Restoring a US Navy Veteran's Health and Athletic Performance Through the Carnivore Diet

Mission Carnivore Episode 3. A discussion on how the carnivore diet was fundamental in restoring a US Navy veteran's health and athletic performance. His improved cycling performance, and overall physical and mental health through embracing the carnivore diet.

Discussed videos from Dr. Pradip Jamnadas, MD
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I'm a retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer living the carnivore lifestyle since March 22nd, 2023. I lost 30lbs in the first 90 days, and continued my weight loss beyond that losing another 14lbs in the following 60 days. I have become much healthier, both physically and mentally in the process. If you’re seeking a sustainable and effective weight loss method, the carnivore diet might be the answer you’ve been looking for!

Join me as I give a military veteran perspective on the carnivore WOE, find great recipes, learn tips and tricks, review carnivore movies, and gain insight on practical ways to fit the carnivore diet into your life! If you follow me, I'm going to be your "Battle Buddy", setting you up for success!

Prepare to be motivated and inspired as I share my success story, offering valuable tips and insights for anyone ready to embark on their own weight loss journey. Don’t miss out on this incredible transformation – hit that play button and let’s dive into the world of carnivore diet weight loss!

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and am not giving medical advice. This is simply a channel about my experience. Please consult your own physician if you have questions or concerns about nutrition, weight loss, or your conditions.

Transcript

Larry Allhands: 0:02

All right. All right. All right. Carnivore soldier coming at you from Austin, Texas. Today, we have episode three of the series called Mission Carnivore, where we focus on veterans and first responders. And how the carnivore diet has affected them. Today, we have a special guest, retired chief petty officer, David Sonnier from the U S Navy. I'm going to bring him in here and let him introduce himself. Hey, David, can

David Sonnier: 0:27

you hear me? Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

Larry Allhands: 0:31

Like you said, A little bit about yourself, David, just introduce yourself.

David Sonnier: 0:36

All right. My name is David Saunier and like Lawrence said, I am retired Navy was in the Navy from, for 20 years, 1987 to 2007. And then I also worked for DOD for quite a few years until maybe about two years ago, I worked for department of the Navy as a civilian. I was hired as a physical scientist for the Navy and did a lot of hydrographic work with them. And it's also for the Corps of Engineers. I did a lot of hydrographic work for them and retired about two years ago, getting close to two years. I did the minimum amount of time that I needed to do. And decided to take early retirement. But anyway, like a little bit about myself. I mean, I grew up in south Louisiana. grew up in a small town, outside of Lafayette, Louisiana, just to the north of Lafayette. And, I'm a child of the sixties and seventies, you know, I grew. playing from dusk till dawn. Pretty much, you know, after school, we rushed home, did our homework, got on our bikes, pedaled all over the neighborhood. You know, your typical lifestyle of the sixties and seventies,, there was no video games or anything like that. So you didn't I mean, we weren't even allowed in the house if the sun was out and it was nice weather. We, you know, my mom was adamant about us staying outside playing. So, uh, yeah, I, you know, sixties and seven had a great childhood. We we had my dad had a small form, so we ate really well. I mean, we had a lot of beef, a lot of poultry. and then he was also really into cast netting. We had a Rockefeller refuge was not too far away from us. So my dad would go cast netting and catch You know, and a big ice chest full of shrimp, uh, you know, any chance he got. So we ate plenty of seafood and my dad worked offshore. So he worked, in the oil and gas industry all his life and he would come home from his little stints and he'd have all kinds of fish and stuff like that that he'd bring home from, I don't know where he got it. Sometimes, I think they may have been fishing off of some of these rigs or he pick it up at the docks from some of these fishermen coming in, but he usually bring in quite a bit of fish. So. I was, I was really lucky. We ate really well. and you've mentioned it before, but back then there was no fat kids. everybody was skinny. And I was even looking at photos of myself from when I was a little kid into my teenage years. And we were all Lean and skinny. now I did eat junk food. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I ate, but I ate a lot of fish, you know, beef, butter, we ate a lot of good food, but we also ate some junk food. And I guess, you know, one, we were just so young, but we didn't eat a lot of it. You know, we didn't, um, my mom was real strict about, you know, my mom was a stay at home mom. So dad was working, mom was at home and she kind of kept that, that, uh, pantry locked up tight. Yeah. So, you know, you ate, you ate lunch, you went play, came back a couple hours later, you might've been hungry and she might've gave you a little bit of a snack, but it wasn't like just on demand. Like I see it going on now. but yeah, I had a really good, uh, growing up. And then high school, I played a lot of sports. I didn't play football, but I played baseball, some basketball early. So I was really active. Plus, we had two big empty lots next to where I lived. And so there was a lot of pickup football, pickup games of baseball. We I mean, it was just nonstop out there. I started lifting weights in high school. So, got a little bit more muscular, but I was still pretty lean guy. worked for the fire department. I joined the fire department, right out of high school pretty much. And, there were, you know, they were pretty health conscious, you know, they had every, every fire station had a weight room. I continued playing baseball, more like softball once I was with the fire department, but I was very active, you know, and then I joined the Navy in 87. and continued on staying in pretty good shape. You know, throughout most of my naval career, actually, I was in pretty good shape. It wasn't until wasn't until like around the late nineties, I went in for a checkup and there was a physician's assistant. Came back in and said, hey, you're triglycerides are through the roof. And I didn't even know what triglycerides were at the time, you know I want to think I want to say it was close to 700, you know I I need to look it up, but it was really high I remember when I looked at him and I looked at what normal was it was way Beyond that and she was real concerned about that and she didn't prescribe a statin or anything but she just said you need to, you need to lose some weight. Now, I didn't think I was overweight, but I did have a, like, you know, that beer belly. I call it the dad gut, you know, uh, by that point I was married and I had a couple of kids, you know, but I was, still, running quite a bit, in the Navy we do these twice a year PTs. So I would run often enough to be able to pass them, but it wasn't, it wasn't that active, but I was still lifting weights. But anyway, there was something called the sugar busters diet back then. it was actually written by a bunch of doctors in the new Orleans area. I got that book eliminated and basically you eliminated sugar out your diet. You pretty much ate almost everything except something with a lot of sugar. So I did cut down on bread, added sugar, Cokes, that kind of stuff. Be, you know, cut my beers way back and I did, I lost quite a bit of weight. And after. A couple of return visits. My triglycerides were normal. Everything was pretty good. I probably went from about 185 to about 170, you know, then, which was, that was the lightest I had weighed in the Navy, I think. I just kind of stayed on that diet and then I kind of was more Mediterranean diet based too. You know, I was eating a lot of meat, olive oil, salads. I was trying to watch, just try to continue it on. And then, It was probably when I was. In the, around 2002, I was, five years from retirement. I had went in for a checkup and I had high cholesterol, never had high cholesterol problems with him, but the cholesterol was up and the doctor, you know, of course, obviously statins went, you know, take statins. So I took statins and I started actually trying to watch my diet. But no matter what I did, my LDL, my total cholesterol and LDL seemed to stay up no matter how much statins I took, you know, not excessively high, but I'd say like my LDL was maybe one 10, which to him was kind of high. My total cholesterol was probably two 50, which to him was kind of high. and, throughout the rest of my Navy career from 2002 until I retired. I was on statins and I was constantly kind of watching my weight, which is hard to do. Cause I mean, during that time you were, you were like less calories, more working out or, you know, you know, the old paradigm was, you know, eat, you know, eat less, uh, exercise more

