dropped dead. So, I knew that I was heading that way. I was really heart attack waiting to happen. So, yeah, the so when Kathy told me about the carbohydrates, I went away. I was the doctor issued me with metformin and statin prescriptions. I put those on the kitchen table and I did some research. Now, I was lucky enough to have a good start point because in about the year 2010, there was a show on a TV chef show on in England called the Hairy Bikers. They're called Simon King and Dave Myers, one from Newcastle, one from Birmingham, and they're, they're a great pair of lads and they did a kind of special on type two diabetes. How to cook, how to take care of type 2 diabetes. Now their special guest on that show was a guy called Professor Roy Taylor from Newcastle University. And he absolutely was the pioneer in reversing type 2 diabetes. Now his method was low calorie, 800 calories a day for 4 weeks and you will reverse type 2 diabetes. Wow. So yeah, so that was a start point. So I, I Googled professor Roy Taylor and that kind of, you know, you get, the algorithm takes you to other places as you know, and then the low carb solution came up. This was again in March in March. So I started going low carb and I discovered, I didn't know anything about YouTube this time. I wouldn't find YouTube until the August. So I, but I did find a quite a useful American Google site called Healthline. Have you ever come across it? I have not. I'll check it out. Healthline. Right. Okay. Healthline. I find it quite useful. And then when I went back to work and explained to my work mate, Max, his name is Max Brownfit. He's got no medical background, but he told me about ketosis. And he recommended, he recommended fewer than 50 grams of carbs per carbohydrate a day to put myself in, in ketosis. So I basically, I had, I had a start point. Okay. So you know, so why, so actually the first question I've got to answer is my why is because I lost two good friends and I've lost several people since to diabetes and heart attacks, all of whom I suspect was where it was down to, down to incident resistance, all in their fifties and sixties, none in their seventies, which is quite frightening. That's really, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My why is basically because I realized I was. Heart attack waiting to happen. I have a wife, two lovely stepchildren, three lovely grandchildren, two cats who are very important to me, the other one's called Hamish by the way and he's a bit camera shy, we probably won't see him. So yeah, that's my wife. It's basically, I needed to sort myself out mentally and physically, so that I could live my life again enjoy my life again, and look after my wife and our family and pets. So that's, that's my why, that's my reason. Yeah. So I've noticed, I mean, being a vet, we have the VA here, which is actually pretty good. It's, I mean, compared to a lot of other countries like yours where you don't really have specified care for veterans, but you still have to be your own advocate, right? Because they are government guidelines only. They look at blood work and they prescribe pills and that's kind of what they do. And they don't really have like leeway to say, well, you should try diet or you should try this or look into this, you know, In fact, they kind of discourage it. And when you come in with that kind of information, if they prescribe or recommend you take a drug and you don't take it, you have to sign a release saying, I'm not going to take that. Yeah. You know, I should add the fact that I actually threw away the two prescriptions for metformin and statins. Fantastic. Congrats, man. So yeah, you do have to be your own advocate and that's, that's not just military. That's I think it's everybody civilian. First responders, whatever that you are, you have to be your own advocate, especially because all governments are pointing the wrong direction right now, nutritionally. So you just have to know and learn and yet become a student and people like during the last pandemic, people were talking about, you know, making fun of people who do their own research. And back when you and I grew up, we called that reading because we had to learn and that's the only way you could learn was to read. I mean, like I said, I'm a signal, I was a retired signal officer and I'm still in a wireless network architect and none of that technology existed when I went to college. I had to learn, I had to teach myself. So I did my own research. I went to, we had a bookstore called Barnes and Noble out here. I don't know if you have it in the UK. But that's where I did my reading. I'd go to Barnes and Noble, and at first I couldn't afford books, so I'd just read them while I was at the bookstore. And then I'd build my library up, which you see some behind me there. A lot of those are military and signal books. But I had to do my own research. And that's where we're at now. You have to. You have to read, become a student, and educate yourself. Alright, so that's great that you did that. That's the example. That's how we all are gonna get there. All right. So can you tell me about your initial experience when you first started it, what was it like? Well, I didn't have the advantage of of e e T at the time. So I was re, I really was feeling away blind. It was just Max introduced me to ketosis was the start point. I, I'd heard of the Atkins diet. I was aware of the Atkins diet, right? So I knew it was, I knew it was low carb. So, really, I would say for the, certainly for the first few months from probably until December of 22, I was focusing on ketosis. So I was eating, still eating low carb veg avocados, and all those sort of things, and fruit. But I gradually, as I learned and got more savvy, I just started eliminating stuff from, from the diet, really. And I think I might have mentioned it to you in the past, that on... Christmas Day last year, we always have Christmas Christmas lunch in the UK is turkey with two, with, with usually carrots and, and cabbage or sprouts, sorry, sprouts, always Brussels sprouts and roast potatoes. Now, we had the family round last year, so I, I thought, well, I'll just, you know, for the day, I'll just you know, I'll, I'll eat some of the veg, but I, I, I had half a roast potato, I found, I didn't really want it to be perfectly munchy. I realized that I was trying to do it to keep other people happy. So if I could, exactly, yeah. So if I could go to the point where I went keto focused to carnival focused, I would say it was Christmas Day last year, to be perfectly honest with you. But one thing I've got to say, Larry, is I am nowhere near the perfect carnival. I am definitely imperfect. I am, you know, I am, I'm carnival based, but we'll go through some of what I eat later, and probably that will make your, your future guest. The lovely Dr. Anthony Chafee, if you will. I'm not as purist, I'm not a purist like him, or even I'm not on the lion diet as you are. Plants are trying to kill you? Yeah. Exactly, yeah. So yeah, but I eat very, very few plants nowadays, to be perfectly honest with you. But a lot of the meat products I eat do have trace carbohydrates in them as well. And the other thing is I still drink coffee and I still use a coffee creamer, which is called Coffee Mate. And with each cup of coffee that introduces 0. 7 grams of sugar into my bloodstream, but it's something I can take on the chimps. It just makes it more palatable. And at the end of the day, we know that one teaspoon for the sugar is four grams. So even if I have four cups of, coffee mate, coffee mate creamer in my coffee a day. Then I'm getting less than one teaspoon full of, teaspoon full of sugar into my bloodstream. So, yeah, I say, so for our, our perfectionist brothers and sisters out there, please forgive me. Please don't, please don't give me a hard time in the, in the comment section. Because why? It works for me. We all have, yeah, we all have a different journey, right? I mean, for me I'm one of those guys that can't do any. Any sugars because I will binge, I will, it'll trigger me. And it's like an alcoholic, right? You have guys that can moderate, that can have a drink. Every now and then. I can have a drink every now and then. I'm not an alcoholic. My dad was an alcoholic. He could not have a drink today.'cause if he did, it would be a bad week or month or whatever. Who knows? Or bad rest of his life. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah, everyone has different journey. Yeah. But again, this, we'll touch on the arc on that because again, that's that sets me apart from many of our brothers and sisters in the carnival because. I'm a very sociable person. Most, most British soldiers are, and drink alcohol is very much part of our culture to say the, say the very least. So in order for me to carry on my social life as normal, I'm still carrying on drinking, but I'm very mindful of what I'm drinking. Now, we'll do, I'm going to do a quick show and tell here. So I think my wife still drinks Coca Cola. Okay. So basically. I'm sure you'll recognize that that is one liter of coke of coca cola now I've got some notes over here, which I've made earlier prior planning and preparation prevents right Okay, so coca cola in in a in a liter of coke. There is 108 grams of sugar So if I were to drink that I would be consuming 108 grams of sugar So I don't have JD and coke anymore. No whiskey and coke or anything like that So the coke is completely completely off off limits now for me mainly because of the high high fructose corn syrup. However, I still drink. Now, I'm going to show you a British lager we have here. It's called Carling. Okay. Now, that's a 440 milliliter can. And I did, I did the math and in a a liter of Carling, if I drink a liter of Carling, I'll be consuming 26 grams of carbs, but zero sugars. So, the carbs but there's not the, the devil incarnate, which is fructose in there. And that's illegal. That's yeah, that's drinking. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So and then if I'm eating sometimes I will drink the wine known as Sauvignon Blanc. Oh yeah, I drink some wine. Yeah. It's a very dry white wine. The dryer, as you know, the better the dryer it is, the fewer sugars there are. And in a liter of Sauvignon Blanc, you will find 23 grams of carbohydrate, about six grams of sugar. So, it's, it's not, you know, the, the calling is my go to pub drink, if you like, the Sauvignon Blanc is for special occasions and when I sit down for dinner with my wife. Again, now, obviously, ethanol is a problem, there's no question about that, but my liver's fine. So my theory, I think I told you, is that basically, ethanol is a problem when it's competing with fructose in the liver. If you eliminate the fructose, then the liver seems to have no problems with the ethanol, it just processes it and gets rid of it. But if you overload with fructose as well, through fruits, through any of the any of the sucrose containing foods, and, you know, especially the Coca Cola's, then the liver gets confused, it gets overwhelmed, basically. It's like a it's like if you've got a defensive circle out in the field, and you get overpowered by the enemy, there are just too many of them. then you get overrun. But if, if you, if the enemy come, come in, you know, a few at a time, hell, hell, you can deal with it. It's like John Wayne, John Wayne circling the wagons and the Indians coming in, right? Absolutely. Yeah. So as long as, you know, as long as there aren't too many of them in this case, ethanol and fructose, then the liver can circle the wagons and successfully fight it off. But to me, my social life is very important because I like to enjoy life. You know, I was in the pub with my, with my veteran buddy yesterday. Yeah. So but as I said, if, if I found that it wasn't working and then I would take measures, but at the moment I am, I am, I'm flying. I really am health wise. So yeah, so that's, so we touched on the, the coffee and the alcohol and just one other little little naughty, which I have, as you know, I'm a limey. So this is the, the lime juice cordial. And I have very, no, very I just flavor water with it. It's not really, and there's just a tiny amount of sugar in there, but it doesn't trigger any crave, any cravings for me. So I I started my career in the Navy. I don't know if I told you this I was on fast attack submarines from 84 to 90 and I actually served with some Brits We we hosted a submarine that came in in the 80s And we had a great time because those guys have alcohol on their submarine and we didn't but we had some good times But I think the term limey actually came from the Royal Navy, correct? When they would eat limes to prevent scurvy. That is correct. And there's another interesting I've done a bit of research here, but apparently We have what's called forgotten knowledge. Apparently prior to the lines, they fresh meat was regarded as a cure for scurvy. Really? That makes sense because I don't have scurvy. You don't look like you have scurvy. No, absolutely not. Look it up on the internet. Google fresh meat, fresh meat and scurvy, and you will find that actually, before the line, the the problem that, the problem that these sailors had is they were eating basically jerky or, you know, they were eating preserved meat. And they were eating, yeah, they were eating hard sang. So any vitamin C that was in, that was processed out of it. Interesting. But fresh before the lime juice was discovered, fresh meat was, was known to be a, a cure for, for scurvy. So interesting. You know, this is the, the, the vitamin C que question mark is the, is the, the elephant and the rim when it comes to carnival. But I'm happy with that. Yeah, you're happy with it. Anthony, Kelly, Kelly Hogan's been kind of all forever. And she's, she doesn't exactly look older and burger, burger patty carnivore, like the worst. You could think the dirtiest carnivore, like McDonald's burger patties is her go to. So, and I do that sometimes. So you do have to, as part of being your own advocate too, I think is learning your body and doing introspection and, and cause everyone's body's different. So not just learning carnivore, but learning you and how your hunger signals work and what things are triggers and one art. And that's part of. Honing your skill and craft as a carnivore, just like you do in your career. You have to become better at it. So I got next question. How has it affected your physical health? Oh, crikey. Unbelievably. It really is. Okay. So again, I'm going to go to my notes. I got my diagnosis in early part of March, 2022. Death Moran told me about carbohydrates then as in starches. So the first thing I did went away and cut out all the C's and the P's We'll go for cakes, chocolate, confectionery, in other words, candy, to use the American term. Chips, chips, as in... Crisps. Yeah, yeah, exactly, crisps, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. But also, chips, as in fried potato. So, for the benefit of our American viewers potato chips in the States are crisps here in the UK, and french fries are chips here in the UK. So there you all went, and then we move on to the peas. So pastry, pasta, pizza, potato. That's for the peas and we can add on rice and noodles. So that's the first thing I did now. I wasn't, you know, I was, I was feeling my way blindly. So that was very beginning of March and then in March 21st, which is 2022, which I think exactly a year ahead of you. I think you must 22nd, if I'm right. Yep. March 22nd. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I'm exactly a year ahead of you because that's why I started taking it seriously. So I bought a set of scales. So just yeah, in one, when I got measured, when I got weighed at the beginning of March 2022, I weighed in at 133 kilos which was, take off a kilo for clothes, 132 got the Transcript. Yeah, 291 pounds. Oh wow. Now, when I bought a set of scales on March 21st, so three weeks later, having cut out all the above mentions to begin with, I was 278 pounds. So, without even trying, other than cutting out the bread, the pasta, the pizza, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I lost 37 pounds without, without really taking it seriously. But I do remember that I was watching a sports event in the pub And on about March 11th, I think it was, and when the guys wanted to get a packet of crisps, instead I had a packet of pork scratchings, pork, I think pork rinds you call them. Pork rinds, yeah. And I had a, and I had a a jar of cockles pickled cockles, so seafood and pork rinds. So just to, again, there'll be a few show and tellers doing this, so here we have the Mr Porky Pork Scratchings. Nice. They are the standard, standard pub type, they are 16, 16 grams of pork rinds, pork scratchings. Per point, one of a gram of carbohydrate versus a packet of potato crisp chips which is about, I think, 23 grams or thereabouts. So that was a replacement therapy, which I did. And, and it works, and I still do eat the the Mr. Porky pork scratchings as, as a as a treat if you like, or as a snack. So, but then by July I was feeling so much better and that I, I thought, well, I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna ask for another set of bloods, which I did. And that was August the fourth when I weighed 238 pounds by this time. So, so from basically March the fifth until August the fourth. So I think we, I think we're talking probably five months. I've gone from two nine one to two through eight pounds. So I went in fairly confident, had all my bloods done, had a routine appointment books, phone call on August the 22nd. With my diabetes nurse guy called Richard. But I'm also nice. I got an urgent phone call from my surgery from Sandra, the head diabetes. And I was worried. I thought I've really made a mistake here in this. She's going to tell me a new one. And I thought, I said, Oh no, should I be worried? No, she's no, no, no, no. She said quite the opposite. She said, what have you done? So I said, what do you mean? She said, you haven't got diabetes anymore. She said, you've you've lost, you know, however many pounds that is and not only that she said, but your triglycerides have gone from 4. 7 to 1. 2 and your HDL has gone through the roof. She said, Oh, your LDL has gone up as well. She said, but don't worry about that because we're, we're forward thinking and we only worry about the HDL to triglycerides rate ratio. So it's nice to have a forward thinking diabetes team. So she just, she said, how did you do it? I said, well, I've just got a low carb. I just virtually eliminated carbohydrates and like that, but remember this time, I never even heard a carnivore. I was still very much focused on ketosis, but I still, you know, make, I was still making mistakes. Like I was eating citrus fruits. That's all the thing for sweet, sweet citrus fruits. But I'd already achieved the, like the main goal of getting rid of diabetes, losing a lot of weight, and especially getting rid of the dangerous triglyceride levels. So by that point, I was no longer a hard sack waiting to happen. And then in that same month it would have been between August 4th and August 22nd when my regular diabetes nurse phoned me up for the appointment, he said, he said, I'm not supposed to be doing this. He said, because he said, I just want to know, I want to know what you did with him. But I remember by this time, so I remember telling him I discovered YouTube. Now the first thing that I discovered on YouTube was the angelic, and late, and much lamented Dr. Sarah Hallberg. Do you, do you know Dr. Sarah? I don't know, I'll take a look. Ah, crikey man, you've got to, you have to. Go on go on YouTube and put Dr. Sarah Hallberg reversing type 2 diabetes starts with ignoring the guidelines. It's a TEDx talk. So basically, Sarah, who unfortunately died of metastatic cancer, I think in 2022 last year in April. That was obviously not, there's no way she could blame her, her, her diabetes. She was just unlucky. But this TEDx talk was in 2015, and it's 18 minutes and 6 seconds, which basically turned my life around. And it's, well, anybody out there, anybody who hasn't seen it... Get on there and watch it. Reversing the guidelines Reversing type 2 diabetes starts to ruin the guidelines. So she's basically a rebel. And that reversing type 2 diabetes was quite common. But by that time, I'd already done it myself. I'd already cheated myself. I've got friends that have type 2 diabetes. I can't wait till they see this video, because I tell them about this, and that I know that actually reversed it. That's great. Yeah. She's a very very powerful speaker. She's gotta miss, we miss her so much in the local community and believe me when you see her, you'll, you'll understand why. So make sure we watch that today. And make sure, make sure we share it amongst, amongst your Type 2 Diabetes friends as well. I'll find it, put a link in the description for this video so then basically, so we've worked, the, the key people were really the hairy bikers. We talked about Professor Roy Taylor, who was low, low calorie. My workmate max Branford nurse cath Moran Ben Healthline. And then in August 22, I discovered Dr. Sarah Hallberg. And at the same time, I dis discovered Dr. Jason Fun, and it is through him that I understood incident resistance. He explained in incident resistance very, very well. And then from the uk a guy that you are familiar with, Dr. David Unwin. Yeah, he's, he's, he's nowhere near Carnival, but he's, he's very much a low carb advocate. And then the absolutely adorable. So we Harkin PhD from Cardiff university. She's so funny. If you haven't watched any of this stuff, I've asked you to watch these two because she is, she's hilarious. She really is. My two favorites of hers are, should we be vegan? And as she comes on, the short answer is the requirement for carbohydrates is zero in the diet. Therefore, no, we shouldn't be vegan. But she goes on to speak for 45 minutes and she tears apart the vegan case about the planet, about being kind to animals, and