Larry Allhands: 7:50

calories in calories out. It

David Sonnier: 7:52

sounds easy, but when you're exercising a lot, you're hungry, you know, it's especially if you're eating. You know, lean this, lean that, low fat this, low fat that. You're not getting that fat. And I think I was, I was probably fell into that trap, you know, so I found it just. I was just walking around hungry all the time and just, but in the back of my mind, well, I'm doing it for a good cause. I'm trying to stay healthy. You know, I used

Larry Allhands: 8:18

to, I used to say that when I was walking around hungry, cause I I've done those starvation diets and they're terrible, terrible idea. And I used to think that when I'm hungry, that's how losing weight feels. That's what I used to think. You know, this is what I was supposed to feel like when I'm losing weight. And that, that's like a, I used to tell myself that's a positive thing cause I'm actually losing weight, but I mean, after being on this thing for six months, I never had to be hungry. It's amazing. And I just slim way

David Sonnier: 8:43

down. Yeah. Now, you know, like I got out of the Navy and, you know, once you're out of the Navy, you don't have to PT anymore. You know, you don't have to watch you anymore. So my weight, there was a slow creep up and, just to not make it too long, by about a year ago, I was probably about maybe a year and a half or so ago, I went to the VA. my weight was like 215. I had never weighed that much and I was stunned because I hadn't weighed myself hardly at all. I didn't even have a scale at home, but I hadn't noticed, my shorts were getting, it was like my pants were getting really hard to butt and things were getting tight. and my gut seemed a lot bigger, my face was fat, man. I sent you some photos. That was one of the things I noticed. I was looking at a photo of myself and I said, look how fat my face is. It didn't even dawn on me that I was that overweight, but for a five foot eight guy, you know, 215 pounds is heavy, especially in most of it's in your gut because, if you looked at like my, my shoulders, arms, my legs, everything looked, you know, okay, but it was just that gut area that skinny inside our fat, you know, what's this, what is it a fatty inside skinny outside kind of thing. Yeah. So, anyway, plus my cholesterol was a lot higher too. My triglycerides were still not that bad and my LDL was still not that bad, but I was just overweight, you know? So I had many years ago, I was an avid cyclist and, this was even before I joined the Navy. I did a lot of cycling and I really liked it. I was getting pretty good at it. I was kind of starting to mess around with racing. but then I joined the Navy, so everything got put on the, pushed off to the side. But anyway, I started cycling again and, I knew I could burn a lot of calories cycling and, I started watching my diet. I started watching what I ate, cutting down on junk food, especially sugar. I lost a little bit of weight, not a lot. And I was surprised. I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm, you know, I'm doing too. I was doing a well over 200 miles a week. And I, it just seemed like the weight wasn't coming off, you know? But I was hungry of course, so I was eating a lot of pasta, you know, a lot of, lot of grains, a lot of bread, oak carb loading. Right. I was still carb loading, and I was a kind of, a bit of a proponent of that because I had read Tim No's book years ago. Right? Yeah. He was the founding father of the carving up. Yeah. He isn't anymore. Matter fact, he ripped the

Larry Allhands: 11:22

chapters out and republished it.

David Sonnier: 11:25

Yeah. And, everything else in his book was fantastic except the diet part. He admits now he got it wrong, but, anyway, good for him. Right? He, I, I started looking. I, you know, I, I'm a, I'm always on YouTube and one day I just did a search for, I was thinking it was like, it was either weight loss or whatever, but I came across a video. The very first video I came across was Dr. Berg. and it was on. Keto, and I, you know, started reading about keto and that started the rabbit hole, you know, yeah You see all these suggested ones and it started Kent Baker. Dr. Chafee. Dr. Ken Barry, And then I came across the ones that really helped me out to get me really going was the low carb down under series

Larry Allhands: 12:14

With dr. Chafee.

David Sonnier: 12:16

He was on there and uh, there was a doctor Uh, Dr. Paul Mason was one of the

Larry Allhands: 12:24

right. Oh,

David Sonnier: 12:25

that guy's great. He did an excellent presentation on L. D. L. Yes. How a guy got denied from insurance. Well, I really got hooked on this whole thing. I saw Dr Jordan Peterson's interview about him being on the corner board died. Not really. I said, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna start this. This was in January of 2020 January 20 uh, three. So just a, just a few months ago, I was probably about two Oh, maybe two Oh nine in January, two Oh seven. And I said, all right, I'm going to give keto a try. You know, I like meat. I mean, I love me that all I got to do is cut out grains and a lot of vegetables, you know, eat a little bit of vegetables. But toward the end of January, I started watching more and more carnivore videos. And, especially Dr. Chafee, and Dr. Baker. I'm like, you know what? Hell with this, man. I'm just gonna start eating meat. Dropping all the, especially I saw the thing about plants are trying to kill you, which I love that presentation that he did. That was Dr. Chafee. so I went, I just went full on carnivore. And, man, the weight just, I mean, the weight just came off and my blood pressure. It was another thing, my blood pressure. I didn't mention this early, but a few months ago, my blood pressure was kind of high, you know, it was like one 31 40 over 90, you know, when I was at, when I went to the VA office that first time and, man, my blood pressure now. It just started plummeting. Now my blood pressure is usually like 110 over 65, you know, somewhere around there, you know, 100 sometimes even like 100 105 over 65 or 60. It's just incredible. My resting heart rates dropped a lot. But you know, the main reasons I really wanted to go carnivore after a while was like, not only to lose weight, but for me, I watched my mom just die slowly with Alzheimer's. Mine too. And it was a sad thing to