about health. Well worth watching. And the other one is what about fiber? And again, she, she and Jesus saying, right, fiber is all carbohydrate. Carbohydrate requirements in the human diet. Zero. Therefore, no, we don't need fiber. But she goes on to explain how how dangerous fiber is. And actually now we're touching on the subject of fiber, I can say that when I finally got around to eliminating all the cruciferous, the green low carb vegetables from my diet, guess what happens? My IBS went away. No more, no more constipation, no more flatulence, no more straining on the toilet, no more straining on the toilet. Amazing. You're not fermenting stuff in your gut. Exactly. No more fermentation. And so basically you know, I can tell you now that I've Yes, just this week I decided to actually sort of start recording my my bowel movements and Monday morning there was one and there wasn't another one until Saturday morning. So five eight and Absolutely It's not conservation because when the time comes, you say, Oh, I need to go to the, to go and use the bathroom and you go and it's all over in about five minutes as opposed to straight sitting there straining for 20 minutes when you've been eating all that so called healthy fiber. So yeah, so that's my take on fiber and that was eliminating fiber is, was one of the big things. Once you understand that fiber is just stuff you can't digest, then why would you eat it? And it's like Anthony Chafee says, why not just eat plastic bags? Because it does the same thing. You can't digest it. It fills you up. And yeah, I said, I feel, I feel very resentful that far because I'm fortunate. All Australian was taught over the years is that I've got a hernia now, so that but you know, I can manage it. But I just think that if I discovered carnival when I was 16 instead of 56, that turning it probably never would have come. It doesn't really interfere with my life too much. I'm just aware of it. You know, I can't do any heavy lifting or anything, but. I don't see my, I, I don't do much exercise, but I'm doing well. Oh, I don't either. My son is 14 and he's gone carnivore and this summer he went, 'cause he wanted to heal an injury. He saw me healing up and he wanted to heal his foot. Well, he just knocked, he shaved two minutes off his personal record in his first two races and beat guys. He's never beat and he's 10 pounds lighter and just looks, I mean, he looks great. And I'm like, well, there you go. So he's totally a hundred percent sold. Now he is like, all right, I can't imagine being 14 and finding this. Cause he's got his whole life. I would have been a beast. I was good at golf. I would have been a beast on the rugby pitch, right? Exactly. I feel the same way. Actually, in the vegan episode from Zoe Harkin, she flags up an Australian athlete who is the poster girl of the vegan movement. And apparently she is like the best in Australia. But at the Olympics, she finished 24th. So Zoe asked a question, what were the other 23 in front of her or anything? So, so that was a, that was a simple Zoe Zoe comment. So yeah, so that's Fibergon. And the other thing I really need to touch on is seed oils. Like yourself, when I discovered about seed oils, I threw them out. I did not give them to the local charity or anything. They went straight in the bin. So now my frying is done in lard. Or what we call in this country beef dripping. I think tallow is the, the other name for it is all done. And one thing which I do is I use, I, I use it fairly sparingly, but when I fry my eggs, I usually have three eggs on hand, for example, instead of taking the scooping the eggs out with a slice, I just pull, pull the whole contents of the frying pan onto the plate. So I get all the liquid lard or liquid beef dripping as well, which adds flavor to the meal and and also healthy fat. Yeah. I'm getting the benefit of it. Saturated fat. Exactly right. Anyway, so to go back to where we were, right. So, we'll touch on mental health in a minute. Okay. But the the weight loss really has progressed since so March 2022 291 pounds this morning. I weighed in. I weigh in every day. I'm a bit obsessive compulsive about it and this morning, I saw it. I saw a new low 201 pounds. So, I've lost 90 pounds, 90 pounds in 18 months. And again, I'm far from being a perfect carnival, so Yeah. But it, but it's working for me. It's working for me. I dunno if you've seen Dr. Kenobi, Chris Kenobi's seed oil video I'm aware of. Yeah, I'm aware of that, that one. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. He, after seeing that, I'm pretty much convinced that the, the processed foods of sugar, refined wheat seed oils and tr and trans fats are the 99% of the problem. And if you just remove those from your diet, Yeah, you would be, you'd be well on your way to a very healthy lifestyle. Now, carnivore just is icing on the cake. It basically finishes it and gets you to the optimum, not just being healthy, but optimum fuel, I think. Absolutely. I mean, they, because of, because of the alcohol and some of the the, the processed meat products, I eat, I'm not, I'm not in that optimal, optimal space. However, as you can see from my my progress, I'm. I'm where I want to be. And I'll be posting those pictures when I edit this. So they'll they'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. In fact the, the, the after picture was taken in June of this year. When I was 210 pounds, so I've lost a further nine pounds since since the after picture was taken. So yeah. So 90, 90 pounds, 18 months, not perfect carnival. I'm happy with that, Larry. I'm happy with that. Oh yeah. Yeah, I think probably if I, if I sneak in a cheeky 36 hour fast next week, I reckon I can drop below 200, 200 pounds for the, for the first time you know, for the first time, well, probably since I went up to the Himalayas in, in the year 2000, so 23 years ago about 195 pounds or thereabouts after spending three weeks in the Himalayas, so. That was the lowest weight. I'm the lowest weight. I've been since the nineties. Uh, yeah. Yeah. When I came back in the military, I was two 40 and I'm at two 34 right now. So lost 46 pounds. Yeah, I was at two 80. And when I was at two 80, I couldn't put, I had to sit down to tie my shoes. I couldn't literally tie my shoes. You know, my gut is too big. Yeah. Terrible. So yeah. So this time last year, as I said, so you're six months in. I was 291 to 238. So say, say, say 230 by September. Yeah, 60 at that time. Yeah, I probably, I probably, because I'm 5'10 to actually lose than you did when you started. So I think you were 6'2. 5 Yeah, 6'2. 5 yeah. Yeah, yeah, so I probably had more. So I was 60 down, you were 46 down. So I've had another third of that. So if you add another third to yours, you're probably looking at at least 70 by the time you reach the 18 month point there. Yeah, I think 225, 225 is my playing weight and I'd like to get back to that. If I get down to 225, so that's not even, you know, because I've still got a lot of muscle too. And I stayed in till 2019. So I was still in pretty good shape most of my life till I was 52, 53. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you're not far off target, you know, you're you're on target and your goal is is reachable now, which is good Yeah, that's for sure. You know, hopefully that you know, you people like you and I will be what do you call it inspiration? Leaders by example for that's the idea for the people for the people that are watching this And we just got to get the message out there, Larry. There's, as, as you said on your how to get into the fight video, we have very, very powerful forces aligned against us. Big pharma, big food, the medical industry, because the medical industry gets funded by big pharma, but by big food and even the the diabetic associations remove that, remove diabetes. You, you, you remove their reason for existence. They're out of business. And the heart association and these cancer organizations. You know, you start cutting down on cancer and heart attacks and diabetes and they're all going out of business. Yeah, that's So it's up to us us youtubers To all band together and let's not let's not Go so cult carnival that we forget the local community as well of the people like dr. David unwin. We wish you know, we're Yeah, we also, we're all low carb high fat. I'm actually been in contact with a, with a a doctor called Campbell Murdoch. He's on the, he's out there on the YouTube as well recently. He is a low carb doctor, but he's, he doesn't, again, he's, he's worried about excluding people. So he's talking about, he talks about metic, metabolic health recording regimes he's, he, he wants to call it metabolic health nutrition. Because he's afraid of scaring people away. You'll find Campbell Murdoch out there. He's done a couple of YouTubes. So, yeah, if you want to have a look at him, he's a local doctor to me, and I've been in contact with him. So, that's, that's quite interesting. But he's from the low carb community. Right. Right. Well, having that it's any change in mental health. Oh yeah. You wouldn't believe it when you don't feel good about yourself. I would actually, I would believe it. Yeah, I know you would. Absolutely. But no, when you're feeling ill, when you've got skin problems, when you can, when you, when you feel ugly, when you can't do your shoelaces up when you've got shooting pains going up through your thighs, every time you put your foot down when you can't really walk anymore, you don't feel good about yourself. However, yeah. As you get into ketosis straight carnival, the weight comes off, you go back to the doctor and they tell you you haven't got type two diabetes anymore. They tell you that you you know, you basically, your mood becomes boring. But not only that, I used to be a real stressed person, even the little things would stress me like driving. Oh God, that was an absolute nightmare. But nowadays, I just take my time, I put on a bit of music and I'm not. I just don't stress like I used to. Nothing seemed to faze me like it used to. I've walked out of jobs lost friendships because I was, my mental health was very I was blaming Gulf War Syndrome. But it wasn't, it was Metabolic Syndrome. And the two if you look up the symptoms of Metabolic, sorry, Gulf War Syndrome, you will find that they are the same, they're the same as Metabolic Syndrome. So yeah, so my mental health, I'm sleeping better. No, when I was at my worst, my bladder was waking up every hour and a half, every night. So you can imagine that when you're short of sleep, that adds to your stress as well. So yeah. That's my next question. Yeah. Go on. Sleep. Go on. That's fine. Well, I think I just answered it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sleeping far better now because my bladder doesn't wake me up every hour and a half anymore. I still have to get up for the old man's bathroom visit once a night, but that's a lot different from four or five times a night, so I think that covers sleep. Yeah. So, I mean I tell people now that a lot of people focus on the weight loss cause it's dramatic and it's quick and it's amazing, but there's another weight that weighs in on first responders and especially military veterans. And it's just the unseen weight. And it's probably all civilians, but you know, we have a little more, I think just cause our nature of our, our business. And when that weight comes off your shoulders, it's amazing. That's almost better than the weight loss. The weight loss is huge, but yeah, the weight loss is obviously good for your health. But I would say it's also kind of what's cosmetic it's kind of a vanity thing. It's far more important what's going on in your body. You know, obviously the, it's, it is the, the visual expression of, of getting better health. And actually another important thing to talk about weight loss is that it gets other people interested because people, people don't notice. That your triglycerides are low. They don't notice that you haven't got type 2 diabetes anymore. What they do notice is the fact that you're disappearing before their eyes, and they're interested. And they want to talk about it because a lot of people are slightly overweight, nothing like I was, but how did you do it? How did you, why did you do it? How did you do it? So I've become a bit of a carnival boar in the pub to be honest with you, my wife can't stand it because she hears it all, she hears it all the time, she says, you're part of a cult, and I say no we're not a cult, we're a community, because we're a community of like minded people. If we were a cult, then we'd all worship Dr. Anthony Chafee and we'd all be on the line. It's a brotherhood, like the military. It is. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But don't forget the sisters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I include sisters in that. Absolutely, because we have to include Kelly, because she's Kelly Hogan, because she's one of the one of the leaning proponents of carnival, so yeah. Yeah, so we're a sorority fraternity brotherhood sisterhood. Community, I think, is the word which catches it. Yeah, she it nicely. Okay, so yeah, there we go. So, so let's go to motivation. How do you stay motivated to stay on this diet? Isn't it hard you find it restrictive, right?, right? Yeah, I know. Okay, so people ask me, they say, what do you miss? I say, I miss ice cream. I miss chocolate, I miss cake. I Ms. Cook. I Ms. Rice. I miss spaghetti bolan. Oh God, I love spaghetti bolognese. Hell, I love Marmite on toast, but, And but then they go, well, how do you do it? And I say, well, what I don't miss is six and a half stone as we call it in England or 90 pounds of extra fat. I don't miss feeling like shit every day. Yeah. Crap every day. It's okay. Yeah. Okay. This is usually not the BBC. Yeah. And I certainly don't miss being a heart attack waiting to happen. And I certainly don't miss having high triglycerides in my blood. And yeah, so yes. I think you've you've touched on this. The carnival solution to type two diabetes is simple. It is so simple. It's unbelievable. But what it's not is easy because if you're addicted to carbohydrates, it's a bit like you know, I've been able to give up carbohydrates mostly, but if you just asked me to give up alcohol, that'd be a step too far for me. So, but for many carb, carb addicts, it's already a step too far for them. You know, it's the, they still, they still carry on that. They, they know about carnival. They want to have the success, but they love their carbohydrates, you know, it's like when we went out for lunch yesterday and everybody had the puddings, you know, creme brulees and the lemon meringue pies