Larry Allhands: 14:38

watch. Mine died in 2017. Yeah, same thing. It was a terrible death. It took

David Sonnier: 14:43

10 years. We started noticing, when we started noticing it, it took about a 10 year, 12 year period before she finally, passed away. Luckily, my dad didn't need to put her in a, nursing home. He kept her at home. He just hired a staff of people to take care of her. and help him because my dad's 96 right now. And my mom died at 94 I think. so, yeah, I mean, she lived a long life, but in the end it was, it was dementia, Alzheimer's. It really just blanked her out and it was sad to watch. And, um, I know that her diet was a big reason for it. And, uh, my mom was like, you know what? I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure that my brain operates at its full capacity and feed it properly. So that was one of the main reasons it was, you know, I want to, I'm also kind of had quite a few friends in the past year that have died of cancer. They retired two people. I know really well retire from the Corps of engineers. And within the first year they were dead of cancer. And it's amazing. It's just sad, uh, to, to. When you think about it, there's no way I wanted to, be a victim of that as well. So I've watched plenty of videos to know that there is something about glucose and cancer cells, you know, let's, so let me not feed cancer cells, the things they like, like excessive amounts of sugar mitochondria.

Larry Allhands: 16:17

Yeah. Um, that's in addition to the fueling of it, is the damaging mitochondria, which actually triggers it. Right. I think that's, that's part of it too.

David Sonnier: 16:24

Yeah. Those two going on. Yeah. They're looking for a way to, to propagate, you know, and they're like, yeah, they, they're looking for damaged mitochondria. They're looking for that. high carbohydrate, you know, that high glucose so that they can, you know, make their fuel. So it makes a lot of sense. And I've seen quite a few, uh, videos for some very esteemed, doctors that have been doing research on this. And there's, I mean, and it's not a new concept, apparently like decades ago, there was plenty of research showing that, Hey man, we can starve cancer in the

Larry Allhands: 16:58

1920s, 1920s. There were the rat studies. And all that knowledge seemed to get, I don't know if you've seen fat, a documentary, but if you haven't go check it out, I did a movie review it on my channel and then I recommend it and there's links to watch it for free. If you're a viewer and haven't seen it yet, go watch that because he's absolutely right. In the 1920s, they actually did full, real hard science research on, on rats that had cancer and feeding them glucose. And they didn't, they didn't even think that glucose was going to be the issue. But it turned out that it was, it just feeds it and kills the rats quickly. And the other rats, I think, live, you know, several hundred times longer than the ones that died. So it's pretty amazing. You're right though. And then all that knowledge got lost during the depression and World War II when everyone's just trying to survive. They didn't care about health. They just cared about living a day, right, to the next day. And then the 50s hit and everyone had an abundance of food and money and everything and no one even worried about health because everyone was fit. So I think that just got

David Sonnier: 17:56

lost. Yeah. That whole, that fascinates me. As a matter of fact, um, I was watching a lot of videos by Dr. Thomas Seyfried. I think he's, he's, done a lot of, research on this. and it's just amazing how, you know, the answer, it seems to be. Right there. And everybody just wants to revert to drugs and chemotherapy and radiation therapy. I mean, these are some dangerous things to put your body through in the first place. You know, when, why don't you, you know, why don't we just couple, we can also couple diet with that if we need to, you know, and that's what Seyfried is kind of a proponent of, but.

Larry Allhands: 18:35

Well, that's because obviously we, you know, Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex, but he didn't warn us of the. the food industrial complex and the pharmacological industrial complex that are very strong and very alive. And they're training all our physicians. Everything that physicians learn is from them. So they're setting them up to be pill pushers in a cartel, unfortunately. And I don't think doctors ever plan to do that. They come in, they want to help people. And a lot of them you see get disillusioned until they find something like this, where they can change people like Tim Noakes and these guys actually change people's health. You know, it's amazing. And uh, Yeah, it's sad. It's really sad.

David Sonnier: 19:15

Yeah. And, um, like I said, I, you know, when you first start watching a lot of these YouTube videos, like my wife was real concerned, it goes like, you know, I don't know if this is good and, but I'm like, look, I'm losing a lot of weight. My blood pressure is, is plummeting. And I, you know, like my guts, I mean, my gut is gone. I mean, I'm starting to show signs of a six pack, which I haven't had that since I was like a junior in high school,

Larry Allhands: 19:38

reverting back to my college days, for sure.

David Sonnier: 19:40

It's incredible, like, this morning I weighed about 174, and, I'm doing things on my bike, I wouldn't have thought I would be able to do, uh, at this age, That's great, man. Yeah, and I'm verifying this, you know, it's not only just regular YouTubers, but, you know, when you start watching people like Dr. Ovadia, uh, cardiologist, um, Dr. Tim notes, Dr. Thomas Seyfried, Dr. Paul Mason, and then Dr. Nadir Ali. these are cardiologists who are, are big proponents of keto based eating, carnivore based eating. And then there's a new doctor that I found. I think I sent you a link. Dr. Pradeep gem. Yeah.

Larry Allhands: 20:20

That was excellent. I watched both his videos. They were excellent. The bigger one, the bittersweet one, and they're both great. Yeah, they're both

David Sonnier: 20:28

great. And he is very, he, he even mentions like he knows eating keto will work. He doesn't exactly endorse it because the reason he doesn't endorse is because it says a very difficult diet to stick to. He does endorse nearly everything else. We are big proponents of, animal based, type diet with a lot of whole foods. a little bit of grain, like very little grain, but he's, but his big thing is, which I really locked onto was the only thing I'm really worried about on the blood test is your triglyceride to HDL ratio. If that thing is under two, you're doing good. Now at worst mine in January when I had taken my blood test while I was at the end of January, I had been on carnivore maybe a week or two, couple of weeks. Things hadn't really settled in my, uh, my triglycerides were probably about one 40. My H D l, uh, was in the upper sixties.'cause my ratio was about two point. It was 2.2, 2.1, 2.2. Not great, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. A couple of months later, I did another test. My ratio is down to 1. 5. That was like in March. I wish I had the results of those because I was pretty shocked. My, you know, my triglycerides were like 90 80 and my HDL was like around 70. I think, my LDL was pretty high. it was my LDL was close to 200. I think, my wife was like 200. That's like, yeah, but my ratio is great. But yeah, I'm gonna actually next month in October, I'm scheduled for a V. A. File another V. A. Blood test. I paid for the other one just out of pocket. I just scheduled myself in a blood test and they got the results online. I had looked at him and it's like, wow, it's pretty good after a couple of months, you know, things are plummeting. So I'm very curious to see what, you know, 10 months of, you know, almost all carnivore type eating with very, I mean, really hardly any cheating. I mean, I might have went to a party and somebody was serving cake for a, you know, and I had a bite, you know, a small, very small piece of cake. Yeah, that's incidental. And um, yeah, a few months ago we had a meeting somewhere and there was a bunch of chocolate chip cookies. I think I ate one. You know, it's nothing that you know, nothing that. It was, it was so minimal that I can say, look, it was just a blip on the radar screen, but I mean, everything I'm eating and I'm eating, um, I'm pretty much pure carnivore except for a few grams of lactose with my coffee, a little bit of half and half when I can't get just whole heavy cream. Um, but yeah, I mean, um, my initial experiences, you know, starting carnivore. Um, actually starting Keto, I was probably Keto for a couple of weeks and I just went carnivore. But it was easy to transition to for me because I'm, I mean, I, I'm pretty much a, meets my favorite food, bacon. I love bacon. I love eggs. So that was great. It was easy to transition to. I didn't have too big of an issue with wanting to get carbs like sugar, you know, like, man, I really want some cookies. I really want a piece of pie. I was just kind of locked in, man. I wanted to, you know, stick with it. I didn't have too big of a digestive issue transitioning to a high fat. Uh, I did have, uh, you know, a little bit of diarrhea maybe for the first week, but it's not that bad. And then now it's even, man, like no gas, no bloating. Oh, it's amazing. And you're not like, I never pass gas. It's just amazing. You know, I go, I, I'm not, I've not had constipation, but then I'm only, I'm only having bowel movements like every. three, four, five days, you know, and it's not a big, nothing, nothing major, you know, but most of your food, because you're eating just meat and fat, it's nearly all being absorbed and there's very little waste, you know, plus there's no fiber. I mean, I haven't eaten a fruit since last January. I mean, literally no fruit. I can't think of a single fruit I've eaten.

Larry Allhands: 24:43

Me neither. And I don't, I don't miss it. I mean, at first I thought I would, but I really don't.

David Sonnier: 24:48

Even, uh, Dr. Pradeep, he talks about fruit. He says, look, the most fruit you should be eating is maybe one piece or two pieces of fruit during the week. That's enough. Yeah, didn't he?

Larry Allhands: 25:01

Didn't he say that, animals ate fruit before hibernation? I think he might've said in his video.

David Sonnier: 25:08

Many people like, you know, a lot of animals like bears during the wintertime, we would just stock up, start eating a lot of fruit, things like that, that fructose would, Add some fat to you so that when you went into hibernation or during the cold months, you had that extra fat. But like he says, for humans, there is no wintertime anymore. Yeah. you can go to the store, you know, like not, you know, like he, he was, he jokes around. He goes for, there's, there's no winter anymore because there really isn't, you know, if during the wintertime it's no different than the summertime, you can go store, buy all the fruit you want, buy all the meat you want. There's plenty of, there's plenty of mastodons at the supermarket, you get all the meat you want anytime you want, you know, so there's, there's no reason to fatten up during the winter time, you know, but he's got some great videos. Matter of fact, there's a whole series on them. that. I think it's the Galen Foundation. He's a, he's a speaker on all their, just about all of their videos. I'm going to try, probably try to watch quite a few of those,

Larry Allhands: 26:02

but I'll put some of the links in the description of this video here. Cause I, I really liked those two. I put the, bittersweet one and the other one you shared with me. Yeah. He'll be on there. So people get exposed. I think he's really good. Uh, they're long, they're long format, but they're. really good.

David Sonnier: 26:16

They're really well done. He's got a good sense of humor too. And he's not dry. He's, you

Larry Allhands: 26:20

know, entertaining. It's edutainment,

David Sonnier: 26:23

right? Yeah. Now, um, physical, physical health wise, uh, I'm, I'm doing excellent. You know, like I said, my, my, all of my clothes are loose on me now. I have to go buy new clothes. Um, I mean, I was wearing like an extra large shirt and wearing mediums pretty much now. My wife works for a clothing, uh, in the clothing industry and she's, uh, she gets all my clothes for pennies on the dollar. But, um, anyway, she's, she's been swapping a lot of my, my shirts and things like that. I had to buy a new suit the other day. Uh, we went somewhere that required a suit. My old suit was floating on me. I didn't have any time to get it. So I just went and had to buy a size, like two sizes small. smaller. but yeah, I feel great. Like I've had, I remember I had some issues with bursitis that I don't have anymore. I'm, my health wise, of course, like aerobically I'm doing really well. I'm in great shape physically for riding. I have zero issues, on the bike, keeping up with anybody. I don't run anymore. One, it's just kind of. I never did like running and the whole time I was in the military, I was like, man, I can't wait to get out so I can stop running because I pounding man. I just do sprints

Larry Allhands: 27:38

because sprints are short and they don't beat me

David Sonnier: 27:39

up. It's funny you mentioned that when I, uh, usually once or twice a week, I incorporate sprints on my bike. I will, um, I do intervals on my bike where I will just go out full blast for about 30 seconds to a minute. Uh, till I just can't go anymore pretty much. And then, and then you cycle down. and, uh, get your heart rate back down. And then you do another one. You do, like, maybe 10 to 15 reps of that. And today, matter of fact, this morning, I did a short ride where it was just all sprint work on this hill. Go up a hill as hard as I could. Got my heart rate just soaring, legs burning. And then I get to the top of the hill, make the round around the back neighborhood to get to the bottom of the hill. Do it all again. I did about, I think I did 10 sprints. And then called it a day and, um, headed back. My legs are just worn out right now. So

Larry Allhands: 28:28

I don't know about you, I don't know about you, but it's the first time since the nineties that I've felt athletic when I do something like I, even when I do a PT test in the 2000s, I didn't feel like I was athletic. I felt like I was just getting through, you know, like slogging. And now when I go out and sprint, I feel like Like I'm back in college again, like I'm on the field running, you know, I mean, it's pretty amazing.