and that sort of thing. And I sat there with my black coffee, you know, but I, yeah, I, I could easily have eaten that, but I didn't want to because it's just, it's just not worth it. And I don't, you know, I don't suffer the cravings anymore like I used to. It's strange. I think the palate or the tongue has about five different taste triggers, salt, sweet, sour, something else. I think it's fine. But when you're a carb addict all the time, it's you can taste the sweetness in your mouth. But now if I get cravings, it's the salt part of my tongue, not part of my palate, which was triggers. I went, I want salt. So the pork scratchings, for example, or fried eggs, and I put extra salt on the fried eggs. That seems to satisfy my cravings now more than, you know, more than I don't have any chocolate cravings anymore. Going through keto. I weaned myself off chocolate. I went through the 85 percent dark chocolate, 85 percent cocoa dark chocolate, not anymore. I just, I just don't need it anymore. But I am actually quite glad that and again, if you've got any new people who are just interested in just starting out, then there's nothing wrong with doing what I did, which is go, which is weaning yourself through keto and gradually eliminating stuff until you get to carnival. Because remember when I reversed type two diabetes, I'd never even heard of carnival. I'd only heard of ketosis. So, don't, so, so anybody who wants to to become a carnival don't be afraid to go through ketosis first. Just count the carbs, gradually eliminate the the, the bad stuff, obviously immediately eliminate the sugars as in the, the, the, the, what we went through earlier, the, the seeds and the pieces as I call it. But if you want to vegetables, et cetera, et cetera, it worked for me. So, yeah. Stick the whole foods. Eliminate the processed foods. Exactly. And that's really 90% of it. Absolutely. And bring yourself through ketosis to Carnival. If you try and jump into Carnival straightaway, you might suffer, what is it? The explosive diarrhea, which I think Joe Rogan talk about. I did. And all those. Yeah, exactly. You see, I, you see, I never did because I, I, I, I, I graduated onto carnival rather than jumping. Mm-hmm. rather than, rather than jumping straight in. And like I said, I'm far from a perfect carnival now, I dunno. Go through what I eat, but we can do it. And I, you know, if people want to know the details of my diet, then we can do that. I've got a show and tell if you want to do that, you're prepared. Yeah, I like it. I mean, yeah, I think the the, for me, because I'd been keto before and I'd cycled on and off that during my military career to get ready for my record physical tests and such, you know, to make sure I was trim and performing the best. But I knew that every time I did keto, I always planned to stay on it forever, but then I always fell off because I introduced keto foods that triggered me because they're called keto or, you know, they'd have, they were processed foods and they were just called keto. And I, and after a while I realized, so when I did this, I realized that I wasn't going to be able to reintroduce things like that. I'm just going to, for me, I'm going to have to stay strict, which is fine because I don't miss it at all anymore. Absolutely. It's great. So like I said, you have to, it's self discovery too. So, you know, so for some people going weaning off, I've heard people that just switch meals out. They, first they get rid of all the processed foods, go to whole foods, and then like maybe have breakfast, just be all carnivore, right? It's just meat and eggs and then breakfast and lunch all carnivore and then breakfast, lunch and dinner and kind of progress that way. And slowly change that gut microbiome over for me. It was, it was murder. I just murdered the old gut microbiome and brought in all the, all the meats and just suffered through it. But it was worth it because I was done in two weeks, right? And in two weeks I was a hundred percent. I was like, all right, I'm back. And my energy started to come back quick. So it just depends on what you want to do. And you have to know your body. If you don't know your body, you can try one way. If you find yourself failing too much. Go the other way, you know, go burn your ships like Cortez did and go a hundred percent That's interesting. You say that you're back because reminds me I was working with a fellow veteran in 2022 before You know when I was up to 290 pounds, whatever it was And I saw him for the first time the other day and the first word he said to me was you're back He looked at me. He looked at the new me. He said you're back. You're back. You're back like you were right Exactly. That's right. Yeah. So that's quite a good site. Yeah. I'm back. You know, when it comes on mental health, yeah, my physical, I'm back. I think that's, yeah, that's a huge deal because also the mental health things like now I look forward to my future and I look forward to it. I'm just like, I'm not just living days out. I'm planning. I'm like, man, this is a great life going forward from this point forward. It's looking amazing to me. And when I was six months ago, before I started this, I was not looking forward to anything. I was just surviving day to day. I was kind of existing and now I'm not, no longer existing. I'm planning, I'm driving, I'm going forward and it's night and day for me. Yeah. Again, the when I was worried about gulf war syndrome, I thought that I didn't have a future really. And I was really, I was trying to get a diagnosis because I, I still want a mortgage on the house. So I still want to pay that. And I was really worried that I was soon going to be unable to work, but now I am fully able to work again. I can't do heavy lifting because of the hernia, but traffic management doesn't involve heavy lifting. But I can walk around site now easily. At the moment I have to, to manage two sets of incoming lorries trucks with, which are delivering stone and they're about a quarter of a mile apart. So I've got to keep fleeing between. So I've got to walk quarter mile there, quarter mile back. So I'm probably doing five, six, six. Yeah. I'm getting my steps in every day. There's no question about it. Back in March 2022, I would not have been able to do that, but I can, I can do now. Yeah, my knees are still a bit stiff, but that's probably what you call vet Yeah, vet bod, yeah. Exactly, yeah. I got some of that. Yeah, but everything else in my body has come back apart from my knees, but they're nothing like as bad as they were 18 months ago. Hey, why don't you go through and show me some of your food? Okay, so right. Let's do show and tell. Yeah, let's do show and tell. So, right, this is Monday to Friday. Okay this is what I take to work. I work Monday to Friday in construction. The weekends things vary up a little bit, but Monday to Friday I, I'm in what you call a routine. My, my system. So, the first thing is, right, I've just been to Aldi this morning, so I've, I've got everything fresh and ready to show and tell. Okay. So, the first thing that my go to for the girls. Okay. I have one of these every day at work. Monday to Friday. So there's five, five or six chicken thighs in there pre cooked. So I don't have to bother with I can, I can either microwave and work and hot or I can eat them cold. Secondly