David Sonnier: 28:50

Yeah. I, there was, there was other issues I had, like mentally I was always, prone to these, really bad anxiety issues. especially the second half of my naval career. lot of anxiety issues and, when, stress and anxiety, you go through a lot of stress. Sometimes anxiety follows, but I was finding just hard to deal with stress and it resulted in a lot of anxiety and trouble sleeping and waking up really early. and that's kind of, Yeah. itself. But some of that I wonder if it's partly due to retirement to where I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm in a, I'm fully retired now too. So some of that is, I'm not in a work environment anymore. I'm kind of doing my own thing. but I did notice that, you know, there is a, there was a big reduction in anxiety over the past few months. but for me mostly it's the aches and pains that seem to have gone away. my lower back. Which I always thought was just starting to go out on me. I haven't had any issues with my lower back. Like my, it seems like that's just completely gone away. I want to say that's probably the biggest physical change of the things that ached was lower back. I just, for the longest time, I thought my lower back was just about to go out. You know, I'm like, well, it's just, you know, your lower back from years and years of, wear and tear. Yep. Me too. Like my lower back is, it's never sore. And I was like, it just, that is, an amazing that, I used to have a lot of bursitis in my elbows, here actually both elbows and I haven't had any bouts of that in months. and I'm not taking Advil, I'm not taking any kind of, over the counter, anti inflammatories or anything like that, you know, so, and it could be a couple things, like, you know, you lose a lot of weight. Maybe that. But inflammation wise, I know I'm not eating anything that caused a lot of inflammation. I'm just eating pretty much meat. Eggs, bacon, a little bit of chicken here and there. I like dark meat, so I mean, every now and then I'll cook leg quarters. I eat a little bit of pork, mostly, but mostly ground meat, mostly steaks. I, I do love fish. So, I mean, once in a while I'll eat salmon or I'll eat red fish from the Gulf. Tuna, get a lot of tuna out here. shrimp, crab, crawfish, crawfish is a, it's over here, man. I mean, crawfish is a big time food here. You

Larry Allhands: 31:11

know, I miss, I miss that when I was in Louisiana for sure. I used to live in Louisiana too. I think we talked earlier in Baton Rouge area and, uh, just North and St Francisville. So I, I'm used to your food. I was there for like five years, I think. So I got used to that good

David Sonnier: 31:26

food. You mentioned, um, St. Francisville every Wednesday, uh, a group of us, we drive out to St. Francisville and we bike out there with another group from Baton Rouge. And we bike that St. Francisville area all the way to Jackson, Louisiana, or right up to the Mississippi border. Uh, we do about 50, 55, sometimes 60 miles, depending on the weather. And, um, um, man, it's beautiful up there, man. Oh yeah. The hills. It's great. So that's one of my highlights of the week. Mental health has been my mental health issues are dramatically improved. I'm kind of lucky. I was able to get through the 20 years of service after nine 11 without any, without any kind of harsh deployments. Although I was deployed a lot, I wasn't. on the ground. like a lot of people were. So I was kind of lucky that I didn't have a lot of the issues, although the deployments took its toll on me, especially the last couple of deployments, where we were out in, in West Africa. in some very harsh areas, malaria infested jungles, dealing with people that were, it was kind of some scary situations, but we weren't in combat or anything, but it was just extremely stressful. And by the time my 20 years was up, it was time to go, man, it was time. My kids were in high school, so I was like, I'm not dead yet. There's a lot of my friends that were killed. that a lot of people I knew, combat casualties or just, uh, mental casualties from deployments out there, you know, And I was like, everything's good right now. It's time to go. So I left,

Larry Allhands: 33:09

did you encounter, any high suicide rate where you're out there with your, so I have to, we had,

David Sonnier: 33:15

one of the most shocking was, it was, it was a young chief who retired. I was real, I really liked her. She was a really good chief. She ran our P. T. Program. She was in such great shape, too. She retired and not within a couple of months. She was suicide. Yeah. I don't know what happened. I was just stunned that happened. And we had a young sailor commit suicide at one of the commands I was at. and then, you were just constantly hearing about it. other sailors at the base. it happens to a lot. I noticed it happened. A lot of people that get out and then suicide pops up afterwards. I'm like, yeah, you lose that camaraderie. You're out there by yourself. you're not with that group of friends you were with. and you're feel like you're all alone and next thing, you know, and that's what I think happened to one of the chiefs that had retired.

Larry Allhands: 34:06

Yeah. The triggers they found in the army, cause they did a study on it. And, one of the things that's surprising is deployments. are not a, they don't correlate to, suicide. a lot of actually more servicemen who don't deploy commit suicide than the ones that do. But the things they do find that do correlate is a relationship issues, money issues, legal issues. And then of course, self medication and separation like retirement or leaving the service because you are, you're part of this high speed team. You're You know, you're a valued member, right? And you are, and you go from that to looking for a job or going to whatever, whatever you do afterwards. And it's you are on your own, man. You get a two week course of how to do a resume and how to interview for a job. And good luck, man. Check your VA for your, you know,

David Sonnier: 34:53

that was called tap transition. And yeah, I did transition and class, you know, you get your free plan. Yeah. Anyway, I went through that twice. but, Yeah, they give you really two times. You can do it. But, it's a little mini vacation. somehow my marriage survived it. I got married in 87 the year I joined the Navy. Still married, the Mrs just, uh, you know, told me she's going to run some errands. But, we have been married about 36 years now to, uh, you know, two Navy brats that followed us around. My daughter married a Navy, my daughter married an M. A. Who recently got out and, he's actually got hired by the VA. We, she has a little boy. So we have a grandson and my son, I had sent you a photo of my last day in the Navy without your son with you. Yeah. My son, that little kid that's in there, a real sad looking little kid. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. I always joke around with him. I said, well, why'd you have to look so miserable in that photo? Anyway, he's, he's doing well. he's in the air force, he's a sergeant. he's deployed right now in Okinawa. he's in an arduous deployment, Okinawa, but I always joke around with the Air Force deployments. Air Force. Yeah, they got it made. Said, come right. You know, I don't know. I love the Air Force because I tell a lot of my, I actually pushed him to the Air Force. I said, man, just join the Air Force, you know. Um, but he's doing really well, you know, he's with an F 15 squadron, does a lot of this, support for the aircraft. he loves it. You know, he's doing really well. he's probably going to pick up six pretty soon. Um, recently married. He's seems to be doing well.

Larry Allhands: 36:32

Hey, so on the mental health front, can you reflect back to when you were doing these exercises before you went carnivore and you were not getting results and how your mental health was in, like what you, what was your outlook on life? Like, I don't know about you, but my body stopped responding to exercise too. Like it used to, cause I was an athlete my whole life and I was used to it. Working out and getting certain results. And then it stopped. And I thought, this is just part of getting old. I guess this is the way it is. I guess I'm just going to go a downward slope from here until I get to where my dad is, you know, if I'm lucky. and I just kind of accepted it. But then after this, I can tell you my whole optimism changed my planning. I mean, everything, everything about my mental outlook changed. It was radical. So I want to know, did you experience something like that too? Or is it just

David Sonnier: 37:18

me? You know, I always wanted to like, had I been eating like this when I was in the Navy? Say after, I mean, either the whole time I was in the Navy or at least for the halfway point when, when, um, 9 11 happened. Had I been eating this way, I always wonder like what would my career have looked like? You know, that's what I kind of wonder because I am, I have my confidence level is so much and I don't know, my focus is so much better now. I'm so much more healthier. I keep wondering just You know, what I would have done different had I, you know, what I have, I am thinking like the main reason I got out was I was just, I felt like I was just mentally and physically exhausted from being in, you know, and that was part of it. You know, I was never so, I was never like really that out of shape though. When I was in the Navy, matter of fact, the last command I was at for I retired, they were very PT oriented. So, you know, we were like, they were saying, Hey, we, our day starts at seven, you know, seven to eight o'clock is PT and then, shower and go to work after that. So it was great. They pretty much factored in PT during the work day. Like you didn't have to go before or after work, you know? So, you know, three days a week we could PT and. The other two was optional. If you wanted a PT, go ahead. Our commanding officer was a big proponent and like, I don't care what time you come to work, but a PT first, like you've got it, we were all PT and pretty regularly, which was good. That was a good way to end my 20 years was to be in decent shape when I got out, you know? Yeah. You look good

Larry Allhands: 39:00

in the picture. That was your last day, right?

David Sonnier: 39:03

Yeah. I mean, I, you know, I kind of surprised myself when I saw that pic. I was like, man, I was, I wouldn't. I was not overweight then,

Larry Allhands: 39:10

I mean, that was my deal when I got my 20 year letter, I had actually planned to stay in and go on another deployment. There was another deployment coming up and I was like, I'm just going to stay in and help the division and help the young soldiers get up to speed, you know, but I got burned out like on this, on the workup to that deployment. And I had that letter in my back pocket and I'm like, man, I just can't do it. And so I just, I dropped my letter. I'm like, I'm retiring. Sorry guys. I'm not going to do this. And if my mind was burned out, it was done. You know, for me.

David Sonnier: 39:37

Yep. For me it was the deployment. I was, I was always fine during the deployment, you know, it was before the deployment, anxiety, stress. That's the workup.

Larry Allhands: 39:49

That's what I Cool.

David Sonnier: 39:50

That's why I, the workup private deployment, I, I mean, I was like not sleeping. I was, but during the deployment everything seemed to be fine. Yeah. The worst part was after deployment when things, you know, things are, you, you get back home, things wind down, and then it hits you. You know, the, uh, the anxiety, it was, for me, it was, it was always just this massive anxiety bouts, you know, and, and I'm thinking, why am I feeling like this, that deployment's over? It seemed like I'd have been having these anxious bouts while I was deployed, but no, you were just go, go, go, go, go, you know, working here, you know, 18 hour days and, you know, you're just. Working until you're exhausted. You go to Iraq and sleep a little bit, get up and do it all again. I guess you just don't have time to feel it. You know, when you get home,

Larry Allhands: 40:41

I remember being on the submarine when I was in the Navy, once they cast the lines off and once we closed the hatches and dove, it was like, you're in a different world. Everything went away from the outside and all you're doing was the task at hand for the next, whatever days you were on mission. Right. And it was kind of. relief because everything is off your shoulders. You're just doing your job. You don't have to worry about home stuff or anything. And it was for me, it was when they closed the hatch and we dove and the mission began, that was okay. We're in a group. Same if you deploy, you know, to any remote area, the same thing when you get into a fob or something. You get your battle rhythm. We call it in the army where you just get going and that's your battle rhythm. And then you just focus on that, but the workup, Oh my God. And then the, and then afterwards, like you said, the workup and afterwards, the hardest part. And I think, uh, I mean, that's probably where we get most of our suicides too. Yeah. You know, it was during those periods. So,

David Sonnier: 41:34

yeah, that's what I would notice too. It wasn't so much on deployment. Things happened and. Some people would actually get out, get out. That's when you saw the suicides. It's just amazing. And then they've got to figure out a way to get there and get a grip on this. You know, cause it's, it seems like there's a lot of suicides there in the military throughout the branches. Not only before the VA

Larry Allhands: 41:59

happened, all they took, all they did was record in service suicides, right? So like from world war one on, and you can look at the history, you can look it up. There was a study done in JAMA. I shared with Dr. Chafee. In World War Two, it was five suicides per 100, 000 active duty. And then by Vietnam, it had gotten up to 17 per 100, 000. And now it's between 20 and 29, depending what year, per 100, 000. It's, it's going up. But one of my, my theory that I shared with Dr. Chaffee is that, guess what got introduced in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, right? 80s, especially when it got introduced, was the, was the low fat,, high carb diets and all the processed foods. with gangbusters. I mean, they were there in a smaller effect in the 60s. Like when you and I grew up, like when I had salad dressing, my mom made it with buttermilk, right? And she sees it or whatever. We didn't have seed oil salad dressing. We didn't have seed oil everything because everything got seed oils now and sugar in it. And it wasn't like that when they went low fat in, I think that was late seventies. Was it a warrant commission or something? I forget. Anyway, when they came out the low fat, all the sugar got dumped into the food. And that's when you can see the graph go up. So I don't think it's just a coincidence. I think there is my mom,