well we'll go to everybody's go to standard, which is eggs, basically. I mean, I don't really show you the below. Right. So on a Sunday, and I will be doing this a bit later on. I hard boil 15 eggs. So that's three a day. Monday to Friday. The, the, my method of doing that is put them in cold water, bring them to a rolling boil for one minute, switching the heat off and then leave them overnight to cool down. And then you get the perfect life on the perfect hard boiled egg. Just a little tip for the listeners there. Nice. Now, the next one is not everybody's cup of tea, but it is very much mine and it's vitally important in my view. I have here smoked mackerel fillets. Okay, they're low carb and absolutely full of omega 3. Omega 3 being the really good polyunsaturated fatty acid. Now, there's a packet of four there, so I have two of those every day with my lunch. The other thing I should explain is that I is that I tend to eat in the mornings at work, so I wait between about 8 o'clock in the morning and 1 o'clock in the afternoon. Also at work, I have so eggs, chicken, right? This is the most controversial. This is a bit naughty and I'm sure some of our purists will not like me for doing this. These are called Frickadamon. These, they're Frickadamon. They're German meatballs. Now, these are 81 81 percent fat pork, 81 percent pork and get my notes. They contain 21 grams of fat for each one of those. I have one of those, but there are some noughties in there as well. For example, there's 6 percent onion, 5 percent breadcrumbs, and there's a bit of Komodo oil in there as well. But on balance, you know, I've already eaten the Omega three with the smoked mackerel. So that little bit of Omega 6, you know, I don't think it's going to do too much damage because my Omega 3 to Omega 6 ratio is going to be very, very good. And yeah, they're satisfying. 81 percent pork, 21 grams of fat. So I just ignore the few naughties that are in there. I eat some processed meats too. I eat beef sticks that are organic, 100 percent grass fed, grass finished, but they do have some bad stuff in it. So yeah, you have to. Right. And then basically that's why you work. If I'm hungry in the evenings, my go to is good old Audi cooked ham trimmings. Okay. So what I do then is if I'm hungry, I might just have a, literally a couple of slices straight out of the fridge. If I actually feel like I want a meal, I will have, I will lay out the few ham slices on on a plate, fry off three eggs or scramble three eggs. And have those over the top though. So that we might my evening meal. So Monday to Friday, that is pretty much all I eat apart from maybe the occasional packet of pork scratchings. That's if I get home in the evening, I'm really not hungry, but I fancy something salty and I'll have a packet of pork scratchings. So that's my Monday to Friday. At the weekend the weekend I've got a bit more time. So I'll fry some bacon for breakfast, for example, with scrambled eggs. Might put a sausage on there. And then Saturday afternoon in the summer, we often have a barbecue, which I think we talked about. So that's when the beef kicks in the pork and the lamb kicks in and I usually allow myself up to half and half a raw onion because I do like the flavor of running. As we know, running is very low carb anyway, not, not particularly high in fiber. And then on a Sunday again, I'll have a fried fried breakfast as in bacon and eggs. And in the afternoons, myself and my wife Lainey will have a special cut of meat. So it might be beef, it might be lamb, it might be a duck. I think this afternoon we've got pork chops. Premium meat. Premium meat. That, yeah. Sundays is my, Sundays is my premium meat day. Although of course, sometimes that will actually go back in the fridge. So I will have some premium meats to take on a Monday and Tuesday to work. So, that's my that's my week Monday, Monday to Friday. I'm carnival pure. Well, not exactly pure carnival because I process meat but I'm pretty much completely carnival. The the other thing to touch on is social events. Now, I'm very mindful of where I go. There is a brilliant pub up the road called the malt shovel which serves a kilogram of chicken wings. So, that's a perfect carnival solution. And when I go to the local circus restaurant, I order off the starter menu. So I order two or three meat starters and that comes with a little bit of salad garnish, which I just polish up because it's just time. And I don't want to be rude and send it back and again, it has no, it has no deleterious effect. So that's no problem. And I think we touched on the subject of Christmas. Now I'm going to a friend's house this year. And they know that I'm carnivore now, so they they will only be serving me the turkey. They will not tempt me with the roast potatoes. I wouldn't be tempted anyway. But I think I mentioned to you something called pigs in blankets? Oh yeah, I have pigs in blankets. Yeah. You do? Is it a thing in the States? Yeah, where you get a pastry and roll it around a little hot dog or a little sausage. No, it's not a pastry. No, it's not a pastry. That's a sausage roll in this country. Okay, so I've got... Okay, what's pig in blanket there? Pigs in blankets. I don't know if you can... Oh, bacon! Bacon wraps around a sausage. Exactly. Yeah, that's better than ours. Absolutely. Yeah. So anyway, I can re so if you if you want to bring these pigs in blankets stateside and maybe you and I can go into business and we can, and we can get it going. Yeah. So this year that our hostess Annie has said, yeah, you'll be getting the turkey and you'll be getting a double portion of pigs in blankets with the gravy. So that's, that's awesome. That's how I'm dealing with the social side of things. But see, the fact that you're planning ahead, that is a huge deal. And a lot of people just let life happen. They just show up hungry and then they fail because they didn't, you know, plan ahead before that. And also my wife, Lainey, is doing the starter this year. She's doing prawn cocktail, but I'm just going to have prawns with a bit of salt and vinegar on them. Yeah, that's good. The cocktail salt. And then I think Glen's doing the, Glen, my buddy, who I told you about yesterday, I think he's doing the dessert. But I've I said I will take a cheese ball. So we're taking some cheddar, some silken and some French Yeah, cheese is low carb, basically Yeah, I do eat cheese at the weekend because every Sunday after this I'll be going out to meet my friends at the pub and Mike our landlord always puts a bit of stilt and a bit of cheddar out on the bar and I don't mind eating that Again, it's low carb, it's dairy It kind of I do some cheese. I mean, last night I made ice cream. My sister and brother in law came over. And I made some ice cream with egg yolk and heavy whipping cream in my ice cream machine. And just a little bit of vanilla. No sweetener. And it was great. I mean, you know, once you've been off sugars for a long time, that's sweet enough, really. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Just quick point for our, our UK listeners, heavy whipping cream translates to double cream in this country.. Yeah. So, so yeah. So I thank you UK. Thank, and you. Yeah. I'm, I'm having to do, I do, as you know, it's in my email here. I do a little bit. I a little bit of translation for Well you're, you're a I could tell you're an Intel guy 'cause you're, you're very detailed on that, which is good. I worked in the skiff a little bit too. I mean, I, I was a signal guy, but I did work with our Intel a lot. So, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So we have a, we have a say in the British army attention to detail. Yep. We had the same in ours. Yeah, absolutely. So last question we got, I want to give you the floor. What would you recommend? Well, would you recommend a carnivore diet due to to other military veterans or first responders? And if so, what advice would you give them on starting? Well, firstly, definitely, I would, I would recommend it. And I think, you know, just this conversation, we've actually covered that because I've explained in detail how in 18 months I went through knowing nothing and then stumbling my way in the dark with a few helping hands from people like Max and Kathy Moran and Healthline. They, they, they do some good keto stuff. And I think To be honest, you know, rather than trying to jump in head first, feet first into carnival. I think I was quite lucky not to hear about carnival until August of last year because it meant that I kind of went through an elimination phase of ketosis. So I think I was much more mentally and physically prepared for carnival when it came than what I would have been. And I thought, Oh yeah, carnival. I'm just going to jump straight into that because you know, I went through the phase of eating 85 percent chocolate. I went through avocados. Asparagus, olives, and all of those sort of stuff. So I gradually, I, I literally weaned myself off off carbohydrates until eventually, I'll say Christmas day last year, I realized I didn't, I didn't, I don't think I made a conscious decision to go, I'm now a carnivore. I just suddenly realized, I suddenly kind of realized I was a carnivore rather than actually deliberately making that, that decision. I cannot let you do right. That was day one of carnival. I think I can probably I can probably date my carnival experience back nine months now back to christmas day of 2022. So my recommendation is If you want, if you want to follow the chief here, jump in with both feet, do so. But if you want to follow me and gradually wean yourself off, get your, change your mindset. Oh, that's the other thing. I had to completely change my mindset. I had to unlearn everything, all the crap that we've been taught about fiber, about carbohydrates, cholesterol, everything else. And that took time because I kept on, you know, subconsciously I kept on thinking, oh yeah, greens are good for you. Yeah. Carbohydrates, you know, we're supposed to be caught, but it took me a little time to to change my mindset. But my mindset is completely 100 percent changed now. And yeah, so it does take time to change your mindset. Yeah. So my advice would be do it your way. If you want to, if you want to follow Chief Larry here, jump in. If you want to follow me, do it slowly. But you've got to realize that you will, your subconscious, your mindset, what you've been taught will try and slow you down. There's no question about that. You just got to overcome that. I've succeeded. I've succeeded. Here I am. Thank you. 90 pounds down. I wasn't in March of last year. And that was a slow process in terms of going through ketosis to carnival. So yeah, I would say to anybody out there veterans first responders or any of our civilian brothers and sisters. Yeah, just do it. And watch the chief's resilience pro things. Don't be afraid when you fall off the horse. It's not right. It's not the end of the world. If you have an opportunity. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Yeah, it's, you know, If you feel socially obliged to eat cake on your birthday, for example, and you're going to upset somebody, so you do it. Don't beat yourself up about it. Do not beat yourself up about it. Just think, okay, I did that as a favor to somebody else, but tomorrow I'm back on my own foot. I'm back on program. It's simple as that. And again, the other thing I want to talk about is the alcohol. Do not beat yourself up about alcohol. As long as you don't, you're not drinking JD and Coke is all you're drinking. The sweet mixers. If you're drinking low carb beers. I think, I think America's got quite a few of the, the, the lower, lower low carb beers. I don't see the point, but yeah, they do. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know what you mean. Yeah. The Carling is a 3. 7 percent lager here in the UK, but it is the lowest of the carbs. And again, if you're choosing wine, stay away from the sweet wines. I can recommend the grape Sauvignon Blanc as a dry white wine and Pinot Noir as a red dry red wine. Absolutely. Yeah. So yeah, so please folks, if you, if you do enjoy social life, if you socialize, depends on having a drink with friends, do not beat yourself up about it. Look at me. I've achieved it whilst, whilst still carrying on with the good old British tradition of going down the pub. And I'll be going down the pub very, very shortly after this, Larry. So it's now, it's now 20 past 12, my time. Throw them back for me with your buddies here. Yeah. Well it's, it's five o'clock somewhere and it's five o'clock your own time. Yeah. Well it's, it's coming up at 6 22 AM right now and I have actually a maintenance window I have to do at eight. But yeah, George, man, it's been so good talking to you. I really appreciate you taking time outta your day and joining me on this first episode of Mission Carnivores. So you're the inaugural Mission Carnivore Day. Yeah. Sorry, something I wanted, something I want, I wanna say my introduction. I'm so proud that I'm the, the, the first one to be on, on Mission Carnival. You know, I, I discovered you from, from day one, and as you know, I was commenting you by the way, my, I am known as court. Yeah. Corporate Corporate. Good enough reporting for duty chief. So, you see that if you see that on on Larry's comments, call R. D Chief. That is me. That is me reporting for duty basically and II try and I try and find something very useful to say on most things. I must say that I couldn't find anything on the dog food one because I don't have a dog. But when when I find anything about veterans and my experience is there I try and keep it something funny as well. Yeah, that's me basically. Good job. I'm very proud, very proud to be part of your platoon, but I noticed this morning, we're up to 2. 07k. So that's 2000. So yeah, I mean, that's a big, you're, you're, you're, you're now a regimental sergeant major. We're getting a big formation. Yeah, we certainly are. And so once you, once you reach three, three K we're going to hit brigade level. So, and then we go to division. That's right. That's where I ended my career. Yeah. So we're, we're chasing brigade at the moment. So the right year growing, you should hit that. I think. Yeah, I think so. And you know, it's, it's really just about growing so that we can be found by people and that's, you know, by our brothers and sisters out there so they can find this and hopefully connect with us in a way that's meaningful. So anyway, that's all I got. Stay on for a minute after I log off so we can talk and I'm just going to end the recording here. So I got one thing to say to you guys, stay strong and overcome. Carnivore soldier out.