David Sonnier: 43:10

my, uh, you know, funny about these seed oils. I remember I was in high school and maybe even into the early eighties. I remember we had all of these, I called it the fake butters. We had margarine, we had like. Uh, okay. Yeah. Like parquet and country proc and all of these. I never kept telling my mom, mom, why are you buying this? I was like, I don't really like this. And she was like, oh, it's a lot healthier than butter. I'm like, okay. but I kind of missed butter. Cause I mean, I grew up eating a lot of butter, but at some point we switched to these, vegetable oil, butter flavored things, and I, I never did like that. Yeah. As much, No, that's what you were just told. my mom was trying to feed us as, keep us healthy, so she was, she'd see on the news, oh, you gotta get away from, butter and all these meats. You gotta, so my mom was trying to, keep us healthy, she was just doing with the government, was insisting that we eat, and, um, But man,

Larry Allhands: 44:08

no, no scientific facts behind it. No facts. No, no. It was all just,

David Sonnier: 44:13

you know, yeah, I've read a lot about, Nina Tycho book, and, just a lot of the interviews, man, we got played a number, this, this guy Ansel keys really did play a number on us, man. And, the government just got on board with it. And once the government's on board with something, they're not turning around. You know, can you, can you imagine if tomorrow. Somehow the federal government said, Hey, we've been wrong all these years. we want you to stop eating all these fruits and vegetables and all of these. So we want you to start eatin beef, pork, chicken, butter, lard, tallow. start this immediate. Can you imagine how that would disrupt the economy? Oh yeah.

Larry Allhands: 45:01

Well, the pharmaceutical companies would start losing money too, because people would stop eating their drugs. So this is,

David Sonnier: 45:06

this is not going to happen. We've been wrong all this time. This is, and it, but like, they can't, they're kind of stuck because if they come around and change that, they're, they're kind of acknowledging that they're kind of like, um, Yeah, we were part of the reason why millions of people have died unnecessarily over the past few years. And you've got all these,

Larry Allhands: 45:24

they're paid by the, food and drug industries not to counter it. So, you know, they're proactively being steered away from doing that in addition to having to admit they're wrong because they could say, well, back in the seventies, the Warren study or war commission, whatever those guys made a mistake and we just propagated, that's kind of a, okay. I get it. Cause we all believe it. And you grew up in the same place I did. So I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt, say okay, you just didn't know, but now you do, so this is good, but, but they won't still do it because they're getting paid not to, and that's the problem. There is

David Sonnier: 45:55

some hope, uh, Nina Teicholz has said that like the AHA, the AHA has removed their limitation on cholesterol, it's

Larry Allhands: 46:03

varied. 2015.

David Sonnier: 46:05

They did that. They're starting to look at keto based diets, you know, and matter of fact, she was just, you know, um, there's more and more cardiologists who are, just on youtube. You're seeing more and more cardiologists, people that wouldn't know starting to say, Hey, look, we're looking at this the wrong way. hopefully it's kind of a grassroots. I don't think you'll ever be able to get it from the top down. It's gonna have to be kind of a grassroots where enough people are Or doing this is enough push to get things to slowly change. Like I say, it may take decades before that paradigm just back to where it used to

Larry Allhands: 46:39

be. Hopefully we're, hopefully we're around to see it. I mean, we'll be super healthy, right? And I tell you, YouTube, you know, for all its faults, is a great platform that has allowed us to do this. Because I would never, you never would be, we wouldn't be talking right now and we wouldn't know about it.

David Sonnier: 46:55

I'm open. I keep, I can, I'm really worried that at some point, you know, the, you know, how powerful the food, the drug industry is, the government, they can start clamping down. Hey, look, this is these, these carnivore people are messing up things, man. Well, they have on this, you know,

Larry Allhands: 47:10

did you see the Dr. Berg video? They have, they've actually, you know, the basically saying the world health organization is a standard. And if you disagree, then you're just not

David Sonnier: 47:18

going to get, we'll see how that, we'll see what happens with that though. Yeah,

Larry Allhands: 47:22

you're just not gonna get promoted. It's just their filter. They're just gonna search engine you they're gonna filter you down to the lower priority But that being said, I mean I do have a rumble account too so if anyone here wants to follow me rumble just in case cuz you never know and I think my My my content here there Um, you know, we've seen what's happened to Russell brand just recently. Uh, it can happen.

David Sonnier: 47:45

Yeah. And I want to take you out. They'll take you out, man. Yes.

Larry Allhands: 47:48

Yes. And

David Sonnier: 47:50

that's, you want me to tell you a little bit about my sleep?

Larry Allhands: 47:53

Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about your sleep quality. Cause I want to hear about

David Sonnier: 47:55

that. Yeah, man. Uh, okay. So I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a few years ago. You know, I, I didn't sleep really good. for, for many years while I was in the Navy, you know, like anxiety issues, you'd wake up, you know, I wouldn't really sleep that well. And then, a few years ago, I guess because of my weight gain too, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. So I started using a CPAP machine. But one thing I've noticed is, I monitor the, the results, you know, my little app, my events, my apnea events per hour, which used to be two to three per hour. four to five per hour. They're like point 1. 2 events per hour. I am sleeping really well and most of it's due to the fact that my body is kind of healed up and I'm getting good sleep. one other thing is I've lost a lot of weight. So I have read that when you lose a lot of weight, even your when you gain a lot of weight, even your tongue swells up. Part of the obstruction process of apnea. Mm hmm. I've lost a lot of weight. So I'm thinking like my tongue is probably shrunk back down to where it needs to be because my apnea events are minimal. Like when I look at my sleeping, I'm sleeping plenty. Um, but the amount of apnea events that are logged, it's like it's showing like last night was 0. 2 events per hour. The night before last was 0. 1 an hour. That's in an eight hours in an eight hour. That's not even one apnea event for the whole night. You know, I'm having 0. 1 events, you know, Um, when I was scanning back at all, all the way past I was, it dropped significantly over the past three or four months, especially after I've lost all that weight. Um, apnea events are minimal. As a matter of fact, we were talking to my wife a couple of hours ago. I said, you know what I'd like to do? I want to, I'd like to sleep without my CPAP. And I, cause she, you know, that was the main reason I got diagnosed was she couldn't sleep anymore snoring so much. So I said, I want to sleep without it. And if I wake, you know, you got to wake me up and, you know, let me know if you, if I'm snoring loud, because I have a feeling I'm not really going to be snoring that much anymore. You know, we're going to try that. I'll let you, I'll, I'll shoot you an

Larry Allhands: 50:15

email. Let me know how that works. I've heard the same from, you know, you hear all these anecdotal stories, but when you get enough of them, then like Jordan Peterson says, That's a theory. Yeah, because data becomes a theory, right? And you have to test it. And we're at a point now where I think carnivore is definitely a strong theory, a strong, a really strong theory. Yeah, I

David Sonnier: 50:36

mean, um, I grew up in a, or I was, in the Navy. I was working in a, in a field weather forecasting oceanography where you kind of, you were forced to do a lot of research on things, and, I joke around like, you know, it feels like you're doing research again, where, I don't know how, if you really call it research, it's more like, I'm reading a lot now. Um, but man, I'll tell you what, when you start really, You know, I'm going to the library. I'm checking out, I'm trying to find books on, um, on cholesterol, on microbiology. I'm trying to, uh, the more I'm reading and the more I'm watching from doctors on YouTube, it's like, man, we, our diet, our, this diet, uh, recommendation, the food pyramid, man, that, that thing is wrong, man, it's upside down. It should be, you know, look this one up. I want to say 10, 15 years ago, okay. I found an article in the New York Times called What If It Was All a Big Fat Lie. you could still find this online. It was a New York Times, uh, article. It might've been the New York Post. I can't remember which article it was. But, um, basically the guy was saying that the food pyramid needs to be flipped in the other direction. You know, the, the, the things that we're eating the most of is what we probably should be eating the less of. And it, and it was an early look at keto, I think. And I, I still have that article. I remember I sent this to a few friends of mine. Um, this was, you know, this was many years ago. Um, what if it was a big fat lie, which, you know, yeah. So, um, I mean, people have been discussing this for many years. It's not all of a sudden this happened, you know, right. But, um,

Larry Allhands: 52:19

I like to do one last thing because we're running out of time here, but I want to give you the floor on this. First off, would you recommend a carnivore diet to other military veterans and first responders, even if you're active duty? And if so, what advice would you give them to get started?

David Sonnier: 52:33

Okay. I would say this. If you're going to at least start this, at least go keto and start doing, start with one thing. Get rid of the seed oils. Don't eat any kinds of you know, Miss Ola, Crisco, all of these vegetable oils. get the sugar out of your diet, the added sugar, you know. So if you're eating whole foods, if you're eating, you know, if you're gonna do anything, at least eat, fresh vegetables, a little bit of vegetables, but go heavy on the beef, the chicken, the pork, like this is the balanced diet. Don't worry about all the fruits and vegetables. Eat a balance of meat, you know, your beef, your lamb, your pork, your chicken, fish. Eat all that stuff, fill up on that and, and the good fats, like, you know, beef towel, um, uh, lard, which is what I live on. Stay full on that stuff and it'll minimize the carbs that you need to take in. But, and for one thing, get off of the seed oils. Try to get off of the grains. And, uh, and then stick with the, uh, stick with the meat and a little bit of vegetables if you have to, but if you really want to get the progress, man, just go carnivore and, uh, start slow, you know, start with keto at least, but definitely knock out those seed oils and get off of the sugar. Um, if you worried about the exercise, I can, I can vouch. I don't carve up prior to any type of long rides. I don't carve during a ride. All I bring along is water. My body is just totally adapted now to run on fat. I think, uh, my friends are kind of amazed. They're, they're sucking down goo, those, uh, energy drinks, energy bars, all of those, uh, high carb. And we stop at a rest and I'm just sipping on some water and electrolytes sometimes, but I don't eat anything. And I, I've did a, I've done 80, 90, a hundred mile rides. with no carbs. Um, you can do it. You just have to let your body adjust to it slowly. You know, after a few weeks, you'll be fine. But yeah, man, I mean, it's a great diet. It's and it's it's easy to stick to once. I mean, you just got to give it a chance. Um, and it's very easy. You know, it's so much easier. You're not chopping up, spending an hour prepping, chopping up vegetables and dicing. And, you know, man, you just throw some meat on the grill. throw some meat in the air fryer, ground some brown meat, man, and like 20 minutes later, you're eating, you know, and you're full. So that's my, my big advice really though is, is to give it a chance and to stick with it, you know, uh, align yourself up with people that are doing it as well. Like in the YouTube community, there's, you know, follow your favorite carnivore, you know, um, And, and, and, um, don't listen to your friends and try to avoid, try, you know, try to avoid, uh, the situations where you're gonna get in a lot of trouble eating, you know, like it's hard, but you can do it like, uh, it's almost impossible to go to parties now, you know, you gotta, you gotta fill up before you go to the party. I, yeah,

Larry Allhands: 55:52

that's my, I have a planning guide. I have a carnivore planning guide. People can download from my website on carnivoreplanning. com I saw that, I need to check that out. And then the planning guide, I do talk about going to the holiday parties because the, my, my, my thing is even when I'm going on a date with somebody, I will eat two or three burger patty before I step out the door with butter. And then I'm like, I'm good. They can put cake in front of me, man. I don't want none of that. I'm

David Sonnier: 56:14

good. You're stuffed. Exactly. I'm, I'm the same way. I will, I'm like, Oh, where are we going? Oh man, let me warm up a pound of meat real quick. It

Larry Allhands: 56:24

works. So planning makes it, you know, worthwhile, but if you do mess up, which everyone does, it's not the end of the world. Don't beat yourself up, get on that horse and ride like you never fell and ride like no one saw you fall off. That's what I like to

David Sonnier: 56:36

say. Yeah, I think, uh, what I like about your channel is you, like I said, you, you have got a good approach to carnivore. Uh, especially I think veterans will be able to relate to you. Um, you've been there, you've done that. Uh, and your, your, your, your proof right there, you know, all the weight you've lost over the past, you know, over the past few months. Um, yeah, and some of the stuff you do behind the scenes, like, you know, your planning guide, uh, the movie reviews, things like that. Those are, those are really good. I think, I think, uh, a lot of vets can relate to that. And like I said, you're, you, you, you know, you, you, you're a. You're walking the walk, you know?

Larry Allhands: 57:19

Well, I appreciate it, man. That's great. Well, David, it's been fantastic talking to you. Um, unfortunately I had to cut it short. We're actually not even sure where to cut it because we're at the hour limit. And, uh, this is also a podcast. So check out the podcast on mission carnivore, Dave, I'm gonna let you go right now, but stick around so we can chat afterwards. Okay. All right. So if you like this content, please like, and subscribe to the channel. Check out the podcast mission carnivore it's on all the major streamers. And all I got to say is stay strong and overcome carnivore soldier.